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Speaker 1: some football. Mickey, Nate's here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, Nates sre Wow.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited, man, thanks for having me on y'all show,

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Speaker 3: and I'm excited. I'm ready to go. Man, what is

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Speaker 2: I want to know how many miles you drove to

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Speaker 3: Probably about thirteen hundred, took two days. I stopped at Albuquerque,

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Speaker 3: he got up next morning and came on in, which

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Speaker 4: We're right now at the Staybridge. Sweet.

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Speaker 3: Everything's changed and this is beautiful out he has been upgraded.

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Speaker 4: We still got leaf flowers.

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Speaker 2: Leaf flowers have to be out there. Yes, that guy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have some artificial turf here near the did

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Speaker 3: Yes, but the grass is so green man.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 1: That artificial turf the practice field is natural, yes, but

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Speaker 1: And let me just tell you right off the top.

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Speaker 2: I thought about why because California was over there going

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Speaker 3: They just say cloudy. I don't know what else we

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Speaker 4: That's right. Let me set the schedule, the podcast schedule

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Speaker 1: We're here at nine am Pacific time, eleven am Central time.

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Speaker 1: One thing he's done since he took the job, he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's still a different he's he's you know,

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Speaker 2: Did you notice that there was another tent in the

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Speaker 2: You competition I bet the ping pong tables in there.

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Speaker 3: You know, And even that, I'm not gonna. I'm not

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Speaker 2: See, Nate, I love the word you use. Bonding, yes,

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Speaker 1: The media back in the nineties with your teams, because

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Speaker 4: Hang out there locker room.

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Speaker 1: So we saw that firsthand ourselves, the dynamics of that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Mike. But you got quiet guys too that

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Speaker 2: Could there have been one more question about Michael Parsons?

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Speaker 2: Remember Michah Parsons is under contract. Okay, he is under

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Speaker 3: they're they're in that negotiation. I don't care about it.

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Speaker 3: But if he if we can get him signed be

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Speaker 3: before they put on them past, that's all I care about.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, how involved does he

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Speaker 1: need need to be when he is here? Because just

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Speaker 1: this morning in a serious NFL radio is listed. Tom Telesco,

445
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Speaker 1: the former Chargers GM was on one of the shows

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Speaker 1: and he was talking about the hold in a training

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Speaker 1: camp hold in that's the new thing, and Derwin James

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Speaker 1: was one of the first ones to do it, one

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Speaker 1: of his players a couple of years ago at San

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Speaker 1: Diego or the Chargers, and he said, as that the

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Speaker 1: way that thing played out, and Derwin James it was

452
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Speaker 1: more of a distraction to the team being in camp

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Speaker 1: not doing anything. He wishes that he would have just

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Speaker 1: held out in here. So how involved does Mike A

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Speaker 1: need to be? Understandably, you don't want to risk injury,

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Speaker 1: maybe on the practice field, but then again, I mean

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Speaker 1: what needs to happen now.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm with coach because You don't want your superstar

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Speaker 3: standing over there flipping the ball up in there everybody

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Speaker 3: out there working hard, especially a few days they gonna

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Speaker 3: have on pads. If you can get him out there

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Speaker 3: some kind of way being involved with the players, you know,

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Speaker 3: and not don't just come out and stand on the

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Speaker 3: sideline over there stretching. Do something that's showing that you

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Speaker 3: are workie. Players can relate to that. The media us,

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Speaker 3: we can relate that when we saw you over there, U,

467
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Speaker 3: I was working on a drop, so I was working

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Speaker 3: on this. I was doing. Don't just come out every

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Speaker 3: day and flip the ball up and play around, you know.

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Speaker 3: And because now you go to throwing the ball with

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Speaker 3: the other guys, it's gonna be distracted. It is because

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Speaker 3: now I gotta say, well, well, well Michael's over there

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Speaker 3: throwing the ball and playing around. I see you guys,

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Speaker 3: because we are part of that distraction too, because we're

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Speaker 3: gonna focus on Michael.

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Speaker 2: So the key thing is they're here twenty six days.

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Speaker 2: I think I and I counted the opportunities for padded practices. Okay, twelve,

478
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Speaker 2: think about that, twelve padded practices. And this is a

479
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Speaker 2: new team. Now you get another week once they get

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Speaker 2: back to the Star right before you get into kind

481
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Speaker 2: of game preparation mode, but you don't have a lot

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Speaker 2: of time.

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Speaker 3: To mess around get this thing going.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and and so you know, I hear about and

485
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to what you said about bonding.

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Speaker 2: So if he's out here, I want him when they

487
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Speaker 2: do the stretch.

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Speaker 3: To stretch with the team, Yes, not.

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Speaker 2: Off to the side and digs playing.

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Speaker 4: The kind of stuff. I think Jerry's looking exactly yeah, right, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean when Jerry's talking and he's got to do the

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Speaker 1: State of the Cowboys press conference and start, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying he's sending a message to Michael about anything, but

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Speaker 1: that's what he wants to see.

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Speaker 3: And that's why, right, exactly see, and no one challenged

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Speaker 3: him last year.

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Speaker 2: I think the one guy I heard got upsets, Yes,

498
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Speaker 2: absolutely bones did. He was like, are you not part

499
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Speaker 2: of this team? Because no one else said anything to

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Speaker 2: those guys, and it's like you're over there playing well.

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Speaker 4: I think that's also one of the beauties of Schottenheimer.

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Speaker 3: It's a new team, and that's what just moved forward. Yes,

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Speaker 3: it's a new team, let's move That's what is all

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Speaker 3: about let's let's move let's just move forward, because uh,

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Speaker 3: once again, the NFC East is a beast, you know,

506
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Speaker 3: and I knowing I'm going off of last year projections

507
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Speaker 3: into this year. Our division cannot have slip ups and

508
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Speaker 3: you don't want discarnold team, a disconneld team like we

509
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Speaker 3: had last year. It was too much going on with coaches, players, executives.

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Speaker 3: Too much was going on last year. This is a

511
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Speaker 3: new year. And Parsons nose, he's seen what good leadership

512
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Speaker 3: is about Dak is that he's seen it. So now

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Speaker 3: does he want to be part of You don't have

514
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Speaker 3: the raw rah. You know everybody's but if they are

515
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Speaker 3: out just stretching, stretch with your team, if they're having

516
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Speaker 3: but don't don't don't take somebody away with you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, We're gonna take a break here and we come

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Speaker 1: back because I'm done.

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Speaker 4: With the press conference stuff.

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Speaker 1: I want to get into what training camp battles we

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Speaker 1: have yes this year, because it's unlike many training camps

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524
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Speaker 1: set and we're just here to find out who gets hurt.

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Speaker 4: This one.

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Speaker 1: There are position battles, young guys, veteran guys like never before.

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Speaker 1: Like you go back maybe to your arrow with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Where when Jimmy first got it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly when when guys legitimately have a chance to

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Speaker 1: Okay, we got about thirteen minutes left to go. Mickey

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Speaker 1: does not think that's enough time to talk about the

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Speaker 1: position battles in this training camp, but let's take a

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Speaker 1: shot at it here, as we are just a couple

582
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Speaker 1: of hours away from the team starting its first practice

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Speaker 1: of training camp. Start with you, Mickey, what position? What's

584
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Speaker 1: the top of the list as far as position battles?

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Speaker 2: Cornerbacks and only probably because of the health of your

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Speaker 2: top corners Trayvon Diggs not ready to get out there

587
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Speaker 2: after his knee surgery. He's starting on pup I would

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Speaker 2: imagine that will at least at least last for the

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Speaker 2: full first week, if not longer. This will be other

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Speaker 2: than one workout during a mini camp. This will be

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Speaker 2: the first time for the trainers to get their hands

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Speaker 2: on him and get a better feel for exactly where

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Speaker 2: he is in his recovery. And then if you look

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Speaker 2: at that, you also have placed on Pop Butler, Joshua

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Speaker 2: josh Butler. I was struggling with his first name, and

596
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Speaker 2: he might not be ready to play this year.

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Speaker 4: He didn't al yeah, December.

598
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Speaker 2: November, so he's going to be hard pressed.

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Speaker 1: And he showed some some flashes there when he did.

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Speaker 1: He finally got an opportunity at age twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: And then there's a Savon Revel, their third round draft

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Speaker 2: choice who would have been a first round draft choice,

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Speaker 2: and he's going to start on non football injury, still

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Speaker 2: coming back, and they're being very conservative with him. They

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Speaker 2: feel like he should be able to play this year,

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Speaker 2: but again this ramp up phase, let him get out

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Speaker 2: there and get some more work. Kayln Carson another guy

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Speaker 2: they they were very conservative with in the offseason. He

609
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Speaker 2: was coming back from shoulder surgery. You know, he got

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Speaker 2: off to a good start last year and somehow lost

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Speaker 2: confidence in himself and then had the shoulder injury that

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Speaker 2: he was trying to play. Those are three guys right

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Speaker 2: there that they've got to see just exactly what they're

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Speaker 2: going to get out of So to me, there's room

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Speaker 2: for some young guys to step up and take hold

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Speaker 2: of an opportunity. And one is career Elam. You know

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys traded for him. He would spend three years

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Speaker 2: with Buffalo, never really engaged, had injuries that set him back.

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Speaker 2: He's got a great opportunity to be a top three

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Speaker 2: or four cornerback here.

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Speaker 4: So they're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Need some of these young guys to be able to

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Speaker 2: step up, and they're gonna get opportunities. But there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a lot of competition there because you just don't

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Speaker 2: easily say, oh, Jordan Lewis is not here, We'll just

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Speaker 2: put a guy in the slot. That's a huge hole

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Speaker 2: that they got to fill.

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Speaker 1: And the guy that you did not mention, Deron Bland,

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Speaker 1: is in a contract year, right and you look at

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Speaker 1: his history. I mean, he had an injury issue going

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Speaker 1: into last year. He only started seven games last year himself.

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Speaker 1: And so here's a guy that obviously was playing at

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Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl level with five pick sixes.

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Speaker 4: The year before, and you have to have him healthy.

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Speaker 1: But as it stands right now, to start camp, who

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Speaker 1: lines up at cornerback? You got Bland, you got Elam

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Speaker 1: and depending on Carson.

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Speaker 2: Right, and they've got to find and they if they

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Speaker 2: find another guy outside, then Bland can move inside on

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Speaker 2: the nickel because if you remember his rookie year, he

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Speaker 2: got on the field as the nickelback when Jordan Lewis

642
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Speaker 2: was hurt. But you gotta find another outside guy. Is

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Speaker 2: it gonna be Diggs, I don't know, Caitlin Carson, I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm just throwing names out.

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Speaker 1: And then there Kemona Hall who flashed last year training camp,

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Speaker 1: had a pick six in the first preseason game out

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Speaker 1: in North Texas. Andrew Booth who did not flash. And

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Speaker 1: then you've got other guys on the roster that are

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Speaker 1: at the cornerback position, including Troy Pride, a college free

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Speaker 1: agent who's harming.

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Speaker 4: They did sign to Robert Rochelle, who has.

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Speaker 1: Some experience in the league just within the last month,

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Speaker 1: but that's basically animal Kwamu.

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Speaker 2: They're considering him.

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Speaker 4: Between a safety and the corner. That's what you have

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Speaker 4: on your depth charge.

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Speaker 2: So there's you wanted competition battles. These young guys are

659
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: gonna get opportunities, now will they take advantage of it?

660
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 3: The bottom line. Is this right here? Will the coaches

661
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 3: stand up and give a guy a real chance? I'm

662
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 3: serious that it's gonna be a different name. Give the

663
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 3: guys a chance. If you see a guy and I'll

664
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Speaker 3: go back to Bland. I told people when Bland was

665
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: a rookie, I came on y'all show many times saying,

666
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: why is it Bland not starting from day one? He

667
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: lit it up and he's never stopped. If we find

668
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 3: a guy out there that's lighting it up when preseasons start,

669
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: let him play. If he does it better than average,

670
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 3: let him play. Are you willing as a coach to

671
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: say we got competition? But I only backed that up

672
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 3: by putting the guys who played the best for you.

673
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 3: Let them play, give them for men.

674
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: And they've given Elam a great chance in these off season.

675
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: Words the cornerback position.

676
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: Look at the history of football, the history of the

677
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and you will find that the cornerback position

678
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: there there have been guys who were undrafted yes to

679
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: their rookie year emerge as a starter on the teams.

680
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: Was one of them is a regular on this show,

681
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: Everson Wallas, going back forty something years ago.

682
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Speaker 2: Then one of them was a twelfth round draft.

683
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: Larry Brown was another one. I mean, even a guy

684
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: like Anthony Brown. I remember his first training camp practice.

685
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 1: I think he picked off Tony Romo right there. Okay,

686
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: dron Bland was the same thing. I think he picked

687
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: off that guy day one of camp. And so that's

688
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: a position where you can come from back in the

689
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Speaker 1: pack and emerge in So are.

690
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Speaker 4: Any of these guys here one of those guys? We'll

691
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 4: find out.

692
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Speaker 1: And one thing that tells me about it when you

693
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: got the injury issues with Revel as well as Diggs

694
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Speaker 1: and they haven't gone out and signed another veteran guy,

695
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: makes me wonder that, Okay, maybe Reveel is closer than

696
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: we think, maybe Diggs is.

697
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: We'll see, or they've got a veteran sitting out there

698
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: that they know. Well, if worse comes to worse and

699
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: no one steps up, play you could bring.

700
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: The guys that you bring a training can do? You know,

701
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: quit with the if this and if that, if a

702
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: guy shows and for me, it's who's gonna be your tackles?

703
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 3: You got guiding, you got steel, and you got awesome riches.

704
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: Are you gonna give these guys equal chance? Last year

705
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: Riches every day, practice, every day, played in every game

706
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 3: these seventy five percent of the pre season. Then you

707
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: pined him, then he luckily got on the field, did well.

708
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: Then you played him part of another game and he

709
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: got injured. Are you willing to give this kid a

710
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 3: chance at one of these tackles positions? And then are

711
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 3: you willing to say, Okay, whoever we decide to start

712
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 3: at these tackles, will the other guy be a swing guy?

713
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 3: You got to build some continuity. You can't do like

714
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 3: you did last year and play games because if we

715
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: have a strength, it's gonna be on our offense. The

716
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: strength is gonna be on our offense, and you cannot

717
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 3: afford to be to be swinging in and out out tackles,

718
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 3: and you have to play the best guys that can

719
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: get the job done on a consistent basis. That is

720
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Speaker 3: what the competition thing about. During the year. This is

721
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 3: what the competition thing about. Walking out on that field

722
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: gnawing in your heart. Like Bill said earlier, it's been

723
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 3: since jim Me Johnson where you have how you have

724
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 3: a chance to really make a difference out there on

725
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Speaker 3: the practice field. It ain't like let's just get through

726
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 3: the training camp and let's get back home safely. This

727
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: I don't it shouldn't be one of these years, you know,

728
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: it shouldn't. It should be Hey, this guy, Hey, hey,

729
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,959
Speaker 3: missus Jones, Hey, hey hey, missus Stevens. This this guy

730
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 3: is a little bit better. I know we didn't draft

731
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: from here, but let's give this guy a chance.

732
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: So other than those three guys though at tackle position,

733
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Speaker 2: does anybody's kind of name step out to you that

734
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 2: can maybe compete to be in that top three.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna We're gonna find out.

736
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Speaker 1: Here's what I was gonna say about the depth chart

737
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Speaker 1: on the offensive line. That's unusual about this team this

738
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: year when you compare it to past years and you

739
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: compare it to other teams in the league. Normally you've

740
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 1: got fifteen offensive linemen on your roster, okay, And normally

741
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: you have a handful of guys, three to five guys

742
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: who are either rookie draft picks or rookie undrafted guys

743
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: coming in here. You got one rookie on this depth chart.

744
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: That's the sixth round draft pick of Johnny Cornelius.

745
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Speaker 3: That's it.

746
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: That is it.

747
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: You got a bunch of veteran guys, some of whom

748
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 1: have experience in the league, whether playing tackle or guard.

749
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Speaker 4: I mean, we don't even.

750
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: Talking about Robert Jones, who started seventeen games last year

751
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: for Miami at the guard position.

752
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 2: I think he's played. One of those guys's played some tax.

753
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: Actually, Kima Dinejee is another one that they signed who's

754
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: from Garland, who has starting experience in the league fifteen

755
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: starts in his career.

756
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that these.

757
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: Are the Sadique Charles is another one that you mentioned

758
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: out of LSU who was not playing last year but

759
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: made ten starts for Washington the year before. There are

760
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: guys that can compete for spots, and it's going to

761
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how it all plays out.

762
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: You don't want like last year when our young first

763
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: round pick went went to struggling and it finally got

764
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 3: to a mental and he was struggling. We didn't have

765
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 3: we had a suitable backup, but the guy got hurt.

766
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: I can't think his name's no longer with us. Uh

767
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 3: he came back. Uh, well he's with another team. Then

768
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 3: that that force. Uh, this young Richardson guy now then

769
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 3: he got hurt this year here we got guys you

770
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: were yes. This year, we have guys like Bill said

771
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: that a veteran guys that have played, they won't be

772
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 3: wide out of, you know, like owls. When they get

773
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: in the game, they'll they'll be ready for the moment.

774
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 3: And that is what I like about, uh, this this team.

775
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of times you want to develop

776
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: players and and and rookies and all of that, but

777
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: they're not used to what's happening in it.

778
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: They tell me about your career. Okay, when you were

779
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: freshadow of Florida and.

780
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Speaker 3: M I had to go to us Veil, fl by

781
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Speaker 3: the time.

782
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: How old were you by the time you got to

783
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and then we're starting.

784
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: For the Colberies six.

785
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 4: Okay, when you look.

786
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Speaker 1: At the ages of these guys that I just was

787
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: talking about on the offensive line, I mean, Cornelius the

788
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: rookie is twenty three years old. But across the board

789
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: the starters, and they're good ages I think as far

790
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: as being starters because they're not too old too. Steele

791
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: is twenty eight now. Booker Booker's the other rookie I

792
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: failed to mention. As far as tackle prospects. Cornelius the hether.

793
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: You got two rookies on the roster. Obviously the first

794
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: round pick Booker who's only twenty one, bbe twenty four.

795
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith is twenty four. Tyler Geiton is twenty four.

796
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: Awesome Richards turns twenty he's twenty four. Sidiq Charles is

797
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: only twenty. He turns twenty six next week. Brock Hoffman

798
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: is twenty six.

799
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Speaker 4: TJ.

800
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Speaker 1: Bass Is twenty six, is twenty seven, Robert Jones is

801
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: twenty six. Dakota Shepley as a thirty thirty year old.

802
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: Nathan Thomas, who was a seventh round pick last year,

803
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: turns twenty four next month.

804
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 3: See the thing about it is they old enough, we're

805
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: gonna have to put panthers on them. I mean they're

806
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: young enough, you know, they old enough. We're gonna have

807
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 3: to put pampas on them. And they ain't over the

808
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 3: hill where you got to put the pins on it.

809
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: Then mentioned, well let's go twenty five steal in that.

810
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: So they are and they toddlers shorts, and then I'm

811
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: happy to have that, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, mama, mama,

812
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: I got to use the restroom. Hey, baby boy's doing good.

813
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 3: You know, but I like what is happening here. I

814
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: like that guys are young enough, strong enough, and smart enough.

815
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 3: All of these guys got experienced. The only one that's don't,

816
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: that's projected started is the first round pick.

817
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: So here's the bottom line.

818
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: I think on those guys that you mentioned their bill,

819
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: you got a plethora of guard candidates more so than

820
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: tackle candidates. And I don't even want to bring it up.

821
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: I have so long term deal that you gotta do

822
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: something with Tyler Smith as a tackle, and I don't

823
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: want to say that.

824
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: Brother. For the first time in a long time, because

825
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 3: I argue this week with football related people and none

826
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: football related people. I was talking to George Hageman played

827
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,479
Speaker 3: with US back in the day, and he was telling

828
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: me about Colorado. He said, man, for the first time,

829
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: we have a center and two guards, and I looked

830
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 3: at them because I had an argument with him a

831
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 3: long time ago. When you have the middle of your

832
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: offense anchored right, you can work with tackles, but it

833
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: can never be the other way. You can have two

834
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 3: great tackles and them guards the center. Your quarterback's gonna

835
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 3: be running for his life. George, you have a chance

836
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: if this booker guy is the soul snatcher that he

837
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: told everybody that he is, that he gonna take. So

838
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: if well, bb another year in the left guard. I

839
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: don't even want to mention how much they don't have

840
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 3: to pay him, because that.

841
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: That's gonna be through the sign.

842
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: But hey, it's guards. Weren't making that kind of money.

843
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: It's time. Let me tell you something. My offense is

844
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 3: gonna have to be the catalyst of it. Yes, yes,

845
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: And the quickie you fix your offense, the better off

846
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: it is gonna be.

847
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 2: All right, So you get two positions.

848
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: We got two positions in too much more to get

849
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: to on Thursday, all right, So we'll be back on

850
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: a Thursday that's much more still ahead, got a Brian

851
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer press conference coming up in about an hour and

852
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: twenty minutes from now. Then they're on the scale. And

853
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: I said at the beginning of the show.

854
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did write it down, Chris, Who's next?

855
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: Who's next?

856
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 1: Got the Players Lounge coming up after that? Like, yeah,

857
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: so you gotta go again.

858
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 3: Now I'm not the Players Lounge. Now I'm hanging with

859
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 3: the boys. Oh hang baby.

860
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 4: All right, and we'll talk at you again on Thursday.

861
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Speaker 4: On mix shots.

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00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: Yes, sure we go.

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