WEBVTT - Marlins Looking Dangerous Again as Trade Deadline Eve Arrives 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.120 Hey, this is Kyle Stowers and you're listening to Fish 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:38.519 on First. Welcome to Fish on First Live here on 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.320 the Fish on First podcast, presented by jet Ski Rentals 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:43.760 of South Florida. We're part of the Foul Territory Network. 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:46.000 Kevin and I we are on the same page. Started 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.080 watching that intro with Kyle Stowers cueing us in, and 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.760 all of a sudden, you know, gotta think about on 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:53.519 the editing side if I have to make some sort 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.000 of tweaks to the intro by the time we have 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:58.320 our next show. This is going to focus quite a 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:03.040 bit on all things trade deadline related, twenty three hours 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.080 away from the deadline itself, but we're also on the 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.759 heels of a very compelling series win for the Marlins 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:10.120 over the Mets. So thank you to everybody joining us 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:13.200 live on YouTube, on Twitter, on Facebook. Feel free to 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.280 leave your comments, we'll pull them up. We'll answer as 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.840 many questions as possible. We're gonna save some of the 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.040 burning trade deadline rumors discussion for the second half of 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:22.800 the show, just because those things keep evolving and we 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:26.040 don't want to be too outdated. Just focus in on 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:27.440 what we know so far and what we know so 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.640 far is that the Marlins won a series against the Mets, 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.479 including the last three games in a row, the last 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.680 couple with myself and attendance. So we'll be relatively quick 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.760 on this, Kevin. But just your main takeaways from this 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:40.760 but not just this series, but I guess you could 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:42.959 combining it with the Phillies one. They've won six out 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.319 of seven games since it felt like the team was 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.840 leaning towards being a seller, and they've played about as 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.720 well as possible ever since then, including these last three 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:56.080 where the pitching itself has especially stepped up. A shutout today. Yeah, 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.000 really good baseball from this team all of a sudden, 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.880 looking like June again now that we're hearing early based 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:01.640 on how they're performing. 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:06.160 Peter Bendix maybe, and one of the toughest positions in baseball, 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:09.280 because you looked at this team after the twelve game 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.480 losing streak and and the position felt good. Right, You're 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:16.040 gonna go into a spot where you're not gonna sell, 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.680 particularly but you can't. You're not gonna buy either. You're 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.520 not gonna buy Reynolds. You're not gonna go for Renolds. 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.640 This week of Marlins baseball, you know, makes you even 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.600 like for the fans. I really feel for fans because man, 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:30.640 you're you're in such a weird spot. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:31.919 Peter is in such a weird spot. 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.799 But this team played super well, Sandy with two great 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:38.800 outings this week. Good today for the most part. Pitch 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.360 count was a bit higher, so couldn't even get out 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.520 of the seventh couldn't recording out in the seventh inning. 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.000 Oh in that game. But Joe Mack. 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.320 Continues to do his thing like this is this is fun. 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.400 This is a fun team. This is a fun series 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.680 for the Marlins, much needed after what happened in Queens 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:56.880 the first time. And I think a big part of 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.240 it too, Pete Fairbanks closing it out twice and it's 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.639 just smoother and smoother each time, which is what they 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.040 expected early on in the season. And you know one 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.440 thing AJ was telling us on Fish and Filter and 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.080 he said it multiple times, like Pete Fairbanks's safe situations 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:13.720 hasn't necessarily been terrible. 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:14.359 Now. 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:15.760 Part of that is because. 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.720 If it's been a substantial enough lead to where he 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.040 doesn't totally blow it, he has blown games. But yeah, no, uh, 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.840 he's starting to finally, I think execute the execution part 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:29.560 of it is finally starting to kick in, and I think, Eli, 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.600 you noted this, like his FIP is finally below five, 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:32.440 so that's great. 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.120 But no, it was a good it was a good serious. 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:41.040 Overall offense was I think still lackluster, but I think 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.200 he'll take the pitching and the way that they pitched, 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.640 and you wrote about him today shout out Michael Peterson. 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:49.360 Holy shit, like going in their bases loaded, no outs 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:50.720 and to get out of it the way he did 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.600 it was was really impressive. And that's I'm sure a 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:55.960 name that's gonna be popping up in the next twenty 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.000 less than twenty four Yeah, it's less than twenty four hours, 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.480 twenty three hours until the trade deadline. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:02.080 So yeah, good series. 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.160 Marls out just one game out, not all the games 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.240 are over yet. I think they're about to be. Padres 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.280 and Giants were sold out in a lout, which is 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.400 a big game for the Marlins where you would like 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:15.680 Louise Arrias and the Giants to make something happen. So yeah, 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:17.599 they're still in a good spot. And I'm sure we'll 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.279 talk about all the ramifications of how the deadline, could 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.920 you know, do this and you know, change things up 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:24.160 and position that they're in. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:25.920 Hey, he cued it in. We got to do a 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.480 quick Michael Peterson segment, which was I was not expecting 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:30.920 on this show, talking about the state of the Marlins 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.200 and trade deadline and all these big things going on. 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.320 He's such an important part of everything they're doing. I 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.640 give you credit. I think you were sold on Peterson 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:39.480 earlier in the year than I was. I still had 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.000 my reservations until I would say, just the last few 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.000 weeks when he's just continue to be graty. He survived 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.240 that comeback or scare. Remember he missed a couple of 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:48.520 games when once he got hit by a very sharp 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.320 comebacker that was barely a week ago, and now he's 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.080 back to normal again. But just for people that weren't 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.000 watching today, like today was his masterpiece. This was his 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:00.320 best work to this point. The fact that they were 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.440 one nothing game in the seventh inning. Sandy goes out 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.080 there for the seventh and he allows a couple of base 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.600 runners to begin with second and third, nobody out. When 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.479 Peterson comes in, he walks the lead off, got the 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.120 first batter he faces to load the bases with nobody out, 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.320 and then he wiggles out of it. Granted it was 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.359 against some of the weaker hitters in the marrow in 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.000 the Mets lineup, but he gets a strikeout, another strikeout, 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.719 a grounder to leave it unscathed. He has now stranded 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:28.040 twenty inherited runners out of twenty two, only two. I've 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.880 scored on him all year long in those situations. He's 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.200 become the go to guy. It's been to give you 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.560 interesting compet's like Andrew Nardi in twenty twenty three for 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.719 people that remember that, because I remember going through the 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.880 same splits with Nardi when that was his first full 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:41.919 major league season and he broke out in a very 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.640 big way. That was where he really separated himself is 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.880 with those inherited runners. And now Peterson is that guy 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.960 doing the exact same thing this year, somebody that they 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.359 claimed off waivers. I think two separate times. He's really 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.680 bounced arounds. Essentially, he had no value in this league 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:58.560 at this time less than a year ago, a guy 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.400 that was barely, you know, in the situation to make 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.160 the roster coming out of camp this year, he had 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:06.080 to really pitch his ass off in spring training. I 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.760 remember it was a storyline when he skipped the WBC 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.160 just to focus on making the team. And now to me, 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.200 he's been the most important reliever now that Bender has 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:18.360 been injured. Fairbanks has been so inconsistent this year. Peterson 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:19.839 is the one that they trust in all these different 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.400 situations and the way that the win probability swung with 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.159 him in the game, like from sixty five percent chance 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.600 the Mets would win to twenty five percent chance in 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:30.440 that one ending, just because he was able to wiggle 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:31.159 out of it the way. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:31.479 That he did. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:34.280 And you kind of brought it up too though. At 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.520 this time of year, the Marlins are listening on everybody, 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.520 and for somebody like him, where his value has gone 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.280 up so much from where it was a few months ago, 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.160 they're going to get some sort of offers on him. 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.719 I would think some sort of attention. That's something that 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:50.240 the front office is always considering. And I spoke to 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.080 him after the game today and just as like the 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:53.520 parting comment, I said, what are you going to do 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:57.800 tomorrow during deadline Day? And he said he's gonna maybe 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.880 throw his phone in the water so that he doesn't 0:06:59.920 --> 0:07:02.480 have any chance to pay attention to it whatsoever. A 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.240 very interesting guy at his feet too, and We hope 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.679 that he has several more years left with the Marlins 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:09.920 moving forward, because he's been a great story and important 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.640 part of the team. So his presence was really felt today. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.119 A couple other things from the series as a whole. 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.880 Sandy did pitch well for the vast majority of this 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.360 game until that seventh inning. He gets his twelfth win 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:23.720 of the season. They haven't been giving him much run 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.400 support as of late, and yet he's still been able 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.720 to with zero margin foreer, both in this game and 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:29.640 at his previous start as well. That was a shoutout 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.080 when earlier this week he's performing great. The contrast in 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:34.920 his performance between now and where it was that the 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.640 deadline last year is night and day. That's been awesome. 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.520 And to me, they get Owen Casey back, that's so 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.120 I guess let's talk about that briefly. He was reinstated 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.040 on Saturday. He plays today, pretty quiet game from him overall, 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:48.640 just the fact that they have him back now. And 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.360 this is going to lead into some of the trade 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.080 deadline discussion we have is the Marlins are really deep 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.840 now and left handed hitters in particular. It's Kyle Stowers, 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.520 it's Liam Hicks, it's Griffin co nine biggest of all, 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:00.360 he's been the best one he's actually been on the 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.840 field this season in terms of performance. And now it's 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.080 Casey Back who's been You've been trying him pretty closely. 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.840 The way that his hitting has improved steadily as the 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.040 year has gone on, especially in June and July up 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.560 until his injury. That's a good problem to have between 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.080 all those guys that play some of the same positions, 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.920 and then Jacob Marcy, another left handed hitter and the 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:20.640 one that they can put in the center field on 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.600 most days, and he's been coming around a little bit 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.880 as of late two. That's kind of leading into why 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:28.920 it is that these guys are attracting interests, why the 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.160 Marlins are very openly listening on these hitters, is because 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.280 it's a lot of overlap in their skill sets. A 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.040 lot of guys that do things well but do some 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:39.040 of the same things really well. And that's why we 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.120 think that, you know, there's a solid chance that Marlins 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.360 move off of one of them over these next twenty 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:44.240 three hours. 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.079 Yeah, and you know, you look at the situation with 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.520 Hicks and where he's at right now, and you know. 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:51.840 You notice this too. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.600 The position player pool and the forty man roster believe 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.280 is completely healthy for the first time all season all year, 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.240 which is awesome to hear and great and it's good 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:01.840 situation to have at the end of the day. But 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:06.560 you're also in a position where you know that means 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.800 that it's a lot less playing time to go around Hicks. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.000 You're a little bit it's a little complicated because you 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:15.440 have Navaretto on the roster, and it's not not to 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.040 slade an Avatta, but he's kind of like a like 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.120 a nobody on the roster, kind of like you'll get 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:24.800 in there, here and there, not a lot. He's like, yes, essentially, 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.040 he's like the Rob Brantley of last year, but he's 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:29.320 not affecting playing time. 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.400 That's the issue that the guy that is. 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.559 Kind of the the the one that's blocking others from 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.439 playing time, specifically, like a co nine and a case 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:39.480 and a burt I. Guess you could make the case 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.400 it's it's Hicks because Stowers is not playing first base 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.439 every day, so that's that's settled. Hicks is the one 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.040 that's d hing every day because Joe Mack has just 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.480 been so good behind the plate, and rightfully so that 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.520 that's who you should be rolling out, And that's the 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.920 Marrons putting a lot of confidence in Joe Mack, which 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:57.800 is why they're dangling someone like a Hicks and trade 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.400 in the trade market. So you trade Hicks, you open 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.760 the DH spot to guys like a ConA and Casey 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.600 Burt who could all play there and play the outfield, 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.960 and you could still play Morris and Ruiz. It's it's 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.440 a very interesting situation to have. But I think if 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.080 you're Peter Bendix and you know you're the Marlins, this is. 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:15.040 A great situation to have. 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.199 This is exactly the situation I have, and and the 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.400 way the catching markets playing out, where no catchers have 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.559 been moved, Oh only Logan O Hoppy has been moved, 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:23.960 and that was like what is now a seller and 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.640 the Rangers, I mean, Hicks is probably the most valuable 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:31.760 catcher out there because I don't think Shay Langley has 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.920 has hurt Ryan Jeffers doesn't look like he's getting traded 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.080 since the Twins are in a buying position, which they've 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.320 already shown with two trades that they've made. So that's 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.880 an interesting case. The Marlins really could probably get more 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.680 for Hicks than then Stowers are sold because of the 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.000 need for a catcher. But we're talking about this in 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.200 our chat just before, where just comparing you know, Hicks 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.280 and Stowers and the potential returns there. I think, you know, 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.720 with Houston, you're looking at a different return for Stowers, 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.240 guys who are maybe a little further out but will 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.079 certainly help your farm system in the long run. And 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:02.840 with Hicks, I would hope, you know, at the end 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:04.600 of the day, regardless of the return, I do hope 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.000 that they would find a controllable starter or something that 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.319 I hope they will do because I do think they 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.199 need it regardless of the gud's returning. 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.320 But they're still uncertainty next year. But no, Casey great 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:15.839 to have back. 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.280 He is two months stretch in June and July have 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.440 been awesome. Unfortunately it was derailed by the injury. But 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.280 I know who's in the lineup today. He played, didn't 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.640 do much, but he'll be I think just got to 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.720 give him some time to get things going. And this 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.640 is a big series coming up, regardless of what the 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.240 Marlins do to the deadline, because they're. 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:32.880 In a good spot. 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.080 It's a division where it's a division rival, and to 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:37.920 say the least, the Marlins are on a spot where 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.959 now they're kind of neck and neck with the Phillies 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:41.959 for that number two spot in the MLE East, and 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:44.079 you could be seeing a case. I don't know exactly 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.360 what the division looks like right now about who knows. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:50.200 Hmm. Yeah, something that kind of jumps out to me. 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:54.000 Something I want to emphasize is that regardless of exactly 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.640 what they do at the deadline, just based on performance, 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.120 this is a team that is going to be competing 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.320 the rest of the year. It's it's a question, but 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.160 you know how many resources they allocate towards building out 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:05.360 the roster the rest of the season. But this is 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.080 a team that is good enough to stay in the 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:08.600 raids for the rest of the year as long as 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.880 they don't sell off everybody, which we don't anticipate. We 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.000 think they're going to be selective. They're going to listen 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.360 offers on these significant players and might end up trading 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:18.720 one or two guys that are a big piece of 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:20.840 the roster. I know earlier, say you predicted that Liam 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.760 Hicks and Xavier Edwards could be to those guys to go. 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:25.600 So yeah, we're going to get into that in a moment. 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.800 What I wanted to cover first is some trades that 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.720 have already been made around the league that may have 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.040 caught your attention for one reason or another, Ones that 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:37.160 may impact the Marlins from some aspect, or ones that 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.880 you just find out that are somewhat interesting. So I 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.440 have this trade tracker from men only trade rumors that 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.280 I'll scroll through and you can just stop me when 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.240 something catches your eye on here. But deals that have 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:54.439 already happened around stop to some extent, A lot of 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.319 these just over the last twenty four hours or so, 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.000 I guess, I guess we'll skip ahead to the Trek 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.440 skoobl one just to be and with school. Well, this 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:05.280 is a guy the as we kind of emphasize, he's 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.880 the grand prize of this deadline, the crown Jewel. He 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.400 was always going to be the biggest name to move 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.160 at this deadline, and the Tigers pull the trigger. They 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.000 send him to the two time defending champ Los Angeles 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.320 Dodgers for a three player package highlighted by Zaire Hope 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.760 and outfield prospect in River Ryan, who is one of 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.199 the oldest pitching prospects. He is the oldest like pitching 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.600 quote prospect in baseball, a guy that is exceptionally talented 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.400 but actually pretty deep into his twenties and just didn't 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.800 have room in that Dodgers rotation. So I guess your 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.200 thoughts on that first, even though this is a guy that, 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:39.120 of course the Marlins were never going to be in on, 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.000 but just the facts as a baseball fan that has 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:45.400 been falling across the league, and the fact that the Dodgers, 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.840 it's just they do this every year getting but just 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.560 when you think that they are deep enough and talented enough, 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.040 as they are have enough star power, they just have 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.400 these limited, seemingly limitless amounts of resources in terms of 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.120 both the money they can spend it in the prospect 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.120 capital because they're so good at like building up their 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.680 farm system again that they end up making what the 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.640 Tigers felt was the best bid on Schooble. So I 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:09.920 do you think how much Not now a question of 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.319 whether the Adgers are World Series favorites now, but I 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:13.960 guess how much of a favorite do you think they 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.520 are now over every other team now that they added 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.480 him to a team that itself was already running away 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:20.280 with the NL West. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:25.200 Yeah, I mean This is such a They really did 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.760 not need Derek School when you think about it. They 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.360 have guys coming back from injuries. Well, Tani, at some 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.520 point we'll probably pitch again. You have like Snell Tyler Glass. Now, 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:35.960 I mean they've got guys. Like to say that they've 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.640 got guys, They've got guys. They already have Yamamoto in 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:44.760 the rotation. Shehan's still there. I yeah, No, this is 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:46.480 just like the cherry on the top at this point, 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.280 but it's a very big cherry on the top because 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.000 this is the best pitcher in baseball. 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:51.080 You can make the case. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:55.600 He's supposed to make his first start I think on 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:59.120 Tuesday against the Cubs and Wrigley, so that'll be interesting. 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:01.960 But yeah, when you look at the package, though, it's 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.320 a little underwhelming in my opinion, like the actual package itself. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.440 Now it needs to be noted this is for Trek Schooble, 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.240 who is a rental. So there's the factor of, hey, 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.680 School is the best pitcher in baseball, but you're also 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:18.880 trading for a rental. So you know, La wasn't gonna 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.440 give up much in Detroit despite asking for so much. 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.840 Had to meet somewhere in the middle I feel like 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:25.720 you look at this package, and a lot of teams 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.280 could have matched this. In fact, I think a lot 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.120 of teams could have even given a better package. But 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.360 I think the big difference between the Dodgers and the 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.720 other teams is that, unfortunately, and this is the part 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.960 of a bigger scale thing where we'll talk about the 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.920 lockout and all this stuff, the Dodgers are probably the 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:41.520 only team out of the ones that were in contention 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:43.920 to get Schooble that could probably re sign him if 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.800 they wanted to after the season, right to a big contract. 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.880 The Rays were never gonna resign him, The Brewers were 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.600 never gonna resign and I'm assuming the Brewers were gonna 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.040 have to give up like Ajesus made and the Rays 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:56.480 we're gonna have to give up like a Theo Gillen 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.840 who's their top prospect. So it's not worth it for 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:00.760 those teams to give up those I obviously they could 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.200 have in the long run and potentially even lock up 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.640 to a more affordable deal, you know, in terms of 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.920 an extension for a guy like Derek Scouogle, who will 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.160 be there for half a season and who knows if 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:12.800 he blows out his arm, in the second start. He 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.160 already had some injury scares early on in the season, 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.320 or actually not a scary, he had a legit injury. 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:21.240 They kept them out for quite a bit, so you know, 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.200 it's it's a difference. It's a tough situation. I would 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:25.680 of love to see him on the rais but hey, 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:27.360 the Rays went out and got Freddy Peralta. I know 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.920 he struggled this season, but maybe the change of senior 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.880 could help him. And well, the Brewers still need a pitcher, 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.280 so we'll see what happens there. But at the end 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.080 of the day, like you look at this like it 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.760 definitely like just give the World Series trophy. But the 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.040 Blue Jays took the Dodgers to seven games and extra 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.440 innings of the World Series, So it makes me think 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.360 that maybe, just maybe the Dodgers won't win it all 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.600 and you know they're gonna go for a three repeat, 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:52.440 and rightfully so they At the end of the day, 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.240 you can talk about the money spending, you could talk 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.240 about all that, but the Dodgers develop, and that's one 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:02.200 of the things too. They aren't buying these prospects. I 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.840 can promise you that they're they're drafting them like everyone else. 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.560 They're going into the international market like everyone else, and 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:09.879 they just have a better development system and a lot 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.959 of their team, although is bought by free agency, they 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.280 do have guys that they have developed themselves. Pa Has 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:18.600 they had to go Vargus who they ended up trading. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.000 You know, you have Will Smith, who I believe they 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.480 they got themselves. It's like they are guys that you know, 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.200 are on that team that they developed, and part of 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.600 that package was those type of players. So they're just 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:31.720 gonna dish them out for a guy like School who's 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:35.240 really good. So unfortunately this isn't very good for the 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.600 lockout because now probably this is a big example as 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:41.600 to why big market teams continue to run the markets 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.040 like they have. But it's a big trade and the 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:45.160 Dodgers got a lot better. 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.200 M Yeah, well there's just a few more minutes pressing 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.800 through some of the trades that ever made. So Freddy Peralta, 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.760 another rental starting pitcher, get moved by the Mets for 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:54.879