Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.
Speaker 2: And Daphne's Aniga and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3: We're back for another Repat episode number seventeen.
Speaker 2: Yes, we are a great episode. We're hurdling.
Speaker 1: So much happened in this episode. Times like there were
Speaker 1: like nine storylines in this episode.
Speaker 2: It was really it.
Speaker 3: Was They were really good. I feel like it's getting
Speaker 3: really juicy. We're getting really close to Christmas. It's like
Speaker 3: we're really getting into the meat of it, and we
Speaker 3: finally have Joe and she's here to stay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this one's called Jake Versus Jake, And it
Speaker 2: was really a great episode for a grant I.
Speaker 1: Terrific for it was such a good episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is seventeen and next week will be eighteen,
Speaker 2: which is our Christmas episode, Melrose's first Christmas episode that'll
Speaker 2: air on December twenty third.
Speaker 3: And right around then we're also going to have our producer,
Speaker 3: Chip has is going to be coming, So we've got
Speaker 3: lots of coming on.
Speaker 1: Coming up that'll be fascinating. Get the behind the scenes.
Speaker 3: Loves to talk about Melrose, so we can't wait to
Speaker 3: see him.
Speaker 2: He was great. We loved him and before we start.
Speaker 2: I just want to remind everyone to follow us still
Speaker 2: the place on Instagram and TikTok and Facebook. All right,
Speaker 2: here we go. I'm going to start us off and
Speaker 2: then when I get exhausted, I'm going to hand it
Speaker 2: over to Laura. She's so good at this, but I
Speaker 2: want to give it a go. Okay, Jake Versus Jake
Speaker 2: Season one, episode seventeen. Air date was November twenty fifth,
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two. Everyone thinking of what yesterday, nineteen yesterday?
Speaker 3: Well, I will point out one thousand years I that
Speaker 3: November of nineteen ninety two was an election year.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was, just saying because we start the episode
Speaker 1: with Rick d.
Speaker 2: Yes, Rick D's Kiss FM, and he is saying as
Speaker 2: the camera pulls into the courtyard, Rick D's is in
Speaker 2: the morning says that there was a call in asking
Speaker 2: about the new leader in the White House, and Rick says,
Speaker 2: I think she's going to be.
Speaker 3: Fine because they think the reference to Hillary Clinton She's
Speaker 3: going to be just fine would have been something Rickty's
Speaker 3: could have just as well, saying that time so still there.
Speaker 1: I believe probably doing his show like that's when your
Speaker 1: shows like yeah popular used to be read just in
Speaker 1: Kelly used to be Ready, Kathy Late and the Right,
Speaker 1: one of the shows that you do every ten years.
Speaker 2: Well, I.
Speaker 3: So Rickty's was a huge morning show DJ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that would be my guess. Maybe the fans
Speaker 2: will let us know. We start off on Allison and
Speaker 2: Billy's apartment in the morning, and Billy is making breakfast,
Speaker 2: Allison's getting coffee, Billy is talking about taking a job
Speaker 2: as Santa in a department.
Speaker 1: Store, and Allison is being rude.
Speaker 3: She's very preoccupied with something.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's so exciting.
Speaker 1: She's preoccupied because otherwise she's just a bitch. Hop.
Speaker 2: I think she's preoccupied by He's adorable, wonderful Hawaiian shirt
Speaker 2: already and red and I just he comes in with
Speaker 2: such wonderful energy and you're such a buzz Still.
Speaker 3: Give her a break. She's preoccupied.
Speaker 2: And then he notices that Alison's not paying attention.
Speaker 3: Well, he's trying to get her attention, and he feels
Speaker 3: like he's trying to be upbeat and fun, and when
Speaker 3: that's not working, he says something a little shocking, and
Speaker 3: that doesn't work either, and then he knows something's really think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like now I do that with
Speaker 2: my husband. I'm like, are you like, He'll just nod
Speaker 2: and he'll are you listening?
Speaker 3: And then he's like, but he tries to be prerocative,
Speaker 3: and that didn't even penetrate. So he's like, all right,
Speaker 3: that's it.
Speaker 2: So what she says, No, I'm thinking about work, and
Speaker 2: I think she's thinking about something else, but she says work,
Speaker 2: And Billy asks Allison if she's looking forward to going
Speaker 2: home and seeing the snow, and she just gets up
Speaker 2: and leaves for work. So, yeah, you better be be
Speaker 2: preoccupied or he's going to be your therapist again. And
Speaker 2: didn't those twelve steps, So getting over him work, Allison?
Speaker 2: All right. So next we're in Jane and Michael's apartment
Speaker 2: and Jane and Michael are packing for a trip to
Speaker 2: San Francisco, and she's all excited about it, making it
Speaker 2: a romantic weekend for two. She talked her boss k
Speaker 2: Beacon to being a secret shopper, so she thought she'd
Speaker 2: get away with Michael and up to the city by
Speaker 2: the Bay.
Speaker 1: And having that, as we're reading this, you think, oh, good,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go on vacation with.
Speaker 3: We get to see that. No, we don't and it just.
Speaker 1: Kind of we don't get dandalone.
Speaker 3: No, we get to hear about it. Yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 3: this conversation is sort of like Michael lamenting, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: did they give me the time off for this? Because
Speaker 3: I'm not a good doctor and I don't.
Speaker 1: Actually again maybe into the maybe we're planting seeds for
Speaker 1: the next episode.
Speaker 3: Why are they giving me this time off at all?
Speaker 2: I think it's reversed. I think it's like she's in
Speaker 2: the lead, she's in a good mood, her job got
Speaker 2: them this trip. And he's like, well, well, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I should stick around for work.
Speaker 2: And she's like, you know, I'm taking on a romantic weekend.
Speaker 2: Deal with it. And she goes up suggestively and says
Speaker 2: take off your pants or.
Speaker 1: Some I think they know.
Speaker 2: At this point, he's like, oh, honey, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's going to make that dark turn. So now they're
Speaker 1: making him like super super sweet like person. Then he
Speaker 1: was maybe he's about to take a turn.
Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because he does have another one of
Speaker 3: those moments after last episode where he's completely ignoring her
Speaker 3: like romantic suggestions. You know, She's like, hey, honey, she's
Speaker 3: kissing him. She says, take off your pants. He's like,
Speaker 3: oh no, no, no, no, you know, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Our entire casin people who can't read. I can't read
Speaker 1: the scene, like you're you're pushing You're pushing Grant away
Speaker 1: the entire last episode. I'm rude to Billy and Michael's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I couldn't possibly, beautiful.
Speaker 3: Girl, you better not kiss right now.
Speaker 2: Backing for this, I just love to see Michael like,
Speaker 2: oh no, what are you doing? Anyway, they end up
Speaker 2: making out on the beds.
Speaker 3: It doesn't it's so she wins him over, but yeah,
Speaker 3: he's pushing back.
Speaker 2: So then we're in the courtyard and Billy locks the
Speaker 2: apartment and walks across the courtyard and Jake comes out
Speaker 2: and says, hey, Billy, can I borrow twenty bucks like
Speaker 2: some of the times? Because twenty bucks. She's like, why,
Speaker 2: what do you need? And he's like, oh, my own girl, what.
Speaker 1: You can have twenty bucks? I'm taking a lady out
Speaker 1: to a fantom mounch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my old girlfriend called, and I don't want to
Speaker 2: seem like a dead beat, So can I have twenty bucks?
Speaker 3: But I'm broke?
Speaker 2: I mean it was somewhere in nineteen ninety two, I.
Speaker 1: Guess, so, I know, But why would he be Brokes
Speaker 1: motorcycle shop.
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't. He works there. It's not his shop yet.
Speaker 2: It's not a shop yet, because that's a storyline. Sorry,
Speaker 2: because Joe remembers, because Joe I have had scenes with him.
Speaker 2: He gets the shop. It's a whole big deal.
Speaker 3: But Billy has a cash even though he's Santa for the.
Speaker 2: Season, even though he was borrowing anyway, I'm just who
Speaker 2: has the money? Okay, it doesn't. So then we're at
Speaker 2: the medical center and Allison is at the doctor who
Speaker 2: says to Alison she has an enlargement of her.
Speaker 1: Uterus, which is so weird and vague to say, little
Speaker 1: like a large.
Speaker 3: Further information, tell me more, and.
Speaker 2: She asks, is there any possibility that Allison could be pregnant?
Speaker 2: You know, we'll run some tests, and I think I
Speaker 2: think the whole audience goes like, oh my god, not
Speaker 2: with Keith. Right.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's what Alison's thinking too. Well, I
Speaker 3: did just get out of this horrible relationship.
Speaker 1: Well then she said, but we do use protection and
Speaker 1: I got my period, So I think the odds are
Speaker 1: going right, but it did.
Speaker 3: Look like Allison was maybe like, could it be you know?
Speaker 3: And the doctor says, well.
Speaker 1: Maybe she just has an attractively large uterus.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's what it is. Tell me more
Speaker 3: about my.
Speaker 2: Popular It is nerve wracking, I would think to hear that.
Speaker 3: And they do.
Speaker 1: Conclude that she needs more tests to know what's going.
Speaker 2: So again they don't know enough. So here we are
Speaker 2: at the Farmer's Market parking lot day. Matt and Ronda
Speaker 2: are loading fruit into a van for the halfway house
Speaker 2: that he got his job back at, and they're missing
Speaker 2: a flat of strawberries. So Ronda goes into the Farmer's
Speaker 2: Market to grab the fruit. She's got the strawberries, and
Speaker 2: some guy comes up and takes the box from Ronda's hands.
Speaker 1: She gets so mad, so fast.
Speaker 3: They get into a tussle over this slat of strawberries.
Speaker 3: Their minds, their minds of strawberries. Yeah yeah, but he's like, no,
Speaker 3: these are special order and I paid for these, these
Speaker 3: are mine. He pulls it back, and she pulls it
Speaker 3: back on their mind and they're for they're donated for
Speaker 3: street kids, and no mind.
Speaker 2: She calls them a bully. I just love how protective
Speaker 2: she is of the kids in the home, you know,
Speaker 2: and like, who are you know?
Speaker 1: These markets can be dicey, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can get into a.
Speaker 2: Man that comes up he's is still a mace. And
Speaker 2: then Matt comes in and tells Ronda, oh, no, I
Speaker 2: found the strawberries. Ours were good, never mind, and she's
Speaker 2: like she gives them back the flat of strawberries to
Speaker 2: this stranger, but she's still angry.
Speaker 1: Very handsome stranger to that's every answer.
Speaker 3: It's then when he sort of takes a look at
Speaker 3: her and she she goes to leave and he follows
Speaker 3: her out and he's like, hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he it's Terrence. By the way, this is
Speaker 2: introducing a character that is going to she's gonna yeah,
Speaker 2: he have a nice storyline with her. Yeah, so this
Speaker 2: is the beginning of it, this kind of banter. So
Speaker 2: he follows her and you know, there's a shot of
Speaker 2: like him behind her, and she's like, leave me alone.
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in you. You're a pain in my ass.
Speaker 2: And he's like, well, I could be interesting too, and
Speaker 2: I'm kind of shy. Actually, I'm realizing right now we
Speaker 2: find out Okay, I know why he needed the strawberries. Oh,
Speaker 2: Penny just dropped. Daphne watched this episode three times.
Speaker 3: But he apologizes, just figured out something right. I didn't
Speaker 3: touch the fruit connection either when it came, when it comes,
Speaker 3: But you're right, you know. What he does do is
Speaker 3: like he notices, Hey, you're actually cute, and I wish
Speaker 3: I hadn't, you know, come on so strong, and would
Speaker 3: you be interested in going out? Sometimes in that scene,
Speaker 3: I apologize for his behavior and ask.
Speaker 2: Any kind of winds are over because she's like, okay,
Speaker 2: but we're going to leave that little to the doctor's
Speaker 2: office day and the doctor comes in and tells Alison
Speaker 2: that she's not pregnant. But the doctor would like to
Speaker 2: take some blood and do a sonogram figure out what's
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 1: And so here's my question. We haven't been a sonogram yet.
Speaker 1: How visible is Allison's in large uterus.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of questions here in this scene that
Speaker 3: are very technical, and I don't think it serves us
Speaker 3: to really open that door.
Speaker 1: Your skirt's a little tighter, Notice you have a large
Speaker 1: I don't think we should be asking all.
Speaker 3: The questions right now. Keep going carry on, Carrie, except
Speaker 3: accept the dialogue. Except circumstances.
Speaker 1: This was written by a man. This is what first,
Speaker 1: we say, margeaters, then we do a sonogram, and then
Speaker 1: we're going to do a public.
Speaker 3: Because we're just telling the story, folks.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know what comes first. But Alison is, you know,
Speaker 2: alarmed rightfully so and says, uh, do you know what's wrong?
Speaker 2: And she's like, look, I don't know. We just need
Speaker 2: to do some more tests. Could be any number of things.
Speaker 2: And by the way, do you have insurance? And she's like, no,
Speaker 2: by the way, I don't.
Speaker 1: But she says specifically, I don't have hospitalization insurance. So
Speaker 1: do I have?
Speaker 3: She's talking about being a hospitalizer and like and the
Speaker 3: operational insurance, like what.
Speaker 1: The procedures sure is different than hospitalization. But anyway, we've
Speaker 1: been talking about it. Yeah, we've been talking about insurance
Speaker 1: and we're all up in arms about it. But any
Speaker 1: insurance would include hospitalization. You might have a high deductible,
Speaker 1: but you're not going to have insurance.
Speaker 2: For well, I don't know some I mean, some policies
Speaker 2: might not if you don't want to pay that much
Speaker 2: or don't have that much because hospitals are so expensive.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I think we're to we get in the weeds
Speaker 3: if we actually ask these questions, because there's a lot
Speaker 3: of it that doesn't quite make sense. But I think
Speaker 3: the point is to say that, like the doctor is insinuating,
Speaker 3: this could be really serious, and yeah, Alison has zero insurance.
Speaker 1: It doesn't for any of it. And I think you're
Speaker 1: right about not pulling you through because as the shows
Speaker 1: get crazier and crazier, do not.
Speaker 2: Do not The reality police know too early.
Speaker 3: Don't ask wearing that, you don't ask, do not ask
Speaker 3: why is she wearing a pillbox hat?
Speaker 2: You don't ask? No, just go yeah, going with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will try to have an explanation, but I may.
Speaker 2: We start now we're gonna be in trouble.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so anyway, so anyway, now we're in the restaurant.
Speaker 2: Yes, we're in the restaurant, and uh, Jake and his
Speaker 2: ex girlfriend Colleen, they're having lunch at this nice restaurant
Speaker 2: and reminiscing about the past. And Jake says, yeah, that
Speaker 2: was all of five years ago, which today seems like
Speaker 2: last week, you know, for me at my aide. For
Speaker 2: someone to say, well that was five years ago, I'm
Speaker 2: like five years ago went so fast but the point
Speaker 2: is that this was a long time ago. That relationship's
Speaker 2: over and gone.
Speaker 1: But and did she you guys, this was Beth Toussaint.
Speaker 1: She was on Dallas. Do you remember her from Dallas?
Speaker 1: She looks she was on Dallas and Young and the Restless.
Speaker 3: After after Moros was young in the wrestles.
Speaker 1: Yea, I must have known her from Dallas. She was
Speaker 1: so familiar to me.
Speaker 2: Well she was great in this Yep, she was great.
Speaker 2: So she says, by the way, I have a four
Speaker 2: and a half year old son named David, and you, Jake,
Speaker 2: are the biological father. And you know this guy Robert
Speaker 2: to legally be David's dad since he's the only father
Speaker 2: that the son has known. And Grant is just like gobsmacked,
Speaker 2: slow the f downady, what I am and just launches
Speaker 2: us into his story for this episode. So he ends
Speaker 2: this by saying, no, I'm not signing it off. I'm
Speaker 2: the father and I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: And she does make She does explain that she put
Speaker 1: his name on the birth cert to fake. Because I
Speaker 1: was thinking, why I tell him at all? She said this.
Speaker 1: They did explain, Laura, they.
Speaker 3: Did we have this information.
Speaker 2: I thought this was so horrible of her. I can't
Speaker 2: even imagine, Like, I mean, I don't know, but to
Speaker 2: wait five years and then to go to the guy
Speaker 2: and you're going to actually bring it up to him
Speaker 2: and then say, oh, but you can have nothing to
Speaker 2: do with him. Oh, like he doesn't even have a choice.
Speaker 3: Well, it's also a little bit of a thread to pull,
Speaker 3: to say, because we're going to learn that he's the
Speaker 3: one who was leaving for California at the time when
Speaker 3: she was finding out that she was pregnant, and she
Speaker 3: chose not to tell him. She tells him that here,
Speaker 3: so like, yeah, he was leaving for California. She also says,
Speaker 3: you know, I loved you, but you were leaving and
Speaker 3: so I couldn't tell you. And now five years have passed,
Speaker 3: I'm married to a wonderful man who is very successful.
Speaker 2: She mentions for my for me, though she didn't make
Speaker 2: it clear that they weren't serious enough or they didn't
Speaker 2: give it a go, right, and so that's too little
Speaker 2: information for me to go, Okay, well, this is a
Speaker 2: this is a you know, we have this kid, but
Speaker 2: it doesn't justify enough how we broke up or you
Speaker 2: left and you didn't want us to end or anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I still thought it was very it's a little vague
Speaker 2: shocking that she would come to him and say all this,
Speaker 2: and so he's shocked.
Speaker 3: He is justifiably also shocked.
Speaker 2: So now we're at Shooters at night and Joe and
Speaker 2: Jake are both at Shooters having a drink, and Jake
Speaker 2: is like, I'd like to be left alone. He leaves.
Speaker 2: She's like, no, wait a second. You know, just because
Speaker 2: they can't be trusted doesn't mean I'm not a good listener.
Speaker 2: So she follows him over to the bar and she,
Speaker 2: you know, she's like, tell me, tell me, and he
Speaker 2: tells her that his ex girlfriend from Washington showed up
Speaker 2: and told him that he has a kid bomb and
Speaker 2: she's wide eyed and we're all like what, And so
Speaker 2: Joe's white eyed and asks Jake, wait a second, do
Speaker 2: you know for sure that it's your kid?
Speaker 3: Right? First things first need to know if that's yeah,
Speaker 3: really right?
Speaker 2: A normal question, And then Jake says, yeah, yeah, Colleen
Speaker 2: wouldn't lie about this. And then Jake says that Colleen
Speaker 2: wants Jake out of the picture, which is devastating, Like
Speaker 2: came all the way here to say, oh, you have
Speaker 2: this kid you didn't know about, and I don't want
Speaker 2: you to be the dad. It's a lot. It's I
Speaker 2: was really shocked and felt for him, and I didn't
Speaker 2: think it was right of her. But anyway, but then
Speaker 2: Jake says to Joe, you know, it makes a difference
Speaker 2: to him now that he knows he has a son
Speaker 2: and he wants to bring the son home with him.
Speaker 2: And Joe's like, wait a second, Jake, you might be
Speaker 2: wrong about this and that they have a family. She's
Speaker 2: you know, with someone else, and you might blow up
Speaker 2: a family. And of course, the minute that comes out
Speaker 2: of my mouth, by the way, I was like, no, no,
Speaker 2: don't say this.
Speaker 1: Thing.
Speaker 3: Well, because he really objects to that. He's the word
Speaker 3: family right, that doesn't have.
Speaker 2: In the family.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he says like, you just don't understand. You
Speaker 2: don't understand what guys feel. Joe says, yeah, well, I
Speaker 2: just don't understand guys who feel because they love someone
Speaker 2: feels like they own them. So that tells a little
Speaker 2: bit about her past and her you know what, she's
Speaker 2: exhibited a theme, yeah, that bit of olympus.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: So then he's like, I'm done talking to you.
Speaker 3: I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Basically, you suck, you can't be trusted, and you suck
Speaker 2: as a listener. Okay, and then anyone, he wants me
Speaker 2: alone and and so, but she gets up to leave.
Speaker 2: So they're still trying to figure their stuff out. So
Speaker 2: we are in Alison and Billy's apartment and Allison is
Speaker 2: on the phone with her doctor and Billy comes in
Speaker 2: and here's part of it and is like, hey, what's
Speaker 2: that all about. She's says, no, nothing, I got I
Speaker 2: got to take care of it myself. And he's like, no,
Speaker 2: let me be a friend and I can help you out.
Speaker 2: And she opens a refrigerator. She's still rebuffing him and says, oh,
Speaker 2: you drink the last soda. You want to help get
Speaker 2: some more?
Speaker 1: And she goes to arm.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, she's so passionate about her soda.
Speaker 3: She didn't strike me as a soda drinker until now.
Speaker 2: I think it's a sign of like a big uterus
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 3: I think you need soda.
Speaker 2: So she slams the door and he's left going what
Speaker 2: that hell? And okay. So next we are in the restaurant,
Speaker 2: so Ronda and the lovely guy from the Farmer's Market.
Speaker 2: Terrence are out on a date at a very fancy
Speaker 2: restaurant and they are at the front Majer D's stand
Speaker 2: and she's.
Speaker 1: Complaining, she's carrying right over from the Farmer's Market. She's
Speaker 1: fired up again.
Speaker 3: Yes, she's got your complaints.
Speaker 2: She's complaining that the Mayor d is like where they're
Speaker 2: taking them to the table, and how.
Speaker 1: They're treating looking at them, they're getting ignored.
Speaker 2: Treating them poorly. And he's like, you know, aren't they
Speaker 2: all like that? And anyway, uh.
Speaker 1: And they do take them to a table right by
Speaker 1: the swinging doors to the kitchen, so every time you're
Speaker 1: on her shot, the doors are swinging.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's not wrong's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And and so they sit down way back there and
Speaker 2: he goes, well, that's fine. The food's the same all
Speaker 2: over the restaurant.
Speaker 1: And try actually says to her, are you implying that
Speaker 1: this is racial? Or yeah? Because we're not dressed really well,
Speaker 1: what is it you think?
Speaker 2: What's happening?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And so or do you think yeah? And she's
Speaker 2: like probably both. Uh So then Ronda suggests that they go,
Speaker 2: let's just go to Pinks and get some dogs and
Speaker 2: go to the beach and yeah, famous la stand isn't
Speaker 2: that on? Uh?
Speaker 3: Lebria, Lebria.
Speaker 2: And then the major d comes over and whispers into
Speaker 2: Terrence's ear and Ronda says, now what so exasperated and
Speaker 2: Tara says, well, the chef wants to talk to the
Speaker 2: owner of the restaurant about the dinner.
Speaker 3: And I'm the owner, by the.
Speaker 1: Way, So she's like why he was testing her though? Seriously,
Speaker 1: Like is it a test to put her at the
Speaker 1: bat because obviously he's the owner, he should have the
Speaker 1: best table in the house. Do you think he was
Speaker 1: testing her?
Speaker 2: I was thinking maybe he wanted privacy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody wants to sit by the swinging door.
Speaker 3: I even noticed the swing door, Like I don't care
Speaker 3: about this stuff, you know, like, look at me, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm actually the owner. We're going to find out later.
Speaker 3: He drives a fancy card, but that he's trying to
Speaker 3: be like, I have all this stuff, but I don't
Speaker 3: care about this stuff. Why do you care? What is
Speaker 3: it that you think is happening here?
Speaker 2: Like that's what he challenged, trying to win her over,
Speaker 2: and he's got a big hurdle because she doesn't like him.
Speaker 2: Already from the morning.
Speaker 3: She's a little Yeah, she's just a little annoyed. But
Speaker 3: he's like, hey, this is all and by the way,
Speaker 3: I own this place.
Speaker 1: She's a lovely surprise.
Speaker 2: So next we're yeah, next we're at the hotel lobby
Speaker 2: and I noticed where they This is where Jake. Jake
Speaker 2: is here in the lobby and he's there in his
Speaker 2: leather jacket holding a teddy bear.
Speaker 1: Do you think was it shut flows?
Speaker 2: Oh? The low lows down. It was so pretty, so pretty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks out of place because he's in his
Speaker 3: leather jacket.
Speaker 2: With holding a teddy bear holding So he walks through
Speaker 2: the lobby into the back and there's a pool at
Speaker 2: the back facing the ocean, and he watches. He watches
Speaker 2: Colleen and Robert and David the kid playing in the.
Speaker 1: Pool in a tiny speedo, which.
Speaker 3: It was his nineteen ninety two speedo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway, he Colleen sees Jake spying on them
Speaker 2: and comes over and is like, what are you doing here?
Speaker 2: Don't mess up my plan and don't be seen here.
Speaker 2: If you want to talk to me, you call me.
Speaker 2: Don't be macho, and don't ruin this.
Speaker 1: Which is a good point. By the way, the kid
Speaker 1: is Miko Hughes, who was in pet Cemetery and also
Speaker 1: Full House.
Speaker 2: And then a bunch of I looked him up and
Speaker 2: I saw people saying, I think it was on a
Speaker 2: podcast how a child actor became a horror star. So
Speaker 2: he did a bunch of horror films. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 2: his experience set him on his way, and he was
Speaker 2: probably like six.
Speaker 1: Here was adorable, right, Yeah, my little young to can act.
Speaker 2: They just pound, Yeah, he was really really good. He
Speaker 2: was adorable. So the little kid, David looks back at
Speaker 2: Jake as they walk away.
Speaker 3: He walks away holding his dad's hand and yeah, and
Speaker 3: Jake just watches. He's holding out ty baron painful, pretty.
Speaker 2: Heart break, pretty heard. And then we all have come
Speaker 2: to know and love Jake. I mean, yeah, grant Jake.
Speaker 2: And so it is I think as hard as an
Speaker 2: audience member to just see because he's such a good guy,
Speaker 2: is my point, right, We're always pointing that out. So
Speaker 2: now Ronda is walking down the street in workout gear
Speaker 2: when Terrence pulls up and a Mercedes convertible.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: He's a very wealthy guy, clearly, and he says, hey,
Speaker 2: Matt told me that you would see you around here.
Speaker 2: I'd see you here, and Terence says, come to Catalina
Speaker 2: with me, and she's like, well, I'd love to, but
Speaker 2: I have errands to run and a Saturday class to teach,
Speaker 2: and he Terence asks to chauffeur Randa to her class.
Speaker 2: Ronda notices that it's not the same car Terence drove
Speaker 2: on date night, and she's like, what you have like
Speaker 2: all these cars and he's like, yeah, that was for
Speaker 2: the schlepping around.
Speaker 3: His Toyota is just for schlepping vegetables. And apparently for
Speaker 3: first dates.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was a test. Yeah, the bad table and
Speaker 1: everything to sort of read her, and he told everything
Speaker 1: to make a big deal. So probably the maitreat. He
Speaker 1: wasn't looking at him because he said, don't make a
Speaker 1: big deal because he wanted to.
Speaker 2: Yes for him, very good, very good putting all the
Speaker 2: pots together. But now now I want to get over stuff.
Speaker 3: So now he's got his fancy Mercedes convertible and he says,
Speaker 3: this one is for town.
Speaker 2: And I want to take you to Catalina. Ronda asked
Speaker 2: Harence if he wants to go tomorrow night. While he's
Speaker 2: getting in the car and he says, yes, you bet.
Speaker 2: Alison and Billy's apartment. Billy walks into the room in
Speaker 2: full Santa costume where Alison is getting coffee.
Speaker 1: Because he needs to be more adorable. Yeah, let's just
Speaker 1: up the volume.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're not gonna let me. Actually, you're going to
Speaker 2: say everything's fine. I'm going to act like everything's fine.
Speaker 2: I'm going to ignore the passive aggression. So she goes, oh, good,
Speaker 2: you got the job. Totally less than thrilled. Alison goes
Speaker 2: into the living room and all of a sudden starts
Speaker 2: crying on the couch and Billy.
Speaker 3: Like from zero to a thousand, he's goofing around in
Speaker 3: his in his best Santa voice, and he sits down
Speaker 3: next to her. She's turned away, and he says, what
Speaker 3: do you want for Christmas? And she just and that's
Speaker 3: that was the final She loses.
Speaker 2: It starts to cry. So He's notices that she's upset
Speaker 2: and takes off the Santa beard and says, hey, what
Speaker 2: is going on? And she tells them they found a
Speaker 2: benign tumor in my uterus and that is rapidly growing,
Speaker 2: and he is absolutely shocked. But that she says she
Speaker 2: needs an operation to have it removed. It's not cancer,
Speaker 2: but it could mess up having children.
Speaker 1: My mom called this my Stella Dallas speech because Stella
Speaker 1: Dallas is like a soap person in the fifty there's
Speaker 1: always something and it was like of a benign tumor.
Speaker 1: It's rapidly growing. It's an operations up my kids of
Speaker 1: having children. Oh be sure, there's another thing. I get there.
Speaker 3: It was just like single, I have to tell you
Speaker 3: all the things that's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Ye peel him out of it.
Speaker 2: Did your mom watch us with you?
Speaker 1: Not with me? But she talked to me after she did.
Speaker 2: She watched it was is one more thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, also, and then the worst part.
Speaker 3: Is and the thing is you have to do as
Speaker 3: the actor. You have to do that a million times.
Speaker 3: You have to keep saying these lines and after a
Speaker 3: while you're like, okay, yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 2: You must have been like, you know, like, oh, I
Speaker 2: gotta do this again from the side and.
Speaker 1: I remember listening to tory Amos like I found a
Speaker 1: really sad song. I remember again prepping for this, and
Speaker 1: then I think by the time we did it, I
Speaker 1: just couldn't stop crying, Like I have a prepared I
Speaker 1: want you going built. But I didn't build it. I
Speaker 1: just just whatever I was like, Yeah, whatever I was
Speaker 1: working on just completely took over because as a yeah,
Speaker 1: Alison is crying and crying, faying, well this like maybe
Speaker 1: wait and start crying on I can't have children, but
Speaker 1: I start crying, I haven't benign tumor.
Speaker 3: I well, it's a long scene and there's a lot
Speaker 3: she has to get out, and you sustained.
Speaker 2: It for the whole scene and it was great.
Speaker 1: I was very sweet, but it didn't start but you
Speaker 1: had a like you can tell like I was off
Speaker 1: camera listening and I'm like go, I'm read go.
Speaker 2: Just like.
Speaker 3: You had a lot of information to tell Billy too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and upset about all of it was my parents
Speaker 2: can't afford.
Speaker 3: You Santa suit.
Speaker 2: And then he goes, you'll it'll be okay, and he
Speaker 2: leans over in that Santa suit gives you a big hug.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he says, and that that's what that's when she
Speaker 3: also reveals that she doesn't have health insurance and that's
Speaker 3: the real thing.
Speaker 1: She's And is this when he said because this line
Speaker 1: killed me, but maybe it was when he goes, I'm
Speaker 1: going to do everything I can to help you everything,
Speaker 1: so get used to it was that this Because he
Speaker 1: said that, I was like, ever, isn't that sweet? No,
Speaker 1: I think that that's coming up.
Speaker 3: He also says we'll find a way, We'll find a
Speaker 3: way to make this work, and then she's like she
Speaker 3: smiles through. It's like, you know, somehow sitting there looking
Speaker 3: at you as Santa. I believe if Santa says it,
Speaker 3: I actually believe it's very sweet. And that's when he
Speaker 3: hugs her in his big risks again. You know, we've
Speaker 3: always noticed that she cries.
Speaker 2: We've always noticed the drama versus the humor. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, the stuff that these writers. This isn't just
Speaker 2: a straight drama. This is a very out there show.
Speaker 2: And I just love how the writers like have it
Speaker 2: you pouring all this out and he's in a big
Speaker 2: Santa alfad, I'm going to take care of you, And
Speaker 2: there's always that lightness in that humor.
Speaker 3: We're in the courtyard where Joe is knocking on Jake's
Speaker 3: door with a bag of groceries she's carrying him. When
Speaker 3: Jake answers the door, Joe says she came to apologize
Speaker 3: for last night at Shooters. She asks if Jake will
Speaker 3: accept the peace offerings she has brought, including the baggette
Speaker 3: that's sticking out of the bag, and she says they
Speaker 3: don't have to talk about anything, and so he agrees
Speaker 3: to let her in, and then inside the apartment, she's
Speaker 3: pouring wine while Jake tells her that he's thinking about
Speaker 3: seeing a lawyer and getting some form of custody for
Speaker 3: his son, saying he's angry that Colleen lied to him.
Speaker 3: Joe notices the teddy Bear. Jake then tells Joe about
Speaker 3: trying to go to meet David and that things didn't
Speaker 3: go well. Jake says he thinks he could be a
Speaker 3: really good dad. It's another scene of him just going
Speaker 3: I think I could do this, but he doesn't want
Speaker 3: to be like his own recent visit from his own mom.
Speaker 3: He doesn't want David to think that he's pathetic, and
Speaker 3: Joe says that's a completely different situation. Jake says he
Speaker 3: doesn't feel good enough at anything adult and he really
Speaker 3: wants to take care of his kid, and she asks him, well,
Speaker 3: have you thought about what it would be like to
Speaker 3: have a kid in your life and what life would
Speaker 3: be like for the kid, including the expense she points out,
Speaker 3: and this just kisses Jake off. He gets angry, walks
Speaker 3: out of the room, saying, thanks for the wine, Joe,
Speaker 3: And you just don't understand me anything. You don't understand
Speaker 3: this or me.
Speaker 1: He's not super good at difficult conversation.
Speaker 3: He didn't want to be told that there was another
Speaker 3: point of view on this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I feel like Jake has again this is
Speaker 2: getting to the story of his self worth. I also
Speaker 2: forgot to mention that this was directed by Victoria Hawkberg,
Speaker 2: and Victoria was really good, Yeah at bringing out the
Speaker 2: emotional story, bringing that to the forefront. So she uses
Speaker 2: the camera, she directs the actors in a way that
Speaker 2: isn't sort of like cookie cutter or expected. So the
Speaker 2: blocking this scene ends with this wonderful I'm in the foreground,
Speaker 2: you know. He comes to Joe and says, you don't
Speaker 2: understand and you don't understand me, and turns and walks
Speaker 2: back to the kitchen. And then the last shot of
Speaker 2: this is me turning towards camera going oh, and then
Speaker 2: he's in the background turn the other way.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so there tells a story and that is the difference,
Speaker 2: and that's what I really liked about Victoria. I really
Speaker 2: loved working with her because she really worked with you
Speaker 2: and your emotion.
Speaker 1: I remember that long. I do remember her. The hours
Speaker 1: were long, but she really cared. Yes.
Speaker 2: And then this is a very emotional, you know, high stakes,
Speaker 2: and I think it really came across. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 2: that's the director as well. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So then we're back at the hospital with Alison and Billy.
Speaker 3: He's gone with her and they're in the intake office
Speaker 3: where a hospital administrator is telling them that Allison cannot
Speaker 3: be admitted without insurance.
Speaker 1: And did you notice the body language I have Billy
Speaker 1: and Allison, like if you were in couple's therapey, like
Speaker 1: that's a happy couple. We were leaned in. I don't
Speaker 1: know if she directed us because of the shot, like
Speaker 1: we were leaned intoward each other, like subtle body language
Speaker 1: you're basically touching each other.
Speaker 2: Was like to me, it looked like two kids trying
Speaker 2: to play grown up, Like they're in a you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like this is big life stuff and
Speaker 2: health stuff and they're in a hospital, and it seemed
Speaker 2: like two not kids, but two a young couple, you know,
Speaker 2: trying to figure this out in this big ominous place, and.
Speaker 1: His leministrator was great.
Speaker 3: He was super sweeby, but like also very condescending to
Speaker 3: these idiot children who didn't.
Speaker 2: Know that they very high insurance. Yeah, yeah, isn't this
Speaker 2: where Billy says, I want you know, my dad still
Speaker 2: pays his bills in person, and we got to make
Speaker 2: them know that you're a person. Well, that one overwhelmed.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was like his objective was nice, like it
Speaker 1: he has good advice.
Speaker 2: Don't work with this guy though.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm sure if we appeal to them in person,
Speaker 3: they'll just let us to schedule you for surgery pinched glasses.
Speaker 1: It's fifteen thousand dollars prepaid, which you know, I can
Speaker 1: do my in today's dollars.
Speaker 3: That kind of money she'd be she would have gone
Speaker 3: insurance exactly. So fifteen thousand dollars in today's dollars is
Speaker 3: very much money. And they realized they're going to go
Speaker 3: try other hospitals. And he says, well, good luck with that.
Speaker 1: It's thirty four thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: All right, no way, and she's going to come up
Speaker 3: with that for the surgery. So they try all these
Speaker 3: other hospitals there now were cut to the parking lot
Speaker 3: where they're coming out in the rain out of one
Speaker 3: more hospital. They're clearly exhausted. They've been to all of them,
Speaker 3: and Allison says, maybe she just won't have the surgery
Speaker 3: at all. Maybe the fibroids would just go away.
Speaker 1: And it's like real rain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was real rain. Nobody got in the rain.
Speaker 2: They got a hut shoe. We have to get our day, ye, And.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when they'd have to cover the cameras,
Speaker 1: like you had to put plastic over all the times
Speaker 1: when it rained. Yeah, it's a very big deal.
Speaker 3: But here is where Billy says, well, listen, if you
Speaker 3: can't come up with the money by tomorrow and figure
Speaker 3: this out, I'm going to ask my parents for the money.
Speaker 3: And Allison says, you're a great friend, but this is
Speaker 3: my problem. And this is where Billy says to Alison
Speaker 3: that you're my best end. That's super sweet. So she
Speaker 3: kisses him on the cheek and she says, I still
Speaker 3: will not borrow the money from your parents. So then
Speaker 3: we're into the courtyard at night where Matt is with
Speaker 3: Jane and Michael opening a box of Christmas decorations and
Speaker 3: he drapes a tinsel garland around his neck as Jane
Speaker 3: says it's her first Christmas with palm trees, and she
Speaker 3: and Michael tell Matt about the decorations that were beautiful
Speaker 3: on Gary Street in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: You guys should have seen it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeahs I wish we could have brought cameras and.
Speaker 2: Gary Street and Union Square was so beautiful and so funny.
Speaker 2: Chris Smith, remember Union Square and the tree and the caroling. Gorgeous.
Speaker 3: And then Alison Billy walk into the courtyard and Billy
Speaker 3: makes a snide comment to Michael about like, ah, yeah,
Speaker 3: right when you were up there hobnobbing with your medical
Speaker 3: thieves and you guys are all greedy. Yeah, he says,
Speaker 3: he's SICA doctors their rules and regulations. Michael's like, well,
Speaker 3: Michael's like, whoa what Trana to take that personally, And
Speaker 3: Jane says Jane sort of defends them and says, you know,
Speaker 3: the people at the conference were very concerned about improving healthcare.
Speaker 3: But Billy just scoffs and goes into his apartment. So
Speaker 3: then Ronda and Terrence all of a sudden enter the scene,
Speaker 3: coming walking down the stairs from her apartment. They're very
Speaker 3: dressed up.
Speaker 1: They look so gorgeous. She has on this silver dress
Speaker 1: and I took a picture of it to send and.
Speaker 3: He's in a like full black tie event.
Speaker 1: Gorgeous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she looks lovely. And Ronda introduces Terrence to all
Speaker 3: of the friends and they head out, and Michael follows.
Speaker 3: Allison says, what's going on with Billy. Allison says he's
Speaker 3: just trying to help her, and he says, well, listen,
Speaker 3: if what you're needing help with is medical problem, maybe
Speaker 3: I can help.
Speaker 1: And this is another good shot you're talking about Victoria
Speaker 1: where it's me in the foreground and Billy just be
Speaker 1: furious in the back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love at when you.
Speaker 2: Both get to be actually yes, and you're moving yeah,
Speaker 2: natural movement.
Speaker 3: So yeah, So Michael is in Allison and Billy's apartment
Speaker 3: listening about Allison's situations.
Speaker 1: Again, this lovely version of Michael.
Speaker 2: He could not be like, maybe I can like take
Speaker 2: it now, we'll last.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like he said, must be about to turn.
Speaker 1: They're making him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, let me help.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but right now he's mister nice guy. So he
Speaker 3: offers to help. Maybe he can get her in for surgery,
Speaker 3: and when he leaves, Allison goes to the fridge and
Speaker 3: is touched to see that Billy has stocked it with
Speaker 3: soda uh huh for her uterus.
Speaker 2: But she did it, she said to fix this and
Speaker 2: he's like.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, And this is where Billy tells Allison that
Speaker 3: he's going to stick by her and see her through this,
Speaker 3: and he kind of goes in for a hug, maybe
Speaker 3: right in front of the fridge here, and she she
Speaker 3: kind of deflects, did you notice that I had to go?
Speaker 3: I can watch a couple of times he kind of
Speaker 3: goes in for hug and she kind of goes, you
Speaker 3: don't have to do that, like you just got me.
Speaker 3: You kind of go you have to do that. I
Speaker 3: was like, what is happening in this moment because then
Speaker 3: she says it's kind of coy. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 3: maybe I'm just imagining it, but this is what I saw.
Speaker 3: And then she tells him there's a silver lining to
Speaker 3: all this and that I got a real best friend.
Speaker 3: And I was like, is she trying to sort of
Speaker 3: like tease him about.
Speaker 2: That maybe happening?
Speaker 3: Because she's like, because you kind of like you kind
Speaker 3: of go to your room and he's left there smiling
Speaker 3: thinking about that.
Speaker 1: Well, the other thing is, is there something more more
Speaker 1: the best for her to accept help. It's hard for
Speaker 1: her to accept he's being so great, she does need him,
Speaker 1: and he's showing up for her. I think that's terrifying.
Speaker 3: I also just think it's one of these examples where
Speaker 3: what we're seeing is Courtney and Andrew underneath the Billy
Speaker 3: and Alison of it all. So like there's some other
Speaker 3: little colors here, and or maybe I'm just reading into
Speaker 3: it because I know anyway, So we got to the
Speaker 3: motorcycle service shop where Jake is working at night. He
Speaker 3: opens the door to find Colleen has knocked on the door.
Speaker 3: Jake tells her he's busy. She says, maybe I can help.
Speaker 3: She walks into the shop and they start talking a
Speaker 3: little bit. We see here that like they do have
Speaker 3: some things in common. She does know a thing or
Speaker 3: two about motorcycles.
Speaker 2: How to help them with the motorcycle, and.
Speaker 3: She says in this moment it she's sorry that they
Speaker 3: didn't get to settle down together, that she thinks she
Speaker 3: maybe would have been happy in a trailer. So at
Speaker 3: sort of a glimpse into their younger selves, I think.
Speaker 3: And then Jake says, you know that was over four
Speaker 3: years ago. This is now, and Colleen again asks him
Speaker 3: to do what's best for David and sign the yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's.
Speaker 2: Just like, you know, I saw this as one more
Speaker 2: scene of another woman telling Jake how to feel and
Speaker 2: what to do about this hugely profound situation he's in,
Speaker 2: right Like, Joe's like, well, I don't think you should,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, be careful about taking him on
Speaker 2: as your son and watch out. And then well then
Speaker 2: she comes back and with her bag at and says, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna here to make peace, but also she has
Speaker 2: this opinion no one's listening to him. And then Colleen
Speaker 2: comes back and she's like, oh, we had so much
Speaker 2: in common and stuff, but she really just wants him
Speaker 2: to like are you going to sign the page? The papers?
Speaker 2: And I just felt for Jake. I just felt like Jesus,
Speaker 2: no one has any empathy for this guy, pissed and her.
Speaker 2: Of course he's pissed by that, and he says that
Speaker 2: I'm pissed at you. You got what you want and
Speaker 2: I didn't get what I wanted. Yeah, it's very rightfully pissed.
Speaker 3: And he said, I think he makes a good point,
Speaker 3: he says, and.
Speaker 2: Then he says, well hold on, but then he says,
Speaker 2: don't push me, Colleen, I'm trying. Just give me a day.
Speaker 2: And then she leaves, right, but he's like, back off
Speaker 2: because he's just I just thought it was really well
Speaker 2: written and I felt for him.
Speaker 3: So then the next morning, jam in the shop. He's
Speaker 3: wearing the same T shirt. Did he spend the whole
Speaker 3: night working? I wonder? But he uses a payphone on
Speaker 3: the wall in the shop and he calls Colleen. He's
Speaker 3: been thinking about it all night, and apparently David Ann's
Speaker 3: is the phone because we hear Jake say Hi. He's like, Hi,
Speaker 3: you just see him go?
Speaker 2: Can I talk to your mom?
Speaker 3: Hi?
Speaker 2: Let's work something out.
Speaker 3: And then he gets Calleen on the phone and says
Speaker 3: he wants to work something out. He says he doesn't
Speaker 3: need her to tell David that Jake is his father,
Speaker 3: but he does want.
Speaker 2: To hang out with in person. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So then we cut to a really cute scene where
Speaker 3: Jake is getting ready in the mirror. He's getting ready
Speaker 3: to meet David. He's combing his hair and he's changing.
Speaker 2: His such a cute little montage, right, it's like getting
Speaker 2: ready for like a rom com. Yeah, they do those
Speaker 2: quick cuts.
Speaker 1: In the mirror, is Victoria's idea?
Speaker 3: Yes, totally, really super up.
Speaker 2: So he puts the jacket on and a button down.
Speaker 2: Oh the tie, Nope, too much, takes it off. Yeah
Speaker 2: no that's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's all nervous, super cute and he's excited. I
Speaker 3: love the tone of that scene. So then we see
Speaker 3: him walking out in the courtyard. He passes Joe on
Speaker 3: his way out, and he's definitely like hopeful and enthusiastic
Speaker 3: as he's going, and he tells her he's on his
Speaker 3: way to meet David, and Joe tells Jake have a
Speaker 3: good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have fun, and then she turns and then the
Speaker 2: camera hangs on me. He leaves the courtyard, and then
Speaker 2: Joe like she's happy for him, like some Oh no,
Speaker 2: I know what she's clocking. She's going to maybe follow them, follow.
Speaker 3: Him, right, because he says very intention I.
Speaker 2: Saw that moment, like why would she turn and smile?
Speaker 2: But this is a moment that's telling of what's to come.
Speaker 3: She's thinking she's something because she's.
Speaker 2: Got her equipment with her because she's a photographer. I
Speaker 2: never heard that.
Speaker 3: So then we go to the restaurant where Colleen, David,
Speaker 3: and Jake are having lunch together outside a nice restaurant
Speaker 3: and Jake is watching David and smiling. David is asking Jake, hey,
Speaker 3: were you and my mom yelling at each other yesterday?
Speaker 3: And he says, yeah, but you know that didn't mean anything.
Speaker 3: And Jake and David then get into their own little, lighthearted,
Speaker 3: little disagreement about superheroes, and David said, well, you know,
Speaker 3: it's okay that we're arguing because you're my mom's friend,
Speaker 3: and that's sort of a bittersweet thing for Jake to hear,
Speaker 3: is like, yeah, friends friend, but yeah.
Speaker 2: And then at one point the little kid says, hey,
Speaker 2: mom is dad? Where's dad? Is he is? Where's my dad?
Speaker 2: Is he joining us for lunch? And she has to
Speaker 2: look at Jake and go, no, he's not.
Speaker 3: And it was just like for Jake, it was right
Speaker 3: after the moment where he sees his kid like having
Speaker 3: the same habit as him, is he's And he's very
Speaker 3: deliberately he wants to know to Colleen, is that something
Speaker 3: that you guys do or Robert do or and She's like, no,
Speaker 3: that's just David. So it's like, oh my gosh, my
Speaker 3: kid has the same biological thing whatever. He has this
Speaker 3: like happy feeling on his face and he's so proud
Speaker 3: and just chiling.
Speaker 2: On the poignancy and the connection, aren't they?
Speaker 3: And then the reality about calling Robert Dad was like
Speaker 3: that's when he says, all right, give me the papers
Speaker 3: to sign. Super bittersweet. So then at d and D
Speaker 3: al And is working at her desk. Michael comes in
Speaker 3: and tells her that he's arranged to have her admitted
Speaker 3: to the hospital as a teaching patient and there will
Speaker 3: be no charge. Alison is super grateful. Michael gives her
Speaker 3: the consent forms to sign, and she asks him a
Speaker 3: little nervously if he knows what they're going to do
Speaker 3: to her, and he says, you're in great hands and
Speaker 3: your surgery scheduled for next week. I mean nice, like
Speaker 3: boom got her and he made it work. And so
Speaker 3: then we're out at the hotel Valet. Colleen and David
Speaker 3: are going to be leaving, so they're saying goodbye. Jake's
Speaker 3: bike is there and they're saying goodbye to Jake. Colleen
Speaker 3: says she always knew Jake was a terrific guy.
Speaker 2: He says, by motorcycle man, did you guys tear up?
Speaker 2: I totally was like, I mean, I was just like
Speaker 2: lost it for this guy. Got to build up his
Speaker 2: inner conflict, like this is my boy. I just but
Speaker 2: he doesn't. He doesn't, he doesn't say anything, and he
Speaker 2: picks the boy up, you know, and they touch foeheads
Speaker 2: and you're just like.
Speaker 3: A, yeah, they have the sweetest girl.
Speaker 2: And then there's that wonderful freeze and it turns to
Speaker 2: black and white.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, because as they're saying goodbye and they
Speaker 3: do that sweet little bi motorcycle man moment, we hear
Speaker 3: a camera click and you cut away and you see
Speaker 3: Joe is out there hidden and she's snapped a photo
Speaker 3: of this very moment and she's captured this moment of
Speaker 3: Jake and David.
Speaker 2: It's beautiful.
Speaker 3: So then in her apartment, Joe is developing the photos
Speaker 3: in her dark room. She hangs one up to dry
Speaker 3: and looks at it smiling. And then at Jake's apartment,
Speaker 3: he's standing in his kitchen counter eating a piece of pizza,
Speaker 3: having a beer when Joe knocks on the door and
Speaker 3: she hands him an envelope and he opens it to
Speaker 3: find the photo that she took of him with David,
Speaker 3: and he's absolutely speechless and asks Joe how she got
Speaker 3: this lovely photo. Joe admits that she followed him, and
Speaker 3: he thanks her, saying he owes her big time. Joe says,
Speaker 3: I'll collect later.
Speaker 2: She smiles at him, and she very suggestively. I don't
Speaker 2: know how to say, but you know, I'll collect later.
Speaker 3: But she doesn't stick around. She like lets him have
Speaker 3: this moment. Yeah, he goes back, and so he puts
Speaker 3: the photo on his fridge and he steps back to
Speaker 3: look at it, and the episode ends with him looking
Speaker 3: at this photo and saying, you're gonna be okay kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, were you guys thinking get a nice frame?
Speaker 2: I know I was beautiful picture.
Speaker 3: I also just thought it was such like a dad
Speaker 3: thing to do to put the photo on the fridge.
Speaker 2: It was such a thing to take a little magnet
Speaker 2: and put it right there in center. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he has a photo on the fridge, and.
Speaker 1: You remember, does the kid come back? Is this a
Speaker 1: recurring storyline?
Speaker 2: He looked from well, yeah, okay, So I was a
Speaker 2: little confused because don't you remember I thought Colleen was
Speaker 2: played by another actress.
Speaker 3: Later we will have to find out. We're so lucky
Speaker 3: we get to watch these episodes and find all these
Speaker 3: things that.
Speaker 2: I do believe we see this or another kid to
Speaker 2: play David.
Speaker 3: I think it's I mean, I think it's talked about.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if he actually makes We will have
Speaker 3: to find out, ladies, We will have to find out.
Speaker 1: Joe printed jeans and half like photographs.
Speaker 2: Of yeah printed yeah, yeah printed Verry artsy down and
Speaker 2: they were black for Joe to be wearing black. And
Speaker 2: I love the little I've always loved the black long
Speaker 2: sleep with the little cutouts that she wore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was out. But when you showed up at
Speaker 3: the door with your shoulders showing, huh, all cute. And
Speaker 3: the other sign of the times is, of course the
Speaker 3: payphone on the wall. It's at his workplace and he
Speaker 3: has to like stick a corder in to make a call.
Speaker 1: Have you guys talked about another shop for a second?
Speaker 1: Have you watched The Americans? So it's a spy that
Speaker 1: takes place in the eighties, and they're like being chased
Speaker 1: by bad guys with guns and they have to find
Speaker 1: a pay Oh god, Yeah, bones love it.
Speaker 2: Remember they went from a dime to a quarter?
Speaker 3: Yeah too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, we also had some fan comments recently. One of
Speaker 3: the one of our fans commented on our socials that
Speaker 3: she loves the Newest Recap episode and that she was
Speaker 3: born in nineteen ninety one, so getting context about what
Speaker 3: was going on in the world is extremely interesting. She
Speaker 3: said she also loves hearing Courtney share her opinions on
Speaker 3: Allison's wardrobe.
Speaker 1: How did you like your wardrobe this one, Courtney, I
Speaker 1: was not a huge fan, but I think with the
Speaker 1: enlarged uterus.
Speaker 3: I think I think the wardrobe was really based around
Speaker 3: the uterus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that for this laser in the opening
Speaker 2: with the it was like the nice embroidery and it
Speaker 2: was kind of a purple thing with the shoulder pads.
Speaker 3: You make it sound like shoulder pads, and it was
Speaker 3: nice in the day.
Speaker 1: No, that was that was a designer that Denise Wingate
Speaker 1: found that we wore a lot of oka beautiful blazers.
Speaker 1: Who else wore them? Juliuis Dreyfus wore a lot of them. Okay,
Speaker 1: I felt, yes, we have to find out the designer,
Speaker 1: but like that, if I mentioned that in the nineties
Speaker 1: that looked like.
Speaker 3: Something that she would wear. Elaine would wear it anyway.
Speaker 2: I thought that was I thought that you looked perfectly lovely.
Speaker 2: I thought Billy looked like Billy. But no, no pink
Speaker 2: pants with the tucked in with the belt t shirt.
Speaker 2: He's starting to look up.
Speaker 1: He was dressed as Santa. He was so insanely adorable,
Speaker 1: amantic leading and I'll take care of things, let me,
Speaker 1: I'll be there for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I went home together.
Speaker 1: Alison did soften a bit, thank god, because if she
Speaker 1: kept up her Yeah, she.
Speaker 3: Had a lot going on. She had a lot on
Speaker 3: her mind, a lot of pressure, a lot of stress.
Speaker 1: I don't know. If I mentioned she had a tumor,
Speaker 1: it was benign, but it would have to be a
Speaker 1: moving I did notice her enlarged insurance I don't know.
Speaker 2: And the parents were struggling and didn't have extra money.
Speaker 1: And my dad lost his job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're living off their savings.
Speaker 1: They really covered all the bases why I had no option.
Speaker 3: There's a lot. We had another comment from a listener
Speaker 3: and on Reddit, actually someone noticed and observed maybe Jane's
Speaker 3: back into referencing the Jane's baby storeline. Maybe Jane's baby
Speaker 3: is a metaphor for Melrose one point zero, and when
Speaker 3: the baby dies, so too does that version of the show.
Speaker 3: So right when that transition is happening, the show is transitioned.
Speaker 3: I thought, what a very profoundation.
Speaker 1: Although this one felt like the original episodes better, like
Speaker 1: more happened, like we're getting but it hasn't gone Yeah,
Speaker 1: these are gone off, like there's one about insurance and
Speaker 1: healthcare problems and one about Jake's child like these are.
Speaker 1: And then a date, a lovely date of romantic date.
Speaker 1: So it's still sort of standard.
Speaker 2: Starting to change, yeah, the process, but I like that
Speaker 2: point too. I love that people are, you know, thinking
Speaker 2: about it and pulling out because as we're doing for
Speaker 2: the first time undiscovering, like yeah, you know, it's like
Speaker 2: archaeology daycare, like remember this, remember that. I love that
Speaker 2: the fans are doing that with us.
Speaker 1: So do you remember, Laura, when you came on, was
Speaker 1: it still sort of sweet? And then when you came
Speaker 1: back is when it started to get crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't really have a sense of it
Speaker 3: being of like the before times or whatever. So just
Speaker 3: me coming on, my little bubble of storyline was I
Speaker 3: was already there to like mix it up a little bit,
Speaker 3: you know, so you did too.
Speaker 1: How long were you gone?
Speaker 3: I'm going to be gone for the rest of season
Speaker 3: one and then just going to come in for these
Speaker 3: thirsion two.
Speaker 1: Were you hired as a series regular?
Speaker 3: I can't. I don't think I was a series regular
Speaker 3: by title, but I was there for every episode.
Speaker 1: So you started off recurring and then they did a contract.
Speaker 3: They yes, I think so, and again, let's like await
Speaker 3: or you could.
Speaker 2: Keep recurring the whole five years, right.
Speaker 3: And it's like also you're credited for being a regular.
Speaker 3: That also just sort of means a different pay scale too,
Speaker 3: you know exactly, that's right. So yeah, so I think
Speaker 3: I came back as like I don't remember, but I
Speaker 3: think I came back as a guest by title. But
Speaker 3: I was there for kind of every episode for season
Speaker 3: two and beyond.
Speaker 2: Again, eighteen is our Christmas Christmas December twenty third, and
Speaker 2: then you'll when we come back in January, yep, we'll
Speaker 2: be watching you yep, so you won't have to feel
Speaker 2: left out anymore.
Speaker 1: So we're looking forward to our next weekend. For a minute,
Speaker 1: you're going to be a part of her min it
Speaker 1: and then you get booted out.
Speaker 2: Well too, you do too, right, I just do.
Speaker 3: And then it's Laurele, I'm gonna go back to narrating.
Speaker 2: Well, basically, you come in and then this this. By
Speaker 2: the time you come back, the show is just like
Speaker 2: what Yeah, see you guys next. Ye bye.