1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we are fresh off a 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: film session with Ravens scouts Andrew Raphael and Joey Cleary 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: which they broke down the Ravens twenty twenty five draft 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: class from start to finish, talked about what they saw 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: on film as they were evaluating these prospects. So we're 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: going to relate to you the information that we glean 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: from that film session, as well as any other kind 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: of follow up thoughts from this year's draft. 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just interesting to hear from them 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: kind of the process you see it through the lens 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: that they're looking at it both in terms of what 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: they saw from the players and then also how they 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: think they could fit the Ravens, what the Ravens need 15 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: and how these players would fit it. And I thought 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: it was really insightful. And Andrew and Joey do a 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: great job, and so it was just good to walk 18 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: through that process with them. So Malachi Starks is where 19 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: we start the conversation, of course, and I think the 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: like the obvious things with him are things that we 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: all all talked about he's a natural athlete. He's got 22 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: great ball skills when the ball's in the air. But 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: something that I did think that was that stood out 24 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: to me in hearing from them beyond the obvious, was 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: also the point that they made that uh, he he 26 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: wasn't hesitant to come up and defend the run either, 27 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: like we see the highlight reel interceptions and that's where 28 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: we'll focus on, and that's what you really ideally want 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: in a perfect world from a safety, but also not 30 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: hesitant to be a physical player either. 31 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there that was one of the questions 32 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: coming out of the draft, and coach Saban uh talked 33 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: about you know, he had some questions about Malachi in 34 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: that regard and and his tackling, and you know, it's 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: it's interesting to hear obviously, uh A very he knows 36 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: what he's looking at. Yeah, Nick Saban, right, But the 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: Alabama Georgia game maybe wasn't Malachi's best game in Terns 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: in terms of hit of his tackling, but the Ravens 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: saw consistently throughout tape when you look at all of 40 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: Malachi's games, very consistent tackler, certainly no hesitation, Yeah, willing 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: to come up and hit and generally did a very 42 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: good job in that regard. Now they also think that 43 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: his strength is playing You know, he's a very versatile player. 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: He can do it all, and that's what the Ravens 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: scouts said, But his strength is playing free safety. Being 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: able to show that speed, that range, those ball skills. 47 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: That's really when he's at his best, even though he 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: can do everything. 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it sounded like, based on the way George's 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: defense was constructed last year, that Georgia may have used 51 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: him even more in that free safety role. But he 52 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: was so good at being versatile and coming down and 53 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: playing in the slide and being a nickel and playing 54 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: all these different roles that they needed him to do 55 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: all those things. It's like, it's a similar conversation that 56 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: we've had with Kyle Hilton, where it's just going to 57 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 2: say the same thing. It's like, we love you doing 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: all these things, but if we want to put you 59 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: in an ideal situation, what does that look like? And 60 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: so I think that the Ravens really feel like and 61 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: we certainly had this conversation after the Ravens drifted him 62 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: on Thursday, but this only reinforced it that Zach Gore 63 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: and the defensive coaches are going to have a lot 64 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: of fun in finding how to construct this defense and 65 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: the flexibility that having Malachi in the mix, what that 66 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: gives to these defensive coaches. 67 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: So I'll get my father in law a shout out here. 68 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: He's an avid listener of the Lounge, and he asked me, 69 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: you know, how does Malachi slip all the way to 70 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: twenty seven? You know, he sounds so great, you know, 71 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: you guys talk him up and he sounds awesome. How 72 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: does he get to twenty seven? And my you know, 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: big time program had good production all those things. And 74 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: my answer to him was, you know, from a pure 75 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: athletic testing standpoint, Malachi didn't blow people away at the combine, right, 76 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: but when you watch the tape, you certainly see the 77 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: range that he has, and I think that it's position specific. 78 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: Of course, you always want the fast you want everybody 79 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: to run a four to three that you draft, right, 80 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: But I think it's more important for a cornerback, specifically 81 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: an outside corner, to be able to run like Nate 82 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: Wiggins runs and be able to run with the fastest 83 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: wide receivers. When you got to be hip to hip, 84 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: you're on an island one on one, where at safety 85 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: it's more about angles, reading the play like reaction. You know, 86 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: there's just instincts. There's a lot more factors in play 87 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: where you don't have to be you know. Now, Malachi, 88 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: let's not get it twisted. Here had a he's fast like, 89 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: he had a good time. It wasn't like crazy, but 90 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: he had a good time. And but if you have 91 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: that much better instincts, or you have that much better 92 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,559 Speaker 1: film study, you're smarter. You see where the ball's going 93 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: or where's or ahead of time, you know where it's 94 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: supposed to go if you break on that a half 95 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: a second earlier. Okay, now you're a four to three guy. Yeah, 96 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's not quite as 97 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: important as safety. I think more of these other intangibles 98 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: that we heard, you know, Joey and Andrew Rafael talk 99 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: about today, is you know, the you see his instincts, 100 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: you see his and you even see his ability to 101 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: run hip with him with with some of these faster 102 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: wide receivers. You know, they talk about him chasing down 103 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: Matthew Golden, who is one of the fastest wide receivers 104 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: in this year's draft, you know, going up against some 105 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: of these these top drafted wide receivers and running with 106 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: them down the field making plays. 107 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: That was the thing that stood out to me. Also, 108 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: it's like you look at him and they've they showed 109 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: some plays of Malachi running step for step with guys 110 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: who are either either guy drafted this year or or 111 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: are already in the NFL because they came out previously. 112 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: In the clips were from a year or two ago. 113 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: So he has I'm really not worried honestly at all 114 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: about his athletic testing, like at all, not even remotely. 115 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: I think also to the question of how does he fall. 116 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: The other piece of it is, and I think this 117 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: is the biggest one. It's the positional value. Safety is 118 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: not valued as highly as quarterback, cornerback, wide receiver pass. 119 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: That's the biggest one. 120 00:05:58,720 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: That's the reason. 121 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: I mean he was the safety drafted and he went 122 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: at twenty seven. Yeah, it's just safeties aren't Yeah, it's 123 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: highly valued, and. 124 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: So basically it's positional value. And then even if you 125 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: are a team that values the position, do you have 126 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: a need there? And so I think it took a 127 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: little while for the need to match the player in 128 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: the position, and so that's how he ends up falling 129 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: to the Ravens. And that's often times how really good 130 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: teams stay good. And look at Kyle Hamilton. Now he 131 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: wasn't twenty seven, but he was fourteen, and just getting 132 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 2: to that point, I think a lot of the teams 133 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: that the drafted ahead are thinking, man, it would have 134 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: been nice to have Kyle Hamilton right now. 135 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: Right, this'll tell you the depth in which the Ravens scouts. 136 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: Look at the film. Okay, so Malachi starts pro day, right, 137 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: he's going through the ball drills where they're they're thrown out, 138 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: and he's making interceptions on air or whatever, and he 139 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: makes a great sideline catch, toe tapping catch right along 140 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: the sideline. And then, for whatever reason, Georgia had like 141 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: a rope, you know, a few yards off the sideline, 142 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: and Malachi makes the interception, dragons the toes and then 143 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: jumps over the rope, the high rope. 144 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: It's a football field slash obstacle course exactly. 145 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: And you know the Ravens guy's like, look at that, 146 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,679 Speaker 1: Look at him clear the rope. You know, other guys 147 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: they ran right through that rope, you know, they tripped 148 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: and fell. Not Mack guy. You know, he was able 149 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: to clear that. So it was just kind of funny, Like, man, 150 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: they watch everything, they watch everything to the end of 151 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: the tape. How do he was the guy hustle? How 152 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: does he do this? Like that was a fun little example. 153 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. So moving on to Mike Green, obviously super productive player, 154 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: Seventeen sacks last year led college football, and the thing 155 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: that kept coming up on him was was his motor. 156 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: And he's a guy that and when you look at 157 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: some of the best pass rushers in the NFL, motor 158 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: is something that I think is probably like maybe a 159 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 2: little bit it's hard to quantify, but it's incredibly important. 160 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: Like TJ. Watt has that, Max Crosby has that. There's 161 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: plenty of like the top end pass rushers who had 162 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: this relentless motor. And the Ravens certainly feel like Mike 163 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: Green as that as well as a guy that, like, 164 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: even if he doesn't win initially, the players never over 165 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: for him. 166 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they as an example of that, they specifically 167 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: pointed to the viral moment at the Senior Bowl in 168 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: which he was going one on one, I guess against 169 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Josh Conner Lee junior who was a first round pick 170 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: of the Chiefs, and uh, Mike Green just ran through him, 171 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: I mean put him on his backside, which was impressive enough. 172 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: That's that's the part. 173 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: That a viral class the part of a viral. 174 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: But then also like after showing you know he's fired up, 175 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: he sprints back to get in line for the next rep, 176 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, like and and even coaches at Marshall talking 177 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: about how you know he runs in and out of drills. 178 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy like never is is loafing out there. 179 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: Just everything is at full speed. And the Ravens scouts 180 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: saw that. Joey Cleary said he spent extra time kind 181 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: of after a practice just in the background and noticed 182 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: his hustle in practice, even late in practice, and uh 183 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: so that was really cool. And then I think it's also. 184 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: Just recalling Josh Connerley Commanders Commanders. 185 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I said, he wins Cheve's Commanders. 186 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 2: Yes. 187 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: I think the other thing that that really stood out 188 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: too is the polish to his game, which is notable 189 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: considering he is coming from Marshall. Usually you don't see 190 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: that kind of level of polish with a smaller school athlete. 191 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: But the bevy of moves that he can pool. You know. 192 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got this spin move, he's got the 193 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: the arm over, he's he's got a chop. He's got 194 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: a lot of different moves. Now imagine also when he 195 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: gets with Chuck Smith. You know what kind of shine 196 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: you can put on there. And uh, you know, the athleticism, 197 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: the rare athleticism, the bend and flatten and come underneath. 198 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: Just he just has it all. You know, he's got 199 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: good polish, he's got great athleticism, You've got the motor. 200 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: From a player perspective, he checks all the boxes. 201 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's he had some really good games against 202 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: bigger competition. He had a big sack against Ohio State 203 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: early in the year against Will Howard, and of course 204 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: the High State went on to win the national championship 205 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: last year. And so he is a disruptive player and 206 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: showed up in some bigger games, even though week in 207 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: and week out at Marshall he wasn't going up against 208 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 2: the biggest competition. But he did have some of his 209 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: strong games. Another really strong game against Virginia Tech. So, yeah, 210 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: the the mixture of pass rush moves that he has 211 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: at his ability is really really dynamic for a young player. 212 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 2: And so it's like the power, the spin, the what 213 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: I watch him like, I see a guy that could 214 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 2: just finish at the quarterback. Like he's able to get 215 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: to the quarterback and get the quarterback down. 216 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is you don't get you don't leave the 217 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: nation in sacks with seventeen if he can't finish. 218 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: Like he just has a he has a great feel 219 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 2: for like getting to the quarterback and bringing the quarterback down, 220 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: and like that is something that's again it's hard to 221 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: really quantify, and it's like not a it's not a 222 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: specific skill. What's not one skill like the forty yard dashes. 223 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: Guy's really fast. It's not like it's a totally clear testing, 224 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 2: but he has a good ability to mirror the quarterback 225 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: and bring him down once he gets there. 226 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: I think one of the bigger questions about Mike Green 227 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: is what is his ability as a run stopper. And 228 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, he's known certainly for getting sacked, but will 229 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: he be a three down linebacker and be able to 230 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: stand up against the run and set that edge? And 231 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens feel like he can do that. You know, 232 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: he that wasn't necessarily what he shined at in college, 233 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: but they feel like he has the traits to be 234 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: a good run defender. The power in his hands, he 235 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,239 Speaker 1: sets it, can set a good base, he can redirect, 236 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: he's certainly willing. You know, this goes to the motor. 237 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: The effort is there, and with more coaching, he'll obviously 238 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: get better at that. And the Ravens do see him 239 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: as it was like a no question, Yeah, he's a 240 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: three down line outside linebacker. 241 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: The other thing, too, is that can be something that 242 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 2: develops over time. Like the Ravens have a da feel 243 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: way to have Kyle van Nout too, who can both 244 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: play on early downs as well. 245 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: So Tavis Robinson Thompson of course. 246 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: So like even if even if right away year one 247 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: he's not a three down linebacker, he can develop into 248 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: that and I think he clearly has the ability to 249 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: do it. 250 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: Trell Suggs came into this league and was kind of 251 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: early on in his career is go get the quarterback, 252 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: and he did it well and uh, you know his 253 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year and so I think that that 254 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: could be a similar role to Mike Green as a rookie. Hey, 255 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: let's keep working with Chuck Smith and let him go 256 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: get quarterbacks as he develops the rest of his game. 257 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that too. So then in the 258 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: third round is Emery Jones, the offensive lineman out of LSU, 259 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: and uh, look, this is somebody who the Ravens think 260 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: he played. He played right tackle at LSU. He has 261 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: the ability to be a swing tackle or kick into guard, 262 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 2: and I think that it was It's just interesting in 263 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: hearing how the coaches evaluate and they're trying to project. Okay, 264 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: how does he project at the next level. Is he 265 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 2: a tackle? Is he a guard? If he is moving 266 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: to guard? What are the things that you're looking looking for. 267 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 2: It's athleticism, but it's also intelligence and having the ability 268 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: to understand what's going on in front of you. And 269 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: so the Ravens felt like he had all those things 270 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: and could really be a Again, he could project at guard, 271 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: and I think he most likely projects at guard long term, 272 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: but he can still play tackle on the right side, 273 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: and so they like his ability to slide his side 274 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: if they want to do that. 275 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: Well, they already had a good guard Garrett in Delhi. Yeah, 276 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: they had a good left guard, so they didn't need 277 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: him at left guard. But they said that a lot 278 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: of people at LSU feel like he'll be an outstanding 279 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: guard at the NFL level. And what stood up to 280 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: me is just the dog, you know. 281 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: I mean that was honestly kind of a common theme clip, 282 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 2: that was. 283 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: A common theme among a bunch of these guys. Yeah, 284 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: and but what Emery Jones. Certainly you just see him 285 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: burying guys at the end of the play and talking 286 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: his talk, and he's he's about that life. You know. 287 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: One of the clips was even in the Senior Bowl game, 288 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: which you know, the practices are kind of the highlight 289 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: of the Senior Bowl, and he's still in the game 290 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: blocking guys fifteen yards down the field and trying to 291 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: throw them at the end of the play. And you 292 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: know that that kind of effort, that tenacity, that attitude 293 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: resonates with the Ravens and their scouts. 294 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, young player too. He just turned twenty one years 295 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: old and so certainly plenty of room to grow physically 296 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: and just overall in his game. So I think this 297 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: is just a This is a classic, like really good 298 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: a player from a big time program who has ideal 299 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: size and physical traits that is still a little bit 300 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: rang considering he's only twenty one years old and could 301 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: step in. He's going to compete. I mean he can 302 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: compete right away at left guard. 303 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: You know who he reminds me a little bit of 304 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: is collecchi assemle oh okay, who is a college tackle. 305 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah dog, Yeah, that big bass, strong, powerful, like like 306 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: to get after you. Yeah, that's what I kind of 307 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: see from memory. 308 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: I think that's probably I like that comp. I like 309 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: that company. And collecchi played both tackle positions in college 310 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: and the pros left tackle, amrit tackle, and then guard 311 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: as well. 312 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: It was really the best guard. 313 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: He was best suited at guard, but he played. He 314 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: ended up playing swing tackle over the course of his career, 315 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: and so if that's how it goes for Emory, that 316 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: would be a pretty a pretty good career for sure. 317 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: So I like that comp. Next up, Teddy Buchannan, the 318 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: linebacker out of col and man, this guy just seems 319 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: like really really fluid and smart at diagnosing plays at 320 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: the line and then once he once he assesses what's 321 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: happening in front of him, great closing speed. 322 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, athleticism, relentlessness. To me, plays like a Raven's kind 323 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: of guy, plays like a raven kind of guy. You know, 324 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: I think that you just he's got that long hair 325 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: and it looks like he's playing with it on fire, 326 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you see it, and it is 327 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: remarkable about a haircut though, So you got a haircut now, 328 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: and you won't be able to notice that out there 329 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: on the field of Many camp this weekend. That was 330 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: when they were showing the clips. You're like, oh, there 331 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: he is. Yeah, they got the long hair. But certainly 332 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: one thing that stood out to me is, yeah, his 333 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: diagnosed his skills, which is really notable considering that he 334 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: was a high school quarterback. He was a quarterback really 335 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: throughout much of his youth football career, which is probably 336 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: why he didn't end up getting more highly recruited and 337 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: started at UC Davis, which also led to him being 338 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: a little bit less noticed potentially, you know. And then 339 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: he really had this one breakout year at Cal in 340 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: his final season, and so part of it is you're like, 341 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: where did that come from? You know what I mean? 342 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: And I think that his quarterback background helped him in 343 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: terms of being a good linebacker because he could see 344 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: things and diagnosed and he knows what an offense is 345 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: doing and then he has athleticism and the clothes on it. 346 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: But it also kind of hurt him in terms of 347 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: maybe what pushed him down the board a little bit. 348 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well he wasn't like he didn't come out of 349 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: high school. It was this big time recruit. He was like, 350 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: if we were having this conversation a year ago, nobody 351 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: around the NFL and the were this building most likely 352 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: would be like, man, we think Teddy Buchanan a year 353 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: from now is going to be a breakout player. 354 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: He was even high on Cow's list in terms of 355 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: these the guys to watch that are coming out in 356 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: this year's draft. I mean he was a new transfer 357 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: into the school. But yeah, then he just blew up. Yeah. 358 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: So it's like coming from the small school and then 359 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: transferring up to cal and then having a big breakout season. 360 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: He just kind of slipped through the cracks, and the 361 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: Ravens end up feeling like they get like this really 362 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: good player in the middle rounds, who who has this 363 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 2: untapped potential and can bring something to this defense. To me, 364 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: it seems like the right away with him, the way 365 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: that like he has his physical style, evenow some clips 366 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: of him like folding up offensive linemen on pulling blocks 367 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: and so like he doesn't shy away from contact. I 368 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: think that, like at a minimum, with him as a rookie, 369 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: he's going to be an impact player on special teams. Yeah, 370 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: and then he's going to challenge trent simpsor for a 371 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: starting job. And I think that, like I think that 372 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 2: as we're sitting here today, I think that Trenton is 373 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: certainly the favorite to that job, but Teddy's gonna push 374 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: him for it. And I don't think it's a lock. 375 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: I think that it's one of those made the best 376 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: man win situations. 377 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree with that. I think Teddy 378 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: Buchanan it's gonna be one of those. He was a 379 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: fast riser, I think it seemed in the pre draft process, 380 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be fun to see him keep that trajectory. Yeah. 381 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: All right. Carson Vincent, my guy, the Ravens end up 382 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: taking him in the fifth round. Offensive lineman out of 383 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: Alabama A and M. Developmental tackle, big guy, six seven, 384 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: three twenty and it's kind of funny one of the 385 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: players they showed of him. They're going up Alabama A 386 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 2: and M, but going up against Auburn and they're down 387 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 2: seventy three to three in the fourth quarter and so 388 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 2: kind of a rough, rough score situation. They're overall for 389 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 2: Alabama A and M in that game, but a point. 390 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: And this is just I mean, to be honest, this 391 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: is the kind of thing that shows you, like the 392 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: depth of which scouts are looking at everything, like you 393 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: would think that in the down seventy points situation like 394 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: that just skip this tape here. 395 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's a small school guy going against a 396 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: big time programs, so that that's the gold. 397 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, And even in that situation, like he's playing hard 398 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: late in the game and winning some reps late in 399 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: that game down seventy points, and I think that that's 400 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 2: that tells you a little bit about the type of 401 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: person beyond just the physical traits that he has and 402 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: the ravens like that. 403 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: To me, a lot of the scouting report on Carson 404 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: Vincent that we got today was about the person and 405 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: the makeup he's He has the prototypical size, the measurables, 406 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, heightweight, speed, length, reach, all those things, they're 407 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: all there. And the feet, the athleticism, it's there. But 408 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: why they really liked him even though you know you 409 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: turn on that Auburn tape, and not all of it 410 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: is is pretty. You know when you have a small 411 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: school guy going against a big time program like that, 412 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: and you know there's some things that need to be 413 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: worked out, but the person in terms of how passionate 414 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: he is about the game, and you know he is. 415 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: He after he makes a good block, he's telling that 416 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: guy that he blocked, how how good it was, and 417 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: the desire to be really good. I think that you 418 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: look for traits in these middle to late rounds, and 419 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: certainly he checks all the boxes from a physical and 420 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: then and then you say, man, this guy wants it 421 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: right and and that really stood out to them on tape. 422 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned with Emery Jones the rep at the 423 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl during the game. There's also kind of a 424 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: viral ish rep for Carson Vincent at the Senior Bowl. 425 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: It was the end of practice. A lot a lot 426 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 2: of Senior Bowl reps here, Mike Green, Emory Jones, Carson Vincent. 427 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: The Ravens value that Senior Bowl and uh but but Vincent. 428 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: It's a basically at the end of a practice and 429 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 2: with the whole team watch and they call out one 430 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: v one and it was Vincent vs. Mar Stewart, who 431 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 2: the Bengals took in the first round. 432 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: Pastor Mark Stewart was having an awesome uh. 433 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then had a great combine. Yeah, and so 434 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 2: Vincent and he wins that rep. And then he kind 435 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: of got in Stewart's face a little bit and then 436 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: his side of the ball went crazy. And so like 437 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: you saw the passion, you saw the energy, and like 438 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: like that competitiveness. It came up with a lot of 439 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 2: these guys, like a little bit of trash talk clearly 440 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: means something to them. That was the case to Vincent, 441 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: that was the case with Emery Jones. Like these guys, 442 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 2: they've got a little bit of an attitude, and that's 443 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: what you like from an offensive lineman. 444 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so you liked my comp earlier with Cleccio, similar. 445 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: You got for Vincence. 446 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: The attitude reminded me a little bit of Orlando Brown. Well, 447 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: and the body and the attitude reminded me a little now. 448 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: Orlando Brown played at Oklahoma, Okay, so he was he 449 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: came in and obviously his father was an NFL player. 450 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: He had he was destined to play tackle in the NFL. 451 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: Vincent's small school guy and all that stuff like he 452 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: needs more refinement, right, Yeah, but from an attitude perspective 453 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: and body reminded me of that. 454 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that there's similarities there. I do think that. 455 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: I think they are. The Orlando round comp is just 456 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: tough because he was I don't know, you're not saying 457 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: they're going to be the same player. But Orlando was 458 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 2: a guy that like he was Taylor ready. He was 459 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 2: Taylor made for the NFL. He was ready to go, 460 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: and he from childhood. Then he dropped the third round, 461 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: had no business following to the third round, but basically 462 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: had a really had a horrible combine right right, and 463 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: then that dropped him to the third round, and the 464 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 2: Ravens took him and said, well, you know, no problem 465 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: with the combine issue, will take you in the third round. 466 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: It worked out. 467 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 2: But so a little bit different in that sense where 468 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: like Vincent has the size, similar ish size, even the 469 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: Orlando is just such a big guy, yea a big 470 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 2: new he is he is, but but but Vincent's at 471 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: like three twenty where Orlando's wore like three forty. He's 472 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: just even wider. So again I think the comp is 473 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 2: I get it, and like the attitude I see that. 474 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 2: Like when he was kind of giving him the head 475 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: nod and the finger point, I was like, I've seen that, 476 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: I've seen from Orlando. Yeah, so I get that. I 477 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: get that comparison, all right. Next up is milalkone, cornerback 478 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 2: out of Western Michigan, and Raves just feel like this 479 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: guy really good a wearing, his good instincts. He's has 480 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: good ball skills. They feel like he has a good 481 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: feel for finding the ball. And like when you're when 482 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 2: you're drafting corners late in the process, really if you're 483 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: drafting any position late in the process, and they took 484 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: two in the sixth round, like you're looking for traits 485 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 2: and he has good feed, he has good size, ball skills, 486 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: he's tough. So like you have all of those, you 487 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: have a lot to work with with with BK, with 488 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: kone and the Ravens like the potential that he has. 489 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, just cool with the ball in the air, and 490 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: that's not a trait that all cornerbacks have when that 491 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: ball is up there, are you are you freaking out? 492 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: Are you turn your head and looking back? And and 493 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: BK certainly does that also notable that you know, they 494 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: feel like he does have some slot versatility. It's certainly 495 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: not what he does a lot of, but played some 496 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: in the slot. 497 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 2: Next is Tyler Loop kicker out of airs. And I 498 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: know you were grinding the kicker tape leaning up to 499 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: the draft, just watching all the kicker tape, but with Loop, 500 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: like the thing that that when you look at some 501 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: of the film in all honesty with him, is like 502 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: his his motion just looks natural, like it looks fluid. 503 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's more so. The interesting part here 504 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: is that Tyler Loops his field goal percentage went down 505 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: each season, so obviously not ideal what you want to see, 506 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: but really more than results, the emphasis for the raven 507 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: is on the process and what he what his mechanics 508 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: are in kicking the ball, and what they saw from 509 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: Tyler Loop was the most consistent mechanics of this kicker class. 510 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: Like every kick looks the same with you know, your 511 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: plant relationship, relations to the ball, with your swing like 512 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: Randy and Randy has talked about this. Randy Brown, who's 513 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: the Ravens kicking specialist. Yeah, uh, and he was. This 514 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: was his assignment, right, it was go find the best kicker, 515 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: the guy you like that you want us to draft. 516 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: He was really driving the driving the bus. 517 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: He was driving it. And uh so, what he always 518 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: talks about is that kicking is like golfing in a way, 519 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: and you just want to have the smoothest swing. If 520 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: you have a really smooth swing, you're most likely gonna 521 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: get really good results. If if your swing is inconsistent, 522 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: well then it's really hard if something starts going wrong 523 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: to fix it because you don't have a consistent baseline. 524 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: If you have this consistent swing, not just swing, but 525 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: approach to the ball, all of those follow through, all 526 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: those the mechanics of kicking. The more that can just 527 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: it is automatic, it replicates itself every single time, the 528 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: more likely you are to have consistent results. Yeah, and 529 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: that's what they saw from Tyler. 530 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: Luke and and we mentioned this in our recap podcast 531 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: immediately after the draft that he talked about kind of 532 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: being and the Ravens talked about this too, him being 533 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: a little bit of a kicking nerd and having a 534 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: like a swing like a swing coach and golf He 535 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: used that comparison. And he is a guy that gets 536 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: into the details and the weeds of kicking, and so 537 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: that to me kind of helps explain the mechanics, like 538 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: very mechanically sound. Yeah, and so the Ravens feel like 539 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: they got a really good kicker. 540 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: And another thing when I talk about field goal percentage 541 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: in college that the Ravens scouts point out was that, 542 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 1: you know, you have to take that with a bit 543 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: of a grain of salt. Was it a good snap holder? 544 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: You know, you don't have premiere long snappers and holders 545 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: like you do in the NFL, where the operation matters 546 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: a lot. Also, all right, what are the circumstances of 547 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: each kick? Right? How many of those were fifty plus 548 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: yard whatever? Yeah? Right, So it's really more than production necessarily, 549 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: it's about process. Yep. 550 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 2: Next is Lejonte Wester out of Colorado wide receiver and 551 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 2: return man. Competitive Again, he also has some of that 552 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 2: same attitude that we're talking about with the offensive lineman 553 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: Florida guy. And so think he's gonna get along well 554 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 2: man with Lamar and like he's going to be right 555 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: at home. But to be honest with Zay, like we 556 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 2: look at some of the highlights, the quickness and the 557 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: shiftiness that he has reminds me of Save Flowers. Yeah, exactly, 558 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: is that joystick kind of ability? 559 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: Exactly? I feel like he could be a good kind 560 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: of zay back up, you know, get the A lot 561 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: of what he did at Colorado was get the ball 562 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: in his hands early, quickly in space and let him 563 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: go to work. Because when he's in space, he's a 564 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: tough guy. And what's notable is I think you certainly 565 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: after he was drafted, you hear the joystick ability, the moves, 566 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: the shiftiness and open space, the speed and all those things. 567 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: But it's the toughness that really stood out to the 568 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: Ravens scouts and even to Willy Taggert who coached le 569 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: Chante back at Florida Atlantic, and Willy Taggert was coaching 570 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: there and Willy loved him, said, this dude's a dog. 571 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: You don't usually hear that about five nine one seventy guys. Right, 572 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: Just this guy's physical and he's a dog, like can 573 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: take a hit, not a right of anything. He has 574 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: all the attributes that you want, you know, not just 575 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: as wide receiver, but especially as a returner. Right, talk 576 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: about fear of position. That can strike fear in your 577 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: heart when you're looking up at that ball, you exactly 578 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: like so being fearless in that position, Smooth catching, fielding, 579 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: the ball. 580 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: That's I liked having a return guy who you can 581 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 2: put back there and you can just trust them to 582 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 2: catch it cleanly. 583 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: That that was not a feeling that you had at 584 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: all times last year for the Ravens just put too 585 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: many balls on the ground late in the season, and 586 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: so yeah, just having that comfort, that's a job that's 587 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: probably number one. Yeah, you catch the ball and you 588 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: secure the ball first, whatever yards you get after that 589 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: as a bonus. 590 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: John Harblaugh said that last year, like the first job 591 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: is punt catcher, the second is punt returner exactly. 592 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: And so on film, Lagone really catches the ball cleanly 593 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: and looks very at ease and natural doing that. So 594 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about him. I like that pick. 595 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 2: He was super productive in college, like Monster production. Over 596 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: the course of his career, came up with some big 597 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: catches and big moments, and then he has that shiftiness. 598 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: I think the immediate impact for him is, say he's 599 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: going to be the raven starting return man this year, 600 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: and then I think that the opportunity is going to 601 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: be there for him to carve out a role for 602 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: himself on offense over the course of his career, and 603 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: I think that he could end up being a nice 604 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: piece use on some of those jet sweeps and different roles. 605 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: Like I think he could be a nice creative weapon 606 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: for Todd Monkin and this offense. 607 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: We when college football fans probably remember the play that 608 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: Colorado won on they beat Baylor. 609 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: Nor Sanders roll left. 610 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure Sander's role left throwing a bomb to the 611 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: end zone to win in the final seconds. And Lejonte 612 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: was the wide receiver on that play who made an 613 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: incredible catch, fighting through contact and diving in the end 614 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: zone to make that grab. So clutch, yeah, clutch dog, 615 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. 616 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: All right, let's go a quick break. When we come back, 617 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: we'll round out the rest of this draft class and 618 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: give you some closing thoughts. You're listening to the Lounge podcast. 619 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: We're coming to you from the Sea Keek Studio. We 620 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: also want to mention our partners at Draft Kings Sportsbook. 621 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: They are an official sport spending partner of the Baltimore 622 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: Ravens Draft King Sportsbook. The Crown is yours. So next 623 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: defensive lineman and Nis Peebles out of Virginia Tech. Smaller 624 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: defensive lineman, but he has this ability to get into 625 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: the backfield, incredibly quick off the ball, and he's six 626 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: foot two hundred and ninety pounds, so like when you're 627 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: thinking about a defensive tackle that's undersized, but he actually 628 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: like it's not just quickness, which he has yet that 629 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: quickness is excellent, but he also has he uses his 630 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: smaller stature to his advantage with leverage and he has 631 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: he still has. 632 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: Power, lower body power, lower. 633 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: Body power, so like he's a smaller guy and then 634 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: uses that to his advantage. We've seen that with offensive 635 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: lineman and defensive lineman over the years. If you can 636 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: use that leverage to your advantage, then being shorter is 637 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: it doesn't actually hurt you, And it seems like that's 638 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: the case with Peoples. 639 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, multiple clips against big time players, A big old, 640 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: three hundred and forty pound guard out of Miami. He's 641 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: going to be early pick in future drafts, and Ania's 642 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: really kind of standing up and standing firm against him, 643 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: even taking on double teams, and so yeah, that's the 644 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: question is you know this guy's gonna be able to 645 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: shoot gaps, Which, hey, if that's that's your trick in 646 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: the bag, that's a good trick to have. But also 647 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: I think that he has the ability and the power 648 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 1: to also offer more than just a situational pass rusher, 649 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: which is probably what it'll be as a rookie. You know, 650 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: if he's getting defensive snaps, that'll probably be in that role. 651 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: But I think that I really think this could be 652 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: a late round steal for the Ravens. 653 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I just think that he 654 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: has like the tools, and it's he falls because he's 655 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: a smaller defensive lineman. Yeah, And like that's that's kind 656 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 2: of a similar theme with some of these these final picks. 657 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: So John tay Westerns five nine one seventy Peoples is 658 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: a smaller defensive lineman. And next up is cornerback Robert 659 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: Longerbeam who's five to ten, And so if he's a 660 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: little bit taller, how early does he go? If he's 661 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: six to one running a four to three like he does, 662 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: how early does he go? 663 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: Uh? 664 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: Is it day two? Maybe? But like I think that 665 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: that's kind of a theme. And when you're drafting these 666 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: guys in the late rounds, again, you're looking for traits 667 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: and the and the potential to develop into something special 668 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: and be a late round steel. And so I think 669 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: all these guys have that that potential and does it happen, 670 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: We'll see. 671 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: So that's note, by the way, who his name is Fub, 672 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: That's what he likes to be called. F Ub. Fubb 673 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: can do the worm. Did you see this? 674 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that clip from the Senior Bowl another 675 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: Senior bow highlight viral moment. 676 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: Right trying to distract the kicker to miss a field 677 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: goal when he's just doing the worm right across the 678 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, right down the line scres impressive. 679 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: Reminds me a little bit of Brandon Williams. 680 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: Oh the handstands walking on his hands exactly exactly that 681 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: another great cop. 682 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, very different player, but the dance moves the worm handstand. 683 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: So there you go. Longer Beam. I mentioned him like, 684 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: he's got great speed, sticky in coverage, and I think 685 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: he moves well. And so this is just another guy 686 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: that the Ravens feel like has has potential along with 687 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: b K to be a late round steal. And I mean, 688 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 2: the tricky thing is that the Ravens have eleven draft picks. 689 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 2: DaCosta even said before the draft it's not likely at 690 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: eleven draft picks end up making the fifty three man roster. 691 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: They could be in a situation where it's either or 692 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: so those two guys are competing for a final roster 693 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: spot and then you'll just see who ends up winning 694 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 2: the job. 695 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, again, traits, you're looking for trades late and longer. 696 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: Beam just moves like an NFL corner. You know, this guy, 697 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: the short shuttle is forty time, as you mentioned, like 698 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: he just has some very good athleticism. 699 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: And then lastly it closed it out Garrett Dellingser, offensive 700 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: guard from LSU. It's just kind of the forgotten man 701 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: on a really talented LSU offensive line. Will Campbell is 702 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: a top five pick and then Emery Jones we already 703 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: covered him as a third round pick. So like the 704 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: tackles take all the attention on that LSU offensive line, 705 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: and but Dellinger is he's he's a guy that really 706 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: good guard. The Ravens feel like he fits their scheme, 707 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: which I think is important. Like that's part of the 708 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 2: process here that I talked about earlier, that the scouts 709 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 2: are looking for player assessment and then how do they 710 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 2: fit what we do well? 711 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, the Ravens running wise, do a little 712 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: bit of everything, but specifically big wide zone you know, 713 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: stretch zone teams, He's not going to be the best 714 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: fit for that. He is more of a power blocker 715 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: and the Ravens they get down with some power blocking 716 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: and a maller, you know. I mean, he's a good size, 717 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: strong again attitude. You want to watch him finish in plays, 718 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: just just burying guys at the end of plays and yeah, 719 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: just a big, strong, violent blocker. 720 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 721 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: So he can't have too many of those. And part 722 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: of the reason I think that he slid. You know, 723 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: he had an injury last season that cost him a 724 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: number of games. He got sick at the combine, you know, 725 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: like again, like you mentioned, part of a very good 726 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: LSU offensive line, you just kind of gets overlooked and 727 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: the Ravens again feel like they got a late round, 728 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 1: seventh round steel. 729 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's all eleven draft picks there and the 730 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 2: film breakdown and what we learned from that. The last 731 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: thing I want to close up with here. We got 732 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 2: this question from Justin Landy to the lounge at Ravens 733 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 2: at Ravenson NFL dot Net says, Hey, guys, I'm a 734 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: long time listener emailing for the first time because I 735 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: had to share the story with you and the rest 736 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: of the flock. When my wife and I told our 737 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 2: two year old son that the draft was happening, he thought, 738 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: we said the giraft, and he called the draft the giraft. 739 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 2: The entire three days that was already funny, but then 740 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: it got really weird on Thursday night when the broadcast 741 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: cut to the Ravens draft rum after the Malachi Starks 742 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 2: pick and there was, for no apparent reason, a giraffe 743 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: in the background. My wife and I noticed it at 744 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: the same time. He busted out laughing. So I have 745 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 2: to ask, what is the deal with the giraffe? Well, 746 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: he explained it. Well, here justin did there is a 747 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 2: large stuffed animal draft that's in the draft room. And 748 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: Takasa explain this what you want to share the story? 749 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so basically this was a gift or whatever, a 750 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: toy from what Eric to Cossa's kids back in the day. 751 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: And then you know, as parents ourselves, you know these 752 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: some toys go out of style, they end up collecting 753 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: dust in some corner somewhere. And so Eric Tokasa saw 754 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: the draft just sitting around. He said, you know what, 755 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: I'm going to bring this in to prove a point, 756 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: And the point that he wants to prove is that hey, 757 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: if you like a guy, stick your neck out, stand 758 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: up tall and stick your neck out and advocate for 759 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: your guy, like strong opinions are welcomed here. Yeah, and 760 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: so that the giraffe is a reminder of that mentality. 761 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it is. There is an actual reason that 762 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 2: it's in the draft room. It's a constant reminder of 763 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 2: that fact. But it is a pretty funny thing. Whenever 764 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: it pops up on TV. 765 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: He should just rename it the diraft instead of the 766 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: dah It's the draft. 767 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it so as always, you 768 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 2: can email us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL 769 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 2: dot net. Thank you so much for listening, and we 770 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: will be back with you again later this week.