1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to The K Factor Everything 2 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: Kpop hosted by Bomhan, and today we have a very 3 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: very special guest. His name is Kevin Wu. For kapop fans, 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: this guy needs no introduction. However, for you guys radio listeners, 5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: here's a little blurb that we wrote for him just 6 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: in case. 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: Thanks. 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Today's guest is truly a global star. He made his 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: debut in in the K pop scene at just fifteen 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: years old. From being part of the beloved group You 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: Kiss to becoming successful solo artists, actor and Broadway performer, 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: Kevin Wu is a force who's bridged cultures through music, 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: fashion and film. Born and raised in California, Kevin helped 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: pave the way for future international K pop idols. Now 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: he's starring in Netflix K Pop Demon Hunters and many 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: many other shows. Please welcome the ever Carve Charas, Matt 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: ever charming Kevin WHOA. 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: I feel very honest, that's a great like little intro. 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: And I feel as though it's not even enough to 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: capture the talent and the personality that you want. Thank 21 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: you so much for coming here and being a part 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: of this show today. 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: Pleasure to meet you. Finally, And you know. 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: For K Factor history, you are our biggest guest yet. What. 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure you had big guests too, And we were. 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: Talking about this a little bit before the show started, 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: but it was really a long time coming, Like you 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: had so many mutual friends and like the projects that 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: you've been a part of, and like, for example, like 30 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: James James co James. 31 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: If you're watching What's. 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: Up, shout out to James. 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: A lot of my fans know, and like, James actually 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: danced in my first music video ever in Korea. 35 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: Awesome. He's a really, really talented dancer, probably one of 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: the best in the bids I think. And I had 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: a pleasure of working with James on the Cape show 38 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: I was in. And yeah, I see him all the 39 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 2: time on social media. He like dances for so many 40 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: capop acts when they come over bb BB Street Kids, 41 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: VMA crazy. 42 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, you met him in New York, New York 43 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: when you were doing the k Pop Broadway show. 44 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: How is that? 45 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I love New York. I'm glad I 46 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: just had an experience to like get to live there. 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 2: I'm originally from the Bay Area in California, so being 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: in the East Coast was definitely like a big switch 49 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: up for me in terms of energy and vibes. 50 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: Okay, but you're from New York, right, I'm from New 51 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: York and actually right now I'm in your home California, 52 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: and everyone, like I noticed, is like everyone smiles around here. 53 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 2: Hey, there's nothing to complain around here. If you've got 54 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: the sun, there's no I mean, traffic is kind of bad, 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: but you know, you're not bumping into people constantly on 56 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: the streets. We're never really walking on the streets. 57 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 3: Food is good to food is good. 58 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: Korean food hands down. I had to say, it's better 59 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 2: than New York. 60 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: Okay. 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: I've been looking for good Korean food, Okay. And the 62 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: best place, like specially you have like a reference. The 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: best place I've been to in La so far was 64 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: this place called pong. 65 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: Oh beg jump oh yeah, my friend, really amazing. Again, 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: they are like one of the OG's and they just 67 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: opened a new one. I don't know if you you 68 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: probably went to the new one that just opened. So 69 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: good if you like ning neon, cuddle ingon, sorry, it's 70 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: called you Okay, it's like one of the best staple okay. Yeah. 71 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: And then of course bc D BCD. Is that a 72 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: California thing? 73 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: I mean it originated I think in katon Lay. I 74 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: think I don't know cret me from Ronk, but there 75 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: is one in katwn in New York. 76 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: Yes, but I do you. 77 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: Have to say there's a little I mean it's good, 78 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: it's good, but I feel like the taste is a 79 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: little bit different. 80 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, cool. 81 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to bash on, dude, but it's a 82 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: pleasure to meet you because we were just talking about 83 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: like all these projects and you live in Korea. We 84 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: also have so many mutuals in the K pop world. 85 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Alexa, Alexa, Oh my gosh, talk about this. 86 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 3: Shout out Alexa. I love Alexa so much, doesn't And 87 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: I call Alexa mom because she's so much. 88 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: Baby. And for you, I've seen the Demon Hunters when 89 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: they do that. We're about to reenact that thing. 90 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: Speaking of Hunters, my favorite movie ever, me. 91 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: Too, and I'm the whole world feels the same way too. 92 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 3: And you were one of the Saja boys. 93 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: I was. I was a vocalist for Mysteries Haja wow. 94 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 3: Yeah wow. How is that whole process? 95 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: I mean I'm still processing it, you know. Day by day. 96 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: There's like a new record, new milestone that this film 97 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: is breaking. 98 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: That you're a part of. 99 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a huge honor and I'm grateful for 100 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: the opportunity to participate in such a groundbreaking film. It's 101 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 2: the first of its kind to have a K pop 102 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: storyline and an animated film from and also like a 103 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: major studio like Sony Animations. It's it's epic with. 104 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: All these pieces. Did you ever see k pop Demon 105 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: Hunters being as big as it was when you're working 106 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: on it. 107 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone ever expected this to go as 108 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 2: viral as it's going. I mean, like the ultimate goal. 109 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't think anyone knows or is 110 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: prepared for anything like this. But I knew from the 111 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: get go the songs were bangers. I actually didn't hear 112 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: the Hunters songs because I only did the Soja Boy song. 113 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 2: So last year we actually recorded this in New York. 114 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: I recorded sort of Popping Your Idol last year and 115 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: they're very like confidential with like you know, music and everything, 116 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm very curious about the Hunterrick songs, 117 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: but you know, I had to wait like a year 118 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: or so. But when I heard it, I was like, 119 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: this whole album, there's no skip songs, Like every song 120 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: is a hit after hit ah, So I knew the 121 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: soundtrack was gonna be bomb. 122 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: What was the process of like recording the soundtracks for 123 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: like a group that like isn't real, you know, like 124 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: having the experience of like being kiss Yeah, I. 125 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: Mean, you know, being part of a boy band myself 126 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: from you kiss, Like, I'm always in the studio recording 127 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: and it's nothing different. You know, I'm recording a pop 128 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: track and it's like a k pop you know that 129 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: in that world. So it wasn't too difficult for me 130 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: or anything new. But it was cool to kind of 131 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: play with different tones and vocal textures and styles to 132 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: match and and and breathe life into this character. And 133 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: for me, it was mystery s haja. And the most 134 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: thrilling experience was to see like the because early on 135 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: last year when I was recording this, we only had 136 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: the sketches, so we didn't have the full animation to 137 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: like see or or record off of, and which is 138 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: really cool because I remember got to see like the 139 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: process of the making of an animation film and it's 140 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: super cool because like it's like sketches of like you know, 141 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: it's not completely like done yet, so for me to 142 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: see that and like but I got to see like 143 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: the outline of the character and I knew like he 144 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: didn't have any he had bangs and like he was 145 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: like literally mystery. So you know, getting the vocal directing 146 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: by the music producers e J who's also the voice 147 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: of Roomy incredible talent, just like insanely talented, and Ian 148 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: Eisendrath who is the music producer as well. Yeah, we 149 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: we were like all having fun, you know, playing around 150 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: with different styles, trying to find the perfect fit. 151 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna ask like when you were in 152 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: the studio, they just go like, yo, Kevin Woo, just 153 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: be Kevin wo or was yeah, embody a character? 154 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: So you know, like before I flew to New York 155 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: to record this, they actually wanted to hear, like test 156 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: my vocals on this track so to pop and I 157 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: just recorded in my room, just gave them that like 158 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: a capella line, just me singing it and then they 159 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: loved it. So I don't think like I had to 160 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: do anything too different. 161 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: And they're still testing you man, that's crazy. 162 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: But I mean they already I heard my boys, you know, 163 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: with my Yukus tracks and my solo songs on Spotify 164 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: and everything. But yeah, I feel like they wanted something 165 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: more because they loved what I had like originally, but 166 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: I feel like like something that I don't normally do 167 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: in my music, like a super breathy version, like for example, 168 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: it's like in your ums just so t like it's 169 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 2: like I was singing it like that, but in this 170 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: recording version, I have to be like you run zaw 171 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: are so tight, Like it has to be more theatrical, right, 172 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: and more like animated obviously because the animated film. But 173 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: that was really fun to test different tones. 174 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: Wow wow, and it's your first time doing like an 175 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: animated project yep, and it blew up. 176 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it feels like I won the jackpot, honestly, 177 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: Like you know, it's just for me. It's an honor 178 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: to be a part of this film that represents my 179 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: culture and K pop, you know, which I'm from. But 180 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: to be in a movie that's this impactful in pop 181 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: culture and in film is like that's another level. Like 182 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: I did not expect this, and I'm seriously right now, 183 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, still, I have to pitch myself every day 184 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: because when I see my Spotify monthly listeners, before Capo 185 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: Demon Hunter's there was like, you know, anywhere from ten 186 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: thousand to fifteen thousand, which is like, you know, I 187 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: didn't really release a lot of music, so it was 188 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 2: like in my hiatus era. So I was like, okay, 189 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: I'm just like still working on my music and everything. 190 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: But after the music, the movie and the soundtrack released, 191 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: the next day was like one million. 192 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: Wow, because your your profiles attached. 193 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: It up exactly pop in your idol rises together. And 194 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: then right now it's been like two and a half weeks, 195 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: maybe three weeks, and right now it's at seventeen point 196 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: seven million, and it continues to rise every day. 197 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: Wow. 198 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: So every day is just like another milestone after another milestone. 199 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: Okay. 200 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: So for Kevin Wu fans, does this inspire you or 201 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: like light a spark for you to like do more music? 202 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: I mean, so I've been working on music, you know. 203 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: I just released a single called Deja Vu and Phoenix 204 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: in April like two months ago, three months ago, and 205 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: I'm glad I did because there's something for fans or 206 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: like newer audiences to you know, look up when they 207 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: see Kevin Wu. But definitely. I mean I already had 208 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: another single or have another single in the works, but 209 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: it just inspired me to make more music. 210 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 3: But what is this what is this new single that 211 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: you're talking about? 212 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: Yees, So I'm releasing it soon later this summer, and 213 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: it's like more of like this summer. 214 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: Bob summer bop, you know vibe. 215 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: Okay, But yeah, I mean I don't think Demon Hunters 216 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: changed the trajectory of like my solo music or what 217 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: I've already been doing. But now with this like new audience, 218 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: I do feel a bit more motivated. Yeah, sure, more 219 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: and and it has opened more doors because now producers 220 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 2: are knocking out my door labels. 221 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: She did so good. 222 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 2: Thank you. 223 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: Literally the part in Soda Pop, Like I didn't know 224 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: it was you, but then I was like, dude, this 225 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: is my favorite part in Soda Pop. 226 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: I was like, this is the best in your hand. 227 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 3: I'm not even because you're. 228 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: Like literally that means a lot. 229 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: I'm so geeked out that you're doing this podcast. 230 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: Thank you. 231 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: We have to do the Soda Pop challenge. 232 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: We have to after this interview. We got to do 233 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: soda pop and maybe even. 234 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: Your I that's a little hard. 235 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: A little hard, but you could do it. Okay, you're 236 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: you're idol trained artists. I'm there, No, But what was 237 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: your favorite song of the soundtrack? I know that's like 238 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: been a trend on TikTok, like listing your top ten, 239 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: like yeah, what's been on yours? 240 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: Yo? 241 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 3: Okay, soda pop was like was and you don't have. 242 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: To you don't have to like sugarcart it because I'm here. 243 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: Like for me, my number one is still like Golden, Golden. 244 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: I have to start with golden, Golden to start my day. 245 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: Mine is golden and free free yep f free, Relax. 246 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: The equipment is going to start floating that. 247 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: Song like it takes me somewhere else. I feel like elevated. 248 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: You know what it gives me? 249 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: It gives me rewrite the stars, yes, yeah, yes, the 250 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: same context like everything. 251 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 2: If yeah, yeah, yeah, it's that same with. 252 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: That like hip hop, it's like a little bit of 253 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: a hip hop twist to it. We're modern, it's more 254 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: it's more K pop, but. 255 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: It also has like those kind of like you know 256 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: tail uh you know tones to it that make you 257 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: feel like nostalgic as well. And it's just so pretty 258 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: and it takes you to another like ethereal world. 259 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where your part in sort of Pop 260 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: took me really literally, I didn't like pop besides your 261 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: part and the part that was. 262 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: Actually you didn't do that. 263 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: I didn't one in your arms just su tied, suit tied. 264 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: Can I let go? No, No, that's nice. I'm gonna cry, 265 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: like like I gotta like stop smiling because like literally 266 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: getting wrinkles these. 267 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: It's about time, dude, Like I I think people are 268 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: gonna watch this, they're gonna think we're the same age 269 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: or like I hope so. 270 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: But when I heard your age before we started recording this, 271 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: I was like, damn, you could be like my, my, 272 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: my nephew. 273 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 3: Oh that's that's crazy. 274 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: Literally damn because you have you were in the two thousands, 275 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: like my like my year starts with the nineties, in 276 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: the nineties. But but I wanted to talk about that. 277 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: I remember like we were we were. 278 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: Watching a bunch of like the whole production scen We're 279 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: watching a bunch of old interviews. I think like sometime 280 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: like like even like ten years ago, you were like, 281 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: yok pop is going to come to America, like yeah. 282 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: And and you. 283 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: You've been here, you've been working, like doing films, doing 284 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: Hollywood stuff and and like. 285 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: The first ever k pop Broadway show. Yeah, that was 286 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: my first like leg in the door really really you 287 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: know us and like Hollywood, and that was kind of 288 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: like the beginning of my US career. 289 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: I'd say, we need you, dude, Like ever since I 290 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: was a kid, we like look on TV and we're like, 291 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: we don't have like we don't have like a handsome, 292 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: attractive man Hollywood man, Like can you imagine like a 293 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: twelve thirteen year old Asian kid like watching you and 294 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: all these Hollywood productions. 295 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: I wish, I wish I grew up with someone like me. 296 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: When I was growing up, I had zero, like literally 297 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: zero that guy. Now, dude, I like and I and 298 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: you know, I'm just so happy that these days, like 299 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: kids who are growing up and like watching film and 300 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: consuming like mainstream media, now they don't have to fight 301 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: for representation, right they could just point out Demon Hunters 302 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: and like that's my culture. Number one on Nothing, number one, 303 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: number one soundtrack too. It's crazy to see how present 304 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: K pop and Korean culture is and how deeply rooted 305 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: and embedded it is in pop culture because you can't 306 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: be on social media and not see like black ping 307 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: or bts, like literally just like that's everything on everyone's feet, 308 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: Like what is Jenny up to? What is Lisa to? Like? 309 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: I just went to Black Peans tour in La the 310 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: Dead Light, yeah, on Sunday and Saturday. 311 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: I went both. 312 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because little Flex here like Lisa's you know 313 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: my girl really yeah, we're like, you know, really good 314 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: friends and every time like she comes to the States 315 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: in LA, like you know, we always hang out. And 316 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: I've just seen her career just like, oh wow, just 317 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: seen the whole thing and couldn't be like a prouder 318 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: like I don't know, oh bah, you know, I'm just 319 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: so proud of Lisa and like all of her you know, 320 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: acclamations too, because she really made a name for herself 321 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,359 Speaker 2: in the Hollywood industry as well with White Lotus. 322 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh my gosh, that was amazing. 323 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: So like yeah, like K pop idols here and there, 324 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: including myself, I guess now like we're all kind of 325 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: like making an impact on one production at a time. 326 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: I feel like it's like such the beautiful thing about 327 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: K pop, you know, and like being able to spread 328 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: it and like even like having an iHeart Radio placement, 329 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: like none of this. 330 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: You are also making ways too, having your own K 331 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: pop you know, themed podcast on iHeart Radio. 332 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: That it wouldn't be possible without all the work that 333 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: you have done. So thank you, thank you so much. 334 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: And oh man, but you were at the Black Pink concert. 335 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: I couldn't go schedule that day and I didn't I 336 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: didn't have I didn't have any one of the inside. 337 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure they're playing New York soon, so you you 338 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: gotta find your plug. I gotta get in best concert 339 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: I've been this year. 340 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 1: Amazing performers like it don't get enough yeah jump, oh, 341 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: they don't get enough credit. 342 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: The set list is like a goad jillion songs. 343 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: No and exactly, and after each member you know, had 344 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 2: their solo run. It felt like four soloists in one concert. 345 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 2: So you know, fans really got their bang for their book. 346 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: They got to see four different shows because each member 347 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 2: like had their moment, you know, and like that's the 348 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: jenny you know, also like rock Star GC with Earthquake 349 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: and then like oh my god, when when Rose they 350 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 2: brought up Bruno Mars on Sunday, I lost my mind. Wow, 351 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 2: Like the whole stadium was just like lost. 352 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's like yeah, sorry, that's a 353 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 3: huge record. 354 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: Crazy. 355 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just. 356 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: See Bruno, I was like I thought I would never 357 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: see them perform. People. 358 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: Do you think Apasa is bigger than Gungham Style? 359 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: I mean it's just a different era. I think it's 360 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: just as big. 361 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 362 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 2: I think the impact it made in this generation was 363 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: probably the same impact that gungam Style made in twenty ten. 364 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: Because I lived in America for a bit and like, 365 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: like I was in Vegas and there are people like 366 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: just like playing basketball, like like we were like sixty 367 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: year old people who like never should be around K pop. 368 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: Ever They're like too ye too. 369 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was insane. You gotta take it out. 370 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. If they're making a New York stop and I'm there. 371 00:18:52,640 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: Me too, No me, I'm just I'll see what I 372 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: can do. 373 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 3: Okay. I have a question. 374 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: You have been part of this industry for so long, 375 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: and you're looking at all these young italent like coming 376 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: up and then now and now you're doing Hollywood and 377 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: all these things. 378 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: What is your goal. 379 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 1: And aspiration at this moment, Like, what is something that 380 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: you're still striving and chasing. 381 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: Man, I feel like there's never an end to it, 382 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 2: you know, because there are many moments in my life 383 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: where I felt like, oh, I made it, Okay. My 384 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 2: first I made it moment was when I debuted in 385 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: a K pop group like I, when I debated U Kiss, 386 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: I was like, mom, dad, I made it. And I 387 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: was seventeen, like sixteen seventeen, So that was like first, 388 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: like I made it a moment. And then I just 389 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 2: had an incredible journey with my members, like you know, 390 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: doing world tours, traveling and like really spreading K pop 391 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: because at that moment, it wasn't as global as it 392 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: is today, Like we were still going to countries where 393 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: they never heard of K pop but still had a 394 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 2: niche dan club and like fandom because of YouTube and 395 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 2: all that. But yeah, just seeing the impact we made 396 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: as a group in like second generation of k PAP 397 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: was like a dream come true. Heating to perform in 398 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: countries like Mexico, like like Europe, Southeast Asia was also 399 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 2: huge second generation also Japan y was we really made 400 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 2: a big like establishment as a group in Japan in 401 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: the earlier days. So yeah, that was like a big 402 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: dream that came true, and then I guess, you know, 403 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: I've always wanted to be an actor. So during the pandemic, 404 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 2: that's when I actually moved to La. Okay, So I 405 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: left Yukus in twenty seventeen. You know, it was doing 406 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: I was doing musicals in Japan and Korea. I love theater, obviously, 407 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: I was on a Broadway show. So I was fulfilling 408 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: like that void of like performing on stage as a 409 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: musical art performer. And then twenty twenty one, I was like, okay, 410 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to be stuck in my room. I 411 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: was doing a lot of live streams, you know, TikTok 412 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: was just to have its moment, and then I was like, okay, 413 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: I need to get out of my room. I feel 414 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: very suffocated. And so I started to find ways to 415 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 2: like like have acting classes or meet like you know, 416 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: representation out here, like managers and agents. So I took 417 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 2: the leap of faith to move out to LA and 418 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 2: then that kind of started my acting career. 419 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: So you're still in Asia during the pandemic. 420 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: I was, yeah, in twenty twenty, I was still in Korea. 421 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: And then after a whole year of just being stuck 422 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 2: in my room and at home. I was like, I 423 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: feel very like, just like Antsy to go back home 424 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: to America. 425 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 1: You took a huge jump to lead career, like they 426 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: were defeated by the pandemic, you know. 427 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: True, true, But for me, something was fueling and I've 428 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: always there was there were so many dreams and aspirations 429 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 2: that I didn't fulfill yet that I felt like I 430 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 2: needed to pursue. So, yeah, I moved to la And 431 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: it was a hard decision because I lived in Korea 432 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 2: for about fifteen years and it was definitely home for me. 433 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 2: But I feel like I needed to start this new chapter. 434 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: And and now, you know, K pop is still making 435 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: its presence in Hollywood, but I feel like, you know, 436 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 2: as each year goes by, there's something that kind of 437 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: sets a new wave and new I guess, like momentum 438 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 2: in k pop. So I feel like I'm just here 439 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: at the right moment, at the right time. I feel 440 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 2: very lucky. Honestly, I don't. I just kind of still 441 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: can't believe how big this is getting in in America. Congratulations, no, 442 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: thank you, And your question, Yeah, do I want to 443 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 2: do more of Hell? Yeah, I want to keep on 444 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 2: doing more like films as an actor, but I also 445 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 2: like have an ongoing passion for music. 446 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: Obviously music is at my cores now. 447 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: So music is definitely on my list. I want to 448 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: do tours, hopefully more world tours as a solo war artist. 449 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: And I have another movie coming out in January twenty. 450 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: Six Are you allowed to talk about? 451 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: So this film was directed by Anderson Peck, the Grammy 452 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: Award winning you know, ultimate musician that like I really 453 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: really respect. He is someone that just really is such 454 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: a musical genius and he came from like he started 455 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: from the bottom up, Like he is so respected in 456 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 2: our industry. And for him to like direct and star 457 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: in a movie about K pop because it's called K. 458 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: Pops Okay Okay, it's called K Pops. 459 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 2: It's called K Pops Okay, and it's a feature film 460 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: and it also stars his real life son Soul Rashid, 461 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: and I star alongside Anderson Pack was just crazy to say. 462 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: It's like, wow, I can't believe it, but but yeah, 463 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: I play like a K pop star in that film. 464 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 3: It's accurate. It fits. 465 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. 466 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: I heard nothing but good good things about this guy. 467 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: By the way, he is hilarious. He's super talented. I've 468 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 2: been seeing multiple shows of his one of his concerts 469 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: on tour. And also he does a lot of DJ 470 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: sets as d J pee Wee. He does like Coachella, 471 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: he does like so many cool parties here in LA 472 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: and all around the road, like Vegas too. But every 473 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: time I'm with him, it's just he's the life of 474 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: the party. Such a such a down to earth, humble 475 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: guy too. 476 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why hear I'm like, I'm like acting like 477 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: surprise right now. 478 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: I actually had a friend who was working on the 479 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: movie alongside Oh. 480 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out Emmy, Emmy. 481 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: Oh my god, my little my little tonge saying shout 482 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: out to Emmy if you're watching. 483 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: The two people that she talked about the most while 484 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: she was in production for this movie was Anderson Anderson 485 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: Park and you and me. 486 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we work together every day nursing and shooting. 487 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: Like this whole process was so interesting because it felt 488 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: like I returned into, like back in my idol form, 489 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: because the training for this movie was just as like 490 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: rigorous as an idol training. Because this movie is based 491 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 2: off like this K pop competition show in this fictional movie, 492 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: and I'm like one of the contestants, and so is 493 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: Emmy and and like that's how like this like in 494 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: this movie, we that's how we interact. But I can't 495 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: spoil too much, but there's a lot of dance obviously. 496 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: Yes, I saw the huge numbers being yeah, choreographed by 497 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: a huge amazing people. 498 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: Like Jung look and yes, incredible, incredible, And so every 499 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 2: day for like I would say, almost a month, we 500 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: practiced like the big number and we each had like 501 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 2: our own moments too, but like we were in the 502 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: studio from like ten am to like five pm. You 503 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: know how that feels like right, and you're like, wow, 504 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 2: I don't I didn't know its signing up to be 505 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 2: like the debut as an. 506 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: Idol, like you're back like ten years later exactly. 507 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 2: But I had a lot of fun with it, and 508 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 2: just working with such big names in the industry. 509 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: You kind of catch like a little like runners high. 510 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: When you're in the studio for that long, it's just 511 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: like okay, we're here. 512 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. And what really lit a fire up our butts too, 513 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 2: is that Anderson would come in the studio and check 514 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: up on us, and when he's in the back of 515 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 2: the studio, we would like go from one hundred to 516 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty, like two hundred because if 517 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: we want to like please them, like this is his movie, 518 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: his baby, and you don't want to like, you know, 519 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: you checking a lot he did. 520 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes it hard. 521 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there was no slacking for sure, right yeah, right, Okay, 522 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: So you've heard the music for K Pumps and you've 523 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 2: heard the music for Demon Hunters. 524 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 3: Would you say they're like on the same level. 525 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: Man, it's so good. 526 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: It's good. 527 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: It's so good. I think it's there's another wave of 528 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: a track like aiming for number one spot like on 529 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: Billboard Anderson Anderson, Yeah, that number one. And also the 530 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 2: music's for itself because like the music has just so 531 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: much heart in it, and I think what like it's 532 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: so charming and so like moving with soundtrack albums is 533 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: because you are invested in this story. You're in this 534 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: like like ride in this movie, and you feel very 535 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: connected with the characters and like the arc of the film. 536 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: And so when you hear the music being a part 537 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: of that, when you listen to the soundtrack, like you 538 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: you relive those moments. Yeah, which was which is what's 539 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 2: happening with Demon Hunters? 540 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, That's why I love Free so much. 541 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: I know when when they wore fly, they like hold 542 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 2: hands off. 543 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: There's this trend of like not really a trend, but 544 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: like of albums having these like long extended music videos 545 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: where like like a whole album comes together to be 546 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: like a movie. 547 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 3: That's like what K pop Demon Hunters, and like these 548 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: movies are. 549 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: Exactly and I feel like K Pops. I mean again, 550 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 2: I can't spoil it too much, but that's I think 551 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: what is it's gonna be. I have a good feeling 552 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: about it. And also the cameos, Okay, I mean, so 553 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: this film already premiered at big like film festivals like 554 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 2: TIFFs around the International Film Festival and also Tribeca like 555 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: a few months ago, and so like the secrets already out, 556 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: like who's in it? So we have cameos from seventeen 557 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: So Vernon is also a cameo in this film. J 558 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: Park Wow, Jesse Wow. And like on the you know 559 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: Western artist side, we've got like Dip Blow, earth Wind 560 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: and Fire up. 561 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: What is going on? 562 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 2: Like earth Wind and Fire just says it all. And 563 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: then we have Jaden Smith. Like there's so many cool 564 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: cameos that you wouldn't expect in a movie K pops. 565 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a K pop movie. 566 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the soundtrack I could already you guys can 567 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: already imagine what it'll be like with all these. 568 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: Different ways the fans kind of piece that together. Yeah, 569 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you, dude, like even hearing your 570 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: story like a little bit deeper about it and like 571 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: the pandemic, like stepping away, taking a decision to step 572 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: away from K. 573 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: Pop, Yeah, because I was so heavily rooted into it 574 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: my whole life since I. 575 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: Was us is a huge game. Yeah, U kisses. 576 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: Also, yeah, we also did make our mark, But I 577 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: feel like I needed to remove myself because like I 578 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: needed to see the world from a different perspective. I 579 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: felt like I was a little bit trapped in a bubble, 580 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: you know, with what the media, fans, the label kind 581 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: of wanted from me as an individual and as an artist. 582 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: So I'm sure you could resonate with this as well 583 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: as someone who is from K pop, Like I just 584 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: needed some time to kind of like discover myself as 585 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: a human being first and foremost, really finding debut when 586 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: you were seventeen, yeah, well, actually earlier when I was 587 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: fifteen and another group before u Kis. Yeah, no, like 588 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: because I love music so much, but when I was 589 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: in UKIS, I didn't actually have enough like time and 590 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: also capacity to really find my own voice, because you know, 591 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: in K pop is very like heavily produced by major songwriters. 592 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: You're put in the room with like you know, different collaborators, 593 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: and like, I don't know how K pop is these days. 594 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's more say from the idols themselves, and 595 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: like I know bts and other artists like also contribute 596 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: to the songwriting. But in our days, you know, we 597 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: didn't really have that opportunity. So I really felt like 598 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: this hunger to find my own voice and then to 599 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: kind of like reinvent and like find my own paths. Yeah, 600 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: it really is. I had a little bit of a 601 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: rebellious side to me. I was like, I'm not going 602 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: to follow the norm. I'm going to do my own thing. 603 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: I got in so much trouble, like being in Korea 604 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: and like being from New York, like not having that 605 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: noon Chi. 606 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: They knew what they were signing up for. They were 607 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: starting an American you know training, But no, I feel 608 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: like that's also our strength, you know, I'm sorry you 609 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: had to go through that, and you know, we all 610 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: have our own individual experiences in Korea. But I feel 611 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: the same way too as a Korean American who grew 612 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: up here. But also, you know, I'm used to Korean 613 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: culture because I grew up in a Korean household, but 614 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: it's my first time ever living in Korea when I 615 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: moved there when I was fifteen, so there were different 616 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: cultural nuances that I didn't pick up easily, like you know, 617 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: the humbei hube also like the age hierarchy where you 618 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 2: have to like you have to use a different form. 619 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 3: You would never be able to talk like this. 620 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: No, you'd be constantly. 621 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: I've been here, but for like no, I'm. 622 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: Not means like I'm not like a Korean like like yeah, 623 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: equivalent in English like. 624 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: Like a strict like yeah, man, I. 625 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: Don't even want to say it, but gangs like yeah, yeah, yeah, 626 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: Neil give me someone. 627 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, but yeah, I've had my encounters 628 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: me too. 629 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: But you know, I think you know I now. 630 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 3: Now I feeling nervous. 631 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: American podcast, okay, okay, in Korea, it might have been different. 632 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: Thank you. 633 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 3: I heart radio. No, you can't even do that. 634 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's crazy. 635 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 3: My hands would never leave my knees. 636 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: I hope it's different nowadays. I hope things have changed 637 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: after some time. 638 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 3: How was it for you when you were there. 639 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: So uh in in Korea? When we debuted, like at 640 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: music programs like Music Bang and all those music shows. 641 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: So we have to visit the rooms of our sombiz, 642 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: our elder or our groups who have debuted before us. 643 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 2: That's what that's what we call samba. We have to 644 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: visit their rooms before the show starts, and we have 645 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: to sign our album with each individual name and member, 646 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: and we have to go in and bow with like 647 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 2: you know, the ninety degree angle boo, and then we 648 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: had to be like you kissed me that, like it 649 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: was very like a military style like greeting, if you 650 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: know what I mean, you know, you know right yeah 651 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: yeah so and then also after the show, we had 652 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 2: to wait till the show ends and we have to 653 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: bow down to the producer of the show and show 654 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: our appreciation. Yeah, they're the kings who like you know, 655 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: like you know, shows us to be on the show 656 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: because it's like so many idols and it's like a 657 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: privilege to even be on a show like music cor 658 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: or like Music Bank and kind you know the girl. 659 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: So I don't know. I haven't performed on a music 660 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: show in Korea and years, so I don't know if 661 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: that's still the case. 662 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: Is still the case. 663 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: And when I was going in and we were preparing 664 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: to do all these like promotions and stuff, like I 665 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: had like specific classes, like because they knew that I 666 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: was American coming in, so like you got like training, 667 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: like manner training literally. 668 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: And like I had to. 669 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: Like learn like wish side to put the spoon when 670 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: we're eating and if we're like like ahishy, like we 671 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: have to eat at the pace of the eldest two 672 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: hands while the drinks for. 673 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 3: The drinks and like look away. 674 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 2: You can never look at them. 675 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: The youngest you have to flip the meat and cut 676 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: the everything. 677 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 2: Everything Now that you think about is that's crazy. 678 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 3: Because and like I still made so many mistakes. 679 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: But my company they were super lenient with me because 680 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: they knew I was like from. 681 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 2: New York especially, But you had a little easier because 682 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 2: you have more western features. 683 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you look, you know you have Korean. I'm 684 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: actually full Chinese. 685 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: You're full Chinese. Okay, Okay, wow, yeah, you could pass 686 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: have Korean too, but. 687 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 3: Like they expect a foreigner when they. 688 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 2: Look at Yeah, so they kind of like consider that cute, 689 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 2: like it could slide by, whereas like I look completely Korean, 690 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 2: like I am full Korean. So before I like right now, 691 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 2: like when I see Korean, like I could speak so fluently, 692 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 2: they won't even recognize my like if I'm American or 693 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 2: a couple like okay, Korean American or not. But like 694 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 2: before I like would speak, they thought I was just Korean. 695 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 2: So if I missed more strict yeah, if I missed 696 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: any of those cultural like mannerisms, they would think I 697 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 2: was so like they say, like it's not a job song, 698 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 2: Like who do you say that in English? 699 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: Like like like there's no respect yeah yeah, so so 700 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: disrespectful yeah yeah. 701 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I'm just sorry, and. 702 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 3: It's terrible because you're such a nice guy, I know, and. 703 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: It's just like these little things like you didn't it 704 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: was eighty nine degrees instead of ninety degrees. 705 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, then I but heart Yeah. 706 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: Yo, that's crazy, that's crazy. 707 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. But no, I feel like I fully embraced who 708 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 2: I am at the core, and now I don't have 709 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 2: to like ponder on like which one I am I am? 710 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 2: Like in my Korean I'm Crean American, right, you know, 711 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: I could you know, flip, you know, I could wear 712 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 2: both hats wherever I am in, like which environment I'm in. 713 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: But you know, I really just embraced me being fully 714 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 2: Korean American and now I don't have any like insecurities 715 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 2: about my like my and I. 716 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 3: Feel like a lot of people battle with that. 717 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: A lot of people do and and and that's why 718 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like you're helping so many people doing what 719 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: you're doing, being in front of this huge screen, like 720 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 1: it's so much deeper than you can realize in that moment. 721 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: And then, like I was thinking about your story, like 722 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: I was saying before, like you you left during COVID 723 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 1: and then you started pursuing Hollywood and this huge project 724 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: cave Off Demon Hunters, being a part of the Saja Voice, 725 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: Like how does that feel being like, Oh, my biggest 726 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 1: project now is going back to K pop? 727 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 728 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 3: I mean I've. 729 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: Never really left k pop. Yeah, So I never felt 730 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: like I needed to leave it either. I was always 731 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 2: proud of my roots and like everywhere I went, I 732 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 2: still had that ca pop title to me. Everywhere I go, 733 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 2: even in a room where there were no K pop fans, 734 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: I would introduce myself as a K pop artist. I 735 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,959 Speaker 2: was very proud, you know, so like, you know, it's 736 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 2: just also very fortunate to have a film that is 737 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 2: around K pop and that's just like an icing on 738 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 2: the cake. But yeah, I mean, I don't know when 739 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 2: when I first auditioned for this, I never felt like, 740 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 2: you know, this is gonna be my breakthrough moment. This 741 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 2: is just another project that I felt very passionate. 742 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 3: Boy on a Tuesday. That's crazy. 743 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: But hey, funny story though, and I haven't shared this 744 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 2: anywhere else. iHeartRadio Exclusive. But I actually auditioned for the 745 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 2: voice of gu Yeah, so even before Ian the music 746 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: producer reached out to me to you know, record as 747 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 2: a vocalist for such Boys, I this was like, I 748 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 2: don't even know how long ago, this is like three 749 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 2: four years ago. This is when I first moved to 750 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 2: LA In like twenty two. I had an audition opportunity 751 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 2: for Cabo Demon Hunters, but as a voiceover. So this 752 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: before like they were recording the soundtrack. Wow, So I 753 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 2: was like, and I remember auditioning for Genu. The scene 754 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 2: that I auditioned for was when Roomy and Genu are 755 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 2: on top of the hun you know, and then they 756 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 2: were like when you before free, So their first encounter, 757 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 2: she was like why are you here? Yeah, and like yeah, 758 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 2: he chops his she chops his head off, the first 759 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 2: encounter the pants, the pants. Yeah, that whole scene. I 760 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 2: like remember that whole scene like line by line because 761 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 2: I like memorized it and I had to like do 762 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 2: my audition. But yeah, I feel like that was another 763 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 2: like first step into this because maybe that led to 764 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: another opportunity because maybe that audition they remember my name 765 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 2: and maybe they came back to me with another opportunity. 766 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 2: So you just never know. 767 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: I heard the voice overs were like different from the 768 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: singing voices. 769 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there was the voice over for the for 770 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 2: the acting, and then there were the vocalists for the 771 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: singing voices. But you know, regardless of which, you know, 772 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: opportunity was. I'm glad I was a part of it. 773 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, the internet would have went crazy if you were Genia. 774 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: Have you seen like the trends where they're trying to 775 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: like find the characters in real life and they're like, oh, 776 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: like oh, like Roomy looks like Jenny, like like oh like. 777 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 2: Genos like chaww. 778 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah you could, you could, you could you could 779 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: pass as Geno. 780 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 2: I think I had the same hair. I think I 781 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 2: kind of like that was going to be. Well, we 782 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 2: both I am not. We have made lead energy. 783 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, thank you, thank you for that. 784 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I'm just so incredibly like happy about 785 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: this film reaching newer audiences because this Capo Demon Hunters 786 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 2: is now like the craze amongst kids, like children anywhere 787 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 2: from like three to like ten, Like these kids are 788 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: the ones who are like watching it ten twenty times 789 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 2: a day, And I have friends who are parents of 790 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 2: those kids. Like you don't know, you watch the six 791 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 2: times six times? I watched it five, Oh, I watch 792 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 2: the six two six six is the charm. But it's 793 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 2: just so fascinating because kids who don't know anything about 794 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 2: K pop or like K pop groups are discovering K 795 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: pop and other groups like Huntricks and so Boys in 796 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 2: the real life through this movie. 797 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: And Korean culture and clothing the stuff with the cat yeah, 798 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,959 Speaker 1: and like just so many, so many like symbolism that's 799 00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: just deeply Korean. 800 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 2: Man, imagine if we had this in our days, and 801 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: I don't know you were born in a different generation. 802 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 2: So for me even even less so, like I always 803 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 2: had to hide like the smell of my kimchi pokma 804 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: kimchi fried rice, like like bento box in my in 805 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 2: my backpack because like I was so scared people would 806 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 2: like make fun of me, and like I would never 807 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 2: wear like I don't know anything traditionally Korean, even like 808 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 2: those days were like where your heritage, like your your 809 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 2: cultural traditional where I would never think I'm stupid? 810 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 3: Do you think I'm gonna permit myself a target? 811 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 2: But now after this film, it would be like the 812 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 2: coolest thing. Imagine like Halloween, everyone's gonna be like us boys. 813 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 3: Well I even think about that. 814 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 2: I feel like the the your idle wear, I feel 815 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 2: like that would be a popular. 816 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: Do you think that's like that's like culture Like, No, 817 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: I don't think you think that's culturally insensitive? And no 818 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: started wearing like gods and stuff, I don't think so 819 00:41:59,160 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 1: okay cool. 820 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 2: I don't see any reason why I would be. 821 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 3: Okay, you've heard it here first. 822 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 2: No, like this is a part of the film, it 823 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 2: could also be a part of costplay, right, but also 824 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 2: any anyone who is in Korea could also wear this traditional. 825 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 3: Wear and with like the markings and stuff. 826 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 2: So cool. I mean people wear humbooks all the time 827 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 2: when they come to Korea in front of kale. That's 828 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 2: not cultural appropriation. 829 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:24,959 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay. 830 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: I saw like people on the internet kind of being 831 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: like like like, it's just because it's such a new realm, 832 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, like we've never had mainstream attention like this, 833 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 1: so cultural. 834 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 2: If anything, it's appreciation culture, Yeah, it is appreciation. 835 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just like it was interesting to see that 836 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: kind of discourse because like it's so fresh that we 837 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: didn't know how to navigate it exactly, which I think 838 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: is a privilege. 839 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 840 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 2: And I've just been having so much fun these days, 841 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 2: and like I've been losing sleep to this because i 842 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 2: been due scrolling on TikTok and Instagram reels with all 843 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 2: the costplay and like all the dance challenges, Soda Pop, 844 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,879 Speaker 2: your Idol, Golden, Like, it's incredible to see how far 845 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 2: they can take like the cosplay and make up, like 846 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 2: even the costume and the patterns. And I've seen like 847 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 2: people who do like the the like what is that 848 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,919 Speaker 2: like the glow where it glows in the dark like 849 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 2: the blue light. 850 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the blue light with the markings, with. 851 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 2: The markings, Yeah, like so cool and and like I'm 852 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 2: just like in awe when I see those videos and 853 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 2: I can only imagine like again like Halloween or like 854 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 2: I heard an anime expo there were so many people 855 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 2: who dressed them as roomy and hunter rigs and Haja boys. 856 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 2: Kekon is coming up, so I think there might be 857 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 2: fans of Demon Hunters that will like dress the part you. 858 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 3: Think you'll have like a booth there hopefully. 859 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows, who. 860 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: Knows anything that like you, you want people to know 861 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: more about you because there's Kevin Wu and then there's 862 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: still it's hard to move on and graduate from an 863 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 1: image that you already had. All these projects that you're 864 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: doing like nowadays was something that you wish like people 865 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: could see you as or like no, I just you. 866 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 2: Know, like I said earlier, I fully embody my K 867 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 2: pop experiences as a former idol and you kiss very 868 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 2: very proud, and I'm just going to take that on 869 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 2: to my next journey, which is you know now I'm 870 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 2: you know, doing a lot of things in the arts 871 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 2: with like singing and acting even now animated films and voiceovers. 872 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 2: So like, yeah, I feel like the journey never ends. 873 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 2: And I hope that, you know, I could really bridge 874 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 2: the two cultures, and I hope I could make an 875 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:46,720 Speaker 2: impact and inspire others who want to pursue this even further, 876 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 2: and hope that they could pass on the honors. 877 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you, thank you, thank you. Definite, They're definitely 878 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 3: going to say we look the same. 879 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 2: Age, thank you. It's all the Korean skincare. 880 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, do you have a skin care routine? 881 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Like I've always used Korean skincare even before 882 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 2: moving to Korea, I would use my mom's skincare and 883 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 2: like you know, like you know Asian moms with their 884 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 2: like ten step skincare routine. I learned from an early 885 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 2: age to like wear sunscreen and all that. So maybe yeah, 886 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 2: things for California, thinks mom for like teaching me the 887 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 2: importance of taking care of your skin, and it's not 888 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 2: talked about enough in like like you know, masculinity and 889 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 2: like even in like in again Korea, I feel like 890 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 2: it's more normalized with skincare and even for men. But 891 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 2: I feel like in the US it's still not as normalized. Yeah, 892 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 2: like men should you know, take care of their skin 893 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 2: and it's not like feminine or anything to you know, 894 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 2: wear makeup or uh, you know, take good care of 895 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 2: your skin. That's just like good care of your basic hygiene. 896 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I have some of like my favorite 897 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 2: products are like from Koreas. If you like follow me 898 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 2: on Instagram. I always do like get Ready with Me 899 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 2: videos like nighttime like routine. 900 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 3: How many times a day, Like I would just. 901 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 2: Do like my morning routine and my nighttime routine, and 902 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 2: in the day, I would constantly reapply sunscreen. That's about it. 903 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, all right, so follow your Instagram, yes, and 904 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: and you will have beautiful, amazing screen like heaven. And 905 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 1: if you're going to work in the arts and industry 906 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: and you want to have a long lasting career, sunscreen, suns. 907 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 2: Wow, sunscreen and K pop And that's honestly what makes 908 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 2: me so youthful because I'm such a fan of K 909 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 2: pop too. I I stand so many groups. Uh it's 910 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 2: you would be surprised, how like uh plugged, well plugged, 911 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 2: I am. 912 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for coming on to the podcast. 913 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 1: This was k Actor everything, k pop and I'll see 914 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: you guys next week. 915 00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 2: Thank you. 916 00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 3: Okay, that's a wrap. 917 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 2: Thank you.