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Speaker 1: Show will come up with the pull question, play of

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Speaker 1: the day, stat of the day, and once again a

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Speaker 1: lot to recap. When John Gruden was the Monday night

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Speaker 1: football analyst, his unusual style was part of his charm,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes he didn't make sense, but he wasn't amusing

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Speaker 1: in the process. The content of his emails that have

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Speaker 1: been revealed in recent reports are something entirely different. Nothing

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Speaker 1: funny about what he said cruel and ignorant stereotypes. And

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Speaker 1: Gruden resigned as the Vegas Raiders head coach last night.

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Speaker 1: He had been handed the keys to the franchise. That

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Speaker 1: was a ten year contract worth one hundred million dollars.

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Speaker 1: He had as much leeway autonomy as any coach in

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Speaker 1: the league. And it's a pretty dramatic fall for a

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Speaker 1: coach that has a Super Bowl ring and was once

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Speaker 1: considered an offensive innovator. Also, you know, you can look

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Speaker 1: at the irony of he would have been doing Monday

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Speaker 1: Night football last night when these emails surfaced, and it

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Speaker 1: broke during the game. Adam Schefter had to come on

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Speaker 1: and say that John Gruden was resigning, not fired, but resigning,

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Speaker 1: And we'll deal with the semantics with Mike Florio Pro

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Speaker 1: football talk coming up in a little bit. Gruden's ugly

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Speaker 1: emails saw the light of day because of a lawsuit

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Speaker 1: involving workplace misconduct with the Washington Football Tea. It revealed

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Speaker 1: a culture of disrespect in this particular league circle, and

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Speaker 1: Gruden has taken the fall this week. But it's a

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Speaker 1: warning shot to others. You might like that old school football,

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Speaker 1: but a certain kind of old school locker room speech

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Speaker 1: has no place in today's sports world, and John Gruden

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Speaker 1: pays the price. Here was John Gruden yesterday during his

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Speaker 1: morning press conference. I've learned a lot, and again I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to rehash the event again. I think I

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Speaker 1: feel very good about the things I have learned. I

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Speaker 1: also feel really good about what I stand for, as

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Speaker 1: I said yesterday, and I'll be happy to talk about football,

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Speaker 1: but I'll just leave it at that. If you go

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Speaker 1: back to Friday, John Gruden probably thought he weathered a storm.

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Speaker 1: His team three and one going into a home game

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Speaker 1: against the Bears. Probably thought, I'm gonna be four and

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Speaker 1: one and winning coaches don't get fired. I'll be able

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Speaker 1: to survive this. I was told on Friday, late Friday

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Speaker 1: afternoon that this was a slow That's how it was

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Speaker 1: framed by a source close to this, a slow play.

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Speaker 1: That there are other emails coming out now. My source

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Speaker 1: didn't know the magnitude of those emails, but it focused

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Speaker 1: on John Gruden, to which I responded in a text

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Speaker 1: by saying, well, why is this about John Gruden and

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Speaker 1: not the Washington football team. Six hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 1: emails are being viewed and John Gruden. That information is

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Speaker 1: coming out and I'm going to talk to Mike Florio

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Speaker 1: about this. Why were they leaked? I'm just curious about it,

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Speaker 1: just being fair to a situation. The stuff that's attached

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Speaker 1: to John Gruden. You can't keep him employed. But what's

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Speaker 1: going on with the NFL? It's their investigation. Who were

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Speaker 1: they investigating? Because I thought this was about Daniel Snyder

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Speaker 1: and the Washington football team. John Gruden's collateral damage here

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Speaker 1: and did he quit? Was he going to be fired

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Speaker 1: the NFL? I was told could not fire him because

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Speaker 1: this happened when he was an ESPN employee. Is there

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Speaker 1: a settlement? Probably so for John to walk off into

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Speaker 1: the sunset? But what he said, you can't stand for that.

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Speaker 1: I do think that John thought, if that's the worst

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Speaker 1: I can survive this. We're gonna be four and one.

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Speaker 1: We'll move on. We'll be other things for people to

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Speaker 1: of Pro Football Talk. He's a lawyer, and I'm curious

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Speaker 1: from his standpoint of how does this surface, how does

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Speaker 1: and he's corresponding with somebody in the Washington football team organization.

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Speaker 1: Is he involved in this? Because I was told there's

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Speaker 1: at all. And we haven't even gotten to Daniel Snyder

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Speaker 1: because I'm thinking, you know, Gruden said this, Did anybody

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Speaker 1: else say anything? Anybody else on that email trail? But

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Speaker 1: I was told some people should be nervous who were

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Speaker 1: But that's how this started. And there's six hundred and

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Speaker 1: And once again I want to go back and say

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Speaker 1: what John said is wrong and he should have been fired.

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Speaker 1: He's collateral damage. You know, he got caught up in something.

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Speaker 1: You know, is this a witch hunt? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but he did say it, and he was still representing

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Speaker 1: the league, working on Monday Night football with ESPN. Now

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Speaker 1: there's a time frame that's tricky too, that when John

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Speaker 1: he was corresponding with, Bruce Allen, he was still at

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Speaker 1: the Washington football team. So that's under the NFL umbrella.

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Speaker 1: If John had emails that were similar in sound and feel,

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Speaker 1: then that might have been something that John was not

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Speaker 1: going to be able to escape, but the league firing him.

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of things that are attached to this.

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Speaker 1: But John Gruden couldn't escape this, and I think he

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Speaker 1: thought if I survived the weekend, we win the game.

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Speaker 1: I apologized to Demorris Smith. Yeah. I may have said

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Speaker 1: get bad quickly when you realized that he was basically

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Speaker 1: offending just about everybody, and Mark Davis had you know,

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Speaker 1: he had to fire him, or at least go in

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Speaker 1: and say, John, I think you need to resign because

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Speaker 1: you can't be a distraction and Gruden was not a

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Speaker 1: great coach. Okay, he's a character and he's just over

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Speaker 1: five hundred for his career. I didn't think he did

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Speaker 1: a good job with the Raiders, but he's owed sixty

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Speaker 1: million dollars. I was told last night by a source,

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Speaker 1: the NFL just gifted, that was the expression. Gifted the

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Speaker 1: Raiders and out with John Gruden. But you know, the

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Speaker 1: Raiders can't back John Gruden because this is one of

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Speaker 1: the more cultural diversified organizations. If you go back to

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Speaker 1: you know, American head coaches. You don't want to undo

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Speaker 1: all those great moments decades of you were ahead of

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Speaker 1: Al Davis looked at everybody the same. He just wanted

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Speaker 1: to win, baby, and I think Mark Davis as his son,

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Speaker 1: don't undo everything that your dad did. And that's why

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Speaker 1: you have to get rid of John Gruden. But I

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Speaker 1: couldn't help but think this is happening on Monday night,

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Speaker 1: and John maybe would have still been in the booth

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Speaker 1: on Monday night football when you have this breaking news

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Speaker 1: mclub and you have a poll question today a bit

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Speaker 1: of a left turn, but off of a last night's

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Speaker 1: game when Lamar Jackson was walking up the field, they

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Speaker 1: were chanting MVP of the last four MVPs, who hads

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Speaker 1: the best chance to win another one this season? And

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Speaker 1: you kind of generally say it's hard to win twice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers packards are winning. Patrick Mahomes has huge numbers,

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Speaker 1: but they're struggling. Lamar Jackson top ten in passing and

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Speaker 1: didn't look great the first three quarters. He looked unbelievable

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. By the way, all the people

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Speaker 1: who don't think Lamar Jackson can pass, you probably didn't

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Speaker 1: he can't pass, they'll never come back. Well, he can

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Speaker 1: still pass a little bit. Yeah, he still has to

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Speaker 1: I would say Brady right now because he's got fifteen touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: Lamar's got eight touchdowns, three interceptions. You know he's dynamic. Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how good that team is going to be.

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Speaker 1: But even if Tom Brady has like all sorts of records,

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Speaker 1: mean he won't. You always say it's a narrative award.

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Speaker 1: still the defense hasn't been great, injury prone, and Brady

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Speaker 1: good story you can tell though. But back to Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: that was an incredible performance. Accuracy. He's dynamic, you know

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Speaker 1: rush for a hundred yards last night. But here's John

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Speaker 1: Harball talking about Lamar Jackson's performance. Well, the greatest performances

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. But it starts with Lamar and he

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Speaker 1: deserves the credit. The Ravens scored touchdowns on their final

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Speaker 1: not a great division. You had a couple of kicks,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Give credit to the Ravens, because that's a

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Speaker 1: big whim. What other poll questions? Okay, I like that one,

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Speaker 1: So Bruten chose to quit. Okay, But why is the

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Speaker 1: NFL out to get John Gruden? Well, John Bruden is

429
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Speaker 1: not the kind of guy that's gonna have a lot

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Speaker 1: of friends who rushed to his defense. Now. I know

431
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Speaker 1: some people have, but for the most part, John Gruden

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Speaker 1: is a guy that the league office doesn't like. And

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Speaker 1: as someone that the league office doesn't like, I can

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Speaker 1: relate to that. But the thing is, I don't work

435
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Speaker 1: for the league office. And he's always complained about something.

436
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: He's always been, you know, doesn't like this rule, It

437
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: doesn't like this procedure. Openly defied the mask requirement last

438
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Speaker 1: year in the regular season games and was fined multiple

439
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Speaker 1: times for it. He just become a guy that they

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Speaker 1: don't like, and now they had this fall into their lap.

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Speaker 1: And again, it all may have started with this idea

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Speaker 1: we can save to Morris Smith. But then once you

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Speaker 1: start looking more and more, you realize, hey, you know what,

444
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Speaker 1: we also can bring down John Bruden. And all it

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Speaker 1: takes is one person in a high position of power

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Speaker 1: or influence who doesn't like somebody. And if you've got

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Speaker 1: the ammunition that John Bruden has given to you through

448
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Speaker 1: his own actions, it all comes together and the dominoes

449
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Speaker 1: fall and John Gruden's done. He's Mike Florio Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Talk Live co host and of course contributor for NBC's

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Speaker 1: Football Night in America. Career wise, what's next for John Gruden. Well,

452
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Speaker 1: he's only fifty eight years old, so I don't think

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Speaker 1: he ever coaches again at the NFL level. I think

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Speaker 1: it would be hard to sell him as a college

455
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Speaker 1: coach somewhere, even if he would have the patience to

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Speaker 1: coach in college. You know, he was always very good

457
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Speaker 1: as a broadcaster. I don't know that a network hires

458
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Speaker 1: him but one year, two years, three years, I don't know.

459
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Speaker 1: But time passes, wounds, heal. A lot of it depends

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Speaker 1: upon what he does to earn redemption, to earn an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we've seen people come back from all

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Speaker 1: sorts of things. And you know, I can't rule out anything.

463
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Speaker 1: It all depends on what he wants to do. He

464
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Speaker 1: may decide I'm done with this crap. I'm done. I've

465
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Speaker 1: made enough money. I've reached my limit where i can

466
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Speaker 1: just go live my life, and I'm just going to

467
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Speaker 1: go live my life and leave all this crap behind me.

468
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: I could see him having that attitude. I mentioned about

469
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Speaker 1: the Colts with Carson Wentz and the number of snapsy

470
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Speaker 1: as to take the percentage that will move a second

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Speaker 1: round pick to a first round pick conditional. If you're

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Speaker 1: the Colts and you are you know, five or six

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Speaker 1: wins after twelve or thirteen games, can you see an

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Speaker 1: organizational tank where you have a healthy scratch with Carson

475
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Speaker 1: Wentz so you keep that first undraft pick. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that it would be that blatant. I think Carson

477
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Speaker 1: Wentz would be injured. I think that's how they would

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Speaker 1: do it. I think it's a hard sell to your

479
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: fan base if you just fold the tents because you

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Speaker 1: want to keep your higher pick, Although most fans would

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Speaker 1: understand it, we get into the whole integrity the game.

482
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: You know, every year, when I see the draft order

483
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Speaker 1: starting to lock In. I say, hey, what is the

484
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: team that's got two wins doing trying to win on

485
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Speaker 1: the final Sunday of the season. Look what it did

486
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Speaker 1: to the Giants. They beat Washington a couple of years

487
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,239
Speaker 1: ago in a great overtime meaningless game and Washington got

488
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: Chase Young instead of the Giants because of it. So

489
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Speaker 1: and the NFL will say, oh no, no, every game

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Speaker 1: has integrity, and so I think the Colts, if they

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Speaker 1: did it Dan, it would be more subtle than hey,

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna bench Carson Wentz because we don't want

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Speaker 1: to have the Eagles a higher pick. I know you've

494
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: mentioned this before and mentioned it recently. At what point

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Speaker 1: do the Browns go is Odell Beckham worth it? Like

496
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Speaker 1: they don't need him, like they're a running team. He's

497
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: not healthy. I think it brings out the worst in

498
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield because he's always trying to acquiesce too Odell

499
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Speaker 1: Beckham to keep him happy, get his touches. But do

500
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Speaker 1: you think that Odell Beckham is on the trade block

501
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: or could be? Well, I think I think it should be.

502
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: I think it should be, And maybe the Browns are

503
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: trying to be subtle about it and I can't imagine

504
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior wanting to be there when you consider

505
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: they scored forty two points against the Chargers on Sunday

506
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Speaker 1: and he had two catches for twenty yards, and for

507
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: the first time that I can remember during his time

508
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Speaker 1: with the Browns, there was no question posed to Baker

509
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Speaker 1: Mayfield after the game about it. There was no question

510
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: posed to coach Kevin Stefanski about it. He become an

511
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: afterthought and that's not what Odell Beckham Junior wants to be. Dan.

512
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Speaker 1: I think it's time for them to get what they

513
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: can and move on. You didn't even see on Sunday

514
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: and effort to incorporate him into the game plan last year.

515
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: Stefanski would get him. So. I remember the game against

516
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. He was running the ball, he caught a

517
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: pass thrown by Jarvis Slander. He was really involved. They

518
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: know they don't need to do that. The team has

519
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: evolved past Odell Beckham Junior. That was a John Dorsey experiment.

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00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: They need to find somebody else who thinks they are

521
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: a game breaking receiver away from being whatever it is

522
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: they're trying to be, and get the most forum and

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00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: move on. It's a fourteen million dollars salary. I think

524
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Speaker 1: it makes sense to move on. But if you're Aaron

525
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: Rodgers and you want to find out how much clout

526
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: you have in the front office, Wow, is this where

527
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers goes, Hey, I want to be involved in

528
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: these situations? You know I got Randall Cobb. Now I

529
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: want to go for the big ticket item. How about

530
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: what bringing Obj? That would be something I don't know

531
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: the Packers cap situation off the top of my head.

532
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: But again, you got to absorb the balance of the

533
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars salary and you can come up, but

534
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: you can create caps. But you can wave a few

535
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: magic wands and restructure if you really want to do it.

536
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: But whoever takes on Odo Beckham Junior has to understand

537
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: that you're taking on Odell Beckham Junior. You're taking on

538
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: the persona, You're taking on the expectation. And maybe that

539
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: has died down given the injury he suffered last year

540
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: and the fact that he is basically irrelevant in Cleveland.

541
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Speaker 1: But so much of the problem in twenty nineteen was

542
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: we got to get the ball to OBJ. We got

543
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: to get the ball to OBJ, and no, you throw

544
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: the ball to the guy who's open. If you've focus

545
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: too much on one guy, you're going to disrupt your

546
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: entire offense. So it's got to be a team that

547
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: really feels like they need that number one receiver, and

548
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: they already have it in Green Bandavante Adams. Great stuff, Mike,

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00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: thank you, We appreciate your time. Thanks Dane. About Mike

550
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: Florio Pro Football Talk, I thought that that would be

551
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: interesting if Aaron Rodgers really wanted to find out where

552
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: he stood in the front office. And Aaron Rodgers has

553
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: that ability to be able to say to OBJ, Hey,

554
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: I'll get you the ball when I get you the ball,

555
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: and you're my second option because Vante Adams is my

556
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: number one guy. You know, Tom Brady did this with

557
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown because I think we all thought, oh my god,

558
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: what's Brady doing bringing in Antonio Brown. But he believed

559
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: in Antonio Brown. And you haven't heard anything from Antonio

560
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: Brown other than he's playing great. There's only a couple

561
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks who could probably do. That's why it was

562
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: a bad mixture for Baker Mayfield because here's a young,

563
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Speaker 1: impressionable Hey, I'm a number one pick, number one overall.

564
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: I want to succeed. I want to have everybody like me.

565
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: I want friends here. I got Obj. I gotta keep

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Speaker 1: him happy. And every time I'll watch the Browns, he

567
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: would force the ball to Obj, and I kept thinking,

568
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: you have a good offensive line, you can run the football,

569
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Speaker 1: don't do this. And eventually they stopped doing that, and

570
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: they're a better football team I think because of that.

571
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: And when you watch the game against the Chargers, you

572
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: forget that Obj was on the field. I mean, that

573
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, but he hasn't been relevant for a long time.

574
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: Fourteen point five million, that's a lot. But if you're

575
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: Rogers and this is your swan song and you want

576
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: to win one more, can you go to management and say, hey,

577
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: you bring him in all handle him? Yeah? Plong, that's

578
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: a toughie. I don't know. If I'm a Packer fan

579
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Speaker 1: listening out there, I would sign up for that. Like

580
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Speaker 1: if you could click a button and put Odell Beckham

581
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: on your team. I know they're no downside. Well I

582
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't say that. I know that there doesn't obvious downside.

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00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: If I'm a Packer fan, I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 1: clicking on that one. Yeah, Well, I'm just curious because

585
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Speaker 1: if you're a quarterback and you got uh, you know,

586
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: a little bit of clout in the meeting rooms, like

587
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: if you want to find out where you stand. We

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00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, because we went, oh, you know, Aaron wants

589
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: to bring in Randall Com. Well, we were okay with that.

590
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: It's like, that's not a big deal. Nobody else wanted

591
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: Randall com. We'll bring him in. And then all of

592
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: a sudden, you go, hey, guys, can I talk to

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Speaker 1: you for a minute. Sure, Aaron, I don't only make

594
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: a trade. You know, we can take him. The Browns

595
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: will trade him out of the AFC, you know, trade him,

596
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, to the NFC. We give him a third

597
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: round pick, and uh, you know we absorbed the salary.

598
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: What do you guys think? I'll hang up and listen. Yeah, Paul,

599
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: did you see the stat on Antonio Brown this week?

600
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: He's the fastest in age to nine hundred catches. He

601
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: missed two seasons. He basically missed the twenty nineteen season

602
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: and most of the twenty season. If you porade his numbers,

603
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: he'd be easily at eleven hundred catches right now, not

604
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: nine hundred. He was cruising yeah. See. And that's the

605
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: thing when you talk about like Odell Beckham Junior or something,

606
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: and he completely disappears during that stretch, then Antonio Brown

607
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: had he never disappeared. It was like you knew he

608
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: was the guy and he still put up you know,

609
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five yards a game or something. Yeah, yeah, machine, Yeah, mclovin.

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Speaker 1: What if you're a young team, like Justin Fields and

611
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: the Bears, they always need a running back. Are you

612
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Speaker 1: wide receiver? Are you scared to bringing Odell with a

613
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: yall developing quarterback, because then you're just doing the same thing.

614
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: Justin Fields is going to feel like I gotta throw

615
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: him the ball, which is a better option. I guess

616
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: you know you got Alan Robinson, but they don't have

617
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: any weapons whatsoever. But if you're ob J, you're probably

618
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: saying it, don't send me there. I don't want to

619
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Speaker 1: go there, Like I want to go where I can win,

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00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: where I can be on national TV. You don't want

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Speaker 1: to go disappear. He'll disappear even further if he goes

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Speaker 1: to the Bears. Yeah, Paul, you talk about a player

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Speaker 1: you had a better week's pay would be in the

624
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 1: Hall of fame someday after his third year. Odell Beckham

625
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: was a pro bowler as a rookie, both as returning

626
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: and receiving. He was averaging one hundred catches and twelve

627
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Speaker 1: touchdowns a year for his first three seasons. And it's

628
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: cooled off. Yeah, all right, we'll take a break. We'll

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Speaker 1: settle on our poll question. Phone calls are welcome. A

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Speaker 1: little bit later on, Justin Herbert or the Chargers will

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Speaker 1: join us and we'll dive a little deeper into Ben

632
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Speaker 1: Simmons coming back reporting for duty with the Philadelphia seventy

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Speaker 1: six ers. Awkward Play of the Day is next year

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Speaker 1: who ranks in the top eight in both passing and

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Speaker 1: is Stephen A. Smith. However, he's tied for second in

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Speaker 1: fumbles and we saw that on display last night. But

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Speaker 1: that fourth quarter, that's one of those you put it

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Speaker 1: remember Lamar Jackson? Oh yeah, yeah, And then you start

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Speaker 1: to show the highlights you're gonna show that fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: with what he did with the cold chiasmcleven. How good

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Speaker 1: are the Ravens though they barely beat the Lions. They

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Speaker 1: came back against the Chiefs. They came back last night.

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Speaker 1: But they're four and one. Yeah, a lot of injuries,

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Speaker 1: you know, with no running backs. That's why I thought,

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Speaker 1: just have an empty backfield with Lamar Jackson and just

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Speaker 1: put the pressure on the defense. But now you have

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Speaker 1: to win these games. Those ugly wins, they're still wins.

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Speaker 1: That's why when we go, oh my god, the Packers

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Speaker 1: barely beat the Bengals, they beat the Bengals. That's what's important.

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Speaker 1: So when they get to twelve wins this year and

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Speaker 1: those wins that they had. They had a couple of

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Speaker 1: those wins. They don't judge your victories like we do

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Speaker 1: in college, like when you go, oh my god, they

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Speaker 1: barely beat Appalachian State. No, you just win. That's all

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Speaker 1: it matters. In the NFL, you don't get style points

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Speaker 1: in college football. You're like I don't know. They barely

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Speaker 1: got by that team. By the way, somebody has to

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Speaker 1: win the Heisman this year. And I'm looking at you

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Speaker 1: know who the possible Heisman favorites were when we started

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Speaker 1: the season. Here you go, Spencer Rattler, he was the favorite.

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Speaker 1: He's benched. DJ You then it's Bryce Young, CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 1: at Ohio State, JT. Daniels at Georgia, Sam Howe at

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. Right now, it's probably Bryce Young and Matt

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Speaker 1: and Alabama will be playing for a national title or

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Speaker 1: in the final four. Spencer Rattler lost his job, Clemson

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Speaker 1: J T. Daniels non discrip, George's defense is the star,

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Speaker 1: Sam Howe not doing anything. Maybe you get somebody, maybe

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Speaker 1: But Fritzie had a interesting suggestion for the Heisman Trophy

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Speaker 1: of what the Heisman Trophy this year would look like

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Speaker 1: because we can't come up with a favorite, and uh,

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Speaker 1: got it, yeah, me, yeah, Or maybe you just have

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Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, Paul, it's such a wonky year.

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young's in the lead after a loss. Usually any

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Speaker 1: type of loss drops you for the heisman. Bijean Robinson,

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Speaker 1: helped because that was on national TV, but you know

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Speaker 1: poll question we're gonna go with. So I put up

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Speaker 1: which of the last four MVPs has the best chance

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Speaker 1: Then lastly by a long distance, Patrick Mahomes, we have

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Speaker 1: a cults question. If you are looking like you're out

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Speaker 1: your first round pick per the Eagles trade. Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: if you're the coach though, But if you're Frank Reich

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Speaker 1: and you need to you know, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: lose games. Yeah, but Frank has to listen to the

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Speaker 1: let's let's continue to see what we have. Let's build

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Speaker 1: momentum into next season. If I worked for an organization

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Speaker 1: have total confidence in, Hey, they're gonna get me somebody,

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Speaker 1: and that's gonna be very valuable. But you know, you're

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Speaker 1: from this. The Eagles already have their pick, the Dolphins pick,

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Speaker 1: three first round picks for the Eagles. Yeah, PAULI do

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Speaker 1: you think though, maybe you don't fight for the draft

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Speaker 1: at least in October. It's not who knows what it'll

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Speaker 1: be an April. Now, what else do you have? Mcloban,

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Speaker 1: Maybe for the second hour Okay, I still have that

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Speaker 1: If they lose. Are the MLB playoffs over for most

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Speaker 1: of our listener? No, I don't think so. But it

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers here and you know, trying to hold on

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Speaker 1: they blanked the Tigers back in the twenty twelve World Series.

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Speaker 1: And here are the Dodgers. They've been shut out multiple

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Speaker 1: Divisional era, and that came with the twenty thirteen NLCS

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Speaker 1: with the Cardinals Games two and six. Yes, mclen is

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Speaker 1: there enough goodwill left over from last year to make

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Speaker 1: if they did lose it? Okay? Yeah, probably so. I

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Speaker 1: mean immediately it's going to sting. But you know, how

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Speaker 1: about we address that if the Giants win tonight? Because

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Dodgers win tonight and we go

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Speaker 1: to a fifth and deciding game. By the way, John

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Speaker 1: Gruden's son is on the Raider's staff, and despite his

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Speaker 1: according to Adam Schefter, and his son is accused of

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Speaker 1: no wrongdoing. Interesting though that, given the way that John

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Speaker 1: on the situation, but it's not affecting his job status

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Speaker 1: with the team, so to reconfirm, they're not dropping a deuce.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Tom, thank you, thank you. I didn't even

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Speaker 1: them away, mile away. Yep, yep, te ball. That's t

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Speaker 1: Could do to bathroom humor, we'd have to come from me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: There may be an hour two poll question perfectly timed.

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Speaker 1: Would you rather be a junior or a deuce? Uh,

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