1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us. We are live 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: in Washington, d C at our affiliate Freedom one oh 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: four point seven. Appreciate all of you who are listening 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: in the DC area and around the nation and around 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: the world on our five hundred some odd affiliate stations, 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: as well as so many of you downloading the podcast. 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you. 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: We got a lot of stories to hit for you 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: throughout the course of today's program. First of all, Senator 13 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: Josh Holly will join us in studio here in DC 14 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: to talk about the issues that are currently underway. We 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: got a bunch of breaking news that I want to 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: hit off the top here. 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: Buck. 18 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: It appears that they're essentially going to give up on 19 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: trying to elect a House speaker and they are going 20 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: to keep the interim speaker in place, McHenry, and he 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: will be in place until January. This is a mess. 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 2: Let's start with this, Buck, just because we're in DC, 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 2: and again this is expected to happen in the next 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: few hours. Jim Jordan couldn't get the votes, Steve Scalisee 25 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: couldn't get the votes, Kevin McCarthy doesn't have the votes, 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: And right now, Jim Jordan will remain Speaker designy, meaning 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: that he hopes that sometime in January of twenty twenty 28 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: four he's going to be able to become the speaker. 29 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: But the big challenge here is essentially the House Speaker 30 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: negotiates with the White House and an interim House Speaker 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: given the fact that I believe I'm right about this, 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: the budget is not funded past November, doesn't have a 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: lot of chits on the table, so to speak, to 34 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: be able to negotiate with the Democrats because he doesn't 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: even have the job in earnest. So effectively, we are 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: going to have an interim House Speaker for the next 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: couple of effect three months basically, and we'll see what 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: happens after that. 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: It seems like the concern that we had been sharing 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: that there was no great plan in place for what 41 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: was supposed to happen next was a very valid concern, 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: as in there there wasn't the next steps, The next 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: steps were not already laid out, and it doesn't seem 44 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: like there was a whole lot that was intended that 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: this was intended to accomplish other than alse Kevin McCarthy, 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: because they can and now they'll just have to fight 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: this out at a later date. Effectively, this is like 48 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 3: hitting the delay button. It's like saying time out. We'll 49 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: have this present I mean the Speaker pro temp, and 50 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: then we'll see what happens. 51 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: I think the way to analyze this buck is there's 52 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: about eight to ten people that did not like Kevin McCarthy, 53 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: and there's at least eight to ten, if not ten 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: to twenty, that were so angry over the way Kevin 55 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: McCarthy was removed that they refuse to support anyone else. 56 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 2: And so I don't know how the logjam gets. My concern, 57 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: and this continues to be my concern as we move 58 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: into twenty four, is that we could end up in 59 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: a situation where effectively they're end up being like twenty 60 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Republicans who pick a moderate Republican and go in cahoots 61 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: with the Democrats on some sort of power sharing move. 62 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: Because there's I think the number buck is there's eighteen 63 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: Republicans who represent districts that Joe Biden won in twenty twenty, 64 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: and so I understand people out there who say, oh, well, 65 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: we need a speaker on the right side. You and 66 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: I both want Jim Jordan to be speaker. But the 67 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: closer we get to twenty twenty four and now they're 68 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: talking about making a decision in January. And again, remember 69 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: it's only like a six month or seven month speakership 70 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: because by the summer they're all going to be off 71 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: into the campaign season. I can see those moderate Republicans 72 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: who are trying to get re elected and stay in 73 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: power deciding that they want to go with somebody much 74 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: more moderate to try not to rock the vote too much. 75 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: So it's basically going to go till January. Now we 76 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: don't know what's going. 77 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: To happen, and at that point we'll be even deeper 78 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: into the election cycle, which means that the role of 79 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: any speaker would be effectively a caretaker, and electioneering of 80 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: some kind, I mean, trying to help Republicans get a 81 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: larger majority in the House will be absolutely essentially See 82 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi take it a little victory lap here. This 83 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: is cut twenty over Jim Jordan, our buddy Jim not 84 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: being the speaker Nancy couldn't help herself play it. 85 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 4: I think it was a triumph of democracy in our 86 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: country that an insurrection was rejected by the Republicans again 87 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 4: as their candidate for speaker. We've always wished winning party 88 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 4: well as they choose their leader. I've never in the 89 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 4: decades that I've been here, when we've had a speaker's 90 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 4: race on our side or their side. We've always respected 91 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 4: each other's judgment. Today and yesterday that was an assault 92 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 4: on our democracy as Jim Jordan assaulted our democracy on January. 93 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: Sixth, Oh well, why why is Jim Jordan an insurrectionist 94 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: because he supported Trump? 95 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 5: No? 96 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: I know, but I mean, come on, this is. 97 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: Going And on the same day, by the way, that 98 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: there were Palestinian supporters, Hamas supporters who took over the 99 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: capitol and they had to arrest some of them after Rashida. 100 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: Will play that audio for you, after Rashida to lead 101 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 2: continue to spread the lie. Things have gotten so bad 102 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 2: in DC Buck that this morning, while we were waiting 103 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: to come to do the show, I actually found myself 104 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: reading John Fetterman's Twitter account and. 105 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: Pretty reasonable on the Israeli issue. You're telling me, yes, 106 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: I couldn't. I see Clay in the hotel lobby and 107 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 3: he's like, You're not gonna believe this. Fetterman is making 108 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 3: sense Israel. 109 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: I think I read what well. 110 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: I'll read the tweet, but I think we even have 111 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: him speaking and he can barely speak. Cut sixteen. Here's 112 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: what he tweeted. It's truly disturbing that members of Congress 113 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 2: rushed to blame Israel for the hospital's tragedy in Gaza. 114 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: Who would take the word of a group that just 115 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: massacred innocent Israeli civilians over our key ally? And I 116 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 2: read that and I was like, is this a Fedterman 117 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: parody account? Because it makes so much sense, And I 118 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: don't know how well he said it, But on cut 119 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: sixteen here, I'm gonna be honest with you. I believe 120 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: in the recorded history of Clay and Buck, this is 121 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: the first time we've ever said anything positive about John Fetterman. 122 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: So you are high fiving Federman right now. This is 123 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: what is going on, how broken DC has become. This morning, 124 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: this morning, I'm sitting downstairs in the hotel lobby and 125 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, this guy, Fetterman, he's actually making 126 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: a good point here's cut sixteen. 127 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 5: I'm always going to stand on the side of Israel always, 128 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 5: and now it's you know, it's clear that Israel was 129 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 5: not responsible for the bombing at the hospital, and it's 130 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 5: tragic that hundreds of innocent civilians were killed and it 131 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 5: was done by the same side that butcherd innocent Israeli 132 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 5: citizens over in Israel this week. And I don't know 133 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 5: how you can get more despicable than they already are 134 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 5: to now they're trying to blame Israel on that to 135 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 5: inflame ten peticians all there as well too. And I'm 136 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 5: proud that the President visited there, and I'm going to 137 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 5: stand with President Biden, and I'm going to stand with Israel, 138 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 5: and I look forward to voting for whatever they need, 139 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 5: military intelligence or a humanitarian aid. 140 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know what said his dogs and kat 141 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 3: living together in mass hysteria. This is crazy Fetterman speaking cogedly, 142 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: coherently and pulling it all together and saying appropriate things 143 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: about the state of Israel. So there's that happening, which 144 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: I think was a little bit of a surprise. But 145 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: as I've been saying all along, this is why Democrats 146 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: don't pay a price for the anti Semitism wing that 147 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: exists with the Democrat Party. The biggest name Democrats overwhelmingly 148 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: with very few exceptions. I mean, AOC is very recognizable 149 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: in a media sense, but the most powerful Democrats are 150 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: all very pro Israel. And that's why as this issue 151 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 3: plays out with Joe Biden, Joe Biden is not going 152 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: to lose Jewish support in America, you know, the support 153 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: of Jewish voters over what he's doing here, because we 154 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: do have a bipartisan policy of very clear support for 155 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: the state of Israel. It's just with Fetterman, it wasn't 156 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: only what he said, but it was the clarity with 157 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 3: which he said it, which is a reminder everybody as well. 158 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: He may be improving over time. I'm sure he plans on, 159 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: you know, running when his time comes. It's some years out, 160 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 3: but running for reelection. And some of these Democrats we 161 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: make fun of them, We see them as you know, 162 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: completely out of their depth. Joe Biden is the single 163 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: best example. Well, well, Kamala Harris also out of her depth. 164 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot. Joe Biden was the one 165 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: that I think is the most clearly not up for 166 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: the job, and yet sometimes they can pull it together 167 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: in a way that'll fool just enough voters or please 168 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 3: just enough voters that they can get what they need. 169 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: Reminds me, Biden is going to be speaking tonight at 170 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: eight o'clock, and I'll tell you right now everybody. 171 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: It's going to be a speech dealing with. 172 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: Israel, and he's going to say things that overwhelmingly a 173 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: lot of people are going to view as what he 174 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: needs to say. I mean, this is not a moment 175 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: where I think you're going to see Biden say anything 176 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: radical or blunder. And obviously we're still waiting to see 177 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: what goes on here with the ground war. There are 178 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: all these efforts underway to get humanitarian resources in. They've 179 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: got to think twenty trucks right now, clay ofanity, food, 180 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: medicine supplies that are on their way to Gaza going 181 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 3: across the Rafa border in Egypt. Bidens in part of 182 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: negotiating that. So trying to lessen the humanitarian crisis is 183 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: a part of what the US negotiation is going to 184 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 3: be involved in. But the ground campaign to destroy Hamas 185 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 3: is what we're really still waiting for. 186 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: A couple of other things that we're going to be 187 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: talking about that, are News or the Sydney Powell, former 188 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 2: Trump attorney. She is pleading guilty, going to pay a fine, 189 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 2: six years probation in the Atlanta trial where I believe 190 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: they had what nineteen criminal defendants. She's now going to 191 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: testify against Trump, which is going to increase the legal 192 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: peril there. We'll talk about what that means. There's a 193 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: Bloomberg poll out buck that is incredibly favorable to Donald Trump. 194 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: I'll share some of those data points with you. It's 195 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: all swing states and Trump spoiler alert according to this 196 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: Bloomberg poll. Again, I don't think Bloomberg is particularly biased 197 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: towards Trump. Is leading in virtually all of the swing states. 198 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: Trump could very well win this election, and I think 199 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: Democrats are in denial about that reality at some level. 200 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: But I also think they're increasingly figuring that out. That 201 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: the numbers are indicating that it's going to be what 202 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: we've said along, which is very competitive. It's going to 203 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: be very close, but it's going to be so close 204 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: that the repeat of twenty sixteen, although they it won't 205 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: be quite like that, because I don't think they'll say 206 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: there's a ninety seven percent. Yeah, right, Biden winning, but 207 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: the shock of the day after of a Trump win 208 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: and a Trump presidency part two is something that Democrats 209 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: may very well have to deal with again, I know, 210 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 2: assuming he is the nominee at this point, I don't. 211 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 2: I don't really see how, barring some. 212 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: Exigent circumstance would it would have to I think it 213 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: would have to be a health issue, and there would 214 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: have to him. I don't see how this changes based 215 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: on ground game in Iowa or anything else. And that's 216 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: just me, And you know, I think you feel the 217 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: same way. That's looking into the future, which can always change. 218 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: But for right now, we have we ever seen a 219 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 3: Republican primary with somebody this far out at this stage. 220 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 3: People have talked about, Oh, Rudy Giuliani was really far 221 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: ahead at one point, and Fred Thompson had a moment 222 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: and Herman Kane. Yeah, but you know they had a moment. 223 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: They didn't have a forty to fifty five point lead 224 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: for basically the entirety of the primary leading up to 225 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 3: Super Tuesday. Yeah, And I mean, here's the deal. The 226 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: first votes are going to happen in Iowa and January fifteenth, 227 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: a lot of this is gonna get shut down from 228 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving to Christmas to New Year's. What I mean by 229 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: that is a lot of you out there are going 230 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: to be going about your lives. You're gonna be busy 231 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: with family, You're gonna be busy with kids, You're gonna 232 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: be busy with friends. And so the move has to 233 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: happen in the next thirty days in order for somebody, 234 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: I think, to really challenge Trump, and we haven't seen 235 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 3: it happen at all. 236 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: Now. 237 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: We had Chris Christy on yesterday and he said, I 238 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: think Iowa, then New Hampshire, and by South Carolina it 239 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: will turn into Trump versus whoever the top candidate is 240 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: one v one. I'm not sure that I buy that, 241 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: because I think there's a lot of people who will 242 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: refuse to drop out on principle for instant the veik 243 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: is not going any well, and I wonder, I mean, 244 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: Mike Pence can be early afford to run a campaign 245 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 2: right now. I don't think he's going to drop out. 246 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: I think it's a sort of a personal anti Trump 247 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: campaign that he's running. I don't think he wants to 248 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 2: drop out. And then Nicki Haley and DeSantis are battling 249 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: it out so carefully to be the number two that 250 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 2: I don't think either one of them wants to run it. 251 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: There was also a period where you could have made 252 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 3: an argument and I think that this the DeSantis camp 253 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 3: was doing this where they weren't attacking Trump because they 254 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: didn't want an attack on Trump to feel like an 255 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: attack on Trump supporters, and that could have explained why 256 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: there was very little anti Trump anything stretching back to 257 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: what June of this past year, May of this past year. 258 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 3: But now we're getting into go time, yep, and the 259 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 3: numbers haven't. 260 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: Moved at all. 261 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: So if you were really serious about trying to shake 262 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: things up, you'd have to really go after Trump on 263 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: a regular basis. And with the exception of DeSantis a little, 264 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: none of the other candidates really are. And to me 265 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: that's just an indicator of they don't want to they 266 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 3: don't want to upset the King and waiting. 267 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's true. Also, there's no talk about 268 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: Trump being involved in the debates at all. 269 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: None. 270 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: Right, we're dealing with we got the Miami debate. We 271 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: were talking to some guys from the RNC. They're going 272 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: to have a debate in December. They're going to have 273 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: a debate in January. They're going to have a debate 274 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: in February. I don't think Trump's going to do any 275 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: of those, and I think by South Carolina potentially we've 276 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: got a nominee selected. So that's the trajector where we're going. 277 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: A couple of other things, Buck that I wanted to mention. 278 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about eight percent mortgage rates. Eight percent. 279 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: I know a lot of you are feeling that, and 280 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: this is ultimately the failure of Biden. 281 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: You just I'm I'm feeling that. Yeah, rough Yeah, rough Man. 282 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: What do you guys think? 283 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: I gotta work so hard on the radio show. 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Various trials happening, 307 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: and Sidney Powell is part of the Georgia racketeering trial. 308 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: She of released the Kraken fame and she has pleaded guilty. 309 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: Here is a legal well, actually, we don't have to 310 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: get to their legal analysis right now. I don't even 311 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: really care what MSNBC has to say. Here's what's going on. Folks, 312 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: Sidney Powell is saying, Okay, fine, I'm a part of 313 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: this racketeering election thing. She's getting I believe, six years 314 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: of probation under some first offender statute in Georgia, so 315 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: she's not going to do any jail time. She's got 316 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: a pretty small fine attached to it. I wonder if 317 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: her legal license is I haven't seen any suggestion that 318 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: she's losing her legal life, so she may be able 319 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: to continue. I don't know, would have to see, but Clay, 320 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: this is where everyone's going to start pointing and saying, ah, 321 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 3: is she going to flip on Trump? 322 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 4: Now? 323 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,239 Speaker 3: Is that a part of this deal that keeps her 324 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: from having to face even a day in jail? 325 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: And does it even matter? 326 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: I think the discussion we have with Ted Cruz yesterday, 327 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 3: he was basically like, look, they're gotta find him guilty. 328 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 3: Probably they're gonna railroad him, but they're not gonna throw 329 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: them in prison, and he's gonna win the election. 330 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: It's quite a story. Uh happened? It is an incredible story. 331 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: And also the more I think about it, the. 332 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: Less I think anybody's gonna care about what happen there 333 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,479 Speaker 2: that haven't already made up their mind about Trump and 334 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 2: Biden and suddenly having a case where you're charging him 335 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 2: and it's a Banana Republic case in Washington, DC. I 336 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 2: don't think that many people are going to change the 337 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: way that they're going to vote, because they already have 338 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: an opinion of Trump and they already have an opinion 339 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: of Biden. 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And I understand a lot of you 362 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: out there, like I don't believe any polls. 363 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: I okay, I get it. This came out this morning, Buck. 364 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: It is a poll Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Michigan, 365 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 2: and Nevada. The idea is these are the seven most 366 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 2: swing states of the swing state universe. This is from Bloomberg. 367 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: So this is not some you know like MAGA inc. 368 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: Pole. 369 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: This is an independent poll from Bloomberg and Morning Consult. 370 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: I believe so these are two entities that are not 371 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 2: designed to be favorable towards Republicans. Here are the numbers. 372 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 2: Georgia Trump up five, Arizona Trump up four, Wisconsin Trump 373 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: up two, Pennsylvania Trump up one, North Carolina, Trump up four, 374 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: Michigan dead even, Nevada Biden plus three. So of the 375 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: seven in swing states, according to this morning's Morning Consult 376 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: and Bloomberg poll, Trump is up in five of them. 377 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 2: Trump would only need buck to win Georgia, Arizona obviously 378 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: has to keep North Carolina. They're counting that as a 379 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: swingto swing state, but one of Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin 380 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: in order to become president of the United States. Do 381 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: you buy the swing state polls as accurately representative of 382 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 2: what the election would look like if it were to 383 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: occur today, or are you questioning of them? By the way, 384 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 2: that also for all of you out there, if some 385 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: of you are listening and living in those states, do 386 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: you buy those numbers eight hundred two eight two to 387 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 2: eight eight two. 388 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 3: I think they're a little high, but I do buy 389 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 3: that overall. 390 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: Right now, I think that Trump would if the election 391 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: were happening today, I would bet on how to win. 392 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 3: I would bet Trump would be able to beat Biden 393 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: in this swing states that determine the election. I mean, 394 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 3: let's be clear, that's what this is really all about. 395 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: The part of this that I have to keep reminding myself, 396 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 3: and maybe that's why I keep saying it to our 397 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: millions of listener brothers and sisters across the country. Here 398 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: is the elections a year away, and the anti Trump 399 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 3: campaign has not really unfolded yet, right like the attack ads, 400 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: the constant drumbeat of the insurrection, all this other stuff. 401 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: I mean, here can we do? 402 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: Rachel Maddow, for example, kind of giving us a little 403 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 3: bit of a sense of what we can expect. Here 404 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: the biggest ratings draw still over at MSNBC. Rachel Maddow. 405 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: Here she is saying, if Trump wins the election, there 406 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 3: will be no more elections. 407 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 5: You mention Trump, is there no one in the party 408 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 5: they can find to put up for the next election 409 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 5: besides this criminal? 410 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 6: The Republican Party right now has to make a decision, 411 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 6: and it's their decision to make. We have party processes 412 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 6: for a reason. But ultimately, if you listen to what 413 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 6: Trump is saying, you don't just sort of regard him 414 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 6: as as a spectacle, but you will listen to what 415 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 6: he's saying. He's basically portraying a future for America if 416 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 6: he is put back in the White House in which 417 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 6: we don't have another election after that because the elections 418 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 6: are all rigged, that the democratic process can't be trusted, 419 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 6: that Congress should just work for him, the Justice Department 420 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 6: should just work for him. That's a strong man form 421 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 6: of government. 422 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: That he canceled the news like things are done. 423 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 6: That he wants to put MSNBC on trial for treason 424 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 6: so that he can execute this. 425 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay. 426 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 3: I think at the end she obviously was trying to 427 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 3: be I think she was just trying to be facetious 428 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 3: and get a little crazy with it. But Clay, there's 429 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: a contingent of the Democrat Party and it's large. When 430 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: I say contingent, I mean there are a lot of 431 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: Democrats who have bought into this narrative that if Donald 432 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 3: Trump brought to win again, it is the last election 433 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 3: we will have. And this goes to what their pitch 434 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 3: is going to be, and it's all just a version 435 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: of if Donald Trump wins, democracy ends, and that's gonna 436 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 3: be the ads, that's gonna be the insurrection talk, all 437 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 3: of it. I don't know how much that will really 438 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: move the needle, though. This goes to what we see 439 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: in the polls. Is it able to change those numbers 440 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 3: just a few points in those key swing states or 441 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: is there a degree of fatigue with it all? 442 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: Too? 443 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 6: Like? 444 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 3: Are people starting to recognize the world hasn't end. The 445 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: world didn't end when Trump was in office for us 446 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: actually a lot better than it is with Joe Biden. 447 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: The world didn't end when Trump was president for four years, 448 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 3: So why would an end if he was president for 449 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: another four years? 450 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, that was Rachel Maddow on The View, 451 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 2: which had to be an all time collection of stupidity, 452 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 2: and we just shared one clip for you. I really 453 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: do think that they're going to spend billions and billions 454 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: of dollars both sides because of the amount of money 455 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: that's going to be raised. And I don't know that 456 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: anybody's gonna get moved. And I said, and I think 457 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: if the election were happening to Trump would win. 458 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: I really do. 459 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 2: And ultimately I think if Trump can focus on the economy, 460 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 2: Buck I flagged this because so many of you out 461 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: there are experiencing this right now. The mortgage thirty year 462 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: rate just hit eight percent. And here's this is from 463 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: Kelly Evans at CNBC. I think I retweeted this this 464 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 2: morning too. If you are buying a four hundred thousand 465 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: dollar house with twenty percent down, that would cost you 466 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: one thousand dollars more per month than it did. 467 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: Two years ago. 468 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,239 Speaker 2: So you're buying a four hundred k house, which is 469 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: I think around what the average home in America costs now. 470 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: So this is and that's a high number because of 471 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: inflation and everything else. But a four hundred thousand dollar 472 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: house twenty percent down, you're paying twelve thousand more dollars 473 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: a year for the exact same house because of mortgage rates. 474 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: I think Trump just has to hammer that because this 475 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 2: is what biden economics has done, Bidenomics for so many 476 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: people out there, and I think buck a lot of 477 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: people go back to now, the Trump years and before 478 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: COVID January of twenty twenty. I don't know that America 479 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: has ever been in a better position than we were 480 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 2: in January of twenty twenty. All time low unemployment, virtually 481 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: no inflation. Mortgage rates were two and a half percent, 482 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: three percent all over the nation. A lot of you 483 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: who were fortunate enough to get those rates. I'm one 484 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: of them. I don't want to pay my mortgage off. 485 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: Why would I? Because I've got a two and a 486 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: half percent mortgage and when inflation is running pretty regularly 487 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: at twice that I basically got free money. I feel 488 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: like we've got the house that we need for our 489 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 2: family right now. 490 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: But a lot of you out there don't. 491 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: And you don't feel like you don't have a big 492 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: enough house, you don't have the right school district you 493 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: would like to move and buck a lot of you thought, hey, 494 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to wait a little while, and you've never 495 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: seen mortgage rates increase as quickly as they have. So 496 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: Biden has failed when it comes to making life better 497 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: for the average American family out there. And I think 498 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: that registers on an incredibly compelling level if Trump remember 499 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: back in the day when Clinton one in ninety two, 500 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 2: what was James Carvill's message, It's the economy stupid, It's 501 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: the economy stupid. Bidenomics is a failure. I think it's 502 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: a huge, forced, unforced error for that they tried to 503 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: label biden economic Bidenomics as a thing when it's a 504 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: disaster for average people. 505 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 3: Here's what I think, and this is why the recent 506 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 3: Biden appearances with United Autoworkers Union and you're going to 507 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 3: see more of this. Bidenomics is not something that has 508 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: been good for the country. But they're going to make 509 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: the pitch that Bidenomics is good for certain voting constituencies, 510 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: that they're people that have gotten their piece of the 511 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 3: pie from the excess spending that the Biden administration has 512 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: in whatever ways it can try to extend the treasury 513 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 3: as almost their own personal credit card. I mean, they're 514 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: basically but this is the whole thing behind the steam loans, right, 515 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 3: trying to use the power of government to buy off 516 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: certain constituencies so that you will have their votes when 517 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 3: the time comes. In that respect, Bidenomics may be a 518 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: useful political tool for them, but in the aggregate for 519 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 3: the middle class, which Joe Biden pretends to be obsessed 520 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: with and also pretends to be like some long standing 521 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 3: part of even though yeah, guy's got a lot of houses. 522 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: I think he's got more houses than socialist Bernie Sanders, 523 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: who has three houses, which is what all good socialists 524 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 3: should have. But I think that Bidenomics is also going 525 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 3: to be something that as people start to see the 526 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 3: way household debt is piling up and the bankruptcy, that's 527 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: when people started a little scared. Right, Inflation is troubling. 528 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 3: Running out of money and declaring bankruptcy is when things 529 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 3: really hit home for people when you see those numbers 530 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 3: start to get higher, and they are going to be 531 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: getting higher because of the high interest rates, because of 532 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 3: the inflation that came from the overspending. And this is 533 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 3: where we are. 534 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 2: By the way, fifty eight percent of American households now 535 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: owned stockbuck that's the highest of all time. You look 536 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: at the stock market when Joe Biden came in to 537 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 2: today three plus years, the average person has not made 538 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: money in the stock market either. It used to be 539 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: only cared about that if you're wealthy with four oh 540 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: one k's. With so many people out there with their investments, 541 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: their retirement funds, fifty eight percent have stocks. The Biden 542 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: economy has not been good for anybody. But I think 543 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: that we're a record high for people who own stocks. 544 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: I think that's going to register too. 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That you didn't here on the show, 576 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: get podcast extras in the Clay and Buck podcast feed, 577 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: find it on the iheartapp or wherever you get your podcasts, 578 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: and welcome back. 579 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: Everybody eight hundred two two two ahu on those phone lines. 580 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: We have had RFK Junior on the show before, and 581 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: we here in the in Clay and Buck world very 582 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: much agree with his stance on COVID. He's not the 583 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: only one who holds that stance, and we certainly were 584 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 3: there early on in this whole process. I still remember 585 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 3: the first time producer Mark told me, hey, you're not 586 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: the only one who thinks that mass idiotic. There's this 587 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: sports guy, hell of sports. His name is Klay Travis, 588 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: and I was like, sports what? 589 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: And then we had him on and that was the 590 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: first time I ever talked to Clay. 591 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: It was actually he came on to my radio show 592 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: to be like, yes, sports should be open, masks do nothing. 593 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: This is idiocy, and I was like, Uh, this fellow 594 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: knows some things. 595 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: So RFK Junior is somebody who's good on that. Now 596 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 3: he's running as a third party candidate, as is Cornell West, 597 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,239 Speaker 3: which is something we should discuss a little bit more, 598 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: I think coming up here, because I do believe that 599 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: it is time to get very machiavellian in this election cycle. Yeah, 600 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 3: Democrats did the last time Democrats put on their Machiavelli hats. 601 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: They didn't think twice about it. They did whatever they 602 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: could to rig to you name it, to rig the system, 603 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 3: to tilt the system, to fill in the blank. Right, 604 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: we need to think of ways legally, of course, to 605 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 3: push the system in our favor, and Cornell West may 606 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 3: open up that opportunity. So RFK Junior Clay was on 607 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 3: a on a podcast and he was talking to the 608 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: podcast host they I believe it was set in a 609 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 3: barber shop because I was watching the clip this morning, 610 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 3: and they asked him about his feelings on reparations, and 611 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: RFK Junior said that he is in favor of and 612 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 3: a pretty extensive range of reparations. Uh. And I think 613 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: that this is certainly going to be a problem for 614 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 3: him with voters on the right. But maybe then that's 615 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: a good thing because maybe now he'll actually pull them 616 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 3: more voters from the Democrat side. Right, It's it's a 617 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 3: little bit, it's it's not easy. 618 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: It's a little a. 619 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 3: Little bit of a exercise in reading the tea leaves 620 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 3: to see how that would happen. But reparation support, that 621 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 3: is a that is a no go for anybody on 622 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 3: the right, as far as I can tell you know, 623 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 3: it should end any body out there, in my opinions, 624 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 3: willingness to vote for RFK Junior. 625 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: If you were sitting around and you thought to yourself, well, 626 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: I kind of don't like Trump, and I want to 627 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: have a protest vote. If you're voting for RFK Junior, 628 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 2: reparations are insanely dumb. I mean, that is a position 629 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 2: to advance. That is basically the foundation of identity politics. 630 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: So that is a deal breaker, I think for anyone 631 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: out there. Even if you agreed, and I do think 632 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: RFK Junior was right on COVID. There's a Zogbie poll 633 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: that came out today, Buck that has a four way breakdown, 634 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 2: and if Trump, Biden, RFK Junior, and Cornell West are 635 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: all in the race, Trump wins the race according to 636 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 2: this Zogbi pole. So I would encourage people out there 637 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: I think Cornell West, if you give money to him, 638 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 2: I think that a lot of leftists will be supporting 639 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,719 Speaker 2: him that will pull off of Biden. 640 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 3: This is a little reminiscent of Jill's Stein in twenty sixteen, 641 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: who you can go back and read analyzes of this 642 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 3: from the left. Now, maybe people on the left wanted 643 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 3: to believe this because they wanted to believe that it's 644 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 3: the only way that Donald Trump could have beaten Hillary Clinton. 645 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: But if you look at the numbers, Jill Stein was 646 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: certainly a problem for Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen, even 647 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 3: though how many people even remember that she was running 648 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: at Green Party candidate and. 649 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 2: They got the Green Party off the ballot in twenty 650 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: twenty you couldn't vote green parts right and in swinget states. 651 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 3: They realized, they realized what an issue that would be. 652 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 3: So this is what I mean by you have to 653 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 3: get fully machiavellian here for this election, because that is 654 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 3: the whole game that Democrats are going to be playing. 655 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 3: You know, we like to think that politics. When I 656 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 3: say we like to think, I think that deep down 657 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 3: we wished that politics was I have grand ideas for 658 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 3: this great nation. He has or they have grand ideas 659 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 3: for this nation made the best ideas win? Well, actually 660 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 3: it comes down to, like how much money did Mark 661 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 3: Zuckerberg give to get out the vote organizations that are 662 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 3: working almost exclusively to help Democrats get registered people registered 663 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 3: and vote. You know, what are they doing on the 664 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 3: mail in balloting in different states? What ballot harvesting operations 665 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 3: do they have? That's what actually can determine who ends 666 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 3: up being president and what third party candidates are in 667 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 3: the mix. 668 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: That may. 669 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 3: I mean I should know this top of my head. 670 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 3: You made what was it twelve thousand votes in Georgia 671 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 3: was the official difference? I mean like eleven ballot and 672 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 3: sixty seven or something. Yeah, so we'll call it about 673 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 3: twelve thousand votes in Georgia. When you have a state 674 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 3: like that that is so pivotal being determined by twelve 675 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 3: thousand votes, you know which you could you could fit 676 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 3: all those votes and then some in like Madison Square Garden. 677 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 3: That means that you have to pull every lever you 678 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 3: can and pull out every pull out all the stops. 679 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: It's it's kitchen sync time. 680 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 3: And I certainly hope that the Trump team is strategizing 681 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 3: to that effect, because you know, the Democrats are going 682 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 3: to do everything. 683 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: Zogbie poll by the way, forty three percent Trump in 684 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 2: a four way forty two percent, Biden thirteen percent, RFK 685 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: Junior four percent, Carnel West. Now that's obviously not state poles. 686 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,479 Speaker 2: I shared the swing state polls with you. But Buck, 687 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: if Trump were to win the outright popular vote. 688 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: He's going to win the election. 689 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 2: Trump won in sixteen what losing by two and a 690 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: half or three points to Hillary Clinton nationwide. So if 691 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: he were to win the outright popular vote, he would 692 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 2: win comfortably in the electoral college as well. That's what 693 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: Zogby says today, if that were a four way race, 694 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: and we'll play you as some of that audio it 695 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: may have been from as recently as July from RFK Junior. 696 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: When we come back reason enough not to vote for him,