Speaker 1: Welcome.
Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator.
Speaker 2: We've got a lot to talk about, including new possible
Speaker 2: threats against this country from terrorist organizations. We also have
Speaker 2: this just total insane moment for the cameras of a
Speaker 2: documentary with Hunter Biden coming to Washington. We're going to
Speaker 2: deal with that and then walking out, then trying to
Speaker 2: have a press conference.
Speaker 1: It was just a charade.
Speaker 2: But before we get to that, the story that will
Speaker 2: just make so many people frustrated and want to just
Speaker 2: throw something against their computer screen is the fact that
Speaker 2: doctor Anthony Fauci, he went behind closed doors and they
Speaker 2: asked him about social distancing. Now, this is a guy
Speaker 2: that shut down our entire economy, He shut down our schools,
Speaker 2: he shut down our businesses, and they asked him about
Speaker 2: social distancing and that random six foot rule and his words,
Speaker 2: and I'm quoting Senator, it sort of just appeared. Really
Speaker 2: that's how they came up with the science that we
Speaker 2: were supposed to follow.
Speaker 1: Your I mean your reaction.
Speaker 3: Look, it's infuriating, and I think doctor Fauci is the
Speaker 3: most dangerous, the most damaging and dishonest bureaucrat. Our nation's
Speaker 3: history has ever seen Anthony Fauci's eighty three years old
Speaker 3: and the damage he did during the COVID vaccine he
Speaker 3: got You know, there's an old line about drug dealers,
Speaker 3: don't get high on your own supply. He got high
Speaker 3: on his own supply, and he believed, he believed in
Speaker 3: what he was saying, but he didn't care if it
Speaker 3: was true or not. He was engaged in politics. It
Speaker 3: was about power.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: We've talked on this podcast in a number of times
Speaker 3: about my brand new book, Unwoke, How to Defeat Cultural
Speaker 3: Marxism in America. There's an entire chapter in Unwoke that
Speaker 3: has focused on science, and it's focused on the politicization
Speaker 3: of science. That science and during COVID medical science becoming
Speaker 3: a political endeavor rather than being based on actual data
Speaker 3: and evidence. So how this became public His doctor Fauci
Speaker 3: gave closed door testimony to the House Select Committee on
Speaker 3: the coronavirus pandemic, and he said a number of things.
Speaker 3: He said, what you just pointed out When he was
Speaker 3: asked about the six foot rule, he said, quote it
Speaker 3: it sort of just appeared the hell does that mean?
Speaker 3: It sort of just appeared. You made it up. Look
Speaker 3: on masks, and I go through this at length in
Speaker 3: the book on Woke on Masks. When Sylvia Burwell, who
Speaker 3: was the Secretary of Health and Human Services under Obama,
Speaker 3: when she asked, Hey, should I wear a mask? He said,
Speaker 3: in writing at the beginning of COVID, No, you shouldn't
Speaker 3: wear a mask. Mask don't really do anything. They're not
Speaker 3: effective against this virus. Don't wear it. And then just
Speaker 3: a couple of months later, boom, everyone must wear a
Speaker 3: mask or you're thrown off an air, your ban from
Speaker 3: public society, and you're killing people. I mean, it became
Speaker 3: so overstated, and he was also asked He was also
Speaker 3: asked about the lab Lee hypothesis. Now, one of the
Speaker 3: things I'm most proud of this podcast we did in
Speaker 3: March and April of twenty twenty, right at the beginning
Speaker 3: of COVID. We did two full episodes laying out all
Speaker 3: of the evidence back then that the COVID virus escaped
Speaker 3: from a Chinese government lab. I think as early as
Speaker 3: March of twenty twenty that evidence was clear. I think
Speaker 3: it is overwhelmingly likely that the COVID virus escaped from
Speaker 3: the Wuhan Institute of Virology. I also think it is
Speaker 3: quite likely, not as overwhelming. It hasn't been demonstrated as conclusively,
Speaker 3: but I think it is more likely than not that
Speaker 3: the COVID virus was manufactured in that Chinese government lab.
Speaker 3: That they started with a naturally occurring virus, and then
Speaker 3: they engage in gain A function research to change the virus,
Speaker 3: to make it more deadly, to make it more transmissible,
Speaker 3: to make it easier to target humans. And we know
Speaker 3: and this again I lay out in great length in
Speaker 3: the book Unwoke that doctor Fauci asked Mark Zuckerberg at Facebook,
Speaker 3: will you suppress anyone saying that this virus came from
Speaker 3: a Chinese government lab? And Facebook was more than happy
Speaker 3: to do so. And now a couple of years later,
Speaker 3: Fauci is is all but admitted that there's real evidence
Speaker 3: this came from a Chinese government lab.
Speaker 2: I want to go back to the six foot and
Speaker 2: then we'll get into the Wuhan part, because I do
Speaker 2: think it's important that we break this down a little
Speaker 2: bit for people. I was envisioning and I was trying
Speaker 2: to figure out in my mind, I'm like, all right,
Speaker 2: how would you have come up with you know, remember
Speaker 2: these people we're saying, follow the science, and how would.
Speaker 1: You come up with a six foot rule?
Speaker 2: And there's part of me center that thinks there was
Speaker 2: some people in a room at NIH and they're like,
Speaker 2: all right, we need to come up with some regulations here.
Speaker 2: We need to come up with something it looks proactive.
Speaker 2: And they're like, all right, well, what if we just
Speaker 2: told everybody to stand further apart from each other? And
Speaker 2: they're like, all right, well, how many feet? Who's got
Speaker 2: a ruler? All right, well, you stand three feet apart? No,
Speaker 2: that looks too close. All right, what does four feet
Speaker 2: apart look like? Now that still looks a close. How
Speaker 2: about five? Now, let's make it six. Six seems like
Speaker 2: it looks like you're far enough apart from the other
Speaker 2: person that somehow it seems like we know what we're doing.
Speaker 2: The scary part is there's a pretty good chance that's
Speaker 2: exactly what happened. Yeah, and then they were telling us
Speaker 2: you had to follow the science.
Speaker 1: They just made this crap up. They had no idea
Speaker 1: what they were doing.
Speaker 3: Look, that's exactly right, And there's no basis for six
Speaker 3: feet being the magic number for a virus. Now, look,
Speaker 3: I'll give them a little bit of great At the
Speaker 3: time the COVID pandemic started, people were scared and they
Speaker 3: didn't know what they were dealing with. And there are
Speaker 3: at least some people, there's some government doctors who were
Speaker 3: trying to be helpful and trying to figure out rules.
Speaker 3: And what actually made common sense, particularly when this thing
Speaker 3: was started, it is to engage in protective steps for
Speaker 3: people who were vulnerable. We saw COVID the people who
Speaker 3: were very elderly, people who had significant immuno deficiencies, They
Speaker 3: were vulnerable. It made sense to protect the vulnerable, particularly
Speaker 3: at the outset of this. What didn't make sense is
Speaker 3: to become just obsessive tyrants about masks, about COVID vaccines
Speaker 3: and so. Look, I can understand when they're trying to say, okay,
Speaker 3: what might help. And there was some desire and a
Speaker 3: reasonable desire to reopen society, like any rational person wanted
Speaker 3: to reopen society and saying, okay, how do we do this?
Speaker 3: Maybe some separation, you can understand how you get to that.
Speaker 3: But what Fauci did the way he did this is
Speaker 3: he closed himself in a self righteous arrogance. What he
Speaker 3: said in one interview, he said, I am the science.
Speaker 3: When you question me, you are questioning the science. And
Speaker 3: actually in the book Unwoke, I entitled the chapter on science,
Speaker 3: I don't know actually call it science. I call it
Speaker 3: the science and the definitive article, I mean it was
Speaker 3: it was you needed to have a chorus of angels
Speaker 3: every time he said the science you needed all and
Speaker 3: it was it was the self righteousness and the tyranny
Speaker 3: is what is so infuriating. And he hasn't backed away
Speaker 3: from that one iota.
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Speaker 2: you brought up the Wuhan theory, which was actually not
Speaker 2: a crazy theory, there was a lot of intel that
Speaker 2: was coming out that was talking about cell phone data
Speaker 2: from that area where the lockdowns initially started in China
Speaker 2: were right there. How there was no cell phone being
Speaker 2: used and pinging within the building, which you meant that
Speaker 2: there was probably some sort of issue inside the building
Speaker 2: because there was no cell phones in the building. There
Speaker 2: was a lot of things that pointed to evidence that
Speaker 2: this came from the Wuhan inseudivirology. And if you or
Speaker 2: I or anyone else, and there's many that may be
Speaker 2: listening to the show that may have actually been a
Speaker 2: victim of this. If you put that out on social media,
Speaker 2: you were silent, shut down, and your account was even
Speaker 2: taken away from you, depending on if you had too
Speaker 2: many strikes that you mentioned Wan and they said and
Speaker 2: the federal government went to them as you mentioned, and said,
Speaker 2: anyone that doesn't say what we want them to say,
Speaker 2: shut it down, shut them down, shut their accounts down.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what they ended up doing.
Speaker 3: Well, look what we knew early on, the outbreak occurred
Speaker 3: in Wuhan, China. Where it occurred was nine miles away
Speaker 3: from the Wuhan Institute for Virology. Now, if you look
Speaker 3: at just the sheer statistical odds, the Wuhan Institute for
Speaker 3: Virology was a government lab that was studying viruses. One
Speaker 3: of the things it was studying was coronaviruses, and in fact,
Speaker 3: it was studying coronaviruses from bats. Now, mind you remember
Speaker 3: early on where they said COVID came from was a
Speaker 3: virus carried by bats. Now, those particular bats do not
Speaker 3: occur in Wuhan, China. The closest they occur natural is
Speaker 3: nine hundred miles away. But you know where those bats were,
Speaker 3: You know where the virus was in the Wuhan Institute
Speaker 3: for Virology. It was nine miles away. In the book Unwoke,
Speaker 3: I calculate the odds. The odds are less than one
Speaker 3: in ten thousand that you would have an outbreak of
Speaker 3: a virus of the same type being studied in the
Speaker 3: lab that just happened to be less than ten miles
Speaker 3: away from where they're studying. That was compelling, and we
Speaker 3: knew that at the outset. We also knew early on
Speaker 3: that there were multiple doctors and medical professionals who were
Speaker 3: hospitalized in November and December of twenty nineteen, right before
Speaker 3: the COVID pandemic broke out, and they were from the
Speaker 3: Wuhan Institute of Virology. That is compelling as well. And
Speaker 3: the behavior of our government was so infuriating because it
Speaker 3: didn't engage in rational, reasonable inquiry. Where did this come from?
Speaker 3: By the way, now several years later, the FBI has
Speaker 3: publicly concluded that they believe the virus came from the
Speaker 3: wuhunting Stude for Virology. But doctor Fauci has he ever
Speaker 3: once went on national television and said I'm sorry no,
Speaker 3: and he's so self righteous that those words could not
Speaker 3: come from his mouth.
Speaker 2: It's not just that they won't come from his mouth.
Speaker 2: There's also questions now about did he mislead or use
Speaker 2: another word, lie to Congress under oath on some of
Speaker 2: these issues when he was asked, well, compared to what
Speaker 2: he's talking about now, there's a lot of people asking
Speaker 2: will there ever be accountability? I'm going to ask you,
Speaker 2: I think I know the answer. Is there ever going
Speaker 2: to be accountability for anyone if they miss lead or
Speaker 2: flat out light to Congress?
Speaker 3: If you're on the Democratic side, you know there hasn't
Speaker 3: been in our lifetime. And I will say as long
Speaker 3: as it is the Biden Department of Justice. This Department
Speaker 3: of Justice is politicized, it's weaponized, and they have zero interest.
Speaker 3: I've asked the Attorney General, I've asked the Department of Justice,
Speaker 3: are you going to prosecute Anthony Fauci for lying to
Speaker 3: Congress under oath? That is a felony? And they just
Speaker 3: defiantly say we don't comment on investigations, which is their
Speaker 3: way of saying no, but it's also their way of
Speaker 3: saying I don't answer the American people, screw you. And
Speaker 3: that sadly is the view of Berrick Garland the DOJ,
Speaker 3: which brings me to story number two.
Speaker 2: Perfect segue here, Hunter Biden made a surprise appearance.
Speaker 1: It was clearly a stunt.
Speaker 2: The reason why I say it was a stunt is
Speaker 2: based in fact the Secret Service was there more than
Speaker 2: an hour before he showed up for this House Oversight
Speaker 2: Committee mark up hearing on holding him in contempt. We
Speaker 2: also know that the Democrats had poster boards made for
Speaker 2: his surprise appearance, so they clearly were in on it
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: And Hunter Biden.
Speaker 2: Showed up this House Oversight Committee mark up hearing on
Speaker 2: holding him in contempt. And the reason why I think
Speaker 2: he did it and knew he could do it and
Speaker 2: could show up in what many described as a shocking
Speaker 2: appearance at his own contempt hearing, is because he knows
Speaker 2: what you just mentioned that the DOJ is not going
Speaker 2: to prosecute him for of Congress charges, even though they
Speaker 2: did do it against every person get their hands on
Speaker 2: that was ready to Donald J.
Speaker 1: Trump.
Speaker 2: But they will not hold the president's son accountable for
Speaker 2: his actions here. And that's the part that is I
Speaker 2: think the most disgusting about this. Let get me your
Speaker 2: initial reaction, then we'll dive more into the story about
Speaker 2: some of the questions he was asked as well at
Speaker 2: this committee hearing after he left.
Speaker 3: Look, Hunter Biden embodies the same arrogant contempt that doctor
Speaker 3: Fauci does. In both instance, they have the belief that
Speaker 3: they will never be held to account, that they can
Speaker 3: do whatever they want, that there are no consequences. Hunter
Speaker 3: Biden showed up just to say screw you to the Congress,
Speaker 3: but to say screw you to the American people that
Speaker 3: I'm the son of the President. I can do whatever
Speaker 3: i want. And he knows the Biden Department of Justice,
Speaker 3: they're going to mean no consequences. The arrogant contempt. And
Speaker 3: by the way, it's consistent. It is Hunter Biden's approach.
Speaker 3: It is Fauci's approach, approach, it is Garland's approach, It
Speaker 3: is Alejandra Majorcis's approach, it is Joe Biden's approach. This
Speaker 3: administration has a dripping contempt Number one for Congress, they
Speaker 3: do not believe any oversight is appropriate on anything. And
Speaker 3: number two for the American people, because look, if you're
Speaker 3: contemptuous to Congress, listen when I'm in a hearing, and
Speaker 3: I'm asking questions. What I'm trying to do, Ben, is
Speaker 3: ask the questions that I believe thirty million Texans want
Speaker 3: me to ask, ask the questions on behalf of the
Speaker 3: American people, and this administration believes it owes no answers whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Hunter showed up because he knew there would be no consequences. Now, frankly,
Speaker 3: I wish they'd said, Hunter, come to the table right now,
Speaker 3: let's question you right here. And now I wish they'd
Speaker 3: done that. And let's be clear. If you go back
Speaker 3: to last month, we did an extensive interview with James Comber.
Speaker 3: James Comer is doing a terrific job leading this investigation
Speaker 3: along with Jim Jordan. But we did a three part
Speaker 3: series with James Comber right before Christmas in which I
Speaker 3: urged him and I still believe the House should do this.
Speaker 3: Comber's committee wants Hunter to sit for a closed door deposition.
Speaker 3: I understand why a closed door deposition you can go
Speaker 3: into more detail, a lawyer can systematically walk through the facts,
Speaker 3: walk through the documents. It would be better to do
Speaker 3: it that way. Hunter is defying Congress and is going
Speaker 3: to be held in contempt. But in order for the
Speaker 3: contempt to be enforced, the Department of Justice has to
Speaker 3: prosecute it. They're not going to because Merrick Garland is
Speaker 3: a political hack, unfortunately, and that saddens me to say it,
Speaker 3: but it is how he's behaving. What I urged James
Speaker 3: Comer on this podcast to do as I said. Look,
Speaker 3: Hunter has claimed he will testify if it's at an
Speaker 3: open hearing. What I'm merging, House Republicans, do it, do it?
Speaker 1: Do it? Do it?
Speaker 3: Remember, Hunter Biden is not the target. Nobody would care
Speaker 3: about Hunter Biden's tragic life is if his name was
Speaker 3: Hunter Smith. The target of this investigation is Joe Biden
Speaker 3: because it is Joe Biden who is fundamentally corrupted, is
Speaker 3: corrupting the office of President of the United States. It
Speaker 3: is Joe Biden who, the evidence suggests, for years has
Speaker 3: made a business of selling favors from official government office.
Speaker 3: Now Hunter has been the bagman. Hunter has been the
Speaker 3: one going and shaking down fourgn oligarchs. But it is
Speaker 3: Joe Biden that is the target. And if the House
Speaker 3: continues to insist on the closed door deposition, they will
Speaker 3: waste all of twenty twenty four, Hunter can tie that
Speaker 3: up in litigation for the rest of the year. And
Speaker 3: by the way, I'm going to make a prediction right now, Ben,
Speaker 3: this is not what I like. My prediction is, in
Speaker 3: December of twenty twenty four, Joe Biden will pardon Hunter.
Speaker 3: Biden really, that's my prediction. He'll be after the election,
Speaker 3: very likely.
Speaker 1: Win or lose. You say, he'll do it no matter
Speaker 1: what win or lose.
Speaker 3: If Biden were to win, I think he'll delay the
Speaker 3: pardon until right before Hunter goes to jail. But if
Speaker 3: Biden is losing, I'd put the odds at ninety five
Speaker 3: percent that in December of this year, if Biden has
Speaker 3: just lost the general election, that he pardons his son
Speaker 3: and he gives him a scot free get out of
Speaker 3: jail pass. And so understand, Hunter's legal strategy is delay
Speaker 3: eleven months, delay eleven months, don't go to jail for
Speaker 3: eleven months, and then Daddy gives you get out of
Speaker 3: jail free card. And it's why the House needs to
Speaker 3: keep their eye on the ball and bring Hunter for
Speaker 3: the public hearing. Now, maybe Hunter will refuse to show
Speaker 3: up there, but it's harder because he's been so vocal
Speaker 3: saying he would do it in public. Take him up
Speaker 3: on the offer, call the bluff.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: One of the things that they said at the House
Speaker 2: Oversight Committee, and I'm going to quote it, says Donald
Speaker 2: Trump Junior came before this committee. He came before the
Speaker 2: House Intelligence Committee. He came before the House Judiciary Committee.
Speaker 2: He came before the Senate Intelligence Committee twice. He came
Speaker 2: before the so called January sixth Committee. All of those
Speaker 2: were behind closed door, behind closed doors where lawyers can
Speaker 2: sit down both sides of the aisle and have a
Speaker 2: conversation and go through documents, all under oath, which is
Speaker 2: the president for any committee. What is Hunter Biden afraid of?
Speaker 2: That was a question asked by Congressman Waltz, who ripped
Speaker 2: into the Democrats hypocrisy during this House Oversight Committee hearing.
Speaker 2: He's absolutely right. But there is a lot of Americans
Speaker 2: right now that are listening to this. They're going to say, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're angry, repset, but it seems like the the game
Speaker 2: is rigged.
Speaker 1: It seems like the system is rigged.
Speaker 2: Republicans go to prison, Democrats don't even have to show
Speaker 2: up for a hearing.
Speaker 1: It's just not right, is there any way to fix this.
Speaker 3: Yes, elect principled leaders who will reimpose the rule of
Speaker 3: law at the Department of Justice. We talked about my
Speaker 3: book on Woke, the book I wrote before that is
Speaker 3: Justice Corrupted, How the Left is weaponized the legal system.
Speaker 3: This is this really began in serious form under Barack Obama,
Speaker 3: where Barack Obama began using the Department of Justice, began
Speaker 3: using the FBI, began using the IRS, began using the
Speaker 3: intelligence community to target his political enemies, and the double standard.
Speaker 3: Barack Obama was treated by the media as Saint Barack.
Speaker 3: And what happened for eight years he weaponized. He put
Speaker 3: in place hardcore partisans who burrowed in to senior career position.
Speaker 3: When Trump became president, those partisans were in senior career
Speaker 3: positions and they spent four years with the federal government,
Speaker 3: the executive branch, waging war on the democratically elected president
Speaker 3: of the United States. Now under Joe Biden, they're out
Speaker 3: in the open. They're not hiding their brazen They've convinced
Speaker 3: themselves Trump is Hitler, and because Trump is Hitler, in
Speaker 3: their mind, anything is justified to defeat Hitler, and so
Speaker 3: they indict him and they indict him, and they indict him,
Speaker 3: and they abuse their power, and they protect their friends.
Speaker 3: Fauci will never be held to account. Hunter Biden will
Speaker 3: never be held to account, and Joe Biden, especially especially especially,
Speaker 3: will never be held to account. The only answer is
Speaker 3: to elect a president of the United States who appoints
Speaker 3: people to the Department of Justice, to the FBI, to
Speaker 3: these government agencies, who is strong, who is insightful enough,
Speaker 3: who knows what they're doing, and will clean out the
Speaker 3: hardcore partisans that have corrupted these agencies.
Speaker 2: One of the things that I also think, we go
Speaker 2: back to what I said a moment ago, and I
Speaker 2: do want to get your take on this, is that
Speaker 2: this was all just a stunt, and it very well
Speaker 2: could have been to actually make money.
Speaker 1: There is a camera.
Speaker 2: Crew or camera cruise Pearl that we're on Capitol Hill,
Speaker 2: and there is a documentary that's being filmed about Joe Biden,
Speaker 2: and I guess Hunter Biden and all of this quote
Speaker 2: persecution against him. If this was for the cameras and
Speaker 2: they were using Congress in this way, what does that
Speaker 2: also say just about where we are as a country
Speaker 2: and the fact that we're allowing this to happen within
Speaker 2: the walls of Congress, where it's like, hey, you want
Speaker 2: to do a documentary, you want to have your moment,
Speaker 2: come on in and make a charade and a mockery
Speaker 2: of what we actually do in Congress.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I don't know the motivation. I don't know
Speaker 3: if that's why. I can tell you Joe Biden in
Speaker 3: the White House, we're not happy about this. So Hunter
Speaker 3: was not looking out for the political interest of Daddy
Speaker 3: in doing this was an act of arrogance and defiance.
Speaker 3: And look, Hunter has lived a life where arrogance and
Speaker 3: defiance have characterized much of his conduct. You know, you
Speaker 3: look at the WhatsApp texts that he sent to the
Speaker 3: Chinese communists saying I'm sitting here with my father, send
Speaker 3: us millions of dollars right now. Like there is an arrogance,
Speaker 3: there's an entitlement his entire life. His the business plan
Speaker 3: of the Biden family was to sell favors from Daddy
Speaker 3: and to shake down corrupt oligarchs. And that is Chinese,
Speaker 3: that is Russian, that is Ukrainian. It's by the way,
Speaker 3: you know, Hunter has no business that we know of
Speaker 3: in England or France or Germany or Italy. He has
Speaker 3: no business in countries that are allies and friends. His
Speaker 3: business is going to corrupt nations who are often our
Speaker 3: enemies or to minimum significantly antagonistic to us, and get
Speaker 3: paid massive seven figure amounts from those corrupt oligarchs. And
Speaker 3: and and that the arrogance of this. I'm sure the
Speaker 3: Biden white House was very unhappy Hunter did this because
Speaker 3: it drew a lot of attention to just how contemptuous
Speaker 3: he is. He is the dauphant. He is the child
Speaker 3: of the Emperor, clothed in impunity, and and and and
Speaker 3: it's uh, it is obvious to anyone watching this fairly
Speaker 3: and impartially.
Speaker 2: One of the things that you mentioned was this really
Speaker 2: didn't go well from the White House perspective. A perfect
Speaker 2: example of that was after he walked out of this meeting,
Speaker 2: he was asked a question, and this was the question
Speaker 2: from a Fox reporter.
Speaker 1: It didn't go well. Listen, mister Biden, why did you
Speaker 1: put your dad on speakerphone with your business partners if
Speaker 1: he had no involvement in your business?
Speaker 3: You have a dad, yes, yes, good, But why did
Speaker 3: you need to talk to him during business meetings if
Speaker 3: he had nothing to do with your business.
Speaker 2: I mean, that was one of those moments obviously he
Speaker 2: wasn't planning for. He didn't answer the second part of
Speaker 2: that question, just kept walking. But I think he realized, Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe this wasn't perfect, because those are the questions that
Speaker 2: he opened himself up to in the halls of Congress
Speaker 2: as he was making the long walk out of that
Speaker 2: committee hearing room.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, that's exactly right. And mind you, every Democrat,
Speaker 3: you know, you didn't see a single Democrat who said, gosh,
Speaker 3: there's some serious issues here. Gosh, we really should hear
Speaker 3: from from Hunter. We should hear about was he extorting
Speaker 3: millions of dollars from foreign oligarchs. No congressional democrat cares.
Speaker 3: This is warfare, This is political warfare, and the facts
Speaker 3: do not matter. So that question you would never hear
Speaker 3: a congressional Democrat ask in the House or the Senate.
Speaker 2: I want to move, lastly to another major issue that
Speaker 2: has broken, and it deals with our national security, and
Speaker 2: I want to know what you think about these new
Speaker 2: warnings that are coming, and that is it's not shocking,
Speaker 2: but it certainly is a sobering moment. We know we
Speaker 2: have an open southern border. We know that more of
Speaker 2: people on the Terrace watch lists were caught last year
Speaker 2: coming across the southern border in the last five years
Speaker 2: before it combined. And now there's a new report coming
Speaker 2: out from Politico that American intel officials are warning of
Speaker 2: a risk of a hes blot attack not just on
Speaker 2: US men and women around the world and service members
Speaker 2: in some of our bases, but also a real elevated
Speaker 2: risk at home. Four officials familiar with the intelligence have
Speaker 2: confirmed this to Politico that they're worried about attacks here
Speaker 2: outside of what we've seen from Isis and al Kada,
Speaker 2: where it's lone wolf type attacks, where they could be
Speaker 2: coming into this country already in this country and planning
Speaker 2: a major attack.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's exactly right, and I've said before
Speaker 3: I think the of a major terrorist attack in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four is greater than it has been at any
Speaker 3: time since September eleventh, two thousand and one. That we
Speaker 3: have right down number one, a war the Middle East.
Speaker 3: In Israel, Hamas and Hesbela have called upon their terrorists
Speaker 3: to wage jahad not just against Israel but against America.
Speaker 3: And we have an open border on our southern border.
Speaker 3: Due to Joe Biden and the Democrats, nine point six
Speaker 3: million people have crossed illegally into this country under Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: When I was last down on the southern border, I'm
Speaker 3: down there a lot. Multiple border patrol agents told me
Speaker 3: they were deeply concerned about the risk of Hamas terrorists
Speaker 3: and Hesbela terrorists crossing the border because Joe Biden it
Speaker 3: continues to be an open border to this day. They
Speaker 3: could be crossing right now as we are speaking. Hamas
Speaker 3: and Hesbela terrists could be crossing in. And what is
Speaker 3: so frustrating is if you were a Hamas commander, Ben,
Speaker 3: you would send terrorists in. It's a glaring vulnerability that
Speaker 3: Joe Biden the Democrats don't care to solve. So this
Speaker 3: political article that just came out quoted a senior US
Speaker 3: intelligence official is saying, and this is a quote Hesbela
Speaker 3: could draw on the capability they have to put people
Speaker 3: in places to do something. It is something to be
Speaker 3: worried about, said the official. And this is consistent with
Speaker 3: We did a previous podcast where we read the memo
Speaker 3: that Customs and Border Patrol had sent to border patrol
Speaker 3: agents saying be on particular guard for Hamas and Hesbela
Speaker 3: terrorists and also Palestinian Islamic Jehad terrorists trying to cross
Speaker 3: the border. And it is astonishing to me that even
Speaker 3: in the face of that risk, which suddenly the FBI
Speaker 3: is publicly acknowledging we're six months ago, they were not
Speaker 3: acknowledging it, they are now. And what that tells me
Speaker 3: is is the classified intel is even worse than what
Speaker 3: we know in public.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't have to leap very far to
Speaker 2: get from point A to point B on something as
Speaker 2: simplistic of Hey, if you are a terrorist organization, are
Speaker 2: you going to take the risk of putting people that
Speaker 2: can be on the terrorists watch list on airplanes and
Speaker 2: try to get them into the country that way? Or
Speaker 2: are you just going to get them to come across
Speaker 2: the southern open border when there's millions of people that
Speaker 2: have already it's worked successfully for You know that if
Speaker 2: you are not on the watch list and they catch you,
Speaker 2: about eighty plus percent of your being released into the
Speaker 2: interior of this country. And if you want to be
Speaker 2: one of the godaways, it's not that hard. You've witnessed
Speaker 2: it firsthand at the southern border, and yet this administration
Speaker 2: refuses to admit that's a national security risk. And I
Speaker 2: think even now if you ask them, they would refuse
Speaker 2: to acknowledge the existence of a real terrorist threat because
Speaker 2: of an open southern border. And you got to ask
Speaker 2: yourself at that point, like what does it take for
Speaker 2: them to get their heads out of that. We're in
Speaker 2: senator and understand, this isn't just about an open border
Speaker 2: a border policy, this is about a national security policy
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: Now, look that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Christy Abbezide, who is the director of the National counter
Speaker 3: Terrorism Center, said during a congressional hearing on October. Here's
Speaker 3: what she said, quote, Iran, Hezbollah and their linked proxies
Speaker 3: are trying to calibrate their activity, avoiding actions that would
Speaker 3: open up a concerted second front with the United States
Speaker 3: or Israel, while still exacting costs in the midst of
Speaker 3: the current conflict. This is a very fine line to walk,
Speaker 3: and in the present regional context, their actions carry the
Speaker 3: potential for miscalculation. This is what they're admitting. Here's what
Speaker 3: Anthony Blink and the Secretary of State said, quote, this
Speaker 3: is a moment of found tension in the region. This
Speaker 3: is a conflict that could easily metastasize. And yet even
Speaker 3: as they're admitting that they're not willing to secure the border.
Speaker 3: Here's what Chris Ray said in a congressional hearing on
Speaker 3: November fifteenth. Quote, the arrest of individuals in the United
Speaker 3: States allegedly linked to hesbela's main overseas terrorist arm and
Speaker 3: their intelligence collection and procurement efforts demonstrate hesbela's interests in
Speaker 3: the long term contingency planning activities here in the homeland.
Speaker 3: And none of this is persuasive to Joe Biden, or
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris or Alejandro Majorcis or any of the congressional
Speaker 3: Democrats who are all willing to turn a blind eye
Speaker 3: and say, right now, today, whenever you're listening to this podcast,
Speaker 3: if you're listening to this podcast at six in the morning,
Speaker 3: if you're listening to this podcast at noon, if you're
Speaker 3: listening to this podcast at six pm, or if you're
Speaker 3: listening to this podcast at midnight, whatever time you're listening
Speaker 3: to it, right now, there are people crossing illegally into
Speaker 3: this country, and the Biden administration is doing nothing to
Speaker 3: stop them. In the last three years, there have been
Speaker 3: over two million god Aways. Those are people that have
Speaker 3: evaded capture. We know about them, but they didn't turn
Speaker 3: themselves in, whereas the bulk of the people who came
Speaker 3: did turn themselves in. The god Aways are the most dangerous.
Speaker 3: You want to know where the terrorists are, They're the
Speaker 3: god Aways. You want to know where the criminals are,
Speaker 3: They're the god Aways. The murderers, the rapists, they're the
Speaker 3: god Aways. You want to know where the gang members
Speaker 3: the MS thirteen are, They're the god Aways. And I
Speaker 3: don't know what it will take to get this administration
Speaker 3: to actually step up and say we're going to keep
Speaker 3: the American people safe from a terror attack?
Speaker 1: Is it arrogance?
Speaker 2: Last question on this, is it arrogance that you know, oh,
Speaker 2: we know better because there is a younger age that
Speaker 2: is serving in the House now than we've seen that
Speaker 2: maybe doesn't understand or remember truly what happened on nine
Speaker 2: to eleven. Is it an arrogance of the Democratic Party
Speaker 2: that they just don't care about history in the past.
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember nine to eleven like it was yesterday.
Speaker 2: I know you do as well, and many Americans do.
Speaker 2: And when you hear this type of threat. You can
Speaker 2: imagine it because you've lived through nine to eleven. You
Speaker 2: can imagine what it looks like when you allow Hasbala
Speaker 2: terrorists to come across the southern border, and what they
Speaker 2: can do if they are well trained, which they are,
Speaker 2: and if they can get their hands on what they
Speaker 2: need to carry out a significant tears attack. And I said,
Speaker 2: here and go, how do you not remember nine to eleven?
Speaker 2: Where is the disconnect here?
Speaker 3: Well, look for one thing. Nine to eleven was twenty
Speaker 3: two years ago. Twenty two years ago is a long time.
Speaker 3: You and I, although we think we're spring chickens, we're
Speaker 3: not anymore. You're in your forties. I'm in my fifties.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of people There is not a
Speaker 3: single college kid who remembers nine to eleven. There are
Speaker 3: a lot of people in their thirties who nine to
Speaker 3: eleven is a distant memory from their childhood. And look,
Speaker 3: I get it, you know. For me, I think about
Speaker 3: like Pearl Harbor. I know about Pearl Harbor. It's a
Speaker 3: horrible day in history, It's a horrible day in US history.
Speaker 3: But do I have a personal emotional reaction to Pearl Harbor? No?
Speaker 3: It happened long before I was born, so it's kind
Speaker 3: of I've read about it, but I didn't live through it.
Speaker 3: So there is a dynamic that many people in America
Speaker 3: were getting far enough beyond nine to eleven that many
Speaker 3: people don't have a personal acute memory. And then I
Speaker 3: think beyond that, what has happened is is that we've
Speaker 3: seen the Democrat Party in Washington radicalized. And it's been
Speaker 3: happening for a while. Barack Obama started this process of
Speaker 3: radicalizing it, and then Trump becoming president broke their brains.
Speaker 3: They hate Trump so much that I actually just think
Speaker 3: they've convinced themsel that anything is justified fighting Trump, and
Speaker 3: the result of it is that they're embracing radical policies.
Speaker 3: And because the press, Trump broke the press, the media
Speaker 3: doesn't report on this, and so the Democrats are radicalized
Speaker 3: because they know they will never be asked back home
Speaker 3: about the extreme policies they're supporting.
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