1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Department of Justice Special counsel Jack Smith came out with 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: another indictment. This time I'm having to do with January sixth. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: The Federalists noted that Donald Trump has now been charged 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: with more than seventy five crimes, and many of them 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: from the Department of Justice. More than seventy five crimes. 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: He's probably going to be indicted out of Georgia. It 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: looks like as well, what does this all mean and 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: what does this mean for Donald Trump? What does this 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: mean for the country as the people who try to 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: get him are destroying the country in the process. We're 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: going to talk to Kurt Schlichter, who's a columnist for 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: town Hall. He's also a former Army veteran an attorney. 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: We're going to get his take on all of this. 14 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: So what does it mean? Kurts? 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: Next, stay with us. 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: It's great to have you on my friend, first time 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: on the show, so I appreciate you making the time. 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. It's a lot of fun. 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: Well hopefully you still feel that way. We're done. 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: Let's talk about how you suck. Oh wait, this is 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: social media. 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: It's a little premature occurt, you know, I'm just getting 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: said all right, we'll jump into it for real. So 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, obviously a lot's happened. So Donald Trump has 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: now been charged, I think, with more than seventy five 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: crimes at this point, you know, many of them from 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice. This latest indictment from Jack Smith, 28 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice's Special counsel. What's he alleging in 29 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: this latest indictment that Trump did. 30 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I read the forty five page complaint 31 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: and then I read it again because I thought I 32 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: might have missed something. I wasn't. I missed the crime. 33 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 3: Apparently it's now a conspiracy to say something that has 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: been decreed not to be true. And there's this thing 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: called the First Amendment where you're allowed to do that. 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: And procedurally what they're accusing about our crimes substantively, the 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: defense in a fraud claim would be whether you believe 38 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: something or not. So he would have that argument because 39 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 3: I have no doubt he believed what Lynn Wood and 40 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: Sydney Power telling him about these soon to be released cracking. 41 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: It's a farce and a scam. It's it's total garbage. 42 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: All the all the allegations in all the indictments against 43 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 3: al Trump are garbage. It's all crap. There's not a 44 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: single bit, and I'm yeah, I get exhausted by some conservatives, 45 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 3: but well, we we need to we need to see 46 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: how the system plays out. There is no system, okay, 47 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: there's there's no justice system when it comes to political cases. 48 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: And we've seen that again and again. There are two 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: tracks of justice, which means there are no tracks of justice. 50 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: Everything that they've charged him with is completely illegitimate. It 51 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: is also substantively garbage. And I'm not a Trump supporter 52 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: of the primary roun. I'd like to see Ron Desantus 53 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 3: dominated because I think he can win in the general election. 54 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: But the simple fact is this is an outrageous and 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: disgusting attack on a political opponent, and it is going 56 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: to change our country for the worst. 57 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: And it might be a little bit more believable if 58 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: they hadn't have been throwing everything they can at him 59 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: since day one. 60 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: You know, it's just like it is so and. 61 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: Then now multiple indictments from multiple cities and multiple you 62 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: know that it's like an. 63 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: All Democrat soroscots. 64 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, like it'd be a little bit more believable if 65 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: they just try to hit him with one. It's just 66 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: this onslaught just really underscores and paints the picture of 67 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: just blatant political bias and weaponization of government. 68 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: That's true. And it's the thing is this is I mean, 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: this is earth shattering. This is an asteroid hitting the 70 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: earth ten years ago, utterly comprehensible. Now we're actually dealing 71 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: with it and the damage that these guys have done 72 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: for the short term advantage of trying to manipulate the 73 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: election by charging Trump, which is what they're trying to do, 74 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 3: and what they want to do is manipulate the Republicans 75 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,679 Speaker 3: and the nominating them and manipulate people in the general 76 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: to not vote for But they also want to send 77 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 3: a message to the rest of us that this isn't 78 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: your country. You don't have a say you're a serf. 79 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: We're going to disenfranchise you, and if you dare oppose us, 80 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: we're going to take everything you ever owned, including your freedom. 81 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: So you think the intention is to get Donald Trump nominated, 82 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: I think. 83 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 3: That's one of the intentions. They also want revenge. They 84 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: also want to send a message this does. This fulfills 85 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 3: a lot of roles and you know, and it further 86 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: cements the total destruction of our institutions. You know, our 87 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: institutions have stopped doing what institutions are supposed to do 88 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: and become purely instruments of maintaining power for a garbage elite. 89 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 3: It's really hard to overestimate the potential damage to our society. 90 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 3: I look back at Roman history. I remember Caesar cross 91 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: Garubicon because they were declaring lawfair on him. What's going 92 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: to happen here? People are going to fight back. They're 93 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: going to fight back using whatever power they have. 94 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: I think could be pretty And Smith's alleging that Trump's 95 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: claims about the twenty twenty election were false, that he 96 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: knew they were false, But how do you prove that? 97 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: I do believe, I mean, there's voter fraud in every election, 98 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: without a doubt. I do believe that Donald Trump legitimately 99 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: felt like there was voter fraud now where things maybe 100 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: played up to beget money, and you know, like by 101 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: certain people, Like sure, what do you make of that? Like, 102 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: how does he prove that Trump knew the claims were false? 103 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: Well, first step is you're allowed to say things people 104 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: don't think are true. You're allowed under the First Amendment 105 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 3: to go out and tell everybody that this election was garbage. Now, 106 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 3: other people may have evidence that it was not, but 107 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: that doesn't matter. Even if you know it's a giant 108 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: lie and you're attempting to manipulate people to get political advantage, 109 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: you're allowed to do that because it's the First Amendment. 110 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: You can do that. So even if he did all this, 111 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: that's protected First Amendment activity, How do you prove it? 112 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 3: I assume what he's gonna do is find various incidents 113 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: of people saying, well, I told Donald Trump it wasn't true, 114 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: you know, although he had other lawyers telling him it 115 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 3: was true. And what they're effectively trying to do is 116 00:06:53,720 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: establish a unofficial truths that is, you are you cannot 117 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: possibly hold an opinion, an opinion that is contrary to 118 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: what the elitist said. The elite said, this is a 119 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: perfectly fine election. It is a crime to think otherwise. 120 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: And look how that will apply to other things. What 121 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: happens when there becomes an official truth about climate change, 122 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: about gender? Why wouldn't there what? What? Why could I 123 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 3: not file a indictment under eighteen United States Code two 124 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: forty one via conspiracy to violate rights about people opposing 125 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: climate change right, Well, your right to be alive, because 126 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: this was your right to vote. Why couldn't I do that? 127 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: Because we all at LISA, ninety seven percent of scientists agree. 128 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: So now we're having now we're having courts define official truth. Well, gosh, 129 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: why do you think the official truth's going to be. 130 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: I'm thinking it's going to be exactly what our garbage 131 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 3: ruling class wants it to be. And that's what they want. 132 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: And that's really the direction that this is. I mean, 133 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: we saw this during COVID, right, you know. And the 134 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: sad thing is that you have willing participants with you know, 135 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: big tech or the media going along with us to 136 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: create an official truth. And when we lose the First Amendment, 137 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: when you lose a second amendment, we no longer have 138 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: a country and are really you know, that's what Jonathan 139 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: Turley said all about about this. He noted on Twitter 140 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: he said, if you take a red pen to all 141 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: the material presumptively protected by the First Amendment, you can 142 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: reduce much of the indictment to a haiku, making the 143 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: point that you're making that this is really an attack 144 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: on the First Amendment. You know, we've really seen this 145 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: for quite some time. 146 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: Now, the problem with criminal cases like I do mostly 147 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 3: civil litigation. Okay, if this was a civil suit, I 148 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 3: would do a twelve rule twelve B six motion to 149 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 3: dismiss and say, your honor, assuming everything in this complaint 150 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: is factually true. Because on emotion I dismiss, you have 151 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: to assume that they are still not intelled to relief 152 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: because what they're talking about violates no law. It is 153 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: not unlawful to express your thoughts and push an unofficial troop. 154 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 3: And I could have that heard, and I could attempt 155 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 3: to appeal it, maybe even during the case. So that's discretionary. 156 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: Criminal cases, it'll go to the judge. Judge will deny 157 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: a motion to dismiss, and you you've got no chance 158 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 3: to take it up. Your next stop is the trial, 159 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: and then after the trial you can appeal it, like 160 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 3: Bob O'Donnell did the Virginia governor after Jack Smith convicted him, 161 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: and it eventually it was appealed up to the Supreme 162 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: Court nine zero. They threw it out because Smith did 163 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: what he's doing here, which is taking a law and 164 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: bending and expanding and stretching it to cover condoct it 165 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: was never intended to cover and shouldn't have covered. So 166 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: there's a saying among criminals and cops, you might be 167 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: able to beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride, 168 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 3: and the ride here is going through the justice system. 169 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 3: Force going to spend money and time and focus and 170 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: effort and emotion on defending these bogus criminal charges in 171 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: which they're trying to frame him, and you know, whether 172 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 3: he gets convicted or not, he's still the damage is 173 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: still done. 174 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break more with Kurt on 175 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: the other side. There's not charges at least yet that 176 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: include you know, incitement and violence on January six? Do 177 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: you think there are more charges in this arena that 178 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: are to come? Are they trying to get people to 179 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: flip right now? 180 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: And I'm sure because there are gonna be other revelations 181 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: about the Bidens and their garbage corruption, the corruption which 182 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: is actually real. So look for a superseding indictment after 183 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: you know, there's a videotape of the big guy saying 184 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: where's my ten percent? And the next day we'll see 185 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 3: a superseding indictment where all Trump is guilty of sedition 186 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: whatever the hell that means. 187 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: Well, that soun's pretty wild because if you do look 188 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: at the the Hunter Biden stuff and the Biden stuff. 189 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: It's like this guy Greg Price posted this timeline on Twitter. 190 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: It's like June. 191 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: Seventh, FBI releases documents to Congress alleging the Bidens took 192 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: a ten million dollars bribe from Bresma. Next day, June eighth, 193 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: Jacksmith and tights Trump marl Lago case. And then you 194 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: go to July twenty six Hunter Biden goes to court, 195 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: rejects the sweetheart deal. July twenty seventh, jack Smith adds 196 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: more charges for Trump and the Marral logo case. And 197 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: then you know, you continue July thirty first, Hunter Biden's 198 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: former business partner, you know, testifies before Congress about Joe Biden. 199 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: Than August first, Jacksmith, you know, indicts him on January sixth. 200 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: So they're not even really trying to hide this timeline either. 201 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: That like the like, they're not even trying to hide 202 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: anything anymore, Ert Lisa. 203 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: They want us to know it. This is a message 204 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 3: we can do anything we want because we hold these institutions. 205 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: They want us to know this is this isn't it 206 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: is not ashamed of it. They want us to know 207 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: about now. I think it's very, very shortsighted because right 208 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 3: now our culture is kind of running on fumes. Back 209 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: when we had a real republic, normal folks like us, 210 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 3: we're beyond the hypocrisy thing. You know, it would be 211 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 3: totally unbased. If you and I were like, well, imagine 212 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: if it's with Donald Trump Junior. Okay, that's we're past that. 213 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: We've accepted the hypocrisy. Normal people who don't do this 214 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: twenty four seven. He demonstrates their power. But the normal 215 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: people haven't woke up. They they still give some credit. There. 216 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: There are people out there going, well, my gosh, it 217 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 3: is troubling that he's been charged. I mean if he's 218 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: charge I mean, they couldn't charge them for nothing. They 219 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: couldn't invent charges and try and frame the president. Why 220 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: that would never happen. But you and I are like, yeah, 221 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: that's totally happening. And more and more people are seeing it, 222 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: and more and more people are going to get based, 223 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 3: and more and more the anger is going to build 224 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: up because this is unsustainable. Can you imagine one hundred 225 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: years of this, one hundred years of normal Americans living 226 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 3: under the birkenstocks pressed against their face by these petty fascists. Yes, 227 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: your children will be mutilated and conform to bizarre delusions. 228 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: Yes you will disarm, Yes you will have no stay 229 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: in your government. Yes, your sons and daughters will go 230 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 3: fight in Ukraine. History is full of revolts, rebellions, and backlash. 231 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: And it's going to take a while because where most 232 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 3: Americans are used to thinking America is a free country 233 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: with generally squared away institutions. That's monstrably not so right now. 234 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 3: But people will get aware of it and they will act. 235 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: But do you really think that the rest of America 236 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: will wake up? Because, I mean, a lot of the 237 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: media is not covering the Biden stuff. I mean, the 238 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: good thing about the judge rejecting the plea deal for 239 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden was that the forced mainstream media to cover it. 240 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: So how will they wake up? 241 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: Though? 242 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: If they're not hearing about it. 243 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 3: Over time, they will experience things. We had a massive 244 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: wake up during COVID when you know, you know, wear 245 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: your mask everywhere, take this vaccine that's going to protect 246 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: you from the virus, except it doesn't, And then their 247 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: kids are staying home from. 248 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 4: School and suddenly they're seeing, you know, the pride flag lessons, 249 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 4: and you know, experience wakes people up, pain wakes people up. 250 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: It's not going to happen fast, but it's happening. More 251 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 3: and more people are feeling it. More and more people 252 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: are getting angry. And then it becomes a question of 253 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: how the backlash manifests. Is it a backlash at the 254 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: ballot box? Is an American franco? You know, I don't 255 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: know what the answer is. I do know the answer 256 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: is normal Americans aren't going to go well. You know, 257 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: living in a democrat or republic with democratic principles was fun. 258 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: But I guess I'm a serf. I just don't see 259 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: it happening. 260 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: It sounds hyperbolic, but I don't. 261 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: Know what would happen after this election though, like, because 262 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: we already saw such intervention in the previous presidential elections 263 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: from the Department of Justice and the FBI, which really 264 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: begs the question have they always been meddling in elections? 265 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: And we're just now kind of finding out and waking 266 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: up to it. And then but beyond that, you know, look, 267 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: we saw Joe Biden take the stage in Pennsylvania before 268 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: the midterms and essentially label seventy five million Americans as 269 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: enemies of the state with the military behind them, you know, 270 00:15:54,680 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: and like a red backdrop looking like likeitarian that he is. 271 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, like really paints a picture. But like, isn't that 272 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: what's happening? 273 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: And isn't that what's gonna happen if we lose this election, 274 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: do we lose the opportunity to take back or power 275 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: in you know, the most peaceful and in the best 276 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: way after this election. 277 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: No, there is still the possibility of electoral victory. It's 278 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: just got to be massive. I was speaking, I'm here 279 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: in Dallas. I was speaking as a bunch of Republicans yesterday. 280 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: Very interesting, by the way, I was very open about 281 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: my position on Brian desantus. Uh, and of two hundred people, 282 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: not a single one stood up and said you need 283 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: to you need to support Trump. We need to be 284 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: looking not Donald Trump's name was never mentioned to me. 285 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: I thought it was very interesting, very different from us 286 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: the social media world, but a case we had that 287 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: same question, you know, what what do we do? And uh, 288 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: you know we we we we have to win beyond 289 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: the margin of fraud. Uh. It is you know, hard 290 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: to uh think an election when it isn't close and 291 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 3: We're just going to have to do the hard work 292 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: of convincing people. Uh, there is the possibility that these 293 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: people are ruling class who are dumb. These are let's 294 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: understand our enemies, Lisa, these are unaccomplished people. These are 295 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 3: cultural trust fund babies. They inherited America's institutions. They certainly 296 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 3: didn't build them. They're like the third generation. You know, 297 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: you look at them. 298 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: But they've successfully taken them over. 299 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: To give them credit, well, they've inherited and filled them 300 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: with people like them with their fate credentials. You look 301 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 3: at somebody like Henry Ford, a guy with a lot 302 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 3: of a lot of issues, but he you know, he 303 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: invented the eight hour day, he invented the assembly line. 304 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 3: Then the second generation Affords and built the Mustang, made 305 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 3: this giant corporation. Who's the third generation of Fords? What 306 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: have they done? Got busted for drugs? I mean these 307 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: and that's the equivalent of our ruling class. We have 308 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 3: one class that beat the Nazis and beat the depression, 309 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 3: another to put a man on the moon. This ruling 310 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: class is given as grinder and pronouns. Okay, these are 311 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: not accomplished smart people. They didn't build this stuff. They 312 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: are unaware of history. They are deliberately ignorant because our 313 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 3: educational system is not about transferring knowledge, but rather transferring 314 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: cultural and social cachet and credentials, and these are not 315 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: you know, as far as oppression goes, Yeah, they can 316 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 3: manifest pretty well persecuting a few thousand people for thought crimes. 317 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 3: But what do they do when an entire state like 318 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: Texas says we're done playing, We're not doing any of that. 319 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 3: What do they do turn to the military. Well, the 320 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: generals would be all for it, because the generals are garbage. 321 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: But I'm not sure that the troops would be real 322 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 3: happy about going and hurting their friends and family. 323 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: So I'm a little disheartened about the twenty twenty four 324 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: election because just alone why I love DeSantis, and you know, 325 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: I know him, and I know that he would be 326 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: a very effective president. And I say effective like, look, 327 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: Trump did a great job. I'm not going to discount that, 328 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: but I say effective in the sense of DeSantis is 329 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: more disciplined and I believe would get the job done 330 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: in a more meaningful and long lasting way than like 331 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: the executive orders and those things that have already been 332 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: overturned with Joe Biden being in office. But that being said, 333 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if he has the juice as a 334 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: candidate to win the nomination, And then if he can't 335 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: win the nomination, how do you win a general election 336 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: if you can't convince your own people to vote for you. 337 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: And then I do think that Trump's a better candidate, 338 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: but I worry in a general election he turns more 339 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: people out against him than for him. And so we're 340 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: we're sort of in this predicament where, you know, if 341 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: you had someone like Trump as a candidate with DeSantis's effectiveness, 342 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: we'd crush it. 343 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: But that's not that's not where we are, and so 344 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 345 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: I worry about our ability to win in a general election, 346 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: despite the fact that Joe Biden is essentially a weekend 347 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: at Bernie's president. But you know, but then we also 348 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: know that they have everything behind them and the systems 349 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: behind them. 350 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 351 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm worried about what happens this cycle for us, and 352 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: I worry about what happens if we don't win. 353 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: I agree with I agree with almost everything you said. 354 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: I think Donald Trump is very weak in the general 355 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 3: election because for irrational reasons, there are about fifty three 356 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 3: percent of Americans who will just never vote for him. Okay, 357 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, he's a good president. Yeah, he kept 358 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 3: us out of war. Yeah, the economy was great. But 359 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: you know, he called Rosie O'Donnell horse face on Twitter, 360 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: and I just can't deal with that. 361 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: That was Mika Brazion's games. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 362 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: The Rosie o'donald thing was when that was actually like 363 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: probably one of the best responses ever begging Kelly, who 364 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: I actually really love and respect, but she was asking 365 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: about his comments on women, and then Trump was like 366 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: only Rosie O'Donnell but which was actually pretty epic. You 367 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: and I think Mika Brazinski's the horse face just we 368 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: have to accept. 369 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: The fact that a majority of Americans just hate this 370 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:32,239 Speaker 3: guy and they're never going to vote for him. I think, uh, 371 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 3: I think Ron DeSantis would have a chance. I think 372 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 3: Ron Sants is proven, Uh is proven effective. Look, he 373 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 3: turned a purple state into a red state. That's that's important. Uh. 374 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean he's got to win this election. 375 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 3: We're five months out, He's he's got about a fifty 376 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 3: electorate wrapped up. The no nothing's had. You know, the 377 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: he also rans the Tim Scott's and Nicky Haleys and 378 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 3: a Suns instance have about another twenty twenty five percent 379 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 3: among them, Trump between forty five and fifty five percent. 380 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 3: But that's today. Remember there's a lot of people who 381 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: are not paying attention to this five months out in 382 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 3: the middle of August, you know, they're outfishit or you know, 383 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: taking their kids to soccer or doing other things, and 384 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 3: they say, who do you support? Like, I guess I 385 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: support Trump. The people who are active tend to support Destansus, 386 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: And I think as time goes by, people will suddenly 387 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: have to think about it and start making some tactical 388 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 3: decisions like you were talking about can this guy win? 389 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: I like Trump, but I like Trump. I wrote a 390 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: book defending Trump. It's nothing personal, you know. I to me, 391 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 3: candidates are fungible. Okay. One is to say, you know, 392 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 3: I I'm not loyal to any of them. I demand 393 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: they be loyal to me. If Trump can't get it done, 394 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 3: then I want the guy I think can, and I 395 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 3: think the guy who can is DeSantis. He's got to 396 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 3: stay alive right now. He needs to build his infrastructure, 397 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 3: needs to keep getting money. I think he's doing a 398 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: good job getting himself out there. I think this Newsome 399 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 3: debate is going to be interesting. But he's got to 400 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 3: win in Iowa and New Hampshire. He's got to go 401 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 3: in Iowa and New Hampshire and win that. At that point, 402 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: I think people take a close look at him. That's 403 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: really his only strategy. Trump is a weak candidate because 404 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 3: he's only at about half of the party. You know, 405 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 3: only half the party supports it. And while that's a 406 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: lot more than the other nine guys, that's not good, 407 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: that's actively bad. I will that being said, I'm going 408 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 3: to vote for the nominee of the Republican Party. If 409 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: it is Donald Trump, I will support him wholeheartedly and genuinely. 410 00:23:54,880 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: If it's as the Hutchinson, I'll be very surprised. I think, 411 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: really it's a two man race. 412 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: I might set that one out. 413 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 3: If it's a you know, like I keep saying, let's 414 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: just buy it's just running zeb. 415 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: I might pass on the I might pass on the 416 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: guy that you know is okay with the mutilation of uh. 417 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: I might pass on that, you know, And I wonder too, 418 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, obviously, as conservatives, we know what they're doing right, 419 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: and they know that we know what they're doing right. 420 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: But but I I you know, if you look at 421 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: some polling. I think there was like an ABC poll 422 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,239 Speaker 1: I saw on Twitter before we were talking, and then 423 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: after the New York I mean, the rest of America 424 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: they're for these indictments. 425 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: So they're not. 426 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope they wake up because you know, 427 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: regardless if it's Donald Trump or who it is, the 428 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: weaponization of government ends up. We're all going to bear 429 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: the consequences of it, right, And so yeah, well. 430 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 3: They're defaulting to old America, where if the Justice Department 431 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: indicted something, that's pretty good chance he did something. We're wrong, 432 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: you know. But that's not what America is now. You know, 433 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 3: our ruling class is gliding on fumes, is feating off 434 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: the corpse of a country that has died. But we 435 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 3: can bring the country back. We just need to win 436 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 3: the election. And I you know, Trump is not going 437 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: to have the money he is going to He's got 438 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: to thread the needle in every single swing stage. He 439 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: did in twenty sixteen. He defied all the odds, you know, 440 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 3: but but but you know, hey, he had a miracle 441 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 3: once he'll have one. Again, it's not a great argument. 442 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: But then to that point, you know, he also has 443 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: such name ida that does he even have to put 444 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: in the work that some of these other you know 445 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like he's almost pulling to some degree 446 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: as an incumbent. So it's like, I don't know, I 447 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: go back and forth in my head and a lot 448 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: of these arguments of Victor Davis. Hansen had a good 449 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: piece recently about just like no one the hell knows, 450 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like there's so many variables, 451 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, Like it's like there's so many How does 452 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: one human face multiple indictments in criminal indictments in multiple 453 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: cities as a human? 454 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: I mean, what toll does that take on a person? 455 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: Well, frankly, I think there's nobody who's better suited to 456 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 3: putting putting up with it a guy like Donald Trump. However, 457 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: it is going to take a toll. It's going to 458 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 3: take a toll on his time, his emotion, his focus, 459 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: which is part of the plan real people. Look, a 460 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: lot of conservatives rallied to them, and I fully understand 461 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 3: that Trump is a giant middle finger to bad people. 462 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: The problem is as much fun it is to flip 463 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: people off. I prefer the joy of victory, and I 464 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: don't believe in a gracious defeat or glorious defeat. I 465 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: just want to win, and I think there are other 466 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: people who disagree. Remember, you know, folks like you and 467 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 3: I have been involved in politics for a long time. 468 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: Trump run in a lot of people who haven't been. 469 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 3: They brought in a lot of people who came into 470 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 3: politics simply because of Trump. So Trump is their north star, 471 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: He's their load star. He is the point of the politics, 472 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 3: the point forgot people like you and me, it's gwinn 473 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: And you know, if it's not this politician, it's the 474 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 3: next one. That's not what they're thinking. They're therefore Trump, 475 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: and some of them have a quasi religious belief in him. 476 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: I mean, gosh, if you look at some of the 477 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 3: embarrassing memes of you know, super macho jacked Trump without 478 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 3: a shirt and a machine gun and he's riding a dragon, 479 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 3: and it's not ironic. There are there are people who, 480 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: you know, adore this guy, and I don't think we 481 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 3: can count on them as part of the Republican coalition 482 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 3: unless Trump's at the top of the ticket. What we've 483 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 3: got to focus on are a lot of suburban people 484 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: who are frankly soft, who are very concerned about you know, 485 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: Trump's very concerned about mean tweets, and I think there 486 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 3: are more of those, and I think they can be 487 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 3: one back. I don't think, you know, we lost the suburbs, 488 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: We lost those kind of soft Republicans, and I think 489 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 3: they are there for the taking because Biden's been so 490 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: terrible about everything. But we're not going to take a 491 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 3: back if we put up the guy who they hate. 492 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: Quick break more on this Trump insanity. Do you think 493 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: there's ever going to be accountability for the Bidens? 494 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, no, I don't. 495 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: I don't think there is. I I think I look, 496 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 3: I'm I'm more concerned and that annoysment, but I'm more 497 00:28:54,560 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 3: concerned with systemic accountability holding the institutions. I don't think 498 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: we know to Biden is certainly going to be impeached, 499 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: and he should be. He will escape, but we'll be 500 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: able to show his corruption. And the reason to do 501 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 3: that is not to prosecute this eighty year old senile moron. 502 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: It is to demonstrate the corruption of our institutions. And 503 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 3: it's the institutions I care about. I want them torn down, gutted, 504 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 3: and rebuilt in an image befitting America, starting with the military, 505 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 3: which needs to be a first institution that suffers radical 506 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: a radical rebuild. And frankly it should be because as 507 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: a hierarchical organization, it's relatively easy to reorient it quickly, 508 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 3: establish a massive victory early on, and use as a 509 00:29:53,240 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 3: template for other agencies like the DOJ, etc. So, as 510 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: much as I'd like personal accountability for Biden and his 511 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: meth head son, I'm really interested in institutional accountability. I 512 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 3: want to break these institutions and reorient them in a 513 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: way where they support America rather than the interests of 514 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 3: our garbage ruling class. 515 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: Is it possible to change the system, though, I mean 516 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: it seems today though that the system, the deep state, 517 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: the bureaucratic state, whatever you want to call it, has 518 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: more power than the president. And then also, I mean 519 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: you can go back and you know Ron Paul, who 520 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: I've had on a couple of times, you know, has 521 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 1: been right about like basically everything. I feel bad for 522 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: every thinking he was kind of off the reservation. I mean, 523 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: the guy's been he's like nailed it. He was just 524 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: early warning us about everything. But you know he was 525 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, back in the nineteen eighties that 526 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: the FBI's sole purpose was to spy on Americans. So 527 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: it's like we're talking about reforming institutions that when the 528 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: has been probably stacked against us for you know, forever. 529 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: What you need to do is what the SANTIS has 530 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: done in Florida, which is unashamedly use your executive power. 531 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: We assume we win in twenty twenty four. Step one, 532 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 3: you fire Chris Ray. Step two, you tell the you 533 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 3: tell the FBI. I am ordering you, as the president 534 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 3: to not expend any time, resources, money, or effort on 535 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: investigating anyone within my administration without my express permission. If 536 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 3: you do, you're misusing government funds. We will prosecute you again. 537 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 3: New attorney general in there, The Attorney General says, hey, 538 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 3: after after the pardons of all the J six people 539 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 3: and all the other Republicans, including Trump who've been caught 540 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: up in this garbage, all prosecutions that might be politically 541 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 3: oriented must have my signature. They do not go through. 542 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: There's no independence here. I am running the DJ I 543 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 3: am running the Pentagon, I am running the FBI. I 544 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 3: was elected president. It all comes through me. I'm not 545 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 3: going to let you do these things. If you misuse 546 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: government money by doing something I've ordered you not to, 547 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to arrest you and I'm going to put 548 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: you in jail. And you simply refuse to let them act. 549 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: And that's that is a real problem for them because 550 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, at his core, respected institutions. He respected academia. 551 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: You know how he always talks about, oh, he's very impressive. 552 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 3: What to Harvard blah blahlah blah. If you're based, you 553 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 3: know that going to Harvard is not a cell. Okay, 554 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 3: it's not a good point. That is a bad thing. 555 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 3: But he respected institution. He still calls Maggie habermann, Hey, Maggie, 556 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 3: how's it going, Let's chaft, because he cares what the 557 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 3: New York Times things. You've got to hate these institutions 558 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: and what these institutions have become. You've got to use 559 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 3: your power to nuture them and make it so they 560 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 3: cannot do the things that they want to do. And 561 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: you have to be ruthless and unashamed about you know. 562 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you can imagine the New York Times running 563 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 3: an article Trump refuses to allow his you know, investigations 564 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 3: of his own administration, and you have to say yes 565 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 3: because their proven track record of perjury, fraud, and framing people. 566 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 3: They have lost the respect of the American people who 567 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 3: elected me, and I am not going to allow them 568 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 3: to do this to anyone else in my administration. I 569 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 3: am the chief executive. I will person I must personally 570 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 3: sign off on any investigation of any member of the 571 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 3: executive branch, period and I don't care if you don't 572 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 3: like it. And that kind of screws them. 573 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: No, I agree with that. 574 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: I think the media stuff might just be because they 575 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: used to love him, so he's like, hey, you know 576 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like it's like, I don't know, like 577 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: a scorned like lover type thing. You know. 578 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: We're like, what happened? Like, I don't know. Is there 579 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: anything else you want to leave us with before we go? 580 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 3: I'm hopeful. I have a remarkable amount of faith in 581 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 3: the American people decided, despite some of their recent decision making, 582 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 3: I think we're going to have the Republican Party take 583 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 3: this election very seriously. I think I think they're going 584 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 3: to look very carefully at who is going to be 585 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: able to win in the general election, and I suspect 586 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 3: they will pick a candidate to do that, and doing 587 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: that does not mean you hate Donald Trump. I don't 588 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: hate Donald Trump. I'm grateful for Dald Trump. I think 589 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 3: he was a largely good but imperfect precedent. But I 590 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 3: don't care about Donald Trump in the sense that his 591 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 3: feelings are a matter of utter indifference to me. I 592 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 3: understand that the election in twenty twenty was rigged between 593 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 3: fraud and changed rules and institutional thumbs on the scale. 594 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 3: I don't care that he feels bad about it and 595 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 3: thinks he was wrong. That it's true, but it's irrelevant, 596 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 3: and I think I think the Republican Party is going 597 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 3: to nominate someone with a good shot at winning the election. Unfortunately, 598 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna have to go up against Cavin 599 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 3: Newsom because don't think the Democrats are going to run 600 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 3: that dust puppet who's currently occupying the Oval office. But 601 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 3: I do think that we have a good chance of winning, 602 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: and I think if we nominate the right person, we 603 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 3: will be able to do some massive changes to these institutions. 604 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 3: So I'm optimist. 605 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: I've heard people throw Michelle Obama's name around, so I 606 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: certainly hope that doesn't happen. 607 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 3: Now she's lazy. Did you read the interview by Obama's 608 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 3: biographer just came out. It's devastating. This guy. He's essentially lazy. 609 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 3: He's essentially a guy who wants to enjoy his privilege, 610 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: and his wife is the same way. I don't think 611 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 3: he wants I don't think she wants to be precedent. 612 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 3: I think she wants to be on yachts with her friends. 613 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: And I'm glad about that because there are lots of 614 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 3: stupid people who would vote for Michelle Obama because they've 615 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 3: seen her on TV, and I think it's more likely 616 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 3: that we'll see newsome. I'm totally counting out Kamela because 617 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 3: she's just terrible, and even the Democrat, she is a dumb, 618 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 3: dumb lady. She is just unaccomplished. I mean, well, she 619 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 3: dated Montel Williams, which I can't even deal with that. Look, 620 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: I'm always going to be optimistic for America. I know 621 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 3: that's kind of Sonny and ragany, but the alternative is 622 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 3: to be totally black pilled, depressed and suicidal, and I 623 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 3: refuse to do that. If I'm going out, I'm going 624 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 3: out on a pile of brass. It's I will never 625 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 3: give up the fight. I will never become a serf. 626 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 3: If we don't in today, then we got to win tomorrow. 627 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 3: And I want to win it twenty twenty four. 628 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: But I do too my movie have to Kurt. Thanks 629 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: so much for taking the time for joining the show. 630 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Nice to catch up with you and 631 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: have you on. 632 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. 633 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: Those Kurt Slicker, I appreciate him taking the time for 634 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: joining the show. Appreciate you guys for listening as always. 635 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: Want to thank John Cass, you and my producer for 636 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: putting the show together every Monday Thursday, but you can 637 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: listen to it throughout the week. Feel free to leave 638 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: us review on Apple Podcast. Love reading those Until next time.