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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator.

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot to talk about, including new possible

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Speaker 2: threats against this country from terrorist organizations. We also have

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Speaker 2: this just total insane moment for the cameras of a

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Speaker 2: documentary with Hunter Biden coming to Washington. We're going to

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Speaker 2: deal with that and then walking out, then trying to

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Speaker 2: have a press conference.

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Speaker 1: It was just a charade.

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Speaker 2: But before we get to that, the story that will

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Speaker 2: just make so many people frustrated and want to just

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Speaker 2: throw something against their computer screen is the fact that

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Speaker 2: doctor Anthony Fauci, he went behind closed doors and they

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Speaker 2: asked him about social distancing. Now, this is a guy

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Speaker 2: that shut down our entire economy, He shut down our schools,

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Speaker 2: he shut down our businesses, and they asked him about

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Speaker 2: social distancing and that random six foot rule and his words,

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Speaker 2: and I'm quoting Senator, it sort of just appeared. Really

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Speaker 2: that's how they came up with the science that we

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Speaker 2: were supposed to follow.

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Speaker 1: Your I mean your reaction.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's infuriating, and I think doctor Fauci is the

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Speaker 3: most dangerous, the most damaging and dishonest bureaucrat. Our nation's

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Speaker 3: history has ever seen Anthony Fauci's eighty three years old

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Speaker 3: and the damage he did during the COVID vaccine he

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Speaker 3: got You know, there's an old line about drug dealers,

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Speaker 3: don't get high on your own supply. He got high

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Speaker 3: on his own supply, and he believed, he believed in

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Speaker 3: what he was saying, but he didn't care if it

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Speaker 3: was true or not. He was engaged in politics. It

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Speaker 3: was about power.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: We've talked on this podcast in a number of times

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Speaker 3: about my brand new book, Unwoke, How to Defeat Cultural

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Speaker 3: Marxism in America. There's an entire chapter in Unwoke that

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Speaker 3: has focused on science, and it's focused on the politicization

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Speaker 3: of science. That science and during COVID medical science becoming

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Speaker 3: a political endeavor rather than being based on actual data

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Speaker 3: and evidence. So how this became public His doctor Fauci

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Speaker 3: gave closed door testimony to the House Select Committee on

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Speaker 3: the coronavirus pandemic, and he said a number of things.

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Speaker 3: He said, what you just pointed out When he was

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Speaker 3: asked about the six foot rule, he said, quote it

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Speaker 3: it sort of just appeared the hell does that mean?

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Speaker 3: It sort of just appeared. You made it up. Look

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Speaker 3: on masks, and I go through this at length in

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Speaker 3: the book on Woke on Masks. When Sylvia Burwell, who

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Speaker 3: was the Secretary of Health and Human Services under Obama,

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Speaker 3: when she asked, Hey, should I wear a mask? He said,

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Speaker 3: in writing at the beginning of COVID, No, you shouldn't

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Speaker 3: wear a mask. Mask don't really do anything. They're not

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Speaker 3: effective against this virus. Don't wear it. And then just

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Speaker 3: a couple of months later, boom, everyone must wear a

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Speaker 3: mask or you're thrown off an air, your ban from

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Speaker 3: public society, and you're killing people. I mean, it became

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Speaker 3: so overstated, and he was also asked He was also

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Speaker 3: asked about the lab Lee hypothesis. Now, one of the

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Speaker 3: things I'm most proud of this podcast we did in

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Speaker 3: March and April of twenty twenty, right at the beginning

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Speaker 3: of COVID. We did two full episodes laying out all

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Speaker 3: of the evidence back then that the COVID virus escaped

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Speaker 3: from a Chinese government lab. I think as early as

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Speaker 3: March of twenty twenty that evidence was clear. I think

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Speaker 3: it is overwhelmingly likely that the COVID virus escaped from

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Speaker 3: the Wuhan Institute of Virology. I also think it is

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Speaker 3: quite likely, not as overwhelming. It hasn't been demonstrated as conclusively,

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Speaker 3: but I think it is more likely than not that

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Speaker 3: the COVID virus was manufactured in that Chinese government lab.

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Speaker 3: That they started with a naturally occurring virus, and then

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Speaker 3: they engage in gain A function research to change the virus,

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Speaker 3: to make it more deadly, to make it more transmissible,

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Speaker 3: to make it easier to target humans. And we know

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Speaker 3: and this again I lay out in great length in

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Speaker 3: the book Unwoke that doctor Fauci asked Mark Zuckerberg at Facebook,

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Speaker 3: will you suppress anyone saying that this virus came from

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Speaker 3: a Chinese government lab? And Facebook was more than happy

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Speaker 3: to do so. And now a couple of years later,

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Speaker 3: this came from a Chinese government lab.

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to the six foot and

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Speaker 2: then we'll get into the Wuhan part, because I do

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Speaker 2: think it's important that we break this down a little

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Speaker 2: bit for people. I was envisioning and I was trying

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Speaker 2: to figure out in my mind, I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 2: how would you have come up with you know, remember

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Speaker 2: these people we're saying, follow the science, and how would.

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Speaker 1: You come up with a six foot rule?

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Speaker 2: And there's part of me center that thinks there was

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Speaker 2: some people in a room at NIH and they're like,

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Speaker 2: all right, we need to come up with some regulations here.

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Speaker 2: We need to come up with something it looks proactive.

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Speaker 2: And they're like, all right, well, what if we just

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Speaker 2: they're like, all right, well, how many feet? Who's got

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Speaker 2: a ruler? All right, well, you stand three feet apart? No,

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Speaker 2: that looks too close. All right, what does four feet

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Speaker 2: about five? Now, let's make it six. Six seems like

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Speaker 2: it looks like you're far enough apart from the other

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Speaker 2: person that somehow it seems like we know what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: The scary part is there's a pretty good chance that's

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Speaker 2: exactly what happened. Yeah, and then they were telling us

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Speaker 2: you had to follow the science.

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Speaker 1: They just made this crap up. They had no idea

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Speaker 1: what they were doing.

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Speaker 3: Look, that's exactly right, And there's no basis for six

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Speaker 3: feet being the magic number for a virus. Now, look,

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Speaker 3: I'll give them a little bit of great At the

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Speaker 3: time the COVID pandemic started, people were scared and they

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Speaker 3: didn't know what they were dealing with. And there are

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Speaker 3: trying to be helpful and trying to figure out rules.

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Speaker 3: And what actually made common sense, particularly when this thing

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Speaker 3: people who were vulnerable. We saw COVID the people who

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Speaker 3: were very elderly, people who had significant immuno deficiencies, They

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Speaker 3: at the outset of this. What didn't make sense is

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Speaker 3: to become just obsessive tyrants about masks, about COVID vaccines

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Speaker 3: and so. Look, I can understand when they're trying to say, okay,

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Speaker 3: what might help. And there was some desire and a

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Speaker 3: reasonable desire to reopen society, like any rational person wanted

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Speaker 3: Maybe some separation, you can understand how you get to that.

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Speaker 3: But what Fauci did the way he did this is

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Speaker 3: he closed himself in a self righteous arrogance. What he

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Speaker 3: said in one interview, he said, I am the science.

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Speaker 3: When you question me, you are questioning the science. And

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Speaker 3: actually in the book Unwoke, I entitled the chapter on science,

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Speaker 3: I don't know actually call it science. I call it

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Speaker 3: the science and the definitive article, I mean it was

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Speaker 3: it was you needed to have a chorus of angels

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Speaker 3: every time he said the science you needed all and

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Speaker 3: it was it was the self righteousness and the tyranny

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Speaker 3: is what is so infuriating. And he hasn't backed away

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Speaker 2: you brought up the Wuhan theory, which was actually not

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Speaker 2: a crazy theory, there was a lot of intel that

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Speaker 2: from that area where the lockdowns initially started in China

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Speaker 2: were right there. How there was no cell phone being

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Speaker 2: was a lot of things that pointed to evidence that

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Speaker 2: this came from the Wuhan inseudivirology. And if you or

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Speaker 2: the federal government went to them as you mentioned, and said,

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what they ended up doing.

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Speaker 3: Well, look what we knew early on, the outbreak occurred

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Speaker 3: in Wuhan, China. Where it occurred was nine miles away

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Speaker 3: it was studying coronaviruses from bats. Now, mind you remember

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Speaker 3: nine hundred miles away. But you know where those bats were,

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Speaker 3: You know where the virus was in the Wuhan Institute

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Speaker 3: for Virology. It was nine miles away. In the book Unwoke,

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Speaker 3: I calculate the odds. The odds are less than one

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Speaker 3: Wuhan Institute of Virology. That is compelling as well. And

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Speaker 3: the behavior of our government was so infuriating because it

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Speaker 3: By the way, now several years later, the FBI has

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Speaker 2: It's not just that they won't come from his mouth.

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Speaker 2: There's also questions now about did he mislead or use

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Speaker 3: Look, Hunter Biden embodies the same arrogant contempt that doctor

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Speaker 3: Hunter showed up because he knew there would be no consequences. Now, frankly,

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Speaker 3: Comber's committee wants Hunter to sit for a closed door deposition.

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Speaker 3: Remember, Hunter Biden is not the target. Nobody would care

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Speaker 3: by the way, I'm going to make a prediction right now, Ben,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that they said at the House

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Speaker 1: It seems like the system is rigged.

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Speaker 2: Republicans go to prison, Democrats don't even have to show

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Speaker 1: It's just not right, is there any way to fix this.

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Speaker 3: Yes, elect principled leaders who will reimpose the rule of

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Speaker 3: This is this really began in serious form under Barack Obama,

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Speaker 2: Crew or camera cruise Pearl that we're on Capitol Hill,

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Speaker 2: and I guess Hunter Biden and all of this quote

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I don't know the motivation. I don't know

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Speaker 1: put your dad on speakerphone with your business partners if

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Speaker 1: he had no involvement in your business?

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Speaker 3: You have a dad, yes, yes, good, But why did

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Speaker 3: you need to talk to him during business meetings if

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Speaker 3: he had nothing to do with your business.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was one of those moments obviously he

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Speaker 2: wasn't planning for. He didn't answer the second part of

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Speaker 2: that question, just kept walking. But I think he realized, Okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe this wasn't perfect, because those are the questions that

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Speaker 2: he opened himself up to in the halls of Congress

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Speaker 2: as he was making the long walk out of that

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Speaker 2: committee hearing room.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, that's exactly right. And mind you, every Democrat,

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Speaker 3: you know, you didn't see a single Democrat who said, gosh,

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Speaker 3: there's some serious issues here. Gosh, we really should hear

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Speaker 3: from from Hunter. We should hear about was he extorting

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Speaker 3: millions of dollars from foreign oligarchs. No congressional democrat cares.

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Speaker 3: This is warfare, This is political warfare, and the facts

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Speaker 3: do not matter. So that question you would never hear

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Speaker 3: a congressional Democrat ask in the House or the Senate.

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Speaker 2: I want to move, lastly to another major issue that

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Speaker 2: has broken, and it deals with our national security, and

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Speaker 2: I want to know what you think about these new

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Speaker 2: warnings that are coming, and that is it's not shocking,

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Speaker 2: but it certainly is a sobering moment. We know we

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Speaker 2: have an open southern border. We know that more of

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Speaker 2: people on the Terrace watch lists were caught last year

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Speaker 2: coming across the southern border in the last five years

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Speaker 2: before it combined. And now there's a new report coming

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Speaker 2: out from Politico that American intel officials are warning of

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Speaker 2: a risk of a hes blot attack not just on

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Speaker 2: US men and women around the world and service members

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Speaker 2: in some of our bases, but also a real elevated

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Speaker 2: risk at home. Four officials familiar with the intelligence have

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Speaker 2: confirmed this to Politico that they're worried about attacks here

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Speaker 2: outside of what we've seen from Isis and al Kada,

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Speaker 2: where it's lone wolf type attacks, where they could be

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Speaker 2: coming into this country already in this country and planning

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Speaker 2: a major attack.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that's exactly right, and I've said before

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Speaker 3: I think the of a major terrorist attack in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four is greater than it has been at any

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Speaker 3: time since September eleventh, two thousand and one. That we

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Speaker 3: have right down number one, a war the Middle East.

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Speaker 3: In Israel, Hamas and Hesbela have called upon their terrorists

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Speaker 3: to wage jahad not just against Israel but against America.

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Speaker 3: And we have an open border on our southern border.

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Speaker 3: Due to Joe Biden and the Democrats, nine point six

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Speaker 3: million people have crossed illegally into this country under Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: When I was last down on the southern border, I'm

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Speaker 3: down there a lot. Multiple border patrol agents told me

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Speaker 3: they were deeply concerned about the risk of Hamas terrorists

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Speaker 3: and Hesbela terrorists crossing the border because Joe Biden it

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Speaker 3: continues to be an open border to this day. They

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Speaker 3: could be crossing right now as we are speaking. Hamas

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Speaker 3: and Hesbela terrists could be crossing in. And what is

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Speaker 3: so frustrating is if you were a Hamas commander, Ben,

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Speaker 3: you would send terrorists in. It's a glaring vulnerability that

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden the Democrats don't care to solve. So this

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Speaker 3: political article that just came out quoted a senior US

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Speaker 3: intelligence official is saying, and this is a quote Hesbela

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Speaker 3: could draw on the capability they have to put people

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Speaker 3: in places to do something. It is something to be

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Speaker 3: worried about, said the official. And this is consistent with

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Speaker 3: We did a previous podcast where we read the memo

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Speaker 3: that Customs and Border Patrol had sent to border patrol

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Speaker 3: agents saying be on particular guard for Hamas and Hesbela

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Speaker 3: terrorists and also Palestinian Islamic Jehad terrorists trying to cross

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Speaker 3: the border. And it is astonishing to me that even

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Speaker 3: in the face of that risk, which suddenly the FBI

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Speaker 3: is publicly acknowledging we're six months ago, they were not

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Speaker 3: acknowledging it, they are now. And what that tells me

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Speaker 3: is is the classified intel is even worse than what

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Speaker 3: we know in public.

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't have to leap very far to

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Speaker 2: get from point A to point B on something as

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Speaker 2: simplistic of Hey, if you are a terrorist organization, are

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Speaker 2: you going to take the risk of putting people that

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Speaker 2: can be on the terrorists watch list on airplanes and

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Speaker 2: try to get them into the country that way? Or

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Speaker 2: are you just going to get them to come across

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Speaker 2: the southern open border when there's millions of people that

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Speaker 2: have already it's worked successfully for You know that if

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Speaker 2: you are not on the watch list and they catch you,

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Speaker 2: about eighty plus percent of your being released into the

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Speaker 2: interior of this country. And if you want to be

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Speaker 2: one of the godaways, it's not that hard. You've witnessed

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Speaker 2: it firsthand at the southern border, and yet this administration

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Speaker 2: refuses to admit that's a national security risk. And I

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Speaker 2: think even now if you ask them, they would refuse

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge the existence of a real terrorist threat because

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Speaker 2: of an open southern border. And you got to ask

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Speaker 2: yourself at that point, like what does it take for

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Speaker 2: them to get their heads out of that. We're in

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Speaker 2: senator and understand, this isn't just about an open border

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Speaker 2: a border policy, this is about a national security policy

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: Now, look that's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Christy Abbezide, who is the director of the National counter

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Speaker 3: Terrorism Center, said during a congressional hearing on October. Here's

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Speaker 3: what she said, quote, Iran, Hezbollah and their linked proxies

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Speaker 3: are trying to calibrate their activity, avoiding actions that would

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Speaker 3: open up a concerted second front with the United States

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Speaker 3: or Israel, while still exacting costs in the midst of

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Speaker 3: the current conflict. This is a very fine line to walk,

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Speaker 3: and in the present regional context, their actions carry the

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Speaker 3: potential for miscalculation. This is what they're admitting. Here's what

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Speaker 3: Anthony Blink and the Secretary of State said, quote, this

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Speaker 3: is a moment of found tension in the region. This

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Speaker 3: is a conflict that could easily metastasize. And yet even

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Speaker 3: as they're admitting that they're not willing to secure the border.

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Speaker 3: Here's what Chris Ray said in a congressional hearing on

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Speaker 3: November fifteenth. Quote, the arrest of individuals in the United

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Speaker 3: States allegedly linked to hesbela's main overseas terrorist arm and

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Speaker 3: their intelligence collection and procurement efforts demonstrate hesbela's interests in

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Speaker 3: the long term contingency planning activities here in the homeland.

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Speaker 3: And none of this is persuasive to Joe Biden, or

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris or Alejandro Majorcis or any of the congressional

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Speaker 3: Democrats who are all willing to turn a blind eye

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Speaker 3: and say, right now, today, whenever you're listening to this podcast,

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Speaker 3: if you're listening to this podcast at six in the morning,

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Speaker 3: if you're listening to this podcast at noon, if you're

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Speaker 3: listening to this podcast at six pm, or if you're

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Speaker 3: listening to this podcast at midnight, whatever time you're listening

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Speaker 3: to it, right now, there are people crossing illegally into

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Speaker 3: this country, and the Biden administration is doing nothing to

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Speaker 3: stop them. In the last three years, there have been

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Speaker 3: over two million god Aways. Those are people that have

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Speaker 3: evaded capture. We know about them, but they didn't turn

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Speaker 3: themselves in, whereas the bulk of the people who came

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Speaker 3: did turn themselves in. The god Aways are the most dangerous.

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Speaker 3: You want to know where the terrorists are, They're the

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Speaker 3: god Aways. You want to know where the criminals are,

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Speaker 3: They're the god Aways. The murderers, the rapists, they're the

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Speaker 3: god Aways. You want to know where the gang members

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Speaker 3: the MS thirteen are, They're the god Aways. And I

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Speaker 3: don't know what it will take to get this administration

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Speaker 3: to actually step up and say we're going to keep

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Speaker 3: the American people safe from a terror attack?

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Speaker 1: Is it arrogance?

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Speaker 2: Last question on this, is it arrogance that you know, oh,

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Speaker 2: we know better because there is a younger age that

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Speaker 2: is serving in the House now than we've seen that

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Speaker 2: maybe doesn't understand or remember truly what happened on nine

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Speaker 2: to eleven. Is it an arrogance of the Democratic Party

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Speaker 2: that they just don't care about history in the past.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I remember nine to eleven like it was yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I know you do as well, and many Americans do.

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Speaker 2: And when you hear this type of threat. You can

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Speaker 2: imagine it because you've lived through nine to eleven. You

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Speaker 2: can imagine what it looks like when you allow Hasbala

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Speaker 2: terrorists to come across the southern border, and what they

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Speaker 2: can do if they are well trained, which they are,

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Speaker 2: and if they can get their hands on what they

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Speaker 2: need to carry out a significant tears attack. And I said,

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Speaker 2: here and go, how do you not remember nine to eleven?

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Speaker 2: Where is the disconnect here?

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Speaker 3: Well, look for one thing. Nine to eleven was twenty

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Speaker 3: two years ago. Twenty two years ago is a long time.

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Speaker 3: You and I, although we think we're spring chickens, we're

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Speaker 3: not anymore. You're in your forties. I'm in my fifties.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of people There is not a

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Speaker 3: single college kid who remembers nine to eleven. There are

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Speaker 3: a lot of people in their thirties who nine to

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Speaker 3: eleven is a distant memory from their childhood. And look,

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Speaker 3: I get it, you know. For me, I think about

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Speaker 3: like Pearl Harbor. I know about Pearl Harbor. It's a

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Speaker 3: horrible day in history, It's a horrible day in US history.

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Speaker 3: But do I have a personal emotional reaction to Pearl Harbor? No?

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Speaker 3: It happened long before I was born, so it's kind

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Speaker 3: of I've read about it, but I didn't live through it.

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Speaker 3: So there is a dynamic that many people in America

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Speaker 3: were getting far enough beyond nine to eleven that many

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Speaker 3: people don't have a personal acute memory. And then I

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Speaker 3: think beyond that, what has happened is is that we've

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Speaker 3: seen the Democrat Party in Washington radicalized. And it's been

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Speaker 3: happening for a while. Barack Obama started this process of

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Speaker 3: radicalizing it, and then Trump becoming president broke their brains.

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Speaker 3: They hate Trump so much that I actually just think

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Speaker 3: they've convinced themsel that anything is justified fighting Trump, and

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Speaker 3: the result of it is that they're embracing radical policies.

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Speaker 3: And because the press, Trump broke the press, the media

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Speaker 3: doesn't report on this, and so the Democrats are radicalized

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Speaker 3: because they know they will never be asked back home

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Speaker 3: about the extreme policies they're supporting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll keep covering it here.

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