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Speaker 1: From the RAMS studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. It is November second. I'm Miles Simmons.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by my buddy DeMarco far The Rams are

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Speaker 1: five and two and they are now coming off of

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Speaker 1: a bye week. We got a lot to get to today. DeMarco,

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Speaker 1: why don't you change your seat? Why are you taller

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Speaker 1: than me? What are you talking about? Are you trying

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Speaker 1: to be taller than me? Well, you're derailing the show. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: I usually can see the top of your head. I'm sorry, anyway,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, that's fine. I have new glasses on too.

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Speaker 1: I do like the glass. The glasses okay, Well, people

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Speaker 1: who are watching this on the Rams dot com or

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Speaker 1: the app, you can see the clear specs I'm wanting. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's anyway. We got a lot to

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Speaker 1: get to, I mean, from the strip to London. We

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Speaker 1: got some not quite mid season mid season awards that

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Speaker 1: I want to get to trades in the NFC West

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Speaker 1: even more as we preview the Giants game. But we

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Speaker 1: will go back to what happened a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Now with the Rams in London thirty three zero victory

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Speaker 1: over the Cardinals. How about getting the first shoutout since

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. Oh wow, it's been that long. It's been

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Speaker 1: consecutive shutouts. Fifty two to nothing, yes, yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: six twenty four to nothing against Washington the following week. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: it was a great win for the Rams in Arizona

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Speaker 1: UM number one. We talked a lot about Adrian Peterson Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, against Arizona in London. Excuse me, I'm still

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Speaker 1: getting acclimated to the Pacific time zone. It's weird. Oh no.

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Speaker 1: But we talked a lot about how the offense, the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals offense was going to change with Adrian Peterson, and

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Speaker 1: the defense was gonna have to stand up, and they

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Speaker 1: absolutely did, in particular Michael Brockers, who's really really enjoying

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Speaker 1: his life outside of a nose tackle role where he's

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Speaker 1: getting double teamed a lot. Now he's single blocked. He's

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Speaker 1: able to make a lot of plays and really should

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Speaker 1: start to garner some Pro Bowl consideration with the way

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Speaker 1: he's playing. I thought he really controlled the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: the field and keeping Jared goff on it. Recipe for

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Speaker 1: a win for the Rams, absolutely, And I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: brought up Michael Brocker's because I think he has played outstanding,

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Speaker 1: especially since they moved him over to that five technique role.

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Speaker 1: When you're talking about Adrian Peterson, I mean that's still

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Speaker 1: a guy who had one hundred and thirty four rushing

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Speaker 1: yards the week prior against the Buccaneers, and then it

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Speaker 1: come into this game and I think he breaks off

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Speaker 1: a couple runs that were maybe like five six seven

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Speaker 1: then it was just nothing. There was just no room

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Speaker 1: at the end. And I think that's a credit to

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Speaker 1: Brocker's especially. I was like smacking people around that said,

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Speaker 1: oh look, I told you he was over the hill

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Speaker 1: and he had nothing left. I was watching showing them tape.

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Speaker 1: You're taking away from what the Rams have done on

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Speaker 1: defense and what they did on defense. Look, do you

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Speaker 1: see a hole? Do you see any sort of daylight

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Speaker 1: for Adrian Peterson? I mean he's having to bounce off

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Speaker 1: or two yards. I mean, they had a great day

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Speaker 1: against the run and then getting after the passer finally

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Speaker 1: knocking Carson Palmer out of the game again. Finally, finally

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Speaker 1: you knew it was it was inevitable. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: it was inevitable with the Rams and Carson Palm and

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Speaker 1: eventually he's gonna go out. You know, it's funny, Matt

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Speaker 1: and I were just talking about this by our producer

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Speaker 1: seems like every single time the Rams play Carson Palmer

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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals, he gets knocked out of the game.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know his trainer um down in Hermosa Beach.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna send him nothing but Rams gifts until the

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Speaker 1: end of time. I mean, seriously, like a Mark Baron Jersey. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know who got him this time. I mean

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Speaker 1: like a quarterback sneak, just a bunch yeah, Ogle Tree

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Speaker 1: got him this time, a fifty two one, not just

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Speaker 1: endless supplies of RAM stuff. Yeah, he's had nothing but

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Speaker 1: rough days. But you know, up until that point, Carson

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Speaker 1: Palmer was actually looking pretty good moving the football down

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Speaker 1: So look, that's what you're supposed to do when you

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Speaker 1: And it actually just came out today that they're putting

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Speaker 1: is right. He didn't play the game, just say he's

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Speaker 1: it's a shame that you know, you have a s

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Speaker 1: part of it was to me, at least, it seemed

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Speaker 1: At some point he did start throwing and then the

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Speaker 1: shoulder store has just never went away, reportedly, and they

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Speaker 1: hoped he was who was the quarterback that the Rams face.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember that, Scott Tolzine. So you're not going

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Speaker 1: to sell many Techans that in any with Scott Tolzine

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Speaker 1: mid season. Well right when they've got half the money, yes,

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Speaker 1: he can't play. Yeah, right, well, Jacobe Brissead, I mean,

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Speaker 1: doesn't look bad at all. We'll talk about sort of

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Speaker 1: the quarterback situation there not there, but with the Patriots

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Speaker 1: in that trade. Yeah, we're going to talk about that

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Speaker 1: because I think that's really but shorthanded football teams, this

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Speaker 1: is what you're supposed to do to them. There's one

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Speaker 1: coaching point that I learned as a pro is and

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Speaker 1: I learned this from Dick Vermeil, and it was great.

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Speaker 1: This is before we became a championship football team. But

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Speaker 1: he outlined what it takes to be a playoff football team.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that jumped out is what good

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Speaker 1: teams do is they keep losing teams losing, Yes, keep

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Speaker 1: bad teams playing like they're bad team. So when you're

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Speaker 1: the offensive video. There's eighty one plays on there. That

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Speaker 1: eighty one play. Imagine what it was like for Carlos Dansby,

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Speaker 1: eighty one plays and half that, more than half that

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's how you want a diagram

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Speaker 1: a college butt whooping it is. Yeah, that's that's how

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Speaker 1: you do it in London. Absolutely, and weird things tend

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Speaker 1: asking him in Jacksonville the day before the team left

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Speaker 1: what it is when you guys get together and talk

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Speaker 1: to the coach. Well, it's it's media availability. Okay, there's

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Speaker 1: something else, you guys. I don't even want to say

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Speaker 1: it because it's bad. I don't know Okay, the scrum.

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Speaker 1: So just making small talk with the coach and I said, hey,

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Speaker 1: beat you right this time, he says, it's a business trip.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to see sites. We're going to win

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Speaker 1: and that's exactly what they did. So we talked about this, Man,

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Speaker 1: an eleven day road trip you actually improve. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: great coaching, That's that's great preparation. Yeah, and I was

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Speaker 1: never been over there before, but you don't allow a

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Speaker 1: you know, so many time zones away eight hours ahead

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Speaker 1: for ten days. Man, that's something that's something everybody that

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Speaker 1: One of our favorite guys in the world, Kenny Brett,

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Speaker 1: popped off and says he hates London games. Well did

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Speaker 1: when you see a performance like that, when you walk

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Speaker 1: to see a lot more London games, guys. Teams can't

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Speaker 1: going to Adam Didoe as the private quarterback instructor who

425
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 1: has done good work with other quarterbacks in this league.

426
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Speaker 1: And I think the way he dedicated himself, plus the

427
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 1: way Sean McVeigh came in brought Matt Lafleur and Greg

428
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,879
Speaker 1: Olson with him as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach, he's

429
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,439
Speaker 1: been able to grow a lot. I agree. He's always

430
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,199
Speaker 1: been a good driver. To me, he just has a

431
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 1: faster car. Now, Okay, that's the way I see it. So,

432
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 1: I mean the ability was always there, you just didn't

433
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 1: see it right last season it was buried behind usually

434
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 1: his own guys. Yeah, going backwards, but now it's a

435
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 1: little bit different. There's there's more than enough wrinkles going

436
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,239
Speaker 1: at the defense to where you just can't key on it,

437
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: keyan on him. So I'll by extension, I see where

438
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: you're going with that. But just as far as guys

439
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 1: that are different from a year ago, the plays they're making,

440
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,159
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to look past number ninety. And

441
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you that I think Michael Brockers

442
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 1: has always been a very good player, Yeah, but it's

443
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 1: it's in the way that we can now really see

444
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: it true, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, Because like

445
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: you were saying before, he's always been taking up the

446
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,439
Speaker 1: double team. So Aaron Donald could make the plays at

447
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 1: least since I've been here since Donald team, right, and

448
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 1: which is the same time I got here, right. Um,

449
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: But when you look at Brockers, he's always kind of

450
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: had this ability to make plays when he was in

451
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 1: one on one situations, and he wasn't in them that often,

452
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 1: but he was sometimes and you could see it if

453
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 1: now you're seeing. If you were a prime three technique,

454
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: then Donald wouldn't be here. So in a four three,

455
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 1: somebody's got to play the nose. Well, this is a

456
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 1: three four. It's equal opportunity. Get it. You have the

457
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 1: ability to make plays and they're going to put you

458
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 1: in position to make plays, and he is maximized it

459
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 1: absolutely all right, So who do you have? Oh wait,

460
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,640
Speaker 1: before we get to that, actually want to shout out

461
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,479
Speaker 1: to Tyler Higbee and Farall Coup. Yeah, okay, as kick

462
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: return and punt returner, and the two guys who've also

463
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: improved a lot. I like those hoble mentions those pum So,

464
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: who do you have as the Ram's biggest addition, most

465
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 1: important addition through the first seven games for your mid

466
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 1: season not quite mid season mid season Awards. Andrew Whitworth. Yeah,

467
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: that's the easiest pick. It kind of is. Yeah, um,

468
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: I told you, like, I would love to watch Rams

469
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 1: football games with d Dalton just to see how like, Wow,

470
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 1: that's that's your left tackle out there. That's that's your guy,

471
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 1: that's keeping people off Jared guy. Right, remember how that felt? Yeah? Yeah,

472
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: I mean, but just his presence on the football team,

473
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 1: on the field. It speaks for itself. M how many

474
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 1: pressures maybe like a handful of pressures and maybe two

475
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: sacks and one of those sacks wasn't his fault. I

476
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: mean he's just been. He's everything you thought he would

477
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: be as a player. But his presence off the field

478
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: is immeasurable. Yes, Yeah, the way he carries himself and

479
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: the way that the players look up to him, it's

480
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 1: just imasing. And it's not just the players, you know. Yeah.

481
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh was talking about this on Wednesday afternoon, about

482
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Speaker 1: Whitworth's presence and how he can go to him sometimes

483
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Speaker 1: for advice because Whitworth has been in this league for

484
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: so long and it's not that Whitworth is preaching or whatever.

485
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 1: It's that Whitworth will sometimes just kind of make a

486
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: suggestion and kind of put it in your mind. And

487
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: mcday was saying that sometimes later on you go when

488
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: you implement that suggestion and you think, Wow, what a

489
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: great thing it is to have Andrew Whitworth on this

490
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: team to just be able to go to that. He

491
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: actually compared it to having Wade Phillips on the staff

492
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 1: as well, because has that kind of knowledge and things

493
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: you can just implement. He can go Belichick and Greg

494
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: Popovich on you in a heartbeat, in a fun sort

495
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: of way. Yeah. Just when you come to him with

496
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: a question, make sure it's good. Uh huh. Yeah, make

497
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: sure like you're not wasting that guy's time. Yeah, he'll

498
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: jump with you, but he'll know like, Okay, this is stupid.

499
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm moving on right. No, it's funny. As I was

500
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: talking to Jamon Brown on Wednesday two and he was

501
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: I was asking him about Jared Goff, but he was

502
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: saying that one thing that he's noticed with Goff is

503
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: that he's really been a sponge and that you have

504
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: guys like Whitworth, like Sullivan who have come in and

505
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: he's trying to learn everything that he can from those

506
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: guys because there's such pros and they're such a veteran.

507
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: But you know, I was talking to Isaac Bruce on

508
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: the bench at Jacksonville, and a week later, Tory Holt

509
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: was in the house in London, so we were talking

510
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: about the very same things. And we were talking about

511
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Speaker 1: Player X and why Player X is not developing as

512
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: fast as most people thought, and then we go back

513
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: to who's he hanging around? And then you wonder why

514
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: is he hanging around with him? Right? Yeah, where's that guy, Ben?

515
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: Where's he going to lead you? Well, if you want

516
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: to be good or great in this league, talk to

517
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: somebody who already is. They can help you, not the opposite. Um.

518
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: All those other guys can do is bring you down.

519
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: All guys like Andrew Whitworth can do is bring you

520
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: to your potential and beyond. I agree with that, and

521
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: I think that's why he has been such a huge

522
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: addition for for this football club. You know, it was

523
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: funny reading some stuff about the Giants throughout throughout this week.

524
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: I read something that was basically lamenting the fact that

525
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: they did not go after Andrew Whitworth because of all

526
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Speaker 1: the struggles that Eric Flowers is having. Yeah, and it's

527
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: and it's interesting because it's something that Rams fans know

528
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: very well. What he used to be the left tackle

529
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: in La Slash St. Valdemort. We can't say his name though,

530
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: Oh I'm just Greg Robinson. We're talking about Greg Robinson.

531
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: You are the one who you're not patting them down. No,

532
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But you are the one who

533
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: is usually like, oh, well do I sound like that? No?

534
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 1: Not really I've got the headphones on and it's not

535
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: what it sounds like. Okay, thank you very much. That's

536
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 1: just his interpretation. That's my I have a feeling everyone

537
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: sounds like that to him, like Charlie Brown adults Okay, anyway,

538
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes they do. I saw a T shirt I

539
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: was gonna buy for you what it says, I drink

540
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: and I know things perfect for it's perfect for me. Um. Yeah,

541
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: but I think um Andrew Whitworth, just his presence and

542
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: everything that it's something that other teams can end if

543
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: they don't have that leftap. I've seen. I've been out there,

544
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: and I know the frustration of going up against somebody

545
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: like him, a guy that you just can't beat, and

546
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: you see guys start to back off and give ground. Yeah,

547
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 1: before the snap. It's just I know I'm not getting there,

548
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: and that just gives the offense that much more confidence.

549
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 1: It certainly does. Are two honorable men for this, like

550
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: we had, oh good one Matt Longacre. Gotta throw him

551
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: out there, Okay, but he's not an addition, that's not

552
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: the category. Well, what do you think improved? Technically? He

553
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: should have nominated him for his honorable mention from he's

554
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: he's the category. Thought he was a four three defensive end.

555
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 1: This guy has transitioned into an outside linebacker and he

556
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: also leads this team in sacks. He does. Yeah that

557
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: that that also has Aaron Donald and Robert Quinn on

558
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: the same football team. But when you look, long acres

559
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: up at the top, so I don't care what category

560
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: it is, I'm saying his name Matt Longacre. There, I agree,

561
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: Matt long Acre is also most Improved, Biggest Edition, Biggest Surprise. Okay, yaka,

562
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: how about that surprise? Yeah, you know you created a

563
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: created the category in the mid season, not so mid

564
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: season Miles Awards anyway. Um, but I wanted to shout

565
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: out Robert Woods and USC guys who came in his

566
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: free agency. Yeah, they I think have been playing outstanding.

567
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: Just edged out uh Whitworth just edged out Robert Woods

568
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: for Biggest Edition. Yes, yeah, I think he has been phenomenal.

569
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: I love his demeanor on the field and I love

570
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: his ability on the field. He is hungry. He wants

571
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: the football, but he wants to win two. He's got

572
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: that that receiver I want to say diva attitude, but

573
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: he wants the football. He always thinks he's open. I

574
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: love that about him. But when the ball is not

575
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: going to him or it's a run play, he's playing

576
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: just as hard and I respect that. Yeah, I do too.

577
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: All Right. So who was a name that you think

578
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: will make a splash in the back and the night

579
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: of the season, a splash in the back nine? Yeah,

580
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins. Yep, Yeah, that was my I was my

581
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: first has two Yeah, has too. I'm you know, it's maddening.

582
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: There was a play in London, so you have to

583
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: remind myself where we were against Arizona, where he's going

584
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: to run a corner route into the end zone and

585
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: he set up Patrick Peterson perfect for that route. I mean,

586
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: you're talking about one of the best cover corners in

587
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: the game and he was lost. That speaks to the

588
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: talent of Sammy Watkins. The problem is golf and Sammy

589
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: weren't on the same page. Yeah, when he's doing the

590
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: setup move, Jared's letting go so the ball actually lands

591
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: in the end zone, but receiver in football was so

592
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 1: far away that they had to let go of an

593
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: illegal contact on Patrick Peterson because it's considered uncatchable. Yeah,

594
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: but if you run the right route and it's timed up,

595
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: it's probably a touchdown. It's just weird. I mean, those

596
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: are the things that are gonna, in my opinion, determined

597
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: if you're going to be a playoff team or not.

598
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: You need those touchdowns, especially against the Murderers Row you're

599
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: gonna face the next nine weeks. You're gonna need those sevens.

600
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: It's true. Yeah, that's got to happen. Yeah, So I

601
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be definitely big over this back nine,

602
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: but also Gerald Everett on the offensive side. Yeah, because

603
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: we haven't really quite seen him go off in a

604
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: game yet, and I do expect that we'll see that

605
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: at some point over the course of the rest of

606
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: the season. You can't guarantee anything in football, but as

607
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: close to as close to a guarantee as you can get,

608
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: I would say he's gonna really rip it up against

609
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: some of these teams. I wouldn't say they're purposely sitting

610
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: on him, but they're some stuff left in this offense

611
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: that we haven't seen yet. There's some matchups they're gonna

612
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: take advantage of down the road that we just haven't

613
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: seen yet. Yeah. Um, the games have been in the

614
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: Rams favor. You didn't have to go too deep into

615
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: the playbook to win some of these games. But we

616
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: know down the stretch versus other good offenses, you're gonna

617
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: start to see those those plays. Yeah, and I bet

618
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: he's going to be wrapped up in the offense big time.

619
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: I think so too. All right, so that those are

620
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: not quite mid season mid season the Lords. Yep, But

621
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: wasn't that fun Matt Longacre? Didn't you like going over

622
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: all the things we've seen? No, just because of the

623
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: name anyway, all right, but there were a lot of

624
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: trades that happened sort of while we've been away, over

625
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: this bye week into the trading deadline. And it's funny

626
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: because this season I think has seen more trades. And

627
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't know this for sure. God, you said that,

628
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing. Yeah, it's there have been

629
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: a lot of trades, I mean, from from the draft

630
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: into the off season program, training camp. The Rams even

631
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: made one bringing in Sammy Watkins. And now you to

632
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: the trade deadline and two big trades happen in the

633
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: NFC West. One the Seahawks get Dwayne Brown, which is

634
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: I mean, a good pickup for them because they need

635
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: that on their offense. A massive Pip. That's huge, That's

636
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, it's a significant trade, but it's

637
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: one that I think people sort of saw coming because

638
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: it was kind of telegraphed on Sunday before the Texans

639
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: started playing the Seahawks. I remember seeing that, right. But

640
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: then you have this other trade that really stunned me,

641
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: and that's Jimmy Garoppolo going from New England to San

642
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: Francisco for a second round pick. Why stunned because I

643
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: thought they were in the Cousins sweepstakes. Well, I think

644
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: it's that part of it, and I think it's that

645
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: New England then they're shocking I saw out of both

646
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: spots had me not thinking that something like that would

647
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: happen for either team. You know, from San Francisco part

648
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: of it, it's the Kirk Cousins thing, and everybody was saying,

649
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Kirk Cousins to San Francisco after this

650
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: season because Washington is not going to pay him on

651
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: the franchise tag, and that you have all this and

652
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: he knows Kirk Cousins from this time in Washington and

653
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: then from the New England side of it, though, you

654
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: had Adam Schefter on television, you know, really like emphatically

655
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: proclaiming New England is not trading Jimmy Garoppolo. Now granted

656
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: that was before, right, right, But I just the way

657
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: it's been set up and the way Bill Belichick is,

658
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is forty. Yeah, like, and I know there

659
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: was this good article on ESPN the magazine about the

660
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: TB twelve method and everything like that. And Tom Brady

661
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: is still obviously playing at a very high level. But

662
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: there are only two things in this life that are

663
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: undefeated in one of them as father Time. What's the

664
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: other one? Oh? Okay, yeah, which would it be just kiddy? No?

665
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: But look, the only team in the league that could

666
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: actually go at it with one quarterback would probably be

667
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: New England. Oh I have to now, Brian signed back,

668
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: which you're going at it with one quarterback would be

669
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: in New England. And yeah, he's forty, but doesn't play

670
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: like he's forty. So no, no, he does. And you

671
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: know we all laughed at it. I think after his

672
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: last Super Bowl win he said he wanted to play

673
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: until he was forty five. We thought he was kidding.

674
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: I think he's serious, and I think Belichick and Brady

675
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: will go out at the same time. So, and just

676
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: reading Belichick's quotes about the move trading Jimmy Garoppolo, he said,

677
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: we rode this thing out as long as we could,

678
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: which means they had every intention on trading him. Yeah,

679
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: just when they could get the best deal possible, they

680
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: would make that move. So I guess San Francisco gave

681
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: them exactly what they wanted. San Francisco is going to

682
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: be different the next time you see them. Yeah, they're

683
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: going to be better. And we talked about how talented

684
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: that team is. The only thing holding him back was

685
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback position. So by New Year's Day that team

686
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: could be ready to contend for next year. Right, So

687
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: I think Garoppolo has that talent. I think he's light

688
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: years better than what they had starting quarterback. So look,

689
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna build. So that move is scary in the future.

690
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: The move that's scary right now is Dwayne Brown in Seattle.

691
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: You think, oh my god, Look, Russell Wilson is the

692
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: toughest quarterback to bring down, yes, without question, in the

693
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: National Football League. Now that Aaron Rodgers is out, he

694
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: is the toughest quarterback two sack in the National Football League.

695
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: So now you give him the best left tackle and

696
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: are one of the best left tackles in the game.

697
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: That's like adding five seconds per passway. Wow, five seconds

698
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: is a lot. Well, you're shutting down one size. Sure,

699
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: so now he only has to dodge three guys when

700
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: four can't get them. But yeah, I mean that's gonna

701
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: change them. That's gonna make them better in the run game.

702
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: He's an above average run blocker and way above average

703
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: pass protective, So that's going to make them a lot better.

704
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: And it seems like Seattle has caught fire as of late. Yeah, yeah,

705
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: so Seattle is starting to round back into Seattle form.

706
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh and this is what they do pretty much every year,

707
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: you know. I mean you get to November and that's

708
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: when they really start turning it on and championship football

709
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: team it is. You know, you've got to figure some

710
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: things out throughout the first four or five weeks of

711
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: the season, because that's just the way this league is

712
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: right now. But once you get to a certain point,

713
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: you don't want to play Seattle man because they're good. Yeah,

714
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean, every team's gonna build, but I mean, Seattle

715
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: has a proven track record of knowing how to win

716
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: when it gets cold outside, yes, yeah, and then you

717
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: add that Dwayne Brown to that offense. That changes a

718
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: lot of what you can do to them and what

719
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: they can do to you know. Yeah, it's that's a

720
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: big move. Yeah, no, no question. But I just think that.

721
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: But the Jimmy Garoppolo thing stunned me a little bit

722
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: more than that, just because everybody knows that that Seattle

723
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: needed something on their offensive line in order to improve

724
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: that team. They've needed that for a few years, right, So,

725
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: but you also know that the Niners are going to

726
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: address the quarterback position, but you don't expect to have

727
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: it to happen in the middle of the season. Yeah,

728
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: that's I think what mostly stunned me. Well, I mean, look,

729
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo in New England is one thing. We don't

730
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: know what he's going to be like in San Francisco

731
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: definitely not. Yeah, I remember talking about Matt Flynn as

732
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: the next guy, and then true in Seattle turned out

733
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: to be a guy. So we'll see. But this, if

734
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: we give credit for Andrew Whitworth for turning this team around,

735
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: you just put one of the best left tackles on

736
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: an already built football team with a pro Bowl quarterback,

737
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl winning quarterback. That that's a huge deal. Yeah. Yeah.

738
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: One thing we do know about Jimmy Garoppolo and San

739
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: Francisco that that's a good looking dude. I'm telling you, man,

740
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: I don't I have no qualms about saying you want

741
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: you want to jump out on this change subject. My

742
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: favorite tweet of this past week was, I see the

743
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: NFL trade deadline is going as the NBA trade deadline

744
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: for Halloween. I like it. Yeah, that's true, that's true.

745
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: That's good. It almost made me forget what he just said.

746
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: If you can't appreciate it almost made me forget if

747
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: you can't appreciate that, I don't know what you're looking at.

748
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: Marcel Darius credit to Jacksonville, right, Um, yes, yes he was. Yes,

749
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: So an already loaded defensive line got another one. Yeah

750
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: damn that scary. Yeah, Jacksonville is not going away. It's

751
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: a good thing you already played. Jacksonville sare Yeah. That

752
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: defense is good. Yeah man, it's very good. Yeah. They

753
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: remind me of those two week defenses. Um, where they

754
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: beat you up on game day and you're still sore

755
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: the next week, so they beat you twice. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

756
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Credit to the Rams because they were

757
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: able to still score, get ahead and stay ahead, right

758
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: you know, against that team. And then you know, but

759
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: if you're if you're two weak defense and you play them,

760
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 1: you gotta get on the plane, you know, eight hours

761
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: go to London and you still perform like that. That

762
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: that that speaks to the Ram you got. Thank you,

763
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: Farrell Cooper, thank you Corey Littleton. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's

764
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: for sure. One thing though about the trading deadline, that

765
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: just another thing that kind of blew my mind is

766
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: the Cleveland trade that did not happen. Have you right

767
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: about this? Man? Oh? Man? I was trying to avoid it. Man,

768
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: you know what I was trying to avoid. I'll say, heck,

769
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. As as a Cleveland native, you see

770
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: all these things that come out about the Browns and whatnot,

771
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: and it just makes me sad because I know how

772
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: much the city cares for that team because I was

773
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: born there there. I'm not break, but I just know.

774
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: I just and then when you see that and you

775
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: just think, man, you know because that was a proud,

776
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: storied franchise up before nineteen ninety six when it went

777
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: to Baltimore, which is now still a proud franchise and

778
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: its proud stable franchise. And I just think for you

779
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: to want to trade a two out of three for

780
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: a J. Mccaron and you don't even get that done

781
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: for because for some reason you forgot how trades were apparently.

782
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: It's just man, it's just it's just really sad. Oh

783
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: s fos Factory of Sadness. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah,

784
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: see a Sunday that was the end of that video.

785
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: Oh that's just terrible. It is. I feel I feel bad,

786
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: Um and the other shocker, And I think Cam Newton

787
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: said it best. Um. Some things about this league. You'll

788
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: just never understand. Why would you trade Kelvin Benjamin. I

789
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: don't know, why would you trade your best weapon? You're

790
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: just because you're like, are you mad at Cam Newton?

791
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: You must be. I guess, like, I don't get it.

792
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: What did they get back for him? I can't remember

793
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: off the top of my head, but it wasn't that much.

794
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: Not enough? Yeah, yeah, A third rounder and a seventh rounder, right,

795
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: which you got picks and you're still playing this season,

796
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: right yeah, And you're still in the thick of it

797
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: in this season especially because you have a former MVP

798
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: as your quarterback. Yes, so I don't know. That's a

799
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: head scratch. We must be all missing something here. Yeah.

800
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: I scratched my head so hard I touched my brain.

801
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: That one just doesn't make sense. Scratched your head so

802
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: hard you touched. Why would you trade Kelvin Benjamin? I

803
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: don't know. I wouldn't have. That's like trading like Todd

804
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: Gurley right now kind of picks right what? Yeah? Okay,

805
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: they do know Sean McDermott, because you know, I don't care.

806
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: He's your father. What are you doing? I don't know,

807
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: Good lord, seeing of Sean mcdermotts, Wow, that does that

808
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: guy not look like Flee from the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

809
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: I didn't put that together until right now. I'll have

810
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: to look again. Does he look like Flee? I think

811
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: he really looks like you know, I couldn't even tell

812
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: you what he looks like. Okay, look or Fleet? I

813
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: know what Fleet looks like. Okay, look look up Sean

814
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: McDermott and tell us if you'd be the judge. Okay,

815
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: all right, but um, when we're done with what we're

816
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: about to talk about, so funny, can I help Flee

817
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: story please. When the Red Hot Chili Peppers played the

818
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: concert right before the Seattle game last year. Yeah, okay,

819
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: so I softly walking off the field and it's one

820
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: of those famous moments where I know Flee Fleet doesn't

821
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: know me. Yeah. So I'm like, Flee, what's that Fleet?

822
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 1: And He's like, who are you? I'm like, oh, doesn't

823
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: know me. Just a weird moment. Anyway. Now, I would

824
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: argue that he does look like Flee. I would also

825
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: are that he kind of looks like Michael Bradley. Michael

826
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: Bradley really, yes, okay, okay, like Flee's current form, or

827
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: like a younger version of Fleet, probably younger, younger, a

828
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: little younger. Okay, he just have you ever seen those

829
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: two guys in the same room. I don't know, I

830
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: don't know. Great question, a Fleeking coach man and play bass. Wow.

831
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: So the Rams did not make any trades at the deadline,

832
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: but they could have Lance Dunbar back. Yeah. Then later

833
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,959
Speaker 1: he started practicing on Monday, so that three week clock

834
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: has now started. That either take him off pup, put

835
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: him on the active roster, or they will put him on. Yeah,

836
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: seems more likely than not. To me that they will

837
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: put him on the active roster eventually. I'm glad you

838
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: brought that up. Um, you need to crack what you

839
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: thought this team was about and move into more of

840
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: what the NFL is right now, How do you put

841
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: Dunbar up? Who do you have to put down? It

842
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you can catch passes, if you can

843
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: advance the football, there's a role for you in the

844
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: off for sure. They can find a way to get

845
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: you on the field and to score points or get

846
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: first downs with you. So and it won't be out

847
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: of hurt feelings if you're sat down for this week,

848
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: because next week it could be you, yep, and the

849
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: week after it could be the next guy. So I

850
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: think it's it's about the personality of your head coach

851
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: and how he does things. But once Dunbar became healthy

852
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: and becomes an active player, I guarantee it he'll be

853
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, it's funny he brought that up this

854
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: week when we're talking with him about how Sean mcvayh

855
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: can just integrate different pieces and different parts into this

856
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: offense no matter what you know. So it's not like

857
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: you know where I think somebody asked him. Do you

858
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: have you have you seen plays where you see yourself

859
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: in this offense things like well, yes and no, because

860
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: even if I don't, I know that McVeigh can come

861
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: up with something for right. And I think because of

862
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: the type of player lance Dunbar is where he can

863
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: run it out of the backfield effectively. And he also

864
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: is a really good pass catcher out of the back. Yes,

865
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: that verything. That's why he's here. Yes, it is, and

866
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: that's something that I think once he gets on the

867
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: active roster, Sean McVay can definitely take advantage and it

868
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: opens up the offense. I mean, look, it's not just

869
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin that can take a jet sweep. Robert Woods

870
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: can do it. It's not just Todd Gurley who can

871
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: take a rush attempt from the dot. You've seen Tavon

872
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: do that. And the thing Tavon makes a great point

873
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: or illustrates a great point, he's kind of switched roles.

874
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: He's been very productive in that role. But the thing

875
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: that's impressed me the most is his blocking. Yes, and

876
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 1: he's the smallest receiver you have. You know, I'm really

877
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: glad you brought this up because that eighteen yard touchdown

878
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen without exactly right, And it was funny

879
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: because I don't. I sort of think I have started

880
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: to watch football a little bit differently than most people

881
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: in that this is a credit to you, but you

882
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: sort of try to look at how the play might

883
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: develop as opposed to just the ball. Right. But I remember,

884
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sitting there and I'm cold because we're outside.

885
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: But you start looking at the play, and DeMarco is

886
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: looking at Matt right now because I mentioned that I'm cold,

887
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: and they're just sharing a look of just distaste. For me.

888
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 1: I think it's great, go ahead anyway. But I'm sitting

889
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: there and I see this place start to develop because

890
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: Tavon had come off the jet sweep fake and he

891
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: basically basically I saw the block that should happen before

892
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: it started to happen, and I was like, man, if

893
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: Tavon gets this block, boom, it's there. And he did

894
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: it got him off his feet. Yes, I mean not

895
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: just a visual deterrent like some receivers. I just getting

896
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: the way and the running back makes the play, but

897
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: he actually got the guy on the ground. He did

898
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: gave him the lane for the touchdown and it was

899
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson and Peterson is trying to get back up

900
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: and by that time Todd Gurley's all the way past.

901
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: As great play, Yeah it was a great play. But yeah,

902
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: that's I think illustrates the point more of Okay, Tavon's

903
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: doing that. What can Lance Dunbar add to you? We'll

904
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: see you know. Look, I think what he adds is

905
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: just another matchup problem for the defense when you think, look,

906
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: look there's first and second, third down. You think first

907
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: and second or rundowns. Well, that's not the case anymore,

908
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: especially when you have versatile guys. So just the same

909
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: with Tavon Austin when you're looking at him on the

910
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: other side as a defender and you're saying, what is

911
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: he right now? Is he a receiver or running back?

912
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: How are we going to cover him? Well, Dunbar provides

913
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: the same sort of problem, but he's a bigger he's

914
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: a bigger version of that. He's a running back too,

915
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: So you're going to have problems trying to cover him

916
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: or keep guys on him out of the backfield right now.

917
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: So when will we see Dunbar? That is still a

918
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: bit unclear, he said, himself this week that you know,

919
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He knows it's probably not in his best

920
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: interest to be out there before he's really really ready.

921
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: Now he's been running for the last few weeks and

922
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: he says he feels healthy. So yeah, see how he

923
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: responds to this week of practice. Mcvayh and Lesnied will

924
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: likely sit down toward the end of the week and

925
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: figure out what that roster spot, if that's going to

926
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: be something this week, next week, whatever. But it's encouraging

927
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 1: that he is back on the field now. The injuries

928
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: are different. But I would just room with LaMarcus Joyner

929
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: whatever he's doing. Do that because coming back that fast

930
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: from a hamstring and playing, well, wow, that's amazing. Rusty

931
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: Mail sandwiches, yeah something. Miles doesn't know anything about it.

932
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't know anything. He's never eating the Rusty Mail

933
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: sandwiches life, and I don't think I ever will. All Right,

934
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: So New York Giants, Yes, they're one in six right now,

935
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: but what they've earned you about, they've earned it. They

936
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: have absolutely earned that one in six. Yeah yeah, including

937
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 1: the one uh yeah, they've earned it. Um look prideful

938
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: football team shorthanded their best weapon is on the bench

939
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: and street close Odell Beckham Junior, so it is the

940
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: second best two depending on who you talk to. Marshall Marshall,

941
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they're they're beat up, they're injured. A

942
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: lot of teams go through it. I mean they still

943
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: have Eli Manning, who some consider elite. He's got two rings.

944
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: Can't spell elite without Eli. I think that puts you

945
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: in a different category when you win Super Bowls, but

946
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: it does shorthanded on both sides of the football, and

947
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: it seems like they're imploding there, having a lot of

948
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: issues they are that are getting out. I mean, you

949
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: just can't hide in New York. So the last thing

950
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: you want to do with them is give them any

951
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: sort of daylight, right and allow them to hang around

952
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: in a football game. Just remind them that they're one

953
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: and six, remind them early that they're that you're better

954
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: and they're not a good football team, and they will

955
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: go away quietly. But if you let them hang around

956
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: like Denver did, they could jump up and beat you. Well.

957
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: Denver's other problem, right there was at quarterback in that game,

958
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: and that's why they have since replaced Trevor Simeon. Obviously, you.

959
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: Simeon got a couple more games after that. But that's

960
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: part of the reason why New York won that game

961
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: was because Trevor Simeon allowed them to stay in the game. See,

962
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: we've been doing this a long time. He knew exactly

963
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: what I was saying, without even saying it. I did.

964
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: That's why I said it. Yeah, I didn't even congratulate

965
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: you guys on over a year of between the Horns.

966
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: It's been over a year. It's been over a year.

967
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: The key card still works. How about that. I know

968
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: they haven't thrown us off yet, Matt. They probably didn't

969
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: realize that it's been over a year. So now you

970
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: probably just got as canceled. Wow, well, let's high five

971
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: for something else today. All right, Yeah, but that's what

972
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean. I mean, what I meant was Jerry Goff

973
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: in the offense in particular, stay on the field, make

974
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: sure you're scoring points, sevens versus threes. The threes will

975
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: County keep the pressure on ELI and that offense, and eventually, look,

976
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: by sheer numbers, they're gonna fold. That's what That's what happens.

977
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: That's what has happened in six of their losses. And

978
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: you bring up a great point. The numbers bear that out.

979
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: We're talking about this on Keys to Victory earlier. If

980
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 1: you look at how the defense has played, they play

981
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: a lot of snaps. Sixty nine snaps. It's a nice

982
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: amount there when you have that many snaps in a

983
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: ball game for the defense, and in order to have

984
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: that happen, I mean, you're getting the defense tired, right,

985
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: So I think it's the second most snaps in the

986
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: league at sixty nine. And then you also have the

987
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: sixty two points allowed in the fourth quarter, right they

988
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: fold towards the Yeah, and so again you have to

989
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: be able to you have to be able to take

990
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 1: advantage of that sixty nine plays per game and one

991
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: of the most complicated schemes I've ever been around. Maybe

992
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: it's not so nice in Steve Spagnolo's defense. It is

993
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: so complicated. Yeah, I mean there's a lot going on.

994
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot of moving parts to that defense. Where

995
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: are you smiling? I'm sorry because I'm I'm a thirteen

996
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 1: year old and now he was really trying to get

997
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: through it. But yeah, never mind, what did I just miss?

998
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep going anyway. If you got it, you

999
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: got it. So eventually, like I said, with that defense,

1000
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna find dead spots and holes. Right. They are

1001
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: dependent on getting off the field through takeaways. And when

1002
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: I found out or heard or read that Genora's Jenkins

1003
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: was going to be suspended for this game, you want

1004
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: to talk about a big grin. Yeah, if you can

1005
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: get land In Collins to also be suspended, then I'd

1006
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: be really really happy. But at least one of their

1007
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: best playmakers is off the field. It's true they do

1008
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: have still some talented guys. Do Apple can play Ohio

1009
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 1: State guy? But then Landon Collins though, I think that

1010
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: that's the biggest guy. He can wreck your Sunday right

1011
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: because he did that when the Rams played the Giants

1012
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: in London last year. You know, he had that pick

1013
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: six that went off or receiver's hands and I can't

1014
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: remember the receiver off the top of my head. Well

1015
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: we forgot about him. Yeah. Anyway, he's aggressive, but not

1016
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: over aggressive. On the run. He seems to get there

1017
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: right as the ball carriers crossing the line of scrimmage,

1018
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: so there's not a lot of space for that guy

1019
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: to deal with him. So any running back that's had

1020
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: to take him on has had to take him on

1021
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: in a physical sort of way. You're not gonna shake him.

1022
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: He's either gonna make you bounce or make you turn

1023
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: the ball back to his help. He is just that good.

1024
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: But I think there might be some some ways to

1025
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: take advantage of that aggressiveness through play action. But that

1026
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: only starts with running the ball right and running the

1027
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: ball effectively early, and the Rams have done that pretty well.

1028
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean, in four of the last five games, I

1029
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: believe Todd Grilly has been over one hundred yards rushing.

1030
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: So that definitely helps you when it comes to you, okay,

1031
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: running the ball and establishing that run. Plus, I'll say

1032
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: this too, Malcolm Brown nearly had fifty yards rushing against

1033
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, had a lot of those big third down

1034
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: pickups in that long, sixteen play eighty yard drive. That's

1035
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: how it's supposed to be. You have a back like

1036
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown that can come in and clean up a

1037
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: game and finish that game to allow Todd just to

1038
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 1: sit and you know, watch and rest and get ready

1039
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: for next week or going to the bye week. Starts

1040
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: your bye week before the game even ended. Yeah, I mean,

1041
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the mark of a butt whipping on

1042
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: game day and a pretty good football because do Girly

1043
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: had a full day too? Yes? Seven weeks yes, yes, yes, yeah,

1044
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: take some time off, relax, Let Malcolm finish it up.

1045
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: That's like to point out the fact that you were

1046
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: saying this right now after you did say before in

1047
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: a previous episode of Between the Horns when I asked you,

1048
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: are you concerned about Todd Girly. I'm still not concerned.

1049
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: The game was out of hand. You had it. Take

1050
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: him out, Let Malcolm run. Yeah, I'm not saying he's tired.

1051
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: Just give the guy a break. Start your bye week early.

1052
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 1: That's fair. Two young guys on the Giants offense um though,

1053
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: that I think are going to be important to key

1054
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: in on Sterling Shepherd us their wide receiver. He looks

1055
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: like he's going to be able to come back from

1056
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: that ankle injury after missing the last few games. Saw

1057
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: just what I was watching tape right before we started,

1058
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: a seventy six year old reception. He's good and he

1059
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 1: caught it, I believe at twenty five and outran everybody

1060
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: to the end zone. I remember watching him at the

1061
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. It must have been last year, so twenty

1062
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: sixteen when he was a rookie, and he I thought

1063
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: was one of the better wide receivers that was that

1064
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: at that event. So he's definitely somebody to watch. Credible,

1065
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: credible guy. Um look there, their offensive line is huge,

1066
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: the biggest line you've faced so far this year and

1067
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: probably all year. I call it a sixteen hundred pounder.

1068
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: They're they're they're all over three twenty. They're huge, They're monstrous.

1069
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: Their wide bodies they put the giant in New York Giants.

1070
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: They're huge, but they are I mean, and they're pretty

1071
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: good pass protectors as well. I mean, it's Fluker DJ Fluker,

1072
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: who used to be in San Diego or the LA

1073
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: Chargers now is now at right guard, and he's a

1074
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: mile wide. He's as wide as he is tall. So

1075
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: if you get into a game where you have to

1076
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: face that sixty or seventy times and they're running the ball,

1077
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna wear down. It's inevitable. They're huge, but if

1078
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: you force them into a situation where they have to

1079
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: pass protect more than they'd like, you're gonna get to him.

1080
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: It's inevitable. That's that's just a function of how big

1081
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 1: they are. Right. The other weapon that I think can

1082
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: really help them is tight end Evan Ingram. Oh he's

1083
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: a problem. Yes, he's definitely a problem. A few of

1084
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: those games that I was watching, it looks like they're

1085
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: doing a lot of shallow cross stuff with him, and

1086
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: that's something that they'll probably continue to do against the

1087
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: Rams because the Rams play a lot of man coverage. Yeah,

1088
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, I know that Wade Phillips respects him, and

1089
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: I know that Sean McVay, the Rams head coach, appreciates

1090
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: that ability. You know, he loves tight ends. Well, when

1091
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: you talk about modern tight ends, this guy would come

1092
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: to mind. Absolutely. Yeah, he is. He's a problem in line,

1093
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: off the line, on the move. There was a player

1094
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 1: where they motioned him into the backfield as a fullback

1095
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: and he shot through everybody and scored a touchdown from

1096
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: eighteen years out. So he's a problem for let's say

1097
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: Mark Barron, who might be on him, alec Ogletree who's

1098
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: going to be on him, or any safety they line

1099
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: up in obvious passing situations and Eli Manning is feeding

1100
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: him the football, right, He's the only guy it seems

1101
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: like he trusts in that passing game, and for good reason.

1102
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Ingram right now has over thirty catches, I

1103
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,959
Speaker 1: think three hundred forty some yards, three touchdowns, So it's

1104
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: not like Ingram has been ineffective. And when they do

1105
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: they line him up in line and like you were saying,

1106
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: they split him out by two and that poses really

1107
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: big matchup issues. And that's something that they might look

1108
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: to in this game. Oh no, no doubt. I mean, look,

1109
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: if you look at the weakness or quote unquote weakness

1110
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: of any three four defense or anybody's defense, it's that

1111
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: guy that tight end that athlete versus your linebackers. Yes,

1112
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: in regular personnel, can those guys who are basically run stoppers,

1113
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: can they convert to you know, pass defenders and cover

1114
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: that guy. So for the most part, only Seattle's had

1115
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: an answer. I think he had four targets and no catches,

1116
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: But everyone else he's made pay. Yes, that's true. Couple

1117
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: things before we get out of here. Bye week malaise.

1118
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: You start start off the game after bye weeks slowly.

1119
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: A lot of that happens to teams. How do you

1120
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: combat that? How did you combat that? Depends on your

1121
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: coach man. First off, look, you just can't open the

1122
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: doors and allow guys to leave right when it's the

1123
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: bye week. You have to give them some sort of

1124
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: exit meeting or focus the brain. Hey, look, take a vacation,

1125
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: get away from it for a little while, but don't

1126
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: get too far away from it. We still have X, Y,

1127
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: and Z left to play, and these are our goals.

1128
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: We've hit this goal, we've hit that goal. We still

1129
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: have this, this, this that's still out there. So make

1130
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: sure you send them out with the right message and

1131
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: then be struct when they come back. I want you

1132
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 1: guys back here. I want you guys back on time.

1133
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: I want you guys doing this, this and this, and

1134
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna weigh in. We're gonna do this, we're gonna

1135
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: do Just put these unreal expectations guys coming back through

1136
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 1: the door, just to make sure when they get away

1137
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: from it that they're not completely switching off from football,

1138
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: right and so, but you think that the Rams will

1139
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: be able to do that against this Giant's team will

1140
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: be a head coach, Yes, absolutely. The guy doesn't sleep, yes, right,

1141
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: And I think that comes from uh, just knowing the

1142
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: way those guys talked about practice on Wednesday, that that

1143
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: things were so sharp that they might have had the

1144
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: best Dave practice that they had on Wednesday. I think

1145
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: Goff said that. Roger Staffold said that. Jamon Brown said

1146
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: that when I was talking to them in the locker room,

1147
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: So I thought that was really interesting. Please come out

1148
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: to practice after a bye week, dragging ass. Please do

1149
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: that with Sean McVay and Wade Phillips. Yeah, please please,

1150
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: and let make sure we're out there for practice. Yeah,

1151
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun. So how much did you enjoy

1152
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: London as we do some self indulgent topics. I'm fun.

1153
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: The Abbey Studios was was just I was jealous. I

1154
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: wish I was able to go to I didn't even

1155
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: know it was on my bucket list. Yeah, but yeah,

1156
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm i I've replaced something on my bucket list with that.

1157
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: That was amazing to record in the same studio that

1158
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: the Beatles recorded, Yeah, most of their songs in all

1159
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: these artists, all these famous people that have come through

1160
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: that one place, and we're standing in the exact same

1161
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: area trying to sing one of their songs. Yeah, with

1162
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: a real, live, professional vocal coach who was not just

1163
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: there to have fun. She was teaching us how to

1164
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: sing this s Yeah, it was strict who was the

1165
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: worst singer in there? Was it? You? Um, it was

1166
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: a like a choir thing so you really couldn't hear.

1167
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: But Tory Holt, I'm not saying he can't sing, no, no,

1168
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean he can sing. But he got into it,

1169
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: like he was really, really, really really getting into it,

1170
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: Like Tory Man like, come on back, bro, you know

1171
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: you don't have to act. You're not on stage, you know,

1172
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: you're just singing and recording. Yeah, no one's watching us.

1173
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: Just relax. But yeah, I mean he really got into it.

1174
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: But that that was really really special. How about the

1175
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: Bear Boy and Banker pub too, I mean just that

1176
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: event that was really really cool. The RAMS rally, yes,

1177
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: that they had in the pub and you guys were

1178
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: on ESPN LA for a while. Yeah. A lot of

1179
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: Rams fans, a lot of football fans from around the world. Yes, yeah,

1180
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean we talked to someone from the Channel Islands.

1181
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: You were there, weren't you for there? Yeah, And it

1182
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: never really occurred to me. They would love to get

1183
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: to more football games. It's just America's so far away.

1184
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: It's a long flight, but London is closer for them,

1185
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: so they don't miss London games. Yeah, and it doesn't

1186
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: matter who's playing, they're going to show up and be

1187
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: there with their RAMS gear on. So just seeing all

1188
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: the fans from different parts of the world that are

1189
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: so excited about football right period and wanting to learn

1190
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: more about football was just awesome. Yeah. I had a

1191
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: lot of good conversations at that event. I mean saw

1192
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: people from la that we know and that we've been

1193
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: around before, but people from the UK obviously it's there,

1194
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: but people from Germany too. I was talking to one

1195
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: guy from Germany. Believe his name is Louise. Shout out

1196
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: to you if you're listening, Louise, but hello Louise. Yeah. Yeah,

1197
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: And we were talking for like fifteen twenty minutes just

1198
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: about all and it was really really cool. Nice shout

1199
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: out to all you guys who were able to make

1200
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: it out to the pub. I have to make a

1201
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: stunny of admission when she when she said she's from

1202
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: the Channel Islands, I acted like I knew where that

1203
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: was and then immediately went to my phone. You know

1204
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: where the Channel Islands are? No, But I did the

1205
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: same thing and not tell us all where the Channel

1206
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: Islands are. Give me a sec set them on the spot, right,

1207
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: but you know what Okay, I don't know, and what

1208
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: school did you go to that? I did take any

1209
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: geography um classes at Columbia as I vamp a little

1210
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: bit to get Matt some time to look this up

1211
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: as where this is on? The Channel Islands are an

1212
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: archipelago in the English Channel off the French coast of Normandy.

1213
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: I had no idea where that was. I just kind

1214
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: of nodded, yeah, really yeah, yeah, I left my shoe there.

1215
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm a little um, but what are you looking forward

1216
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: to this week in New York? I'm looking forward to it? Wow? Um,

1217
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: out of the rams, right or just the city? No,

1218
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean just the city. We're being self indulgent right now.

1219
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: Oh um, well, gosh, I wanted to do some sight see.

1220
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of that we're going to

1221
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: be able to do it well in light of recent

1222
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: current events. Yeah it's sure. Yeah, I'm not sure how

1223
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: much of that we're gonna be able to do. Um.

1224
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: So that kind of put a damper on all the

1225
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: sight seeing sort of stuff. So you know, if it's

1226
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: just you know, fly to New York and do football,

1227
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,919
Speaker 1: that will be just enough for me. So on game day.

1228
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the offense to be twice as dominant

1229
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: um the defense to be equally as dominant as they

1230
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: as they were against the Arizona Cardinals. So you're gonna

1231
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: need it. I know it sounds funny when you're talking

1232
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: about a one in six football team, but this is

1233
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: the NFL. They get paid too, and if you sleepwalk

1234
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: or ease into a street fight, they are good enough

1235
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: to beat you or at least take you to the

1236
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: wire and make you really work for it. So you

1237
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: need the Rams to be at their best to be

1238
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: to one in six New York. I agree with that,

1239
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: especially because New York is also coming off of their

1240
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: bye week, so they've had a couple of weeks to

1241
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: setting the Rams too, and they're gonna be fired up

1242
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be trying to come out and really

1243
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: win this game because doubt Look, they this is a

1244
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: prideful football team. It's a team that does know Sean

1245
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: McVay pretty well. Because Sean McVay was in the division.

1246
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: You know that means Sean mcvayh knows them also. But

1247
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: I think this is going to be really competitive matchup

1248
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: because there's there's when you're talking about a team in

1249
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: the National Football League and it's still November. It's not

1250
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: like their season is totally over. No, there's still a

1251
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: lot to play for. There's still a lot of pride.

1252
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: And you'll look. Winning is the greatest deodorant of all time.

1253
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, it covers up a lot of stink.

1254
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you what those guys need in New

1255
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: York right now is a victory yep, over anybody. So

1256
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: and they're looking for it. They need a lot of

1257
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: help to get one. So let's hope the Rams don't

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Speaker 1: provide that help. Absolutely well, any parting shots to DeMarco.

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Speaker 1: Let's see Channel Islands. Where do we get through? Jimmy Garoppolo,

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Speaker 1: you're a fan, which with a bee? Um? We got

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Speaker 1: there a lot today? The the mid season, not so

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Speaker 1: mid season, longer Between the Horn, lot to talk about

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Speaker 1: the Rams haven't beat the Giants since two thousand and one. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: shocking heading five and oh, I believe is the record

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Speaker 1: against the lamp. Let's change that. Let's change all right,

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Speaker 1: it's been a year man, absolutely all right. Guys, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for tuning into this edition of Between the

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Speaker 1: Horns for sure to catch the game on Fox. This

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Speaker 1: uh Sunday. Gosh, I try to change back for London

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Speaker 1: for a while. Now that's just you. Let's try this again. Well, everybody,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for listening to this initiation of between

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Speaker 1: the Horns. For Matt god Leady, No, I can't even

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Speaker 1: close the show. Take a time out, out, take a

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Speaker 1: time out this sideline. The show is over all right.

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Speaker 1: The game block on Fox on Sunday. From my producer,

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Speaker 1: Matt for DeMarco Farr. I'm Miles Simmons. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: next week.