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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks Steph, Good morning, Cam. We're doing good. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't let you get out of here without a couple

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Speaker 2: I understand you're always there, well not always, but I

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Speaker 2: try to do that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: I got a question for you about kickers and young

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Speaker 1: kickers in particular, because looking at you know, every week

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Speaker 1: we prepare for games, and I put together a chart,

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Speaker 1: go through the biographies of players, and it seems like

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Speaker 1: with regularity, kickers who are veterans and established and often

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Speaker 1: very reliable have overcome, you know, some struggles earlier in

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Speaker 1: their careers, very few exceptions to that. They may not

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Speaker 1: even find their footing until their second or third team.

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Speaker 1: And I think of young way Koup is a great

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Speaker 1: example right now in the great kickers in the league

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Speaker 1: who was cut.

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Speaker 2: After four games.

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Speaker 1: When you guys look at like the early struggles of

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Speaker 1: kickers like that kind of what Chad's going through right now.

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Speaker 1: Is there any common denominator, any thread, you know, each

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Speaker 1: has his own story. But I was just curious about

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Speaker 1: that young kickers coming.

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Speaker 2: Into the NFL. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, if you go back and you look

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Speaker 3: at young kickers historically, the percentages usually aren't very good.

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Speaker 3: Very rarely do you have young kickers that come in

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Speaker 3: or kick and call it eighty plus percent. They're usually

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Speaker 3: guys that have been cut, then released and then get

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Speaker 3: picked up like you say, three or four years later.

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Speaker 3: I think the thing you look at is on the

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Speaker 3: then also looking at the type of missus like is

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Speaker 3: the next kick they come back. They don't harp on

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Speaker 3: biggest thing to figure out with guys is what is

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Speaker 3: their mental capacity to handle stuff? Because you know, you're

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Speaker 3: not gonna make every single kick, but is that gonna

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Speaker 3: try to find mental toughness in kickers, for guys that

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Speaker 3: can either handle elements or you know, handle and respond

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Speaker 2: What have you seen from Chad in that regard?

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Speaker 1: I mean his last two missus have been you know,

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Speaker 1: just you know, over over the upright, but just off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you know that's one thing. Chad does have

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Speaker 3: he did did some adversity early in his college career

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Speaker 3: he definitely has that makeup, the mental toughness you know,

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Speaker 3: you know why right, why left, But there were still misses.

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Speaker 3: So you know, we just got to make sure we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it goes without saying, you know, because those

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Speaker 3: know it allows them to you know, pick Chad up

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Speaker 2: Let's treat you like a game. He does a great

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Speaker 3: He does a great job with both, you know, Chad

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Speaker 3: you know, just giving guidance and telling those guys, say,

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Speaker 3: just that type of leadership and you know, being that

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Speaker 3: positive support though for those guys has been just tremendous

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Speaker 1: All Right, Chad, Chad, Cam, thank you very much, really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Sorry to hold you up to Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: No, thanks, Bob. Next question, nickle Melli pick Cam.

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Speaker 4: I have a question about the conditions at MetLife on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: We saw early on the first half, you guys had

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Speaker 4: the ball, I think thirty five is shit would have

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Speaker 4: it about the conditions on Sunday that made it that

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Speaker 4: both teams ended up passing on the was usually pretty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, whether it's the elements, the

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Speaker 2: And then just you know, situational football.

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Speaker 3: you know, a timpt a long field goal.

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Speaker 2: So I think there's a couple of things. But obviously

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Speaker 2: it was a colder day.

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Speaker 3: I think that's one thing you're going to see moving

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Speaker 3: ball is not going to travel near as far as

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Speaker 3: Now you know, this is where you have strong leg

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Speaker 2: Because as it gets.

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Speaker 3: Cold, that ball in that air, you know, even though

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Speaker 3: air as much just because of the humidity up there

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Speaker 2: So you'll start seeing the ball.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: As far as field goals, they won't be as full

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Speaker 3: as probably you know, you'll see maybe more punts inside

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Speaker 2: For sure, you're still there.

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Speaker 4: So with guys like Chad and Bryce were coming in

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Speaker 4: advertised pretty big legs, this is sort of more advantageous

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Speaker 4: to have guys like that, even though they're still growing

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Speaker 4: in this position. Having the more sort of live leg

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, you know, when you when you have that live leg,

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Speaker 3: I guess there's gonna be some some growing pains and

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Speaker 3: distance field goals potentially, or you know, flipping the field

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Speaker 3: from a punting standpoint, you know, maximizing that field position

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Speaker 3: because you're able to actually cut through the cold air.

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Speaker 2: And the wind, so you know, it definitely gives them

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Speaker 2: an advantage in that aspect of having strong legs for sure. Awesome,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Nan,