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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Media Match,

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Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and offering sieling

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Speaker 1: takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys. Now

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Speaker 1: your host, Steve Dennis, Well, hello again to all of

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Speaker 1: you proud, fired up, happy individuals that make up Cowboys Nation,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for tuning in to mediamash this Wednesday, heading

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Speaker 1: into NFL Week number five Live from the s WBC studio.

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Speaker 1: Hi there, I am Steve Dennis on this Wednesday. Did

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Speaker 1: we get busy looking ahead to week number five? In

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Speaker 1: the New York Football and Giants clarencey Hill Junior, the

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Speaker 1: four World Star Telegram right here, John Mashoda from The

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Speaker 1: Athletic right there and his podcast, and Rob Phillips withal

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys media. You can read him, you can hear him.

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Speaker 1: We are gathered again, another win, kind of more of

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Speaker 1: the same. I don't think we need to rehash the

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Speaker 1: game that much. We will sneak into it because we

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Speaker 1: have some stuff happening. And I think to begin with here, fellas,

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Speaker 1: we need to wave goodbye to mister clear eyed View

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Speaker 1: and wonder why, why the win? How much sense we

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Speaker 1: need to make of it? Clarence, would you like to

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Speaker 1: go first on Jayalen Smith leaving the fold after five

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Speaker 1: plus years on his sixth year. Actually, I mean they're

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Speaker 1: you know, thoughts all over the place. But the only surprise,

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Speaker 1: I guess is the timing. I mean, if you look

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Speaker 1: at the situation, most people that if it was going

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Speaker 1: based on the makeup. But the team and he, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, clearly his role was reduced. You look at

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Speaker 1: his contract. Uh, he doesn't play special teams, you know,

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Speaker 1: so he's not gonna play special teams. Veteran linebacker, backup linebackers,

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Speaker 1: you got to play special teams. Uh. The murders of

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Speaker 1: Micael and what they're doing, Uh, it's not a surprise

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Speaker 1: it happened. Now, Yeah, I completely agree with that. Part

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Speaker 1: of it is the timing. Um. The thing I keep

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Speaker 1: going back to is at the end of the year

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Speaker 1: when he was asked, you know, specifically, if you think

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Speaker 1: film type. You know, he wasn't bad, and sounds like

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Speaker 1: So the thing that I the thing I take away

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Speaker 1: from that is that so after that half after those

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Speaker 1: tape of the previous Cowboys defense. And after he got

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Speaker 1: done doing that, the most significant offseason signing was a linebacker,

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Speaker 1: was Michael Parsons. Actions speak louder in the words and

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Speaker 1: the actions were that he watched that film and that

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Speaker 1: it wasn't the Pro Bowl type linebacker that I think

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Speaker 1: The thing that I love about it is he simply

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Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. Dan Quinn doesn't want him on

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Speaker 1: it's a cold move, a colder move than Jerry would

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Speaker 1: But they've they've been cruel and ruthless and cutting some people.

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Speaker 1: But I think that it's complicated. But there are a

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Speaker 1: and then you have to understand how they're playing. As

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Speaker 1: So it's a lot of things. Well, and then the

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Speaker 1: know every player is different and some Von Gilmore is

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Speaker 1: a great player, but Jerry was asked specifically about Richard

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Speaker 1: about now with Tampa, why weren't you in there? And

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Speaker 1: he talked about progress stopping. Maybe that's the philosophy they're going.

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Speaker 1: The other part of it, too, is he is thirty one.

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Speaker 1: Gilmore's thirty one, and it's this injury that's kept him

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Speaker 1: out since December, and he's out for at least another

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. You don't know what the what the

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Speaker 1: his status, what his health is like. And you know,

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Speaker 1: if he's a free agent, maybe that's different. You're able

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Speaker 1: to maybe take a look. But and you can put

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Speaker 1: them and you can put some things in the contract

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Speaker 1: if you're a free AG said, I think they we're

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Speaker 1: free agis putting roster bonuses in. It's you know, game

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Speaker 1: day bonuses in, you know, based on the health and

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Speaker 1: all that other stuff. But I again, I get what

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Speaker 1: they're not playing the young guys. They're playing Anthony Brown. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And if you really feel good about this team and

447
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Speaker 1: where you're going, this year, you know, go all in,

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Speaker 1: chips all in. Not to mention what the young guys

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Speaker 1: can learn from Stefani, especially a rookie. Yeah, and and

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Speaker 1: and and as much, let's let's be honest about it.

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Speaker 1: As much as they say they love Kelvin Joseph, he's

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Speaker 1: shown them nothing. We are watched training account. He was

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Speaker 1: not better than writing in train account or manicomp and

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Speaker 1: not anth Brown either one best. So what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: anything that say he's gonna come and make that type

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Speaker 1: of impact this year. The one thing the Cowboys seemed

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Speaker 1: to lack in my opinion these days and maybe the

461
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Speaker 1: last fifteen years, is that ability to strike. See right now,

462
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Speaker 1: everything could not be on a better level. This team

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Speaker 1: is off to a fabulous start. Everything looks good. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they've got they've they're they're winning the coaching bat everything

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Speaker 1: looks good. Why not strike boom? That's what Jerry used

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Speaker 1: to do. He would make a he did it with

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Speaker 1: Dion Sanders, make a ridiculous strike and put everybody on

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Speaker 1: notice they did yesterday by cutting Jalen Smith. That was

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Speaker 1: their strike that sent the message. Okay, how about that.

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Speaker 1: stre too boom. But that was a good message that

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Speaker 1: that we feel the way we feel about this team

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Speaker 1: the guys that are coming back. So you know, that

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Speaker 1: was a bold move. It was cut cutting Denim with

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Speaker 1: again again with all Let's just go back there for

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Speaker 1: one second. It's a seven team game season. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: got injuries or made the Dayland has never been hurt

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Speaker 1: leyden has Okay, Ken O'Neill just missed two games with COVID.

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Speaker 1: He's not vexed. He could miss more. You've already you're

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Speaker 1: using Michael like a mug in and whatever else. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know you there are reasons to me justifying why

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think dan quinn wants him on

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Speaker 1: other things. But I'm just saying that you could have

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to uh topic number two. We'll

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Speaker 1: we've seen four games. We all know the Cowboys are good.

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Speaker 1: They've proven it against different teams, different defenses, different quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: Good for him going to a contender. Are you going

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Speaker 1: in the stupisation. Speaking of them being a contender, do

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Speaker 1: you know there are twelve teams in the NFL right now,

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546
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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, they're three in one. Denverse three and one

547
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Speaker 1: is are people going nuts over the Broncos. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can go Carolina. We already knew because they were undefeated.

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Speaker 1: They're three in one. All these teams are three and one,

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Speaker 1: Green Bays three in one. It all comes down to

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Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback, Steed. We talk about this all the time.

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Speaker 1: If you have a franchise quarterback and you're three on one,

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Speaker 1: you have a chance. Yeah, and they are excited in

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati probably, but you would never hear about it. You

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Speaker 1: hear about it with a Cowboys baby. All right, I

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Speaker 1: want to I want to do this four games in.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to our very first media

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Speaker 1: mass show. It was two days before the opener against Tampa.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember who was on it with me. I no,

560
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Speaker 1: Chill was machowed. I think you may have been too.

561
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Speaker 1: But we were talking about our biggest concern. This team

562
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Speaker 1: had so many question marks flying around all over the place.

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Speaker 1: And I want to revisit that a bit because in

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Speaker 1: the middle of all this excitement, in the middle of

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Speaker 1: Dak and Zeke and and you know, digs, and it's

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Speaker 1: just ridiculous Zach Martin is playing out of his mind.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's excited. They're three and one. We can all agree

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Speaker 1: four games is enough to know that this team is

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Speaker 1: pretty good and is going to be good. But how

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Speaker 1: are they going to be good enough to change the

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Speaker 1: narrative around here? What's the one thing that you've seen, guy,

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Speaker 1: position whatever? Since the position we were in before the

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Speaker 1: season started. And I'm going to start because I was

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Speaker 1: on that show saying, it's the defensive line. To me,

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Speaker 1: to me, the defensive line was the entire key to

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Speaker 1: this season because it was so bad last year and

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Speaker 1: it was the reason their defense was just horrible. And

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Speaker 1: we had no idea. I can remember, all of us

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Speaker 1: are green. We didn't know what they were gonna be.

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Speaker 1: And here we sit after four games, thirteen different of

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Speaker 1: them have played. They've got nine sacks. Things are tumbling

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Speaker 1: down that nice? Does that ever happened in the s

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Speaker 1: We can keep this one up. There we go. That's

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Speaker 1: all it took. We're good. We'll see. We're good about that.

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Speaker 1: What's spending a lot of money around here? Huh? Well?

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Speaker 1: The wind blew somehow we got We've got Micah Parsons

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Speaker 1: with eight sacks and he I mean quarterback pressures, uh

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Speaker 1: and two point five sacks. He's a big part of

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Speaker 1: it because of his versatility. You got the two third

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Speaker 1: round draft picks OSA and now Chauncey who jumps in.

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Speaker 1: Nobody had any idea what he was gonna be. You've

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Speaker 1: got the great story of Randy Gregory, which I have

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Speaker 1: been doubting for about five years. Is he finally paying off?

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Speaker 1: Is his moment right now? And I still love the

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Speaker 1: kid listening to him talk after the game. Man, He's

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Speaker 1: so cool and smart and I'm happy for him, But

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Speaker 1: I still is this the moment? I mean? But that

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Speaker 1: aside the defensive line. They didn't have any pressure in

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Speaker 1: the first game against Brady. Since then, man, that to me,

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Speaker 1: says DeMarcus Lawrence has been out, Armstrong's been out, Watkins

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Speaker 1: inside has been out, Gallimore inside has been out. They

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Speaker 1: get all these guys back this D line, Maybe how

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Speaker 1: they're going to be really good thoughts. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: on the other side and I'm gonna steal from Ezekiel eight. Today,

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Speaker 1: Zeke was asked basically about how when he came in

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Speaker 1: the league in twenty sixteen. You know, this team was

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Speaker 1: built around him in the running game and now that

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Speaker 1: that is completely flipped and it's built around Deck and

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Speaker 1: the passing game. And Zeke said, no, it's built around

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, and we'll go as far as the

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Speaker 1: offensive line can carry us. And I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 1: the offensive line because not only do you have this

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Speaker 1: group right now without Lyle Collins playing well and with

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Speaker 1: Terren Steele playing I think beyond anybody's expectations outside of

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Speaker 1: Terren Steele. Then you mix in what they've been doing

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Speaker 1: with Connor McGovern in the run game, and he's certainly

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Speaker 1: a guy that can step in if they need him

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Speaker 1: there Mac show Yeah. And then the fact that you're

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Speaker 1: other options there that you could possibly turn to. I

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Speaker 1: I do think this team will go as far as

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Speaker 1: the offensive line can take him. I would counter that

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Speaker 1: real quick for somebody else jumps in. Haven't we known

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Speaker 1: that the offensive line is pretty good when they're healthy

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Speaker 1: the last four or five years have they been healthy

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Speaker 1: the problem with that is that the record and from

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Speaker 1: It remains an issue. So to make a blanket statement,

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Speaker 1: they're pretty good when they're healthy. They got two weak

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Speaker 1: links that they are recognizing. They understand that that's going

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Speaker 1: they have La Collins coming back. I'm just talking about

638
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: center and left guard. Left guard and Collins come back

639
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: doesn't fix that. Doesn't every team have that though? I mean,

640
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: you're not wrong. I'm just telling doesn't every team have

641
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: a couple of spots where it's not We're so you

642
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: don't want it to be center. You don't want to

643
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: get run over when the point of a tack. I

644
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: get that, but we're so used to this. You can

645
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: literally make that so good every position in the offensive line. Yeah,

646
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: if you have a weak left tackle, you can say

647
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: if you have a weak right tackle, you can say that,

648
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: like you can make it about every whatever your weakest

649
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: part is in the offensive line, you can make that

650
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: and if it gets to a point it couldn't the

651
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: Mac show. I don't know they have some center do

652
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: They haven't done it. They haven't tried it. They haven't

653
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: done it. Why didn't they do it in the spring?

654
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't Why didn't they do it

655
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: in training camp? I don't know why we wait to

656
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: the regular season to start trying Mac and center that

657
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: it's an issue that's I don't know that. I think

658
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: I would have started that. He played center in college

659
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: when he came in and we talked about him, played

660
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: center and guard an option, But they didn't try him

661
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: there in the spring. They didn't chase one of those

662
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: guys that played all positions. No, when he played center

663
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: and guard most of the time at Pence Day, but

664
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: I think he may have played some tackle, and I

665
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: think he may have played left guard and right guard. Yeah.

666
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 1: So so my issue or my questions and my concern

667
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: is the past defense. You know, we're not doing concern.

668
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: We're doing the thing that you see that makes you think, chill,

669
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: that this can be really good. We already know it's good.

670
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't a concern that what you like about that? Yeah,

671
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: what do you see that that you're sitting up there

672
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: at three and one and you're going, Okay, this may

673
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 1: be the reason this team can do something they've never

674
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: done in your tenure, win two playoff games in a

675
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: Season's dan Quinn say it against dan Quinn? Yeah, okay,

676
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean because I I think it's easy. It's to

677
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: lay have to say that. We think the offense is special.

678
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: Has been special at times, you know, when the Cowboys

679
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: had good teams, they've been held back by their defense,

680
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: you know when, and they still got players coming back.

681
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: But what Quinn has done, how he's mixed and mixed

682
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: and played the players strength. I think he can be

683
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: a whapon for the Cowboys. All right, Rob, I think

684
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: it's what's left y'all took everything. I think it's my

685
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: special teams, not special. I think I think it's if

686
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: they can continue forcing takeaways on defense. And that's that's

687
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: a tricky deal. You know. It's not something you know

688
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: you can get every single week, like you can score

689
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: points every single week. But I just got reminded of

690
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: when when Trayvon got five interceptions, he's got them. He

691
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: tied Darren Sharper for the most in four games to

692
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: start a season. Sharper was part of that Oh nine

693
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: Saints team that led the league in scoring and was

694
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: like second and take aways and they won the Super Bowl. Like,

695
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: if you have that combination, you have an offense this

696
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: good and you can give them a couple extra possessions

697
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: a game, you're gonna be really good. You're gonna win.

698
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: Damn You're every game you play. Can they can they

699
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: continue getting two plus takeaways a game? That's the question.

700
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: Probably if they had sin Gilmour at their other corner spot,

701
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: they probably could have good. So you're predicting on kicking

702
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? Whoa going that far to February. That's

703
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: what happened. That's what happened. It is what happened. But

704
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: they're off to a good start in that regard. It's

705
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: just we're so used to this team not being able

706
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: to get those takeaways until they finally did down the

707
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: stretch last year, and they've carried it over so far

708
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: this year. I think I think it's interesting. I was

709
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: just checking they're twenty six after four games in total defense.

710
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: I saw Daniel Jones say today that he thinks that

711
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: when you watch Trayvon Diggs on tape, it's not like

712
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: I think from Afar, we think that he just goes

713
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: after every He's like, you can sell that he's picking

714
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: and choosing his spots, because if you're just going after

715
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: everyone and you're biting on everything, you can get well.

716
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: And Dak told you that. I mean, it's very specific.

717
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: He said there were certain things that Dak knew he

718
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: could not get away with early with Diggs because he

719
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: was smart enough not to let him in five yards

720
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: stop route whatever it is. Um you know. But but

721
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: back to my point, I was about to make. The

722
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: defense statistically has not been that good. Past defense is

723
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: thirty first overall defenses, twenty six. But you know there's

724
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: reasons for that. Number One, they're playing Brady and Herbert

725
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: and then they got big leads and just kind of

726
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: let the other team throw it around a little bit

727
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: on him. Miss it's light miss leading. But but Dan

728
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: did say they're giving up too many big plays. Still,

729
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: they didn't let Carolina throw it around on him. That

730
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: does not do them. There was a pick that was dropped. Well,

731
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: what was their biggest lead, thirty three fourteen, I think

732
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: it was thirty three fourteen, thirty three fourteen, and then

733
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: it was thirty. Now, then it was thirty three to

734
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two, and then thirty six to twenty two,

735
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: right thirty fourteen the field goal, make it thirty six fourteen.

736
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: That's when they came back. Um, there may there may

737
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: have been a little questionable intensity at that point, is

738
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. It looked everybody felt it that it

739
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: was a blowout, and Carolina did what they were supposed

740
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: to do. But my point is to me, and I'm

741
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: with you, when you got a plus seven turnover ratio

742
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: and you've got a defensive line that is helping that

743
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: because they are getting pressure and they've been pretty good

744
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: against the run at every level, and you're getting a

745
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: crazy guy like Michael Parsons doing whatever he needs to

746
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: do at whatever position he's playing that momentum and Digs

747
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: is off the charts, Defensive player of the week, defensive

748
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: player last month. I mean, there's nobody better in the

749
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 1: league right now defensively than him. It all of that,

750
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: no matter what the passing yards are, especially when you

751
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: have this offense. We all know, we all kind of

752
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: figured what the offense might be, didn't we. If Dak

753
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: came back and nobody mentioned that, by the way, the

754
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: key the dak a year a year, I think later

755
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: to clarss point, that's kind of the obvious one. I

756
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: didn't just want to take like the lowest of him

757
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: and fruit on that. To your point, go back on

758
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: the defensive line, though, I wanted to add, if that's

759
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: going to be the key, then you believe that Michael

760
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: Parsons is staying as a pressure player, which I think

761
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: we all should believe. And the only reason I'm bringing

762
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: that up because I did get the sense that when

763
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: that Jalen Smith news broke last night, there are a

764
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: lot of people that felt that all this means that

765
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: Mike's just moving back to linebacker and he's going to

766
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: stay playing as a traditional linebacker and that and I

767
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: don't see the happening, and I do think he'll continue

768
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: to help on the defensive line, and so if that

769
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: remains the case, then I can see Jerry on the

770
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: radio yesterday. You know, sometimes you gotta listen to Jerry.

771
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: For sure. That was a good answer on Mike, I

772
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 1: know exactly. He almost kind of said it like we're

773
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: not going to be idiots. Yeah, there's two positions, the

774
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: shutdown corner and the pressure, you know, And then he

775
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: went up talking about Aaron Donald, who does it from

776
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: the inside, who saw that coming. It's very rare to

777
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: come from the inside. And he said he wouldn't have

778
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: taken Mike at twelve if Michael was just a linebacker.

779
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: You right, and maybe Clarence too, were standing right there

780
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: after the press conference that night they drafted him, and

781
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: he kept talking about pressure. Pressure. Press probably talked him

782
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: over and you look at fully vaccinated press. Yeah, okay,

783
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: all right, but if you go, if you look into

784
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: Jerry's history since he's owned the team, bought the team

785
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: the highest they've drafted a line a true linebackers Bobby

786
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: Carpenter eighteen. Oh so sorry. They always drafted the wrong

787
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: buck guys except Zeke. It's a problem. Remember when they

788
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: had like six of them on the team. Chill, Michael

789
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: Wiley and your favorite offensive lineman, what was his name?

790
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: You hated him? He was not a good man you're

791
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: talking about. Come on, Tyson Walter. Tyson Walters hate anybody

792
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: some of the stuff he said to the media. Come

793
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: on now, yeah today, I don't remember any of that.

794
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 1: I just know I don't hate anybody. Anybody. May let's

795
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: just put it this way. It made me question the

796
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: small town in Ohio he grew up in. That's all um,

797
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: but it uh, let's let's let's talk about the pressure

798
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: just real quick. Just hold a handout and count DeMarcus

799
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: Lawrence is gonna come back. Dorince Armstrong is gonna come back.

800
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: This rotation that they've been talking about for a multitude

801
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: of years. Osa inside, Chauncey Gallimore, uh Mica, maybe Tristan

802
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: Hill at some point, well, I forgot all about him

803
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: and he's on pup for another couple of weeks minimum.

804
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: If they have a team that all of a sudden,

805
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: if you know, in Randy Gregory very interesting to me.

806
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: He said something that I've never thought of. After the game.

807
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: You guys all heard it. He said that they they

808
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: operate as one. We're operating is one four as one. See.

809
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: I've always thought that getting to the quarterback was an

810
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: individual thing. The sack was an individual stat and he's

811
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: talking about we do it as one. And I got

812
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: to think about that. I've never heard anybody say that

813
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: that's they that's part. Yes to mind, sat Yes, they

814
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: do operate as one. They it's what you do to

815
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: Russian lanes all this stuff. It is they joint pass

816
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: for us. I don't know why you haven't heard that

817
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: from a player, see, because most guys want to dance

818
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: when they get a sack. Randy Gregory is talking about

819
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: he had two sacks and we're starting to feel connected

820
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: and we're doing it as one. He didn't take the credit.

821
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: He's saying that we are bringing this and if they

822
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: bring more guys into it and just make that normal.

823
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: Well on his first sackt they I think the key

824
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: to that play was that they went five defensive linemen

825
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: if you count Michael Parsons in the middle. They put

826
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons over the center and bugging a gap. Huh, well,

827
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: don't do this right now, chill and then and then

828
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: he and then so you had him in the middle,

829
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: and then you still had Randy out there with Chauncey

830
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: Golston with Osa you know, and Terrell Basham. So you

831
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: had like five legitimate pass rushers there. And because of that,

832
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: the offensive line had a kind of pick and choose,

833
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: and Michael Parsons took on two guys. Can I can

834
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: I hav on a side? Oh, Mia, don't do this.

835
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: We'll just let the listener in on it. Whatever it

836
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: listeners don't want. There was a reporter in training camp

837
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: who saw Michael Parsons mugging a gap and tweeted that

838
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: he was there. They're playing Micae Parsons a defensive tackle. No,

839
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: he was just blitzing from the a gap with that

840
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: plane drives up great story. I'm trying to figure out

841
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: who you're picking up. I can probably get that this

842
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: little way to the tell us more. It was so good. Yeah,

843
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,959
Speaker 1: quick question on Gregory though again humor. I always loved

844
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: the discussions that have been around for a long time,

845
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: and we always take positions on him, and sometimes maybe

846
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: you're in the wrong position. I hope I am with Randy.

847
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 1: Jerry had a wonderful comment again on his radio visit

848
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Speaker 1: this week where he said that the issues that have

849
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Speaker 1: bothered Randy, the thing about him is it colors you

850
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: the perception of you when that's not who you are

851
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Speaker 1: at all. And you know, all that stuff doesn't matter

852
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: to me. I've always said you can't trust him. He's

853
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: Jerry's been way too patient with the guy. He's never

854
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: helped the team ever, and he's been here for five

855
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: six years. Do you guys think that this is finally

856
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: gonna be either Randy Gregory payoff and was it worth it?

857
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: If it is, Yeah, I think it's worth it because

858
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Speaker 1: what were you really like? It wasn't like he was

859
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Speaker 1: taking up a roster spot. He was a second round

860
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Speaker 1: draft pick. You could have got another guy, Okay, but

861
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Speaker 1: who knows if that player would even have been any

862
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: anything special. It's not like he was holding them back

863
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Speaker 1: from having like von Miller or something like who knows

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Speaker 1: what they would have even had there, and it's a

865
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Speaker 1: late second round pick, like who was pick sixty? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who knows what you even have got. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that they really risked a lot. It's not like he

868
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Speaker 1: was an issue in the locker room and you're just

869
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Speaker 1: kind of looking around, like, Jerry, how long are you

870
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Speaker 1: gonna keep going with this? He's this is a problem.

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Speaker 1: He's never been that guy, and so I don't think

872
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Speaker 1: it's ever was an issue to that point. And I

873
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Speaker 1: do think that you could be getting the you know,

874
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Speaker 1: the dividends could be paying off now because he certainly

875
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Speaker 1: looks like a player who yeah, he's dealing with the

876
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Speaker 1: knee issue that he said that it's just going to

877
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Speaker 1: be something he has to put a little w D

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Speaker 1: forty on all season. I don't know why chills laughing,

879
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Speaker 1: but I'll just say real quick, I'll just say real quick,

880
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: they were patient because everything you just said about he's

881
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: a great guy, that's what they see. And the issues

882
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: he's had off the field. Jerry has said, a medical condition,

883
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: not something that he's doing wrong, he's a bad guy,

884
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and they were patient with that, and

885
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: he's worked through it to his credit. Yeah, that's it.

886
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: That's it a nutshell. I mean so patient that the

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Speaker 1: NFL has probably changing the rules completely to where everything

888
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Speaker 1: that he got in trouble with is no, you're an issue. Yeah.

889
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: But again, I mean I don't know if you're saying

890
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: regrets or whatever else. I mean, certainly, when they drafted him,

891
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 1: they expected him to play immediately. Yeah, they did. They expected.

892
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: They didn't expect all the suspensions of him not playing

893
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: all those years. Certainly they regret that he didn't get

894
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 1: to play and participate to have impact on those teams

895
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Speaker 1: because they thought thought that that was a possibility. If

896
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Speaker 1: you just go back and watch his face when they

897
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Speaker 1: make that back, I think he knew that there was

898
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Speaker 1: a chance. I'm talking about the code ownership, though I

899
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Speaker 1: guess what he's talking about. You're saying he wasn't the

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Speaker 1: right kind of guy to Jason. Probably not when they

901
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: made that pack, I don't think. But on those teams,

902
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: they thought they would had a chance to win and

903
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: they could have used this Jake. I mean this Randy

904
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Speaker 1: or that type of Randy who they thought they were

905
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Speaker 1: getting to play opposite. But in hindsight, you do like

906
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Speaker 1: the way he's playing now, and I think that you

907
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Speaker 1: you know, someone asked other day, you know, are you

908
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Speaker 1: gonna get we're just is he just scratching the service thing?

909
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: It was babe as the press conferences, you know, everything

910
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Speaker 1: he's been through and he really hasn't had two uh,

911
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: doesn't have a lot of wear and tear. I mean

912
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: this could be the baseline. You know, he could get

913
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Speaker 1: better and better than he's only scratching the surface of

914
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Speaker 1: what he could be. I guarantee you, and I'm only

915
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Speaker 1: gonna use Machowda because you guys in the athletic your

916
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Speaker 1: your features seem to be a little longer than others.

917
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Speaker 1: Or I could say the same thing for Jory in

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Speaker 1: USA today, it seems that way to me. I'm not

919
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Speaker 1: a writer, but he's one of those stories. The two

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Speaker 1: weeks of the Super Bowl, Cowboys are there in LA

921
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Speaker 1: and somebody's writing a huge feature on the wonderful trip

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Speaker 1: that Ranney Gregory has been on. If the Cowboys in

923
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Speaker 1: the super Bowl, everybody on the every every starter probably

924
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Speaker 1: has it. But I know what you're saying. He will

925
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Speaker 1: explode as that guy and he's a great personality. He's

926
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Speaker 1: got thirteen sacks right right, Yeah, well I'm becoming some

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, de Marcus Lawns gotta get some

928
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Speaker 1: of them. Let's let's not put thirteen sacks. Let's get

929
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Speaker 1: to Marcus back on the hes, getting back on the

930
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Speaker 1: film of the sand. But but listen, there's when you

931
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Speaker 1: There's so many great stories. Bow several super Bowls, but

933
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Speaker 1: there's so many great stories. I mean, yeah, Randy Zeke

934
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Speaker 1: is gonna be a great story. That is gonna be

935
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Speaker 1: a great story. CD Marii, the offensive lineman, Dan Quinn,

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Speaker 1: Mike mcm there, he put him there. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying that, you know, to say that there's a

938
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Speaker 1: lot of that would be if that happened. But with

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Speaker 1: four games into the season, she'll miss that. Repeat that

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Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz, Baby Wright a chill, But listen, I thought

941
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942
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Speaker 1: keep an eye hitting the ground. As a step number two,

943
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1003
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Speaker 1: the NFL did this on purpose? You think, of course

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Speaker 1: the NFL did this on purpose. They're sitting there, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's see, yes, what day again? Yes, and let's put

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Speaker 1: I think that's going a little I don't either. One

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Speaker 1: of the odds. What are the odds did this on purpose?

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Speaker 1: They did the schedule in May or whatever whatever April.

1010
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Speaker 1: They knew and they those schedule, They know what they're doing,

1011
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Speaker 1: and they did this on seems pretty sick. I mean,

1012
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Speaker 1: when you're involving an injury. Well, it's one thing if

1013
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Speaker 1: you're like, hey, they set it up so that the

1014
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1015
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Speaker 1: could get that passing record while he's going against the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: his former team. That's one thing. Like to mess like

1017
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Speaker 1: an injury like that. If you're right, if you're right

1018
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Speaker 1: on this, it's pretty sick. I think at that point

1019
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: they knew here though. It was after he signed his

1020
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: car on track. They everybody said he was gonna be healthy.

1021
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that. You know, they knew he was

1022
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Speaker 1: gonna be on the field. They expected to be on

1023
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Speaker 1: the field. Yea. And they set this up again. When

1024
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Speaker 1: I set it up to Dak is because it is

1025
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Speaker 1: what we're talking about, that's what we do. Well, it's

1026
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Speaker 1: an anniversary blaming you, And he said I would be

1027
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Speaker 1: naive not to think about it because I know that's

1028
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Speaker 1: what you're gonna talk about. You know. What he said

1029
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Speaker 1: was if you guys are gonna talk about it, we are,

1030
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Speaker 1: then I'm gonna have to think about it. And it

1031
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: made me wonder how difficult that is for him to

1032
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: do right now when everything is going so great and

1033
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 1: he's playing great. He's got no issues with the team.

1034
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: He's just boom. We're going forward, and here comes this

1035
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: story where you gotta take him back and take the

1036
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: whole team back. I thought it was very interesting. We

1037
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Speaker 1: started last week then Kellen Moore had to revisit the injury.

1038
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: Not interesting. It was ironic that Dak became available because

1039
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 1: of Kevin Moore's injury in training camp, and now Kelvin

1040
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: is talking about, Yeah, that was that was hard, and

1041
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: McCarthy had a great comment about it. I'm not saying

1042
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: it's not a great media angle. What I'm saying is,

1043
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: isn't it difficult for Dak to have to go through

1044
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: that this way? I don't think it is because for

1045
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: me and I think Dak probably feels the same way.

1046
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Speaker 1: Like that was week one, that was in Dominican sue

1047
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Speaker 1: jumping on you when when you're sitting there trying to

1048
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Speaker 1: complete a pass, like when you got past that, like

1049
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Speaker 1: the team that you're playing against the week if it

1050
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Speaker 1: falls on the same date, those are just different jerseys,

1051
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Speaker 1: and that I think the getting on the field, being

1052
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Speaker 1: able to take hits, making throws pass that not to

1053
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Speaker 1: mention that, Like watch Dak last week, Like two of

1054
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Speaker 1: the best plays that he made was when he ran

1055
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Speaker 1: out of bounce, Like wow, what was he going to

1056
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Speaker 1: get if he stayed in bouncing fought like three other yards?

1057
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: Like who cares? The fact that he had both those

1058
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: big runs, they were huge plays in the game. When

1059
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: they happened and he got out of bouncing, it was fine.

1060
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: And I think that he has moved past that. So

1061
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: because of that, I don't think he's gonna look at

1062
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: it that way. He's so mentally tough, I don't I

1063
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: don't see him worry about stuff like that, if there's

1064
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: any I mean, Okay, it happened in at and T Stadium,

1065
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: and he's played two games at home. Now he's seen

1066
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: he probably maybe maybe across his mind the spot where

1067
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: it happened. But he's played two games already, He's thrown

1068
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: for four hundred yards and four testdowns. Yeah, I think

1069
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: he's gone this week. I'm saying, Hello, he loves the Giants. Listen, listen.

1070
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: Is that because of Jason Garretts On the other side,

1071
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: Clarence build this story. I think that. I think it's great.

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00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: That is everything he's done. He's answered all the questions.

1073
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: By the way, guys, Clarence just stood up. So this

1074
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 1: is about to be profound back hurt. You're the only

1075
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: one in here older than me. Wait a minute, are

1076
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: you older? You're older? But I mean, I'm just saying

1077
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: he answered all the questions. The one thing he hadn't

1078
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: done for much of the year, at least greatly, was run.

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00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: Then the week before the Giants game, he's running like

1080
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: the Dickens, like I'm back. You know, I'm back right

1081
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: before the Jazz game. And it's great. And listen, we yeah,

1082
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: we started, uh we started last week asking his teammate's questions.

1083
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: You know, then we're asking everybody that people have called

1084
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: family members. He knows these questions are coming about the

1085
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: anniversary and where they were and what they thought and

1086
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: you know, going through their minds. So yes, and he

1087
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: answered a hard knocks. We revisited it, so I don't

1088
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: think he showed his card. So I mean, I think

1089
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: he can handle the questions and handle all of that stuff.

1090
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: And he will be the first one to tell you.

1091
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: He will be the first one as you win, but

1092
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: he will be the first one to tell you that

1093
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: every starting job he's got is because somebody got hurt,

1094
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: happened in high school, happening in college, happening in pros.

1095
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: The starter got hurt. He took the job, so he

1096
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: understands the injuries the part of game. If Kellen Moore

1097
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 1: didn't get hurt, do you think he's stilled the starting quarterback?

1098
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: Rombo I was talking about Romo, Well, speaking of that

1099
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: Keller Moore moment, real quick it's it's one of the

1100
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: greatest things that I remember in my time. I was

1101
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 1: doing the show on ESPN with Mark Freedman, then Freedom,

1102
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: and I was standing by the tent when they brought

1103
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore by, and then remember Dak did a media

1104
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: session over there after that practice. Freedo was a part

1105
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: of that and came back and told me and said,

1106
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: that may be the most impressive young man I have

1107
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: ever stood in front of. He was in love with Dak.

1108
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: After that little session with Kellen Moore getting hurt, he

1109
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: got practice time and now he's the backup quarterback. And

1110
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: to me, that was very telling, first that Fredo picked

1111
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: up on it, and second that it's proven to be true.

1112
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 1: But but I'm not that worried about Dak not handling it.

1113
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: It's just weird karma. It's just to bring up the

1114
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: maybe one of the top five worst moments in the

1115
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: kid's life, and here comes so what it's the team

1116
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: that had happened against. So it's just weird karma. This week,

1117
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: this guy gonna talk about media questions and bringing up stuff.

1118
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: I've been here with him. It's sort of you're going

1119
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: in for surgery and you're gonna miss me when I died.

1120
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: Don't say that. You don't say that. I mean, now,

1121
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't like that. It's just weird, it's not. It's

1122
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: it's a celebration of sorts. I think that most people

1123
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: look at I said of sorts, a celebration of sorts

1124
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: and that, and I said yes, and I've said dickens

1125
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to curse, so you have to

1126
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: use dick you got. But but what's the celebration of

1127
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: So it's like what happened and where he is now.

1128
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: Even the most ardent Dack fan observer outside of his

1129
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: family did not see this coming. When you saw him

1130
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: on that field, everything that went through all of our minds,

1131
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: he's tears coming down his eyes. And we know we

1132
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: went through with the contract. We nobody went through with

1133
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: his brother uh dying of suicide and his own depression.

1134
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: And you just felt for the kid, you know, And

1135
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: and just a full three one hundred and sixty five

1136
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: days later, he's playing out of his mind the best football.

1137
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: It's something to talk about. I'm sorry. I would just

1138
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: about it and let it pass. It's an eerie date.

1139
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, you're right about that, but I don't.

1140
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's in a profession where there's people

1141
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: that are commenting on everything he's doing every single moment,

1142
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: and so that's he knows, that's part of the deal.

1143
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of interesting that Brett Fire

1144
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: if he has his weekly radio show on on Serious XM.

1145
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: He talked about how he played with like a broken

1146
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: finger and how he thinks with Dak that maybe that

1147
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: injury helped him kind of because of what Clarence mentioned,

1148
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: all this stuff he was dealing with where he could

1149
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: just focus in on I got like every day the rehab,

1150
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: like I gotta do this day, I do this, I

1151
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: can do this, and it kind of takes your mind

1152
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: away from a lot of the contract, other things going

1153
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: on your life and stuff like that. That overcoming that

1154
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: might have actually made him even stronger. The New York

1155
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: Giants Game number five Sunday at three twenty five at

1156
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: AT and T Stadium. U Cowboys are one of twelve

1157
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: teams that are three and one. They will more than

1158
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: likely get to four and one. Giants gonna get hurt

1159
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: in this game. They're gonna smoke him. Dak loves pound

1160
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: in the Giants. I mean it's his favorite team. You

1161
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: don't think the Giants have a little momentum coming off

1162
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: that Saints. I like that quarterback. I'm telling you, I

1163
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: see why they've been patient with that kid. I think

1164
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: he can play and someday he may be something. But

1165
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: I think Mike McCarthy I thought this when we were

1166
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: sitting in the postgame press conference with Mike mcarthy. I

1167
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: thought that for him, he probably loved the Giants came

1168
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: back and won that game, because it gives you something

1169
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: that you can should tell the team as opposed to

1170
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: the Giants come in there. Let's say they lose that game,

1171
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: get blown out by the Saints, and you're just kinding no, guys,

1172
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: we can't sleep on these guys. And everyone's like, yeah, okay,

1173
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: coach whatever. But the fact that they came back, he

1174
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: played the way they did against the Saints, It's one

1175
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: of those things that I'm sure he was like, good

1176
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: now we got some, we got some. These are some

1177
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: things we gotta worry about. Prior to that, it was like,

1178
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: is Joe Judge who's calling plays? Is jg gonna keep calling?

1179
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: I mean it was Sakelon Barkley is starting to look

1180
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: a little bit like his old self. It sounded like

1181
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: a mess up there. If you read the papers two

1182
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: weeks into the well, that's part of the fun. They

1183
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: are one in three closing I agree closing thought tonight,

1184
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: though I founded it. You know, I don't know if

1185
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: you guys followed the NFL power rankings that come out

1186
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: every week and everybody does them. The Cowboys are anywhere

1187
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: from five to eleven in them, and the other three

1188
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: nfcast teams are between twenty five and thirty two. When

1189
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: the last time that happened, one team is way up,

1190
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, and the other three are way down there.

1191
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: Probably several times when the Cowboys with thirteen three decal year,

1192
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: the NFC's was bad. I went in Louisiana swamp on

1193
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: you for a minute there, Yeah you did, you did?

1194
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, you're from not from around here? Like,

1195
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: didn't they go and defeated in the Changai year? Yeah?

1196
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: Like that, I mean I've seen several times. Yes, yes,

1197
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: and they did it and they got fired. Yeah. Yeah,

1198
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: Hey we gotta go. Uh thanks for letting me talk

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01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,479
Speaker 1: a little Cowboys with you guys again. Tomorrow showed us back.

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01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: Jerry Epstein from USA today will join us along with

1201
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: the great Nick Eatman. Four o'clock is when we stick

1202
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: our tea in the ground and go that's our foursome tomorrow.

1203
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: Thanks guys. We'll do it again next week with all

1204
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: of you. Thanks for listening. This is medium Ash. Tell

1205
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,600
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