Speaker 1: Actually you're looking field touchdown, miamis water drawn? What is up,
Speaker 1: Dolphans And welcome to the Drive Time Podcast, part of
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins official podcast network, covering your team, your were,
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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday and I am your host, Travis Wingfield,
Speaker 1: and as always, I am here to bring you your
Speaker 1: daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. On today's show, we
Speaker 1: are going to welcome in the venerable my guest today,
Speaker 1: Brett Coleman, the host of the Film Room on YouTube.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to him about this Dolphins defense, the personnel,
Speaker 1: the coaching, the scheme and all that married up to
Speaker 1: make a top six scoring defense this year in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. We'll talk about that, get a little
Speaker 1: bit into the Shrine Bowl. Dolphins will be coaching at
Speaker 1: that with a few coaches, as well as the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: All of that and more on this Tuesday, January the
Speaker 1: nineteenth edition of the Drive Time Podcast, and the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl starts next week. As rosters are being finalized with
Speaker 1: Jim Naggy, the director of the Senior Bowl. He has
Speaker 1: been tweeting out position groups for both teams, one of course,
Speaker 1: that the Dolphins will be coaching in that game on Saturday,
Speaker 1: January thirty one, the other for the Carolina Panthers, who
Speaker 1: also coached the Senior Bowl. Plus, since we last talked,
Speaker 1: it was announced the Dolphins defensive backs coach Gerald Alexander,
Speaker 1: linebackers coach Anthony Campanelli, and Brendan Farrell and assistant coaching
Speaker 1: staff up on the defensive line will be coaching this
Speaker 1: week at the Shrine Bowl. And I just can't get
Speaker 1: enough of that type of news as we continue to
Speaker 1: get good up close looks at prospects with projections in
Speaker 1: all rounds of this coming April's draft, and it's especially
Speaker 1: beneficial in an off season that promises to, like last offseason,
Speaker 1: be a bit different than we're used to. We're looking
Speaker 1: at the Ryan Bowl roster go back. Every single year
Speaker 1: you can point to one or two guys on that
Speaker 1: list that winds up in Pro Bowls perpetually each season,
Speaker 1: So there's definitely some players to keep an eye on
Speaker 1: at that Shrine Bowl. Of course, last year we drafted
Speaker 1: Malcolm Perry in the seventh round, who had one touch
Speaker 1: in the Shrine Game and ran it for fifty two
Speaker 1: yards for a touchdown, So keep an eye on that
Speaker 1: coming up this weekend. Speaking of the Senior Bowl and
Speaker 1: the Combine, the different looks of getting a look at
Speaker 1: prospects this offseason, Albert Brier wrote a story over the
Speaker 1: weekend about some potential changes to the Combine that we
Speaker 1: could see this year, with the biggest one being the
Speaker 1: absence of a central gathering place, i e. Indianapolis, So
Speaker 1: check that out up on Sports Illustrated dot com. Albert
Speaker 1: Brier wrote the story, and before we get to my guest,
Speaker 1: how about that Divisional round weekend I think dubbed the
Speaker 1: best football weekend for the National Football League of the
Speaker 1: season because you typically get four pretty good games, at
Speaker 1: least three or two really good games. I thought we
Speaker 1: had too that were just you know what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: There were three game games that I was really cluded on,
Speaker 1: the defensive battle between Buffalo and Baltimore. I can watch
Speaker 1: a seventeen thirteen game every single day of the week
Speaker 1: and leave the fifty to forty battles somewhere else. Those
Speaker 1: are not for me. I love the fact that every aspect,
Speaker 1: every element, every play is important. Defense, special team's offense,
Speaker 1: coaching decisions, all that stuff. I love when every single
Speaker 1: play is magnified to the utmost importance, and I think
Speaker 1: you only get that in those defensive battles. As the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills take that one and wind up heading to
Speaker 1: the a f C Championship game where they're gonna face
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, who pulled off that late when
Speaker 1: there without their starting quarterback in the lineup. Chad Henny
Speaker 1: man on that third and fourteen rush where he picked
Speaker 1: up thirteen and a half yards before the fourth and
Speaker 1: one conversion that are Tyreek Hill, which was the same
Speaker 1: looking play the Chiefs ran against the Dolphins back in
Speaker 1: Week fourteen to convert and move the chains and eventually
Speaker 1: get that field goal that put us down by two
Speaker 1: scores in that game. But man, that was a fun
Speaker 1: game to watch because with with Henny and they're making
Speaker 1: those big plays, and the and the Browns offense, you
Speaker 1: just kind of always thought that ba Aaker Mayfield is
Speaker 1: going to find a way to get that offense into
Speaker 1: the end zone and get that late lead, get that
Speaker 1: late steal of the victory there. It didn't happen. Now
Speaker 1: we have Kansas City and Buffalo in the a f
Speaker 1: C Championship game. Over on the NFC side, that game
Speaker 1: from the Packers and Rams just never really felt like
Speaker 1: it was in danger for the Packers, who right now
Speaker 1: at this point to me seemed like not a flawless team.
Speaker 1: Nobody's a flawless team, but man, they are clicking on
Speaker 1: all cylinders. And then the Tampa Bay and New Orleans game.
Speaker 1: What a career for Drew Brees if this is the
Speaker 1: end for him. Of course, he said he's gonna make
Speaker 1: his decision at a later date and announced that when
Speaker 1: he has that decision for us, But that was some
Speaker 1: of the speculation beforehand. And if this is the end
Speaker 1: for Drew Brees, what a frigging career it was for him.
Speaker 1: As Tom Brady and the Buccaneers go on to face
Speaker 1: the Packers in that NFC championship game. That's a good
Speaker 1: looking slate of championship games next Sunday, let's go ahead
Speaker 1: and finish up here and get to my guest for
Speaker 1: this podcast. It is, after all, a Dolphins podcast here,
Speaker 1: the Drivetime podcast on the Miami Dolphins Podcast Network. Let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and welcome him, Brett Coleman and writing show
Speaker 1: gunn Now on the Drive Time Podcast is one of
Speaker 1: the best analysts in the game. You can find his
Speaker 1: work on his YouTube channel. It's called The Film Room.
Speaker 1: Over a quarter million subscribers, getting close to three hundred
Speaker 1: thousand subscribers. That's crazy. Make sure you hit that subscribe
Speaker 1: button after this. On his YouTube channel, he is Brett Coleman. Brett,
Speaker 1: what's up man? Long time no talk? Yeah, happy to
Speaker 1: be back. I haven't talked Dolphins in a while. I
Speaker 1: think it was it might have even been before last
Speaker 1: draft we last talked. I think, I think so somewhere
Speaker 1: around there. I think we were talking about to a lot. Ironically,
Speaker 1: that was our guy. That was definitely our guy, and
Speaker 1: we we got him. He's here, he's signed, sealed, deliver.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna talk about the other side of the
Speaker 1: football here today because and before we get into this,
Speaker 1: you had a tweet back in early September that was perfect.
Speaker 1: It was it was absolutely perfect. We're gonna cover that
Speaker 1: here in just one second. But first I want to
Speaker 1: have the the audience here kind of get to know you.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna hopefully have you on more, Brett.
Speaker 1: I would love to talk to you more because I
Speaker 1: really respect what you do. He does these these full
Speaker 1: feature episodes where he goes into and breaks it down
Speaker 1: and gives you both sides of the story. It's very
Speaker 1: very analytical, very objective. It's the film Room on YouTube, Brett.
Speaker 1: It's it's my favorite YouTube channel there is personally. I
Speaker 1: mean I watched, I watch them all. I learned a lot.
Speaker 1: That's the number one thing I look for, and football
Speaker 1: content is learning. So I'm curious, Brett, where, like tell
Speaker 1: me your origin story because I know you told me
Speaker 1: a little bit about you know, how the channel got
Speaker 1: popular and what you were doing before that. Like, just
Speaker 1: give us a little bit of background to who you
Speaker 1: are and where you got or how you got to
Speaker 1: the stage of your career. Yeah. I actually, um, I
Speaker 1: started out working in the production side over at NFL Network.
Speaker 1: I was there for five years, and the channels started
Speaker 1: out as kind of a proof of concept for my
Speaker 1: producers there. I was not intending to actually be, you know,
Speaker 1: the presenter of it. I wanted to produce basically these
Speaker 1: kinds of segments, but you know, for La Dati and
Speaker 1: Tomlinson or you know, Willie to get any any one
Speaker 1: of those, uh, you know, established Hall of fame, you know,
Speaker 1: NFL players. I wanted to just basically, like you're was
Speaker 1: the film here, the stats, you know, let's do deep
Speaker 1: dives into topics A, B, and see and how they
Speaker 1: all relate to each other, you know, fifteen minutes segments
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Um. And the feedback that I
Speaker 1: got there was absolutely true, which is that format is
Speaker 1: not great for television, which is more bite size type content. Uh.
Speaker 1: And so but these episodes that I was making just
Speaker 1: show my producers like, hey, here's kind of what I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: so you can kind of visualize it. Those ended up
Speaker 1: getting popular out of nowhere. Uh. And I would only
Speaker 1: put one out maybe every two or three months. If
Speaker 1: I had an idea that I wanted to pitch and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden I had eleven thousand subscribers
Speaker 1: or something. I barely even did. And my wife looked
Speaker 1: at me one day at least my Now, why if
Speaker 1: she wasn't my wife at the time, and she said,
Speaker 1: you know, you're not even trying here, and you're building
Speaker 1: a following, what would happen if you actually tried and
Speaker 1: did this full time? Uh? And Uh? I spent three
Speaker 1: months building up you know, a catalog of content to
Speaker 1: release in draft season. I think it was seen draft.
Speaker 1: My last day NFL Network was the day before the
Speaker 1: Patriots Falcon Super Bowl. Dove into YouTube full time after that,
Speaker 1: and it's it's steadily grown ever since then. So you
Speaker 1: said something there that is really intriguing to me, and
Speaker 1: we're getting, you know, kind of into the weeds here.
Speaker 1: But you said that your wife or then girlfriend, now
Speaker 1: wife was kind of saying, hey, look you might have
Speaker 1: something here. I think for most people in our positions, Brett,
Speaker 1: maybe the wife was not so on board. Like, for instance,
Speaker 1: I used to have a website where I evaluated every
Speaker 1: pass from every quarterback, every drop back, and I built
Speaker 1: this thing. I designed it and put it all up
Speaker 1: and it was like a six month long project. And
Speaker 1: I would go upstairs into my little office and get
Speaker 1: to work, and my wife is like, there he goes
Speaker 1: for three wasted hours. We're not gonna ever get that
Speaker 1: time back again, or you know whatever. Maybe it wasn't
Speaker 1: as encouraging. That's that's awesome to hear that you had
Speaker 1: that and it worked out for you successful, And like
Speaker 1: I said, man, best in the game. I I learned
Speaker 1: so much from watching your stuff. And that's why I
Speaker 1: wanted to bring you on here today to talk about
Speaker 1: this Dolphins defense because I think I referred to a
Speaker 1: video you made last year regarding some free agent acquisition
Speaker 1: or some draftable player, and you broke it down in
Speaker 1: a way that was so beyond what we normally see
Speaker 1: from just the box score or like what you know,
Speaker 1: generic ESPN level, like mainstream type of you know, scouting
Speaker 1: Prognosis might say you gave us factual inside looks at
Speaker 1: the stuff. So I wanted to to bring you on
Speaker 1: talk about those Dolphins defense because if you go back
Speaker 1: to September Bright, I've got the tweet right here, it
Speaker 1: was September seventh at two o'clock and you said it
Speaker 1: was you retweeted somebody who asked, what's your possibly most
Speaker 1: out there prediction for NFL season that you're actually half
Speaker 1: confident in, and you said, Dolphins have a top seven
Speaker 1: or eight defense and have a winning season. And in
Speaker 1: this threat, I was looking at it just now, and
Speaker 1: you actually got some more positive feedback than I was expecting.
Speaker 1: Of course, there was something that called you crazy and
Speaker 1: an absolute ludotic for saying that, But it turns out
Speaker 1: Miami had the sixth ranks scoring defense one ten games
Speaker 1: this year. How did that prediction come into your mind?
Speaker 1: And how do you think it played out that the
Speaker 1: course of the season. It just to seemed logical to me,
Speaker 1: because when you looked at their last offseason, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they're coming off the first year under Flores, who ran
Speaker 1: a very Patriot style defense, a lot of man coverage, UM,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of really nice creative inventor invented
Speaker 1: pressure packages. UM, a lot of multiple multiplicity in his fronts,
Speaker 1: but mostly sticking to odd fronts rather than even fronts,
Speaker 1: with a lot of three down stuff with linebackers moving
Speaker 1: all over the place and dbs and man coverage. And
Speaker 1: I looked at that and I was like, Okay, it works,
Speaker 1: but a it takes a while for a defense to
Speaker 1: really hit its stride in that kind of system because
Speaker 1: you need the right talent to run it. Next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, you know your Parsavian, who I think was
Speaker 1: hurt in the first year pretty significantly. You pair him.
Speaker 1: You bring in Byron Jones. Uh, you draft a kid
Speaker 1: out of Texas, Brandon Jones. I believe his name is that.
Speaker 1: I really like, you know, you bringing in Kyle van
Speaker 1: Noy knows this kind of system backwards and forwards, and
Speaker 1: they you know, they had some other young draft picks
Speaker 1: that I really really liked, um Strowbridge. I saw him
Speaker 1: down to the Senior Bowl last year. Venito Jones saw
Speaker 1: him the Senior Bowl. I like both of them a lot.
Speaker 1: Ray Kwon Davis out of Bamba. I thought it was
Speaker 1: an absolute animal. And they got him to play their
Speaker 1: nose position that turned out to, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: picked up where he left off this year. He was
Speaker 1: phenomenal for them. Uh. And then they still had Wilkins
Speaker 1: from the year before, who I think is a really
Speaker 1: good three technique but actually overperformed what I what I thought.
Speaker 1: But he ended up being a very good addition as well.
Speaker 1: And so I looked at this defense and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you got really good corners, they could play man coverage.
Speaker 1: You have a front seven that can bring pressure and
Speaker 1: wave after wave after wave in a system that is
Speaker 1: going to emphasize those two things. What's the missing piece here? Nothing?
Speaker 1: So I was like, this is gonna be a top
Speaker 1: ten defense just on talent and scheme fit alone. And
Speaker 1: if you put Tua or Ryan whoever was playing quarterback
Speaker 1: with some of the weapons that they had that I
Speaker 1: really liked. When there was Parker Gaziki, any of those guys,
Speaker 1: I was like, there's really not a whole lot of
Speaker 1: holes on this team. Plus there in a your division
Speaker 1: this year, it just seemed completely logical to me that
Speaker 1: they were gonna be a great defense and overall really
Speaker 1: good team. And lo and behold they were. I had
Speaker 1: Miami down for ten and six. But of course if
Speaker 1: I say that, then you know it can't be trusted
Speaker 1: because I'm wearing a dolphin's hat right now as I
Speaker 1: talked to you on this podcast. So that's why we
Speaker 1: got trying to get someone else maybe a little more
Speaker 1: objective here on the podcast. And I felt the same
Speaker 1: way you did, especially defensively, with the things they wanted
Speaker 1: to do on defense and the pieces they had to match.
Speaker 1: And I think, like you mentioned off the top, that
Speaker 1: all started with xaviing Howard, who was an All Pro
Speaker 1: pretty much any publication you look at, and the one
Speaker 1: that actually counts the a p AL Pro First Team
Speaker 1: All Pro out their cornerback. But man Brett I thought
Speaker 1: Byron Jones was you know, he was damn good in
Speaker 1: his own right and doesn't have the ball production of
Speaker 1: xaviing House. That's why he doesn't get the maybe the
Speaker 1: big time publicity. But when you have those two cornerbacks
Speaker 1: that can play that way on the outside, like to
Speaker 1: explain to the fans what that does as far as
Speaker 1: how it frees up the ability to zero pressure. Maybe
Speaker 1: it frees up more flexibility for Bobby can Eric Roe,
Speaker 1: who were pretty much interchangeable at times this year. What
Speaker 1: is those two cornerbacks being on the field pretty much
Speaker 1: every snap do for the rest of the defense. You know,
Speaker 1: if you have at least two corners that you know
Speaker 1: can hold up for two seconds, and you're throwing a
Speaker 1: zero pressure at someone, meaning you got no safeties, the
Speaker 1: no matter what, you're gonna be overwhelming the past protection
Speaker 1: of one extra guy who's going to get there in
Speaker 1: two seconds. As long as the dvs can hold up
Speaker 1: in that window, you're either gonna force to throw away,
Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna force the quarterback to try to
Speaker 1: run to create something off schedule, or he's gonna have
Speaker 1: to throw a ball perfectly under pressure deep down the field,
Speaker 1: which is easier said than done. It's it's very hard
Speaker 1: to beat that look unless you have something special for it.
Speaker 1: We saw the Bills had something special for it. I
Speaker 1: think it was weeks seven team where they brought in
Speaker 1: a wide receiver and protected with eight. Uh, and then
Speaker 1: you had John Brown one on one and I think
Speaker 1: it was Byron that gave up a touchdown on it.
Speaker 1: But to be fair to him, he was squatting on
Speaker 1: the route as if was gonna be thrown in two seconds,
Speaker 1: because that's what they're used to. And then John Brown
Speaker 1: just kept running. So there's ways to beat it, but
Speaker 1: you have to have a specific, perfect play call for it.
Speaker 1: Most teams did not. That's why they kept forcing turnovers,
Speaker 1: that's why they kept picking guys off, forcing fumbles. Was
Speaker 1: getting all these crazy sacks just because he was coming
Speaker 1: on blocks because they schemed a butt for him. And
Speaker 1: it's such a nasty defensive look that, honestly, most teams
Speaker 1: don't know how to handle. Uh. And they just did
Speaker 1: it week after week after week, and then as we
Speaker 1: saw the season go on, they started to show it
Speaker 1: and then drop out of it and like and then
Speaker 1: they kind of forced teams into Okay, well now we're
Speaker 1: just gonna protect with seven or eight. Then you drop
Speaker 1: out have seven and coverage against two receivers, there's nothing
Speaker 1: there and that ends the play by itself as well.
Speaker 1: So just kind of the mind games and how they
Speaker 1: built around those blitzes specifically because they had the corners
Speaker 1: to make them work. I thought was just fantastic to watch,
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Like you mentioned the disguise and
Speaker 1: the coverage, and you mentioned that, you know, forcing them
Speaker 1: in the match for textion and then you drop out
Speaker 1: seven in coverage. The best example of that was a
Speaker 1: pick that Xavian he had tended this year so that
Speaker 1: you can pick your poison there, but he picked against
Speaker 1: the Chargers and Justin Herbert where you know, they played
Speaker 1: man coverage a lot in the game and then they
Speaker 1: flip it and go cover three and he's squatting reading
Speaker 1: the quarterback jumps out of that or drives out of
Speaker 1: that zone and gets a big time pick there in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, and you know, you look at Justin Herbert,
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, Jimmy Garoppolo, I'm probably missing a couple of
Speaker 1: others had their worst statistical days against this Dolphins defense,
Speaker 1: and you know, is that something that is sustainable? Do
Speaker 1: you build upon that? Like if the scheme is what
Speaker 1: the scheme is, how do you as a coach continue
Speaker 1: to kind of revamp that or update that, are build
Speaker 1: on that and continue to have that success. Like it's
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to like get to two
Speaker 1: ahead of myself here, but as their ways where an
Speaker 1: offense can say, oh, they do this, here's how we
Speaker 1: counter that and beat that, and how does Miami continue to,
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, build on top of that and keep
Speaker 1: it going. It's really all about self scouting, which luckily
Speaker 1: for Dolphins fans, you have a coaching staff that's very,
Speaker 1: very good at that in terms of, Okay, assuming they're
Speaker 1: gonna keep most of the talent going in the next year,
Speaker 1: which I think they are just looking at contracts and
Speaker 1: personnelverything like that, they're probably gonna return most, if not all,
Speaker 1: of the the same guys for next year. So you need
Speaker 1: to have a coach that's very good at looking at
Speaker 1: their trends of what they called last year. So they
Speaker 1: were at man coverage at which was tops in the league.
Speaker 1: Their blitz rate was also top five. I believe it
Speaker 1: was fifth at forty. So if they look at those trends,
Speaker 1: they know that offensive coaches around the league are gonna
Speaker 1: look at those trends too, and so they need to
Speaker 1: start building in other looks off of when they were
Speaker 1: showing Blitz, off of when they were showing Man and
Speaker 1: then kind of introduced those next season to make people
Speaker 1: think that they're gonna just keep rolling out the same
Speaker 1: old stuff. And then you hit him with the CounterPunch.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the pick from Zavian against Herbert, exactly the
Speaker 1: same thing. You know, you show one thing, next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, Zavians popping out over you know, out of
Speaker 1: nowhere in the seam area, picking off justin, uh, completely
Speaker 1: out of left field. I remember that because I watched
Speaker 1: the ends up version of the All twenty two on
Speaker 1: it and I was like, wow, he just literally popped
Speaker 1: in out of nowhere. He didn't even see him. So
Speaker 1: it's it's that kind of stuff. It's about self scouting,
Speaker 1: recognizing the trends of the types of coverages they use,
Speaker 1: the types of fronts they use, the blitz percentages, and
Speaker 1: then just building in little things that show that and
Speaker 1: then do something else to make offensive staffs second guests themselves.
Speaker 1: And then you can also build in some more flexibility
Speaker 1: on top of that based upon the type of I
Speaker 1: guess the type of front seven the Dolphins had this year,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of where I want to go with
Speaker 1: this next question for your Brett, because you mentioned, you know,
Speaker 1: bringing in new pieces this year. We had Kyle van
Speaker 1: Noy was a free agent import, Jerome Baker was in
Speaker 1: his third season with the Dolphins, Andrew van Gigle his
Speaker 1: second season. We Addie Land and Robert to get Shack
Speaker 1: Lawson and Emmanuel Ogball into that mix as well. What
Speaker 1: did you make of this remade linebacker corps and their
Speaker 1: ability to show that pressure in multiple gaps and in
Speaker 1: his or anybody that does it better in terms of
Speaker 1: how this Dolphins defense gives simulated pressure looks in every
Speaker 1: single gap with a quarterback basically having no idea where
Speaker 1: it's coming from. Am I Crazier? Did Van Ginkle make
Speaker 1: at least one great play every single game? Like he
Speaker 1: was always good for one? You know, I remember in
Speaker 1: the in the Chiefs game, you know, he accidentally got
Speaker 1: knocked down and then stood up and then you know,
Speaker 1: just threw his hands in the air and tipped and
Speaker 1: that was a pick, one of the three picks they
Speaker 1: had on the day. But he was always in the
Speaker 1: right place, always at the right time, very rarely made
Speaker 1: mental mistakes, and in this kind of defense, that's really
Speaker 1: what it's about, you know, that whole do your job
Speaker 1: mentality of like, hey, just do what we tell you
Speaker 1: to do and don't miss up your assignment and we're
Speaker 1: probably going to have success as a unit. And they did.
Speaker 1: The only real guys in this defense that I feel
Speaker 1: like freelanced a little bit was Van Noy, just because
Speaker 1: he knows everything about every single role in this system
Speaker 1: and he knew what he could get away with. Uh.
Speaker 1: You actually saw a noticeable don't want to see declined,
Speaker 1: but there was a little bump in the defense when
Speaker 1: he was out, just because he is that kind of
Speaker 1: freelancing X factor in a defense, and I think is
Speaker 1: is very particular about what people do on the field. Um.
Speaker 1: But overall, I loved this whole linebacking court with how
Speaker 1: multiple they were, how discipline they were, um, how creative
Speaker 1: they were, especially Kyle but my god, he I think
Speaker 1: he had his best year as of pro this year,
Speaker 1: and that's saying a lot because he had some pretty
Speaker 1: good years up in New England. And then Baker I
Speaker 1: think has really I mean I liked him coming out
Speaker 1: of college, but he's turned into something else entirely for them.
Speaker 1: This is one of the better linebacking corps I think
Speaker 1: in the league, even though none of them are really
Speaker 1: garnering national attention. But just as a whole, I really
Speaker 1: really like what I see. I typically take notes throughout
Speaker 1: the podcast to kind of give myself from I just
Speaker 1: want to ask you about her, to to interject my
Speaker 1: own thoughts. It's hard for me because you mentioned van Noy,
Speaker 1: who I'm so glad you said that, because this guy
Speaker 1: continuously just he does the work that doesn't show U
Speaker 1: from the box score, and I think that it's very
Speaker 1: valuable what he provides this team, but maybe, like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: doesn't get the national recognition. You mentioned Andrew Van Giggles
Speaker 1: jump from year one to year two watching that guy
Speaker 1: go in and beat blocks, whether it was split zone
Speaker 1: or you have a lead guard pulling in his face,
Speaker 1: and he found a way, you know, at two forty
Speaker 1: two to beat those types of blocks and get in
Speaker 1: there and make an impact in the running game. And
Speaker 1: you also mentioned Jerome Baker, who for my money, is
Speaker 1: just I mean the pressure he puts on opposing passing
Speaker 1: games with his blessing ability in those a gaps, whether
Speaker 1: it's forcing and running back to come pick him up
Speaker 1: or to force the quarterback office spot. I just thought
Speaker 1: all of those guys were invaluable for what they did
Speaker 1: this season, and it helped produce the number one third
Speaker 1: down defense in the NFL, just under conversion against the
Speaker 1: Dolphins defense, and it got the Dolphins twenty nine takeaways,
Speaker 1: which also led the National Football League. One of the
Speaker 1: things that I sometimes I guess worry about in my
Speaker 1: paranoid fan type of perspective Brett is you look at
Speaker 1: some of the great defenses over over time and not
Speaker 1: saying this defense was, you know, the two thousand Ravens
Speaker 1: or the eighty five Bears or the two thousand two Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: But when you have those dominant defensive years, it seems
Speaker 1: like sometimes you can kind of get that that dip
Speaker 1: back down in production because takeaways are difficult to replicate.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to third down defense and takeaways,
Speaker 1: how was Miami inherently able to be so good in
Speaker 1: both those areas and how do they keep that train
Speaker 1: rolling next year? I've always looked at the defense, is
Speaker 1: that that major in turning the ball over. You know
Speaker 1: the teen Bears, the early tens Texans, uh, you know
Speaker 1: Underwage Phillips that just produced a whole bunch of turnovers. Um.
Speaker 1: You know the mid two thousands Bears as well, that
Speaker 1: had a bunch of it. It's it's all about mentality
Speaker 1: and effort, because tipped balls are going to happen. You know,
Speaker 1: random fumbles are going to happen. Like sometimes you don't
Speaker 1: even try to to to put yourself in a perfect position.
Speaker 1: You're just executing a normal assignment in the quarterback just
Speaker 1: doesn't see you and just throws you the ball. Do
Speaker 1: you catch it? Are you there within five yards of
Speaker 1: a tip ball to dive and get it? You know,
Speaker 1: are you in the exact right spot you need to
Speaker 1: be on a fumble to recover it. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of people say, oh, it's about luck. Yeah, it's about luck,
Speaker 1: but you have to have the effort to put yourself
Speaker 1: in position to be lucky. If you're not showing effort,
Speaker 1: if you're not flying to the football, you know, if
Speaker 1: somebody is holding a guy up and you're not punching
Speaker 1: at the ball before the whistle is thrown on four progress,
Speaker 1: guess what you're not You're not gonna four turnovers. So
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're gonna do it every time, but
Speaker 1: every once in a while, if you're punching at the
Speaker 1: ball and every single play, you're gonna pop one out.
Speaker 1: So it's about effort, it's about a swarming mentality, and
Speaker 1: I truly believe that the defenses that are quote unquote
Speaker 1: lucky at getting turnovers make their own luck. Like it's
Speaker 1: that is the difference I think between twenty nine takeaways
Speaker 1: and fifteen is just having the mentality to swarm the ball.
Speaker 1: And from the first day of training camp, but we
Speaker 1: saw these guys they the ball beyond the ground, they
Speaker 1: would sprint over to and pick it up, and it
Speaker 1: just kind of developed that that mindset of the football
Speaker 1: is the most important. Even if the whistle blue, go
Speaker 1: get the football, because you never know at the end
Speaker 1: of the day it might put you in position to
Speaker 1: make a play in that way. I want to go
Speaker 1: ahead and finish up as far as the Dolphins kind
Speaker 1: of defensive roster overview here, because we didn't touch on
Speaker 1: a pair of guys that I think are underrated in
Speaker 1: what they do, and Eric Row and Bobby McCain and
Speaker 1: you know, I've referenced this in the podcast before one time.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah does a great job on the Move the
Speaker 1: Sticks podcast, and he had brought up these principles that
Speaker 1: Belichick had way back when on the Patriots defense, and
Speaker 1: one of the things was that at safety. One of
Speaker 1: his notes was look for converted cornerbacks, guys that can
Speaker 1: they can cover and go back into the safety position
Speaker 1: and also rolling back there and play too high, play
Speaker 1: single high, whatever it might be. And the Dolphins did
Speaker 1: that with Eric Row in twenty nineteen at the fifth
Speaker 1: game of the season, and Bobby McCain began the season
Speaker 1: as a free safety after playing nicol and outside cornerback
Speaker 1: his entire career. What do you make of those two
Speaker 1: guys and how the Dolphins were able to transition these
Speaker 1: two pretty much lifelong cornerbacks into productive safeties. I really
Speaker 1: love how they've kind of carved out very specific roles
Speaker 1: for these guys. Particularly Row, at least for most of
Speaker 1: the year, was the tight end of racer. You know,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey gave him issues, but to be very Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey gives everybody issues. Start really hold that against him.
Speaker 1: For most of the year. He was kind of their
Speaker 1: answer against big body quicker receiving tight ends. And he
Speaker 1: practices against Gisiki every day, so he gets a lot
Speaker 1: of good reps against guys that are that physically talented.
Speaker 1: That's the way. I'm jealous that you get to watch
Speaker 1: and every day because I would love to see the
Speaker 1: practice tape of those two guys jumping forty inches in
Speaker 1: the air after the same ball. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: that's I think a perfect role for him. And then
Speaker 1: McCain talked about a guy that doesn't get enough national credit,
Speaker 1: one of the better free safeties in the league. They
Speaker 1: can also pump down and play in the slot if
Speaker 1: they need him to. Most of the time they didn't,
Speaker 1: but he can absolutely do it. And I think, what's
Speaker 1: what's kind of heartbreaking. I don't want to, you know,
Speaker 1: sour the mood to people listening to podcast too much,
Speaker 1: But when you look at the entire season, there are
Speaker 1: two plays that I think kept Miami from making the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They both happened in the Chiefs game. It was the
Speaker 1: first time McCain got hurt. Tyreek got the ball around
Speaker 1: the edge and uh, he made everybody miss. But McCain
Speaker 1: was not on the field for that one play because
Speaker 1: he had to go out, and then it was the
Speaker 1: this was in like that twenty one point you know,
Speaker 1: scoring frenzy and then a couple of plays later, Uh,
Speaker 1: you have a deep post from Tyreek where again McCain
Speaker 1: got hurt again. Uh. I can't remember if he came
Speaker 1: back in again a second time, but Clayton fled federalm
Speaker 1: I think is Howard pronounced his last name. He was
Speaker 1: in for that one snap. They were playing a two
Speaker 1: high shell, and again it's like his first snap in
Speaker 1: the game. He's not used to Tyreek speed. He takes
Speaker 1: two steps forward, tyreear Tyreek runs I find for a
Speaker 1: deep post touchdown. I guess the coverage that honestly should
Speaker 1: not allow that play and if McCain was in, probably
Speaker 1: would not have allowed that play. And then that's that
Speaker 1: was the difference in the game, was those two touchdowns
Speaker 1: with Tyreek where McCain, unfortunately not even his fault, was
Speaker 1: not on the field. And then when you look at
Speaker 1: the end of the season, if Miami won that game,
Speaker 1: which they probably really would have without those two plays,
Speaker 1: they would have made the playoffs. So I think the
Speaker 1: fact that McCain is that good of a free safety.
Speaker 1: Where him missing two snaps in the season is the
Speaker 1: difference between making the playoffs and not tells you a
Speaker 1: lot about how great he is. And he got dinged
Speaker 1: up later and and played through the injuries and played
Speaker 1: through some of the pain there as well late in
Speaker 1: the season too, So so much respect for that guy.
Speaker 1: He's been a leader here and on this team for
Speaker 1: a long time now, and I know that he has
Speaker 1: the respect of the coaching staff and his teammates alike. So, Brett,
Speaker 1: it sounds like we have a future episode coming up
Speaker 1: on the Film Room, on on the film Room, because
Speaker 1: you love this defense so much. We're gonna get that.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, sometime in the summer for sure. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: probably once we're in May and June and I get
Speaker 1: a little bit more time to actually really really do
Speaker 1: a deep dive. I'm talking like a twenty plus minute
Speaker 1: episode because there's a lot to go over when it
Speaker 1: comes to covering these guys, but uh, they're really fun.
Speaker 1: I think you guys are gonna like it. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: you do that, we'll have to get you on the
Speaker 1: podcast here and promote it and get your takes as
Speaker 1: well to give us some content and give you some
Speaker 1: content as well. Out Brett, we really appreciate your time today, Brett.
Speaker 1: He is the host of the Film Room on YouTube
Speaker 1: at Brett Coleman. That's two tease, two l's and two ends, right, Brett, Yeah,
Speaker 1: trust me, I hear all the different kinds of spellings
Speaker 1: for it. Two good brother, Well, thank you again for
Speaker 1: your time today, man, it's it's good stuff. The Film
Speaker 1: Room on YouTube. And of course Brett Coleman on Twitter,
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Man, I appreciate it. Thanks for having
Speaker 1: me and away he goes every time he comes in
Speaker 1: the podcast here. Every time he speaks, we learned something
Speaker 1: about football. Brett Coleman, The Film Room on YouTube. We'll
Speaker 1: get him back on the podcast throughout the course of
Speaker 1: the off season and talk some Dolphins football with him.
Speaker 1: He's a very knowledgeable guy. Again, go check out his
Speaker 1: YouTube channel and subscribe. Watch all the episodes. You will
Speaker 1: learn something about football. Al Right, guys, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: my time on this edition of the Drive Time Podcast,
Speaker 1: two episodes per week now up until we get cranking
Speaker 1: back full time here with some more stuff to talk about,
Speaker 1: like free agency in the draft down the line. We'll
Speaker 1: get there eventually, but right now it's still January. We'll
Speaker 1: have another episode this week with Brandon Thorne of Established
Speaker 1: the Run. He has a great scouting eye for offensive line,
Speaker 1: front seven and all that stuff, and he writes great
Speaker 1: analytical work for them as well as his Trench Warfare.
Speaker 1: He grades the quality of pass rushers throughout the course
Speaker 1: of the NFL. We'll talk about that with him, Emmanuel
Speaker 1: Ogba and this Dolphins offensive line later on this week.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, that's gonna be my time you all,
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