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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome into NRG Stadium. In the Hunday

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio Studio, Mark Vandermyer, John Harris with you to

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Speaker 1: recap the start of rookie mini camp. Johnny, they're often running,

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Speaker 1: and it was so good to get to the Houston

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Speaker 1: and it was so good to see Texans at work.

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Speaker 1: And I say Texans at work because not too many

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Speaker 1: familiar faces really, I mean you had forty five plus

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Speaker 1: seen before. Obviously Jester Weah and a few guys like that,

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Speaker 1: but it was mostly new faces and it was fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was definitely fun to get out there and see

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Speaker 1: practice again and just just football practice. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that's the good thing. When you were with the college university.

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Speaker 1: Spring practice takes place in late February, March, maybe on April.

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Speaker 1: Like you get that it's scratched a whole lot earlier.

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Speaker 1: You gotta wait on the win in May for the

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Speaker 1: rookies to come in and then the Vets we'll get going,

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Speaker 1: I think coach said today May twentieth. Ye, so they'll start,

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Speaker 1: they'll get the full ninety man roster together. But I

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Speaker 1: love I love this process because you got so much

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Speaker 1: going on you. Like you mentioned, there are a few

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Speaker 1: guys that are eligible fourth that were in the building

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Speaker 1: last year. Guys like Stephen Mitchell, Davin Bellamy, got well

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Speaker 1: practice squad, guys that you can have that have eligibility

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Speaker 1: case Keenom did that back in twenty thirteen. And then

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Speaker 1: you got your draft picks. Everybody wants to see them.

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Speaker 1: Then you've got college free agents, guys that have been

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Speaker 1: signed that the official list went out today, so we

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Speaker 1: can actually talk about who's on that list. And then

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Speaker 1: you've got guys that are trying out, guys looking to

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Speaker 1: just find any morsel of opportunity to be able to

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Speaker 1: make the night, just make the ninety man roster. And

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Speaker 1: I think of Corey Moore. Corey Moore was a triot guy,

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Speaker 1: and Corey Moretz I remember seeing on a list. I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, Corey Moore, I remember from Georgia on

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Speaker 1: a trial list, gets on a ninety man roster, eventually

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Speaker 1: find his way onto the team and they're playing big

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Speaker 1: minutes and in a big role for this team for

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Speaker 1: a few years before you know, last year, then ended

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Speaker 1: up with the colts, so he's a guy that came

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Speaker 1: through that tryout process. It can happen going through that

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Speaker 1: particular process. So you've got all of that merging into

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Speaker 1: these two three days a rookie mini camp. So I

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Speaker 1: find it very very interesting. Yeah, they're not hitting anybody either,

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Speaker 1: not doing anything other than you know, really going through

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Speaker 1: a passing camp so to speak. Because Bill O'Brien has said,

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Speaker 1: but I just love that cross section of all that

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Speaker 1: going on. Well, after practice was over, Bill O'Brien gave

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Speaker 1: us a taste of what he was seeing. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit like, you know, an orientation to

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Speaker 1: training camp. It's not training camp, but we're getting them

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Speaker 1: ready for that type of routine. Get up early in

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Speaker 1: the morning, you know, get something to eat, take care

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Speaker 1: through practice. So it's definitely an orientation type of schedule.

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Speaker 1: And these guys are doing a good job. It's a

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Speaker 1: great group of guys. They were, you know, ready to

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Speaker 1: go last night, wide eyed. You know, everybody, all those

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Speaker 1: a nice job of paying attention. Came out here today

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Speaker 1: and worked hard, and obviously, Johnny you managed at the

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Speaker 1: tryout guys. They want to be part of that ninety

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Speaker 1: man roster. The undrafted free agents already are basically but

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Speaker 1: Bill all Bryant said, being on that ninety man roster

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Speaker 1: don't sell that short. Yeah, everybody wants to be on

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Speaker 1: the fifty three, but the Texans have had some opportunities

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Speaker 1: After the fourth preseason game, I think anybody that's on

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Speaker 1: the ninety man roster, I mean I did. I talked

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Speaker 1: look at are the sixty five guys that are here

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Speaker 1: right now before we add these guys on Monday, twenty

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Speaker 1: eight of those guys are undrafted. So think about that.

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight guys out of the sixty five guys that

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they were necessarily undrafted Texans, but undrafted somewhere,

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Speaker 1: the messages the draft is important, like don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: but it's a small portion of the roster. Building. You

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Speaker 1: have seven draft picks, you have thirty five guys out here.

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Speaker 1: So if you're on the ninety man roster, I think

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Speaker 1: we've proven as an organization if it's what you do

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Speaker 1: what you do when you enter the building. From that

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Speaker 1: you improve on a daily basis? All about improvement and

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Speaker 1: we've had plenty of guys over the years that were

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Speaker 1: not drafted that that made our football team and made

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Speaker 1: big place for us. Bill O'Brien after the rookie Minicamp

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Speaker 1: practice today, and it should be noted that he ended

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Speaker 1: the media session with Go Rockets because it's a huge

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Speaker 1: game for the Rockets tonight, So Go Rockets. Good luck

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Speaker 1: to them as they try to stay alive in the

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Speaker 1: second round series. In fourth Game seven at Golden State's

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Speaker 1: not going to be easy. I don't care who's in

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Speaker 1: who's out. This is tough stop great players on both sides,

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fun to watch this one tonight.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts on that? Of course I do.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for Game six. Okay, Okay, here's here's the

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Speaker 1: here's my real quick thought about Game six. There's more

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Speaker 1: pressure on the Rockets tonight than has been in the

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Speaker 1: Rockets in a very long time because of who's out

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Speaker 1: for Golden because Durant is out. And the talk was

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Speaker 1: our talk last offseason. If Chris Paul is playing, they

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Speaker 1: win the series. Well, Durant's now out and all your

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Speaker 1: for it. There's a boatload, a boatload of pressure on

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Speaker 1: the Rockets. It's I think pressure on both teams, and

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Speaker 1: you know who's got more pressure. I love this kind

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Speaker 1: and you know, you you were an athlete or still are,

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Speaker 1: I guess, but you've played at a high level of competition.

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Speaker 1: You know that once you're out there slugging it, you know,

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Speaker 1: And I think pressure comes into play with free throws

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Speaker 1: be really interesting to see how things unfold, particularly in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. If it's close, we'll find out tonight.

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Speaker 1: All right, more on rookie Mini camp, Johnny, Let's get

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Speaker 1: into some of the nitty gritty here as to what

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Speaker 1: we saw today, and we'll get into some of the

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Speaker 1: tryout guys later. However, I know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: like I said, you have over forty five guys out

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Speaker 1: And yeah, there are some guys that we know, but

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Speaker 1: I know they're young, but it looked pretty believable. Now.

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Speaker 1: really I wish I could have gone back, and I

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Speaker 1: wish Jay would have played, so I could have gone

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that you could use in a lot

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Speaker 1: different ways. So a guy like that, how many times

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Speaker 1: we heard Bill say, hey, the more you can do, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you you're more apt to bring to your ninety man

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Speaker 1: Jordan plays quarterback, and I think he does he's a

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Speaker 1: a lot of different special teams. Do those kind of

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Speaker 1: things too with your ninety man roster. Right, Well, we'll

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Speaker 1: get into some of the tryout guys a little bit

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Speaker 1: more deeply later, including the guy whose name I like best,

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Speaker 1: let's go into the draft picks here, because we saw

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Speaker 1: for the first time Titus Howard, your first round draft choice.

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Speaker 1: to his strengths to be honest with you. But I

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Speaker 1: think with Xavier Crawford and Lonnie Johnson, those are a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys that are gonna come up and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna challenge especially if you're gonna play press, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: call up and challenge you and get right in your

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Speaker 1: jockstrap and force you to have to beat them. But

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be some things that they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: overcome because because the different things that are being taught.

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Speaker 1: And look, I watched enough Xavier and Lonnie to know

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Speaker 1: that they can do it. They can do some of

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Speaker 1: the things that they're gonna be asked, but just the

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Speaker 1: techniques can be different for a dB, and so it'll

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Speaker 1: take a little while, just like for Titus and for Max.

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Speaker 1: Some of those things are gonna take a little while

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Speaker 1: for it to come along. But when it does, I

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Speaker 1: think you like the paint that's going up on the campus, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: you like that. Here's the other thing to think about,

442
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Speaker 1: and this is what the coaches are watching for. They

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Speaker 1: video every aspect of the practice from every angle, right,

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Speaker 1: So they're gonna show these guys things tonight. Tomorrow morning,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna go back out there and they're gonna see

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Speaker 1: who responds even from day one to day two. Now

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Speaker 1: it takes a while, and I'll go back to this.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna tell the quick little story of

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson two years ago as a rookie and throughout OTAs.

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Speaker 1: Remember early on in OTAs, he was the third stringer.

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Speaker 1: Watson was the third stringer, and we're watching him out there.

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Speaker 1: We're thinking, hey, you know, okay, he's a great athlete Clemson.

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Speaker 1: You know it's gonna it's gonna take it. We were

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Speaker 1: saying stuff like this, right yeah. A few weeks later,

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Speaker 1: we go out there and oh my gosh, it's showtime.

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Speaker 1: Even with the third team, it's showtime. The third team

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Speaker 1: looked good. Remember the third team looked like they were

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Speaker 1: ready to beat the first team. And it really wasn't

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Speaker 1: the other guys. And you know, with all due respect,

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Speaker 1: it was Watson elevating everybody's game. That was a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That was an extreme example. It's Deshaun Watson. We all

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Speaker 1: get it. But my point is this, some guys will

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Speaker 1: respond right away. Some guys are gonna take a few

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Speaker 1: weeks to get to a certain level. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that certain level is good enough to play in

466
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Speaker 1: the NFL on a very consistent basis, But it's gotta

467
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Speaker 1: be better than what you saw today, and so on

468
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Speaker 1: and so forth. They all got to get better. I

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Speaker 1: keep saying that, but it's it sounds simple, but it's

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Speaker 1: got to be done. They gotta get that accomplished. You

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Speaker 1: just mentioned a really big thing. When when you're watching

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Speaker 1: film with your college coach and you've been in that

473
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Speaker 1: system for a while, you know it, You know it

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Speaker 1: pretty well, and you've heard it for three or four years,

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Speaker 1: so you you kind of know, you kind of know

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Speaker 1: what they're gonna say. You accept the coaching, you move on.

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Speaker 1: Now you're coming to a whole new news situation. So

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Speaker 1: take Lonnie and Xavier for instance. They go into a

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Speaker 1: room with Midge, and Midge is telling him something may

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Speaker 1: be different than what they've heard before. I'm not saying right,

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Speaker 1: wrong or different, just it's different. The way they're teaching it,

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Speaker 1: the way the Texans teaches, the way Midge teaches, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be different. And he may be pointing things out

484
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Speaker 1: that they've never even seen before. And I say seen

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Speaker 1: in air quotes, they might have seen it but they

486
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Speaker 1: haven't seen it through his eyes, and he's looking at

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Speaker 1: him saying, look, what do you see here? Look at

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Speaker 1: the split, Look at his feet, Look the way he's

489
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Speaker 1: getting off, look at his eye. Look. There might be

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Speaker 1: things that Midge is telling them that they're gonna be like, WHOA,

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Speaker 1: I've never heard that before, because that happens a lot

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Speaker 1: to two rookies that come from college where they get

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Speaker 1: great coaching, even but it's something that they've not heard before,

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Speaker 1: like WHOA, I didn't even I didn't even know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Brett Farst said he didn't even know what Nickel was

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Speaker 1: when he got from the USM to into the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So there, they're gonna be some things that they think

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Speaker 1: before has like a whole thirty exactly. So they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be some things that they see up on the screen

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Speaker 1: they go, WHOA, Okay, lock it away. Yep, next time

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Speaker 1: I go out on the field. Next time we were

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Speaker 1: able to see them see if those things have changed.

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Speaker 1: And you're right you bring up the Sean. It was

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Speaker 1: noticeable from the very first time we saw him to

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Speaker 1: the next time we saw him. WHOA, Holy smokes, this

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Speaker 1: looks a lot different. Yep, And it feel. It made

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Speaker 1: us feel really good, like, Okay, if he's taken those strides, yep,

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Speaker 1: that's a great thing. Yep. Where is it ending up?

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Speaker 1: All right? So I'm kind of inspired to form a

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Speaker 1: Leonards get Her tribute band in because the seventh round

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Speaker 1: draft choice Culton Glaspia. So the twelfth man kind of

512
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Speaker 1: reminds me of Ronnie van Zand you know, he took

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Speaker 1: off that moment, and I felt like Freebird was gonna

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Speaker 1: come on any moment. There was no music today, right,

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Speaker 1: We didn't have any music in there that I recall.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they had it during stretching and we didn't see it,

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Speaker 1: but if they did, it should have been Freebird. It

518
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Speaker 1: should have been Freebird. It should have been Leonard skinnerd

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Speaker 1: because he reminds me of Ronnie, who was a great vocalist,

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Speaker 1: outstanding charismatic leader of a band. But anyway, Glaspia, he

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Speaker 1: moves around pretty well too. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how he's gonna fit in offensively, if at all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously today he's running offense with these guys. But special teamer.

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Speaker 1: They talked about that the night they drafted him. They

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Speaker 1: also talked about playing some fullback or whatever. Possibly they

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Speaker 1: didn't have a fullback on the roster a pure fullback

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Speaker 1: last year. Is he a pure fullback? Is he a guy?

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Speaker 1: He's a special teamer who can help you on offense

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Speaker 1: in a variety of ways. I don't know how to

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Speaker 1: define him in that way, John, that's both good and bad, suppose,

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Speaker 1: But I guess he's gonna line up at fullback. But

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. Just watching him run routes, ye,

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Speaker 1: you can see the speed. And I've told the story.

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Speaker 1: I was at an A and M pro day and

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Speaker 1: I was standing behind and I almost didn't go, just

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Speaker 1: because I didn't think, you know, all the guys that

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Speaker 1: went to the combine four A and M had good numbers.

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Speaker 1: And what am I going for? Like? What am I

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Speaker 1: going to see? And I started racking my friend like

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Speaker 1: I don't know. And then I watched Glassbey run the

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Speaker 1: forty and I went, WHOA, that's a good time. That's

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Speaker 1: a really good time. And then he did his second time.

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Speaker 1: He's like plea's moving well. You could see it out

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Speaker 1: here and you could see it out on the field

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Speaker 1: today too, when he goes out to the flat he caught.

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Speaker 1: There was one time he went out to the flat,

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Speaker 1: he caught the ball and he turned up and he

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Speaker 1: was like, so he's got an opportunity in front of him,

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Speaker 1: because you're right, there is no fullback. So if the

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Speaker 1: Texans want to have a fullback out on the field,

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Speaker 1: they have an option with him. So I've seen him

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Speaker 1: run the ball too. I'm not saying that you would

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Speaker 1: in a would Hey hey, let's let's give him reps

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Speaker 1: over my other running backs. Right, but if you gotta

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Speaker 1: turn hand the ball to calling last year, that's not

556
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Speaker 1: a bad thing. You know, it's not a bad thing. Key,

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Speaker 1: He's a really good athlete. Does he affect the tight

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Speaker 1: end group being able to play some h back or whatever?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. This is gonna be an interesting topic

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Speaker 1: as we move forward. Okay, coming up, what about the

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Speaker 1: undrafteds who shined? You know, we're talking about the dbs

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Speaker 1: on the other side of that, the guys battling against them.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good looking group for a bunch of rookies, but

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Speaker 1: some of them have more experience than you think. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about them next. It's Texans Radio. It's the show

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Speaker 1: that gets you inside the building NRG Stadium here on

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Speaker 1: the Hunday Texans Radio Studio Texans All Access, Mark Van

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Speaker 1: Tramer and John Harris with you as we continue to

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Speaker 1: recap rookie Minicamp the start of it. Now, we also

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Speaker 1: have some sad news from the Texans organization. Duke edge

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Speaker 1: of four had to be put on injured reserve with

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Speaker 1: a reported injury. Like they didn't release this, but it

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Speaker 1: was out there that it was an achilles and it's terrible,

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Speaker 1: and man, this one really stings. Edge of four, who

575
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Speaker 1: looked good as a rookie in the preseason, flashed a

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Speaker 1: little bit during the regular season. You really wanted to

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Speaker 1: see what the sophomore season was going to be, like

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Speaker 1: rushing the pass or whatever else he could do. But

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be out for a while. Unfortunate because I

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Speaker 1: think he is We always say you can't have enough

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Speaker 1: pass rushers. He's that guy that has this tool box

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Speaker 1: of moves that he can he I still go back.

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Speaker 1: So he did the crossover thing. He didn't like this

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Speaker 1: crossover hesitation like basketball move on a pass rush, and

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Speaker 1: I lost my mind. I was like, I've never seen

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Speaker 1: anybody doing I've seen more guys do it since, but

587
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Speaker 1: I had never seen anybody dude up to that point,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, my gosh, this guy's just a natural, a

589
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Speaker 1: natural rushing the quarterback. So we'll see what that's gonna

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Speaker 1: what that's gonna mean for the pass rush crew going forward.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it gives an opportunity for some of

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Speaker 1: these undrafted guys that we got an opportunity to talk about.

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Speaker 1: One from a duo could be very, very intriguing. It

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Speaker 1: was a good pass rusher Jesse and a Bonham who

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Speaker 1: was a good pass rusher in a big tencil. We'll see,

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Speaker 1: but look, opportunity, will you say, next man up? No

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Speaker 1: matter where it comes from at this point. But unfortunately

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Speaker 1: that Duke Duke went out with that injury, and look,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we don't know how mad it is,

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Speaker 1: we don't the extent of it. We don't know it

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Speaker 1: was torny at surgery or whatever the case might be.

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Speaker 1: But hopefully we can get Duke back in due time

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Speaker 1: and get him back on the field of him see

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Speaker 1: what he can do. Well. Johnny have six players out

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Speaker 1: there who have been part of this organization last year,

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Speaker 1: and one of them is Davin Bellamy out of Georgia.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see if he gets into the mix somehow.

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Speaker 1: But let's talk about some of the undrafted. I'll start

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Speaker 1: here though, with these players because I mentioned the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver group at the end of the last segment. And

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Speaker 1: Stephen Mitchell, who got into a game in the regular

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Speaker 1: season game or two right right, able to help out

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Speaker 1: on special teams. And Jester Weah, who we talked about

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Speaker 1: a bunch during camp last year. You know they're out

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Speaker 1: there and they know what's going on. You know, these

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Speaker 1: guys have practiced with the vets. I meant, Sho'll look

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Speaker 1: pretty good out there to me. We obviously has shined

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Speaker 1: here before in practice situations and you want to see

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Speaker 1: it happening games for him. But they are amongst some

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Speaker 1: really intriguing names and performance performances. I'm not gonna call

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Speaker 1: it that during a practice, but just guys who show

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Speaker 1: you some things in the rookie minie camp opener. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That well, when you talk about Davin Bellamy, that was

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Speaker 1: a guy that I really liked him out of Georgia.

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Speaker 1: I was a little surprised that he didn't get drafted.

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Speaker 1: I think for damage's just got to be more consistency.

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Speaker 1: That was one of the things that Georgia Like, there

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Speaker 1: were times where Bellamy could take over a game. He

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Speaker 1: could take over, He could take over the game, really could.

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Speaker 1: I mean opposite even DeAndre Walker who got drafted by

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Speaker 1: the Titans of the fifth round. Bellamy could take over

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Speaker 1: the game. But it just wasn't consistent enough. But I

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Speaker 1: think guy like Steve Mitchell, I mean you saw that speed.

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Speaker 1: I mean he played one play in that Jaguars game,

635
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Speaker 1: I think it's a Jaguars game and Drew Pastor Fearts

636
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: there's a huge Pastor of Faert's called Texas were able

637
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: to score shortly thereafter against at Jaguars defense. So Mitchell

638
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: to me and Jester, we talked about I thought the

639
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: receivers overall looked really good today. Yeah, I thought they

640
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: looked really good. Johnny Dixon's gonna be a problem. Johnny

641
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: Dixon's gonna be a problem for people, and we knew

642
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: that coming in. Look, Johnny Dixon is not getting drafted

643
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: was a crime. I mean, it's a it's a football

644
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: draft crime. Not putting it up there with some of

645
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: the other crimes that obviously you know, Grant theft, why

646
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: he's five eleven, two hundred pounds, he runs fast, The

647
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: routes look crisp. He catches the ball well when you

648
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: watch him operate out here. If you told me, oh,

649
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: that's a third round draft choice, I would say, okay,

650
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: I know. I mean, based on what he did today,

651
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: I'd say, okay, all right, whatever. Mark, Like I said,

652
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand it. I don't think de

653
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: vere Posey, who actually looked pretty good at times before

654
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: he got the Achilles injury, I don't think he looked

655
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: any better in his rookie camp than Johnny Dixon did today.

656
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: Now I don't want to put all that out there

657
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: and on him or whatever, but you know, he looked

658
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: like a guy that a lot of teams might have

659
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: been interested in. I mean, I just look at the

660
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: list of receivers, and I've got the draft list in

661
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: front of me, and I look at this group of receivers,

662
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: and you know, one of the things for Johnny, unfortunately

663
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: was effectives at Ohio State with Paris Campbell, with Terry McLaurin,

664
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: with kJ Hill, who's still there. He was one of

665
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: four guys and so he ran four to four. Though.

666
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Paris Campbell was six foot two five,

667
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: you know, Johnny's a little shorter than that. I'm not

668
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: sure what Johnny's what are they listing at five? Not

669
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: that much. I just didn't get it. It was one

670
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: of those I just didn't get. I didn't have him

671
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 1: in my one hundred, but when I did for my

672
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: own purposes, I did like a two hundred, just so

673
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: you know, draft, just for the draft weekend I could

674
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: go back a reparations things. Yeah, and so I had

675
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: him like one twenty one thirty. So when I saw

676
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: he was undrafted, I'd sort of forgot about himcause I

677
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking much about receivers for us. But when I

678
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: saw that, yeah, Johnny Dixon is gonna sib with the Texas,

679
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: and went, whoa Johnny Dixon get drafted as my first thought,

680
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, we signed him, Holy smokes. So

681
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: watching him, yeah, he's he is skilled in so many

682
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: different ways. So hopefully for a guy like him, he

683
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 1: looks at it and says, yeah, I got a chip

684
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: on my shoulder. I don't know how I didn't get drafted.

685
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. And I hope that's

686
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: something that drives him for years. I hope it gives

687
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: him opportunity because he's gonna be a handful. But I'll

688
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: tell you today between Steven Mitchell and Johnny Dixon and

689
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: then Tarron Lewis or I'm sorry, Tarron Johnson from out

690
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma State, who had to think he had a

691
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: spell at LSU for a little bit. Uh, he's front

692
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: of the the world. Yeah, he was at LSU for a

693
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: little bit. Then he transfer Oklhoma State. Johnson was a

694
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: guy that declared early, and I thought he could have

695
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: used another year at Oklahoma State. I just to kind

696
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: of polish up his game. But you could see the athleticism.

697
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: He's got good size for a receiver at six nine five,

698
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: so he's got good size. I just felt like he

699
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: probably should have gone back. But then again, and I've

700
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: said this many times, I will never when a guy's

701
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: uh declares early, I will never chastise him for that

702
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: because you never know why, you never know, you never know.

703
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: Floyd Allen, Floyd Allen, what about him? He's from Houston.

704
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: He went to Oklahoma's Old Miss, Oh Miss. Yeah, he

705
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: look at Old Miss. If you're a wide receiver, you

706
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: got you got no time. It was DK it was

707
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: the Markets Lodge and it was a J Brown, so

708
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: you really didn't get much opportunity. And by the way,

709
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: he's a tryout guy here, not an undrafted free agent,

710
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: so he's not signed to the ninety yet. Yeah, if

711
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: at all he he uh, you kind of get lost

712
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: in that that cluster, if you will, of really not

713
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: not just good receivers, but exceptional receivers. All three ended

714
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: up um all three ended up being drafted. So he

715
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: only caught six passes. Wow, he only caught six passes.

716
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: But I don't know this to be fact. But my

717
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: guess is he went to local pro day. He's from Houston,

718
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: so my guess is he probably went to local pro

719
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: day and said, hey, check it out. You never know

720
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: he didn't. I'm telling you he he did not look

721
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: he looked like he fit in. Put it that way,

722
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: he looked like he fit in the whole receiver group.

723
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: I thought looked looked really really good. Stephen Lewis from

724
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: on Nancy State. I thought he caught the ball really well.

725
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: He's a he's a big dude. He's a really big dude.

726
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: Remind me of Gary Jennings, Sacrat. Drafted by the Seattle Seahawk.

727
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: Lewis six two two fifteen. Yeah, So this receiver group,

728
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm like Jordan Tom who's flipping the ball around. He's

729
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: throwing with the wearing, he's throwing it to Glassbia, He's

730
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: throwing with these wide receivers. I'm like, he's got it

731
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: pretty good. He's got it pretty good because those guys,

732
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: uh were. I mean, that's a really good group to

733
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: throw in a rookie mini Caamp, right in a rookie

734
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: mini Caamp, that's a really good group to throw too.

735
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: My name, guy whose name do I want to make

736
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: the team? Oh? Is he Matthews? Is he? Without a doubt?

737
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: I mean I want to do that right away? Running back?

738
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: Name is he? Is he? Are you kidding the easy shuffle? No,

739
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: that'd be a little different. I knew right away a

740
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: with it. I looked at all the names that went,

741
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: oh this is I gotta say, in these types of

742
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: practices the running back position, there's really not a whole

743
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: lot you can glean from what they're doing out there.

744
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: The coaches know, ah, do the guys know the snap right?

745
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Are they in the right spot? Maybe you see them

746
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: catch the ball a little bit. But man, as far

747
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: as like gaining yards, I mean that's not You're not

748
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: getting a real look at that until you get at

749
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: the training camp. Really yeah, I don't know that I

750
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: remember seeing a run play, to be honest. Now they

751
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: did while they were doing spen. Individual touch yeah, individual stuff, Yeah,

752
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: but they weren't going eleven on eleven. Let's like go

753
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: up the gut and try to get three yards. I

754
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: mean they're not doing that here. No, but the Maria

755
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 1: Crockett he you know what, you know what I saw

756
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: on him. It just looks like he belongs. He just

757
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: has that look about him. He looks like an NFL

758
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: running He's gonna be another one then we'll go. And

759
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know if that's going

760
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: to translate into on field performance. But as far as

761
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: you know here, you know, Bill O'Brien talked about the

762
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: Underwear Olympics today at the combine. This is not that

763
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: they're in football gear but without the pads. So this

764
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: is somewhere between the Underwear Olympics and real football. This

765
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: is a step up, yea. And to see guys out

766
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: here doing anything, you get a little glimpse of what

767
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: they might be able to do, and you see the

768
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: potential that the coaches and Brian gainstaff obviously saw on

769
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: some of these guys. And here's the thing. If you're

770
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: a tryout guy and you end up getting a contract,

771
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: you're getting it after three days of work. That's it.

772
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: So you've made a significant impression. And that's why those

773
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: are these guys that have to We were just talking

774
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: about it. They have to improve between day one, day two,

775
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: day three. They have to show that they take a

776
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: gigantic leap based on the coaching that they received. They've

777
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: got to get better instantly. Otherwise no job, yeah, no doubt.

778
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: But back to the running backs. I said this the

779
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: other day. I was on with Sean and Clint on

780
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: Triple Threat and they asked me, is there a name

781
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: on this undrafted list? I said, well, i's not official yet,

782
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: and I've seen preliminary list come out. And then a

783
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: guy not be on that list, I said, but in

784
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen as a true freshman, Damara Crockett was a

785
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: football running dude as a true freshman, and the fact

786
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: that he's here, I'm pumped about that. I would love

787
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: to see another undrafted SEC running back turn out like

788
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: that other one did. That was pretty darn good. In

789
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, that would be really nice. But

790
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: Crockett in twenty sixteen just watched him, like, Wow, this

791
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: guy is good. He's a true freshman. He's gonna be

792
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: a superstar. And he just never could really get healthy

793
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: over the next couple of years, significantly healthy to really

794
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: show off what he can do. But he's a lot

795
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: healthier than he's been, and you could see it. He

796
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: moves around very very well. For a guy that they

797
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: list at two twenty five, he looks at He does

798
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: not look two twenty five. He looks smooth and fluid.

799
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: He catches the ball pretty well. That he's gonna be

800
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: a problem market. I just have a feeling for this thing,

801
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: is said Don Maria. Crockett's gonna have something to say

802
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: about that running back position, all right, very cool stuff.

803
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: As far as the triout guys go, you know, Brian

804
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: Gaines says he likes big players. How about these guards,

805
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: Garrett Campbell, Tanner Farmer. I mean, these guys are huge,

806
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: over three hundred rounds a piece, and they are hard

807
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: not to notice. But again, offensive line, you don't know

808
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: what you're seeing out there. They just know where they're

809
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: supposed to be. The coaches due are they following instructions?

810
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: How's the vote work? Do they show that they've got

811
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: some kind of potential, Because if you're gonna take a

812
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: tryout guy and put him on your ninety you know

813
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: you think, well, ninety guys, you have so much opportunity

814
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 1: just to you know, load up that ninety man roster.

815
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: They're still very careful with these spots. These are valuable spots.

816
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: Like we played the cut from Bill O'Brien in the

817
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: opening segment. They don't take this stuff lightly. Yeah, there's

818
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: no question. I think one of the names that stands

819
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: out to me is Garrett Davis. I want over to

820
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 1: see you of h pro day and watch Garrett workout.

821
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: And I thought he had I thought he had a

822
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: pretty good workout. Now he's a little bit he's a

823
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: listing at six two, two ten and on. I don't

824
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: think that that's right. But if you remember in twenty sixteen,

825
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and Houston played here yep, and Oklahoma was running

826
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: up down the field at a time Smaj p Ryan's

827
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: just feel crazy and p Ryan took a runner on

828
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: the right side and Davis came up from his safety position,

829
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: and I think Davis was a sophomore at the time,

830
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you he hit p Ryan with everything

831
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: he had and p Ryan you could see him get

832
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: up and he was trying to like move his he

833
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: squeezing his hand in Remember that. Because Davis had hit

834
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: and I don't know if he hit a nerve, it

835
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: was kind of like a game changing hint. Everything flipped. Yea,

836
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: but that hit everything flipped because you could just see

837
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: it on the Houston sideline because that was right in

838
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: front of the Oklahoma sideline and the Houston sideline went

839
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: nuts in the game just changed. Everything changed on that moment.

840
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: But I think Garrett Davis could play then banged up

841
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: a little bit through his career at University Houston, but

842
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: as a trial player looks there are different ways that

843
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: you can prove it, and hopefully he gives it. He

844
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: gets a good opportunity to prove it. But I would

845
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Speaker 1: love to see University Houston player Garrett Davis safety get

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Speaker 1: an opportunity be on a ninety man roster. That would

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Speaker 1: be kind of fun. I love talking about all this stuff,

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Speaker 1: watching the coach's work, watching these players work. Forty five

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Speaker 1: plus players out there, a whole squad working out. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get the veterans out there soon enough, May twenty

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Speaker 1: if they get back to work. All right, we have

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes left DeAndre Hopkins to out what's

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Speaker 1: the best was it vegan or vegetarian? Vegetarian? I need

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Speaker 1: to talk to him because my daughter has gone vegan,

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Speaker 1: so I gotta figure out what people are telling him. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: if I gotta figure out. If you look at the

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Speaker 1: comments to his tweet, you know, Arian Foster gets involved

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Speaker 1: because remember he went vegan for a while. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: it's uh, it's not it's not controversial. But you know,

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Speaker 1: when you ask, like, what's the best vegetarian anything to

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Speaker 1: a broad audience in Texas, you're gonna get some response. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because yeahecueecue, Yeah you do that in California. It's a

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Speaker 1: little different. It's fine, but not that there's anything wrong

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Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, my daughter has gone full vegan, so

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Speaker 1: I wow, full vegan, full dairy, full vegan. Oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: and it's weird, is it now? She okay, if you

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Speaker 1: can you have a burger in front? Oh, she's fine,

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Speaker 1: fine with that, she's fine with that. She just I

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Speaker 1: try not to do it. Yeah, but but she's she's okay,

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Speaker 1: she's okay with that. Man, I'm telling you, trying to

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Speaker 1: find dad, I'm hungry. Let's go, let's go eat. Like

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Speaker 1: all right, well where do we go? So luckily we

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Speaker 1: found some great places. So they've got some different you know,

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Speaker 1: machinations of things they can put together. There's a great

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Speaker 1: place that we like to go. So there are different

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Speaker 1: things that you can and there's sometimes I'm like, wait,

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Speaker 1: you can eat that. She's like, oh yeah, I can

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Speaker 1: have them, Like all right, cool. However, whatever, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot you can do with like almonds and almond flour,

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Speaker 1: and I mean she has almond milk. Yeah, almond milk. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can do all that stuff. I can't. That's stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's okay in cereal, but I can don't ever put

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Speaker 1: it in my coffee. I can't. She puts it in

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Speaker 1: her coffee. That's what she come near coffee with that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I gotta have. I gotta have the real dairy product

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Speaker 1: in there. And let's go. You know, today is, by

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Speaker 1: the way, what Today's the twenty fifth anniversary of a

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Speaker 1: really big moment in Houston sports history. You know what

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Speaker 1: it is? Can you think about it think newspaper headlines, Oh,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it's oh jay no, it's not close though,

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Speaker 1: what is it? This was the day to day Choke

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Speaker 1: City when across the Oh yeah, when across the newspaper,

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Speaker 1: when across the Houston Chronicle, Choke City. Rockets lose twenty

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Speaker 1: point lead in fourth quart to the Suns, And yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: it was Choke City twenty five years ago. I know

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Speaker 1: it feels like it feels like ten years ago. All right,

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Speaker 1: hopefully that's inspiration for them. Good luck to the Rockets.

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Speaker 1: To night taken on the Golden State Warriors. Knock them

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Speaker 1: off and move on. That's gonna do it for our show.

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Speaker 1: If you want to hit rewind on it, it'll be

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Speaker 1: up on Houston Texans dot com. On the app as well.

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Speaker 1: Momentarily you can hear all about the rookies as Rookie

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Speaker 1: Minicamp is underway. Have a great night, everyone. Don't forget

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Speaker 1: to check out Texans three sixty on ABC thirteen Saturday

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Speaker 1: night at eleven o'clock. I'll be on with Drew Doherty.

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Speaker 1: Go Texans,