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Speaker 1: your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I can finally say live from
Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage studio, Nate Newton and I are
Speaker 1: in studio today. Kurt Daniels, live from home, Jesse Holly,
Speaker 1: live from home. Chris Beam live next door in the
Speaker 1: producer's chair. We are hanging with the boys. Thank you
Speaker 1: wing Stop, Thank you ess WBC Mortgage. Fellas, we look
Speaker 1: very festive, some more festive than others. Jesse, once again
Speaker 1: you out did us. Congratulations you look great. Back in
Speaker 1: the day man, just oh. I try to try to
Speaker 1: keep on the trailer park Baby, what come through, Jess,
Speaker 1: come through the trailer park baby, letting them cookies out there,
Speaker 1: a little thick girl like the hookies, babies, cookies of
Speaker 1: the little cookies on the doorstep. Tonight is a big,
Speaker 1: big night for you. Tell us what's going on tonight
Speaker 1: and what's happening for people that would like to participate
Speaker 1: and donate to your wonderful cause. Yeah, there's still time
Speaker 1: to donate. If you have not or you forgot, or
Speaker 1: you were waiting for that other check to come in
Speaker 1: the mail, there's still time to donate. But tonight we
Speaker 1: are going shopping thirty six kids. We have thirty six
Speaker 1: kids that we're working with this year. It's going to
Speaker 1: be phenomenal. Man. We have kids from age is two
Speaker 1: years old all the way up to fifteen, thirty six
Speaker 1: of them. A lot of these all of these kids
Speaker 1: on at all these kids are in foster care. They're
Speaker 1: waiting for placement, so that can take up to a
Speaker 1: couple months to a couple of years. And so you know,
Speaker 1: around these times, man, you think about these kids who
Speaker 1: who are in these situations where they you know, the
Speaker 1: families that they've taken them in may not have the
Speaker 1: necessary resources to fully give them what they need. And
Speaker 1: so Holly's Hands is trying to come in and give
Speaker 1: a mighty hand and it just doesn't it just has
Speaker 1: my name on it, but it has so many other
Speaker 1: components to it. You guys are coming out to shop tonight.
Speaker 1: Other volunteers are coming out to help shop tonight. Many
Speaker 1: of you, many many, many of you have donated, and
Speaker 1: I thank you so much, uh that we we we
Speaker 1: are able to um to do something for thirty six children.
Speaker 1: And there's still time, there's still time. You can long
Speaker 1: my Twitter page. So we go to your Twitter page, yes,
Speaker 1: sir fourth and Long. Yeah, you go to my Twitter
Speaker 1: page at mister fourth A. Long. The link is in
Speaker 1: no bio. Or you can hit me up at h
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Speaker 1: can hit me up that way. I can see the
Speaker 1: link to donate. UM. It's a great cause, man, and
Speaker 1: and we're gonna we're gonna try to do our very
Speaker 1: best to help thirty six kids have a Christmas of
Speaker 1: a lifetime. Jesse, you know I want to help, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to your Twitter page, but you tweet so
Speaker 1: damn much. I can't get through your feed to find
Speaker 1: the tweet that you the link. If you just if
Speaker 1: you just go the it's a pen tweet. It's already
Speaker 1: pinned up there. That's already up there it's also the
Speaker 1: links in my bio to donate as well, so you
Speaker 1: don't have to go surfing through. It's right, it's pinned
Speaker 1: up there right there, boom, and then it's right, it's
Speaker 1: the links in the bio as well. Okay, that's okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So I'm not good at this, man. But anyway, you
Speaker 1: keep talking, Jesse, should We'll show you after the show
Speaker 1: again again again we said, we said this yesterday. Nathaniel
Speaker 1: is trying to talk anything. Tryechnology, okay, Twitter, Twitter? Okay,
Speaker 1: So now how do I follow mister fourth loan? I
Speaker 1: just put a snapshot of your forehead or your dreads up.
Speaker 1: You can do all that. But well, man, Jesse, that's
Speaker 1: a great thing you do on Jesse. So I can
Speaker 1: find this and show them that I can do things
Speaker 1: on online or whatever. Let me let me do this.
Speaker 1: So while I'm doing this, Kurt Jesse, by the way,
Speaker 1: great thing that you do, man, So awesome that you're
Speaker 1: getting thirty six kids to take them shopping tonight. But
Speaker 1: I'll be there. I'm I'm bringing the wife and the kids.
Speaker 1: Even though he's not gonna know what's going on. You know,
Speaker 1: I think what you're doing is amazing. I want to
Speaker 1: teach him from day one that this is the way
Speaker 1: that you treat humans. Hats off to you, man. I
Speaker 1: can't say enough thank you for doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1: This is this is awesome. Okay, Yeah, so he's gonna
Speaker 1: follow me. So when I get home, pick up my wife.
Speaker 1: I'm i'm, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: a credit card. I'm and I'm gonna use this thing. Man, I'm, I'm,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use this thing. I'm, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: donate my I'm gonna donate my ten dollars that I'm
Speaker 1: making on this show today. I'm giving it up over
Speaker 1: over over, under Fellers over under over under. Nate hands
Speaker 1: me the money when he sees me tonight. I actually
Speaker 1: online when I get them, I was gonna say, yeah,
Speaker 1: he ain't doing it, Michella doing He ain't doing not.
Speaker 1: You follow me on Jess yet you follow Jess. I'm
Speaker 1: following Jess. Mister mister, so you got a picture to
Speaker 1: dude running you down, catching you? Is that that how
Speaker 1: I know I'm following you? No, that's my pretty faces
Speaker 1: on that. Okay, let's talk some football fellas Kurt kick
Speaker 1: it off, Darren Woodson had some harsh words. Where did
Speaker 1: you find that? When did he say it? And what
Speaker 1: did he say? Okay, so let's PayPal, Nate, wait till
Speaker 1: after the show man. I'm just acting. I'm sorry. See
Speaker 1: this is what happened when you when you're a dinosaur.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead on. Kurt criticized Darren Woodson for
Speaker 1: what he said the truth. I don't know. Maybe Shannon
Speaker 1: needs to go around on the table there and get
Speaker 1: Nate set up. Now, I get a set up when
Speaker 1: I get to the crib, all right now. Darren Woodson
Speaker 1: had some pretty interesting words to say the Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 1: He said one of the things was talking about the
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense. They're helping up runners, giving love taps
Speaker 1: on helmets after the game. Sure, it's a brotherhood, but
Speaker 1: between the lines, where's the animosity? We just don't see
Speaker 1: any anger in this defense is veins. We see tackling
Speaker 1: like they're playing flag football. That's why all season they've
Speaker 1: been gashed. What do you think about that? From the
Speaker 1: ring of honor, Darren Woodson, I mean, if he told
Speaker 1: the line, let's if let's any word that we want
Speaker 1: to use. Oh Man, So again this is another you know,
Speaker 1: one of the former Cowboys great speaking out is this
Speaker 1: is this uh resonating at all or guys paying attention?
Speaker 1: I think we said before they really don't care that much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I did a show us Bucky Brooks this morning,
Speaker 1: Kurt and Fellas and and I said, man, okay, where
Speaker 1: are we adding a draft? And Lucky Brooks looking at
Speaker 1: me and say, Nate, I've been hearing you. You've been
Speaker 1: screaming you know about this defense, he said, but sorry
Speaker 1: to tell you you will be disappointed because this draft
Speaker 1: does not fit the cowboy knees. He said. The first
Speaker 1: valuable player that he liked was down at probably fifteen
Speaker 1: to sixteen and it was a cornerback and he's just okay.
Speaker 1: So he said, if you're looking for anything to change
Speaker 1: the draft, ain't gonna be it. So you know, of
Speaker 1: course I got kind of quiet on the show, and
Speaker 1: ntil man, I had to talk out of that, but
Speaker 1: I was like wow, So I thought I would present
Speaker 1: that you guys. So now I gotta go to the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. I gotta find a way to get to
Speaker 1: the to the counts got scouting come by and find
Speaker 1: some players to help the have y'all succeeded in sucking
Speaker 1: my hope and the life out of me for this season.
Speaker 1: Native starting to show sucking the hope and the life
Speaker 1: out of April already. When the draft rolls around two weeks,
Speaker 1: I want to draft. You can look for this team
Speaker 1: to start talking about what I said, Jesse. We'll get
Speaker 1: to Nate in a second, because I may have a solution,
Speaker 1: may have no, go ahead. Now, I'm going to change
Speaker 1: the subject a little bit. You go ahead, I would
Speaker 1: saying I may have a solution to your No. This
Speaker 1: is I'm going to give you some hope, shann I'm
Speaker 1: what they took away. I'm going to try to inject
Speaker 1: and infuse back into you. Okay. And I may be
Speaker 1: it may be a little bit hypocritical because of what
Speaker 1: I said the other day about how the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: to maybe go aufter someone who's a little bit younger
Speaker 1: to come in here to be a defensive coordinator. But
Speaker 1: I was doing some thinking on the porcelain throne last night. No,
Speaker 1: it's great thinking. This is some great thinkings happens there, Kurt.
Speaker 1: And to your point, Nate, what Bucky Brookly was saying, like,
Speaker 1: there isn't really any dominant players what we call dogs. Yes,
Speaker 1: and now you say that, and to what I was
Speaker 1: thinking last night was wouldn't it be great to have
Speaker 1: a coach who came in here who has a history. Now,
Speaker 1: some of his dogs may have been a little bit
Speaker 1: off the leash, but they were dogs. Nonetheless, he has
Speaker 1: an eye for dogs. Marvin Lewis as your Cowboys defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: remember this is the guy who was a part of
Speaker 1: constructing that early you know that two thousand, was part
Speaker 1: of that two thousand Baltimore Ravens, you know, early two
Speaker 1: thousands and mid two thousand Baltimore Ravens defense. And he
Speaker 1: always had a pretty good defense when he was in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: When they got to the playoffs, it was never really
Speaker 1: the defense. It was always the offense couldn't find their
Speaker 1: find their ways. So a guy like Marvin Lewis, who
Speaker 1: talking about changing the culture, had just spent a couple
Speaker 1: years down at the college level with HERM Edwards that
Speaker 1: I was on the state kind of getting adjusted and
Speaker 1: learning how to be around these new age players. Right,
Speaker 1: you spend time in college, it's not like the NFL.
Speaker 1: You say, it's been a lot of time around these
Speaker 1: college athletes, and Marvin has always been really good on
Speaker 1: and off the field relating to its players. And he
Speaker 1: spent about the last year and a half two years
Speaker 1: at hours on the state in the college ranks. So
Speaker 1: having a guy like that as your defensive coordinator who
Speaker 1: has a history of finding dogs, I mean again, some
Speaker 1: of them may be a little bit off the leash
Speaker 1: in a little bit, you know, you might have to
Speaker 1: they might have to go to be laid down afterwards
Speaker 1: because they're just too crazy. But Marvin Lewis has been
Speaker 1: one who's been able to find some dogs and maybe
Speaker 1: the dog whisperer that you may need to bring in
Speaker 1: to help this defense. Dog whispered jesse get. I guess
Speaker 1: going back to when you play. Sorry, we got a
Speaker 1: little bit of a delay here with us being in
Speaker 1: the studio, so I don't mean to talk over you,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to anyway back when you played, which
Speaker 1: wasn't too terribly long ago. Have you seen in between
Speaker 1: the lines? Have you seen attitudes? I think I know
Speaker 1: the answer for Nate, so we'll save him for last.
Speaker 1: But have you seen the way players treat each other
Speaker 1: and the buddy buddy and the chummy chummy. Was it
Speaker 1: like that when you played or has that changed since
Speaker 1: the time you got out of the league too now?
Speaker 1: Can you just see it a lot not just to
Speaker 1: cowboys yet again, that's the new age that that's the
Speaker 1: new age. Guys are social media friends and buddies. And
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is is that how guys
Speaker 1: trained nowadays. Um with everyone you know trying, there's there's
Speaker 1: isolated training facilities so that you see guys in Florida
Speaker 1: and California they're doing their throwing or they're they're they're
Speaker 1: you know, even right here in Frisco when all the
Speaker 1: offensive linemen come to the to the to the Star
Speaker 1: and they're doing their offensive lineman camp. And so there's
Speaker 1: there's much more buddy buddy gathering in it in today's
Speaker 1: football than it's ever been. But even when I started
Speaker 1: playing in two thousand and seven, when I ended playing
Speaker 1: in two thousand and twelve, it wasn't that whole buddy
Speaker 1: buddy type thing. It was like, I'm literally trying to
Speaker 1: rip your spleen out for four quarters and then when
Speaker 1: we're done, Hey, what's up brother? How you doing? But
Speaker 1: once the game starts. It wasn't all this. In between
Speaker 1: the lines. We laugh and we joke in high Nah.
Speaker 1: It was some trash talking, but it was a lot
Speaker 1: of I'm trying to humiliate you in front of a
Speaker 1: stadium full of people. Every single down. I love me
Speaker 1: some Wilba marsh and I told you, go ahead on,
Speaker 1: gun on, Sorry, Kurt, go ahead on, go ahead on. No.
Speaker 1: I was asking you, it's probably even worse than your day,
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you a little story I told
Speaker 1: last night with Larry Brown on Crossing Cross Talk with
Speaker 1: the flagship station. Wilba Marsha played with my brother at
Speaker 1: the University of Florida, great player, out standing player, played
Speaker 1: with with that but that eighty five Bears team and
Speaker 1: went to Washington and we were we were We were
Speaker 1: not friends, but hey, I knew him. And during the
Speaker 1: game it was beating the Bridges office man and Will
Speaker 1: was going crazy, crush you kill him, And he wasn't
Speaker 1: saying as nice as I'm saying it now. I looked
Speaker 1: at my home, but like, come on, home boy, y'all
Speaker 1: up about thirty points? What more do you want? You
Speaker 1: were the cowboys? We hate you. We're gonna crush you.
Speaker 1: You don't deserve to be on TV. You stink you.
Speaker 1: I mean, he went off and I'm like, I had
Speaker 1: to sign the hold doll. You're gonna get a delayed
Speaker 1: game if you don't go back to the other because
Speaker 1: he wanted to tell me how bad we was and
Speaker 1: and that taught me right then, ain't no friends on
Speaker 1: this football field and I will be trying to crush
Speaker 1: every player from that point now. If you're my boy
Speaker 1: outter the game, that's fine, But once that whistle blow,
Speaker 1: ain't no friendship. I ain't looking at you. It was like, okay, man,
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure, uh Jesse get through the game. Now.
Speaker 1: Jessephin to get it hit in his face if he
Speaker 1: get wrong on me. And I'm fact Jesse feeling in
Speaker 1: the same way about me, and it has to be
Speaker 1: some type of Michael Jordan. Let's make up something to
Speaker 1: get mad so I can be at my competitive best.
Speaker 1: You always want to be at your best. These players
Speaker 1: say I don't want to put on bad film, Guess
Speaker 1: what they've just done for like eighteen games. You put
Speaker 1: bad film out there, You put very very bad film
Speaker 1: out there because you want to be nice and come on, no,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to discuss it no more, but
Speaker 1: we want to discuss it. Then we'll just go to break.
Speaker 1: Let well, let Nate regroup. We'll let Jesse put the
Speaker 1: beard back on, and Kurt, you look good in that
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Speaker 1: know you had it in the closet. Welcome. Let's take
Speaker 1: our first break. When we come back, we're gonna talk cowboys.
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Speaker 1: I did good? All right. We don't know if we
Speaker 1: can hear everybody. We had some wed some difficulties in
Speaker 1: the in the break, so we'll find out here pretty soon.
Speaker 1: Um Cowboys forty nine ers. I hear Kurt, he's laughing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I hear Jesse. Chris is throwing
Speaker 1: his hands up in the air. We may just need
Speaker 1: to cancel the show. Man. I got I ain't made
Speaker 1: but five I was to pay Jess don't do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody can hear me. We hear you.
Speaker 1: I can hear you, but I can't hear anything else
Speaker 1: about you. There we go. We got Jesse back, got
Speaker 1: jes Yeah, all right, all right, well we'll struggle through this,
Speaker 1: all right, Jess on here. I'm not real sure what's
Speaker 1: going on me either. I have no clue what's going on.
Speaker 1: He Chris Beam is in here. Hang on one second, okay, back, yeah, everybody,
Speaker 1: Now I can hear Shannon. There we go. There, I
Speaker 1: got you, guys. Now, now we're good. Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 1: Screwing up in the studio, it's probably my fault, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even touch my computer when I
Speaker 1: Chris is looking at us, we're idiot. You're looking at
Speaker 1: us like we're gonna have words with Chris after the show.
Speaker 1: But now you can hear us. We're back, all right.
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan said, there's a reason they've been playing good
Speaker 1: football lately. I see guys playing hard, and I see
Speaker 1: a defense is playing very good right now with some
Speaker 1: good play. Is that just coach speak? Kurt wants to
Speaker 1: know or do players on either side really pay attention
Speaker 1: to what other coaches say. Fans aren't buying it? What
Speaker 1: about players? They're not stupid, right, No, they know they're
Speaker 1: playing bad. This is, this is, this is. You know,
Speaker 1: I never want to give a team bulletin board material,
Speaker 1: so I don't I don't want to give them any edge,
Speaker 1: so I kind of, you know, I kind of choke
Speaker 1: their ego and I try to find all the small
Speaker 1: things I can say nice about their defense. Again, you
Speaker 1: can always tell when a coach has true admiration for
Speaker 1: his opponent because they begin to detail things a little bit.
Speaker 1: They'll begin to talk more in depth about certain players
Speaker 1: and kind of really focusing on certain guys. When you
Speaker 1: give like an overall general statement, it's basically like what
Speaker 1: I told my team in the meeting room was that
Speaker 1: these bums suck and we should gas them. But when
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you guys in the media, is that, man,
Speaker 1: they're playing really hard. It's the same thing I said
Speaker 1: before about when a coach is not trying to kind
Speaker 1: of air his own player out, he'll say things like
Speaker 1: playing with really good energy, the kind of guy that
Speaker 1: we like, you know, really good effort. When they don't
Speaker 1: begin to go into details, that's when you know that, oh,
Speaker 1: he's really invested. Because they begin to go into details.
Speaker 1: This is nothing more than coach speak. This is nothing
Speaker 1: more than I don't want to give them. I don't
Speaker 1: want to give a desperate dog any more ammunition. Let them.
Speaker 1: I want them to believe that they're not a bad defense.
Speaker 1: I want them to do all those kinds that. I
Speaker 1: don't want to give them extra motivation to prove whatever
Speaker 1: I'm saying wrong. Yeah, in fact, read these press clipping
Speaker 1: and really feel good about yourself and think what you
Speaker 1: did last week against Cincinnati will be good enough toward
Speaker 1: us this week. Because that's the mindset. If you come
Speaker 1: into the game with that mindset, then we're gonna beat
Speaker 1: your brains in. That's nothing more than coach speak. Man Nate,
Speaker 1: anything to add to that. Yeah, that's the gospel. That's
Speaker 1: the gospel. All right, all right, Cowboys defense forty Hey,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1: I want to ask Jesse something I want to go back.
Speaker 1: Don't you ever tell me to hold on? Hold on?
Speaker 1: Hold on. You can say sorry to interrupt, but don't
Speaker 1: you ever hold on, Hold on, hold on me, Kurt.
Speaker 1: You don't listen. You don't listen. There's a delay on
Speaker 1: that Chris Beam is cut off because I can't hear
Speaker 1: you in real time studio working, because Chris beams in
Speaker 1: there looking at us like we're crazy. We're just talking
Speaker 1: into a microphone. I don't know what's going on. Kurt.
Speaker 1: Don't be mad at me. Be mad at Chris. He's
Speaker 1: got Scott, he's got his boss in there. Tell him
Speaker 1: about it, Scott, get Chris in lying. Let's go. Let's
Speaker 1: get this thing where it's not a twelve second delay.
Speaker 1: Come on, go ahead, Kurt. Are you done? Yes? Good? Okay. So, Jesse,
Speaker 1: you had said you thought Marvin Lewis would be a
Speaker 1: good defensive coordinator. I hope you don't mind me going
Speaker 1: back to this or not. But yesterday you were saying,
Speaker 1: you know, you need a young guy, you need somebody
Speaker 1: who can relate more to the players. And I would
Speaker 1: be concerned with bringing in another retread, so to speak,
Speaker 1: coach older. Yeah, I he's got some skins on the wall,
Speaker 1: but our players gonna relate to that if they need
Speaker 1: somebody that's going to be a little more new tech.
Speaker 1: So to speak. Yeah, you know, I found myself between
Speaker 1: you know, being the Gospel and being a hypocrite. And
Speaker 1: the only thing that I can kind of say to
Speaker 1: defend no, no, to defend myself in that moment, is
Speaker 1: is that Marvin is was just one of the first
Speaker 1: names that I thought about. The more I dig into
Speaker 1: it and look at more of the younger generation and
Speaker 1: what's more, out the offer, I will bring more names
Speaker 1: to the table. But last to night, as I was
Speaker 1: having my porcelain throne thinking moment, that was one of
Speaker 1: the names that first came to my mind about defensive cording,
Speaker 1: and so that's why I brought it up today. M Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I don't want I am a hypocrite in some
Speaker 1: points and aspects of my life. But but to your point,
Speaker 1: you know, I do think there is some there has
Speaker 1: to hold some merit that Marvin. I played for Marvin,
Speaker 1: and even back in two thousand and seven, two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight, you know, the way that he was able
Speaker 1: to relate to players, and if you ask any of
Speaker 1: his former players, like Marvin was a guy who was
Speaker 1: very relatable, who was very you know, wasn't just all
Speaker 1: about the X and those was more was a lot
Speaker 1: about the person. And I think that's how he got
Speaker 1: so much out of people was because they know that
Speaker 1: he truly cared about him past the XS and those.
Speaker 1: And I think him being at the college level the
Speaker 1: last couple of years because him and Herm Edwards they've
Speaker 1: been they've been football NFL lifers, right, and so I
Speaker 1: think with them going back to college, there had to
Speaker 1: be there. There had to be in a level of
Speaker 1: adjustment because you're dealing with You're not You're not dealing
Speaker 1: with dudes for making eight nine twelve million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: You tell them to doaling assignment, they go do assignment.
Speaker 1: You're dealing with seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty year olds who
Speaker 1: you got to stay on top of. And you yourself
Speaker 1: have to kind of keep yourself engaged to what's going on,
Speaker 1: whether that be technology wise, whether that be lingo wise,
Speaker 1: just so that you're able to keep up with that.
Speaker 1: And I also think that brings in Marvin knows, you know,
Speaker 1: I can't do this by myself. I also need to
Speaker 1: bring in if I'm going to be the DC, then
Speaker 1: my linebacker lineman coach, dB coach. They also need to
Speaker 1: have a younger energy. So that where I where there's
Speaker 1: a gap between me and them, they make up that slack.
Speaker 1: My assistants make up that slack in you know, whether
Speaker 1: that be a dB coach or linebacker coach or safety's
Speaker 1: coach or whoever coach that there is this line of
Speaker 1: all right, we're all in line and I'm at the
Speaker 1: top at the DC, but the guy underneath me as
Speaker 1: well are helping me relate as I'm learning more and
Speaker 1: more how to relate to this younger generation. I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have had that this year with their defense
Speaker 1: because obviously Mike Nolan is pretty old school of teams.
Speaker 1: Do they have assistance? I think the Cowboys need better players, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys need a new coach, but the Cowboys need
Speaker 1: to cleanse themselves or some of these bad players. They
Speaker 1: really do, They really do need to cleanse themselves or
Speaker 1: some of these bad players. And again Mike McCarthy, he
Speaker 1: hired Mike Nolan, so yes, but Mike Nolan as well
Speaker 1: as some of these bad players on this team, and
Speaker 1: they are these again we watch the time and time
Speaker 1: again these guys not tackling, these guys missing their assignments
Speaker 1: like that that's nothing to do with relatability. That has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with that ask. Everything to do with
Speaker 1: how much time you're actually putting in on your craft,
Speaker 1: on what you want to do. And I think more,
Speaker 1: I think these guys are more interested and their brand,
Speaker 1: and uh, look at me and my you know, my
Speaker 1: jersey cells and my everything else. The separation shouldn't be
Speaker 1: It should be all football and then in the office,
Speaker 1: and I worry about the other stuff. I think that
Speaker 1: they worry about too much stuff happening right now. You
Speaker 1: gotta cleanse some of that stuff out of the system
Speaker 1: and get some and get some new blood in here. Nate.
Speaker 1: We did a little show last night called cross Talk.
Speaker 1: We had a very special guest, super Bowl thirty MVP
Speaker 1: Larry Brown, affectionately known as lbdu What did both of
Speaker 1: you say about players last night? They need them, They
Speaker 1: need them terribly. They need them terribly. Man. Uh you
Speaker 1: you you can bring in uh eighty five bears. Devon's
Speaker 1: a coordinator. I mean, you get some players, bro. Jack
Speaker 1: Dear Rio is a retread of retreads of retreads played
Speaker 1: with Jack dear where he is retread central, but he
Speaker 1: got full horses up front with a closer called Kurgan
Speaker 1: and Washington, and they ain't have a new problem. And
Speaker 1: I think the question. The way we got to that
Speaker 1: was when we're talking about the you know, the year
Speaker 1: long debate is it scheme is that the players and
Speaker 1: you and Larry both said you gotta get better guys
Speaker 1: in here in certain positions, like you gotta get players
Speaker 1: in here. But the reality is, and we talked about this,
Speaker 1: you can't turn the whole roster over, right, So how
Speaker 1: do you deal with that? You know you gotta get players,
Speaker 1: is it? How do you bring guys in but then
Speaker 1: keep certain guys? You know you gotta make a change,
Speaker 1: You gotta change the culture. But you can't just purge
Speaker 1: the whole team. What do they do in the offseason?
Speaker 1: They just go ahead and find the best players? You know? Possible?
Speaker 1: This problem I think the Cowboys have And I know
Speaker 1: wepp we talking about the forty ninees, but this ain't
Speaker 1: about the forty nine. It's about the Cowboys first and foremost.
Speaker 1: You settle your quarterback position. You take care of that,
Speaker 1: whether you want him or not, whether you're gonna play
Speaker 1: games with the draft not, You take care of your
Speaker 1: quarterback position. Once you take care of your quarterback position.
Speaker 1: Then you start trying to find ways to help your defense,
Speaker 1: whether it's through free agency. And see as a fan,
Speaker 1: as a fan only, I'm saying, you should not be
Speaker 1: allowed to tell us you can't go out and get
Speaker 1: a good guy to help your defense. You know, because
Speaker 1: we're here who work here and say, well, you know,
Speaker 1: the first two weeks the Cowboys not gonna do nothing. Well,
Speaker 1: this is a dire situation. So you're not allowed as
Speaker 1: a fan to say we're not gonna find some players
Speaker 1: and we're not gonna pay decent money for decent players.
Speaker 1: Number two is and I believe in Bucky Brooks, and
Speaker 1: I believe in what he's saying. I believe in what young, young,
Speaker 1: you old one is saying. And the draft is whacked
Speaker 1: as far as what the Cowboys need. It's not nothing
Speaker 1: there that you know, unless you go out and find
Speaker 1: that special player. And he's like, oh, okay, we found
Speaker 1: a diamond in the rough. So you got to find
Speaker 1: a way to manipulate this thing. And it's gonna come
Speaker 1: back to what Jesse has been saying for the couple
Speaker 1: of last couple of years. We're gonna have to find
Speaker 1: ways offensively until this defense catch up, which is I
Speaker 1: don't know when to control the time possession while scoring. Uh.
Speaker 1: The forty nine has had the perfect last year. And
Speaker 1: the thing and the thing is the thing is that
Speaker 1: we you know, we look at Washington right and we're gonna, god,
Speaker 1: look at those dogs, and we look at you know,
Speaker 1: a healthy forty nine teen. We're going to god, le
Speaker 1: look at those dogs. And here's the thing. We don't
Speaker 1: need what Washington had, thank you. We don't need what
Speaker 1: the Niners had when they're healthy. We don't. We don't
Speaker 1: actually need that we need we need just we need
Speaker 1: a halfway. We just need a halfway decent defense. We
Speaker 1: just need somebody and some players that's going to give
Speaker 1: us effort and alignment. Like we don't need the eighty
Speaker 1: five Beris, we don't need the two thousand Ravens. We
Speaker 1: don't need any of those type of teams. Those are
Speaker 1: nice and those are great. We have an offense that
Speaker 1: is polandent enough to go out and score thirty thirty
Speaker 1: five plus points. We just need a defense that don't
Speaker 1: give up thirty six if we that's it. Like like
Speaker 1: like when we're talking about building a defense, tell you what.
Speaker 1: Ye'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. Go ahead of Jess, I'll tell you what. Why. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the guys we need. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you the guys we need. We don't. We don't
Speaker 1: need it, we don't need. That's going to be. You know,
Speaker 1: Fred Warner at middle linebacker, and we had just that
Speaker 1: one dude that came from on How you state that
Speaker 1: that was hurt that got hurt for them this year?
Speaker 1: The who the both we just had Bolsa and Fred Warning.
Speaker 1: You're looking at a totally different defense. That's it. That's
Speaker 1: all you need. That's all I'm telling you. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you you you looking at them totally back. Give me Blake,
Speaker 1: Give me Blake Martinez. Give me Blake Martinez from the Giants,
Speaker 1: who was who was in Green Bad at one point
Speaker 1: in time. Give me that tackling them. Yeah, yeah, give
Speaker 1: me guys like that. Give me like you. You're talking
Speaker 1: about kid that left development, you're talking about the kid
Speaker 1: that went to um Kansas City Member Hitchens. Hitchens. You
Speaker 1: need players that do their job, is what we're trying
Speaker 1: to say. You need players that dude, look at Washington, right,
Speaker 1: A guy like a guy like the Hohlekem kid, the
Speaker 1: guy like a Holekem kid in Washington, right. He was
Speaker 1: an undrafted guy, but he's one of the best tacklers.
Speaker 1: Always like he's one of the best tacklers. He doesn
Speaker 1: not fancy, it's not pretty. He'll have about four or
Speaker 1: five sacks on the year, he'll have eighty nine tackles,
Speaker 1: but he'll beat in position to do his job consistently
Speaker 1: every single time. The problem with us is we have
Speaker 1: too many guys on defense who mess up too many
Speaker 1: times in big, key critical situations. We don't have to
Speaker 1: have Pro bowlers all across the board. Those are nice,
Speaker 1: and we have players on our team. I think, I
Speaker 1: think once you get you know, a guy like you
Speaker 1: know Randy Gregory and Alder Smith. I think once those
Speaker 1: guys now get all season back underneath their belts, they're
Speaker 1: gonna probably be back to some sort of or close
Speaker 1: to Pro Bowl level. DeMarcus Lawrence is going to be
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl level. So you got guys like that
Speaker 1: already on your team. The development of Digs, you keep
Speaker 1: allowing him to grow into build. I'm not saying gonna
Speaker 1: be a pro bowler. But you're gonna be a damn
Speaker 1: good corner right now. You add a piece here and
Speaker 1: you add a piece there. You don't have to have
Speaker 1: the eighty five bears. I just can't get our tails
Speaker 1: kicked every single week. I just don't want us given
Speaker 1: up three hundred yards to a dude off the bench.
Speaker 1: I don't want us being just totally dominated for four
Speaker 1: quarters because we can't stop the run or team's gonna
Speaker 1: do with like that's it. That's it, because once we
Speaker 1: get a four, once we get our quarterback back, and
Speaker 1: we don't even have to have it, it's very clear
Speaker 1: that we don't even have to have an all star
Speaker 1: offensive line anymore. Thank you. Those days are kind of
Speaker 1: past us already, right. I think once we get our
Speaker 1: quarterback back and a healthy, like just a rotation of
Speaker 1: guys offensively, we can score with anybody. We can score
Speaker 1: with anybody. I just need the defense to be okay,
Speaker 1: be middle of the road, be ranked somewhere twelve thirteen, fifteen, sixteen,
Speaker 1: don't be damned, non'bob, be thirty second and everything. Don't
Speaker 1: look up, and you thirty second to this, and you
Speaker 1: thirty second to this, and you thirty second to this,
Speaker 1: because like now, you put so much oners, in pressure
Speaker 1: on the offense to be perfect that they have zero
Speaker 1: room for error. And with our explosive offense, there's anytime
Speaker 1: you have explosive offense, there's gonna be era every now
Speaker 1: and again. But we should be comfortable enough to say,
Speaker 1: you know what punned, our defense will be able to
Speaker 1: do good enough to get the ball back force or
Speaker 1: baby gonna stop. I'm not saying you gotta be you know,
Speaker 1: shut down, no flies on, none of that kind of
Speaker 1: you know, the purple people eaters or the Steve curtain. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying any of that. I'm just saying, don't
Speaker 1: be booble. All right, don't be tissue paper after Nate
Speaker 1: has had taco bell. Okay, don't be okay. You know
Speaker 1: this is a show. This is and move up, Move
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Speaker 1: we do a lot of things for the first time
Speaker 1: on here, and we usually call him out. This is
Speaker 1: the first time I can recall Jesse getting so worked
Speaker 1: up and so passionate that he actually ran out of
Speaker 1: breath in the middle of a point he was trying
Speaker 1: to make. You ran and suck it in and go
Speaker 1: and then continue to wrap it up and still kept going. Man,
Speaker 1: all right, we gotta take our last break when we
Speaker 1: come back about eight minutes to talk forty nine ers Cowboys.
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Speaker 1: today just to heads up after this. Nate and I, Kurt,
Speaker 1: you and Jesse and we're than welcome to join if
Speaker 1: you want to. If not, we totally understand. It's last minute.
Speaker 1: We just found out a little while ago we will
Speaker 1: be interviewing Michael Gallop for tomorrow's show. So if you
Speaker 1: guys can jump in, that's great. Jessee, I know your
Speaker 1: big time and you probably won't want to do it.
Speaker 1: And Kurt, you're more than welcome to do it. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk two minutes, were talking twenty two minutes, Kurt,
Speaker 1: it'll be fifteen minutes. We'll we're spoke this time. So
Speaker 1: but you're more than welcome to join so hopefully we'll
Speaker 1: have all I'm saying, player that you guys talk to
Speaker 1: has had a bad game after this, Well, don't tell
Speaker 1: Michael that and don't let that get out because we've
Speaker 1: got a few more of these to do before the
Speaker 1: end of the year. So especially if Kurt, If Kurt
Speaker 1: talk to a bad thing, you mus didn't even listen
Speaker 1: to the interview. It was a good interview, was it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the player, the player was confused. Um, all right, Kurt,
Speaker 1: we got a few We got a few minutes, got
Speaker 1: a few minutes, We got about six minutes. It's left talk.
Speaker 1: Let's talk at least a little Cowboys forty nine Ers
Speaker 1: before we get into Friday show. So you got a
Speaker 1: few points there, take it away. Yeah, my buddy Michael's
Speaker 1: tuning in and he's a big forty nine Ers fan.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately I try not to hold that against him, but
Speaker 1: he's wondering, just in time for the Cowboys, of course,
Speaker 1: that the forty nine Ers might get Great Kittle back,
Speaker 1: which is the worst news for the Cowboys. Possibly, But
Speaker 1: how much can he change this game? What kind of
Speaker 1: a player is he going to be, and how can
Speaker 1: they possibly slow this guy down? If he does play
Speaker 1: can cover y who's supposed to cover him? The safety
Speaker 1: is in the linebackers. Who's on first linebackers is supposed
Speaker 1: to cover safeties. Well, you know, I was looking this
Speaker 1: year the let's see linebackers. What's said? Step opponents are
Speaker 1: completing seventy eight percent of their passes to to tight
Speaker 1: ends this year at nine point four yards per catch.
Speaker 1: That's not terrible, is it. I mean the best that's
Speaker 1: almost first down every time they touched them balls. Man,
Speaker 1: I mean, all you gotta do is on first down
Speaker 1: and get a yard and a half you're tight end
Speaker 1: for to get you a first So hey, the thing
Speaker 1: that that the Cowboys have to do mine is turn
Speaker 1: the ball over. That's that's that saving grace. They have
Speaker 1: to continue to remember the tackle and turn the ball over.
Speaker 1: That that that that is going to be their saving grace.
Speaker 1: Because what they're seventy percent of the time when they're
Speaker 1: running their offense run or past, they are motioning somewhere
Speaker 1: on their offense. They're moving people seventy eight percent of
Speaker 1: the time. So what confuses the Dallas Cowboys linebackers in
Speaker 1: second Dairy's motion, So and they running backs can get
Speaker 1: downhill in a hurry. They running backs and get it
Speaker 1: now they run outside his own game, but they running
Speaker 1: backs can turn north and south in a hurry. So
Speaker 1: you know. And Kittles is physical. He do not run
Speaker 1: away from from from from the from from competition. He
Speaker 1: loved it. Man, he gonna if Jayalen want to talk,
Speaker 1: he gonna talk with him. If if if Layton want
Speaker 1: to howl, he gonna howl louder. So they everything you
Speaker 1: want to do, Kittle is down with it, and then
Speaker 1: he can outfinish you. And he definitely can outrun you
Speaker 1: not turning. Maybe the first time this year, this year
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are facing a team who uses a
Speaker 1: fullback pretty regularly. To Kyle, Oh, he's nice. I'm sure
Speaker 1: he perhaps the last name. Hey, he's in on forty
Speaker 1: one percent of the snaps and he's pretty active in
Speaker 1: the passing game. How has that changed things up for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys? Is it? No? Things say pretty much the
Speaker 1: same confusion things, pretty much saying it's gonna be confusing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. I mean, I'm not trying to be
Speaker 1: the Gospel Hill. I'm just trying to talk with reasoning.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right, said Look at anything, because Nick
Speaker 1: Mullins is a bad quarterback, be a d bad and
Speaker 1: so they're gonna try to run the ball. They're gonna
Speaker 1: try to run the ball a lot, and then when
Speaker 1: they can't run the ball, they're gonna find ways to
Speaker 1: get you checked the fullback and Greg Kittle to tight
Speaker 1: end and match ups against guys who cannot cover them
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, Layton Vander esh and a lot of the
Speaker 1: routes that George Kittle runs, he runs those deep overs,
Speaker 1: those dig routes, those option routes. And if you think
Speaker 1: for one second you're going to arm tackle George Kittle,
Speaker 1: who's been out for the last couple of weeks and
Speaker 1: got some fresh legs and who is an energy guy,
Speaker 1: you're you're sadly mistaking yourself and you're gonna find yourself
Speaker 1: in a world of trouble if you think you're not
Speaker 1: gonna bring the full house to tackle a guy like
Speaker 1: George Kittle. That's the best thing that could have happened
Speaker 1: to the Niners team, because now when they can't run
Speaker 1: the ball for whatever reason, maybe that guy missed the
Speaker 1: block and now it's you know, third and eight, look
Speaker 1: for George Kittle to be there for Mullins to convert
Speaker 1: the first down. When I when I saw that George
Speaker 1: Kittle was playing, it crushed my soul a little bit
Speaker 1: because I was like, we have no one on We
Speaker 1: have no one or anyone that could stop him before
Speaker 1: we get out of here. Time is almost up, Jesse
Speaker 1: one more time? How can people help? Jesse's help Holly's
Speaker 1: Helping Hands You you can go to my Twitter at
Speaker 1: mister fourth to long the number four four th h
Speaker 1: A and d l O n G at mister fourth
Speaker 1: and long. Uh. The link is in my bio is
Speaker 1: also in the pin tweet that is up there. It's
Speaker 1: PayPal Nate. That's just how we do things, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah again right here. If if anything helps, I promise
Speaker 1: you and these guys are gonna experience that tonight when
Speaker 1: we're shopping, You'm be like, man, I didn't know I
Speaker 1: can get this, this, this and this, and we're you know,
Speaker 1: we work with Old Navy at Great Vine Mills Mall. Uh.
Speaker 1: They do a tremendous job with helping us out with that.
Speaker 1: If you don't have Twitter, you can email me at
Speaker 1: Holly's h O l O e Y s Helping Hands
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com, Holly's Helping Hands h A. N. D. S.
Speaker 1: S at the end of Holly at the end of
Speaker 1: Hands at gmail dot com. Holly's Helping hand at gmail
Speaker 1: dot com. I can shoot you the link and you
Speaker 1: can donate that way. If there's some people, it's in
Speaker 1: a DFLB. Are you know, we can always use about
Speaker 1: another one or two volume tears. We got thirty six
Speaker 1: kids to shop for tonight. That's a lot of kids
Speaker 1: you never shot meet me and stuff tonight. And I'm
Speaker 1: reading here say, Holly's Helping Hands need your help. Any
Speaker 1: amount would do? Two hundred, three hundred, four hundred dollars? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: specifically for rich guys like you you Zion all your
Speaker 1: all your rich guys, all your rich fellows. Hey, Jesse.
Speaker 1: If times are tough right now for a lot of people,
Speaker 1: but if somebody's just wanting to participate and just give
Speaker 1: back a little bit, what's a minimum of mouth that
Speaker 1: they can give? Five five dollars? Yeah, five dollars, right,
Speaker 1: people get five dollars, ten dollars, And I promise you,
Speaker 1: when you get enough five dollars and you put them
Speaker 1: five dollars in the pot, they you can buy something.
Speaker 1: I promise you, whether it be socks, underwear, shirts, you
Speaker 1: can buy something and we can make it go a
Speaker 1: very long All right, awesome, Well, we're gonna go tonight
Speaker 1: to keep Jesse straight, to make sure that you're hard
Speaker 1: earning money that you are donating is spent properly and
Speaker 1: in the right way. We're gonna keep Jesse in check.
Speaker 1: So now, great thing you're doing, Jesse, can't wait to
Speaker 1: be a part of it tonight. Uh, we'll report back
Speaker 1: on it tomorrow on the show. Hopefully we'll have a
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Shannon to help, an interview. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: help you. You need help. You need helping more than
Speaker 1: one way, but I'll do what I can. Hopefully we
Speaker 1: had for everybody, say when I was a kid, look
Speaker 1: where I'm in and look where you're at. Nine. Hopefully
Speaker 1: we have an MG and MG Michael Gallop thirteen interview
Speaker 1: tomorrow that won't be twenty two minutes long. Guy, you
Speaker 1: were better when we were little, but now I am.
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