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Speaker 1: Creative Gold. The eyes of her flashback flash very very
Speaker 1: far in the way back machine. Now. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're aware of this, but we have been doing
Speaker 1: this show for a good three years. It's our anniversary,
Speaker 1: isn't it? Didn't we? I think it is like this time.
Speaker 1: I don't have the anniversary partner, thank you. I don't
Speaker 1: keep track of it. I don't know why I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't keep track of it because this show has
Speaker 1: such like a cool vibe to it. I don't It
Speaker 1: doesn't ever need like an anniversary show just to get
Speaker 1: people to do. We have a cool vibe every week
Speaker 1: and this goes back. Well, we have a great relationship
Speaker 1: as a team, so it's great chemistry we are going
Speaker 1: back to. We recorded this on October thirteenth, two thoy
Speaker 1: and nineteen. Okay, okay, it was episode five. Okay. It
Speaker 1: featured the first time we had Shelley joining us Shell,
Speaker 1: but it was it was a different appearance because it
Speaker 1: was her first. But this is episode five, so we're
Speaker 1: still a little green as a team. Okay. It's just
Speaker 1: great because it's the first time you guys are connecting
Speaker 1: on the camera and it's it was very cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I miss Shelley too. I haven't seen her in such
Speaker 1: a long I mean we still talk obviously, but I
Speaker 1: just haven't seen her in such a long time. And
Speaker 1: I was thinking, oh, maybe if I do Wrestle Con
Speaker 1: next year out there, I'll get to see her. Hopefully
Speaker 1: I will. But she's you know, she's still very active
Speaker 1: on even though she's not making appearances, she's still very
Speaker 1: active online and her content is excellent. So I believe
Speaker 1: her website is Shelley Martinez dot net or dot com
Speaker 1: something like that. You could just go to her Twitter
Speaker 1: and uh, all the informations up there. But she's been
Speaker 1: a friend of mine for years. And I've said it
Speaker 1: before and I'll say it again. One of the only
Speaker 1: good things that came out of the fake is her
Speaker 1: and Ice friendship because I knew her before then, but
Speaker 1: we weren't close until she became my room meee on
Speaker 1: the road. So I love her. She's very funny, and
Speaker 1: I think that the kind of you know, the funny
Speaker 1: thing is I became good friends with Kevin Ferdig, who
Speaker 1: was with her in that fake ECW. So it's like
Speaker 1: I got to know about her through Kevin and then
Speaker 1: I got to know of her for you, So for
Speaker 1: her then to you know, have minimal contact with me.
Speaker 1: I just think it's funny because I had this intersection
Speaker 1: of her people she was connected to, and it's just
Speaker 1: that's the crazy thing about the wrestling communities. You don't
Speaker 1: know which way. Yeah, you don't know which way it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen, but it's all gonna come back to to
Speaker 1: one point. So yeah, very cool. Okay, Well, where can
Speaker 1: people find you listen to this beautiful interview? Yes, at
Speaker 1: Chad E and B on Twitter, at IB Exclusives on Instagram. Uh,
Speaker 1: please follow Franccene's YouTube page. It's YouTube dot com, slash
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Speaker 1: on YouTube. Thank you for the plug, by the way,
Speaker 1: and across the born on social media, you can find
Speaker 1: me at e c W Diva Francine. But for now,
Speaker 1: enjoy the show. This. This is a girl that I adore.
Speaker 1: I love her. She has become one of my best friends,
Speaker 1: very very talented and and has a beautiful Heart as well.
Speaker 1: You might remember her as Ariel in the Fake e
Speaker 1: Seed of Uh. But let's let's welcome with Shelley Martinez
Speaker 1: to the podcast. Hello, Hello baby, you're no picture. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, you just pop me huge with Budge. You
Speaker 1: know what? Then mission accomplished because I started when it
Speaker 1: asked me to put my name in there. I started
Speaker 1: to put I put Shelley, and I said no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no delete. You don't have to tell the story now
Speaker 1: because nobody's gonna understand why your name is badge. Okay,
Speaker 1: well doesn't know. I'm just everybody knows. At the bottom
Speaker 1: of our screen. If you don't see it on the audio,
Speaker 1: it's audio. Everybody's get their name on the bottom. So
Speaker 1: I got Chad, Francinas Francine, and Shelley has badges. So
Speaker 1: Shelley love it. I really wish I committed though too.
Speaker 1: I was gonna put Morning Badge. But I love it.
Speaker 1: When Francine and I were working together back in the
Speaker 1: day in the sagy c W we used to just
Speaker 1: we love love Jillian Hall. But Jillian is this is
Speaker 1: not talking crap. She'll admit it like she's a little
Speaker 1: presty a little stuck upy about certain things, you know,
Speaker 1: like and when I say that, I say that because
Speaker 1: I'm a very rough around the edge, just kind of goal.
Speaker 1: I'm very rate. So me and Francine would be like, hi,
Speaker 1: badge face, and we'd say how my badge, and we'd
Speaker 1: say all this a badge badge, and she'd get so angry.
Speaker 1: She would just be like, why do you have to
Speaker 1: say that word? And she'd get so upset, and you know,
Speaker 1: we would just badge face. And then I remember, I
Speaker 1: hope it's okay to say this, franccene. But one time
Speaker 1: I was seeing this fella and I didn't know if
Speaker 1: I was gonna see him that night. And Francine said,
Speaker 1: you know what, Shelley, you always wash your badge. You
Speaker 1: never know, And I said, exactly, So the badge has
Speaker 1: many definitions to me, if you will. And when I
Speaker 1: had that awesome, awesome uh oh, it says hold on,
Speaker 1: hold now you keep going, Yeah, she froze up, so
Speaker 1: hold let me let me reboot this. Let me just
Speaker 1: make sure she's all good. Hold on one second. So
Speaker 1: I was saying that Francine and I love Jillian Hall,
Speaker 1: but she is a little prissy about certain things. And
Speaker 1: you know, Francine and I are just those galos that
Speaker 1: we're going to say what we want. So we would
Speaker 1: really get under her skin because we would say hi,
Speaker 1: badge face or oh, badge this, and she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I do you have to say that word? And she
Speaker 1: gets so literally upset with us, and we just loved
Speaker 1: it so so much. And then back when Francine and
Speaker 1: I were in the road together, I was in my
Speaker 1: mind dating a guy, but in his mind I wasn't,
Speaker 1: so I didn't know if doesn't see him that day,
Speaker 1: and Francine goes, remember Shell, always wash your badge because
Speaker 1: you never know. So THEA has many different definitions and
Speaker 1: the bad advice and it really is and the best
Speaker 1: part of all of those two stories, and how the
Speaker 1: badge is so dear to me. When I had that
Speaker 1: awesome match with Rebel on TNA and I was, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, she was like splitting my legs, and so
Speaker 1: of course you got to sell the badge, and so
Speaker 1: I thought, oh my gosh, I feel that Gillian and
Speaker 1: Francine will see this match, and in that moment, I
Speaker 1: had a choice, and so I started yelling my badge.
Speaker 1: So when people are like, it's become iconic, Like people
Speaker 1: will just tweet me my bage, my badge. I'm like,
Speaker 1: my bade. I watched that match and I can't even
Speaker 1: tell you how huge I popped when I heard her
Speaker 1: scream my badge, because the whole arena is just like
Speaker 1: you could tell. They're like, did I just hear badge?
Speaker 1: Like why is she screaming my bag? Didn't I do
Speaker 1: exactly why she did it? So people, I feel, yes,
Speaker 1: I feel blessed that I was included in that moment
Speaker 1: that she thought about me during work, So I I
Speaker 1: love it. I love it. There's the thing, Chad, A
Speaker 1: lot of people don't realize about me because I'm a
Speaker 1: girl with like big boobs and I like to fix
Speaker 1: myself up. Oops. They think that like, uh, I get
Speaker 1: my kicks or getting attention, but like being all hot
Speaker 1: and sexy. No, I just like do that. I get
Speaker 1: my kicks and making people laugh, specifically my friends. So
Speaker 1: that's why I took that opportunity on being on a
Speaker 1: pay per view and without hesitation and commitment, yell my badge,
Speaker 1: my badge, oh my god, my vadge, and I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if they picked it up. But I
Speaker 1: also said, I think I've made myself. They might have.
Speaker 1: They might have, but I was so taken aback by
Speaker 1: Badge being screened out into the arena that I was
Speaker 1: just I was like, I love this girl. This is
Speaker 1: the best thing I've ever heard in a long time.
Speaker 1: And it's just hilarious and it's it's Shelley, It's pure Shelley. Well,
Speaker 1: that kind of like goes back to like why I
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to do wrestling to begin with, because
Speaker 1: I would hear these fun stories of like people being
Speaker 1: like all buddy buddy, and like they trained together or
Speaker 1: maybe they were on the road together. And then I
Speaker 1: as I was going up in wrestling, I would watch
Speaker 1: those people because they were, you know, older than me.
Speaker 1: I would watch them play these little jokes on each other,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's what I want to be, Like,
Speaker 1: I get it, Like it makes it so much more
Speaker 1: fun when like, because what people don't realize is the
Speaker 1: show is such a tiny part of like wrestling. It's
Speaker 1: like so much like preparation and getting there and all this.
Speaker 1: So for me, I found it very attractive that these
Speaker 1: dudes were giving legitimate hard times or practical practical jokes
Speaker 1: on their buddies. I don't like it when it's like
Speaker 1: you don't know the person and you're just doing it
Speaker 1: to like be funny. But when you know the person
Speaker 1: and you know it's all in good nature. I fell
Speaker 1: in love with that idea. So when I carried on
Speaker 1: into wrestling, I was like, that's who I'm going to be,
Speaker 1: damn it. And my badge and I are very proud
Speaker 1: of that moment and that yeah, yes, absolutely, And it
Speaker 1: was never like a malicious thing. It was never hurtful.
Speaker 1: It was always in good fun I've said this a
Speaker 1: million times, Like the fakey Se Dub, the only good
Speaker 1: thing that came out of it was our friendship because
Speaker 1: we knew each other before a little bit from w W,
Speaker 1: which was another classic of BED that we worked for,
Speaker 1: and I loved it there. That place was great, and
Speaker 1: Shelley and I knew each other, but we didn't hang
Speaker 1: out too much. And then we go over to faky
Speaker 1: c Dub and we're on the same brand, and we
Speaker 1: now we call each other roomy because we started rooming together.
Speaker 1: I was miserable there and I didn't and you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't comfortable. I didn't like it there, and like
Speaker 1: you and me together made it tolerable for me because
Speaker 1: it wasn't fun. It just it just wasn't fun for me,
Speaker 1: Like I guess when I was saying earlier, like I
Speaker 1: knew that, like you said that before, I was the
Speaker 1: best thing. But to see your face right now, like
Speaker 1: I feel like you're in that moment, I'm realizing how
Speaker 1: unhappy you really were, like I knew you were, but
Speaker 1: like I was making it, trying to make it fun
Speaker 1: for us. So I guess to me at like I
Speaker 1: remember those times more than like you weren't happy, and
Speaker 1: now I'm bringing back to that, And it's so cool
Speaker 1: because to hear from you that when you're going through
Speaker 1: that time, that I was able to make it fun
Speaker 1: for you. Like towards the end of my wrestling career,
Speaker 1: that's all I cared about, Like I didn't care anymore.
Speaker 1: I just saw girls feeling broken down and beaten, especially
Speaker 1: because they hadn't gotten to WWE kind of what we're
Speaker 1: talking about, Chad, and they were just miserable. So I
Speaker 1: would my mission would just to be have a fun
Speaker 1: match and make that locker room fun if that means
Speaker 1: I'd come in with Sam Champagne that I snuck in
Speaker 1: so be it, like you know, different little things like that.
Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, girls started telling me, oh
Speaker 1: my god, like I haven't had that much fun and
Speaker 1: how long? And like that meant so much to me.
Speaker 1: Like when people were like, oh, you know, she's just
Speaker 1: bitter because she no, That's what means the world to me,
Speaker 1: about more than anything. So to hear that what I
Speaker 1: did that for you and I didn't have in my
Speaker 1: head that that's what my role is to like bring
Speaker 1: yea to these girls. It's cool that I brought into you, Franny,
Speaker 1: because we had the good times we did and I
Speaker 1: was just so restricted there, and you know, you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't let me do anything that I was capable
Speaker 1: of doing. So it was time after time these stupid
Speaker 1: bikini things. And then you know, when you and I
Speaker 1: had our little program, I was like, so cool, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get to do what I can do. And then
Speaker 1: Balls goes and gets a drug test and they find
Speaker 1: drugs and then they're like, well do you have your bikini?
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, holy shit, there's nothing else you
Speaker 1: can think of, Like this is all creative can think of.
Speaker 1: You know, I was like, they didn't even care, they
Speaker 1: didn't even try, and it was so ridiculous. So my
Speaker 1: only other, you know, the thing that I could do
Speaker 1: while being on the road was to try and have
Speaker 1: a good time when we were away from the arena,
Speaker 1: and that's what we tried to do. So yeah, that
Speaker 1: was really because it was a miserable time for me,
Speaker 1: you know, and I always said, I'm grateful for the opportunity.
Speaker 1: I got to make some money, but I got a
Speaker 1: really good friendship out of the deal, so it was
Speaker 1: worth it when you think about it, you know, oh,
Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. When you know, when I was in a
Speaker 1: bad mood about everything and I was very hurt, something
Speaker 1: that started to pull me out of that mindset was
Speaker 1: you know my dog, Ethel, my little girl. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: got her in Kentucky when I was under contract because
Speaker 1: I had my boyfriend and he's from California. I took
Speaker 1: him with me to Kentucky and I felt like he
Speaker 1: needs a wife because I'm at training all day, you know,
Speaker 1: like he needs a wife. So I got Ethel, And
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, I literally would have never had Ethel,
Speaker 1: my baby, my little girl, had I not gotten signed
Speaker 1: and so when I started to like that was the
Speaker 1: first turnaround, and then I was like okay, and then
Speaker 1: my second turnaround was us and how we made it fun,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, that was good, and like
Speaker 1: I started to like slowly weed out the crap. Yeah
Speaker 1: what I got from it. And then that's when I
Speaker 1: was just like oh, and that's when I went back
Speaker 1: to the Indies. And I had so much fun at
Speaker 1: first because I was like, I thought, freed from the negativity,
Speaker 1: I've refocused on what was important. I brought that energy
Speaker 1: to the Indies. And then when people started screwing me
Speaker 1: over in the Indies, it just like triggered it all.
Speaker 1: And that's I was like, as this people, I'm done,
Speaker 1: I'm out of here, Like what are you Like? I
Speaker 1: thought that was just like WWE what No, yeah, nerds.
Speaker 1: For people who might not know your history, let's go
Speaker 1: back before OBW, Like how did you get started in wrestling? Okay,
Speaker 1: So I know this sounds really generic maybe, but I
Speaker 1: just knew I was supposed to be in wrestling. I
Speaker 1: just knew it when I was little. I watch it.
Speaker 1: I specifically watched it like when Cindy Lauper was involved
Speaker 1: and then I would fall out a lot because I
Speaker 1: just saw a lot of different things going on. I
Speaker 1: was a pageant girl, boys, you know, different things to
Speaker 1: take me away in it. But I always came back
Speaker 1: to watching wrestling and when I would watch the performers.
Speaker 1: Someone that stands out to me so much at that
Speaker 1: era was gold Dust. My sister and I after church,
Speaker 1: we would watch wrestling and we watch gold Dust and
Speaker 1: I would just be like wow, like like that's so
Speaker 1: theatrical and cool. Yeah, And I just knew, like in
Speaker 1: my soul, like that was my destiny. And I didn't
Speaker 1: really like talk about it. M I just feel like
Speaker 1: when people would ask, I'm like, yeah, I'm maybe a wrestler.
Speaker 1: I was very like whatever about it because I just
Speaker 1: knew that was my path. I didn't know how to
Speaker 1: do it though, because I'm from California, so there's not
Speaker 1: especially back in the day. There wasn't many promotions or
Speaker 1: schools or whatever. Everything was like Midwest or East Coast,
Speaker 1: so I had no clue. And this is before the
Speaker 1: internet is what it is today, So I didn't think
Speaker 1: to be like wrestling schools. I didn't know wrestling schools existed.
Speaker 1: I just you know, it was like, what how do
Speaker 1: I do this? So what I would do is I
Speaker 1: would when I would go to gigs because I started
Speaker 1: doing modeling and acting after high school, I would just
Speaker 1: talk about how I was going to be this wrestler,
Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, someone's going to remember that
Speaker 1: and maybe it'll like get me in the right direction.
Speaker 1: So eventually a casting director put me in this independent
Speaker 1: film called Backyard Dogs, and I played a wrestler's girlfriend
Speaker 1: and they use local wrestlers and so during like the
Speaker 1: lunch breaks and stuff, little breaks, I would sit there
Speaker 1: and I'm like, so, how do I do this? Like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be a wrestler, So what do I do?
Speaker 1: And They're like, well, you got to go to wrestling school.
Speaker 1: You train, then you get matches, and then you put
Speaker 1: a tape together and then you send it out. I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, done. So I started going to
Speaker 1: wrestling school, I started to trade, I had matches, I
Speaker 1: put this apes out, and then I just went from there.
Speaker 1: I had some really interesting moments in that journey though,
Speaker 1: because like the first wrestling school I left. The reason
Speaker 1: why I left is because the owner groped me when
Speaker 1: he was supposed to be helping me with the injury.
Speaker 1: You know. The wrestling school after that I went to
Speaker 1: was a lucha school shot out WPW. That was one
Speaker 1: of the best times I had in wrestling. It was
Speaker 1: that's when I had that romance again of the wrestling
Speaker 1: business because it would just be me and Fred and
Speaker 1: a bunch of boys in a van and we would
Speaker 1: like drive and we would go to Texas and Mexico
Speaker 1: and like that's what I was like, this is what
Speaker 1: it's about like And so I did that for like
Speaker 1: two years, and then I started to get looked at.
Speaker 1: And then I used to be friends with that guy
Speaker 1: Jesse James that built motorcycles and stuff. And when he
Speaker 1: was hanging out with him and he was like, why
Speaker 1: aren't you in WWS, I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm doing what I'm supposed to. And so
Speaker 1: then the next day I got a call and it
Speaker 1: was from, Oh, I forget Kevin. So, no, is that
Speaker 1: Kevin right? I don't know, done Kevin done? It wasn't
Speaker 1: Kevin done. It was somebody else, somebody And then that's
Speaker 1: a wrestler guy. There's another, well, there's another Kevin Sullivan.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if he's like a publication guy.
Speaker 1: There's another Kevin Sullivan, so okay, it could have been
Speaker 1: the other one, the other guy who from that guy
Speaker 1: I grewed from some dude. And then the next thing
Speaker 1: I know, Johnny Ace is on the phone with me.
Speaker 1: And it was interesting because I had a falling out
Speaker 1: with a wrestling company at the time, and they kind
Speaker 1: of made it seem like if I wasn't with them,
Speaker 1: I would never get a shot in WWE. And the
Speaker 1: reason why they I had a falling out with them
Speaker 1: is because when I had the first falling out with
Speaker 1: the first school, I tried to go to this other
Speaker 1: school and they were like, yes, we want you, we
Speaker 1: see potential, but you can't wrestle for anyone else. And
Speaker 1: I said, but I've been taught. Shout out Ricky Rays
Speaker 1: and Rocky Romero, my first trainers. They taught me. Well,
Speaker 1: I was taught that the way you learn is you
Speaker 1: go to different territories and wrestle people. You get uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: you get scared, That's how you learn. And so I
Speaker 1: was like, how am I going to learn if I'm
Speaker 1: wrestling the same people over and over again. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna get comfortable with them and then like that's it,
Speaker 1: and so they didn't like that I had that to say.
Speaker 1: So that was that. And then it's funny because when
Speaker 1: Johnny As called me, he goes, I have one question
Speaker 1: for you before we move on, and se yeah, he goes,
Speaker 1: are you affiliated with and he said the guy's name
Speaker 1: and I said no. He goes, good, we can have
Speaker 1: this conversation. I was scared because I thought he's gonna
Speaker 1: be like, oh, okay, never mind if you're not one
Speaker 1: of his girls and we can't talk. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. So then I got looked at for a while,
Speaker 1: got hired, and oh ps. In between that, that's when
Speaker 1: Franny and I met a girl. W w e W.
Speaker 1: I had fun there too. That was the bat Girls.
Speaker 1: The only thing is is I had a falling out
Speaker 1: with one of those guys that was in charge too.
Speaker 1: And when I got when I was starting to get
Speaker 1: looked at, I remember he called me and he like
Speaker 1: threatened me. He's like, you know, I can I can
Speaker 1: ruin your chances and so long Yeah, it was so
Speaker 1: long ago, and I was so young, and it kind
Speaker 1: of like scared me because I thought like here, I
Speaker 1: am doing all the right things, you know, So to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, it kind of traumatized me. So
Speaker 1: there's a good chunk of it that damn guy, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. Wow. Yeah, Like he
Speaker 1: really And I don't know if it was one of
Speaker 1: those things, like, because all I can remember is I
Speaker 1: had a lot of fun. And then the last show,
Speaker 1: Oh I did for them, I thought I was gonna
Speaker 1: get paid a certain amount for like, but it was
Speaker 1: like the whole show was the amount I thought that
Speaker 1: was per match because we did Yeah, because we did
Speaker 1: like two shows in one night for two different tapings. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because here, here's the thing about w e W. It
Speaker 1: was a it was a wrestling company, but they did porn. Uh.
Speaker 1: They brought in porn stars and they would put porn
Speaker 1: in the middle of the wrestling pay per views because
Speaker 1: that's the only way the pay per view company was
Speaker 1: interested in using our product. So you had the wrestlers
Speaker 1: on one side and then you had the porn girls
Speaker 1: on the other side. So no, but what's great about
Speaker 1: it It was like wrestling and a literal match is
Speaker 1: happening and it has not ended yet. And then porn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then a little bit of porn ridiculous, Like if
Speaker 1: you're a guy and you're jacking off to the porn
Speaker 1: and you're not ready yet goes back to wrestling. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I wasn't done. It was the most idiotic concept ever.
Speaker 1: But it was the only way we can get our
Speaker 1: pay per views, so that that's what it was. But
Speaker 1: I didn't know that happened to you. Uh we would record, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we would record like two separate pay per views in
Speaker 1: one night. And I guess some of the girls it
Speaker 1: didn't register, like you have to tell them I want
Speaker 1: X amount of money because I'm working twice. They just
Speaker 1: assumed I'm working twice, I'll get my double pay. No, absolutely, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: And that I learned. I learned that and what had happened.
Speaker 1: And this is the only thing I could think of.
Speaker 1: And if Dan hears this and he wants to hit
Speaker 1: me up and like refresh my memory, I remember I
Speaker 1: was like upset about it, and then I was being
Speaker 1: vocal about it, not like to be ugly or nasty,
Speaker 1: but I was just like I thought, wait, am I crazy?
Speaker 1: It was more like wait a second, wait, what's going on?
Speaker 1: And it wasn't like I was like trashing them. It
Speaker 1: was like I was talking to the girl, wait, is
Speaker 1: this right, like blah blah blah blah blah. And then
Speaker 1: of course the girls were like yeah, the ones i'd
Speaker 1: been there and then kind of cued me in, and
Speaker 1: the newer girls like me that had no didn't know
Speaker 1: any better. They were getting upset because they didn't realize
Speaker 1: it either. So that's the only thing I could think
Speaker 1: of of where he got like mad, or like where
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, I could ruin your chances because
Speaker 1: he thought I was like bashing them or something. And
Speaker 1: then maybe I did, and I just don't remember. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but that's what put the bad taste of mouth.
Speaker 1: But I still love Steven DeAngelis. I still ca him.
Speaker 1: I love Stephen DeAngelis. Oh my gods, you did. I
Speaker 1: just did a show with him a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's still uh, he's still hanging in there. So I
Speaker 1: I love him. So I got him out of that.
Speaker 1: And what was cool too is a lot of girls
Speaker 1: who ended up becoming names and wrestling. They we were
Speaker 1: all like there together, Yes, Jeeves ode by gorgeous George,
Speaker 1: even though she had done her thinger she was there too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody Angelina love Yeah, and ro'neil everybody everyone knows and loves.
Speaker 1: I was in a really weird place where I accidentally
Speaker 1: got married once and I was with this dude and
Speaker 1: I just shouldn't have been with him. Yeah, who made
Speaker 1: you get those papers signed? I know, I finally did me,
Speaker 1: me like Shelley get those papers signed. So I was
Speaker 1: in a really dark place. And then that's when Tommy
Speaker 1: Dreamer called me and was like, Shelley Martinez, you're gonna
Speaker 1: go to Niver signing you. And I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, okay, and they gave me the choice to
Speaker 1: go to they were they hadn't start Florida yet, but
Speaker 1: they said, he said, you know, we're gonna have this
Speaker 1: new thing. It's going to be bigger than anything. No,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Deep South. Deep South was in Georgia, right,
Speaker 1: I think it was in Georgia at first. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: he said it's gonna be bigger than ov W and
Speaker 1: Kentucky blah blah blah. So at first I was actually
Speaker 1: like kind of soul like, oh, this is like the
Speaker 1: new like saying, but then what made me call him
Speaker 1: back and be like, no, I'm going to go to Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Was Molina was there at the time. She was on
Speaker 1: the road. She had just started with eminem backstory to
Speaker 1: my connection with Malina, her and I started together at
Speaker 1: the wrestling school that my first one, and so when
Speaker 1: she first got signed, she got signed like maybe a
Speaker 1: year year and a half before I did, And it
Speaker 1: was really cool because it wasn't one of those things
Speaker 1: where we were like trying to be in competition with
Speaker 1: each other. It was like, Okay, whoever gets there first,
Speaker 1: like figure it out so then we can cheer each
Speaker 1: other on. So that's kind of what we did. And
Speaker 1: do you want to say something, Yeah, you're jumping ahead
Speaker 1: of a VW though, right, No, no, no, this is
Speaker 1: this is pre to OVW. So okay, she got first.
Speaker 1: Then I was like, okay, I need to get signed.
Speaker 1: So then I got signed, and then that's okay, do
Speaker 1: you want to go to Deep South? And at first
Speaker 1: I said yes, and then and I thought no, Molina,
Speaker 1: even though she's not at OVW anymore, she's in Kentucky,
Speaker 1: and I thought, I'm looking out of states, so I
Speaker 1: had to be around somebody I knew, especially because this
Speaker 1: is the first time I was away from my sister
Speaker 1: like that. So that's when I decided to go to OVW,
Speaker 1: and I'm really glad that I did because the connections
Speaker 1: that I made there, even though I don't really talk
Speaker 1: to anyone from that era anymore, they really served an
Speaker 1: awesome purpose in my life and like keeping me kind
Speaker 1: of from not going crazy from especially when after gone
Speaker 1: from WWE was like, oh yeah, yeah, So I started
Speaker 1: at OVW and what's so funny is I got there
Speaker 1: on fourth of July and then like I went I
Speaker 1: think it was a day or two after I had
Speaker 1: gotten to Kentucky. I went to OVW and they had
Speaker 1: their like taping for their OVWTV, and that was the
Speaker 1: night Jim Cornette went off on sorry I Know, Santino Dantino,
Speaker 1: Santino Santino, And so I walked into this whole thing thinking, like,
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? I thought it was
Speaker 1: a joke because I was backstage. Of course, my first
Speaker 1: time being at OBW, I'm all excited, and then I
Speaker 1: just see Jim Cornette, that's your first day there? Yes, Wow, damn,
Speaker 1: He's like, I think, didn't me slap over something? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He slapped the ship out of him for breaking uh,
Speaker 1: basically breaking a smile while the Boogeyman was going through
Speaker 1: the crowd, and like completely no selling the Boogeyman. I
Speaker 1: just remember him being in Boris sorry, I Stantino, I
Speaker 1: know him is Boris Santino Marella's face. He's just like
Speaker 1: in his face blah blah blah. And then like and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, is this there's no camera? That's real
Speaker 1: work exactly because I was like, wait a second, what
Speaker 1: that's great? It seems so like something that I would
Speaker 1: see back in California, not at like WWF like, and
Speaker 1: so I was like what. And then the next day
Speaker 1: they were like everyone came with a serious face and
Speaker 1: I'm still like hey, and then like they're all time,
Speaker 1: what's the future, And then Danny Davis had to talk
Speaker 1: to us all and I'm like, what the hell is
Speaker 1: going on? And you know, now that I'm remembering all this,
Speaker 1: that explains my whole wrestling career. What the hell is
Speaker 1: going on? Yeah, pretty much sums it up in a sentence.
Speaker 1: But it's always, but what the hell's going on? You
Speaker 1: never know? You never know? Oh boy, it though it's okay,
Speaker 1: but so yeah, that's why w And what's interesting is
Speaker 1: I had only been there for like maybe a week,
Speaker 1: and they told me that I was going to be
Speaker 1: a vampire and I was going to be with Kevin
Speaker 1: seven at the time, Gang Grel and Jimmy wanyg Yang
Speaker 1: and we were going to be the new breed or
Speaker 1: not new breed, new bud breed. I became the new breath,
Speaker 1: and so I was all excited. And I remember they
Speaker 1: were like, come tomorrow, have like a kind of vampire
Speaker 1: attire whatever. So I come the next day and I remember,
Speaker 1: I'll never forget Mickey James was in the girl's locker
Speaker 1: room and I was like, oh, where's Kevin at She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you didn't hear. And I was like what. She's like,
Speaker 1: he got fired? And wait what She's like that there's
Speaker 1: this whole thing that after WrestleMania they do a whole
Speaker 1: sweep and they get rid of a lot of people,
Speaker 1: and she, I was like, who else, She's like, get growed.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Yank Oh like oh perfect, my whole c the
Speaker 1: hell's going on? And so of course they explained that,
Speaker 1: you know, the sweeps had happened, and then they were
Speaker 1: like okay, scrap that idea. And then fast forward a
Speaker 1: year later. I don't know about the date, but it
Speaker 1: was in July, and that's when i'll happened. In July.
Speaker 1: I ended up becoming a damn vampire anyways on the
Speaker 1: new VCW. So it's like it work out, like I
Speaker 1: just always knew that I was supposed to be there,
Speaker 1: and I know you're with Kevin. What was that and
Speaker 1: you were with Kevin? I was with Kevin, like that's
Speaker 1: the thing, and it just was so meant and the
Speaker 1: fact that I am a vampire, it's not a gimmick.
Speaker 1: It's like it was like I don't even have to act.
Speaker 1: I just got to, like, you know, say what's on
Speaker 1: my mind? I guess or like whatever, and I did
Speaker 1: and it was a lot of fun. So that's like,
Speaker 1: in the nutshell how it all happened. Okay, Yeah, interesting,
Speaker 1: And like I said earlier, we got to do our
Speaker 1: little deal for why three four weeks tops before Balls
Speaker 1: took drugs and got caught and ruined my life in
Speaker 1: the WWA. Thanks Balls, But yeah, we we had the
Speaker 1: best time working together for that little stint we could have.
Speaker 1: It's so much more. I remember I remember her and
Speaker 1: I were going over our little match that we had
Speaker 1: and they gave us. Gosh, it was barely like a
Speaker 1: minute and a half, two minutes top and Jim Ross
Speaker 1: comes walking by and he's like, good luck, ladies, and
Speaker 1: I was like thanks. And then we came back through
Speaker 1: the current and it was either him or Jerry Lawler,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's all. That's all they gave you.
Speaker 1: I was like, yep, you know, and we we I
Speaker 1: remember you and I were talking the Undertaker and we're like,
Speaker 1: we want to do this spot where we get on
Speaker 1: the top group and we're like fighting and then we
Speaker 1: fall to the outside through a table and Undertaker's like, yep,
Speaker 1: go go pitch it. I think it sounds great. And
Speaker 1: we pitched it. They're like absolutely no, and we're like,
Speaker 1: oh okay, we're going to do it. We were like,
Speaker 1: that's the girls we were. We were there because we
Speaker 1: just wanted to have fun and entertain those people. And
Speaker 1: those people would have gone nuts. Oh my god, could
Speaker 1: you imagine they would have went nuts. Yeah, it's so cool,
Speaker 1: but it just wasn't meant to be. We were chained, man,
Speaker 1: We were chained, and when let's see anything and that's
Speaker 1: the thing Franny, like when people kind of get like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, they have the wrong impression of like when
Speaker 1: I'm being vocal about things, it's like I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it to be like, it's more like, man, it's just
Speaker 1: a shame because I have so much more to offer.
Speaker 1: And it's really frustrating that people. And here's the thing
Speaker 1: I'm fine with, Like I was held down and I
Speaker 1: was being censored, I guess. But what irritates me now
Speaker 1: is people making it seem like just because I have
Speaker 1: an opinion is something, or I share a story about something,
Speaker 1: they automatically, oh, she's just mad because she's washed up.
Speaker 1: They because she didn't get to do it. And it's like, no, dude,
Speaker 1: like you don't even know the kind of girl I
Speaker 1: was down for this stuff. And then it let me
Speaker 1: so like like God, for sure, if you didn't work there,
Speaker 1: you have no idea. I remember and Gorilla waiting to
Speaker 1: walk out for it had to be one of our
Speaker 1: things for TV. And I heard them say, uh, nobody
Speaker 1: call her the Queen of extreme. She can't use that
Speaker 1: as I'm and I'm saying, and then I asked, and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, why I've used it for thirteen
Speaker 1: fourteen years now. Oh, Charmel's the queen. You can't be
Speaker 1: a queen here, you can't use the queen of extreme
Speaker 1: And I was okay. And then I didn't even get
Speaker 1: announced when I got in the ring because just I
Speaker 1: don't know if somebody told Justin Roberts just don't announce her,
Speaker 1: or if he forgot. But you were cutting a promo
Speaker 1: only about how I was going to be fat and pregnant,
Speaker 1: remember that the Kirch and Teller. I didn't even get
Speaker 1: an intro, and I'm just like standing there, like, what
Speaker 1: the hell is this? What is this place? Like? This sucks?
Speaker 1: You know, So I understand completely. I was willing to
Speaker 1: give one hundred and ten percent like I always did.
Speaker 1: You're the same way. You have a good work ethic
Speaker 1: like I do. They just wouldn't let us do it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, totally get it. But that's the past. We
Speaker 1: got something got out of it. Like we said, we
Speaker 1: are so due for a phone call behind so because
Speaker 1: we need to catch up. We've been texting a lot.
Speaker 1: But I want you to tell everybody social media how
Speaker 1: how they can see you on Patreon as well. Your
Speaker 1: secret society, your YouTube, give us all that info, all right,
Speaker 1: I'll give it to you now. So it's pretty simple
Speaker 1: pretty much. On all my social media, it's Shelley from
Speaker 1: Calli s h L L Y know y from Cali, California.
Speaker 1: I have my Patreon that is h for patreon dot
Speaker 1: com for slash Shelley Martinez. Or you can go to
Speaker 1: Shelley Secret Society dot com. That's kind of like my
Speaker 1: blog page where I show a little previews for it
Speaker 1: if you want to see what you get. It's I
Speaker 1: know it looks a little scary sometimes of people who
Speaker 1: aren't into my modeling photos, but you know, I do
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff on there, a lot of different vlogs.
Speaker 1: I have been on a hiatus of my podcast with
Speaker 1: my sister. We're gonna be starting that soon. I do
Speaker 1: a ton of live streams. So it's really just a
Speaker 1: exclusive fan club for if you're a fan of me,
Speaker 1: whether it's wrestling or my modeling stuff. Boom there it
Speaker 1: is for your badge. Yeah, am I badger there? You know,
Speaker 1: just to be in a bikini and show you a
Speaker 1: good time, you know, awesome, Oh my goodness, good time.
Speaker 1: That's right. She's she's Fun Time Shelley, Yeah, totally. And
Speaker 1: my YouTube channel YouTube dot com Forward Slash Ellie Martinez channel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all there, you know, if you want to check
Speaker 1: things out. I just started a new platform called Coco
Speaker 1: Scope and it's an alternative to YouTube to where they
Speaker 1: don't censor you. And I've just started yesterday, so I'm
Speaker 1: going to be starting to post some stuff on there,
Speaker 1: and I'm really excited about that because my whole thing
Speaker 1: is is I always get in trouble for music, Like
Speaker 1: I hate it, Like it'll just be in the background
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh my gosh, you just like So
Speaker 1: I just been really irritated with YouTube. So I hope
Speaker 1: that Coco Space or Coco Scope takes over girls like
Speaker 1: myself or content creators in general that just don't want
Speaker 1: to be censored. Like I'm tired of being censored. Damn
Speaker 1: it always. Oh wow. So like if you wanted to,
Speaker 1: like dance to a song or something, you can play
Speaker 1: the song and it's no copyright or well this is
Speaker 1: what I just talked to them, and this is the
Speaker 1: other thing. They are so nice and they write you
Speaker 1: back right away, and I like that customer service because
Speaker 1: YouTube you can't ever get a real person to talk to.
Speaker 1: But she said the gall I've been talking to that
Speaker 1: if it's in the background, as long as no one
Speaker 1: puts a strike against them for the copyright, it's fine.
Speaker 1: And they haven't had that yet. And then she's like,
Speaker 1: as long as it's not the focal point, like editing
Speaker 1: a video and like they're using that is like the music,
Speaker 1: gotcha okay, And she said if there is a copyright strike,
Speaker 1: they just ask that you either re edit it without
Speaker 1: it or take the video down. So it's not like
Speaker 1: you get punished or anything like that either. Not that
Speaker 1: I do topless or anything like that anymore, but it
Speaker 1: even lets people do topless like it's like very uncensored.
Speaker 1: I like, I even asked them. I was like, can
Speaker 1: I smoke my bomb? They're like, yeah, go ahead, I
Speaker 1: want to see Shelley wakem bake. You go over to
Speaker 1: the Coco scope and you can watch scope. You're always
Speaker 1: on like the forefront of these like new technology things.
Speaker 1: I love that. That's that's very cool. It's very good.
Speaker 1: Since I was like, way before wrestling, I had websites
Speaker 1: when I was just doing the modeling thing, I was
Speaker 1: really inspired by some models that were here, Dida Vonte's
Speaker 1: Cat Vonde, Stacy Burke. Yeah, girls who were on top
Speaker 1: of websites and having membership sites before it was like
Speaker 1: a thing. And I always like, when I was young,
Speaker 1: like eighteen, I was like, I want to do that.
Speaker 1: I want to make my own money, I want to
Speaker 1: put out my own stuff. I want that, And so
Speaker 1: I've always played around with that. And because of that,
Speaker 1: I've always like known about like what's happening or what's
Speaker 1: coming up. And what's so funny to me is like,
Speaker 1: once I do it, like a couple of years will
Speaker 1: go by, and then I see a bunch of wrestler
Speaker 1: girls starting to do it. And then that's when I
Speaker 1: was like, I told these girls, you're a trendsetter. Day
Speaker 1: you're a trendsetter. I'm just out there trying to help you.
Speaker 1: That's true. She's been telling me to do Patreon forever
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, no, it's too much work, I'm
Speaker 1: so lazy. And now we're doing one. But it's a
Speaker 1: different it's a it's a it's a podcast Patreon, which
Speaker 1: is totally different than a wrestling Patreon. But you know,
Speaker 1: but anyway, and it's because I knew, Franny, that you
Speaker 1: would be perfect for Patreon, like just doing your thing
Speaker 1: and like being you because people want to hear what
Speaker 1: you have to say. They want to know you more,
Speaker 1: They want to see what makes Francine tick, see what
Speaker 1: this hot mess is all about. That's mainly why they
Speaker 1: pay me money, you know, because you never know what
Speaker 1: you're going to get. But I do appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for all the glitches today, that this has
Speaker 1: never happened before, and of course i'd have you on
Speaker 1: and it would happen. But we'll have you on again,
Speaker 1: and we need to talk. So maybe one day next
Speaker 1: week we can get on the phone and chit chat
Speaker 1: a little bit and catch up. But I do love you,
Speaker 1: oh baby, oh, or listen to this that are a
Speaker 1: follower of me. Thank you for all Fred and prayers
Speaker 1: for little Fred. He's nineteen years old. My little Fred
Speaker 1: Bill last Friday. He's been very delicate. It's hard for
Speaker 1: him to even walk. It's been very hard at the
Speaker 1: Martinez household here, but here he is and he just
Speaker 1: wanted to pop in and see you. Thanks well, because
Speaker 1: of you, little Fred, my ratings just went through the roots.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Oh, Ethel's getting jealous. Here's Ethel,
Speaker 1: there's Ethel. Look at these outfits? Could you die so cute? Well,
Speaker 1: listen for hiring me so that I can get this
Speaker 1: little girl in Kentucky. There you go. You could take
Speaker 1: care of yourself too, because you had a scare last week.
Speaker 1: So give me a call when you are free and
Speaker 1: we'll catch up and thank you for your friendship. All righty,
Speaker 1: you guys have a one YouTube. I'll talk to you.
Speaker 1: Good to talk to you.