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Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, REXI

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Speaker 1: Rei Jr. And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network

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Speaker 1: material witness on an aggregated battery, I was a hang

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Speaker 1: gun and um they believe this might be in retaliation

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Speaker 1: to her testimony. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening

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Speaker 1: wherever you may be listening. This is another episode of

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Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles, episode thirty six, and I'm here with

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Speaker 1: my co host and my name is Alex Alonso. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get right into it. Last week and the week

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Speaker 1: before we had the Thanksgiving episode and the t. K.

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Speaker 1: Kirkland episode, and I just want to go through a

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Speaker 1: few fact checks before we start the show because we

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Speaker 1: gotta guests bring you today. But let me get through

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Speaker 1: these facts. Two weeks ago, I had incorrectly provided Anthony

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Speaker 1: Quinn's real name. His his actual real birth name is

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Speaker 1: Antonio Rudolpho Quinn wai haaka. That's his real birth name.

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Speaker 1: And he was actually born in Mexico, but he grew

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Speaker 1: up in East l A in the neighborhood called City Terrace.

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Speaker 1: City Terrorist is actually the same neighborhood. Dad, Remember Mayor

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Speaker 1: via Rogossa, l a mayor. He's from that same same

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Speaker 1: little area. I don't know if he banged from the

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Speaker 1: neighborhood over there, but via Grossa grew up over there,

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Speaker 1: all right. So that's Anthony Quinn's correct name. And then Um,

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Speaker 1: on that same episode of the Thanksgiving episode, when we

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Speaker 1: talked about the different police officers that we've been getting arrested,

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Speaker 1: I said something about, oh, there's a couple of these

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Speaker 1: cops that did a rape, but I didn't remember who

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Speaker 1: they were, but I looked it up. This is crazy, Uh,

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Speaker 1: William Rodriguez, No, no, no, I'm sorry. UM. James Nichols

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Speaker 1: and Louise Venezuela pleaded no contest to sexually assaulting four

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Speaker 1: and eleven. This happened, they got they got found guilty. Well,

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Speaker 1: they played guilty, which is what no contest means. In

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Speaker 1: February two eighteen. But these are two l a p

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Speaker 1: D officers. James, they were partners and it was pulling

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Speaker 1: outcome was how much time, Oh, the the amount of

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Speaker 1: time they got. Um. I think they both got twenty

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Speaker 1: five years. They really got stretched out. They didn't getting

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Speaker 1: So for those that are wondering, Yes, these were two

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Speaker 1: old Louise Valence well A forty five, and they was

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Speaker 1: rolling around rape and chicks in their cruisers. And when

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Speaker 1: another l a p D officer this year in July.

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Speaker 1: Um was arrested in July. His case is pending, so

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Speaker 1: technically he's innocent until proven guilty. But officer William Rodriguez

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Speaker 1: thirty two, thirty three years old, was arrested in July

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Speaker 1: on two felony counts of forcible rape. He's a ten

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Speaker 1: the guy that was on Texas death row supposed to

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Speaker 1: as of now. And man, I got so many messages

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Speaker 1: And that's what people doing. They're looking at this ship

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Speaker 1: Two more fact checks from the T. K. Kirkland episode.

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Speaker 1: A couple of people hit me up and said Lyndon B.

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Speaker 1: whole Nonprofit Act that T. K. Kirkland talked about. So

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Speaker 1: And then I got a lot of comments about another T. K.

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Speaker 1: Kirkland comment about cowboys. The first cowboys were black. Technically

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Speaker 1: to nine d three thousand followers on Twitter. He's almost

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Speaker 1: getting to a million. James is expecting a phone call

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Speaker 1: from Reggie Wright. What's happening with you? Rich much? How

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Speaker 1: you doing? Bro? Oh, I'm good man, I'm good. We

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Speaker 1: were should here. What's up? Redge we're just over here

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Speaker 1: Here this prison? Ya take day day? You know? And

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Speaker 1: how's the adjustment been now? Now it's been what about

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Speaker 1: Now many just I got this one brother, and they're

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Speaker 1: be like, oh man, I don't know how you ain't

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Speaker 1: gonta jail yet. Well I told you what my what

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Speaker 1: You're on there. We all sit around watching TV and ship.

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Speaker 1: I guess what comes on Reggie right? Yeah that so

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Speaker 1: everybody looked at you. Everybody they know they are cool.

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Speaker 1: I told you I'm at a count bron the place

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Speaker 1: next door that's where the should go down. No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Doug uh is called program. Don't let them program who you?

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Speaker 1: I ain't the point I'm talking about. You're talking about

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Speaker 1: the FCI that's right across the street, right, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's you know the one. Yeah, that's an act security. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they had. Yeah, there's some heavy hitters in

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Speaker 1: And I'm trying to you, I've been in there thinking

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Speaker 1: what you can I can't send it already? Can about

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Speaker 1: but but I want you. I want you to take

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Speaker 1: Reggie business. And do you dub don't be on about

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Speaker 1: September date. I gotta September tipth date, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to mess it up September next year. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's how it goes because of what happens is uh

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Speaker 1: Severaluary fifth, something like that. It was the fifth at first,

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Speaker 1: the first it's actually fairy way the first, but you

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Speaker 1: get my home compliment date and the ammergant here, so

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Speaker 1: But then they also put it for me for three

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Speaker 1: months of halfway house. Let's car that's lesson three months

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Speaker 1: so from September the tent. Uh, I should be out

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Speaker 1: get yourself together way in and take advantage of it exactly. Red,

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Speaker 1: was I mean basically when they started over there and

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00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: then with Jim Brown and everybody else was was was

423
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: coming up off of it, But the people that should

424
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: have been coming up was Watch. Yeah. This is so

425
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: backing up to saying, man, it established in the W

426
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: Man Watch A W A T T. S Man, the

427
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: community of Watch between the housing projects and Nixon going

428
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: joining Down's Pure Courts, Height Center Village. Those are four

429
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: four amazing housing projects in the segments of Watts And

430
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: we bought this truths together and it's say lives consecutive

431
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: for twelve straight years, and I mean twelve years. There

432
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: was no gun play, no murders, no dry bys, no

433
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: ship and watch. It was nothing but love. Families coming

434
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: together from all different sizes of the tracks who been

435
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: separated for twenty thirty years of our war because of

436
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: that separation, and they had family on that side. So

437
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: it was baby's made. You know, other families in that

438
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: generation was brought up in that era of the nineties

439
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: up to the two thousand millennium. So for the city

440
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: of wass during that time, man, it was very very beneficial.

441
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: It was a factor and the community it brought to

442
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: hold it for level. So if a lot of young

443
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: homies can sit back and really just see on what

444
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: took places for as that hystorical moment in time and

445
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: realized dog that peace is essentially with some months that

446
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: with peace it brings capital because now it brings others together.

447
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: It brings you together from different neighborhoods, different different sets,

448
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: different areas, no matter what walk of life. But your

449
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: best partner who may think in the same for him,

450
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: you think ate your homeboard. They over here from a

451
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: whole other side of the world. And we get money

452
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: together because we get alone. Were both compatible. We argue

453
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: for us like brothers, but we still get money. I

454
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: supposed to this homeboy ship. Your homeboy ready to stab

455
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: you in your back and knock your head off, has dollars.

456
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: So you gotta look at the psychological aspect of this ship,

457
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when we put that together,

458
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: the whole dynamic would bring it together was us for

459
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: the love of the people, especially for me, because it

460
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: took them a while to get to me for me

461
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: to come aboard and self cant represent my neighborhood. I'm

462
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: the voice for my hood and I represent the blood

463
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: card of dim Moves and just dimos in general. You

464
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: feel me when it came down to it, because there

465
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: was no other bloods at the table besides my big hommie,

466
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: Donny Boy, Big Hank, and Big Buzzy Bobby Bugsby. Those

467
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: were my three big homies in the first generation who

468
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: was actually there at the underground meetings that took place.

469
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: Because these meetings took place and started out of his

470
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: underground meetings. Like I said, it started Jim brown House

471
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: and from Jim brown House brother by the name of

472
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: Dogus Hills, which is a Muslim brother. Out of drawing downs,

473
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: he told his brother, Man, we just we just needed

474
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: like Cadillac, just like in one one area, specific area

475
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: in that area need to be We need to concentrate

476
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: on us Watts, because we are the we are the hood.

477
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: We're the mothership of the ship of this game, ship

478
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: of the city period. So if Watson come together, the

479
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: whole entire city is gonna be like a Dinamo effect.

480
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: And his idea was right, because that's exactly what happened

481
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: when we put that ship together, and and and it

482
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 1: hit from the politicians and Maxine Waters on up Man

483
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: while we were in the streets dancing and and and

484
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: left your slide and man Compton came together. I told

485
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: my some of the most violatile, dominant gangs and Compton

486
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: they came together. South Central came together, His Spanish games

487
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: came together. And even though the ship didn't uphold as

488
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: long as our did, but it was the idea it happened.

489
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: That means guess what this ship exists, it could happen.

490
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: It's all up to us. The people. We are, the people,

491
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: the community, we are the people. See a lot of

492
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: people always put down the nine truths because then last.

493
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: But I always say, no, we got to go back

494
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: to the you me and the last twenty years. That's

495
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: a decade or some change. To me, it didn't know.

496
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not I'm not saying I say

497
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: that every time we're talking peace in two thousand nineteen

498
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: and someone says, oh no, we can't do it. Oh no,

499
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: that's not possible. I say, man, ninety two truths. We

500
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: got to always go back. That's the foundation of all

501
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: peace talks that we have going on right now. Everybody

502
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: got to look at it and she why it didn't last?

503
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: Why it? Let me ask, that's because because some people

504
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: say a lot of a lot of some people say

505
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes took place. Things that shouldn't have

506
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: happened happened. It could have lasted longer, could have been permanent.

507
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: Why do you think twelve years or whatever it was,

508
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: the twelve years of peace bro first and foremost, that

509
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: twelve years was hard. Ship wasn't easy. You gotta understand man,

510
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: me coming from my position, you know, as being the

511
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: individual that I was at that time in my in

512
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: my era, my generation, my leadership, my guidance, my influence.

513
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, me beat me being an

514
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: influence or individual coming from my hood and just being

515
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: a blood Perian representative, blood gang. You know what I'm saying,

516
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: for me to represent the opposite of what we always

517
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: knew was it's blood of die. This is blood of dominant.

518
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This is we We don't

519
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: do the blue thing. We don't do the cript thing.

520
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: This is blood and nothing. So that's all we knew

521
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: from a psychological standpoint. So for fifteen twenty five years

522
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: actively in my life, that's where I lived. If you

523
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: was a CRIPT and you was on the other side

524
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: of my enemy, I'm smashing on site. I see you.

525
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: It's on. It takes it back to when I was

526
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: explaining the norm. It's a differentially between game members and

527
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: gang bangers. These sucks today are gang members. For me,

528
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: I came when I grew up my active duty in

529
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: the streets. That's why I'm a veteran. When veteran days

530
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: come around, you're dead right, celebrate because I'm a veteran.

531
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: I survived twenty five active duty years as a gang

532
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: banger purpose a gang banger. So let me break that

533
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: definition down for all the US is out there is

534
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: listening to tv lad for all you gang members. We

535
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: got millions of game members right now today in the millennium.

536
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: And that's what you are. Gang members, your walk ons

537
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: you put on. Somebody told you about a gangster who

538
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: came to they hood and made this day hood. He

539
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 1: told you that, so that makes it illogical. And now

540
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: did you notice you go tell somebody else, and now

541
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: y'all just start claiming this hood. You become a member.

542
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: Gang bangers or the dudes is going to prison for

543
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: the murders, the robberies, the kidnaps, the bank robberies, the hustling,

544
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: those are gang bankers. Us. When you gang bang, you

545
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: hit up your enemy, You smash on your enemy. Ain't no,

546
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: oh we get alone. We cool ship you gang banging.

547
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: That's where the gang banger is. Right now to day,

548
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: we have more or less gang bangers and more gang members.

549
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: Gang bangers are trying to get out the hood and

550
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: get away man and trying to find another life. Man,

551
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: you don't want to gang bang You sorry he has

552
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: gang members or the individuals in the way of peace.

553
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: You sorry he has gang members or in the way

554
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: of individuals who really want peace, to see peace for

555
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: the future. You motherfucker's are the one to sit away, man,

556
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: because we're in a new era, a new millennium, and

557
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: because us o G s have stood back passed it

558
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: the time like we're supposed to. Just like when our

559
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: big homies in the first generation passing to us like

560
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: me and my jas being for the second generation, we

561
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: had our error. We fall the structure. Don't see the

562
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: difference between us and your millennium, motherfucks is we fall

563
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: the structure. We listened to our big homies. It wasn't

564
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: no old I'm tough for him, I can shoot better

565
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: than him. No, that's the big homie. And the big

566
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: homie was here before me, and evidently he was doing

567
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: some right ship that got him to that level. So

568
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: let me follow his structure, let me follow his lead.

569
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: And that's the difference. So today we have none of

570
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: that ship. There's no structure, there's no unity, there is

571
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: no G code. And it's crazy because you got all

572
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: these cities by coastal. This gang members, including your fake

573
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: ass rappers in the gang gang members and that gang

574
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: bangers you niggas is gang members to the New Range

575
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: and the fake fruity to the ass birdman CEOs and

576
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: all the rest of you fake ass gang members. Man,

577
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: because you niggas know not, go ahead, cut man and

578
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: those out there to know me. I go in and

579
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: can I speak it, I walk it, I talk it,

580
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: and I travel. I'm not known. Oh, just getting on

581
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: this Mike Speaker's mind. And you ain't gonna never see me.

582
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: You said up to see me in your town, in

583
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: your city. I don't care about your goons, your entourage,

584
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: none of that ship. I'm not invisible. But the thing is,

585
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: you gotta bring it. You gotta bring correct if you

586
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: coming the same for the next man. Ain't nobody out

587
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: here invisible? Anybody could be touched and tap man. I

588
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: just speak the truth. I've been living this ship, man,

589
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: so I can speak it. That's a go and in

590
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: your damn show saying it, and a lot of people

591
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: hear you right now. Are they gonna chake to it? Now?

592
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: They don't want to change to it because they want

593
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: to act like this. But my question is how do

594
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: you get the big homies to get on that level

595
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: where you act to to go back to the hood

596
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: and check the gang members. These new cats coming in

597
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: that's destroying everything. Well, it's it's it's a questions pretty much. No,

598
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: not not all, not all the ogs, the gang members,

599
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: the younger generation members, peines bro, every drug that was

600
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: existed in this the late sixties and the early seventies

601
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: for Vietnam invested. We're coming home from the pill Poppa

602
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: to the Heroine, to the lean all that ship was

603
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: established alre in Cz seventies. Man, that was a no

604
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: no to us out in our communities. Black people didn't

605
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: touch that ship. That was a no. Note. The pills,

606
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: the diners of the uppers, that's what I t s

607
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: are grant successors using. Back in the day, they didn't

608
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: do haird rhind and and all this hard ship. Now

609
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: these kids, it's a combination. Don't try one, they do

610
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: it all, or they just look at one video. It's

611
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: called entertainment. Man. I crossed my life over from being

612
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: this known legendary Bonnie Hunter slash former leader to becoming

613
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: a CEO entertainer. And it's called entertainment. Man, We get

614
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: paid to entertain the outside consumers. So what you don't

615
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: understand is when a lot of these fake ass entertainers,

616
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: celebrities and rappers get on here, they're getting paid for

617
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: these endorsements to funk up your mind, funk up your mind,

618
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: set your life, and throw you off for the right

619
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: things that you're supposed to be thinking on and smashing on. Man,

620
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: they throw you into the opposite directions. For prime example,

621
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: a lot of his music, a lot of the stuff,

622
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: and a lot of the message that's been given to

623
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: our communities, in our young youths out here. It's misguided, man,

624
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: That's why y'all fucked up. It takes a man to

625
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: raise a man. A boy can't raise a man man.

626
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: A boy can't turn a man, a boy to a man.

627
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: A woman raised a woman. This is just the way

628
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 1: it is. So we live in a society now where

629
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: it's warped. It's all designed, it's all predesigned and has warped,

630
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: meaning that we don't have women raising women anymore. We

631
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: got young girls, younger women of the night. I mean,

632
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: if you really want me to go there, business and

633
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: holes raising kids, single moms because there is no fathers,

634
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: their sperm donors. Baby daddy asked niggas who don't want

635
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: to own up to the responsibility a bitter father regards

636
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: to what you and that woman going through or your

637
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: relationship has failed, you still got a responsibility, and that's

638
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: their child, the child I was not getting a chance.

639
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: So what do our children do? We grow up at

640
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: five or six, they member and see everything that's going

641
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: on in that fucked up negative household. So now that

642
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: going your commodity, that next daughter, it's sad. For an example,

643
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: you think you just look around you statistically, what do

644
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: you see? Every picture from a little girl post sideways,

645
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: just like Peter cycle. So to see the cycle got

646
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: to be broken. So when you talk about peace in

647
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: this area and it's time zone, yeah, it seems impossible

648
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: for it to become peace when you got game members

649
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: in a way who had no experience to the real streets.

650
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: Your motherfucker's just millennium walk ons you. You you ain't

651
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: been nowhere, you ain't been there and where it's really

652
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: been down where this ship is real? You feel me?

653
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: So now you got people who really have lived their lives,

654
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: been around they're the one who's the sacrificed bodies that

655
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: you see in these neighborhoods is dropping and losing and

656
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: getting killed with the gun, playing the drive bys. They

657
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: have sacrificed bodies. It ain't the game members. They're bearing

658
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: gang bangers or ex gang bangers who Okay, I decided, man,

659
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna change my life around. Or his son and

660
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: got shot, but he his daddy didn't retired already. His

661
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: daddy got at least ten years in retirement. Now you're

662
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: gonna shoot the Sun, and Sun ain't even gang banger.

663
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: So it's like, bro, it's it's all funked up. So

664
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: when you try to bring a crewler guys together in

665
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: this element now to bring peace at the individuals who's

666
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: at the table gotta be real thorough leaders. They gotta

667
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: really be individual who have a mouthpiece, who can go

668
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: back to their neighborhood and really make a difference, or

669
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna play. It's not gonna happen. You can't

670
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: beating them nigger just at the table to them, Oh yeah,

671
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm that nigga. Man. Listen, it's a new wave and

672
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: these youngsters it's stay time and their ERAa and they

673
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: got the opportunity and it's they right to run with it.

674
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: However they went around with it. See my my analogy

675
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: is this bro I put in my time. It's just

676
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: like going to wars. Right to to run with it

677
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: and do what they want with it. They don't have

678
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: the right to do it because I disagree. I disagree

679
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: for them to run the mark the way they're doing

680
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: killing people just on GP. No, not in that aspect, OK,

681
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: I agree, because when you see him out there, they

682
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: have no respect for the old gs, just the homies

683
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: in general. So when you got cash and this isn't everything,

684
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: every every neighborhood, So when when these little cats out

685
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: there just just freelancing doing what they want and how

686
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: they want to do it, something something gotta change. I

687
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: don't know what it is that's gonna change them, but

688
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: these cats is killing people just for nothing. Well let

689
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: me rephrase that because it wasn't first foremost. I'm not

690
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: gonna eat and give them some props like that to

691
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: even glorified. They had the right to just do some

692
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: speaking ship like that. What I mean by is they

693
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: have their right by right because Baton has been passed

694
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: down in their generation, the era to maintain and control

695
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: these communities that they call their hoods, because ain't none

696
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: of this ship our fucking hood. At the end of

697
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: the day, broke, we've been fucked up. We see we

698
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: started this ship, and so we repsychologically already sucked up

699
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: about it. Me even then, as a youngster, I knew

700
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: this ain't my hood because I don't own none of

701
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: this ship. But this is my hood because it's in

702
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: my heart. And this is what I was talking as

703
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: a grown man and growing and with growth and knowing

704
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: this man, and then being an owner and ownership outside

705
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: of your neighborhood, knowing this, I own this ship over here,

706
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: this minds. Don't the white man anybody come take this?

707
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't own this over here. I don't own no

708
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: project building, None of us do. So how the fund

709
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: is this our hood? But our hood, it's our hood

710
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: by turf, because this is where we grew up at,

711
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: and this is where they stuck us at from a

712
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: psychological standpoint. So so so so the youngsters today is

713
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: what I mean by right. They have that right to

714
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: take their situation and do certain things as they made,

715
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: but not as they should. They should be doing the

716
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: things that was already established. The blueprint was already done

717
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: with this gang ship man. There was rules already laid

718
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: down with it. And if the rules were stood the

719
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: way it stood, they would be on a whole different level. Guarantee,

720
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: a lot of them would have grew so fast, faster

721
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: than we ever did, because these kids that day way

722
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: smarter double time, and where we were, we were coming up,

723
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: So they would have had a different floor matter, different

724
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: way of looking at that ship to where it probably

725
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: they would have made the games did not even exists

726
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: no more because they would have been that sharp. That's more.

727
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: But instead is the total opposite, you know what I'm saying. So, no,

728
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: they don't have to right to kill and the sisters killing,

729
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: So that takes us back to us. Us has been

730
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: the Ogs first generation, second generation. I've said this to

731
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: a lot of my homies. I said this to my

732
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: homeboys behind the wall as well as out here in

733
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: society in the streets. When it comes to the dangers

734
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: and the buffoonery and a lot of the ship that's

735
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: going on today, when it comes to these neighborhoods, you

736
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: can we we we can't have to. We have to

737
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: step up and be able to say, some of this

738
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: ship is some of our fault. We are hold on,

739
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, follow me. I say it's some

740
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: of our fault, and we are accountable, like you say,

741
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: Mr j is because we laid the blueprint and it

742
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: was a fucking protocol behind his blueprint, and whomever those

743
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: new tenants and those sergeant and arms, and those lasts

744
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: of the soldiers from our generations under us there was left.

745
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: Those are the ones we were supposed to snatch and

746
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: keep grooming so they can put the foot down, the

747
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: boot down on these motherfucking game members and get them

748
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: out the way and keep the ship by protocol like

749
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be where snitching becomes from him.

750
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: But it's a no note. So with snitching involved, there's

751
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: not much in today's society you're gonna be able to

752
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: do us for us formulating the organizing shit, nothing because

753
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: the man is sitting at the tables wired up. He's

754
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: working for the folks, but he's a shot caller. So

755
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: it's like it's so much that you up against when

756
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: being accountable, you want to speak. That's my point, being accountable, man,

757
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: I think all the older guys because I look at

758
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: it like this half of the ship these little cats

759
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: was doing. I've done it. I was out there doing it.

760
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't reckless because me personally, I had a purpose

761
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: of doing what I was doing. When I was gang banging.

762
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: My purpose was to go after anything of that color,

763
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: and that was my thing. That was my thing. That's

764
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: the owner. That's all I wanted to do. That's all

765
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: I did, even if I dressed like him. This was

766
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: my purpose for going out. So cats don't have that mentality.

767
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: They're shooting at anything that that looked like that they wronged.

768
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: So so we everything that they're doing, we did it before.

769
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: Like I look at my nephews, I tell I say,

770
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: so it kind of how can I be mad him

771
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: and they when he saw the ship that they grew

772
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: up watching their uncle's. Now they're trying to be a

773
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: part of the hood and they want to be and

774
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: do what we did. But you can't get that status,

775
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: young man, because it's totally different now and they're doing

776
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: it in a different world fashion than what we did.

777
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: Different now, you know, like like for quick example, we

778
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: like I was just telling know him the other day,

779
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: I said, no, do you know this is how must

780
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 1: respect gang bangers had from the elder and you mentioned

781
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: him twice. I just want to say Norman as the producer,

782
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: shout out man to my god, Norman still Man. But

783
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: gang bangers are the sixties and the seventies and the

784
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: last of the eighties to the nineties gang bangers and

785
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: that G code had respect for elders. Do you know

786
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: you can see the toughest, hardest gang bangers spot one another,

787
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: but at that second, in that moment, one of those

788
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: dudes grandmother, grandfather may be in the way, so that hit.

789
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: Guess what that here to be called off. They gotta

790
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: pass on Sundays. They didn't even go out gang bang

791
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: on Sundays. They gave it elder than they respect to

792
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: go to church, bro. So you know what I'm saying.

793
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: It was a different G code we lived by as today,

794
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: it ain't no G code. There is no rules, there

795
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: ain't no function. And as far as when ship happened,

796
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: we sit down, we talked about it, we discussed, we

797
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: come up with a game plan. Okay, now we know

798
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: who we gotta go smash something like James. We're just

799
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: saying they just go out shooting anything. You don't even

800
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: know who did what how do you know it was

801
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: them over there? How do you know when all you

802
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: some businesses mixed up together now days so you don't

803
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: know where it's coming from. Then you went out and

804
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 1: made so many enemies when we again we planted that seed.

805
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: When it comes down to this blood factor man is

806
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: mu thing man first and foremost. I want to say

807
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: for the record, I myself along with cats like James,

808
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: his brother, Rested Peaks, bunch of Yeah, big heroine, c

809
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: j uh, big kind of dog man. The list goes

810
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: on homies, a thunder rested Peace, Bapties, I mean, from

811
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: the Biddy to the Jungles. But we made up this

812
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: motherfucking blood thing man to where we we we put

813
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: this unity together where we were all one unity, you

814
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And at that time, during the

815
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: early eighties, I came up to the idea to Bonnar

816
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: rue Man because Bonnie hunters and part Rules has always

817
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: been allies. We've always been broke dogs. So we used

818
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: to skate together hoods, our neighborhoods. We used to go

819
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 1: from community to community and we party to skate together.

820
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: Every Wednesday. They would come to the Nixon Gym or

821
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: we go to the Loose Park gym. So we were

822
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: really really tighten it, bro. When it came to competent Fruittown,

823
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: Lootis Park and Nixon, we had always been air tightened it, Bro.

824
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: So can you give us a little history about the

825
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: bounty rule, like who started that? And a few homies

826
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: I just named off in the county jail and blood

827
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: Maree during the eighties, Ramsey the Loafs all my homies.

828
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: We were all in jail in prison on our way

829
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: to prison for terrorizing. So we came up with this

830
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: idea because for one, the crips ran the county jail

831
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: in the seventies, Bro, seventies and eighties, you had to

832
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: be a real fucking blood to even do time. So

833
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: this is what a lot of ship. It irks me

834
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: because of what I went through and a lot of

835
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: my homies in my rams. This real bloods that s

836
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: hurts me as today because dude, we cut the path

837
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: for you when the ass fucking as mark as niggas.

838
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: We really had to cut a pad. Niggas was getting fucked, raped, killed,

839
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: slaughtered being a blood going through them county jails because

840
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: crips is really cripping and they wasn't playing and niggas

841
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: was on swollen. Feel me super suall turkey swoll. So,

842
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: how how about you gotta go down the road and

843
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: you talk about your blood and all your anymies down there,

844
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: niggas is seventeen eighteen. It is owned up. Man in

845
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: the arms man, the niggas is crepping. You definitely knew

846
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: what you me. So you got two hosses. You volunteer

847
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: rolled up? Are you go get rolled up? And what's

848
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: getting rolled up? As you go down there and take

849
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: that ass? Will take that rat pack one? Thanks for show.

850
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna stint that hard down Your name floats and

851
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: that's how we build our reputations follows you. I keep

852
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: chilling these cats you fold in the county jail or

853
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: at any point of that motherfucking wall when you go

854
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: to prison. All that niggas a bit that nigga folks

855
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: up he ran and pc up from woo who they're

856
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: gonna come with you. And that's what I tell these

857
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: little cats. I just I just uh hit this little cat.

858
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: This little cat he went and shot somebody. Then he

859
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: nanny in jail, nanny talking about shooting his motherfucker on

860
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: his bump. The niggative shot was his home voice, sitting

861
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: over there listening joint. Now this cat is whooping on

862
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: his ass. But you know, I think, Homie, no no,

863
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: and I just sitting a lot of cats up in

864
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: that motherfucker banging like the blow Montre was. Motherfucker. You

865
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: had to be somebody being ready to fight because when

866
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: the gates racked, nigga, you better slide on in there

867
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: and your business or we're gonna we made sit called

868
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: Buster week. Bro. Obviously, we we were sitting back many

869
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 1: hums again and like this, it's too many bust. See

870
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: this is again. We had rules and all we knew

871
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: was in order for us to be dominant, a dominant force,

872
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: we may be smaller numbers, but then when we move,

873
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: we move it and that's the only way we're gonna

874
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: give respect from the crypts. So that's how we moved

875
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: his bloods no matter what's sets. So we came up

876
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: with this idea. But we don't have Buster Weeks from

877
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: here on every year. I don't give a fun what neighborhood.

878
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 1: You bet not harvest the nigga to play their favoritism,

879
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: or we're gonna come roll DP y'all up for me.

880
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: So it was rude. So the cats who even ran

881
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: their hoods from the twenties to Batty to the Youngles

882
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: to a p b S to the Nickson to Swans

883
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: to the lowest parts west side part rules. All of

884
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: us were thorough and we played by the rules. If

885
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: one our little homies gout inline that nigga was a buster,

886
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: didn't harvest that nigga going in there, boy, then get

887
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: down and take that fight, man, that show you ain't

888
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: no buster, Tom sick monster. And you used to get

889
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: them shout, and a lot of cats coming there, and

890
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: and and and they they want to be a blood

891
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: you if you came past thetestion. I don't see niggas

892
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: get their ass with with house shoes, get your grass

893
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: up there on the toilet ship like that so that

894
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: now they don't have that down, so it's all so easy.

895
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: And they come there going in and out, but they

896
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: don't have that like they used to have it back

897
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: then that's what they need back. I bet you have

898
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: any motherfucker's gonna be game banging. I don't see a

899
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: lot of these niggas get raped and then come home

900
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: still sacking and their mothers. Well, I would tell people,

901
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: if you look at the statistics in the nineteen eighties

902
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: in terms of homicides, attempt homicides, violent crime, the eighties

903
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: is the most violent decade that has ever seen survived

904
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: Bro to survive through a time frame. When Los Angeles

905
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: we were we were laughed at first and foremost by

906
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: all coastes and East coast, South, the Midwest. Oh them

907
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: dumb assholes over their game. Bang they killing each other.

908
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: We were laughing. And now the whole world memican with

909
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, the whole entire world, every neighborhood they called

910
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: themselves for hood You're memic in Los Angeles. For the record, Man,

911
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: you didn't had no hoods down there, deep South Carolina,

912
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: North Carolina. You memberic in Los Angeles. You didn't have

913
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: no hoods in n y C. Bro, you memeric in

914
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. And then a lot of these hoods. If

915
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't really a real official individual who came to

916
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: the Turfs and these other bike coastal sets and it

917
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: was a real official individual, they don't make your hood official.

918
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 1: Needs the ship ain't even official. You feel, I'm saying,

919
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: you want some internet game banking, So you want some

920
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: internet membership, ship, which is what the whole half of

921
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: the world, in the whole section is off for right now,

922
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 1: all your motherfucker's Internet members. You're not even street gangers,

923
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: your Internet members. So this is why we have all

924
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: the rookies that we have, man, because there's, like I said,

925
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: gang bangers is trying to get the hell out of

926
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: it or find another way because they're doing all the

927
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: time for the for the real ship that's being done

928
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: out there in the streets. While the gang members glorify

929
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: the ship and get the credit forward, game members are

930
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: the one dropping and fall into going to prison. Man

931
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: and Dine, you know what I'm saying. Now, you mentioned

932
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: all these projects and Watts. Um, Now, if you grew

933
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: up in l A, you know this stuff. But we

934
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: got listeners from all over the world on the Gangster

935
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast, and I want to spend a little bit

936
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: of time of talking about how WATTS is physically designed

937
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: and the projects, the housing projects, not just the Nickerson's

938
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: but all four of them. And you you got a

939
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: little background and knowledge of that. Well, let's just say, um,

940
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to give two much because a lot

941
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: of the information that I will be speaking on is

942
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: inside my movie. So I need everybody go tap in

943
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 1: and make sure you why the Truths. When it released,

944
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: Truths America's greatest untold true story and it's about the

945
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: aftermath of the Peace Treaty. Um wats itself. All four

946
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: housing projects was developed based on World War one and

947
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: two man so a lot of those projects. That's why

948
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 1: they look like army barracks. So all concrete still concrete bricks,

949
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: straight walls, you know everything every war there is not

950
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: a wooden wall or or um what you call um

951
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: uh it's a name for the chalk wall for the

952
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: but there's all concretes. Just put it like this, all

953
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: concrete barrack walls, steal in bricks and so these projects

954
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: are built because during the wars, a lot of the

955
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: mothers who were single moms, who had husbands and sons

956
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: that went off the war. This was their low income

957
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: of way of being able to have housing that was affordable. However,

958
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: it was a twist of FLEXX that came about. And

959
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 1: again I don't want to get deep into it because

960
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: it's inside my movie. As to how all these hundreds

961
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: and thousands and thousands of blacks got stuck right in Watts,

962
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: right within the community of Watts, because at one point

963
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: in time when Los Angeles opened up, because it was

964
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: so segregated where you know, you had to being Watts.

965
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: There was no going to Compton, South Central Loan Beats

966
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: all white, predominant white. I mean, this is this is

967
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: how a part of the gang structure came about. You know,

968
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: force clicks in the neighborhoods to protect the neighborhoods from

969
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: the white boys who was coming down from Compton from

970
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: the farms, because at that time was all farm lande

971
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: and so they was coming from the farms. They was

972
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: literally beating up black dudes. You know. Uh, just when

973
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: the leather jackets kicked in. You know, so a lot

974
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: of the clicks for them, clicks to protect the communities

975
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: be long before games came about. So um, the Nickerson

976
00:53:54,719 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: was actually birth. It's one thousand, sixty six units, have

977
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: the biggest housing units the developed in in the state

978
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: of the Los Angeles period. It's one thousand and sixty

979
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: six units. Then you have the Jordan Downs which was

980
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: developed in nineteen fifty four, and then you have the

981
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: first project that was developed. Again I don't want to

982
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: spill too much of this information because it's inside my film.

983
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: But hy Santa Villas was the first housing projects that

984
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: was built period before the Jordan Downs to Nixon or

985
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: Imperial Courts. The Villas was born and it was birth

986
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: in ninety four. So that's from Compton Avenue to Imperial

987
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: Highway to Wimberton to ninety nine and Alameda from the

988
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: back of the industrials. Those are the segment points of

989
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: all four major housing projects. They all climberate together. They're

990
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: like not even a half a mile to mile apart.

991
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: You have the Jordan Downs across the tracks were separates,

992
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: the Jordan Downs and the Perial Courts is the tracks.

993
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: The tracks has always divided all four housing projects, and

994
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: that's the separation now. I was. I drove there a

995
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: few months ago and I noticed they were tearing down

996
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: some of the Jordan's Downs and they were building these

997
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: nice looking quote unquote condos. Don't go there, please, don't

998
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: go there. Please, whatever you do, whatever you do, please

999
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: don't go there. E and use that word. They were

1000
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: building something nice. They come out here. Take it over

1001
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: a smart one, you know. I did a video about this.

1002
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: When I went, I took a whole little camera crew

1003
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: over there, and we talked about how it's getting gentrified.

1004
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: In fact, I'm gonna tell you what is some of

1005
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: the most valuable land in Los Angeles, because one it's

1006
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: a B line of downtown l A. And it's a

1007
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: bee line to the airport, and it's like the central

1008
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: it's one of the best central locations. So yeah, these

1009
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: people want Watts. They want to own Wats, they want

1010
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: to take over Wats. How about that in fifty years

1011
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: I even said, for fifty years from now watch and look,

1012
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna recognize that something that was us. They

1013
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: gave that to us, that was us. Now they want

1014
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 1: to back this. The crazy part about it, a black

1015
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: couple the Wats is how Watson was developed. They one

1016
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: to bought the land, the Watch. They're the one. That's

1017
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: how Watson was developed. It was a black couple. So

1018
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: now it was like they gave that to us as

1019
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: our reparation. Okay, y'all, this is y'all the w putty

1020
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: this way. Listen, a real quick historical point. Again, I

1021
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: don't want to give away too much because this the

1022
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: ship is vital. But the reason why the w is

1023
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: a w before anything existed in this city of Los Angeles.

1024
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: Everything that came south or the border on the train

1025
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: had to stop and get off. In Watch you couldn't

1026
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: take your ways downtown or as a rat, so you

1027
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: had to get off. And everybody coming from Texas, North Carolina,

1028
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: South Carolina, Alabama, Little Rock, our parents, everything that was

1029
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: descending from the South staged in watts And that's how,

1030
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: it's a reason how they all got stuck. You feel me,

1031
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: and you gotta you gotta see the movie in order

1032
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: to find that out. You know, I was like a

1033
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: hundred years ago when Wattson is all black and now

1034
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: here we are. They want it back. They want it back,

1035
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: and they're gonna come for Compton to James Women. They

1036
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: already started. Yeah, they're changing part of Compton little by little.

1037
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah Rancho Google manga. Yeah, they changing. They changing by

1038
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: sections though, they're putting up new lights and building new homes.

1039
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's the Yeah, it's all the

1040
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: game plan. But it's a trip out. Like you said,

1041
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: they kind of gave blacks this land because they didn't

1042
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: want them going to the West side. They didn't want

1043
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: them going downtown. So here's your place. Watts. But here

1044
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: we are a hundred years later. Um, we want watch back,

1045
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: and I wish, I wish I could go into I

1046
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: know my directors listening right now. Shout out to Drew backaack,

1047
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: you know what saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Basket, Dwayne Snipe, Holmes,

1048
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: Dorel's that's my cash man. Shout out to my team,

1049
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: Uh Andrew, But yeah, man, I really I would love

1050
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: to give you guys a direct insiders the reason why

1051
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: to watch the film. Man, you just mentioned reason. You

1052
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: just mentioned Snipe, Um his cousin. It was part of

1053
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: a very monumental moment in Watt's history. Well you go

1054
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: ahead tell the death of Pico, Well the death of

1055
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: her repeat, rest in peace. Man, It's what again, Gray

1056
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: Street and the pj's were in a very very vital

1057
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: tid war in the last of the eighties when they

1058
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: were allies. They actually went together against us as one

1059
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: point of time as well as Um you got the

1060
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: first time my fits. You know, you got to have

1061
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: game Watts front Streets, so everything. All those guys were allies,

1062
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: all of them, they all got along at one point

1063
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: side all allies, but the Jordan Downs and the pj's

1064
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 1: were the major umbrella over all the rest of those

1065
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: cripts from Watts, so Gray Street and Pj's had a

1066
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: big falling autum and my guy rested peace. Tony Bogard

1067
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: arrestued peace. Tony Bogard was a major factor over there

1068
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: in imperial courts, which was behind the water took place.

1069
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: The young baby Loves came through and chopped him up

1070
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: like the bonding man man. They had to put him

1071
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: back together like the bonding man man. So Tony Bogo

1072
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: after that he went on one. So all his soldiers

1073
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: he sent them, so it was niggas was at it. Now.

1074
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: Meanwhile us that takes a lot of the weight out

1075
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: for us. Well, okay, ship we we can take a

1076
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: break now. We don't kick back statics there because and

1077
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: now one of them niggas in our way because they

1078
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: at each other. But then, of course, us being who

1079
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: we were when I say us the bunny on us

1080
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: not Torios Nicks and going bunny h us, we we

1081
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: took advantage of that time. We were smashing on both

1082
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: sets because we knew they was into it, so we

1083
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: were smash. The mortal story is that Tony Bogard being

1084
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: a part of that war, and then Henry Pico was

1085
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: the statics at the time to growing up in the pj's.

1086
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: So when Henry's death came about, just before his death

1087
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: came about sister the Home Girls sister from p Z

1088
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: as mother Teresa, which is the homie snipe Dwayne Holmes mother.

1089
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: They were already having these underground meetings of how can

1090
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: they bring peace and monks theirselves just forwards the Jordan

1091
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: Downs and the Perial courts, so Darusharell's and the Keel

1092
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: and all them. Again, it was a part of that movement.

1093
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,959
Speaker 1: So that movement collided toward us as well eventually, because

1094
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: they was like, we gotta get the knicks in the

1095
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: board in order to even put this ship together. We

1096
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: got to get them involved, but first let's deal with us.

1097
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: So they were dealing with their selves. So that's why

1098
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: it started a year prior before ninety two and starting

1099
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: the ninety one, so they started having these underground meetings

1100
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: trying to get their shipped together. Then finally what was

1101
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: the pivot point of it was Herry Pico's death for

1102
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: rest of peace because something had to happen at a

1103
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: at a real real Dragg Dregg um too much dramatic

1104
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: moment to bring the community together, not a gang banging moment.

1105
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: I were this gang leader over here, this gang leader

1106
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: over here, this individual over here got hit, so that

1107
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: bought people together. No, it had to be a real moment.

1108
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: And that moment was all of us. When I say

1109
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: all of us, all four housing projects, was fed up

1110
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: and tied them crooked ass cops anyway, because was killed

1111
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: by the police. Are the police. So when that happened

1112
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: with the L A p D. It was a fed

1113
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: up moment, like fuck these motherfucker's man. And see, we

1114
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: grew up in I Ever, in our time, we weren't

1115
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: scared of the police. That the police knew they had. Hell,

1116
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: they knew you couldn't coming in the communities and just

1117
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: do anything back then because they know the community wasn't

1118
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: going for that ship there, Rocky call up do all

1119
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: kinds of ship back then. Then you look up, you

1120
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: should be chained up to a light post man. We

1121
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: were together with junity. Nowadays, you can take one of

1122
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: the skinny as putey as punk white wait police from

1123
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,959
Speaker 1: two buck two pretty been a uniform he can built

1124
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: through all these neighborhoods and everybody around. What kind of

1125
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: shit is that? I thought we were game bangers? Well,

1126
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: what are you running from one, right, boy? Waiting from

1127
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: your neighborhood, you know what I'm saying. So it's like

1128
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: with that, Pico's death sparked up interest in the community.

1129
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: So now Great Street and p J's they got they

1130
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: they bought their ship together immediately. So now they came

1131
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: towards the Nixon toward us. So that's when they spearheaded

1132
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: my Big Homy Donny Boy, because Donnie Boys an organizer

1133
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: from the hood, Big Hank as well, and Big Bobby

1134
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: Bobby Busby. So once say howder the them, the Big

1135
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: Hank told him, all right, let me uh, let me

1136
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: how to feel my young homies man, that I know

1137
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: this actively out here in the street to represent our hood.

1138
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: That we need to holder them and pour them me

1139
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: at first, because if they're not a part of it,

1140
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna be the ones that's gonna structure and keep

1141
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: the youngers out here. And I was one of them.

1142
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: So I got the phone call from my relative, Big

1143
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: head Man that they was having a meeting at the massage. Yeah,

1144
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: I said, brother, who having a meeting? He said, you

1145
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: ain't heard, he said, did the Great Streets and the

1146
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: Pj's many getting together are talking about p I said,

1147
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: but we're having no motherfucker peace treaty. Nigga out your mind?

1148
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: Do you know such success just got killed last money?

1149
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: We just had the very man we I wish I

1150
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: would catch one of the niggas over there. We're in

1151
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: the meeting, he said. The more I was out of town,

1152
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: I flew home. I went up there about fifteen in

1153
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: my homies. We marched up in a bit strapped up.

1154
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 1: So when I got to the door, brother moves out.

1155
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,959
Speaker 1: He was asking me to take my shoes. Somebody taking

1156
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: my motherfuck shoes all blood. I just walked straight on

1157
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: their door. So my homies fall up pursuit. Now we're

1158
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: in the minds. When I walked in the mins, I

1159
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: literally could see p J. Watts on the left, Great

1160
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: Streets on the right. Few hat gangs sprinkled over here

1161
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: in a few front streets over here, just a few,

1162
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,919
Speaker 1: but primarily Pj's and drawing downs. And when I looked,

1163
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: I've seen the least seven and eight of my rivals

1164
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: that I need to put hands on right now. Why

1165
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: I got the opportunity because I may not catch these

1166
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: niggas again. I need this and I ain't talking about this,

1167
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: no fade. We demonesting these niggas right now. So I

1168
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: spoke on that moment even when I got up to

1169
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: the speak in the mic, because I sit back for

1170
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: a minute, this to cast speak, and that's where it

1171
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: really kind of sparked my interest because I'm like, okay,

1172
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: I just heard a big nose punch. He'll get up

1173
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: there and speak, man, And this nigga is a rider.

1174
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: He's a real crip. D drawing down baby loads Puncho

1175
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: is a real crip. I said, this hurt his nigget

1176
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: up and speaking. He's talking about peace. Oh shoot, they

1177
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: got Darci all over there, but these niggs, it's crimps.

1178
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: And I know him. I gave bank to get some

1179
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: going up, so I'm like, hold up, it may kind

1180
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: of be interesting. So now moves like he putting me

1181
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: on the spot. Brother beach, would you like to speak? Yeah,

1182
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna speaking. Home by I got out, said listen man,

1183
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: I said, how the hell we're gonna have peace when

1184
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: deaths just occurred. So basically I started speaking and ask

1185
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: the questions and questions was answered upon those time frames

1186
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: as to this is why we're trying to stop in

1187
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: and seize it, bro, and we need a brother like

1188
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: you on on on a board man. So yeah, bro.

1189
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: So that moment, at that time, I said, well, I'm

1190
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: gonna tell you all right now at home, boy, straight up,

1191
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: I said, I came into motherfucking man to catch bodies.

1192
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: Straight up, I said, me and my homies, we're coming

1193
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: as mother for the straight up knocked down heads and

1194
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 1: catch bodies. Because half you niggers already know, man, what's

1195
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: been took place, what your motherfucker nigg has been done,

1196
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: and your reputations on. Boy, So for us to just

1197
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: swallow that, I don't. I don't know, man, but this

1198
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: is some real ship right here. You know what I'm saying.

1199
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: I saw, I'm gonna respect the meeting today, my niggas.

1200
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna respect that. I'm gonna stand down. I respect

1201
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: the meeting, I said, Man moved here, and Donnie big

1202
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: un y'a gotta give me a little time. Man, let

1203
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: me thank on this, let me contemplate. So me and

1204
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: my niggas we left, you know what I'm saying, and

1205
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: we got on kicked back talk to to more ready

1206
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: big hit, you know, a couple of other homies, my

1207
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: homeboy Frankie Hood because Hud was with me, he is

1208
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: one of the Castle was with me and uh talk

1209
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: to the homies and I just like, you know, trying

1210
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: to voice see what their opinion was like. Because the

1211
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: hardest thing about bringing peace to any community is when

1212
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: you take your leadership and you put your leadership on

1213
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: the line. Because now what that does and make others

1214
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: look at you in a certain way because you ain't

1215
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: that that devil, that badass nigger that you was that

1216
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: when you hit the corner. Oh old, more is coming

1217
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: now you you you you turning your life over. You're

1218
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: trying to change, to become something different, so people start

1219
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: looking at your different way. So the hardest ship for

1220
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: me when I turned over the leaf to agree with

1221
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: peace treaty and become a part of that advocate, being

1222
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: a real advocate and really solid win it. Like I

1223
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: ain't even play no favoritism. Rules is rules because anything

1224
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: and I'm a part of I played by the rules.

1225
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: So I ain't even let one of my little homies

1226
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: go over there just done and they and I know

1227
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: he did this, not know about it and not played

1228
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: by the rules. No rules is rules, boy, we have nothing.

1229
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: We're not we're not setting the Standardgico. Then, so I

1230
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 1: played by the rules. So a lot of cats didn't

1231
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: play by those rules who were in positions. They were

1232
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: still playing under the table, playing favoritism sit right here

1233
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: in the meeting. But they sent a niggas because they infiltrate.

1234
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: So it was a lot we had to deal with.

1235
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: So for me, the hardest part was taking my reputation,

1236
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,439
Speaker 1: which is solid right now today, just like it was then.

1237
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: I have no schmut. I don't think he said about me?

1238
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: Is that nigga's grimy, he's crazy, he's the head bust.

1239
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: You can say all all you want, all the names above,

1240
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: but you will not call me snitch. You will not say, oh,

1241
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: this nigga ran out on these niggas you did, dizzy boy,

1242
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: They never happened. Straight up. I know when they say

1243
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: the last of the dime breed, I am a part

1244
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: of that dime breed. Man. I noticed for living fact,

1245
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: like I tell all these young things all the time,

1246
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna live to tell my own damn stories. You

1247
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: fee what I'm saying, straight up, man, Alright, so you

1248
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: got this film coming out in I know your people

1249
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: don't really want you to devote too much information, But

1250
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: what's different about the story that you're telling to that

1251
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: we should definitely go check it out because we've heard

1252
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: so many stories about the gang, truths, all of that.

1253
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: What separates the truth and what makes it different just

1254
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: because it's the truth, it's the actual origin of how

1255
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: this ship always stablished, how I start? Okay, who really

1256
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: put the truth together? All the questions asked by people

1257
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: like where did did it started in the l A.

1258
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: You know, it didn't, or it started itself since it

1259
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: was in comfortable, or it didn't brothers and wait started

1260
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: to choose. So this movie, it actually gives that the

1261
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: community in which I'm from, all those guys who were involved,

1262
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: as well as females and males, from parents to the children.

1263
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: It gives that actual community their props, their significant props

1264
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: in that moment for twelve years, because we didn't only

1265
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: save lives, we knocked down the crime way bro feel

1266
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: we see, we were so up against it. The police

1267
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: came to us. Man one particular POETIM again, I want

1268
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: to put his name out think because it's in the film,

1269
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: but he told Ikeys surreals. Ikea said, man, ain't you

1270
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: glad that the peace treaty? Goddamn mine? Am I glad

1271
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: that y'all having a peace treaty? He said, let me

1272
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: tell you something. I put my kids through college through

1273
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: y'all factory. I get paid sixty thousand, some thousand dollars

1274
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: extra just for overtime for babysitting you assholes. You think

1275
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 1: I want to see y'all going peace? And that's the

1276
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: true moment, true. I ain't no made up story to

1277
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 1: a mode to to o g S two the hombies,

1278
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: Tony Bogart, my homeboy camp Dog. They're sitting back, kicking

1279
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: back in the cut, chilling smokes and Bood just doing

1280
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: the peace tree origin. Two real niggers from different neighborhoods

1281
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 1: getting some money together, two real ones. They sit there

1282
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: and Witten's the police rode through the neighborhood and do

1283
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 1: a fucking drive by with flagsz one eyeball witness. We

1284
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: knew it was going on, but we didn't have no

1285
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: perdent evidence just yet. Too bad the cell phones was

1286
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: now back. We had so many law suits. Hommies. Yeah,

1287
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: I'm telling you but I've heard stories. I've heard these

1288
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: a million times. The police they would instigate conflict because

1289
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: they didn't want to support it. If you win that war,

1290
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 1: they would take you and then just save you from

1291
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: nickers and they'll take you into Jordan downs from the hood.

1292
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: They didn't take you to sent Tanna and and then

1293
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: drop you off and there get of the things. Ship

1294
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: we got some's old school, ain't no movie ship. That's

1295
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: that's their politics of making sure that that throwing stayed

1296
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 1: the way it is. So they participated. You had crypt police,

1297
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: then you had blood police. For me, they was actually

1298
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 1: blood police. They come to theirborhood. They favorite the bloods,

1299
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: so they're gonna bring an enemy over the dumping right

1300
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 1: on off in the neighborhood. They know this is rude, man,

1301
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: this invition mean that dude, They what's gonna happenhen they

1302
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: kill him? You know what I'm saying. But they know

1303
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: and didn't care. So we had to deal with so

1304
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: much man. So again what I what I was saying

1305
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: and putting out there for me, that was the hardest

1306
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: part of my life at that time was taking that

1307
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: stand to become that man to say, you know what

1308
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: I've been wearing this red devil suit man since the

1309
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: early seventies. I said, when my parents died, I became

1310
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 1: the devil himself. Here it. I went all out and

1311
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: I stayed active for twenty twenty six years. I'm telling

1312
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: about straight consistently. So I earned that name, and that's

1313
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: what people saw me up in the streets. He the devil.

1314
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: And I was proud of that ship once upon the

1315
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: time of my life because that's who I was. But

1316
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: now I got my wings. Hon't me for me. I

1317
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: had flipped all that ship around, gave my heart, my

1318
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: life to God. Uh flipped the script, went back to

1319
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: school to take my degrees, and you know what I'm

1320
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: saying to entertainment, Uh invested my own money into my

1321
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 1: own businesses and things of that nature. Man. So I

1322
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: put this film together so that it would be able

1323
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: to show America the historical points of Watts, the birth

1324
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 1: of Watts, the birth of the after math for the

1325
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 1: peace Treaty, and all the individuals who were involved and

1326
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: how they saved lives consectly for twelve straight years, no crimes,

1327
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: all the crime rate, everything dropped in our community, I

1328
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: mean dropped, and even from it being a dominant effect

1329
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: to throughout the city. Crimes race dropped in the city, Compton,

1330
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 1: long Beat, South Shister, they dropped statistically. They did not

1331
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: want the news to hear that ship, and they did

1332
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: not play it. They did not play the ship in

1333
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: um sexist for people to hear it, radio, radio, airplane, none,

1334
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: that because they didn't want the people to hear that.

1335
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 1: That was too positive for That was the Darrel Gates

1336
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 1: right at the end of the That was too positive

1337
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 1: for the community. And he was one of the probably,

1338
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, worst police chiefs we've ever had in the field.

1339
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: You know, um, you know, it's crazy to I end

1340
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: up meeting that dude. I met him in seven check

1341
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: ship this out. He had to quit. And after he

1342
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: quit and I used to say all these terrible things

1343
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 1: about him, He's the most racist chief. And then one

1344
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: day he hits me up. He's got a radio show

1345
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: called The Police Connection, so he hits me. I was like, hey, Alex,

1346
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: I want you to come on our show. I'm like,

1347
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: let's do it. I'm I'm about to square off with

1348
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: the former chief of the l a p D. When

1349
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: I got to talk to this old man, I swear

1350
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: to God, man, this guy was one of the nicest

1351
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: mother efforts that I had ever met. And I'm like, wait,

1352
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: you supposed to yeah, but I said, no, you ain't.

1353
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna trick me this time. You ain't tricking me.

1354
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't know he was gonna be this nice.

1355
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: But we ain't gonna forget about your record, though. We

1356
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: got to talk about your record. But then he passed

1357
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: a few years a few years after that. But yeah,

1358
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: that was the tail end of one of the worst

1359
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: police periods we've ever had. So you got him in

1360
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: the movie, and I'm glad you got him at called

1361
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 1: There's a Bunch of Monkeys. Yeah, he just say they

1362
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: asked him a question. Now I can't say that. Well,

1363
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: what I'll say is that he is the protege of

1364
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: William Parker. William Parker was the chief of nineteen fifty

1365
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: and he came in there hiring Southern whites, bringing them

1366
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: from Alabama, Mississippi into police. Okay, so if you know

1367
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: William Parker's racist history, he was his driver. Daryl g

1368
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: was William Parker's driver. So basically, when we got Gates

1369
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: for I don't know, fifteen years, we basically got William Parker.

1370
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: We got a little a baby was Yeah, we got

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01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: little William Parker. He's never been successful with just anybody

1372
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: up under your in your cabinet. You have to pick

1373
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 1: and choose who you want, who you know gonna be

1374
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: there and gonna listen to you and gonna gonna take

1375
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: that fall for you. And that's what he did. He

1376
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: got all when when he got all his people that

1377
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 1: was down for the ride. Oh, we've been knock these

1378
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: monkeys and and and let it roll, and that's what

1379
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: they did. But then at the end of the day,

1380
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: like after the ride, they bashing him because he wouldn't

1381
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: setting nobody in because he was scared to go. Yeah,

1382
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 1: things start to change after the day because he was

1383
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: he was sucking up big time, and you know, people

1384
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: starting to get him. And the mayor, Mayor Bradley, the

1385
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: first black mayor of l A, the only black man.

1386
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 1: Let They weren't even talking. They didn't even have a communication.

1387
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: The mayor and the chief of police don't even like

1388
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: each other. May Bradley, Mary Bradley put a bounty out

1389
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: on my head. In three put a bounty on out

1390
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 1: on my head. And my homie Ramsey may k big

1391
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: Hook and a few other j's. Man, you know we

1392
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: it's called Shootout on the Pier Highways. That's an upcoming

1393
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: movie I got that I'm working on right now and

1394
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 1: products his three part mini series Man and it's called

1395
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 1: Shootout on the Pier of Highways, based on a truth star.

1396
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 1: It's based on my life, Me and about seventeen of

1397
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 1: my homies out the projects. It was ended up being

1398
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: my crimes. And what happened was we went to war.

1399
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: I took about thirty two Bonnie hundred of war Man.

1400
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: We went to war three days and three nights with

1401
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Cheffs, slash l A, p d S Detectives

1402
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: and undercoversum. Because the Hawkins family killed my little homeboy,

1403
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: live boy Tony Uh. The brother by the name of

1404
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: James Hawkins, which was a beast. His nigga was a

1405
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 1: monster back then. You feel me. He was a real

1406
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 1: third killer. He wasn't no punk by a long shot.

1407
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: This nigga was a real hitter. He was already on

1408
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 1: the street for knocking down the police. He was on

1409
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: the run for San Francisco for breaking out of San Quentin,

1410
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,839
Speaker 1: So he had a lot of anger build up. Somehow

1411
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: him and my little homie lb Tony Eminem and it's

1412
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: Nigga Cody. They was messing around on the period of hustling,

1413
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: getting some money and they end up going to the

1414
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: arcade across the street, which is the Hawkins, and dude

1415
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: took a sad off shot gunn and stuck it in

1416
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: my little homeboy's chest and blew his harder. And at

1417
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: that time this is what like the Ntason Harding shooting.

1418
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: When Tupac was talking about the little girl. The old

1419
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: man with his daddy, that's who shot the little girl

1420
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: from Carver Park and killed her, not even a year

1421
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: prior to before they killed my homie. So when they

1422
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: shot when ours in our community, that set us off.

1423
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: We ain't having this ship, y'all. They ain't going down

1424
01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 1: like that. So I was. I was some where sitting

1425
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: down getting my head, Brady Man, and when the world

1426
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: came to me, they just killed little Tony Rinsey looking

1427
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: for you. So I went and met up with my homies,

1428
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 1: and I'm from Bonnie Hunters and my homies and a

1429
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,560
Speaker 1: lot boys. You know, it's just a difference between a

1430
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: Lot boys and Bonnie Hunters. I'm riginally I'm a original

1431
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: of the Bonnie Hunter than REGGI is one of the

1432
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: founders a lot boys. You know what I'm saying, Big hoog,

1433
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 1: big low for Rest, you know, uh tc, rest in peace,

1434
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: my homie Scoop, rest in peace. There was my my

1435
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: g lot boy homies right there. The foe was really

1436
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: g Lot boy hommies. So when when the homie hotted

1437
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 1: at me, we want to formulate a crew, and I

1438
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: wondered how to field the Bunny Hunter homies and told him, man,

1439
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get out with the homies. Dog put working

1440
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 1: and they just killed the homies. So we we went

1441
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: to shmash basically, and they turned into a shootout three

1442
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 1: days and three nights with the sheriff. However, we didn't

1443
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 1: know we were in two with the police. The first night.

1444
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: We're thinking they just wanted got more family members and

1445
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 1: Barry Kenny they set in their house. But all the

1446
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: time it was sharp shooters snipers. Feel me because a

1447
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: couple of my homies got shot. My homie m and

1448
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 1: then got a patch knocked out his ass, got shot

1449
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 1: in the ass olterally had passed knocked out his ass.

1450
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: So you know, another one of my homies got shot,

1451
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 1: so it was like it was something that really very serious.

1452
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: So it became a real popular, uh kangaroo case where

1453
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: they had us in kangaroo court the CCB. So PBS

1454
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 1: end up buying the rights and they put a story

1455
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 1: to it. So when we're in the county jail, they

1456
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: interviewed us, and at this time, I'm not really aware

1457
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 1: of what's going on. So now over the years, by

1458
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 1: me being a filmmaker and getting into film, I started

1459
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: doing my research and then my asks. At that time,

1460
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: she she was like and she said, you know about

1461
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: shootout on the pier how because she was on the

1462
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: internet research and year was that? By the way, Oh,

1463
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:53,719
Speaker 1: so PBS did a two part series on us on TV,

1464
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,799
Speaker 1: took our interviews us, a cor and everything, and shot

1465
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: it and aired it on TV. So we never knew this,

1466
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 1: so we never ate got no way off. What I

1467
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: did was I did the research, so I went in

1468
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 1: and I bought it. I obtained the rights to it,

1469
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: so I owned the story because the story is us.

1470
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: They don't own the rights to the story. So I

1471
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: wrote the story. So I ended up writing the script

1472
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 1: to and everything and the storyline to it. So now

1473
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: it's a three part mini series, and I'm developing to

1474
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 1: put together to put out Roads based on a true

1475
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: story shoot out on the Pier Highway. Man, Well, you know,

1476
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 1: I got a theory that the l a p d

1477
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: has a shoot first policy when they're coming to the Nickersons. Yeah,

1478
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: it's always been I think it had to happen first,

1479
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: and nobody's really investigating, like the Southeast Division for just

1480
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: being there. They're just they're just going there and just

1481
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 1: start busting and there's and this goes back to the seventies.

1482
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: If you do your research, police been killing unarmed brothers

1483
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 1: in the Nickerson Gardens going back to the seventies. And

1484
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: remember the one where the where the Homers was on

1485
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: the roof and they were just popping. And a lot

1486
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 1: of people say, man, that these guys must be so

1487
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: evil to shoot at the police. But what they don't

1488
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,640
Speaker 1: understand is that the police been coming through there for

1489
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 1: decades just busting some When those brothers was on the

1490
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 1: top of the projects busting back. I said, this is

1491
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 1: a result of all the oppression. It was just that

1492
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: it was this man, it came with the territory. That's

1493
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,799
Speaker 1: what we were supposed to been doing. Man, protecting our community.

1494
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: You can't just coming here and just dog our elders out,

1495
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 1: dog out people out, and just do what the funk

1496
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: you want to do. And we gang bangers were claiming

1497
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: this turf that we're gonna protect this turf once again.

1498
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: I am the founder, Me and my homeboy Google, right,

1499
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 1: Big Google just got out of doing twenties six twenty

1500
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: seven years. Another another g homy from the hood, a

1501
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 1: great brother, smart, intelligent, my homeboy Bolo, Big Bolo. You

1502
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Me, I Google and my homeboy

1503
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 1: Philip Thornton. We were out late night and we were

1504
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 1: surfacing the neighborhood and at this time, you know this

1505
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 1: cat ain't Bone Rest in peace from Jordan Downs was

1506
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 1: one main hitters over there. He was one of the

1507
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: shock callers, so he was on top of our list.

1508
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: We get to this dude that that knocks our points

1509
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: spread up before as our reputation, so I was always

1510
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: on his head. Any time I've seen Bone, I don't

1511
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 1: care what. And he was like party five or seven

1512
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: or eight, nine years older than me. So any time

1513
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: I've seen him, any of the Brims, the Phillip Days,

1514
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: any of them cats immediately when we see them red

1515
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,560
Speaker 1: light on. It's on. Now when you say when not

1516
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: talking about blood, Yeah, the brams for me, real crips.

1517
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: So any of them dudes, it was on on site,

1518
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 1: wasn't no give him a pass? Hold up and let's

1519
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 1: talked about it its own site period. So just just

1520
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: coming from that element and just being in that environment

1521
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 1: and being a part of that, you know what I'm saying,

1522
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: To survive it, it's it's you know, to survive those

1523
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 1: eighties and the element of the eighties to wear world

1524
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 1: and not just wats. It was Compton Loan Beach, not

1525
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: so much Loan Beach at that time, but definitely Compton

1526
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: South Central, Watts the Bottoms bro You couldn't walk outside,

1527
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,640
Speaker 1: walk down the street with no fucking colors on. It

1528
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: was unheard of. Motherfucker, right right up and jump right out.

1529
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: Where are you from? What me? Come? Where you from?

1530
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: And you got on whatever colors it is. That's how

1531
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: serious gang banging was, and that's the way it was done.

1532
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: So in that error to come out of its vibra,

1533
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: and I'd have been here, I'd have been knocked down

1534
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: three times different three cases, shot in the face of

1535
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: my head right here forty four. I got here with

1536
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 1: the K two times, and I'm saying I saw it

1537
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,560
Speaker 1: right from my tiple and my fabruler and uh, the

1538
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: staff been in the penitentially stabbed up a couple of times. Boocoo,

1539
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,679
Speaker 1: ship load of riots. You know what, I'm sending me prison,

1540
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: real riots and where it was fight to death? What? No, Oh,

1541
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: it's some play place ship real Domestican mafias ain't playing

1542
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 1: with us. They trying to knock our head off. So

1543
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 1: we need to come together, man, and can join do

1544
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: what we do when we do come together as a force,

1545
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 1: we smashed. So I been down that path with the

1546
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 1: ridders of the rutners man, Mr James a K mob

1547
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: James my homie thirty years plus. It better, man. We

1548
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: didn't been behind the walls, real walls, saying Quentin folsome

1549
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: Tracy bro. It was a time we couldn't go to

1550
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:18,759
Speaker 1: Tracy because the crypts took over there was it flipped.

1551
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: Soon you got off a bus, you got to put

1552
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 1: work in in orientation. That's the only way you get

1553
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 1: rolled up, or you getting rolled up, you're gonna vot

1554
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 1: telepoint or hey, I'm a blood That ship going on

1555
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 1: your record. See what ship you couldn't hide because the

1556
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: convicts we ran this that paper you right now, We

1557
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: ran the paperwork game. See what no computers? Everything was

1558
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 1: paperwork game. So what you're gonna hide because the captains

1559
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 1: in the office, that's one of the home boys. Or

1560
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: we go pay the the end boy, the rand brother boy,

1561
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: white boy, we paid for the information. We go pay.

1562
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: But the convicts ran that ship. And that's why snitching

1563
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 1: was prohibitive, bro, because there was nowhere around it. But

1564
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 1: nowhere around it. Say you seeing that they knew this,

1565
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: and you know what, polies would lie saying we'll protect

1566
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: you maybe like ship, how are you gonna protect my mama?

1567
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 1: How are you gonna stop them from killing my brother?

1568
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 1: And my brother been from the hood to he did nothing.

1569
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: People knew this because those were the rules. You know

1570
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, without through standard rules and those rules

1571
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 1: being broken, man, that should it never been back to

1572
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: where it was. It's society's way comfortable with telling. They

1573
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 1: think that ship is righteous. They think that's the way

1574
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: they now for a person who when I hear rape

1575
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: some little kids, side of minds some kids and did wrong.

1576
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 1: I don't condone the rapist. My whole thing is certain

1577
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: ship is manya business. That didn't have nothing to do

1578
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: with you. Manya domn business. You gotta cry me your crime.

1579
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: You didn't get caught. What is your podcast doing telling

1580
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: the people the whole case? And they didn't even ask you,

1581
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 1: didn't even ask you about the case. They caught you

1582
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: for something. You got busted though you said, well, you

1583
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: know me and my whole boy, we'd rob We don't

1584
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 1: want to, did they robbery and Jude? Wait? Wait wait,

1585
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 1: robbery of Jude? They go straight to their fast said, yeah,

1586
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 1: we got that on the close case file, but it's

1587
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 1: a cold case. We didn't. Thanks gonna look it out.

1588
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 1: And you know when he got three more motherfucker's and

1589
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: got them busted with your sorry adds. See, the rules

1590
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 1: are just different, bro, stay different. And I thank god

1591
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: I have my experience to why I have my experends.

1592
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give it back for nothing in the world,

1593
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: especially God their millennium. Man, So you comfortable with Nino

1594
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 1: Cappuccino and as he is now, I know you can't

1595
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: evenrase the past. Now I had to live with that.

1596
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 1: You can't erase the past. So you take who you

1597
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: was what you were and you put it on into today.

1598
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 1: And this is a man doing what he's supposed to do.

1599
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: Because I feel good being able to get out of

1600
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 1: here and go shopping. From my grandchildren. You know, a

1601
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 1: lot of the homage didn't even make it. They even

1602
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: have one child, didn't even make it to sixteen. You

1603
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I say, we're blessed to

1604
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: be here and then't really like like you, like you

1605
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: speaking on it for people to really understand that. Man,

1606
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 1: brothers had it hard out of here and you come

1607
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: from there here and I'm wrong with it. There's nothing

1608
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: wrong with change, man, I mean change with change comes

1609
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:21,679
Speaker 1: along growth. And for me, for a lot of people

1610
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: that's out there that know my life, so it's so

1611
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: many they really know my life. And the reason why

1612
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't get a lot of the bullshit flashback is

1613
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 1: because niggas know this. That's who we is. I mean,

1614
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: it's when you speak and you want to speak on

1615
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: real ship and a real solid individual, that's where that

1616
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: nigga really is. So it's like I don't have that

1617
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 1: type of jacket where you could put me in that

1618
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 1: floor mat man, where Okay, well what he didn't do

1619
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: this or this didn't happen this way. No, my life

1620
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: is my life, and I speak on logical facts. I

1621
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 1: don't talk about this illogical something the man down the

1622
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 1: street told me. I speak on this ship. I lived,

1623
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: what I know, what I've experienced. You know what I'm saying,

1624
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: And so to look back on those things as to

1625
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 1: who I am today. But I'm proud of myself to

1626
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: be to live and to tell it, especially to another

1627
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,560
Speaker 1: youngster man like look on me that e'ven like like

1628
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: right now, my preacher, to these junces out here, bro,

1629
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: it's fucking gang banging, your gang banging in because we're

1630
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 1: going in. You gang banging in. You're a gang member.

1631
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,759
Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that, and even to my gang bangers.

1632
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: If you're gang banging and you're a gang member, go

1633
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 1: jump off for clips. Some motherfucking where the man, because

1634
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 1: getting no money, you ain't take care of your kids,

1635
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 1: you ain't take care of that woman who really loves

1636
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 1: your Sorry Jackie, just go jump off a cliff, all

1637
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 1: un all you kill us, Just go jump off a

1638
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,600
Speaker 1: cliff because so when you get busted, you want to

1639
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 1: tell on the world you didn't want to do the

1640
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 1: consequence film saying, so, since you're not playing by the rules,

1641
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 1: you don't want to deal with the consequence, Just just

1642
01:28:52,120 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 1: stop jump off a cliff. Hey, uh, you got a

1643
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 1: lot of brothers out there smoking crag Go game. If

1644
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 1: you're smoking crag Go game at sixty and there's two

1645
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:10,879
Speaker 1: thousand and twenty coming, you might as road shoot yourself.

1646
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: Stop sucking a Yeah. And just like you said, if

1647
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 1: you really thinking game banging, it's nothing like it used

1648
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 1: to be. It's a waste of time. And you got

1649
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 1: these little cats doing the seventeen years old, sixteen years old,

1650
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: getting forty five years to life. If that's where you

1651
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,600
Speaker 1: want to end up, keep it push. Let me, let me,

1652
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 1: let me touch on this real fast, real quick. Bro.

1653
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 1: Before we even close out, I want to say, man,

1654
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: for the record, TV Land to all my Bike Coastal

1655
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 1: Gang members out there, all my Bike Coastal gang members.

1656
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 1: You're from the East Coast, from New York first and

1657
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 1: foremost a lot of my New Yorkers, man and know

1658
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 1: me out this. Shout out to all my real ones, man,

1659
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 1: Shout to all my solid and wise man. There's already

1660
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,759
Speaker 1: know two thousand folk, big Cap Neo Cappuccino. I landed

1661
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: in New Jersey, Patterson and the projects. I was the

1662
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: first blood out of the Nixon Guarden, the first blood

1663
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: out of l A. Me and t Rogers from Black

1664
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 1: Peace Stone because he was promoting his book and setting

1665
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: this book at the time. Me and t Rogers hit

1666
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: the East Coast bro and lit the East Coast up.

1667
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 1: T went on another route for me. Me I was

1668
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 1: on my g ship. I went to New York, planned

1669
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 1: to see the New Jersey Patterson bro. I planned to

1670
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 1: see and the Hunter Situations group. From that aspect, you

1671
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 1: feel me. But my whole dimension, the plant, that seed

1672
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 1: that has it to do with gang banging. It was

1673
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: about my money. It was about showing these cats our

1674
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 1: way to the West Coast on how we get this

1675
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 1: money and how you be on your gangster ship. So

1676
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: a lot of the ship that's going on in New

1677
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 1: York I don't condole with at all. A lot of

1678
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 1: these fake as gang members is in New York ain't

1679
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,719
Speaker 1: gang bangers. They're gang members. A lot of gang members

1680
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:56,600
Speaker 1: in the South, in Texas, definitely. This is why, this

1681
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 1: is why I pointed out, and the reason for that is,

1682
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: like I said, it wasn't my way of going to

1683
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 1: take a coast and put them in that situation. It

1684
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 1: was to show you, guys, because it was asked upon

1685
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 1: me first and foremost. It wasn't something that I just

1686
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 1: I just said, you know what, I'm gonna go to

1687
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: New York and just turn his hood out. Cats got

1688
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 1: at me knowing who I was. They the youngsters reached

1689
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 1: out to me like big homie, can you give us

1690
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 1: the truth? Man? We want to know what's the truth

1691
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 1: on the west man? What's how do we establish our ship?

1692
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 1: And that's how I got I came about it. So

1693
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 1: when I got involved, my involvement was to show them. Look, man,

1694
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 1: if if you're gonna get down with the get down broad,

1695
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:40,839
Speaker 1: then this these are the rules. These are the standards,

1696
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 1: just the g CO and boom. That was that. As

1697
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 1: far as me getting out there being involved, being active,

1698
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,759
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. It wasn't even that type of play feeling

1699
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 1: and I wasn't sending individuals on that level. So what

1700
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 1: I say is I say that now to where when

1701
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 1: I look back, it's sad and I kind of hated.

1702
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 1: I regretted on my end. I regret it for as

1703
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 1: my my participation because you something business took this ship

1704
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 1: and run buck as wild with it. And it is

1705
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 1: and it's ridiculous and it's water down, not at the beginning.

1706
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:16,680
Speaker 1: Every year it gets watered down. Every new member, it

1707
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: gets water water down, every new cats that want to

1708
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 1: be the head leader, water down down all of those years.

1709
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 1: And it ain't what you created it. The ship they

1710
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:34,600
Speaker 1: created after didn't lose like for example, um, when the

1711
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: non trade wasn't existing last year, when they had this

1712
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 1: little fooitcake boy with the rainbow ass hair around around

1713
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 1: around trolling the world and broad see ship like that

1714
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: aggravates me because I know you knew millennium motherfucker's couldn't exist.

1715
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 1: There's no way you could have existed in that in

1716
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 1: certain eras. And then a lot of ship that goes

1717
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 1: on on the west the way it does now is

1718
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 1: again because certain individuals who used to be in place,

1719
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 1: who had the power, they they took the bags and

1720
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 1: ran and separated themselves and dissociated. So there is no

1721
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 1: more structure even on our west coast. So it was

1722
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 1: the time your mother come on the west coast that

1723
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 1: ship period you was prescified when he came to hire farm.

1724
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: You knew them. Niggas on the West don't give a

1725
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 1: damn about nothing and nobody period. So now it burps

1726
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: me when you got cats from different coaches. They try

1727
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 1: to talk that ship about us now like they're the

1728
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 1: hardest and we this and West Coast ain't throwing niggas.

1729
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: We we bang out here, No niggas. You memic. You

1730
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: memick in the West. You and you're banging because you

1731
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 1: mimic the West. Nigga. You got a good because you

1732
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 1: watched Minister Society Phibby, You watched old Boy Old Dog

1733
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 1: get you memick in the West. You you banged because

1734
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,719
Speaker 1: you've seen boys in the hood. You memick in the West.

1735
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 1: We started this games to ship niggas for real, for real,

1736
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: we did the West Coast. So now the world is mimiced.

1737
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 1: Then wrap is getting paid off what we live and

1738
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 1: die for. And that's what I don't condone in with

1739
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 1: them fruitcake gas niggas at all, period. All you fake

1740
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 1: ass rapper bloods, all of them feel me, and I

1741
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 1: mean all of them. I don't know you, and you're

1742
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 1: not a fisher for one of these La neighborhoods, and

1743
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 1: you in the industry you're talking about you a hip

1744
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: hop dot move nigga. Please, one thing is for show,

1745
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 1: two things for certain. Just be glad. I ain't on

1746
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,880
Speaker 1: no body hand the beach a tip and I ain't

1747
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: know Wolf. I feel me because street still see, I

1748
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 1: don't see. I don't play by the street rules no

1749
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 1: more because I ain't in the streets. I live corporate America,

1750
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 1: So I played by corporate America rules. I'm not in

1751
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 1: the streets. So but if I was in these streets,

1752
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,639
Speaker 1: bro trust and believe, it's only two ways. I'm going

1753
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 1: death for death rode my cruel niggas who will be

1754
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 1: with me? Man, We're gonna eat and getting money, real money,

1755
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 1: and we're smashing the ship. Ain't no good be don't

1756
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 1: play play. You know what I'm saying. So I thank

1757
01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 1: God for changing growth. I'm thankful that you've a that

1758
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 1: that transition. And I want to remind everybody that you're

1759
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 1: listening to episode thirty six of The Gangster Chronicles. If

1760
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 1: you're listening on i Apple Podcasts, please leave us a

1761
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 1: rating and review so that we can continue bringing this

1762
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: great show. Leave us a rating from one to five,

1763
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 1: and you could also get this show on Google play,

1764
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 1: Spotify and radio dot com for all you Samsung and

1765
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 1: Android users. You could actually also listen to this show

1766
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 1: the way my mom does by using Sirie and just

1767
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 1: telling Sirie play the Gangster Chronicles. And we also have

1768
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 1: video portions of this podcast that will be available on

1769
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 1: the Digital Soapbox Network produced by Smooth Cut Productions. And

1770
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 1: uh don't forget Jameson has those shirts zero four and

1771
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 1: you can hit him up on Facebook or Instagram. Facebook

1772
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 1: at James McDonald and Instagram at B I G G

1773
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:57,520
Speaker 1: J thirty six thirty six. You can find me Alex Alonso.

1774
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm always posted up at Street Gangs dot Com. Just

1775
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 1: click on the contact link and all my information is there.

1776
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:06,680
Speaker 1: But you could also see me at Alex Alonzo one

1777
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 1: zero one on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook and our guest today.

1778
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:16,520
Speaker 1: He's also on Instagram Nino Cappuccino. You can FINDO Cappuccino

1779
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:20,760
Speaker 1: at I I trill West Records that means to write

1780
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 1: to trill West Records. That would be Roman Numeral or

1781
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 1: just I I trill West Records. But he also has

1782
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 1: another Instagram page called Real Cappuccino Films and and tell

1783
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:34,520
Speaker 1: everybody your YouTube channel you're looking me up at Cappuccino

1784
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 1: Films and also, uh, dr X World Topics is dr

1785
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 1: X World Topics, And your film is gonna be coming

1786
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 1: out in you have any a month or release date,

1787
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 1: not a not an exact release date right now, because

1788
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm still in uh in the process of establishing a

1789
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 1: bid and war with other studios right now, man, you know,

1790
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: so I'm just strategizing my marketing and promotional play and

1791
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 1: just trying to get the best bid. We'll keep our

1792
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 1: listeners posted on on your film. And before you go, though,

1793
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 1: I got a question about you from the only hood

1794
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:13,679
Speaker 1: that I know that memorial memorize, memorializes. Oh my gosh,

1795
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't that word. They memorialize every single homie, every

1796
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: single resident, everyone who was grew up in the Nickolsons

1797
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:24,680
Speaker 1: on the wall. In fact, y'all are running out of

1798
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: space just because now the gym I don't plays. We're

1799
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 1: wrapping around the You're wrapping around the whole gym. So,

1800
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 1: but the wall was establishedment and in the early eighties, Um,

1801
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 1: my parents are on one of the actual first doors.

1802
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 1: My parents. I lost my parents back to back through cancer, man,

1803
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 1: And so that what triggered me off rebelled against God

1804
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 1: because at one point I had a prominent lifestyle man.

1805
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,600
Speaker 1: I was on my way to NFL. I had a

1806
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 1: goal said that I was gonna be the next bow Jackson.

1807
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 1: I was gonna play baseball and pro football. That was

1808
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 1: that good. And my academics was sharp as well. For school.

1809
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 1: Because I'm one thing about me, I had to live

1810
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 1: a double life. It was when I went home and

1811
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 1: it was yes, sir, yes ma'am. I had to play

1812
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 1: that double life role. You couldn't convince my mother who

1813
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 1: I was. When people used to tell my mother, not

1814
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 1: my not my baby. One of my mama's stories, they said,

1815
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:22,639
Speaker 1: that's your son, and you couldn't convince that woman. Dad.

1816
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 1: So I lost my parents back to bank. So the

1817
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: wall was built through my big homie greg Brown. Gregory

1818
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 1: Brown established the wall him and Homie Loaf and that that, uh,

1819
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 1: no one can stop this war but us. That established

1820
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 1: that with the Homie Loaf. So the wall was created.

1821
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:43,600
Speaker 1: And the wall is not established for gang members or

1822
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 1: gang bangers in our neighborhood and during our time awards,

1823
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 1: we didn't have game members. We had gang bangers. Nothing

1824
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 1: in our neighborhood was game members. He was a gang

1825
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 1: banger or either you were just from the hood. That

1826
01:38:55,560 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 1: was the neighborhood. Yeah, you grew up, you you know

1827
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: now you you get it, pass you had the gang bang.

1828
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 1: If you win the gang banger, we still loved you.

1829
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 1: You was the home or you was the home girl

1830
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 1: because you went to school or you did you just

1831
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:10,600
Speaker 1: live to live a different life from us. But the

1832
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 1: gang bangers, we gang bang. So the wall wasn't established

1833
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 1: for gang bangers who were are falling soldiers. It was

1834
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:23,560
Speaker 1: established for the whole time community. Grandmother's, grandfather's aunties, great aunties,

1835
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: because it's you name it. So everybody that's from that

1836
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 1: community that has lost anyone is on that wall, that

1837
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: monument wall man called gone but not forgotten man and

1838
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 1: knicks the garden. Now, we talked about this before on

1839
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 1: the Gangster Chronicles. An incident that happened to Sugar Night

1840
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 1: and Uh in the projects during the filming of the

1841
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 1: video Crack Them with your Boys from O F T B. Yeah,

1842
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 1: I mean reflecting to that man, we basically giving it

1843
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 1: to the TV land raw in that cut, Man, you

1844
01:39:57,200 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 1: talk to one of the cats man who established let's

1845
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 1: just say I started this story man, I took three

1846
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 1: hundred fifty thousand from one of the most feared individuals

1847
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:09,120
Speaker 1: in the game at that time when he was on

1848
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 1: top of his game. That's how I got my first

1849
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 1: production deal in the game. Man I ain't know ship

1850
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 1: about music. So in the process of that establishment, he

1851
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 1: threw a low. He threw a love wrench in the game,

1852
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:24,600
Speaker 1: which is what he do. He's a great manipulator, and

1853
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 1: he's smart and he's intelligent with it. So he threw

1854
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:30,879
Speaker 1: a love wrench in the game. So Mr James himself,

1855
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:37,759
Speaker 1: the homie bunch of Rested Peace, Leo, Big Rock, Big Hook,

1856
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 1: being uh Rick, James, b Rick, Little bit as Rick,

1857
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 1: all the homies and these are headbusters, these things just

1858
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 1: like us. But these are my homies though, but they

1859
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 1: rolled with signment. Anyway. We was in a situation Bro

1860
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 1: where I needed to holler at him. So during the

1861
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 1: video shoot, I walked to Toy and said, but I

1862
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 1: need holl that you, I said, stepped up to my

1863
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 1: office he said, while we're passing out the shot, said

1864
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:10,719
Speaker 1: then get your shirts to one of your motherfucking boys.

1865
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 1: We need a holler. So me and my homeboy rat

1866
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: Dog rest in Peace at this time, my little homie,

1867
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 1: Top Dog. He came a little ready, top dollars and young,

1868
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:20,720
Speaker 1: and he was a part of the company I had

1869
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 1: put together called RBD, Rat BJ and Dude. That was

1870
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 1: our production company. So that's how we got our first

1871
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 1: production deal in the business with death Throw. It was

1872
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 1: all three of us with business partners. So I took

1873
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 1: him to the boy's bathroom in our gym, and um,

1874
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 1: I just got at him, you know what I'm saying,

1875
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,760
Speaker 1: man and man mono mono, and let him know how

1876
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 1: how I felt about the situation that took place, how

1877
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 1: he manipulated my homeboy, rat Dog, and and let him

1878
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 1: know about the deal that we had already talked about.

1879
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 1: And so Rick James busted. I have my homie, Big

1880
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 1: Hank and mother homeboys my dog. They was guarding the door,

1881
01:41:56,240 --> 01:42:01,719
Speaker 1: so Big hook him. Mr James knee walked and walked

1882
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 1: the He was on the outside of the door, but

1883
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:08,639
Speaker 1: they let she come in. So Mob, No, he think

1884
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 1: I don't know this right there to day. But I

1885
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 1: put his ass old blasted bottom. He thinks I don't know,

1886
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 1: he said, Rick. He told Rick, you get in there

1887
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 1: some kind of weight, get your hair. So Rick ducked

1888
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 1: his little ass between them and the door and he

1889
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 1: got in. So now it's me top rat dog Simon

1890
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 1: and Rick James in the bathroom. I'm squared off with

1891
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 1: him talking to it. So that's what Rick say, b

1892
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:33,600
Speaker 1: j come on, hold on me? Who gotta be like that?

1893
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:35,640
Speaker 1: Say nickas you hold on, we talked to this thing.

1894
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 1: So finally now the argument of brups. So now we

1895
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 1: we fall out. So silk fall into his hands. So

1896
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 1: now the homie James and and and the rest of

1897
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:48,600
Speaker 1: the homies they do what they're supposed to do, what

1898
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 1: they trained to do. They fall in suit and fall

1899
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,879
Speaker 1: into the parking lot. Now knowing already got some established

1900
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:57,680
Speaker 1: as well. So the young homies at that time, my

1901
01:42:57,760 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 1: little homie achially rest in peace, and the other young

1902
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 1: hit us they already in the park a lot. So

1903
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 1: we end up into a standoff. Basically bro the Buny

1904
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 1: hunts in the parrus. We end up in the standoff

1905
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 1: in the park a lot of Next to Guarden, tell

1906
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 1: him these little cats was twelve years old years old.

1907
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:15,759
Speaker 1: They had the shortest little cats out there with with nines.

1908
01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 1: So I was at the I was at the bathroom door,

1909
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 1: and you know rap just my nigger hunter, I'm straight solid.

1910
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:30,600
Speaker 1: Rad used to come to the office and get his

1911
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 1: just his just chips. He used to come to the office.

1912
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 1: He used to come to the restaurant. He used to

1913
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 1: come wherever the fund Simon was at. And he knew

1914
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:46,560
Speaker 1: that timeline, that date, hey day he came. So on

1915
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 1: that particular day when y'all came to the I thought

1916
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 1: it was green Eyes, but that was you. So came

1917
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:54,640
Speaker 1: through the door. It was like getting in there, we

1918
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 1: need to hone at you, Simon. You ain't gotta go

1919
01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:00,639
Speaker 1: in there. Remember the tar cat. That's a big walk

1920
01:44:00,720 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 1: walk house. It was like, hold upon me, who woo.

1921
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 1: So he grabbed his grabb his here wait a minute,

1922
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 1: hold on, Walter, you were then place black. You don't

1923
01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:16,640
Speaker 1: oh it was it was. It was for real. So

1924
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 1: Shell was like, okay, man, I'm I got it. I'm cool,

1925
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:23,639
Speaker 1: I'm cool. But he's sweating bullets, like motherfucker. He already

1926
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 1: know what's happening, and and nobody could really say nothing

1927
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 1: because he knew the situation. He knew what was going down.

1928
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 1: But you know, she was one of those I got

1929
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 1: you but then renewed kind of catch yeah. First and

1930
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 1: foremost it was like Bro, he put itself in the

1931
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 1: situation and then he put us in a situation against

1932
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,640
Speaker 1: one another with the son we never done, see, but

1933
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 1: we didn't. We didn't grow up. Even in the county jail.

1934
01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 1: We didn't go a fight in the squadums each other.

1935
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 1: We you know, other bloods had situations and bloods to fight,

1936
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 1: but we didn't. When it came to lose his park

1937
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 1: and in foodtown, man come to parluge Man, we just

1938
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 1: we had an alliance bro with the west Side and

1939
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 1: the east side, so I ship before we leaven let

1940
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 1: it get to that level were we even squashed and

1941
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 1: we would get to the okay, the two homies, just

1942
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 1: them two need to go handle that business once that's done.

1943
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 1: We could, we didn't let it get out of hand.

1944
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 1: You know a lot of us wouldn't have been here

1945
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: today if she would have said, I ain't going in

1946
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:23,679
Speaker 1: that bathroom. That's not the truth. Because they know, we knew,

1947
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 1: they was ready, We knew what was handing, and and

1948
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 1: and we right there and and I'm I'm telling you, hey,

1949
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 1: us what watch Cowboy movies? These little cats was I'm

1950
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 1: talking about post spreading spreading, and and one of my

1951
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 1: homeboys named Drew. This is how seriously was getting and

1952
01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 1: everybody knew it was tense. Was drinking at forty. So

1953
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 1: the little kid came over there and said, uh, blow us,

1954
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 1: let me hear that. So he passed the pony to him,

1955
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 1: turn up and turned around and walked away. So my

1956
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 1: boy said, hey, hey, wait a minut, hold on, look

1957
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 1: turned back, looked. He looked at me like again, it's

1958
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:14,720
Speaker 1: your faulty either you gonna get him off, gonna leave them.

1959
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 1: But it was just so it was it was every

1960
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 1: everybody was showing up at that time because and and

1961
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:26,120
Speaker 1: none of us knew really what what's going on? That's

1962
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 1: the whole thing right there. See he it was he

1963
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 1: he was so fascinated with the power that he had

1964
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 1: grew within and so fast to where now he knew

1965
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 1: my last and foremost conquer is how do I get

1966
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 1: to the body? Hunt us? Because he even asked them,

1967
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 1: and they told him, said me, First of all, we

1968
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 1: gotta relationship with him there my homies, right do we

1969
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: grew up with them too, niggas in the system man

1970
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:55,639
Speaker 1: out just like Rack, what I fund with all? Oh?

1971
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 1: That was my niggas over there. So it's like, now

1972
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:01,479
Speaker 1: you put them in a position again, it's us because

1973
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 1: we're coming at ship. We we we don't want to

1974
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 1: be with the homies. Homies, but then they got a

1975
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:09,720
Speaker 1: job to do, and let's pretake too, because that's what

1976
01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 1: they're there for. So we understood that. So I think

1977
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 1: it was to try how how do we minimize this

1978
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 1: without bring a conflict of months the homies, And that

1979
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 1: was this pressing related to Harry Oh and his steak

1980
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 1: in death row rest my big Yeah, that's my big humpy.

1981
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 1: I grew up under the Harry All. That's my big homie.

1982
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 1: You feel me, you know, back in the days, I

1983
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:32,640
Speaker 1: got some of my first opportunities dealing with him, you

1984
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So he was definitely uh uh

1985
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:41,599
Speaker 1: shining the right people to talk to to uh shame.

1986
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I can talk about this all day long,

1987
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 1: all night long, but we're gonna have to wrap this episode.

1988
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to probably bring Nino Cappuccino back again

1989
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 1: for apart two or because Reggie's gonna be gone for

1990
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 1: at least another nine months. But I want to thank

1991
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 1: everybody for listening to another episode to The Gangster Chronicles,

1992
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:07,640
Speaker 1: and we are out a watch w A T T S.

1993
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 1: We are taught to survive. What's with it? What's up?

1994
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 1: This has been a digital Sobuch Network production.