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Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.

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Speaker 2: And Daphne's Aniga and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 3: We're back for another Repat episode number seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we are a great episode. We're hurdling.

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Speaker 1: So much happened in this episode. Times like there were

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Speaker 1: like nine storylines in this episode.

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Speaker 2: It was really it.

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Speaker 3: Was They were really good. I feel like it's getting

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Speaker 3: really juicy. We're getting really close to Christmas. It's like

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Speaker 3: we're really getting into the meat of it, and we

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Speaker 3: finally have Joe and she's here to stay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this one's called Jake Versus Jake, And it

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Speaker 2: was really a great episode for a grant I.

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Speaker 1: Terrific for it was such a good episode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is seventeen and next week will be eighteen,

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Speaker 2: which is our Christmas episode, Melrose's first Christmas episode that'll

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Speaker 2: air on December twenty third.

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Speaker 3: And right around then we're also going to have our producer,

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Speaker 3: Chip has is going to be coming, So we've got

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Speaker 3: lots of coming on.

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Speaker 1: Coming up that'll be fascinating. Get the behind the scenes.

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Speaker 3: Loves to talk about Melrose, so we can't wait to

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Speaker 3: see him.

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Speaker 2: He was great. We loved him and before we start.

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Speaker 2: I just want to remind everyone to follow us still

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Speaker 2: the place on Instagram and TikTok and Facebook. All right,

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Speaker 2: here we go. I'm going to start us off and

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Speaker 2: then when I get exhausted, I'm going to hand it

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Speaker 2: over to Laura. She's so good at this, but I

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Speaker 2: want to give it a go. Okay, Jake Versus Jake

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Speaker 2: Season one, episode seventeen. Air date was November twenty fifth,

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two. Everyone thinking of what yesterday, nineteen yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Well, I will point out one thousand years I that

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Speaker 3: November of nineteen ninety two was an election year.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was, just saying because we start the episode

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Speaker 1: with Rick d.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Rick D's Kiss FM, and he is saying as

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Speaker 2: the camera pulls into the courtyard, Rick D's is in

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Speaker 2: the morning says that there was a call in asking

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Speaker 2: about the new leader in the White House, and Rick says,

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Speaker 2: I think she's going to be.

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Speaker 3: Fine because they think the reference to Hillary Clinton She's

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Speaker 3: going to be just fine would have been something Rickty's

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Speaker 3: could have just as well, saying that time so still there.

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Speaker 1: I believe probably doing his show like that's when your

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Speaker 1: shows like yeah popular used to be read just in

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Speaker 1: Kelly used to be Ready, Kathy Late and the Right,

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Speaker 1: one of the shows that you do every ten years.

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Speaker 2: Well, I.

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Speaker 3: So Rickty's was a huge morning show DJ.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that would be my guess. Maybe the fans

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Speaker 2: will let us know. We start off on Allison and

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Speaker 2: Billy's apartment in the morning, and Billy is making breakfast,

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Speaker 2: Allison's getting coffee, Billy is talking about taking a job

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Speaker 2: as Santa in a department.

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Speaker 1: Store, and Allison is being rude.

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Speaker 3: She's very preoccupied with something.

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Speaker 2: I feel like he's so exciting.

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Speaker 1: She's preoccupied because otherwise she's just a bitch. Hop.

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Speaker 2: I think she's preoccupied by He's adorable, wonderful Hawaiian shirt

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Speaker 3: Give her a break. She's preoccupied.

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Speaker 2: And then he notices that Alison's not paying attention.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's trying to get her attention, and he feels

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Speaker 3: And then he's like, but he tries to be prerocative,

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Speaker 2: So what she says, No, I'm thinking about work, and

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Speaker 2: And Billy asks Allison if she's looking forward to going

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Speaker 2: All right. So next we're in Jane and Michael's apartment

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Speaker 2: and Jane and Michael are packing for a trip to

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Speaker 3: We get to see that. No, we don't and it just.

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Speaker 1: Kind of we don't get dandalone.

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Speaker 3: No, we get to hear about it. Yeah, yeah, And

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Speaker 3: this conversation is sort of like Michael lamenting, wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: did they give me the time off for this? Because

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Speaker 3: Why are they giving me this time off at all?

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Speaker 2: I think it's reversed. I think it's like she's in

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Speaker 2: And she's like, you know, I'm taking on a romantic weekend.

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Speaker 2: Deal with it. And she goes up suggestively and says

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Speaker 1: Some I think they know.

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Speaker 2: At this point, he's like, oh, honey, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He's going to make that dark turn. So now they're

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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because he does have another one of

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Speaker 1: the scene, like you're you're pushing You're pushing Grant away

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Speaker 2: So then we're in the courtyard and Billy locks the

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Speaker 2: and says, hey, Billy, can I borrow twenty bucks like

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Speaker 1: You can have twenty bucks? I'm taking a lady out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my old girlfriend called, and I don't want to

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Speaker 3: But I'm broke?

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Speaker 2: I mean it was somewhere in nineteen ninety two, I.

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Speaker 2: No, he doesn't. He works there. It's not his shop yet.

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Speaker 2: because Joe remembers, because Joe I have had scenes with him.

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Speaker 2: He gets the shop. It's a whole big deal.

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Speaker 3: But Billy has a cash even though he's Santa for the.

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Speaker 2: Season, even though he was borrowing anyway, I'm just who

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Speaker 1: Uterus, which is so weird and vague to say, little

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Speaker 3: Further information, tell me more, and.

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Speaker 2: She asks, is there any possibility that Allison could be pregnant?

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Speaker 2: You know, we'll run some tests, and I think I

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that's what Alison's thinking too. Well, I

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Speaker 3: Look like Allison was maybe like, could it be you know?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that's what it is. Tell me more

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Speaker 2: Popular It is nerve wracking, I would think to hear that.

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Speaker 2: So again they don't know enough. So here we are

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Speaker 3: They get into a tussle over this slat of strawberries.

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Speaker 2: Penny just dropped. Daphne watched this episode three times.

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Speaker 3: But he apologizes, just figured out something right. I didn't

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Speaker 1: This was written by a man. This is what first,

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Speaker 3: Because we're just telling the story, folks.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't know what comes first. But Alison is, you know,

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Speaker 2: Do not The reality police know too early.

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Speaker 3: Don't ask wearing that, you don't ask, do not ask

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Speaker 2: Yes, we're in the restaurant, and uh, Jake and his

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Speaker 1: But and did she you guys, this was Beth Toussaint.

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Speaker 1: She was on Dallas. Do you remember her from Dallas?

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Speaker 2: So now we're at Shooters at night and Joe and

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Speaker 3: Well, because he really objects to that. He's the word

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Speaker 3: And I'm the owner, by the.

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Speaker 3: care about this stuff. Why do you care? What is

438
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 3: it that you think is happening here?

439
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,160
Speaker 2: Like that's what he challenged, trying to win her over,

440
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 2: and he's got a big hurdle because she doesn't like him.

441
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 2: Already from the morning.

442
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 3: She's a little Yeah, she's just a little annoyed. But

443
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 3: he's like, hey, this is all and by the way,

444
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 3: I own this place.

445
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 1: She's a lovely surprise.

446
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 2: So next we're yeah, next we're at the hotel lobby

447
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 2: and I noticed where they This is where Jake. Jake

448
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 2: is here in the lobby and he's there in his

449
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: leather jacket holding a teddy bear.

450
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 1: Do you think was it shut flows?

451
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 2: Oh? The low lows down. It was so pretty, so pretty.

452
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks out of place because he's in his

453
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 3: leather jacket.

454
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 2: With holding a teddy bear holding So he walks through

455
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 2: the lobby into the back and there's a pool at

456
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 2: the back facing the ocean, and he watches. He watches

457
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: Colleen and Robert and David the kid playing in the.

458
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: Pool in a tiny speedo, which.

459
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 3: It was his nineteen ninety two speedo.

460
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway, he Colleen sees Jake spying on them

461
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 2: and comes over and is like, what are you doing here?

462
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 2: Don't mess up my plan and don't be seen here.

463
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: If you want to talk to me, you call me.

464
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 2: Don't be macho, and don't ruin this.

465
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: Which is a good point. By the way, the kid

466
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 1: is Miko Hughes, who was in pet Cemetery and also

467
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: Full House.

468
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 2: And then a bunch of I looked him up and

469
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 2: I saw people saying, I think it was on a

470
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: podcast how a child actor became a horror star. So

471
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 2: he did a bunch of horror films. Yeah, I guess

472
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 2: his experience set him on his way, and he was

473
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: probably like six.

474
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: Here was adorable, right, Yeah, my little young to can act.

475
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: They just pound, Yeah, he was really really good. He

476
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 2: was adorable. So the little kid, David looks back at

477
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: Jake as they walk away.

478
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,959
Speaker 3: He walks away holding his dad's hand and yeah, and

479
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 3: Jake just watches. He's holding out ty baron painful, pretty.

480
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 2: Heart break, pretty heard. And then we all have come

481
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: to know and love Jake. I mean, yeah, grant Jake.

482
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: And so it is I think as hard as an

483
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 2: audience member to just see because he's such a good guy,

484
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 2: is my point, right, We're always pointing that out. So

485
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 2: now Ronda is walking down the street in workout gear

486
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: when Terrence pulls up and a Mercedes convertible.

487
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: Nice.

488
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: He's a very wealthy guy, clearly, and he says, hey,

489
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: Matt told me that you would see you around here.

490
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 2: I'd see you here, and Terence says, come to Catalina

491
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 2: with me, and she's like, well, I'd love to, but

492
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: I have errands to run and a Saturday class to teach,

493
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: and he Terence asks to chauffeur Randa to her class.

494
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 2: Ronda notices that it's not the same car Terence drove

495
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 2: on date night, and she's like, what you have like

496
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: all these cars and he's like, yeah, that was for

497
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 2: the schlepping around.

498
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: His Toyota is just for schlepping vegetables. And apparently for

499
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 3: first dates.

500
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 1: Maybe it was a test. Yeah, the bad table and

501
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: everything to sort of read her, and he told everything

502
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: to make a big deal. So probably the maitreat. He

503
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: wasn't looking at him because he said, don't make a

504
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: big deal because he wanted to.

505
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 2: Yes for him, very good, very good putting all the

506
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 2: pots together. But now now I want to get over stuff.

507
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: So now he's got his fancy Mercedes convertible and he says,

508
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: this one is for town.

509
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: And I want to take you to Catalina. Ronda asked

510
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: Harence if he wants to go tomorrow night. While he's

511
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 2: getting in the car and he says, yes, you bet.

512
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: Alison and Billy's apartment. Billy walks into the room in

513
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 2: full Santa costume where Alison is getting coffee.

514
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: Because he needs to be more adorable. Yeah, let's just

515
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: up the volume.

516
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: Yes, you're not gonna let me. Actually, you're going to

517
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 2: say everything's fine. I'm going to act like everything's fine.

518
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to ignore the passive aggression. So she goes, oh, good,

519
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: you got the job. Totally less than thrilled. Alison goes

520
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: into the living room and all of a sudden starts

521
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: crying on the couch and Billy.

522
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 3: Like from zero to a thousand, he's goofing around in

523
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 3: his in his best Santa voice, and he sits down

524
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,239
Speaker 3: next to her. She's turned away, and he says, what

525
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 3: do you want for Christmas? And she just and that's

526
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 3: that was the final She loses.

527
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: It starts to cry. So He's notices that she's upset

528
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: and takes off the Santa beard and says, hey, what

529
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 2: is going on? And she tells them they found a

530
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: benign tumor in my uterus and that is rapidly growing,

531
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 2: and he is absolutely shocked. But that she says she

532
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: needs an operation to have it removed. It's not cancer,

533
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: but it could mess up having children.

534
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: My mom called this my Stella Dallas speech because Stella

535
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: Dallas is like a soap person in the fifty there's

536
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: always something and it was like of a benign tumor.

537
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: It's rapidly growing. It's an operations up my kids of

538
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: having children. Oh be sure, there's another thing. I get there.

539
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: It was just like single, I have to tell you

540
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: all the things that's hilarious.

541
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: Ye peel him out of it.

542
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: Did your mom watch us with you?

543
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: Not with me? But she talked to me after she did.

544
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: She watched it was is one more thing?

545
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, also, and then the worst part.

546
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: Is and the thing is you have to do as

547
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 3: the actor. You have to do that a million times.

548
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 3: You have to keep saying these lines and after a

549
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 3: while you're like, okay, yeah, it's hard.

550
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 2: You must have been like, you know, like, oh, I

551
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: gotta do this again from the side and.

552
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: I remember listening to tory Amos like I found a

553
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: really sad song. I remember again prepping for this, and

554
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: then I think by the time we did it, I

555
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: just couldn't stop crying, Like I have a prepared I

556
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: want you going built. But I didn't build it. I

557
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: just just whatever I was like, Yeah, whatever I was

558
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: working on just completely took over because as a yeah,

559
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: Alison is crying and crying, faying, well this like maybe

560
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: wait and start crying on I can't have children, but

561
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: I start crying, I haven't benign tumor.

562
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 3: I well, it's a long scene and there's a lot

563
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: she has to get out, and you sustained.

564
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: It for the whole scene and it was great.

565
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: I was very sweet, but it didn't start but you

566
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: had a like you can tell like I was off

567
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: camera listening and I'm like go, I'm read go.

568
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: Just like.

569
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 3: You had a lot of information to tell Billy too.

570
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and upset about all of it was my parents

571
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: can't afford.

572
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 3: You Santa suit.

573
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: And then he goes, you'll it'll be okay, and he

574
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: leans over in that Santa suit gives you a big hug.

575
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he says, and that that's what that's when she

576
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 3: also reveals that she doesn't have health insurance and that's

577
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 3: the real thing.

578
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: She's And is this when he said because this line

579
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: killed me, but maybe it was when he goes, I'm

580
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: going to do everything I can to help you everything,

581
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: so get used to it was that this Because he

582
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: said that, I was like, ever, isn't that sweet? No,

583
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: I think that that's coming up.

584
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: He also says we'll find a way, We'll find a

585
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: way to make this work, and then she's like she

586
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 3: smiles through. It's like, you know, somehow sitting there looking

587
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 3: at you as Santa. I believe if Santa says it,

588
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: I actually believe it's very sweet. And that's when he

589
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: hugs her in his big risks again. You know, we've

590
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: always noticed that she cries.

591
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: We've always noticed the drama versus the humor. I mean,

592
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: you know, the stuff that these writers. This isn't just

593
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: a straight drama. This is a very out there show.

594
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: And I just love how the writers like have it

595
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: you pouring all this out and he's in a big

596
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 2: Santa alfad, I'm going to take care of you, And

597
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 2: there's always that lightness in that humor.

598
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 3: We're in the courtyard where Joe is knocking on Jake's

599
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 3: door with a bag of groceries she's carrying him. When

600
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: Jake answers the door, Joe says she came to apologize

601
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: for last night at Shooters. She asks if Jake will

602
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: accept the peace offerings she has brought, including the baggette

603
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: that's sticking out of the bag, and she says they

604
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: don't have to talk about anything, and so he agrees

605
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: to let her in, and then inside the apartment, she's

606
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: pouring wine while Jake tells her that he's thinking about

607
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: seeing a lawyer and getting some form of custody for

608
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: his son, saying he's angry that Colleen lied to him.

609
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: Joe notices the teddy Bear. Jake then tells Joe about

610
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: trying to go to meet David and that things didn't

611
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 3: go well. Jake says he thinks he could be a

612
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: really good dad. It's another scene of him just going

613
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: I think I could do this, but he doesn't want

614
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: to be like his own recent visit from his own mom.

615
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 3: He doesn't want David to think that he's pathetic, and

616
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: Joe says that's a completely different situation. Jake says he

617
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: doesn't feel good enough at anything adult and he really

618
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: wants to take care of his kid, and she asks him, well,

619
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: have you thought about what it would be like to

620
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: have a kid in your life and what life would

621
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: be like for the kid, including the expense she points out,

622
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: and this just kisses Jake off. He gets angry, walks

623
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: out of the room, saying, thanks for the wine, Joe,

624
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: And you just don't understand me anything. You don't understand

625
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: this or me.

626
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: He's not super good at difficult conversation.

627
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: He didn't want to be told that there was another

628
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: point of view on this.

629
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I feel like Jake has again this is

630
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: getting to the story of his self worth. I also

631
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: forgot to mention that this was directed by Victoria Hawkberg,

632
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: and Victoria was really good, Yeah at bringing out the

633
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: emotional story, bringing that to the forefront. So she uses

634
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: the camera, she directs the actors in a way that

635
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: isn't sort of like cookie cutter or expected. So the

636
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: blocking this scene ends with this wonderful I'm in the foreground,

637
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: you know. He comes to Joe and says, you don't

638
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: understand and you don't understand me, and turns and walks

639
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: back to the kitchen. And then the last shot of

640
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: this is me turning towards camera going oh, and then

641
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: he's in the background turn the other way.

642
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

643
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: And so there tells a story and that is the difference,

644
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: and that's what I really liked about Victoria. I really

645
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: loved working with her because she really worked with you

646
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: and your emotion.

647
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: I remember that long. I do remember her. The hours

648
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: were long, but she really cared. Yes.

649
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: And then this is a very emotional, you know, high stakes,

650
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: and I think it really came across. Yeah, so that's

651
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: that's the director as well. Yeah.

652
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: So then we're back at the hospital with Alison and Billy.

653
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: He's gone with her and they're in the intake office

654
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: where a hospital administrator is telling them that Allison cannot

655
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: be admitted without insurance.

656
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: And did you notice the body language I have Billy

657
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: and Allison, like if you were in couple's therapey, like

658
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: that's a happy couple. We were leaned in. I don't

659
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: know if she directed us because of the shot, like

660
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: we were leaned intoward each other, like subtle body language

661
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: you're basically touching each other.

662
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: Was like to me, it looked like two kids trying

663
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: to play grown up, Like they're in a you know

664
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like this is big life stuff and

665
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: health stuff and they're in a hospital, and it seemed

666
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: like two not kids, but two a young couple, you know,

667
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: trying to figure this out in this big ominous place, and.

668
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: His leministrator was great.

669
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: He was super sweeby, but like also very condescending to

670
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: these idiot children who didn't.

671
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: Know that they very high insurance. Yeah, yeah, isn't this

672
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: where Billy says, I want you know, my dad still

673
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: pays his bills in person, and we got to make

674
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: them know that you're a person. Well, that one overwhelmed.

675
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: Yes, I was like his objective was nice, like it

676
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: he has good advice.

677
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: Don't work with this guy though.

678
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: Like, I'm sure if we appeal to them in person,

679
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: they'll just let us to schedule you for surgery pinched glasses.

680
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: It's fifteen thousand dollars prepaid, which you know, I can

681
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: do my in today's dollars.

682
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: That kind of money she'd be she would have gone

683
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: insurance exactly. So fifteen thousand dollars in today's dollars is

684
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: very much money. And they realized they're going to go

685
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: try other hospitals. And he says, well, good luck with that.

686
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: It's thirty four thousand dollars.

687
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: All right, no way, and she's going to come up

688
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: with that for the surgery. So they try all these

689
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: other hospitals there now were cut to the parking lot

690
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: where they're coming out in the rain out of one

691
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: more hospital. They're clearly exhausted. They've been to all of them,

692
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: and Allison says, maybe she just won't have the surgery

693
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: at all. Maybe the fibroids would just go away.

694
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: And it's like real rain.

695
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was real rain. Nobody got in the rain.

696
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: They got a hut shoe. We have to get our day, ye, And.

697
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: Do you remember when they'd have to cover the cameras,

698
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: like you had to put plastic over all the times

699
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: when it rained. Yeah, it's a very big deal.

700
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: But here is where Billy says, well, listen, if you

701
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: can't come up with the money by tomorrow and figure

702
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: this out, I'm going to ask my parents for the money.

703
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: And Allison says, you're a great friend, but this is

704
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: my problem. And this is where Billy says to Alison

705
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: that you're my best end. That's super sweet. So she

706
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: kisses him on the cheek and she says, I still

707
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: will not borrow the money from your parents. So then

708
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: we're into the courtyard at night where Matt is with

709
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 3: Jane and Michael opening a box of Christmas decorations and

710
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: he drapes a tinsel garland around his neck as Jane

711
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 3: says it's her first Christmas with palm trees, and she

712
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: and Michael tell Matt about the decorations that were beautiful

713
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: on Gary Street in San Francisco.

714
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: You guys should have seen it.

715
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeahs I wish we could have brought cameras and.

716
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: Gary Street and Union Square was so beautiful and so funny.

717
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: Chris Smith, remember Union Square and the tree and the caroling. Gorgeous.

718
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: And then Alison Billy walk into the courtyard and Billy

719
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: makes a snide comment to Michael about like, ah, yeah,

720
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: right when you were up there hobnobbing with your medical

721
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: thieves and you guys are all greedy. Yeah, he says,

722
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: he's SICA doctors their rules and regulations. Michael's like, well,

723
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: Michael's like, whoa what Trana to take that personally, And

724
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: Jane says Jane sort of defends them and says, you know,

725
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 3: the people at the conference were very concerned about improving healthcare.

726
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: But Billy just scoffs and goes into his apartment. So

727
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: then Ronda and Terrence all of a sudden enter the scene,

728
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: coming walking down the stairs from her apartment. They're very

729
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: dressed up.

730
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 1: They look so gorgeous. She has on this silver dress

731
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: and I took a picture of it to send and.

732
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: He's in a like full black tie event.

733
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: Gorgeous.

734
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, she looks lovely. And Ronda introduces Terrence to all

735
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: of the friends and they head out, and Michael follows.

736
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 3: Allison says, what's going on with Billy. Allison says he's

737
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 3: just trying to help her, and he says, well, listen,

738
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: if what you're needing help with is medical problem, maybe

739
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: I can help.

740
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: And this is another good shot you're talking about Victoria

741
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: where it's me in the foreground and Billy just be

742
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: furious in the back.

743
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

744
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: I love at when you.

745
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 2: Both get to be actually yes, and you're moving yeah,

746
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: natural movement.

747
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, So Michael is in Allison and Billy's apartment

748
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: listening about Allison's situations.

749
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: Again, this lovely version of Michael.

750
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: He could not be like, maybe I can like take

751
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 2: it now, we'll last.

752
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like he said, must be about to turn.

753
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: They're making him.

754
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, let me help.

755
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, but right now he's mister nice guy. So he

756
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: offers to help. Maybe he can get her in for surgery,

757
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: and when he leaves, Allison goes to the fridge and

758
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: is touched to see that Billy has stocked it with

759
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: soda uh huh for her uterus.

760
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: But she did it, she said to fix this and

761
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: he's like.

762
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, And this is where Billy tells Allison that

763
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: he's going to stick by her and see her through this,

764
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 3: and he kind of goes in for a hug, maybe

765
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: right in front of the fridge here, and she she

766
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: kind of deflects, did you notice that I had to go?

767
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 3: I can watch a couple of times he kind of

768
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: goes in for hug and she kind of goes, you

769
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: don't have to do that, like you just got me.

770
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 3: You kind of go you have to do that. I

771
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: was like, what is happening in this moment because then

772
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: she says it's kind of coy. I don't know, maybe

773
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 3: maybe I'm just imagining it, but this is what I saw.

774
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: And then she tells him there's a silver lining to

775
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: all this and that I got a real best friend.

776
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: And I was like, is she trying to sort of

777
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: like tease him about.

778
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 2: That maybe happening?

779
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: Because she's like, because you kind of like you kind

780
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: of go to your room and he's left there smiling

781
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 3: thinking about that.

782
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: Well, the other thing is, is there something more more

783
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: the best for her to accept help. It's hard for

784
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: her to accept he's being so great, she does need him,

785
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: and he's showing up for her. I think that's terrifying.

786
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 3: I also just think it's one of these examples where

787
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: what we're seeing is Courtney and Andrew underneath the Billy

788
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: and Alison of it all. So like there's some other

789
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: little colors here, and or maybe I'm just reading into

790
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: it because I know anyway, So we got to the

791
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: motorcycle service shop where Jake is working at night. He

792
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 3: opens the door to find Colleen has knocked on the door.

793
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: Jake tells her he's busy. She says, maybe I can help.

794
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: She walks into the shop and they start talking a

795
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 3: little bit. We see here that like they do have

796
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: some things in common. She does know a thing or

797
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 3: two about motorcycles.

798
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 2: How to help them with the motorcycle, and.

799
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: She says in this moment it she's sorry that they

800
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: didn't get to settle down together, that she thinks she

801
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 3: maybe would have been happy in a trailer. So at

802
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: sort of a glimpse into their younger selves, I think.

803
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: And then Jake says, you know that was over four

804
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 3: years ago. This is now, and Colleen again asks him

805
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: to do what's best for David and sign the yeah,

806
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: and it's.

807
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: Just like, you know, I saw this as one more

808
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: scene of another woman telling Jake how to feel and

809
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 2: what to do about this hugely profound situation he's in,

810
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 2: right Like, Joe's like, well, I don't think you should,

811
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: you know, you know, be careful about taking him on

812
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: as your son and watch out. And then well then

813
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: she comes back and with her bag at and says, oh,

814
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna here to make peace, but also she has

815
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: this opinion no one's listening to him. And then Colleen

816
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: comes back and she's like, oh, we had so much

817
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: in common and stuff, but she really just wants him

818
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: to like are you going to sign the page? The papers?

819
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 2: And I just felt for Jake. I just felt like Jesus,

820
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: no one has any empathy for this guy, pissed and her.

821
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: Of course he's pissed by that, and he says that

822
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: I'm pissed at you. You got what you want and

823
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: I didn't get what I wanted. Yeah, it's very rightfully pissed.

824
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: And he said, I think he makes a good point,

825
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: he says, and.

826
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: Then he says, well hold on, but then he says,

827
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 2: don't push me, Colleen, I'm trying. Just give me a day.

828
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: And then she leaves, right, but he's like, back off

829
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: because he's just I just thought it was really well

830
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: written and I felt for him.

831
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: So then the next morning, jam in the shop. He's

832
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: wearing the same T shirt. Did he spend the whole

833
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: night working? I wonder? But he uses a payphone on

834
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 3: the wall in the shop and he calls Colleen. He's

835
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: been thinking about it all night, and apparently David Ann's

836
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 3: is the phone because we hear Jake say Hi. He's like, Hi,

837
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: you just see him go?

838
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 2: Can I talk to your mom?

839
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 3: Hi?

840
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: Let's work something out.

841
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: And then he gets Calleen on the phone and says

842
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: he wants to work something out. He says he doesn't

843
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 3: need her to tell David that Jake is his father,

844
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: but he does want.

845
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: To hang out with in person. Yeah.

846
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: So then we cut to a really cute scene where

847
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 3: Jake is getting ready in the mirror. He's getting ready

848
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: to meet David. He's combing his hair and he's changing.

849
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: His such a cute little montage, right, it's like getting

850
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: ready for like a rom com. Yeah, they do those

851
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: quick cuts.

852
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: In the mirror, is Victoria's idea?

853
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: Yes, totally, really super up.

854
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 2: So he puts the jacket on and a button down.

855
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 2: Oh the tie, Nope, too much, takes it off. Yeah

856
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: no that's good.

857
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's all nervous, super cute and he's excited. I

858
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: love the tone of that scene. So then we see

859
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: him walking out in the courtyard. He passes Joe on

860
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: his way out, and he's definitely like hopeful and enthusiastic

861
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: as he's going, and he tells her he's on his

862
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 3: way to meet David, and Joe tells Jake have a

863
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: good time.

864
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, have fun, and then she turns and then the

865
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: camera hangs on me. He leaves the courtyard, and then

866
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: Joe like she's happy for him, like some Oh no,

867
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: I know what she's clocking. She's going to maybe follow them, follow.

868
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 3: Him, right, because he says very intention I.

869
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 2: Saw that moment, like why would she turn and smile?

870
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: But this is a moment that's telling of what's to come.

871
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: She's thinking she's something because she's.

872
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: Got her equipment with her because she's a photographer. I

873
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: never heard that.

874
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: So then we go to the restaurant where Colleen, David,

875
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: and Jake are having lunch together outside a nice restaurant

876
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: and Jake is watching David and smiling. David is asking Jake, hey,

877
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: were you and my mom yelling at each other yesterday?

878
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: And he says, yeah, but you know that didn't mean anything.

879
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: And Jake and David then get into their own little, lighthearted,

880
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 3: little disagreement about superheroes, and David said, well, you know,

881
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 3: it's okay that we're arguing because you're my mom's friend,

882
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: and that's sort of a bittersweet thing for Jake to hear,

883
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: is like, yeah, friends friend, but yeah.

884
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: And then at one point the little kid says, hey,

885
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: mom is dad? Where's dad? Is he is? Where's my dad?

886
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: Is he joining us for lunch? And she has to

887
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: look at Jake and go, no, he's not.

888
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: And it was just like for Jake, it was right

889
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: after the moment where he sees his kid like having

890
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: the same habit as him, is he's And he's very

891
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: deliberately he wants to know to Colleen, is that something

892
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 3: that you guys do or Robert do or and She's like, no,

893
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 3: that's just David. So it's like, oh my gosh, my

894
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: kid has the same biological thing whatever. He has this

895
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: like happy feeling on his face and he's so proud

896
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 3: and just chiling.

897
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 2: On the poignancy and the connection, aren't they?

898
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: And then the reality about calling Robert Dad was like

899
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: that's when he says, all right, give me the papers

900
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: to sign. Super bittersweet. So then at d and D

901
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: al And is working at her desk. Michael comes in

902
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 3: and tells her that he's arranged to have her admitted

903
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: to the hospital as a teaching patient and there will

904
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 3: be no charge. Alison is super grateful. Michael gives her

905
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: the consent forms to sign, and she asks him a

906
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: little nervously if he knows what they're going to do

907
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: to her, and he says, you're in great hands and

908
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: your surgery scheduled for next week. I mean nice, like

909
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 3: boom got her and he made it work. And so

910
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: then we're out at the hotel Valet. Colleen and David

911
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: are going to be leaving, so they're saying goodbye. Jake's

912
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 3: bike is there and they're saying goodbye to Jake. Colleen

913
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: says she always knew Jake was a terrific guy.

914
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: He says, by motorcycle man, did you guys tear up?

915
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 2: I totally was like, I mean, I was just like

916
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: lost it for this guy. Got to build up his

917
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: inner conflict, like this is my boy. I just but

918
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: he doesn't. He doesn't, he doesn't say anything, and he

919
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 2: picks the boy up, you know, and they touch foeheads

920
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: and you're just like.

921
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: A, yeah, they have the sweetest girl.

922
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: And then there's that wonderful freeze and it turns to

923
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: black and white.

924
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, because as they're saying goodbye and they

925
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: do that sweet little bi motorcycle man moment, we hear

926
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: a camera click and you cut away and you see

927
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 3: Joe is out there hidden and she's snapped a photo

928
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: of this very moment and she's captured this moment of

929
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 3: Jake and David.

930
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

931
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: So then in her apartment, Joe is developing the photos

932
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: in her dark room. She hangs one up to dry

933
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 3: and looks at it smiling. And then at Jake's apartment,

934
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: he's standing in his kitchen counter eating a piece of pizza,

935
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: having a beer when Joe knocks on the door and

936
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: she hands him an envelope and he opens it to

937
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 3: find the photo that she took of him with David,

938
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 3: and he's absolutely speechless and asks Joe how she got

939
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: this lovely photo. Joe admits that she followed him, and

940
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 3: he thanks her, saying he owes her big time. Joe says,

941
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 3: I'll collect later.

942
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: She smiles at him, and she very suggestively. I don't

943
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: know how to say, but you know, I'll collect later.

944
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: But she doesn't stick around. She like lets him have

945
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: this moment. Yeah, he goes back, and so he puts

946
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: the photo on his fridge and he steps back to

947
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 3: look at it, and the episode ends with him looking

948
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: at this photo and saying, you're gonna be okay kid.

949
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, were you guys thinking get a nice frame?

950
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: I know I was beautiful picture.

951
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 3: I also just thought it was such like a dad

952
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: thing to do to put the photo on the fridge.

953
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: It was such a thing to take a little magnet

954
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: and put it right there in center. Yeah.

955
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he has a photo on the fridge, and.

956
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: You remember, does the kid come back? Is this a

957
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: recurring storyline?

958
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: He looked from well, yeah, okay, So I was a

959
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: little confused because don't you remember I thought Colleen was

960
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 2: played by another actress.

961
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 3: Later we will have to find out. We're so lucky

962
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: we get to watch these episodes and find all these

963
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 3: things that.

964
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: I do believe we see this or another kid to

965
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: play David.

966
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: I think it's I mean, I think it's talked about.

967
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if he actually makes We will have

968
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: to find out, ladies, We will have to find out.

969
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: Joe printed jeans and half like photographs.

970
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: Of yeah printed yeah, yeah printed Verry artsy down and

971
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: they were black for Joe to be wearing black. And

972
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: I love the little I've always loved the black long

973
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 2: sleep with the little cutouts that she wore.

974
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was out. But when you showed up at

975
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 3: the door with your shoulders showing, huh, all cute. And

976
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: the other sign of the times is, of course the

977
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 3: payphone on the wall. It's at his workplace and he

978
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: has to like stick a corder in to make a call.

979
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: Have you guys talked about another shop for a second?

980
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: Have you watched The Americans? So it's a spy that

981
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: takes place in the eighties, and they're like being chased

982
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: by bad guys with guns and they have to find

983
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: a pay Oh god, Yeah, bones love it.

984
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 2: Remember they went from a dime to a quarter?

985
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah too.

986
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

987
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: Well, we also had some fan comments recently. One of

988
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 3: the one of our fans commented on our socials that

989
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 3: she loves the Newest Recap episode and that she was

990
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: born in nineteen ninety one, so getting context about what

991
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 3: was going on in the world is extremely interesting. She

992
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 3: said she also loves hearing Courtney share her opinions on

993
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: Allison's wardrobe.

994
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: How did you like your wardrobe this one, Courtney, I

995
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: was not a huge fan, but I think with the

996
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: enlarged uterus.

997
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 3: I think I think the wardrobe was really based around

998
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 3: the uterus.

999
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that for this laser in the opening

1000
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: with the it was like the nice embroidery and it

1001
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: was kind of a purple thing with the shoulder pads.

1002
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: You make it sound like shoulder pads, and it was

1003
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 3: nice in the day.

1004
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: No, that was that was a designer that Denise Wingate

1005
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: found that we wore a lot of oka beautiful blazers.

1006
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: Who else wore them? Juliuis Dreyfus wore a lot of them. Okay,

1007
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: I felt, yes, we have to find out the designer,

1008
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: but like that, if I mentioned that in the nineties

1009
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: that looked like.

1010
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: Something that she would wear. Elaine would wear it anyway.

1011
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: I thought that was I thought that you looked perfectly lovely.

1012
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: I thought Billy looked like Billy. But no, no pink

1013
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: pants with the tucked in with the belt t shirt.

1014
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 2: He's starting to look up.

1015
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: He was dressed as Santa. He was so insanely adorable,

1016
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: amantic leading and I'll take care of things, let me,

1017
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: I'll be there for you.

1018
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I went home together.

1019
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: Alison did soften a bit, thank god, because if she

1020
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: kept up her Yeah, she.

1021
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: Had a lot going on. She had a lot on

1022
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 3: her mind, a lot of pressure, a lot of stress.

1023
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. If I mentioned she had a tumor,

1024
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: it was benign, but it would have to be a

1025
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: moving I did notice her enlarged insurance I don't know.

1026
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: And the parents were struggling and didn't have extra money.

1027
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: And my dad lost his job.

1028
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're living off their savings.

1029
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: They really covered all the bases why I had no option.

1030
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: There's a lot. We had another comment from a listener

1031
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: and on Reddit, actually someone noticed and observed maybe Jane's

1032
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: back into referencing the Jane's baby storeline. Maybe Jane's baby

1033
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: is a metaphor for Melrose one point zero, and when

1034
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: the baby dies, so too does that version of the show.

1035
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 3: So right when that transition is happening, the show is transitioned.

1036
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: I thought, what a very profoundation.

1037
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: Although this one felt like the original episodes better, like

1038
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: more happened, like we're getting but it hasn't gone Yeah,

1039
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: these are gone off, like there's one about insurance and

1040
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: healthcare problems and one about Jake's child like these are.

1041
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: And then a date, a lovely date of romantic date.

1042
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: So it's still sort of standard.

1043
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: Starting to change, yeah, the process, but I like that

1044
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 2: point too. I love that people are, you know, thinking

1045
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: about it and pulling out because as we're doing for

1046
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: the first time undiscovering, like yeah, you know, it's like

1047
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: archaeology daycare, like remember this, remember that. I love that

1048
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: the fans are doing that with us.

1049
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: So do you remember, Laura, when you came on, was

1050
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,479
Speaker 1: it still sort of sweet? And then when you came

1051
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: back is when it started to get crazy.

1052
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't really have a sense of it

1053
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 3: being of like the before times or whatever. So just

1054
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: me coming on, my little bubble of storyline was I

1055
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: was already there to like mix it up a little bit,

1056
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 3: you know, so you did too.

1057
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: How long were you gone?

1058
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to be gone for the rest of season

1059
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: one and then just going to come in for these

1060
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: thirsion two.

1061
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: Were you hired as a series regular?

1062
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 3: I can't. I don't think I was a series regular

1063
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: by title, but I was there for every episode.

1064
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: So you started off recurring and then they did a contract.

1065
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 3: They yes, I think so, and again, let's like await

1066
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: or you could.

1067
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: Keep recurring the whole five years, right.

1068
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 3: And it's like also you're credited for being a regular.

1069
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: That also just sort of means a different pay scale too,

1070
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: you know exactly, that's right. So yeah, so I think

1071
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 3: I came back as like I don't remember, but I

1072
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 3: think I came back as a guest by title. But

1073
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 3: I was there for kind of every episode for season

1074
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 3: two and beyond.

1075
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: Again, eighteen is our Christmas Christmas December twenty third, and

1076
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: then you'll when we come back in January, yep, we'll

1077
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 2: be watching you yep, so you won't have to feel

1078
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 2: left out anymore.

1079
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 1: So we're looking forward to our next weekend. For a minute,

1080
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: you're going to be a part of her min it

1081
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: and then you get booted out.

1082
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: Well too, you do too, right, I just do.

1083
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: And then it's Laurele, I'm gonna go back to narrating.

1084
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: Well, basically, you come in and then this this. By

1085
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: the time you come back, the show is just like

1086
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 2: what Yeah, see you guys next. Ye bye.