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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, welcome back, ronin Amy and the Cardock. I

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Speaker 1: was talking a little bit ago about the suv, the

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Speaker 1: sport utility vehicle. It was an interesting article in the

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Speaker 1: New York Times recently, and it starts off with the

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Speaker 1: question of exactly which automaker created the muscle car or

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Speaker 1: just what company gave birth to the minivan may never

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Speaker 1: be answered satisfactorily. The origins of the sport utility vehicle

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Speaker 1: seemed to be more certain. However, in nineteen fifty three,

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Speaker 1: International Harvester, a manufacturer better known for its farm tractors

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Speaker 1: and commercial trucks, introduced the travel All. Now I have

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Speaker 1: to say I did not know that this is really

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Speaker 1: where the suv began, A truck based passenger wagon. See

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Speaker 1: and I always thought, like everyone else, that it was

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Speaker 1: the Chevrolet Suburban. The article points out true. The Chevrolet

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Speaker 1: Suburban had a similar layout and a name that dates

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Speaker 1: to the nineteen thirties, but the Suburban didn't acquire four

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Speaker 1: wheel drive, a hallmark of the suv category, until nineteen sixty.

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Speaker 1: The travel All was available with four wheel drive by

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty six. Dodge's Town Wagon wasn't offered with four

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Speaker 1: wheel drive until nineteen fifty seven, Willie Kaiser and later

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Speaker 1: American Motors sold civilian versions of the Army Jeep, but

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Speaker 1: these vehicles were hardly the forebearers of the modern soccer mom. Suv.

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Speaker 1: International's head start was little help in the long run.

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Speaker 1: By the time SUVs became must have accessories for suburban families,

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Speaker 1: the company had decided to focus its efforts on commercial

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Speaker 1: vehicles and was long gone from the consumer market. Chevy, Dodge,

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Speaker 1: and Jeep still sell utility vehicles and have earned tidy

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Speaker 1: profits from the category that International defined. Kind of neat that,

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Speaker 1: you know, Gie, I guess it's almost fifty years ago

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Speaker 1: that the suv category was started by International, and I

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Speaker 1: can say that there was a one of my first

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Speaker 1: customers had a nineteen seventy five International Travel All this

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Speaker 1: big boxy look like a sort of a crust between

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Speaker 1: an early Ford Bronco or a later model Ford Bronco

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Speaker 1: and an early Chevrolet Blazer. But a big boxy vehicle,

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Speaker 1: and from time to time I'd have to go to

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Speaker 1: an International dealer to get parts for it. And you know,

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Speaker 1: interesting scenario because when you go to an international dealer,

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Speaker 1: and this was the late seventies, early eighties when I

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Speaker 1: just started the business that I would go to the

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Speaker 1: international dealer for parts, and it was like a step

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Speaker 1: back in time because you would see reflectors and bumpers

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Speaker 1: board in front of the parts counter, saying do you

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Speaker 1: need one of these? One of these, one of these,

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Speaker 1: and it would say fits travel all nineteen fifty five

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Speaker 1: to nineteen seventy two. It didn't change model years all

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Speaker 1: Kind of an interesting product line. We'll continue in a bit.

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Speaker 1: Let's get over to the phones. Let's go over and

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Speaker 1: talk to K down there in Tennessee with a two

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Speaker 1: thousand Chevy S ten. Yes kay, how can I help you?

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I was having along Expressway Friday afternoon at

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Speaker 2: and it started running hot. And it's still the LA

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Speaker 1: So the vehicle is dead.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: When you said, well, when you say it was running hot,

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Speaker 1: care you saying that before it shut off, the gauge

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Speaker 1: went up to the hot side.

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Speaker 2: No, it started, it started losing power, and then the

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Speaker 2: check engine light came on. By the time I pulled

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Speaker 2: running hot. It indicated hot and a steam of course

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Speaker 2: started coming up from the motor area there. And when

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so you had a physical overheat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the condition of it now at this point is

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Speaker 2: Does it go cr Yeah, it'll crank, but it still

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Speaker 2: won't start. And you know, I've got one hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty seven thousand miles on it. Now. You know, I've

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Speaker 1: What engine is in this as ten?

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Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, it's possible there's a there's a timing

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Speaker 1: through and diagnosis. The concern here becomes that, you know,

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Speaker 1: it to lose power? Which came first? The chicken or

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Speaker 4: Right right?

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Speaker 1: So you know the issues here are right now. You know,

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Speaker 1: when the mechanic checks it out, you want to explain

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Speaker 1: it to him, just the way you explained it to me.

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Speaker 1: If I were there looking at it, I'd want to know,

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Speaker 1: you know, what's mechanical compression of the motor, does it

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Speaker 1: crank normal? What code is in there, because there's going

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Speaker 1: that check engine light on? Or did the check engine

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Speaker 1: Did it die at that point? Was that the moment

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Speaker 1: with you doing sixty five on the on the freeway

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Speaker 1: on the throughway there? You know, did the check engine

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Speaker 1: like come on? Was the engine still running? Or did

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Speaker 1: the check engine light come on at the moment that

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Speaker 1: the engine died and you coast it to the side

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Speaker 1: of the road. So you know, we want to be

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Speaker 1: looking at is there any water or coolant in the oil?

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Speaker 1: Did something overheat and fail did the actual failure cause

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Speaker 1: the engine to overheat. That's why I say it's a

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Speaker 1: tough call on radios, but he's got to be a

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Speaker 1: step by step. Your best bet, go buy an hour

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Speaker 1: go through and diagnose it before we start throwing parts

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, you have a good rest of

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Speaker 1: to Terry up there in Wisconsin with an seven Ford fusion.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Terry, Yeah, my wife's seven Ford fusion.

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Speaker 5: The check engine light came on, wrench came on, and

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Speaker 5: the vehicle down shifted to a lower gear. Okay, And

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Speaker 5: she drove for eleven miles that way. And then when

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Speaker 5: they picked it up, they said of sensor went out

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Speaker 5: of it, which was the idle sensor. But I'm wondering

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Speaker 5: either the transmission or the motor. And should I take

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Speaker 5: the extended warranty package.

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Speaker 1: Vehicle operating normally now?

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Speaker 5: Picked up yesterday, it seems to be running fine. The

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Speaker 5: other thing that we noticed was the mileage was reducing

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Speaker 5: prior to this going out. Other words, our average miles

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Speaker 5: down was reducing. How much it went from like thirty

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Speaker 1: Twenty is pretty extreme. And you know, and I've got

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Speaker 1: to say it like this, if that's a legit number,

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Speaker 1: you know, I have seen and everybody, it seems lately,

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Speaker 1: is complaining about fuel economy as a regular conversation at

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Speaker 1: the counter. But I'll see anywhere from a ten to

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Speaker 1: twelve percent drop. And I've attributed across the board because

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Speaker 1: it's a variety of vehicles just in the different blends

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Speaker 1: of fuel. But if you're telling me thirty to twenty,

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Speaker 1: that's a thirty percent drop. That seems extreme.

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Speaker 5: And I took it up yesterday. It's back up to

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Speaker 5: thirty again now, so it's a change of sensor out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know, is it? How long had it been

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 5: I noticed it. I don't drive it that often, so

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Speaker 5: when I got into it, I noticed that a few miles,

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Speaker 5: like I said, twenty miles per average for down, which

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Speaker 5: I thought it was a drop, and then it started

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're judging it off, You're judging it off the

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Speaker 1: calculation on the on the computer inside the car. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't don't trust it that way, all right. That's you know,

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Speaker 1: because that's computer, that's computer decided, and the computer's taking

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Speaker 1: it taking its input from sensors. I mean, that's sort

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Speaker 1: of a creature comfort Terry. I would tell you, if

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Speaker 1: you want to calculate fuel economy, let's do it by actually,

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Speaker 1: you know, driving two hundred miles, filling it up, driving

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Speaker 1: another two hundred miles. Do the math. You know. That's

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's an okay, you know, it makes

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Speaker 1: I want to know real fuel economy, you know, I

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Speaker 1: As far as you know what actually failed on the vehicle.

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Speaker 1: First of all, let me go backwards. Did you hurt

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Speaker 1: the engine and transmission? Probably not, because everything with the

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Speaker 1: intervention of computers today. If the vehicle is operating properly,

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Speaker 1: and as you indicated, the fuel economy seems to have

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Speaker 1: it manually. Chances are no, should you take the extended warranty?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'm not a fan of extended warranties.

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Speaker 1: I think extended warranties come down to dollars and cents,

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Speaker 1: point or another. If the extended warranty policy is fifteen

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Speaker 1: sixteen hundred dollars, how much is the extended warranty policy?

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Speaker 5: I don't know that yet, all right.

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Speaker 1: You know, if the extended warranty policy was five hundred

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Speaker 1: in two years, it's worth it. If it's another fifteen

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Speaker 1: hundred to two grand, you're going to have to have

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Speaker 1: usually by the time somebody's transmission blows up, they're so

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Speaker 1: frustrated with the car. By the second time i'm something break,

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Speaker 1: they want to get rid of it. So it doesn't

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Speaker 1: pay to have the policy in the first place, all right.

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Speaker 1: Regardless of manufacturer, regardless of public perception, I still think

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Speaker 1: extended warranties are a gamble at best for you. If

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Speaker 1: you're going to get your money back. I still think

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Speaker 1: proper care and maintenance, oil changes and services are still

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Speaker 1: the longest possible time, and that yes, cars are going

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Speaker 1: to break. There are going to be problems because of

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Speaker 1: the nature of the beast. No, don't buy an extended warranty.

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Speaker 1: That's my recommendation. I'm running any in the car doctor.

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Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Hey, welcome back, run Anni

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Speaker 1: in the car doctor here, let's get over and talk

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Speaker 1: to Ed in Virginia nineteen ninety eight BMW one, Yes, Ed,

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Speaker 1: how can I help you? In your seven forty al?

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Speaker 3: How you doing Ron? The problem I'm having with it

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Speaker 3: is after it gets up to temperature, which is hit

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Speaker 3: BMW works. I'm sure you know. You just turn the

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Speaker 3: over correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a very weird sensation too if you're not

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Speaker 1: used to it. It's sort of like, huh, you just

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Speaker 1: turn it gets to the right position and then everything

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Speaker 1: is it does it by itself.

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Speaker 3: Well, after it gets up to temperature. I don't care

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Speaker 3: It's almost like it's almost like the gas tank is

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Speaker 1: Well is it? But is it that you turn the

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Speaker 3: Now, this is this is what's really weird about it.

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Speaker 3: It'll crank, it'll start, it'll idle for a couple second

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Speaker 1: Okay, And then what do you do to restart it?

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Speaker 3: I just recrank it. Sometimes it takes one time, sometimes

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Speaker 1: Okay, what's common with these?

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Speaker 3: Ed?

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Speaker 1: All?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: In no particular order, And I'm sure you're gonna tell me.

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Speaker 1: A mechanic checked it out.

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Speaker 3: The mechanic checked it out, and he couldn't make it happen,

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Speaker 1: Right, And if you can't make it happen on one

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Speaker 1: it's it's a nightmare. So you know, first of all,

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Speaker 1: I just say that it's important because they're they're they're different,

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Speaker 1: they think different, these these cars. In that sense of

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Speaker 1: just like you're describing where it's an intermittent it'll crank,

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Speaker 3: I haven't recently, But when I first purchased the vehicle,

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Speaker 3: about three weeks after I purchased it, it actually shut

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Speaker 1: And you never found the cause of that problem. No

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Speaker 1: how long have you had.

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Speaker 3: The car, about six months?

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Speaker 1: Okay. Crank sensors are common at which the best way is.

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Speaker 1: the quality of it all right, Crank sensors are common.

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Speaker 1: Fuel pump relays are known to overheat on these vehicles.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, if he pulls the fuel

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Speaker 1: they located the underhood instrument cluster box? I believe over

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Speaker 1: If they're not there, they're going to be over on

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Speaker 1: sometimes I do. If you know what I'm saying, But relays,

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Speaker 1: if the ends of the relays are blue and discolored,

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Speaker 1: I do see quite a few ignition switches on those

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Speaker 1: into the feed that activates the PCM. You know, when

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Speaker 1: that sort of starts at all, which, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 1: Get a look at that, and if you can monitor that,

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Speaker 1: you may find that you have a bad ignition switch

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Speaker 1: I hear the train of coming.

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Speaker 6: It's you're all and around me, and then I ain't

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Speaker 6: seen the sunshine. I don't all the when I'm a

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Speaker 6: duck and pulls some prison time.

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Speaker 1: Hey, real quick, we'll brought on any of the car. Doctor.

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Speaker 1: We're back. Let's go over and talk to Jeff from

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin nineteen ninety two Mitsubishi Diamante. Yes, Jeff, quickly, I've

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Speaker 1: got a minute.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I got this nineteen. By the way, I really

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Speaker 4: enjoy your show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: It is it'll start going to like limbo to run

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Speaker 4: per thing also and it'll start limping and real quick history,

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Speaker 4: every tree place, the bean relate and main relay to

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Speaker 4: the e CM, the fuel of injection rail and the injectors.

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Speaker 4: The top that center sensor or crank sense, whatever you

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Speaker 4: want to call it.

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Speaker 1: When you say it, when you say it goes in

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Speaker 1: limp mode, Jeff, you're talking the transmission the way the

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Speaker 4: I'm moral, I guess like that for lack of a

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Speaker 4: better way of tint. That's what one of the mechanics said.

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Speaker 4: But it'll it'll start, it'll start cutting out like it's

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Speaker 4: firing on four the six cylinders, like one of the

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Speaker 4: coil packs, like either an injectors aren't working or the

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Speaker 4: coil packs aren't firing. And you know it's got me

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Speaker 4: at the loss. That's why we went with the top

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Speaker 4: dead center sensor or crank sensor, whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: But you're not getting any codes out of it.

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Speaker 4: No code short service engine or check engine when it happens,

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Speaker 4: but nothing else.

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Speaker 1: All right, try this. There's got to be a code

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Speaker 1: there because if the service engine light's coming on, don't

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Speaker 1: cycle the key the next time it happens. Try recording

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Speaker 1: the codes and then call me back. But there's something

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Speaker 1: there in the way of a code. I'm running any

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Speaker 1: in the car, Doctor, Unfortunately, the clock is going to

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Speaker 1: grab me till the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 1: they're priceless.

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Speaker 4: See you