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It's our anniversary, 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.400 isn't it? Didn't we? I think it is like this time. 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.800 I don't have the anniversary partner, thank you. I don't 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:43.920 keep track of it. I don't know why I don't. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.480 I don't keep track of it because this show has 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.960 such like a cool vibe to it. I don't It 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.360 doesn't ever need like an anniversary show just to get 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.640 people to do. We have a cool vibe every week 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:57.360 and this goes back. Well, we have a great relationship 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.040 as a team, so it's great chemistry we are going 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:05.600 back to. We recorded this on October thirteenth, two thoy 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:12.240 and nineteen. Okay, okay, it was episode five. Okay. It 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:17.640 featured the first time we had Shelley joining us Shell, 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.920 but it was it was a different appearance because it 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.280 was her first. But this is episode five, so we're 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.960 still a little green as a team. Okay. It's just 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.160 great because it's the first time you guys are connecting 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.960 on the camera and it's it was very cool. Yeah, 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.719 I miss Shelley too. I haven't seen her in such 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.320 a long I mean we still talk obviously, but I 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.120 just haven't seen her in such a long time. And 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.080 I was thinking, oh, maybe if I do Wrestle Con 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.800 next year out there, I'll get to see her. Hopefully 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:53.000 I will. But she's you know, she's still very active 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:56.040 on even though she's not making appearances, she's still very 0:04:56.120 --> 0:05:01.760 active online and her content is excellent. So I believe 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.680 her website is Shelley Martinez dot net or dot com 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:06.599 something like that. You could just go to her Twitter 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.840 and uh, all the informations up there. But she's been 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.440 a friend of mine for years. And I've said it 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.080 before and I'll say it again. One of the only 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.720 good things that came out of the fake is her 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.440 and Ice friendship because I knew her before then, but 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:25.120 we weren't close until she became my room meee on 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:29.520 the road. So I love her. She's very funny, and 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:32.760 I think that the kind of you know, the funny 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.760 thing is I became good friends with Kevin Ferdig, who 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.400 was with her in that fake ECW. So it's like 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.400 I got to know about her through Kevin and then 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.280 I got to know of her for you, So for 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.200 her then to you know, have minimal contact with me. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.560 I just think it's funny because I had this intersection 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.600 of her people she was connected to, and it's just 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:58.400 that's the crazy thing about the wrestling communities. You don't 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.840 know which way. Yeah, you don't know which way it's 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.120 gonna happen, but it's all gonna come back to to 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:07.520 one point. So yeah, very cool. Okay, Well, where can 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:12.080 people find you listen to this beautiful interview? Yes, at 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:16.400 Chad E and B on Twitter, at IB Exclusives on Instagram. Uh, 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:20.599 please follow Franccene's YouTube page. It's YouTube dot com, slash 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:25.400 e c W Diva Francine. On YouTube, you subscribe, you like, 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.840 you share, you do all that good stuff and you 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:29.720 see all the great content we have coming your way 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:31.960 on YouTube. Thank you for the plug, by the way, 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.560 and across the born on social media, you can find 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.480 me at e c W Diva Francine. But for now, 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:44.560 enjoy the show. This. This is a girl that I adore. 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.400 I love her. She has become one of my best friends, 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:52.279 very very talented and and has a beautiful Heart as well. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.320 You might remember her as Ariel in the Fake e 0:06:56.440 --> 0:07:02.000 Seed of Uh. But let's let's welcome with Shelley Martinez 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:09.680 to the podcast. Hello, Hello baby, you're no picture. Oh 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:13.960 my god, you just pop me huge with Budge. You 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:18.000 know what? Then mission accomplished because I started when it 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.040 asked me to put my name in there. I started 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.000 to put I put Shelley, and I said no, no, no, no, 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:27.040 no delete. You don't have to tell the story now 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.720 because nobody's gonna understand why your name is badge. Okay, 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:36.240 well doesn't know. I'm just everybody knows. At the bottom 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.560 of our screen. If you don't see it on the audio, 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.440 it's audio. Everybody's get their name on the bottom. So 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.520 I got Chad, Francinas Francine, and Shelley has badges. So 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:48.640 Shelley love it. I really wish I committed though too. 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:52.440 I was gonna put Morning Badge. But I love it. 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.640 When Francine and I were working together back in the 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:00.440 day in the sagy c W we used to just 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:05.160 we love love Jillian Hall. But Jillian is this is 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.200 not talking crap. She'll admit it like she's a little 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:11.880 presty a little stuck upy about certain things, you know, 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.800 like and when I say that, I say that because 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:17.480 I'm a very rough around the edge, just kind of goal. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.880 I'm very rate. So me and Francine would be like, hi, 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.920 badge face, and we'd say how my badge, and we'd 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.880 say all this a badge badge, and she'd get so angry. 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:29.160 She would just be like, why do you have to 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:34.719 say that word? And she'd get so upset, and you know, 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:36.599 we would just badge face. And then I remember, I 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:38.640 hope it's okay to say this, franccene. But one time 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.720 I was seeing this fella and I didn't know if 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.560 I was gonna see him that night. And Francine said, 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.400 you know what, Shelley, you always wash your badge. You 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.720 never know, And I said, exactly, So the badge has 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:55.760 many definitions to me, if you will. And when I 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.559 had that awesome, awesome uh oh, it says hold on, 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:02.559 hold now you keep going, Yeah, she froze up, so 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:04.520 hold let me let me reboot this. Let me just 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.160 make sure she's all good. Hold on one second. So 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.400 I was saying that Francine and I love Jillian Hall, 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.599 but she is a little prissy about certain things. And 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.719 you know, Francine and I are just those galos that 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.440 we're going to say what we want. So we would 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.480 really get under her skin because we would say hi, 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.800 badge face or oh, badge this, and she's like, oh, 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:26.280 I do you have to say that word? And she 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:29.960 gets so literally upset with us, and we just loved 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:33.719 it so so much. And then back when Francine and 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.640 I were in the road together, I was in my 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.360 mind dating a guy, but in his mind I wasn't, 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:40.960 so I didn't know if doesn't see him that day, 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.680 and Francine goes, remember Shell, always wash your badge because 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:50.079 you never know. So THEA has many different definitions and 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.400 the bad advice and it really is and the best 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.719 part of all of those two stories, and how the 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.240 badge is so dear to me. When I had that 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:03.880 awesome match with Rebel on TNA and I was, uh, 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.120 you know, she was like splitting my legs, and so 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.000 of course you got to sell the badge, and so 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.559 I thought, oh my gosh, I feel that Gillian and 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.800 Francine will see this match, and in that moment, I 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.640 had a choice, and so I started yelling my badge. 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.680 So when people are like, it's become iconic, Like people 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.280 will just tweet me my bage, my badge. I'm like, 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:29.000 my bade. I watched that match and I can't even 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.800 tell you how huge I popped when I heard her 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:35.640 scream my badge, because the whole arena is just like 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.439 you could tell. They're like, did I just hear badge? 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.800 Like why is she screaming my bag? Didn't I do 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:48.120 exactly why she did it? So people, I feel, yes, 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.000 I feel blessed that I was included in that moment 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.079 that she thought about me during work, So I I 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.040 love it. I love it. There's the thing, Chad, A 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.199 lot of people don't realize about me because I'm a 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:01.480 girl with like big boobs and I like to fix 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.839 myself up. Oops. They think that like, uh, I get 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.280 my kicks or getting attention, but like being all hot 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:11.319 and sexy. No, I just like do that. I get 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.880 my kicks and making people laugh, specifically my friends. So 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.760 that's why I took that opportunity on being on a 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:22.920 pay per view and without hesitation and commitment, yell my badge, 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.200 my badge, oh my god, my vadge, and I don't 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:27.520 I don't know if they picked it up. But I 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.920 also said, I think I've made myself. They might have. 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:35.960 They might have, but I was so taken aback by 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:40.240 Badge being screened out into the arena that I was 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.679 just I was like, I love this girl. This is 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.280 the best thing I've ever heard in a long time. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:50.400 And it's just hilarious and it's it's Shelley, It's pure Shelley. Well, 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.839 that kind of like goes back to like why I 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.240 kind of wanted to do wrestling to begin with, because 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.840 I would hear these fun stories of like people being 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.520 like all buddy buddy, and like they trained together or 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:02.959 maybe they were on the road together. And then I 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.920 as I was going up in wrestling, I would watch 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.520 those people because they were, you know, older than me. 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.520 I would watch them play these little jokes on each other, 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:13.360 and I was like, that's what I want to be, Like, 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.800 I get it, Like it makes it so much more 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.640 fun when like, because what people don't realize is the 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.800 show is such a tiny part of like wrestling. It's 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.240 like so much like preparation and getting there and all this. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:30.360 So for me, I found it very attractive that these 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:35.960 dudes were giving legitimate hard times or practical practical jokes 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:37.679 on their buddies. I don't like it when it's like 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:39.360 you don't know the person and you're just doing it 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.120 to like be funny. But when you know the person 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.960 and you know it's all in good nature. I fell 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.040 in love with that idea. So when I carried on 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.240 into wrestling, I was like, that's who I'm going to be, 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.760 damn it. And my badge and I are very proud 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.719 of that moment and that yeah, yes, absolutely, And it 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.520 was never like a malicious thing. It was never hurtful. 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:04.439 It was always in good fun I've said this a 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:08.760 million times, Like the fakey Se Dub, the only good 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:12.480 thing that came out of it was our friendship because 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:16.360 we knew each other before a little bit from w W, 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:20.280 which was another classic of BED that we worked for, 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.800 and I loved it there. That place was great, and 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:26.880 Shelley and I knew each other, but we didn't hang 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.120 out too much. And then we go over to faky 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.199 c Dub and we're on the same brand, and we 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.200 now we call each other roomy because we started rooming together. 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.319 I was miserable there and I didn't and you know, 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:43.439 I wasn't comfortable. I didn't like it there, and like 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.959 you and me together made it tolerable for me because 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.880 it wasn't fun. It just it just wasn't fun for me, 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:54.839 Like I guess when I was saying earlier, like I 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.480 knew that, like you said that before, I was the 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.679 best thing. But to see your face right now, like 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:04.280 I feel like you're in that moment, I'm realizing how 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:06.800 unhappy you really were, like I knew you were, but 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:08.480 like I was making it, trying to make it fun 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.040 for us. So I guess to me at like I 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.280 remember those times more than like you weren't happy, and 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.960 now I'm bringing back to that, And it's so cool 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:20.800 because to hear from you that when you're going through 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:22.400 that time, that I was able to make it fun 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.000 for you. Like towards the end of my wrestling career, 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:27.800 that's all I cared about, Like I didn't care anymore. 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.720 I just saw girls feeling broken down and beaten, especially 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.080 because they hadn't gotten to WWE kind of what we're 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:37.360 talking about, Chad, and they were just miserable. So I 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:40.520 would my mission would just to be have a fun 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.280 match and make that locker room fun if that means 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.320 I'd come in with Sam Champagne that I snuck in 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.520 so be it, like you know, different little things like that. 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.000 But all of a sudden, girls started telling me, oh 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.160 my god, like I haven't had that much fun and 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.560 how long? And like that meant so much to me. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.840 Like when people were like, oh, you know, she's just 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.560 bitter because she no, That's what means the world to me, 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.320 about more than anything. So to hear that what I 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:07.240 did that for you and I didn't have in my 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.440 head that that's what my role is to like bring 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.920 yea to these girls. It's cool that I brought into you, Franny, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.840 because we had the good times we did and I 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.560 was just so restricted there, and you know, you know, 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.440 they didn't let me do anything that I was capable 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:28.040 of doing. So it was time after time these stupid 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.920 bikini things. And then you know, when you and I 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.720 had our little program, I was like, so cool, I'm 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.880 gonna get to do what I can do. And then 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.960 Balls goes and gets a drug test and they find 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.360 drugs and then they're like, well do you have your bikini? 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.760 And I'm just like, holy shit, there's nothing else you 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.360 can think of, Like this is all creative can think of. 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.160 You know, I was like, they didn't even care, they 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.920 didn't even try, and it was so ridiculous. So my 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.960 only other, you know, the thing that I could do 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:02.720 while being on the road was to try and have 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.680 a good time when we were away from the arena, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:09.880 and that's what we tried to do. So yeah, that 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.800 was really because it was a miserable time for me, 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.960 you know, and I always said, I'm grateful for the opportunity. 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.680 I got to make some money, but I got a 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:20.840 really good friendship out of the deal, so it was 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.120 worth it when you think about it, you know, oh, 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:29.320 absolutely absolutely. When you know, when I was in a 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:33.560 bad mood about everything and I was very hurt, something 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.560 that started to pull me out of that mindset was 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.040 you know my dog, Ethel, my little girl. Yeah. I 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.520 got her in Kentucky when I was under contract because 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.840 I had my boyfriend and he's from California. I took 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:49.840 him with me to Kentucky and I felt like he 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:51.840 needs a wife because I'm at training all day, you know, 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.400 like he needs a wife. So I got Ethel, And 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:58.240 it's like, dude, I literally would have never had Ethel, 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.920 my baby, my little girl, had I not gotten signed 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:03.960 and so when I started to like that was the 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.960 first turnaround, and then I was like okay, and then 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.400 my second turnaround was us and how we made it fun, 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.920 and I was like, Okay, that was good, and like 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:18.000 I started to like slowly weed out the crap. Yeah 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.680 what I got from it. And then that's when I 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:22.879 was just like oh, and that's when I went back 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.800 to the Indies. And I had so much fun at 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.840 first because I was like, I thought, freed from the negativity, 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:32.680 I've refocused on what was important. I brought that energy 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.440 to the Indies. And then when people started screwing me 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.320 over in the Indies, it just like triggered it all. 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.480 And that's I was like, as this people, I'm done, 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.680 I'm out of here, Like what are you Like? I 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:45.920 thought that was just like WWE what No, yeah, nerds. 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:52.200 For people who might not know your history, let's go 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:57.600 back before OBW, Like how did you get started in wrestling? Okay, 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:03.480 So I know this sounds really generic maybe, but I 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.480 just knew I was supposed to be in wrestling. I 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:07.440 just knew it when I was little. I watch it. 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.080 I specifically watched it like when Cindy Lauper was involved 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.159 and then I would fall out a lot because I 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:14.720 just saw a lot of different things going on. I 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.840 was a pageant girl, boys, you know, different things to 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.080 take me away in it. But I always came back 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:24.920 to watching wrestling and when I would watch the performers. 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.960 Someone that stands out to me so much at that 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:33.040 era was gold Dust. My sister and I after church, 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.960 we would watch wrestling and we watch gold Dust and 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:39.240 I would just be like wow, like like that's so 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.800 theatrical and cool. Yeah, And I just knew, like in 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.119 my soul, like that was my destiny. And I didn't 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:47.800 really like talk about it. M I just feel like 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:49.920 when people would ask, I'm like, yeah, I'm maybe a wrestler. 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.159 I was very like whatever about it because I just 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.520 knew that was my path. I didn't know how to 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:58.359 do it though, because I'm from California, so there's not 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.000 especially back in the day. There wasn't many promotions or 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.960 schools or whatever. Everything was like Midwest or East Coast, 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.280 so I had no clue. And this is before the 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.040 internet is what it is today, So I didn't think 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.880 to be like wrestling schools. I didn't know wrestling schools existed. 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.280 I just you know, it was like, what how do 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:19.159 I do this? So what I would do is I 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.720 would when I would go to gigs because I started 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.000 doing modeling and acting after high school, I would just 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.360 talk about how I was going to be this wrestler, 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:28.760 and I thought to myself, someone's going to remember that 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.919 and maybe it'll like get me in the right direction. 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:36.320 So eventually a casting director put me in this independent 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:41.359 film called Backyard Dogs, and I played a wrestler's girlfriend 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:45.560 and they use local wrestlers and so during like the 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.480 lunch breaks and stuff, little breaks, I would sit there 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.040 and I'm like, so, how do I do this? Like, no, 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:51.800 I'm going to be a wrestler, So what do I do? 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.240 And They're like, well, you got to go to wrestling school. 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.440 You train, then you get matches, and then you put 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:00.040 a tape together and then you send it out. I 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.159 was like, all right, done. So I started going to 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:06.480 wrestling school, I started to trade, I had matches, I 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:11.040 put this apes out, and then I just went from there. 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:16.760 I had some really interesting moments in that journey though, 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:20.360 because like the first wrestling school I left. The reason 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:24.520 why I left is because the owner groped me when 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.240 he was supposed to be helping me with the injury. 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:29.639 You know. The wrestling school after that I went to 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:32.679 was a lucha school shot out WPW. That was one 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:35.680 of the best times I had in wrestling. It was 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.600 that's when I had that romance again of the wrestling 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:41.639 business because it would just be me and Fred and 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:43.880 a bunch of boys in a van and we would 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:47.600 like drive and we would go to Texas and Mexico 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:50.800 and like that's what I was like, this is what 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.680 it's about like And so I did that for like 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:58.400 two years, and then I started to get looked at. 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:01.720 And then I used to be friends with that guy 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:06.000 Jesse James that built motorcycles and stuff. And when he 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:08.040 was hanging out with him and he was like, why 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:10.560 aren't you in WWS, I was like, I don't know. 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:12.760 I mean, I'm doing what I'm supposed to. And so 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:15.680 then the next day I got a call and it 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:20.480 was from, Oh, I forget Kevin. So, no, is that 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.320 Kevin right? I don't know, done Kevin done? It wasn't 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:28.600 Kevin done. It was somebody else, somebody And then that's 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:33.399 a wrestler guy. There's another, well, there's another Kevin Sullivan. 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.160 But I don't know if he's like a publication guy. 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:37.840 There's another Kevin Sullivan, so okay, it could have been 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:40.680 the other one, the other guy who from that guy 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:43.080 I grewed from some dude. And then the next thing 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:44.680 I know, Johnny Ace is on the phone with me. 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:48.400 And it was interesting because I had a falling out 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:52.000 with a wrestling company at the time, and they kind 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:53.479