1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdic with center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: with you, and I hope your Thanksgiving week has been 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: incredible with your family, save travels out there. Center, We've 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: got actually a lot to talk about. Usually it's a 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: slow week during the holidays, not so much this week 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: at all. 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot going on, but I want to 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: start by just saying this week of Thanksgiving, I hope 9 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: you took a minute to just hug your family. Hug 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: your wife, Hug your husband, Hug your kids. Let your 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: kids know why you love them, what they mean to you. 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: If your mom and dad are still with you, tell 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: them my parents, you know my mom is turning just 14 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: turned ninety one, my dad is eighty six. Like the 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: moments with family these holidays are so important, love them 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: and give thanks like we have so much to give 17 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 2: thanks for. We have so much to give, thanks for 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: being Americans. For those of us who are blessed to 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: be Texans, we have even more to give thanks for. 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 2: We have thanks for our liberty. We have thanks for 21 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: we're American free enterprise. We have thanks for the Declaration 22 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: of Independence and the Constitution are fundamental liberties, and so 23 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: I hope in this time. Look, it's so easy. Life 24 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: goes so fast, it goes so crazy, you're going to 25 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: million miles an hour. Everything distracts you. I hope during 26 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: this week you take a minute to sit down and 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 2: play a game with your kids. You take a minute. 28 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: You know, my daughters have started liking to play poker. 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: I love to play poker, and just sitting down, like 30 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: playing poker, playing Monopoly, playing back them and playing chess, 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 2: playing Uno, playing charades, like like, those moments are priceless. 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: And so yes, there's a lot going on. We're going 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 2: to talk about all of that, but but I really 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: do God has blessed this nation incredibly. And if you 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: are fortunate enough to be healthy, if you are fortunate 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: enough to like you and I are men to be 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: dads like that, being a dad wanted privilege. What incredible 38 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: Like watching your kids grow up, watching your kids express strong, 39 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: passionate views. Just just take this week, this week and 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: Christmas week, or I think the two most important weeks 41 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: to just love on your kids. And so that's something 42 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: I just want to encourage you. You're listening to a podcast. 43 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: That's that's great, that that's be engaged. But don't take 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 2: the time away from your family and your kids, especially 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: this week. 46 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 3: Amen to that. 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: It couldn't agree with you more as we And by 48 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: the way, with poker, who's better? I got to ask, 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: is it you? Or are they taking your money yet? 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: I just I got to know that. 51 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: So I got to say, Caroline, my oldest daughter has 52 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: become a pretty good little poker player, and she's got 53 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: her boyfriend Bruce that they like playing poker with me. 54 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: We were this summer. We went to Lake Powell in 55 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: Nevada and Utah, and Lake Powell is gorgeous. It's basically 56 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: it's basically the Grand Canyon filled up halfway with water. 57 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: And my father in law has a house boat. He's 58 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: had a houseboat for thirty years. And you get out 59 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: in the houseboat and you tow a water ski boat, 60 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: you tow a jet ski and you just get out 61 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: there and spend a week and there's no phone, there's 62 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: no internet. It's disconnected from the world. And you know, 63 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: you get out there, you water ski, you jet ski, 64 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: you swim, you jump off the top of the house boat. 65 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: By the way, my brother in law, you want to 66 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: talk about a bad ass trick. My brother in law 67 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: has a trick where he stands at the top of 68 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: the houseboat. He holds the rope from the water ski 69 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: and his wife gets in the water ski boat and 70 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: she punches it. He jumps off the second story of 71 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: the houseboat. He lands on his rear end, he goes underwater, 72 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: goes about six or eight feet underwater, and he pops 73 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: up in barefoots. It is a crazy ass trick. 74 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: That's so cool. 75 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: And I got to say, like, like, we did that 76 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: this summer, spend a week and that's where where Caroline 77 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: and Bruce said, Hey, Dad, you really like to play poker? 78 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: Can you teach us to play? And so we sat 79 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: there a bunch of like bottle caps and used bottle 80 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: caps as chips. We didn't play for money, but we 81 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: played every night. And it was every night from like 82 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: ten pm to one in the morning. We played poker. 83 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: And that that was you know, when I was a kid, 84 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: when I was a little kid, my grandmother, when I 85 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: was six, seven, eight years old, she taught me to 86 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: play poker, and she was a She was an incredible 87 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: card player. She played bridge every week for she lived 88 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: into her eighties. She probably played seventy years worth a bridge, 89 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: but she taught me to play poker. She had a 90 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: tin of buttons and we would use the buttons as chips. 91 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: And you know, she had some like costume jewelry that 92 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: were like fake diamonds, so I would, you know, eight 93 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: years old, I'd say one million dollars and I'd throw 94 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: out like a diamond chip. And for like two years, 95 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: I won every time. She'd baby sit me when my 96 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: parents went out, and like if they wanted to have 97 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: a date night or something, that dropped me off at 98 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: at granny's house and we'd sit there and play poker. 99 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: And and after a couple of years of doing it 100 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: and I'd won over and over again, I came to her. 101 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: I said, Granny, let's play for real money. And I 102 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: had five dollars and ben. At the time, my allowance 103 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: was fifty cents a week, so five dollars was ten 104 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: weeks allowance. It was a ton of money. And she said, sure, 105 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: absolutely happy to So we sat down played poker. She 106 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: cleaned me out. 107 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: YEA, That's an important lesson in life is not winning money, 108 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: but losing money, because it keeps you in check. 109 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: I think forever. 110 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: Oh, when my parents picked me up, I was there crying, 111 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: and my Irish grandmother was laughing as she like sent 112 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: me home and said, well, Sonny, you want to play 113 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: for money, let me know next time you want to 114 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: do it. 115 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: That's such and she didn't give it back, which is 116 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: like the reason why you earned your life. 117 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I never got that five bucks back. 118 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: That's so good. I love it, so you know, for 119 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: my I got twin boys. Georgie is my game player. 120 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: He's obsessed. All Thanksgiving break, we've been playing poker. He 121 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: loves it and he grits because we have poker chips. 122 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: We don't play for money to hold him. Playing takes 123 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: hold him, yeah, and he loves it. He's six years old, 124 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: but he's really good with numbers. He loves playing blackjack 125 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: the same thing. We use chips and you know, whoever 126 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: win just has you know, the bragging rights at the table. 127 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: We all start with the same amount. But at six 128 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: years old he started whooping. My dad and my sister's 129 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: boyfriend lost to him this morning, which really made me 130 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: laugh because he's so proud of himself at six, Like 131 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: I get this game, Like this is so fun, like 132 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: you said, spending time with the fam over the holidays 133 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: playing card games. Oh no, whatever it is, do it 134 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: with your kids, because that's those are the memories you remember. 135 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: For us your life. 136 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: And by the way, I got to say, Cubans, what 137 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: we do on holidays is we played dominoes, and Cuban's 138 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: playing dominoes number one, so we don't play double six dominoes. 139 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: Double six dominoes are common in Mexico much of the Caribbean, 140 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 2: but Cubans played double nine dominoes and double nine dominoes 141 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: a lot more complicated because you got a lot more 142 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: numbers to think through. And my grandfather, oh my abuelo, 143 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: he could play dominos. In fact, we still have these 144 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: like wooden domino trays that he made in this woodshop 145 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: that we play with to this day. And he was 146 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: he was such a good domino player that after like 147 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: four rounds he could tell you what dominoes every person around. 148 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: The table had. Like it was freaking See, I don't 149 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: have that. Do you have that type of memory? I 150 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: just don't. 151 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: I have some of it, but not at the So 152 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: when it comes to poker, one of my best friends 153 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: in the world is actually an amateur professional poker player, 154 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: so he has played in multiple world series of Pokers, 155 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: and I played with him a ton, and it's interesting. 156 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: When he and I play, he gets pissed because he's very, 157 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: very good at the math. He knows the math of 158 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: every hand here or the outs, here's the percentages. I'm 159 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: okay at the math. I'm I don't have the percentages 160 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: down like it's thirty seven percent. I have. This percentage 161 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: is notionally right. I have a general I have a 162 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: pretty good scent to the math, but it's not exact. 163 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: What I play is I read the other players. So 164 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: this buddy of mine who's was a grooms in my wedding, 165 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: one of my closest friends. We'll play and we've probably 166 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: played one hundred poker games together, and my guess is 167 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: I want about half and he's won about half. And 168 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: it drives him crazy because I'll make plays and he's like, 169 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: what the hell are you doing. You can't do that. 170 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: The math didn't make sense. And I'll look at him 171 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: and say, Adam, I did it because you didn't want 172 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: me to. Because when I'm playing poker, the biggest thing 173 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: I'm doing is I'm looking in the eyes of the 174 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: other people. I'm trying to figure out what do you want? 175 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: And I'm going to do the opposite of what you want, 176 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: And so it's a Look, what's fun about poker is 177 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: you have the math and skill of it, but you 178 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: also have the people reading. And that's a blast. And 179 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,479 Speaker 2: I gotta say, I'm really proud because my daughter, Caroline, 180 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: she's good at both of that. I mean, she's still 181 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: a new poker player, but she's good at reading people. 182 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 183 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has begun the process centator of designating the 184 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization. This is something that 185 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: you've been advocating for talking about. We've talked about on 186 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: the show for quite some time. They've also been doing 187 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: this in Texas, and now we're seeing it become part 188 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: two nationwide. 189 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: Your reaction, So, look, this is massively important. President Trump 190 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: announced this week that he's going to designate the Muslim 191 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. I have literally been fighting 192 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: for this to happen for ten years. It has been 193 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: five different Congresses that I've introduced legislation directing the federal 194 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: government to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. 195 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: We came really really close in the first Trump administration. 196 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: I was pushing this. I had legislation, I was fighting 197 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: for it. And the reason we fell just short. And 198 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: the reason we fell just short is the deep state 199 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: in the State Department, they did not want to designate 200 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. And the old 201 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: version of the legislation I filed was a top down. 202 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: So what it did is it directed the State Department 203 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: and the Administration to designate the Global Muslim Brotherhood, the 204 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: umbrella organization, as a terrorist organization. And what happened was 205 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: the deep state bureaucrats they argued, well, it is not 206 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: definitively proven that every single Muslim Brotherhood affiliate across the 207 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: globe is a terrorist organization. Some of them clearly are, 208 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: but it's not proven that all of them are. And 209 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: that argument, at the end of the day, stopped Trump 210 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: one from doing this. So Trump two starts and I 211 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: leaned in again and I said, all right, we're going 212 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: to get this done, and I redrafted the legislation and 213 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: pick a totally different approach. Instead of being top down, 214 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: I went bottom up and I said, look, the State 215 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: Department is directed to designate the individual Muslim Brotherhood affiliates 216 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: that are terrorist organizations designate them as such. So, for example, 217 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 2: HAMAS is the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine. There is zero 218 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: dispute that Hamas is a terrorist organization. And so my 219 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: legislation said, designate the individual affiliates, whichever one's that there's 220 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: clear and definitive proof they're terrorist organizations, and then designate 221 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: the Global Muslim Brotherhood for material support for those terrorist organizations, 222 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: because the Global organization funds every one of their affiliates. 223 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: And so it was a fundamental shift. And at the 224 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 2: end of the day, I think it's unlikely Congress will 225 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 2: pass my legislation because to pass it, I need sixty 226 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: Democrats and I need sixty Senators. I need at least 227 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: seven Democrats, and I think it's unlikely we'll get seven Democrats. 228 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: I've got one, so the legislation and the Senators cruized Fetterman. 229 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: So John Fetterman has joined me. But to get to 230 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: seven it is not easy. But I've been fighting this 231 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: fight because I want to build the momentum for the 232 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: President to do what he did this week. But he 233 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: did this week is exactly what my legislation says, which 234 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: is he directed the State Department to designate the individual 235 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: affiliates the lower organizations that are clearly terrorist organizations. And 236 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: I'll tell you Seb Gorka is that the head of 237 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: counter terrorism the National Security Council. Sev is an old friend. 238 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: I have met with Seb and talked at length about 239 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: making this happen. And then just three weeks ago, I 240 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: was at the White House. I was with President Trump. 241 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: It was right after he had designated Nigeria as a 242 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: country a particular concern because Boko Haram and radical Islamic 243 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 2: terrorists were murdering Christians. More than fifty thousand Christians have 244 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: been murdered Nigeria. And I've been fighting to designate Nigeria 245 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: for a long time. And so I told the presidents 246 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: right after he did that, I said, I said, thank you, 247 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, thank you for designating Nigeria. Really 248 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: big deal, enormously important. And he responded me, he said, great, 249 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: ted happy to do it. He said, is there anyone 250 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: else we should designate? What else should we do? And 251 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: I said the Brotherhood, We should designate the Muslim Brotherhood. 252 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 2: He said to me three weeks ago, I'm happy to 253 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: do it. We'll get it done this week. He got 254 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: it done. It is a big, big, big deal. This 255 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: is literally ten years of hard work, and it will 256 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: make America safer because the Muslim Brotherhood is funding terrorists 257 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: that want to murder you and want to murder me. 258 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is not, just as you mentioned, a big deal. 259 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: It's a national security issue. And there's also been a 260 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: very weird quietness online on this. There are some members 261 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,599 Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party that are acting is that the 262 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: Muslim Brotherhood really shouldn't be designate as a terrorist organization. 263 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: It might be one of the weirdest things I've ever 264 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: seen on social media happen, and yet here we are 265 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: witnessing it in real time. Is They're like, well, hold 266 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: on a second, why would we really need to do this. 267 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, what world are you living in? Are you 268 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: kidding me? 269 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: Well, and many of our allies in the Middle East 270 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: already understand the threat. So, for example, the Global Muslim 271 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: Brotherhood is outlawed as a terrorist group by Bahrain, by Egypt, 272 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 2: by Jordan, by Saudi Arabia, and by the UAE. I've 273 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 2: spoke with the governments of those countries. They really want 274 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 2: the United States to do what President Trump did this week, 275 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: which is designate the Muslim Brotherhood. Austria has also banned 276 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 2: the group. Germany is considering legislation to do the same. 277 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: French intelligence has described the Muslim Brotherhood as quote a 278 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: threat to national cohesion, and the British officials say the 279 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: Muslim Brotherhood is subject to surveillance under Britain's anti extremism laws. 280 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: So there is a growing movement to recognize that the 281 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: Muslim Brotherhood is funding, is promoting terrorism, Terrorism that is 282 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: trying to kill Americans, terrorism that's trying to kill Europeans, 283 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: terrorism that is trying to kill Israelis. And designating a 284 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: group as a terrorist organization unleashes a host of tools, 285 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: including sanctions and wrecked military action that we can take 286 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: against them. And this is as I said, it has 287 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: been ten years. I've been fighting for this to happen. 288 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: I want to credit President Trump here. Here's what the 289 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal Editorial Board wrote about it. Wall Street 290 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: Journal Editorial Board said, quote, nearly a quarter century, after 291 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: nine to eleven, the US has taken aim at a 292 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: leading incubator of Islamic terrorism, the Muslim Brotherhood. Previous attempts 293 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: to prescribe the group, including by the first Trump administration, 294 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: were stymied by the Brotherhood's loose structure. On Monday, President 295 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: Trump signed an executive order to begin the process of 296 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: designating the Brotherhood branches as terrorist organizations. Branches in Egypt, Jordan, 297 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: and Lebanon are singled out for a thirty day review, 298 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: though the order isn't limitated to them. This is a 299 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: big deal. America is safer. Thank you, President Trump. 300 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: All Right, So there's another thing. 301 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: This week's center and it really rarely to headlines like 302 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: actually genuinely ticked me off, cynical guy, But there was 303 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: one this week with the New York Times. 304 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna I'm gonna call bs on that. 305 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna call on that. 306 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: You think the New York Times this week? 307 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you too well. I has there been 308 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: a day in the past year when there was not 309 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: a headline that pissed you off? 310 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: Yes, Eastern Christmas, Thanksgiving, Probably because I'm not reading the 311 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: news then. 312 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: So the days you don't read the headlines, I'm just 313 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: saying they kissed you off every day. But I will 314 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: admit this was particularly infuriating. 315 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: Very okay, so you'll back on my team on this one. 316 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: I like this. 317 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: So there's this story, then you're always on my team. 318 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: You're you're a You're a constructive criticism teammate. That's how 319 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: I would describe you. So the New York Times comes 320 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: out with this headline, this story that's actually supposed to 321 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: make you, as an American citizen, feel sorry for an 322 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: undocumented worker. 323 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: They call it that. 324 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: I call it an illegal immigrant that stole an American's identity. 325 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: And they say, well, there's two men that paid a price. 326 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: And they also refer to the identity as a individual, 327 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: like one, like two become one, like they're married. It 328 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: is the most insane propaganda, even from the New York 329 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: Times standard. 330 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: Well, all across the country, there are thousands of people 331 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: who have had their identity stolen by illegal immigrants, and 332 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: it is causing real pain. It's causing real chaos. Ironically, 333 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: the New York Times and the Myths that are propaganda 334 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 2: piece accidentally reported the news and talked about the devastating consequences. Now, 335 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: of course, what they said is that if an illegal 336 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 2: immigrant steals your identity, the illegal alien is a victim 337 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: and not just you. So let's just read the beginning 338 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: of this article, because it's one that will make your 339 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: head explode the title. Two men, one identity. They both 340 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: paid the price. Thousands of undocumented workers rely on fraudulent 341 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: Social Security numbers. One of them belong to Dan Clover. 342 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: Dan Clover saw the police lights flashing in his rearview 343 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: mirror late last year and eased his car onto the shoulder, 344 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: thinking there had been some kind of mistake. He had 345 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: spent four decades in rural Minnesota without ever getting into trouble. 346 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: He prided himself on a life built around dependability and routine, 347 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 2: working at the same factory where his father once did, 348 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: and spending his weekends coaching baseball and teaching Sunday school. 349 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: He had never fired a gun, or smoked a cigarette, 350 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: or missed a payment, or had been arrested. By the way, 351 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I believe that he's never fired a gun. 352 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: The guys in rural Minnesota. That sounds like a New 353 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: York Times BS statement, But leave that as his side. 354 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: Quote license and registration, please, the officer said. Clover forty two, 355 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: handed them over and waited while the officer went back 356 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: to his patrol call. He listened to the church bells 357 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: that rang every hour and watched the sunlight reflect off 358 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: the grain silos in downtown Olivia, where he knew most 359 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 2: of the two twenty four hundred residents, including the officers. 360 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 2: Walking back to his car, it's everything all right, Clover asked. 361 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: It's strange, but it looks like your license has been suspended. 362 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: You've got another driver's license with some issues down in Missouri. 363 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 2: What Clover said, I've barely ever been to Missouri. How 364 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 2: is that possible. The officer had no answers, but Clover 365 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: feared he might know what was happening. Over the years, 366 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: there had been signs that something wasn't right, stray letters 367 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: about wages earned in unfamiliar towns, and collection notices for 368 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: debt that wasn't his. Clover had tried to untangle the 369 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: mess several times by hiring tax specialists and driving to 370 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: government offices across the state, only to run into the 371 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 2: same bureaucratic dead ends. But now the problem was bigger 372 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 2: than unpaid taxes. Somebody was impersonating him, moving through the 373 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: world as Dan Clover, building a life in his name 374 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: with a government issued ID. His The problem was one 375 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 2: version of a problem that's been spreading across the country 376 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: for years. The government estimates that as many as one 377 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: million undocumented workers are using fraudulent or stolen social security numbers. 378 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: Let me repeat that, The government estimates that as many 379 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: as one million undocumented workers are using fra stolen social 380 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: security numbers a survival tactic. Of course, it's fiber tactic. 381 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 2: They're just stealing because they want to survive, used to 382 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: pass background checks and get jobs. The numbers are skimmed 383 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: from data breach, sold in the black market online for 384 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: as little as one hundred and fifty dollars, or handed 385 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: out in border towns by human smugglers. Many numbers connect 386 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: back to US citizen children, dead people, or Porto Ricans, 387 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: whose numbers circulate easily across the mainland, but thousands of 388 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: others belong to people like Clover, Americans whose names and 389 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: identities are no longer theirs alone. The police officer sent 390 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: Clover home with a warning, and he sifted through filecap 391 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: vents with his wife Christie, searching for clues about the 392 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: other Dan Clover. His solid security card was safely locked away, 393 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: alongside birth certificates for their three children. He'd never been 394 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 2: robbed or even lost his wallet, but there was his 395 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 2: number printed on a W two from a leather factory 396 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: in a town he never visited. He traced fifteen years 397 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 2: of records and found more tax documents listing unfamiliar jobs 398 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: at a cement plant in Kansas, a paper mill in Tennessee, 399 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: a construction company in Ohio, a seal a cereal factory 400 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: in Nebraska, and a dog food plant in Missouri. How 401 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 2: do you think you've been getting between all these places, 402 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: Christie asked. It's eerie. It's like I've lost all control 403 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: over who I am, Clover said. Some years the other 404 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: Dan Clover had earned more than his own salary at 405 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 2: a local sugar beet factory, which pushed the total income 406 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: under a solid security number into a higher tax bracket. 407 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: As the death started to mount, twice he'd contacted law 408 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: enforcement and filed into DNIY theft report with the federal government. 409 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: He waited for relief while the IRS docked his annual 410 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 2: tax returns and garnished a few of his paychecks, costing 411 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: him thousands. Finally, a few months before their wedding in 412 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 2: twenty twelve, Christie decided to pay off the balance, emptying 413 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 2: her savings and sending a check for six thousand dollars 414 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: their relief lasted until the next tax season, when a 415 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 2: new bill arrived, this one for twenty two thousand dollars. 416 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: They spent the next decade living with the consequences annual 417 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 2: tax audits, budgets that never added up, whispered arguments. After 418 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: the kids went to bed, Clover kept calling government numbers 419 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 2: and waiting on hold until he eventually resigned himself to 420 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 2: a payment plan. He agreed to send the irs one 421 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars each month, which he'd done more 422 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: than thirty five times. I can't keep obsessing over this 423 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: and getting nowhere, he told Christie. I need to think 424 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: about something else that is going on. And yet The 425 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 2: New York Times at the same time described the person 426 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: who stolen's identity. He had lived under enough names and 427 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 2: numbers in the United States that they started to blur together. 428 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 2: Vincent Trochilo, Rainaldo Guera, and then, for more than a decade, 429 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: Daniel Clover, the name he'd used until he could barely 430 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 2: remember what it felt like to exist as himself. Romeo 431 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: Perez Bravo forty two a Guatemalan immigrant who has spent 432 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: most of his adult life working under borrowed identities, borrowed 433 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: being the fake name for stolen. By the start of 434 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, he was preparing for another graveyard shift 435 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: in Saint Joseph, Bassouri, lacing his work boots in the 436 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: darkness and his drafty rental while his wife and five 437 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 2: children slept, He packed their school lunches. The next day, 438 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: drove to the dog food factory and gathered with his 439 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: coworkers to say their nightly prayer. Then he swiped his 440 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: badge to again another twelve hour shift as Daniel Clover, 441 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 2: sinking deeper into an identity that wasn't really his own. Daniel, 442 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 2: his boss always shouted taking attendance before they went to 443 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: their lines. Here, he said. Perez Bravo had come to 444 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: the United States for the first time at sixteen to 445 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: help earn money for his family. Traveling alone to join 446 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 2: his father in Marshall, Minnesota, he hiked out of the 447 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: Guatemalan Highlands, rode atop a freight train for three weeks 448 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: across Mexico, nearly drowned in the Rio Grande, and took 449 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: a greyhound to Middle America, where life somehow felt harder. 450 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: He slept on a couch at his father's apartment and 451 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: enrolled in high school, despite speaking almost no English. Then 452 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: he began to look for a job, but no one 453 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: would hire an underage worker without papers. The entire story 454 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 2: goes on to say, this guy who has stolen the 455 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: identity of a poor working man in Minnesota, he's the victim, 456 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 2: despite the fact that that Daniel Clover, the real Daniel Clover, 457 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 2: is paying IRS debts, his credit has been ruined. It 458 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 2: has been a nightmare for him. And yet for the 459 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 2: New York Time, they say it's one identity. This the 460 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: poor guy that stole his identity, is really the victim. 461 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: It is an infuriating example of propaganda. Let me go 462 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: back to the stat that I read more than one 463 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 2: million illegal immigrants have stolen identities of Americans, and Americans 464 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: are hurting all over the country, and the New York 465 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: Times is saying, you too should have your identity stolen, 466 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: You too should pay the price, You too should pay 467 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: IRS bills that you don't know because an illegal immigrant 468 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: stole your identity. And by the way, that illegal immigrants 469 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 2: is the victim, not you. 470 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: Center finally, on the show, let's deal with a major problem. 471 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: It's huge. 472 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: A university is now warning of a quote unquote whiteness pandemic. 473 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: Not a problem, but a pandemic, a whiteness pandemic. This 474 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: coming from the University of Minnesota. I'll let you take 475 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: it from there. 476 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 2: Ye got to say, this is going to piss you off. 477 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: Are you white? Then apparently you are an evil, noxious 478 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: scourge on America. You are a pandemic, You are a virus, 479 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: You are a disease, and woke leftists are going to 480 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 2: re educate the whiteness right out of you. Like I 481 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: wish I were making this up, Like when I say 482 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: these words, you sound like a lunatic. You sound like 483 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: you're wearing like a tinfoil hat, and you believe in 484 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 2: conspiracy theories. But I want to read to you from 485 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: a website from the University of Minnesota. By the way, 486 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 2: there is a state website. This is all right. Here's 487 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: what the website says, quote, what is the whiteness pandemic? 488 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: Racism is an epidemic that can also be considered a 489 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: pandemic given its large cross national proportion and spread. However, 490 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: there is another pandemic lurking behind and driving the racist pandemic, 491 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: the whiteness pandemic. Whiteness refers to culture not biology. The 492 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: century culture of whiteness features color blindness, in other words, 493 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 2: not being a racist. That is, the whiteness pandemic. Passivity, 494 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 2: and white fragility were all covert expressions of racism common 495 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: in the United States. Naming the whiteness pandemic shifts our 496 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: gaze from the victims and effects of racism onto the 497 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 2: systems that perpetrate and perpetuate racism, starting with the family system. 498 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 2: In other words, families are racist. If you believe in families, 499 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: if you believe in a mom and dad raising kids, 500 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: loving kids. That is, the family system is part of 501 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 2: the whiteness pandemic. At birth, young children growing up in 502 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: white families begin to be socialized into the culture of whiteness, 503 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: making the family system one of the most powerful systems 504 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: involved in systemic racism. That this is open. We hate families, 505 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: is what the University of Minnesota is saying. And okay, 506 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: what's the next section? Quote how do we halt and 507 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: reverse the whiteness pandemic? If you were born and raised 508 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: in the United States, you have grown up in the 509 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: whiteness pandemic, and you can play a role in halting 510 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: or reversing this pandemic. Especially if you are white, because 511 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: of the power and privilege you hold in this racialized society. 512 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: If you were socialized into the culture of whiteness during 513 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: your childhood, it is not your fault, but as an adult, 514 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: it is now your responsibility to self reflect, to re 515 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: educate yourself and act. If you are a white adult, 516 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: anti racist action involves an ongoing process of self reflection 517 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: in order to develop a healthy, positive white identity while 518 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: encouraging courageous anti racist parenting sash caregiving. What utter and 519 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: complete garbage, what racist leftist communist drek And this is 520 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: the University of Minnesota. By the way, Look, there are 521 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: like great people in Minnesota, They're great people in every state, 522 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: and yet these people are racist radicals. And this is 523 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: what they're indoctrinating our children with. 524 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: Not only the indoctionnary children, but this is where a 525 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: lot of our dollars are tax hours go, which is 526 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: the other frustrating part that this is what they're indoctrinating 527 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: them with. 528 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: Undoubtedly. And by the way, our podcast on Monday, so 529 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: we do this podcast three days a week, Monday, Wednesday, 530 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: and Friday. Our podcast on Monday talked about what is 531 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: the number one funder of Al Shabab, the radical Islamics 532 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: terrorist group. And the answer, terrifyingly enough, is the taxpayers 533 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: of the state of Minnesota. So in Minnesota has a 534 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: huge Somali community. Somalis have invaded the state of Minnesota. 535 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: It's how you elect Ilhan Omar, who actively is anti 536 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: American racist, radical embraces and supports radical Islamic terrorists. And 537 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: the Somali community sends billions every year back to Somalia 538 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: and millions of that money sent back ends up directly 539 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: in the pockets and the coffers of Al Shabab. And 540 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: it is the Minnesota state taxpayers. So we detailed this 541 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: on Monday. How welfare fraud, fraudulent collection of welfare payments, 542 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: an entire welfare system set up seemingly on the face 543 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 2: of it to encourage fraud, to facilitate fraud, is resulting 544 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: in Minnesota taxpayers sending millions of dollars to radical Islamic terrorists. 545 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: This is the same ideology like what do you do 546 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: if you happen to be a white kid at the 547 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: University of Minnesota. You show up and be told by 548 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: the way you're just you know your seventeen eighteen year 549 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: old kid. You show up as a freshman, and if 550 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: you're white, you're told you're a pandemic, you're a virus. 551 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: And the only answer is re educate yourself because who 552 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: you are, who America is. And understand this screed against 553 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: quote anti whiteness, is also a screed against America. That 554 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: these Marxists hate the United States of America, they hate 555 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: the Constitution, they hate our freedoms. And this garbage that 556 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 2: is anti racism, this garbage that is DEI, this garbage 557 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: that says we must institutionalize. By the way, the fix 558 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: for the anti for the whiteness pandemic is to discriminate 559 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,959 Speaker 2: against anyone who is white, is to institutionalize racism. And 560 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: that is grotesque. It is wrong. It is contrary to 561 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: the fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, which protects provides the 562 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: equal protection of the law to all people are regardless 563 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: of race. It is contrary to the founding notions of 564 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: this country. The Declaration said, we hold these truths to 565 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: be self evident, that all men are created equal, not some, 566 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: not just white people, not just black people, not anyone. 567 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: All men and all women are created equal, that they 568 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: are endowed by their creator with certain unvailable rights that 569 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: among them are life liberty in the pursuit of happiness. 570 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: That's what this country was built on. And these Marxists 571 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: who have taken over our institutions hate that notion, and 572 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 2: this kind of garbage is being spewed to our children 573 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: and being used to brainwash our children at a massive rate. 574 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: I tell this all the time to parents when they 575 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: ask be careful where you send your kids to college, 576 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: because they could be indoctrinated to literally hate this country. 577 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 3: This is another exam. 578 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: And to hate you exactly, to hate their mom and dad. 579 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: But by the way, what I just read the family system. 580 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: They are attacking families. They're telling your kids family is evil. 581 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: That's what Marxists believe. 582 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, amen, don't We do this show as a podcast Monday, 583 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday, So make sure you hit that subscribe 584 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: or that auto download button. 585 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 3: Wherever you get your podcasts. 586 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: If you like to watch the show, you can do 587 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: that on YouTube as well as most of the episodes 588 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: we do as a video podcast as well, so on 589 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: YouTube you can grab it there, and also you can 590 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: catch a show on the radio station that you're listening 591 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: to right now. Each and every weekend, so make sure 592 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: down with Verdict with Ted Cruz wherever you get your podcasts. 593 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: Ben Ferguson, it's been a pleasure to be with you. 594 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: Be safe out there on the roads, whether there's Thanksgiving 595 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: holiday weekend, and we'll see you back here real soon