1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Say you're right here for our final news roundup and 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: information overload. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: Breaking news. Now, here's Sean Hennity. All right, we have 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: breaking news. 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 3: Tyler Robinson, the accused in the assassination of Charlie Kirk 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 3: is now he's in jail. He's having a virtual hearing. 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: Let's go to it live. 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 4: Colling case two five one four zero three five seven six, 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 4: State of Utah versus Tyler James Robinson. Could you state 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 4: your name, Tyler James Robinson. Thank you for being here, 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 4: mister Robinson. I'm Judge Graff. Mister Scorts, good after in 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 4: your honor. 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 5: You're probably already aware of my presence or why I'm here, 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 5: but if not, I am not entering appearance. I'm not 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 5: counsel in this case. I'm working with the county to 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 5: get counsel assigned, but we need you to. 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 6: Allow for the appointment of counsel. Thank you, mister Scottis 18 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 6: it is well. 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 4: I want to go through the qualification abso for individc 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 4: but that is my intent. Mister scourtis very well, and 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 4: I thank you for being here. So, mister Robinson, you 22 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: have a right to an attorney if you cannot afford one. 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 4: The court can appoint in attorning to represent you. I 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 4: have reviewed your declaration of financial status and find that 25 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 4: you are indigent. I'm provisually provisionally appointing a rule A 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 4: qualified attorney. 27 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 6: To represent you on your case, mister Robinson. 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: Along with their filing of their appearance of counsel, the 29 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: assigned attorneys must file declarations with the court that outline 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: their qualifications under Rule eight in Rule eight C, I'm 31 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: sorry under Rule eight B and Rule eight C or 32 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 4: council appointment in a case where death may be a 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 4: sentencing option. I'm worrying that those declarations be filed prior 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 4: to the next hearing, which is set for September. 35 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 6: Twenty ninth at ten am, mister Robinson. 36 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: I also wish to inform you of your rights against 37 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 4: self incrimination. Anything that you say in court today could 38 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: be used against you, and we want to protect your 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: constitutional rights, mister Robinson. At this time, you will remain 40 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 4: in custody without bail. Mister Gortis, is there any other 41 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 4: points that you wish to address? No, thank you very 42 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 4: much for turning to the state. 43 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 7: Yes, your honor, Chad Grunander for the States. I'm also 44 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 7: joined and they're listed as attendees. Ryan McBride, Lauren Hunt, 45 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 7: David Sturgell, and Chris Ballard. We are the trial team 46 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 7: on this case. I do have a few points I'd 47 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 7: like to bring up with your honor. We have filed 48 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 7: a pre trial protective order on behalf of Erica Kirk. 49 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 7: We would ask the court to review that. It should 50 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 7: be in your queue, your honor, and sign that. 51 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 6: Thank you. 52 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: I have reviewed the pre trial protective order and will 53 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: be granted issuing this pre trial protective order in. 54 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 6: Favor of Erica Kirk. 55 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: Is there any other business that we need to address today, counsel, Just. 56 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 6: For the court's information. 57 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 7: We did file just recently, within the last few minutes, 58 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 7: a notice of intent to seek the death penalty that 59 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 7: was filed by UTAH on the attorney Jeff Gray, so 60 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 7: that should be in the court's file. Lastly, I would 61 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 7: just indicate to the court and at this point mister Robinson, 62 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 7: that we are prepared to collect all of the discovery 63 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 7: in this matter and get that turned over to the 64 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 7: defense as soon as possible. Rule sixteen requires us to 65 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 7: provide what we have relied on in charging the information 66 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 7: and bringing these charges within five days once it's requested, 67 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 7: so that'll be prepared to disseminate to the defense as 68 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 7: soon as possible. 69 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 6: Thank you, mister Grander. Mister Robinson. 70 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: What I also want to do is you have the 71 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 4: right to have the charges read that you stand charged of, 72 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 4: and I wish to read those to you at this time. 73 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 4: Thank you, mister Robinson. For count one aggravated murder, a 74 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: capital felony and violation of Utah Code annotated seventy six 75 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 4: Dash five Dash two two in that on September tenth, 76 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, in Utah County, the defendant, Tyler James Robinson, 77 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: intentionally or knowingly caused the death of Charlie Kirk under 78 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 4: the following circumstances. The defendant knowingly created a great risk 79 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 4: of death to another individual than Charlie Kirk, and the 80 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 4: defendant notice conviction of this offense may carry the death 81 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 4: penalty were pursued to Utah Code seventy six three Dash 82 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 4: two oh seven point seven mandatory term of imprisonment for 83 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 4: life without parole, or an indeterminate term of not less 84 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 4: than twenty five years that may be for life. Victim 85 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 4: targeting enhancement and violation of Utah Code annotated seventy six 86 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 4: Dash three Dash two oh three point one four sub two. 87 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 4: Tyler James Robinson intentionally selected Charlie Kirk because of Tyler 88 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: James Robinson's belief or perception regarding Charlie Kirk's political expression. 89 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 6: Notice. 90 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: If the trier of fact finds beyond a reasonable doubt 91 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: that the victim targeting enhancement applies, the sentencing judge or 92 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: the Board of Pardons and Parole shall consider the defendant 93 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: selection of the victim as an aggreg debating factor. Offense 94 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 4: committed in the presence of a child aggravating factor, The 95 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: sentencing judge or the Board of Pardons in parolesha consider 96 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 4: as an aggravating factor in their deliberations. That the defendant 97 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: committed a violent criminal offense in the presence of a child. 98 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 4: Count two felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily 99 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 4: injury a first degree felony in violation of Utah Code 100 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 4: annotated seventy six Dash eleven Dash two to one zero 101 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: sub two and three c In that on September tenth, 102 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, in Utah County, the defendant, Tyler James 103 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 4: Robinson discharged the firearm in the direction of Charlie Kirk, 104 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: knowing or having reason to believe that Charlie Kirk may 105 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 4: be endangered by the discharge of the firearm, and that 106 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: the act caused serious bodily injury to Charlie Kirk. Victim 107 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 4: targeting enhancement in violation of UTAH Code annotated seventy six 108 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: Dash three Dash two zero three point one four sub two. 109 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 4: Tyler James Robinson intentionally selected Charlie Kirk because Tyler James 110 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: Robinson's belief for perception regarding Charlie Kirk's political expression. 111 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 6: Notice. If the Trier. 112 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: Fact finds beyond a reasonable doubt that the victim targeting 113 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: enhancement applies, the sentencing judge or the Board of Pardons 114 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 4: in Parole shall consider the defendant selection of the victim 115 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 4: as an aggravating factor. Violent offense committed in the presence 116 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: of a child aggravating factor. The sensing judge or the 117 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: Board of Pardons in parolesha consider an aggravating factor in 118 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 4: their deliberations that the defendant committed a violent offense in 119 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: the presence of a child. Count three obstruction of justice 120 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 4: a second degree felony, and violation of Utah Code annotated 121 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: seventy six to eight Dash three oh six, Sub two, 122 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 4: In that on September tenth, twenty twenty five, in Utah County, 123 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: the defendant, Tyler James Robinson, with an intent to hinder, delay, 124 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 4: or prevent the investigation, apprehension, prosecution, conviction, or pursue to 125 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: any person regarding conduct that constitutes a criminal offense, conceal 126 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 4: or remove the firearm used to shoot Charlie Kirk, and 127 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: the conduct that constitutes an offense would be a capital 128 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: felony or a first degree felony. Count four obstruction of 129 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: justice a second degree felony, and violation of Utah Code 130 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 4: seventy six eight Dash three h six, Sub two. In 131 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 4: that honor, about September eleventh, twenty twenty five, in Utah County, 132 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: the defendant, Tyler James Robinson, with an intent to hinder, delay, 133 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: or prevent the investigation, apprehension, prosecution, conviction, or punishment of 134 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: any person regarding conduct conduct that constitutes a criminal offense, destroyed, concealed, 135 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 4: or removed the clothing he wore during the shooting, and 136 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 4: the conduct that constitutes an offense would be a capital 137 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: felony or first degree felony. Count five Tampering with a 138 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: witness a third degree felony in violation of Utah Code, 139 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 4: annotated seventy six Dash eight Dash five oh weight. In 140 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 4: that honor, about September tenth, twenty twenty five, in Utah County, 141 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 4: the defendant, Tyler James Robinson, believe that an official preceding 142 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 4: or investigation was pending. We're about to be instituted, or 143 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 4: intended to prevent an official preceding or investigation, and attempted 144 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,479 Speaker 4: to induce or otherwise cause his roommate to withhold testimony, information, 145 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 4: a document, or an item to it, directing his roommate 146 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: to delete incriminating text messages. Count six Tampering with a witness, 147 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: a third degree felony in violation of Utah Code, annotated 148 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: seventy six Dash eight Dash five oh eight. In that honor, 149 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: about September eleventh, twenty twenty five, in Utah County, the defendant, 150 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 4: Tyler James Robinson, believe that an official preceding or investigation 151 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 4: was pending. We're about to instituted, were intended to prevent 152 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 4: an official proceeding or investigation, and attempted to induce or 153 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: otherwise cause his roommate to withhold testimony or information, to 154 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: wit directing his roommate to stay silent if the police 155 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 4: questioned the roommate. 156 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 6: Count seven violent offense committed in the. 157 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: Presence of a child A Class A misdemeanor in violation 158 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 4: of Utah Code annotated seventy six Dash three Dash two 159 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 4: zero three point one zero sub two. In seventy six 160 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: Dash three Dash two of three point one four sub 161 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 4: three to eight little double Eye. In that honor about 162 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 4: September tenth, twenty twenty five, in Utah County, the defendant, 163 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: Tyler James Robinson, committed criminal homicide in the physical presence 164 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: of a child younger than fourteen years of age, with 165 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 4: knowledge that a child was present and that may have 166 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: been seen or heard. The commission of the criminal homicide 167 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 4: victim targeting enhancement and violation of Utah Code annotated seventy 168 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: six Nash three Dash two oh three point one four 169 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 4: sub two. Tyler James Robinson intentionally selected Charlie Kirk because 170 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 4: of Tyler James Robinson's belief for perception regarding Charlie Kirk's 171 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 4: political expression that concludes reading the information Mister Robinson. This 172 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 4: case is set or September twenty nine at ten am. 173 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 4: It will be a waiver hearing and I will be 174 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 4: the judge assigned to this case. Mister Robinson, I invite 175 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 4: you to join us at that time. Is there anything 176 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 4: further counsel? 177 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 5: Oh? 178 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I will have counsel appointed by then. Thank you, 179 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 6: sir Graner. 180 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 7: Anything further one item, just for clarification, you're honored the 181 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 7: hearing on the twenty ninth. 182 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 6: Does that in person or WebEx? Thank you? That is 183 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 6: a great question. It will be via WebEx. Okay, thank you. 184 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 7: Judge. 185 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 4: All right, I want to thank all parties for being 186 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 4: here and this concludes this hearing. 187 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 6: At this time court is in recess. 188 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: All right, all right, that is the judge in the case. 189 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: Now. 190 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 3: If you were just listening, Tyler Robinson was online, he 191 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,599 Speaker 3: was in prison, sat quiet for the reading of the 192 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: charges aggravated murder, felony, discharge of a firearm, obstruction of 193 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 3: justice for discarding the firearm, same for discarding clothing, witness 194 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: tampering for directing roommate to delete texts, witness tampering for 195 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: directing the roommate to stay silent, commission of a violent 196 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: offense with children, present. The next hearing will be on 197 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: the twenty ninth. They did declare that that Tyler Robinson 198 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: is indigent, meaning an attorney will be appointed for him anyway. 199 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 3: Joining us now we have Bret Tolman is with US, 200 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 3: former federal prosecutors, served as US attorney for Utah Brett. 201 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: Welcome BACKXAR, Thanks Sean. 202 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 8: Great to be with you. 203 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: Pretty standard fair for the most part, right. 204 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, it is. I think there's you know, just the outset. 205 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 9: It's really apparent that, you know, he had a level 206 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 9: of arrogance to him in his communications with others, especially 207 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 9: with the roommate. You know, a statement that he didn't 208 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 9: leave evidence at the scene except for the gun, which 209 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 9: he needed to take care of. Just some some really unbelievable. 210 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 9: I would say it's naive, but it's not. It's calculated, 211 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 9: and it's arrogant and somewhat ignorant to you know, the 212 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 9: devastation that he's caused. 213 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 2: Well, it is. 214 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: And the judge Tony Graff in this case, you know, 215 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: this is very standard fair. I mean laying out that 216 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: the right not to incriminate himself informed him of his rights, 217 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 3: he had the right to an attorney. They went over 218 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: the fact that and if he cannot afford one, one 219 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: will be provided for you. 220 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: The word indigent was used. 221 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: I guess they're going to claim that as he is 222 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 3: an adult, there would be no obligation for his family, 223 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: whether they can afford it or not, to provide an 224 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: attorney for him. And so the next I guess we'll 225 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: find out more on the twenty ninth that will be 226 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: done by WebEx as well, that it's not going to 227 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: be done in person. 228 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: He will stay in custody. There's no bail. 229 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: There was a protective order for Erica Kirk that was 230 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: granted by the judge in this case. The judge was 231 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: clear that this is a death penalty case and then 232 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: read the charges as he has the right to have 233 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: done so. Pretty standard fare. And by the way, for 234 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: stations along the Sean Hannity Show radio network, we're going 235 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: to continue our coverage through to the bottom of the hour. 236 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: Then we'll get calls in as well if you want 237 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: to respond eight hundred and nine to four one Seawan 238 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: if you want to be a part of the program. 239 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: But you know, I think this is a pretty cut 240 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 3: and dry case. The evidence seems overwhelming, incontrovertible, and now 241 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 3: it's a matter of how quickly justice will happen. I 242 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: think this is a good thing to see this. I'm 243 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: glad that they put it on camera. I think the 244 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: country needs to see it. I think any copycat or 245 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: potential copycats need to see it. I need I think 246 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: people need to know that there's going to be swift justice. 247 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 3: I go back to, you know, thirty three hours. It 248 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: took five days to get the Boston bombers, five days 249 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: to get Luigi Mangioni. It took seventeen years to get 250 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: Ted Kazinski. It took seven years to get Roodolph in 251 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: the Centennial bomber case. So I think good policing, good 252 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: FBI coordination, releasing the photos, being transparent about it paid 253 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: off in my view your. 254 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: Thoughts, it's absolutely right. 255 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 9: I've talked to law enforcement and FBI agents that are 256 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 9: friends of mine in Utah. They say that they haven't 257 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 9: seen it. You know, their cooperation and the effectiveness come 258 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 9: together in a case they have this case. Everyone working together, 259 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 9: is the FBI doing all the DNA evidence, and and 260 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 9: and really there's no territorialism, which is you know, phenomenal. 261 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 9: They all have a bit of a sanctity about what 262 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 9: they're doing, recognizing the you know, sobering reality of a 263 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 9: political assassination in their backyard. And they're working together, and 264 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 9: I think we'll see that. I know the prosecutors in 265 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 9: this case. They're experienced, one of whom I went to 266 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 9: law school with. He's no nonsense. He's going to be 267 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 9: very effective. They're putting their a team on it, and 268 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 9: I expect that, you know, as you indicated, there's no 269 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 9: there's no lack of evidence in it, and it seems 270 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 9: to be, you know, very tight the evidence that points 271 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 9: to Tyler Robinson. What I'm interested in, seawan is the 272 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 9: additional evidence that comes out that shows his competence. 273 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 6: There really only is an. 274 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 9: Insanity plea out there to be concerned about. But if 275 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 9: the evidence is sufficient to show, and I think think 276 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 9: it is, that he knew right from wrong, then he's 277 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 9: not going to be able to claim in competence to 278 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 9: get away with it. 279 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 2: Well. 280 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 3: I think that was clear in the text messages when 281 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: he's talking about, oh, my father is going to be pissed. 282 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: He seemed to have a very keen understanding my grandfather's 283 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 3: looking for the weapon. He seemed very lucid to me. 284 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 3: By the way, as a side note, MSDNC did not 285 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: run this appearance in court, which I think speaks volumes 286 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: about them. Anyway, we appreciate you, Brett Tolman, thank you 287 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: for joining US former federal prosecutor. He served as a 288 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: US attorney for Utah. Brett, we appreciate your time. 289 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 9: Thanks Sean. 290 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 3: Eight hundred and nine to four one sewn. Rachel is 291 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: in Louisiana apparently disagrees with me. What's up, Rachel? 292 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: How are you hey? 293 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 10: Sean? First of all, I love your show. I appreciate 294 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 10: everything you do for us. 295 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 2: Thank you. 296 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: But that's not a good way to disagree with me. 297 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 3: Doesn't sound like you're starting out well, I'm that's okay. 298 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 11: You've made a comment a several times about how kids 299 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 11: in college should basically go along to get along, to 300 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 11: get the grade they need to get out, and I understand. 301 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: Oh, I said, they have two choices if they make 302 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 3: the choice. Let's say your child wants to be a 303 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: doctor or a lawyer or go to a you know, 304 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 3: Wharton business school, right or the Ross business school very 305 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 3: hard to get into and one bad grade would likely 306 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: make the difference in your ability to get in or 307 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 3: not to play the game knowing that you're playing the game. 308 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: I'm okay with it as long as they know what 309 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 3: they're doing. Or you can choose what I did to 310 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: do in college, and that's I fought my professor. 311 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 2: It was it was half a semester. 312 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 10: I would say, do that, because where does it end. 313 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 10: I mean, we just keep going along and telling these 314 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 10: liberal college professors what they want to hear. Then they 315 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 10: see no problem with it, and they continue to do 316 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 10: it and in don indoctrinate another generation and it just 317 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 10: doesn't stop. And I think you've said this a couple 318 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 10: of times. I've taken pause, but it didn't affect me 319 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 10: like it did till recently and after Charlie died for 320 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 10: standing up for free speech and truth. I can't get 321 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 10: behind that. 322 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 3: I'm only saying if a kid is aware of what's happening, 323 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: if a kid knows he's going to be punished for 324 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: expressing a political view and it's going to get in 325 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 3: the way of his life stream it is, and he 326 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: knows he's doing it consciously, I don't have a problem 327 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: because he's seeing the broader picture of his life. Now, 328 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 3: if you can fight, I argue you fight, fight fight. 329 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, stay on the line, Rachel. 330 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: Say how to Tracy and Louisiana, who's a teacher, is 331 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: saying it's hard to push back against left wing Rhetorican school. 332 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: Would you respond to Rachel Tracy, Well. 333 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I have taught, I have taught high 334 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 12: school and I'm now teaching elementary. And it's one of 335 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 12: those things. I was in the teacher's lounge today, for instance, 336 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 12: and you have to hold your tongue like I was raised, 337 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 12: you know, and you don't if you have nothing to 338 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 12: say nice, you don't say anything at all. 339 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 13: I was raising that kind of the house, and that's 340 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 13: what it was. And so I'm sitting there in the 341 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 13: teacher's lounge today. 342 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 12: And they're talking and they're saying. 343 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 13: Oh, like we have teachers. We have so many teachers 344 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 13: nowadays that are from Pakistan, that are from Palestine, that 345 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 13: are from Egypt, they are from all over the place, Nicaragua, 346 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 13: and there are other teachers who are saying, oh, nope, 347 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 13: Trump's gonna get rid of you. Trump's getting rid of you. 348 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and it's hard because you know, Rachel, 349 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 3: the thing is is it is so competitive to get 350 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: into these elite schools and the best medical schools, the 351 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: best law schools, the best graduate schools, the best business schools. 352 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: One bad grade can make all the difference. They don't want. 353 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: They're going to look at a grade point average and 354 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 3: if you get a C minus because the professor hates 355 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 3: your political views, that your dream goes out the window. 356 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 3: And meanwhile, I don't think any professor has the right 357 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 3: to do it. And you can't stop it. You're not 358 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 3: gonna be able to single handedly stop the system. I'll 359 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 3: give you the last word. 360 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 10: Well, you can't single handily stop it. But if we 361 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 10: encourage these kids. I mean, this is a generation that 362 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 10: we have said, you are more conservative than any other 363 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,239 Speaker 10: generation in fifty years. This is the generation that is 364 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 10: rising up, especially after Charlie was murdered. And I just 365 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 10: think it's very confusing and conflicting messages to say to them, 366 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 10: on one hand, stand up for what you believe in, 367 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 10: but in this other case. 368 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 8: Just power. 369 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 3: I just would hate to see their dreams shattered by 370 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 3: one liberal professor, and they have the power to do that. 371 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 3: But you make a great point. We appreciate both of 372 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: you calling quick break right back, Maria, call straight ahead 373 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 3: eight hundred and nine to four. 374 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: One, Shawn. 375 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: Now we have Jeff Gray, who is the Utah County 376 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 3: District Attorney, announcing earlier today that in fact, in Utah 377 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 3: they will be seeking the death penalty, and he laid 378 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: out the charges, also indicating that, yeah, Charlie Kirk, as 379 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: we know, was targeted because of his politics. The evidence 380 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: seems pretty overwhelming and incontrovertible. I don't think this is 381 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: going to be a hard case. 382 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 2: Anyway. 383 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: Let's get to our busy phones. He'll be on TV 384 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: with us tonight and we'll go through the charging document 385 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: with him. Let us say hi to Howard and san 386 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 3: Clemente out in the United Socialist Utopia of Gavin Newsom 387 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: in California. 388 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 8: Hi, Hi, Sean. And that was a hell of an introduction. 389 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 8: I want to first thank you for taking my call, 390 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 8: and I wanted to talk to you about a way 391 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 8: in which I think we can honor Charlie Kirk. And 392 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 8: the bottom line is that I think we need a 393 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 8: bipartisan bill. You talked earlier about the difference between free 394 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 8: speech and hate speech, Pam BONDI talked about that today, 395 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 8: and I think we got to look at our leaders 396 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 8: who have really started the you know, the hate speech, 397 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 8: like you said ten years ago. And it's not acceptable 398 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 8: to use the term hitler and racist and communist and 399 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 8: a threat to demand awkwardsy because that just incentivizes and 400 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 8: encourages the left people that are looking in these chat rooms, okay, 401 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 8: for ways in which they can make a name for themselves. 402 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 8: And I think no different than Lincoln Riley. We had 403 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 8: honored her with a bill, and I think if we got, 404 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 8: for example, Burgess Owens from Utah and John Fetterman from 405 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 8: Pennsylvania to sponsor a bipartisan bill, I understand the difference 406 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 8: between free speech and hate speech, but we have to 407 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 8: get our leaders who have sworn a code of ethics 408 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 8: and morality, and our leaders in Washington work for us, 409 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 8: and we can't accept them without consequences, without accountability. They 410 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 8: need to take responsibility for their acts. 411 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: They're the I wish. I can't be Pollyannish, and I can't. 412 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 3: I can't be as this audience. If you're asking me 413 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: if I think the radical left is going to adapt 414 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 3: and change and have introspection and self reflection and change course, 415 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: I don't believe they will. 416 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 8: Sean, and I believe I hear what you're saying, but 417 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 8: I think if there was a bill to really delineate, okay, 418 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 8: the hate speech, like I said, racist, communist, fascist, threat 419 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 8: to democracy and if they use those terms no different 420 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 8: than in in you know, in the public domain, you 421 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 8: can't allude to a female or a male's body parts 422 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 8: in a vulgar manner because there would be choice that 423 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 8: those are choices if they made them, and consequences should 424 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 8: they do them. 425 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 3: And I think, but I hate to disagree with you. 426 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 3: I understand your intent is pure, I really do. But 427 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 3: then we have a very slippery slope, don't we. 428 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 8: What kind of slippery soap will be on next? 429 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: All right, well, you can't say this word. You can't 430 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 3: say this word. You can't say this word, you can't 431 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: say that word. The next thing they'll be telling us is, 432 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 3: you know, we can't criticize transgenderism. You know, we did 433 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: a segment. There was a New York Post article about 434 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 3: how people in Great Britain are being prosecuted because of 435 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: quote hate speech. I believe in freedom of speech as 436 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: much as I find it repulsive and offensive, because I 437 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 3: will tell you at the end of that road, I 438 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: promise you Conservatives are going to be the ones that 439 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 3: bear the brunt of this more than the left. 440 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: They will argue. 441 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: I really believe they've convinced themselves that we are fascist 442 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: and racist and a threat to democracy. You know, charge 443 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 3: they said this about Charlie. Charlie helped many minority young 444 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: people be a part of his organization. He's a misogynist. 445 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 3: Why because he believes in traditional marriage and that men 446 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 3: should open door doors for women and pay for a 447 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 3: date and and go to church. I mean, it's just insane. 448 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 3: So I just think, unfortunately, with free speech is you know, 449 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 3: like with everything in life, there's an upside and the downside. 450 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 3: And I just think if you let these people talk, 451 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: they are showing the American people where they're coming from, 452 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 3: how void of real ideas they are. I think we 453 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 3: have to win hearts and minds and win elections and 454 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: put the right people in office that and let their 455 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 3: voices dominate. This is why elections matter, you know. Pretty soon, 456 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: you know, come January of next year, I'm going to 457 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 3: come on this program and I'm going to predict to 458 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 3: you that what the Democrats are going to run on, 459 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 3: and then I'm going to urge all of you, and 460 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 3: I will repeat myself like monoclonal antibodies, and then nobody 461 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 3: three months, four months later knew what I was saying, 462 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: because by the time election day comes around, you will 463 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: know everybody that listens to this program. If you don't 464 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: listen three hours a day, I'm very angry about that. 465 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 3: But if you, you know, only get to listen, you 466 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 3: know occasionally you are going to hear me lay out 467 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: the case of what is at stake for this country, 468 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: and I'm going to repeat it. And then this way, 469 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: my hope is by the time election day comes, all 470 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: of you can repeat it to your friends, your family, 471 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 3: your neighbors, your co workers, anybody that you run into 472 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 3: in life. Because this is going to be a very, 473 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: very pivotal midterm election year. We have to defy historical 474 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 3: trends to maintain control in the House and Senate. If 475 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 3: we do not, the stakes couldn't be higher because this angry, 476 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: extreme radical left, we know. 477 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: What they're going to do. 478 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: They're going to impeach Donald Trump again and again and again, 479 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: and they will stifle and stop his agenda at every turn, 480 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: just because they hate him that much. So we're either 481 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: going to have two more great years of President Trump 482 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: guiding this nation, or we're going to have, you know, 483 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 3: two years of NonStop rage and hatred and Trump derangement syndrome. 484 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 8: Sean, I agree with ninety nine percent of what you 485 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 8: just said, but I look at it and say, you 486 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 8: know what's you have that snake there, and in order 487 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 8: to you know, stop the snake, you got to cut 488 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 8: off the head of the snake. And the head of 489 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 8: the snake is the hate speech coming from the left. 490 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 8: So what do you do to stand up to it? 491 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 8: Other than I understand. 492 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: Well, you expose it. You you you expose it. 493 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 3: You let people look anybody with a heart, a mind, 494 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 3: that can think, a conscience, a soul, here's this rhetoric, 495 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: for example, post assassination of Charlie, and they know hatred 496 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 3: and rage and madness when they hear it. The American 497 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 3: people did figure out you had the entire legacy media mob, 498 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: the weaponization of our Department of Justice and deep state operatives. 499 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 3: You had everybody in the Democratic Party they closed out 500 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 3: their arguments with as I've been saying, racist, fascist, Nazi Hitler, 501 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 3: Stalin Mussolini, and and you had that echoed by the 502 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 3: legacy media. America heard them, and America ignored them, and 503 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: Donald Trump won every swing state and he won the 504 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 3: popular vote. So look, it's still disturbing that's such a 505 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: large percentage of our fellow countrymen, you know, would vote 506 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: for Kamala Harris. As far as I'm concerned, it would 507 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 3: have been a disaster for the country. Joe was a disaster. 508 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 3: But you know what, I think legacy media died. I 509 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 3: think the Democratic Party is imploding before our very very eyes, 510 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 3: and let them implode the American people the end of 511 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 3: the day, I put my faith in them. I'm gonna 512 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 3: move on though, Howard. I appreciate your call and your thoughtfulness. 513 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. 514 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: Eight hundred and nine four one, Sean, if you want 515 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 3: to be a part of the program. Marcus in Minnesota, Hey, Mark. 516 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: Carry you you're doing it. I'm good, sir. What's going on? 517 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: So here's my take on this, and I promise there's 518 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: no no violence in this whatsoever. And I'm sitting here 519 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: over the last few days and I'm watching over you 520 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: know what going on, and what happened now reminded of 521 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: something my dad used to tell me all the time 522 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: when I was young. He'd always say, don't get angry 523 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: right now, we need a more. We need to accept 524 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: that what happened is sad and it's tragic, and we 525 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: need to warn that anger is going to take away 526 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: from the morning. And then he would say, don't get even. 527 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: And I feel like, if we sent this kid to death, 528 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: is just getting even and it's going to be too 529 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: easy for him. Death is too easy for heim. He 530 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: deserves more than that. 531 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 3: And then you know, you know, my understanding is probably 532 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 3: Erica Kirk is going to have an opportunity to weigh 533 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 3: in on that decision, and I'm not going to offer 534 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 3: give unsolicited advice. I think she should just let the 535 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 3: system play out on its own and probably stay out. 536 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: Of that well. Absolutely, And then I was just going 537 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: to finish with you know, he'd always they get ahead, 538 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: and the way to do that is Charlie was one person. 539 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: We need now to have a thousand Charlie's out there 540 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: going across the nation because they did this because they 541 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: feared him. He was taking away from their base. That's 542 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: why they did this. They did this at a fear. 543 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: And now we need more. Now we know what hurts them, 544 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: now we know what gets them, and we need. 545 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 10: We need more. 546 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: Charlie out there. We need we need hundreds of thousands 547 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: of Charlie's out there spreading his word, show them that 548 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: Christ will always triumph over evil. That's what we need 549 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: to do. 550 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 2: Just listen. 551 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 3: You know, you overcome evil with good. But it doesn't 552 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 3: mean that we're wallflowers either. And I think that identifying, 553 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 3: you know, how radicalized the left has become as a 554 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: public service. People need to understand where these people are 555 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 3: coming from. They're not coming from a very good place. 556 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: No, And I think you know, a company of college 557 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: before we're one hundred percent accurate. I think a lot 558 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: of this is it's evil. It's coming out of CNN, 559 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: it's coming out of this MSNBC. And I understand freedom 560 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: of speech, but here's what I question, and maybe you 561 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: can shed some light on this. If if I'm a 562 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: bully and I'm bullying somebody online and they take their 563 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: life as a result of that bullying, I can now 564 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: be charged with that crime. 565 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 8: How does that. 566 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: Play into freedom of the speech versus what's going on? 567 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: Because first of all, calling him hitler and and a 568 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: dictator and a king and all that, it's a joke 569 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: because if he was truly any of those they wouldn't 570 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: be on a national platform calling him Hitler a dictator. 571 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, they'd be round. 572 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 3: They're all over the place doing and I've got to 573 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 3: run because of the constraints of time. But I can 574 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 3: tell you that this is a real, clear, you know, 575 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 3: problem we have in society, and civil society needs to 576 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 3: reject it, and people of goodwill need to reject it, 577 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 3: and people need to understand. I do believe there is 578 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 3: a transition happening in the country away from the radicalism 579 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 3: of the left. I think people see it, you know, 580 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 3: from supporting the right of men to play women's sports 581 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 3: and open borders and putting the right so called rights 582 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 3: of illegals over the safety of American citizens, and being 583 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 3: against law and order and defund dismantle no bail laws, 584 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 3: reimagine the police insanity, you know, voting against the biggest 585 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 3: tax cut in history. All this is that this is 586 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 3: their legacy. Anyway, my friend, appreciate it. That's going to 587 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 3: wrap things up with today, Hannity. Tonight, we have now 588 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 3: seen the official charging of this guy Robinson in the 589 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: assassination of Charlie Kirk. Jeff Gray who laid out all 590 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: of the details, and we have the text messages between 591 00:35:54,320 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 3: Robinson and his trans I guess significant other. We'll get 592 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 3: the latest from them, information that they're laying out in detail. Also, 593 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 3: Senator Lindsey Graham, We'll check in with Charlie Kirk's longtime pastor. 594 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 3: It was on the show yesterday. It was amazing. Bob 595 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 3: McCoy play Travis tonight and much more. Just Sey YOUDVR 596 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 3: nine pm. Hannity on the Fox News Channel. We'll see 597 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 3: you tonight, back here tomorrow. Thank you for making this 598 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 3: show possible.