1 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Hey there everybody. It is Tuesday, January twenty two. Welcome 2 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we give both 3 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: teams to shot in overtime. I'm Marcus Grant alongside Michael F. Florio, 4 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: producer Justin is at the controls and well, let's just 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: let's just get into it. Florio. Um, you know it was. 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: It was an entertaining weekend of football. Uh, but I 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: know for you it was as big a gut punch 8 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: as there is. And look, and I know the Titans lost, 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: and I know Justin is certainly disappointed by what happened there. 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: But I think universally everybody can say that nobody took 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: a bigger gut punch than Bill's fans this weekend. So 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: here we are, what forty eight hours based not quite 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: forty eight hours removed from from what happened. Uh? What 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: what is your mindset? How are you feeling right now? 15 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: Every time I think I'm like, I'm like over it, 16 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: I see something else on Twitter or something like I 17 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: saw that Josh Allen has the best qb R for 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: any postseason ever and the best touchdown at interception rate 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: and Gabriel Davis is the first player with four touchdown 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: catches in a playoff game, and I'm sitting here like 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: none of that matters because they lost that game despite 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: them playing as great as they did. And I was 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: joking saying, like at this point, I don't even feel 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: like a Bills fan. I feel like a Josh Allen 25 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: fan because I just like everything. I'm just like this guy. 26 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: He did it, like he did what we asked him 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: to do, and they couldn't come through for him, So like, 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: I feel awful for him, and I I ranked it 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: the second worst gut punch moment for me Marcus as 30 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: a sports fan. The other one also by Kansas City 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: when the Royals beat the Mets. But the more I'm 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: thinking about it, this one, this one might top it 33 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: just because of how quickly it swung. Yeah, I mean 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: just the range of EM's from you being ahead to 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: being down to being ahead to you know, all of 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: a sudden, you're going to overtime. Um, yeah, that was 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: that was just like I said, as somebody who didn't 38 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: have a rooting interest, that was certainly entertaining. I can 39 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: only imagine what that was like. And I'm glad you 40 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: mentioned your other big gut punches because that was gonna 41 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: be sort of my question is like just sort of 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: talking about big gut punched moments as a sports fan 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 1: because I watched that and for me, I I immediately 44 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: swung back. There were two things that that popped into 45 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: my mind. The more recent one was Andre Iguodala getting 46 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: his layup blocked by Lebron Uh in Game seven of 47 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: the Finals, and the Warriors ended up losing. After winning 48 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: seventy three games in the regular season and having a 49 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: three to one lead UH in that series, they end 50 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: up losing. UM, and my friend text me, He's like, 51 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: He's like, it took a too an amazing play by 52 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: an all time great to beat you. I'm like, that 53 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: doesn't make me feel better. I was gonna say, how 54 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: long did it take you to to get over that? 55 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: Because I mean, we're only two days in, but like 56 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: I I've never had a sports loss outside of when 57 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: the Mets lost the World Series really stick with me 58 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: more than like that day, you know that one, that 59 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: one took you know a little while to get over. 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: The one that that took me the longest to get over. 61 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 1: And even now I I still I can't watch the game. UM. 62 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: The two thousand six Rose Bowl, and I'm sure Justin 63 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: is probably smiling, so I know he's a Longhorns fan. Um. 64 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: But the two thousand six Rose Bowl against Vince Young 65 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: and in Texas, I remember, I was. I was at 66 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl for that game, and I remember every 67 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: night for a week, um, because Lyndale White got stuffed 68 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: on a key fourth down. Uh, and that's what gave 69 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: Texas the ball back for Vince Young to go down 70 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: and score the game. When you touchdown. Every night for 71 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: a week in my dreams, I saw Lynndale White getting 72 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: stuffed on fourth down and I would wake up in 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: a cold sweat, just feeling miserable. You that makes me 74 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: feel normal because I actually did struggle. Like I woke 75 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night, I guess Sunday 76 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: night into Monday, and I was just like I woke 77 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: up and I was like thirteen seconds, Like that was 78 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: the first thing in my head, and like overtime, yeah, 79 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: we we could talk about the overtime rules and all 80 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: of that. Overtime is a blur to me. Once the 81 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: Bills gave up that that field goal, I was like, 82 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: this is it. It's it's over, Like they're going to 83 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: lose this game. Yeah, and it just sort of felt 84 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: like that that once, once the Chiefs came down and 85 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: tied it, it just felt like, Uh, I know Patrick 86 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Claybon would disagree with me, but it felt like momentum 87 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: was all on Kansas City side. I know Patrick doesn't 88 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: believe in momentum. I do. Uh, And it just felt 89 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: like everything was kind of rolling their way and it 90 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: just it sort of seemed inevitable. So, uh, you know, 91 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt. I'm not gonna lie to you. It's 92 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: gonna hurt. And what what makes it hurt even more 93 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: is that you work for the NFL. Um. That game 94 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: is gonna get played a lot on NFL network. Um. 95 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: I've always said the worst part about working in the 96 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: NFL network is when your team loses the super Bowl 97 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: because they show the Super Bowl on TV every day 98 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: for like a week, and you can't avoid it when 99 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: you work there. So I have no I have no 100 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: deep words of wisdom for you other than I'm sorry, 101 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: and it's gonna hurt for a while, maybe for a 102 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: really long time. I think what makes it a little 103 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: worse as well, too, because everything you just said is true, 104 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: it's also the fact that like it's not like they 105 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: lost to you know another like it's the team that 106 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: beat them last year that the Bills have for They've 107 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: made no they have not shot away from the fact that, 108 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: like everything they've done for the last year has been 109 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: about beating this team and to have it and then 110 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: to blow it like they did it. Uh. And and 111 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: I know everyone says, as long as you have Josh Allen, 112 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: you have a chance. We've said that about a lot 113 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: of teams and a lot of players. I mean, Dan 114 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: Reno got to the Super Bowl in his second year 115 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: and lost, and everybody's like, oh, well he'll be back, 116 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: and he never got back. So, uh, there's no guarantee. Which, 117 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: by the way, somebody asked I was on a podcast 118 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: yesterday and someone asked me, what do the Bills what 119 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: do they need to do, uh to kind of get 120 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: things to get over the hump? And I was like, 121 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: they need Patrick Mahomes to retire, Like, I don't know 122 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: what else there is. You know, they did everything right 123 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: except they couldn't. They couldn't defend for the final thirteen seconds. 124 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: So um, anybody anyway, if anybody out there listening, I 125 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: we would love to hear about your your worst gut 126 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 1: punch sports moments. You can hit us up on Twitter. 127 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: You either hit us you know at U at NFL podcasts, 128 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: or you can you know, either New York or Florida individually. 129 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: But you know, always it's always fun to sort of 130 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: share in misery with everybody else. So I would love 131 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: to hear about your your gut punches. Uh. We have 132 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: played to talk about. We're gonna talk some running backs today. 133 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: Last week we went through quarterbacks and our sort of 134 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: look ahead for the future with the quarterback position. Gonna 135 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: do the same with running backs. But actually there are 136 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: a couple of things I did want to talk about, 137 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: uh that came out of this past weekend in the 138 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: divisional games. UM, and a couple of them actually having 139 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: to do with with quarterbacks. The first one the start 140 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers, right, because we sat here on this 141 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: show and we talked about how it seemed like Rogers 142 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: was good to go, that everything was okay in Green Bay, 143 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: and then you brought up the point that, well, it 144 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: might depend on you know, what happens in the play 145 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: Austin if they have a loss, they lost at home 146 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: after scoring ten points. Uh. Really, they scored seven on 147 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: the first drive. They scored three the rest of the game. Uh. 148 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: And now Rogers is saying, I don't know if I 149 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: want to be part of a rebuild. So was this 150 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: the kind of loss that maybe you know has him 151 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: back in Culver City auditioning to be the permanent host 152 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: of Jeopardy. I think so. And kudos to you guys, 153 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: Markets because you that the forty Niners played a great game. 154 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel Man, I I don't know what else that man. Yeah, 155 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: like like he literally can't walk off the field at 156 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: the end of games, but he will win you that game. 157 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: But Aaron Rodgers, I I think this is one of 158 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: those losses. But the thing is, unlike the last two years, 159 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: Like two years ago it was just like, hey, we 160 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: got blown out the defense, like they couldn't really stop anything. 161 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: Last year was like we should have went for it, 162 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: we were in it. You could blame the coaches, Like 163 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: this season, I don't think there's anyone you could blame, 164 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: but Aaron Rodgers, like the NFC was wide open for 165 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: them for the taking. The Bucks were banged up. The 166 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: forty Niners, like that is a team that if you 167 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers is as Aaron Rodgers, the m v 168 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: P quarterback like he is, he should beat that team. 169 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: And I think the NFC was wide open for the 170 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: Packers this year and the fact that they don't even 171 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: win a playoff game, and two years ago when they 172 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: lost to the forty niners, Aaron Rodgers said, we need 173 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: to get this game at home because it will be 174 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: a different game. It was low scoring, but it was 175 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: the same results. So I'm thinking this could be one 176 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: of those games that it just completely changes the the 177 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: landscape for the Packers and Rogers. But I'm I'm not 178 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: thinking he retires. If he I'm thinking he plays somewhere else. 179 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think those are the two options I 180 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: think on the table. I feel like at this point, 181 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, everything, all the goodwill that seemed to have 182 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: been built up seems to have gone out of the 183 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: window with that loss. And You're right, they wanted that 184 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: game at home. They got it at home after being 185 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: what they were, undefeated at home all through the regular season, 186 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: and they get the typical, you know, the stereotypical Lambeau weather. 187 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: It's freezing, it's snowing in the second half, and they 188 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: just couldn't score any points. On top of it, their 189 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: special teams let them down in a big way. The 190 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: blocked field goal, the blocked punt um you know that 191 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: goes for a touchdown. But a lot of it is, 192 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: you know, the guy that everybody thinks is going to 193 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: be the NFL m v p uh couldn't score any points. Um, 194 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: just straight up. And so I think it's gonna be 195 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: kind of a messy divorce there. And who knows whether 196 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: maybe he goes to Denver, maybe you know, the Broncos 197 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: figure out a way to make it happen, or maybe 198 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: he just decides that, you know, him and and his 199 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: wife and Miles Tuller and his wife are just gonna 200 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: hang out in Hawaii, um and post Instagram bids all day. 201 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: Who knows, but it's ugly. Outside of the four teams 202 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: that are still alive right now, I think it's the 203 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: most fun team to be a fan of his, the Broncos, 204 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: because every time you open up Twitter, there's a new 205 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: All Star quarterback in in the Broncos uniform. So that 206 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: leads to Tom Brady, um, you know. And and after 207 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: the Bucks lost to the Rams, there's been a lot 208 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: of talk in the last couple of days about Brady 209 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: really weighing his options and deciding whether or not he's 210 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: going to come back and play now, I don't. I 211 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: don't think there's a shot of him going to another team. 212 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: I think for Brady the options are either he comes 213 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: back and he plays with Tampa next year, or he retired. 214 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: I think I think it's just an A and B 215 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: choice for him. Um. But but where do you think 216 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: he's at? Do you think we have seen the last 217 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: of Tom Brady in the NFL? I do not. I 218 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: think this is the most real he's ever talked about retirement. 219 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: He made it to his goal, right, he's forty five. 220 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna be forty five soon. He said that's what 221 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: he wanted to play towards. But the I think it'll 222 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: come down to this. I think he's gonna look at 223 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: the Bucks roster and who they can retain and really 224 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: breakdown if he thinks that he has a chance of 225 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl. But we keep talking about how 226 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: all the great young quarterbacks are in the a f C. 227 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: And if Aaron Rodgers is to leave Green Bay and 228 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: go to Denver, like like we're all retires, that just 229 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: makes the NFC even more there for the taking for Brady. 230 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: So I think Brady playing it like Rogers is probably 231 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: gonna win the m v P. I think you could 232 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: easily make the argument though, that Brady was the best 233 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: quarterback there's regular season and deserve the m v P. 234 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: So he's playing at that high of a level with 235 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: the chance to win a super Bowl. I don't think 236 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna retire. I don't think he wants to go 237 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: out putting Matthew Stafford over so, especially in the way 238 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: that he went out like he erased a twenty four 239 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: point lead in that game. So I'm thinking we see 240 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: him at least one more year. But maybe it's just 241 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: the way I'm programmed to think, because I I still 242 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: really believe that Tom Brady is gonna play until he's 243 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: like fifty if he wants. I mean, it seems that way, right. 244 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: I Mean, the guy's coming off of season where he 245 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: threw for yard, he had forty three touchdowns, and statistically 246 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: it was one of the best seasons he's ever put together. 247 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: And you're right, I mean, so they just come off 248 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: a super Bowl win, they lose in tough fashion at 249 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: home in the playoffs. I don't think he wants to 250 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: leave that way. Um. You know, now if he comes 251 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: back next year and and the sort of the same 252 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: thing happens, then maybe you you really do see him 253 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: hang him up and because he will be forty five 254 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: in August. Um. But but I don't think he's done yet. 255 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: And this is a team that's not done yet. They 256 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: are still the best team in the NFC South for sure, 257 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: so that that automatically makes you a playoff team. Um, 258 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: and you're right, Let's see what happens. You know, what 259 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: do they do they resign Chris god with what happens 260 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: with Leonard for Nette Ronald Jones? Can they stay healthy 261 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: this year or next year too? Because that was a 262 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: big thing for them. They had injury issues all year 263 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: long that really kind of hurt them, especially on the 264 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: in that game against the Rams, were you know, losing 265 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: Tristan Worth's was a big deal. Trying to block guys 266 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: like Aaron Donald and Von Miller and keep that that 267 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: pass rush off of him. So I don't think he's 268 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: done yet. Um. But but you're right, this is the 269 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: most serious retirement talk I think we've ever heard from 270 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Uh, there has been a coaching higher not 271 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: a head coaching higher, but a coordinator higher. The Carolina 272 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: Panthers have added Ben McAdoo, the former Giants head coach, 273 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: to their staff. Uh. Initially I saw it and I 274 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: was kind of like me. I talked to somebody who 275 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: was slightly more excited than me. So I'm more of 276 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: a man now, um, for whatever that's worth. But but 277 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: when you see Ben McAdoo in Carolina, what does this 278 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: do for you in terms of, you know, Christian McCaffrey 279 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: and the rest of that offense, which that was just 280 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: miserable last year. Yeah, I am similar to you. I'm 281 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: like man. And I went back and I looked at 282 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: the four years McAdoo had with the Giants too as 283 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: an O C two as a head coach. In those 284 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: four years, the Giants ranked tied for twenty nine in 285 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: rushing yards per game. Uh. They did throw about of 286 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: the past is to running backs, which was league average 287 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: at that time. They were more of a passing attack 288 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: than running. So for Christian McCaffrey, Look, I think that 289 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: obviously McAdoo is going to change up some of his 290 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: play calling and stuff to fit the players that he has. 291 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: I still think Christian McCaffrey will get a bunch of volume, 292 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: but being honest, like for an offense that has been 293 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: struggling to be exciting for a very long time, now, 294 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: this doesn't really move the needle a whole bunch for me. Well, 295 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: and I think on top of it too, you you've 296 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: got to figure in some of the personnel. I mean, yes, 297 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: McCaffrey hopefully is back and healthy and can get through 298 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: the bulk of the season next year, but you still 299 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: have a real big issue at quarterback, right, I mean, 300 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: Sam Donald was awful for a good chunk of the 301 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: year when he played. They brought in Cam Newton, who 302 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: looked like a shadow of you know, the the former 303 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: m v p um you know DJ. Because of that, 304 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: their wide receiver sort of disappeared. DJ Moore was underwhelming, 305 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson was kind of a ghost for much of 306 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: the year. I mean, there are there are some actual 307 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: issues that need to be fixed in terms of personnel 308 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: before you can even get to the schemes. So I mean, look, 309 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: hopefully this turns things around. Would literally love to have 310 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: more Panthers back in our fantasy lives, But immediately, this 311 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: doesn't really move the needle for me, uh in a 312 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: whole big way. So all right, talking about CMC, I 313 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: guess that transitions us nicely into running back. So as 314 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: we we start one to you know, remind you of 315 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: the top five running backs from this past season, of 316 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: course as always through week seventeen, not including week eighteen 317 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: and then the PPR format. So Jonathan Taylor no surprise 318 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: number one after his huge day a huge season. Rather 319 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler at number two. So Florio, your two guys 320 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: that you were on this year, Uh, finish one two 321 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: in the ranging may never happen again, But I love 322 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: Nagi Harris is at three, Joe Mixing at four, and 323 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: uh playoff Lenny. Oh, I guess he's off season Lenny. 324 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: Now Leonard four Nette is at number five. So I 325 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: got me too. Three questions I was thinking about when 326 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: it comes to drafting running backs in two. The first 327 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: one is is it still mandatory? Is it's still necessary 328 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: to take a running back with the number one overall pick? 329 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: And I say that because not just Cooper Cup having 330 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: his big season, but Davontae Adams was was ranked scored 331 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: above most running backs. Uh, Justin Jefferson was scoring on 332 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: par with most running backs. There are number of wide 333 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: receivers up there are we still locked in with a 334 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: running back up top. I would throw Jamaar Chase's name 335 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: in that group as well of receivers that you could 336 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: consider in the first round. But it's not I wouldn't 337 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: say it's mandatory to take a running back because I 338 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: don't think anything in fantasy is mandatory. Like, if you 339 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: want to take a wide receiver at one overall, go 340 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: do it. But for me, I will still be taking 341 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: a running back first. I think this year I'm gonna 342 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: change my strategy up a little bit, uh and not 343 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: really try to force getting multiple running backs in the 344 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: early rounds, but in the first round when you can 345 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: get one of those guys who's gonna give you twenty touches. 346 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: And Jonathan Taylor is a great example, right, Like Jonathan 347 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: Taylor is not a lock to finish as the RB 348 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: one overall next season, but is he a lock to 349 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: give you, like, you know, close to twenty touches every 350 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: week and be a top five fantasy running back? I 351 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: would say so, so, Like that's who I would take 352 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: number one overall. Because once you get out of the 353 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: early and it's not even like you know, in the 354 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: third round. It's like for me, I think there's a 355 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: big drop off after like the top ten running backs 356 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: in terms of weekly production. So I want to ensure 357 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: that I have one of those guys on my roster. 358 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: So as I was putting this together, I mean, I 359 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: was looking at the wide receivers and how they were 360 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: scoring and you know, compared to the running backs, and 361 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: I think the reason I would still stick with a 362 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: running back up top is it's basically just scarcity, right, 363 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: It's positional scarcity. It's the fact that you know, you 364 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: can get wide receivers who all right, not everybody is 365 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: going to put up Cooper Cup justin Jefferson type numbers, 366 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: but you can get a lot of guys who can 367 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: get you something similar to that. Right, you can find uh, 368 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: either low end top tier guys are high end second 369 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: tier guys and still be okay. Whereas you talk about 370 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: that drop off at running back after say the first ten, 371 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: and I would say that even you know, you look 372 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: at the first three or four, there's probably there's a 373 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: gap between them and everybody else too. I think it's 374 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: just that that lack of depth when you talk about 375 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: the elite positions or elite players at the position that 376 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: makes it worth taking a running back at the top. 377 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: So I think it's it's an interesting conversation to have. 378 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: I know, for me, I still think if I'm somewhere 379 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: in the top three, maybe top four, probably still gonna 380 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: gonna take a running back. But that being said, and 381 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: you talk about changing your strategy, are you willing to 382 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: allow zero RB or modified zero RB into your heart 383 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: next year? I can't go full zero RB, but modified 384 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna have a good amount of teams 385 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: that are like that. Like I think I will grab 386 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: a running back in the first round. Maybe if I'm 387 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: towards the end of the first round and I can 388 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: get two of the like top twelve or thirteen running backs, 389 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: I'll probably still double down on unning backs there. But 390 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: if I'm in the middle or early part of the 391 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: first round and coming back to me in the second round, 392 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do what I did last year and 393 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: try to force a running back like I was taking 394 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: guys like Chris Carson and Clyde Edwards E Lair and 395 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: convincing myself that hey, if these guys hit, they can 396 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: be in RB one, and it just in a lot 397 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 1: of situations, it would have been better off had I 398 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: taken the wide receiver there. So I think this year 399 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a good amount of like modified zero 400 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: rbs like start off, especially in redraft leagues where you 401 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: can make pickups and stuff like that, because there were 402 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: a good amount of weekly running backs off the waiver wire. 403 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: It's just like a best ball or something like that. 404 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: I'll probably still go running back early, but in these 405 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: other leagues, I think I'll get my stud running back, 406 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: then try to get some receivers, maybe a Kyle Pitts 407 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: or something like that, and then in the middle rounds, 408 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: after the dead zone, I'll get some running backs with upside. 409 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: I think that's that's sort of the thing about just 410 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: a straight pure zero RB thing, right, because you're not 411 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: gonna take them early. But then you do get into 412 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: that dead zone fairly quickly in the draft, right you're 413 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: talking about round three and four, you're getting into that 414 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: dead zone. So then you're still trying to avoid the 415 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: position as much as possible. Uh, And I look, I 416 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: know you can survive it. I know there are ways 417 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: around it. It feels scary and it feels like a 418 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: lot of work. Um, and I don't like to be 419 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: scared and I don't want to do a lot of work, 420 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 1: and so I think that sort of prevents me from 421 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: going just a pure zero RB. I I understand it. 422 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: I know how it works. Uh, it's just not for me, 423 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: it's not for everybody. I can certainly get down with 424 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: a modified version of it, and I think that's what 425 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: I did in a lot of circumstances this year, although 426 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: I will admit I think I took a couple of 427 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: swings in the dead zone and missed out on Cooper Cup. Uh. 428 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: That hurts a little bit, but you know, you live, 429 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: and you learn and you kind of get ready for 430 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: next year. So I think I think that's that's sort 431 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: of it. I know we'll have this conversation. I know 432 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: this argument will happen on Fantasy Twitter when we get 433 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: to July in August, because you know, times a flat circle. Uh, 434 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: and all these things kind of come back around again. Um, 435 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: last one, can you win with a running back who 436 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: doesn't consistently catch the football? And I'm not talking about 437 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, giving you, you know, Pete Christian McCaffrey hundred 438 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: catches or even give you the Nasey Harris, you know, 439 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: seventy four catches from this past year, but just the 440 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: guy that that isn't at least partially involved in the 441 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: passing game. Is it possible to win with a running 442 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: back like that on your roster? It is, It's just 443 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: a lot harder um And I think like the good 444 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: examples of that is like Jonathan Taylor, who is the 445 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: RB one this year but had the fewest catches by 446 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: the overall RB one since D'Angelo Williams in like two 447 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: thousand and eight. And then we've seen Derrick Henry have 448 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: great Fantasy years with like less than twenty catches. So 449 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: I know I'm talking about two of the biggest outliers 450 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: out there. But it is possible, but you just need 451 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: to And I'm someone who always preaches the importance of 452 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: running back catches, but if a running back isn't catching passes, 453 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: it just makes the margin of error so much smaller. 454 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: And basically two overcome that lack of catches. They need 455 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: a lot of yards and a lot of tough downs 456 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: and something what like Jonathan Taylor did can overcome that. 457 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 1: But if he would have had ten touchdowns instead of twenty, 458 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: we're talking about Jonathan Taylor as a bust even though 459 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: he had a good year. So it just you can 460 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: win with it. It just makes it even harder to 461 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: do so. Oh but I think that the fact that 462 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned two outliers sort of speaks to the point 463 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: though about how difficult it is to win with running backs. 464 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: They don't catch the football because you do need Jonathan 465 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: Taylor running for eighteen hundred yards, You need Derrick Henry 466 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: running for close to two thousand yards and getting you, 467 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, fifteen, eighteen, maybe twenty touchdowns. I mean, even 468 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: the other guy you mentioned, you know, Jonathan Taylor having 469 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: forty catches and being you know, having a few at 470 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: catches for the overall RB one in a long time, 471 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: James Conner finishes in well into the top ten with 472 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: thirty seven catches, but fifteen rushing touchdowns eighteen overall, if 473 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: you can the three rushing, that's an outlier as well. 474 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: So I think I think it's just sort of reinforces 475 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: the idea that, yeah, it's possible, but you really do 476 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: have to get a guy that you know can be 477 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: above and being or you just sort of strike lightning. 478 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody, I think even the most optimistic James 479 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: Conner fan wouldn't have predicted he was going to score 480 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: fifteen touchdowns this year. So, I mean, I think it's possible, 481 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: but I do think it really does mean that you 482 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: have to find somebody who's really really good, uh, either 483 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: just running the football or scoring touchdowns in order for 484 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: it to happen. So not impossible, just really really difficult. 485 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: It's all. So it feels like a a good place to stop, 486 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll come back and keep our 487 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: look ahead going with running backs in two next on 488 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Show. Alright, so let's keep going 489 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: and kind of looking ahead with another round of hype 490 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: training or smoke screen. This one all running back centered. 491 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: I got four of them right here. The first one, 492 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: Magie Harris will be a fantasy bust in two. And 493 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: when I say bust, I don't mean that he's gonna suddenly, 494 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, give you like, you know, four hundred rushing 495 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: yards or you know whatever, but falls off a little 496 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: bit then maybe does not live up to what his 497 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: a DP is going to be. Hype train or smoke 498 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: screen there. I'm saying smoke screen there. Naja Harris proved 499 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: to us that he can play, and the volume was king. 500 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean almost every week he led running backs and 501 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: snaps played. He was always up there and carries, and 502 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: he led the NFL running backs in receptions this year. 503 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: Like and I know people are like, oh, well, big 504 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: Ben's retiring, did you guys not watch big Ben play 505 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: this year? Like, I don't think it could get a 506 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: whole lot worse, And maybe Mason Rudolph is worse. But 507 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: people are throwing out stuff as if Najy Harris is 508 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: going to a new environment or something like that, like, well, 509 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: there's a bad old one. That's what we said about 510 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: him coming into this year, and he proved us wrong 511 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: on that. And if they get a new quarterback, would 512 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: they bad old on? There's still gonna be a lot 513 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: of dump off passes two Naji Harris. I think I 514 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: think it's one of those things that we talked about 515 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: a lot Marcus talent versus situation and opportunity. I think 516 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: the people who want I think Najay Harris are gonna 517 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: bust don't necessarily believe in his talent, which I don't 518 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: care about. If the guy's going to touch the ball 519 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: twenty times and be on the field of the snaps, 520 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: So to me, I don't see the volume changing with 521 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin still here. So I think Naji Harris is 522 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: definitely not a bust next year. Yeah, I agree with that. 523 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: I think it's more of a smoke screen too. But 524 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, all of those things sort of came into play, 525 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 1: Like what happens if there's a quarterback that can actually 526 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: throw the ball fifteen yards down the field consistently, does 527 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: na see the same number of targets? Um? You know, 528 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: although you know, maybe that opens things up and makes 529 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: him more effective as not that he wasn't effective as 530 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: a runner anyway, but maybe it makes him more effective 531 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: as a runner. And I think he still gets his targets. So, uh, 532 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: the situation is changing. There are certainly a lot of 533 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: unknowns in Pittsburgh right now. Um, I'm still not completely 534 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: sold that Mason Rudolph is going to be pittsburgh starting 535 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: quarterback when we get to Week one. We'll see. But 536 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: that's just that's just sort of how I feel about it. 537 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: How about this one, and I've heard this before throwing out, 538 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: but Jimmy Garoppolo as the Steelers quarterback, I would I 539 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: would like that. I think out of all the options. 540 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: He's one of the better ones. Uh. He would definitely 541 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: throw a lot of picks, I think, because he gets 542 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: away with some balls right now. But I think he 543 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: would be definitely a big upgrade from Mason Rudolph, unless, 544 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: of course, he leads the Niners to a super Bowl 545 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: and then you guys have that that issue deciding what 546 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, that's gonna be interesting like that, you know, 547 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: that's that's still very much in play, right, Like the 548 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: Niners could win two more games somehow, and then Jimmy 549 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: Garoppolo is sort of cemented in San Francisco. Uh, and 550 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: the lace trade lands for at least another year. Who knows, 551 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: but we'll see, we'll see what happened. But I have 552 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: heard the Jimmy g to Pittsburgh theory a couple of times, 553 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: and that would be that would be kind of interesting. 554 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: I think to watch um next one, Alvin Kamara will 555 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: no longer be an elite fantasy running back by elite? 556 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: Are we talking like top five or in RB one? Uh, 557 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: let's say top five, Okay, then I will say hype 558 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: train um. But I think he's somewhere in between that, 559 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: like he's not in my top five, but He's definitely 560 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 1: in my top ten and twelve. So my issue is 561 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: we saw the catches decrease a little bit this year, 562 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: that the touchdowns, like the Saints offense wasn't the same 563 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: as it was. It wasn't the same high powered offense. 564 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: So uh, naturally Alvin Kamara was scoring like fifteen plus 565 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: touchdowns every year and that's gonna make him a top 566 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: five fantasy running back. I do have concerns about that 567 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: now in this new Saints offense, which is it's anything 568 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: but pretty to watch like it used to be. And 569 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: and we haven't ruled out the fact that maybe Taysom 570 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: Hill is the starter here and we already know the 571 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: concerns that that brings. Yeah, I mean, I just there's 572 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: so many things for me to worry about, Like, I 573 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: don't think he's the top five at all, um, and 574 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't be completely surprised 575 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 1: if he falls out of the top ten just because 576 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: you mentioned the quarterback situation. Is it Taysom Hill again, 577 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: does Jamis maybe make a recovery and come back, and 578 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: does he take that job next year? Uh? The wide 579 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: receiver situation, the past catch a situation in general was 580 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: awful this past year, and the offensive line was not great. 581 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: But pretty much no matter which metrics you look at, 582 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: it was not a great year for the Saints offensive line. 583 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of rebuilding that has to be 584 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: done around that offense. Uh. Camara right now is sort 585 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: of the centerpiece of it. But you know, he's also 586 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: not that he's old, right, He's gonna be twenties seven 587 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: in July, so he's not you know, he's not old 588 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: by any stretch of the imagination. But uh, you know, 589 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: he does have some wear and tear on him, especially 590 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: because the Saints have leaned on him so much, and 591 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: unless they can fix a lot of things to give 592 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: him some help, I think it just becomes easy for 593 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: defenses to say, you know what, let's just take Camaro 594 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: away and see what the rest of the Saints offense 595 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: can do. So I'm I'm I'm worried about him. I 596 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: know I have time to change my mind, but right now, 597 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: in late January, I'm I'm concerned about Alvin Camara. UM 598 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: J K. Dobbins, who did not get to see it 599 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: all this year unfortunately, I know everybody had big things 600 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: pegged for him, and then he suffered the injury and 601 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: missed all season. Uh, he will return to the Ravens 602 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: and he will become an RB one next year. Hype 603 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: trainer Smoke Screen. This is the hardest question of all 604 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: of them for me. I think I'm gonna go smoke Screen, 605 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: But I keep going back and forth because I think 606 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: he'll be borderline. Like would it surprised me if he's 607 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: like the RB nine, No, would it surprised me if 608 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: he's like the RB fourteen something like that. No, I 609 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: think that's the range he kind of belongs. And to me, 610 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: he reminds me a lot of Nick Chubb. Like he's 611 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: a great runner. We know here there's nothing he can't 612 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: do on a football field, but the catches. And this 613 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: is what we talked about earlier, like can you win 614 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: with a running back that doesn't catch passes? Nick Chubb 615 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: had his worst season in in years because he was 616 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: catching less than two balls per game. And I know 617 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying, well, Lamar Jackson was 618 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: throwing more to the running backs this year. He's still 619 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: average less than five attempts per game to the position, 620 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: which was outside the top thirty amongst quarterbacks this year. 621 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: So Yeah, maybe there's some more opportunity there for Dobbins, 622 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be at the same level as 623 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: the other you know, high end running back. So to me, 624 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: it kind of comes down to, are we're gonna get 625 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: a lot of him and Gus Edwards splitting work like 626 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: we were kind of anticipating this year. Uh So, I 627 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: think he definitely he has the talent and the upside 628 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: and he's in a good situation to do it. But 629 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if the lack of catches maybe 630 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: he held him just outside the top ten or twelve. 631 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be optimistic. I'm gonna say hype train on 632 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: this one. And I think he's kind of a fringe 633 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: RB one. I think he just sneaks in maybe at 634 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: the you know, eleven or twelve something like that. But 635 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: I think, um, you know, if if what we saw 636 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: during the preseason, and granted we didn't see much of it, 637 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: was an idea of what the Ravens want to do, 638 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of work there for And yes, 639 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: you're right, I don't think they're gonna throw to him 640 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: as much as you're gonna see. You know, he's not 641 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: gonna see as many targets as Nag Harris or certainly 642 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler or anybody like that. But I think maybe 643 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: they start to work that in. And I know it's 644 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: been a reframe that the Ravens have said for years 645 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna throw the football more. We're gonna throw the 646 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: football more. And then Lamar Jackson runs for eight cards. 647 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: But I do think that we're gonna maybe see him 648 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: integrated into the passing game a little bit more. So 649 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: I have some optimism. I think if he can catch passes, 650 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: I think that's enough. Um, you know, and and we'll 651 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: see what happens with Gus Edwards or any other running 652 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: backs they have back there. But but I'm gonna be 653 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: optimistic and say that, you know, J K. Dobbins will 654 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: will have that year that we were expecting for him 655 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: in one UM and maybe he ends up being sort 656 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: of a draft value because maybe people are scared after 657 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: the injury. I don't know. We'll see, um. Last one 658 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: this was mostly for fun. I feel like I feel 659 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: like I know the answer to this one. Uh. In two, 660 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: we will again guess wrong about which forty Niners running 661 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: back that you want on your roster. Nope, smoke screen, 662 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: because there's two running backs that I would roster, Elijah 663 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: Mitchell and Deebo Samuel. Like, I think that is going 664 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: to be the forty Niners run offense next year, along 665 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: with Trey Lance. Like I think what Elijah Mitchell is. 666 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: I mean, Trey Sermon, he's done right like that, it's over. 667 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: They're not going They're not gonna play him over Mitchell. 668 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 1: I think maybe they bring back most of that. They 669 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: could get him for cheap, but he'll be like the 670 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: secondary explosive back. I think Jeff Wilson and ja Michael 671 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: Hasty are just guys. They that do well in the 672 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan system. But Elijah Mitchell has thrived and he's 673 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: been dominating work whenever he's healthy. So I would be 674 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: very surprised if he's not the lead running back next year. 675 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: All Right, I was gonna give it a hype train 676 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: just because it just feels like every year it happens, 677 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: right there. Every year we go around and around and 678 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: we argue and then you know, we get to week 679 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: five or like, oh, I guess the answer was actually 680 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: d like you know, so, I mean, you may be right, 681 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: maybe it is maybe it is Elijah Mitchell. I am. 682 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: I am also sort of curious to see what they 683 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: have in store for Deebo Samuel next year. Um. I mean, 684 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: obviously what he did this year has been amazing. It 685 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: also came pretty much out of nowhere, was totally unexpected. 686 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: I wonder whether or not they keep that going, if 687 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: if this is actually a thing now, or if this 688 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: was sort of Kyle Shanahan making do with what he 689 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: had because they had to shuffle so many guys in 690 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: and out of that back field. So I think that's 691 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: that's gonna be an interesting question that that we'll have to, 692 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, discover the answer to. But but maybe you're 693 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: onto something with Elijah Mitchell. Maybe we have landed on 694 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: a Niner running back. It also feels like a possibility, 695 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: is like the Niners win the Super Bowl and then 696 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: like debo just like a send because like I mean, 697 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: he's he's carrying them right now. It is remarkable. It 698 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: literally is remarkable. And I know that, like I said, 699 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: he's he's probably gonna get many and maybe he'll get 700 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: a few votes for for m v P. But it's 701 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: hard to think of a guy who has been more 702 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: valuable to his team, especially in the last what six 703 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: to eight weeks, uh, than Deebo Samuel has been for 704 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: the forty Niners. It's just it's amazing to see what 705 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: he has done for this team and how far he 706 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: has carried them. So it's interesting. We could be interesting. 707 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: You've watched a lot more Niners than me. But watching 708 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: that game the other day, whenever it was like third 709 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: and long second, it was like, all right, they're gonna 710 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: throw a screen or something to debo here, and there 711 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: was no answer for it, Like he just kept running 712 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: like unstopped. All I mean, it's just you know, like 713 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: when win in doubt, just give it the debo. You know, 714 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: whenever you need to play, may just give it the 715 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. I mean what he told Kyle Shanahan against 716 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, like, hey, just give me the ball, I'll 717 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: make it happen. And he made it happen. So, uh, 718 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: it is hard to doubt him at this point. All right, 719 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: before we wrap this thing up, let's do our our 720 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: dynasty check. We'll give our top five running back rankings. 721 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: Who do you have in yours? I think you could 722 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: put these guys in any different order, but I went 723 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,959 Speaker 1: with Jonathan Taylor at one, cam Acres at two, who 724 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: has I mean, he looks like the cam Akers of old. 725 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: So I'm giving him there. DeAndre Swift because I believe 726 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: in his talent in all the past is he's gonna 727 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: catch Naji Harris and then Javonte Williams. But I'll say this, 728 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: if Melvin Gordon leaves and the Broncos don't bring in 729 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: another running back, Javonti Williams can move up as highest 730 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: number two overall in my opinion. And all of these 731 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: running backs are twenty three or younger, so you have 732 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: them for the foreseeable future. Yeah, so we've got some 733 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: of the same names. I went j j C at one, 734 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: no surprise there. I did go cam Akers at two, 735 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: and so at first I had Javon Say at two. 736 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: I bumped him down to three and I put Acres 737 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: at two, although they were very close for me because 738 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: I am anticipating Melvin Gordon's not coming back and this 739 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: this is gonna be Williams's backfield. So I've got him 740 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: at three right now, nag at number four, and I 741 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: almost had DeAndre Swift of five, but I did I 742 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: did slide Christian McCaffrey back in there. I reserved the 743 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: right to change my mind and flip flopped him at 744 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: any time. But I think that, you know, looking at 745 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: that Carolina offense, UM, I think they're still going to 746 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: have to lean on McCaffrey, maybe not as much as 747 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: they did in the past, but I still think he's 748 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: gonna get plenty of volume. And this is just sort 749 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: of me wish casting and hoping that he stays healthy. 750 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: Uh So I got swift at like five point one, 751 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: if you will, like literally right behind him. But you know, 752 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 1: depending on how I feel, I might flip that around 753 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. So those are those are my five 754 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: uh my five Dynasty running backs as of you know, 755 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: January two. Um, all right, so that's pretty much it. 756 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: H know. Guess I know we're gonna talk some of 757 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: this championship stuff on on Thursday. Are you will you 758 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: be in a mindset to watch, you know, Championship Sunday 759 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: after this past week? I will? I will. The thing 760 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: I was thinking about, like yesterday and this morning is 761 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: like the lass doesn't just hurt. It's the fact that 762 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: like we lose the into like like Bills fans lose 763 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: the anticipation of like this week, Like, I don't know. 764 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're just like very excited for Sunday and 765 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: looking forward to it and now that's gone. But I 766 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: will watch and I'm gonna root for the Chiefs because 767 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: if if the Bills couldn't beat them, I don't want 768 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: anyone else to beat them. But I think we're gonna 769 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: get four really good games, two really good games by 770 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: four really good teams. Yeah, I think it should be 771 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: really really entertaining. Uh, and I understand that, dude, if 772 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: if if we can't win it, then you know, the 773 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: team that beats me needs to be the champion. I 774 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: completely understand that mentality makes makes plenty of sense. So 775 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: we will dive into that on Thursday. Have plenty more 776 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: for you as well. In the meantime. Now I'll do 777 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. 778 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: Stay happy, safe and health, get vacs, wear a mask, 779 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: do good, and live well. We'll talk to you on Thursday. 780 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: W W, I don't go. I don't know