1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast with doctor 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Heather Lynn. The Anunaki connection. Heather, who were the Anunaki? Well, 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: isn't that the million dollar question? I think the Anunaki is? 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: This is this is where it gets a little different 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: in my research. It's gray, There's no doubt about that. Yes, 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: And there's so many different characters, if you will, in 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: this story. And so I from my understanding in my research, 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: it seems as though there are just so many of 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: these deities that you know, since scholars say we just 11 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: don't even know how many, because some could still be 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: out there that we've not discovered. So knowing this and 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: seeing all the many then tracing back how far they 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: go and how different they are. Some of them are 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: physical beings, some of them are described as semi biological entities, 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: and some of them are even described as supernatural entities. 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: And all of those fall under this label of Anunaki. 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: And so what I what I tend to believe is 19 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: that the Honoraki includes many different gods and many different 20 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: deities throughout all of this different time and over time, 21 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: I think that based on some of the tablets that 22 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: I discuss in the book, I think that the word 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: anunaki sort of turned into a label or a position 24 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: much later. So just as we have the word lord, 25 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: and we would say that Lord God or Lord Jesus 26 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: or whichever religion you may have, is a god, but 27 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: then we also have a landlord or you know, that 28 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: word has now become just a casual word. So in 29 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: a lot of different ways, it seems as though the 30 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: word anoraki can mean a very large range of these beings, 31 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: some of which were clearly human beings that were also kings. 32 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: But again some of those are also described clearly as 33 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: supernatural beings. And so they're all on a knaki. Zacharyasichon, 34 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: of course, claims they came from a planet called Nibiru, 35 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: which is in our Solar system, but it goes way 36 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: out on a thirty six hundred year elliptical orbit, but 37 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: that they are from that planet, what do you think, Well, 38 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: I think that the question of Niboru is a little 39 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: less straightforward than that. You know, yes, he did think 40 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: that the question of Niboru is sort of a giant 41 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: planet that would pass by Earth every thirty six hundred years. 42 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's there are the references to Niboru in 43 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: the Mesopotamian tablets are actually very very fragmentary at best, 44 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: and so it's it really gives rise to many different 45 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: possible interpretations, and so it gets more complicated because astronomical 46 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: associations are factored in. So um, these these planets or 47 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: celestial bodies could also represent different gods and these things. 48 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: So um, you know, I'm really not sure after the 49 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: research I've done that it would be a planet, and 50 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: I cover sound a little hesitant about it. I am 51 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: hesitant to commit to it being an actual planet. Um. 52 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: You know, if you were to look at the word niberu, 53 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: the newer Acadian spelling is an eb ru, and that 54 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: would mean to cross over or sometimes with an eye, 55 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: it means a fairyman, which is interesting u as in 56 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: like one you may see if you were crossing over. 57 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: But if you break the word apart, and this is 58 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: just you know, a curiosity, if you really break the 59 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: word apart and look at it separately. The end e, 60 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: according to an older translation, would mean a brazier or 61 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: a container for hot coals. Them it also meant strength 62 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: or force. And this is coming from the University of 63 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania's Sumerian Dictionary, which is, you know, definitely scholarly and 64 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: available to everybody to look at. Um, the B in 65 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: it the b e meant to diminish or receive, and 66 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: then the r i meant to lay down or cast 67 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: or throw down. And so if you if you kind 68 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: of you know, just put all those together, you could 69 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: interpret nibru to mean a forceful brazier diminishing as it's 70 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: being thrown down, which sounds a little wonky, but if 71 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: you think about it, um, it really sounds like the 72 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: actions of maybe a comet, you know, I think it falls. 73 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: What about another dimension or or you know, a multiverse. 74 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: I really couldn't rule that out for sure. I mean, 75 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: we have no way of knowing. And that's something that 76 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think is really important when you consider 77 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: all of these different theories and rather than say, well, 78 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: this person got this wrong or that wrong, I think 79 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: when you consider what we're actually talking about in the 80 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: vast time period and the very little information we have, 81 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: and also considering how much the ancients knew that we 82 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: don't give them credit for. Maybe they were aware of 83 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: such things. I mean, they were aware of so many 84 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: different technologies and sciences, and of course a very complicated astronomy. 85 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: Why couldn't they I think anything is open at this point. 86 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: Your cover of the illustration of your book, the Anonaki 87 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: Connection depicts what I would think is Adam and Eve. Correct. Yes, Now, 88 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: Zecharia Sitchen claims that the Anononaki genetically manipulated whatever species 89 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: or entities were on our planet at the time, and 90 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: hence came Adam and Eve. What do you think of 91 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: that theory? Well, I think that the text specifically say 92 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: that the Lord in this case formed man, and so 93 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: in my belief, what we have here is a somewhat 94 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: biblical story of garden of the Garden of eden um, 95 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: and not necessarily the history of a biological creation in 96 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: that way from those particular texts. Um So, if you 97 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: if you look at the narrative of the Garden of 98 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: eden which predates what we have in the Old Testament 99 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: by a lot. So there's there's very ancient tellings of this, 100 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: and it may actually the oral tradition as well that 101 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: the later got written down, making it far older than 102 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: we could even imagine to some extent. But the formation 103 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: of man is a really important concept there, and so 104 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: with formation it could be something more akin to civilizing. 105 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: You know, if we look at the the sort of 106 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: a story that it takes place, the place of Eden 107 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: appears in the Cuneiform Us and translates into Marian too 108 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: an uncultivated plane. And when it speaks of Adam the 109 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: Hebrew Adama translates to translates to ground, and the word 110 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: adam in Hebrew literally means red, which connected atom to 111 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: the red soil of the uncultivated plane. And so you know, 112 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: this connection has sometimes been recognized as a reference to 113 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: man being created from clay, but that's something that is 114 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: pretty well debated currently, even in religious scholarship. So it 115 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: gets a little dicey when you go into this because 116 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: you're starting to challenge a lot of orthodoxies, religious ideas, 117 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: and and you know, it's it can get people pretty upset. 118 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: But in terms of how the people were created, I 119 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: think that it's more of a semantic issue. I can't 120 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: say for certain that they were biologically created to say, 121 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: in in like a lab coat beaker sort of science 122 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: fiction type way, which is how Zagariah portrayed it basically 123 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: kind of like that. Yeah, and I think I think 124 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: it would be more likely that it was done through 125 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: careful genetic manipulation and selective breeding. Nonetheless, it's an incredible story, 126 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: isn't another? It absolutely is, and so much of it 127 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: is so unknown still. I mean, I'm so surprised every 128 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: day when I get a new class of students in 129 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: and I usually start going through and saying, how many 130 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: are familiar with the Sumerians? And it's as very best 131 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: I get about five percent of the hands up in 132 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: the air. The young people today have no idea who 133 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: the Sumerians are. I take it a step further and 134 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: I say, what about the Egyptians? And a lot of 135 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: them don't even know about the Egyptian really, really are 136 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: they aware of the Pyramids? They're aware, but a lot 137 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: of them. I do these informal goals in the beginning 138 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: so that I can kind of adjust my teaching to 139 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: that and to not assume that they know. And I've 140 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: asked many times, are you familiar with King tut That's 141 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: the one that hardly anybody knows. And I say, what 142 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: about television? Do you not see things on television? And 143 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: this sort of blank stairs, like it's not their fault 144 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: that they look at me like, should we know? Is 145 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: this something we need to know? And I just think, wow, 146 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: the you know, the public schooling has failed them, and 147 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: then they come to college and they have to be 148 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: taught all these things. That's an interesting take too. So 149 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: the Anornaki, could they be demonic? Could they be the 150 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: fallen angels? You know? In when I was researching my 151 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: previous book, Evil Archaeology, I kept coming up to that 152 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: more and more every time I would see that there 153 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: was this direct link between evil entities and demons, and 154 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: then these Anornaki sort of goods I don't and then 155 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: you got to bring the Bible into it, and then 156 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: you have to bring the Bible in a different re 157 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: gens and different ideas. But you know, you can do 158 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: sort of a comparative analysis between a lot of different 159 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: gods and you know, deities and demons, and there's something 160 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: very similar to all of them. They have kind of 161 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: a thread. So for instance, I don't think that they're 162 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: all demons in that classical sense, because the Sumerians had 163 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: their own pantheon of demons. But there is a little crossover. 164 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: So when you have Ankie, who is looked at in 165 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: this to the Sumerians as like a giver of information 166 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: and a very important god. But if you look at 167 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: his story, it really is similar to that of Prometheus. 168 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: It's similar to Lucifer of a Gnostic face, if you will, 169 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: and it's it's like low key to the Nordics, and 170 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, so many different ones. And so in a way, 171 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: given that, you know, you could say that that could 172 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: be a demon, like in fluence, given how we see 173 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: Lucifer today as a demon, though may it may not 174 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: be in that traditional sense of demon, like a little 175 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: creature or a you know, anthropomorphized animal or something like that. 176 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: So I think it's a little blurred, but I don't. 177 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that they're unrelated. And that's something that 178 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: I think is really important. And you know, the more 179 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: and more I've looked into these subjects about the others, 180 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,359 Speaker 1: the different sort of life forms or other worldly entities, 181 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: and the more I see a connection between what we 182 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: may call demons, but we may also call angels and 183 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: things like aliens or even on it. Do you think 184 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: ancient wisdom is being suppressed? I do? I do. I 185 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: know that sounds very you know, over the top, or 186 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: even conspiratorial, not really not on this show. Oh good, 187 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: because I do actually think that is the case. If 188 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: you remember the looting in the Iraq Museum, that was 189 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 1: something that was clearly planned. They our own government came 190 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: out and said that, you know, this had been done 191 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: by somebody who knew what they were doing. They came in, 192 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: they knew what they wanted. They had a list, and 193 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: they went in with surgical precision, precision, excuse me, precision, 194 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: and they took what they wanted, many of which actually 195 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: were Sumerian texts. If you could believe that almost five 196 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: thousand of them were Sumerian texts. So that's interesting in 197 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: and of itself. But we're living in a time where 198 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: so much as being held back. I mean, you could 199 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: look at the suppression in a number of ways. One, 200 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: if you consider that most of the students that come 201 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: into my class have no idea who the Sumerians are. 202 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: That means that in public school they're not being told 203 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: a lot of just basic, important foundational information. And then two, 204 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 1: on a different front, you have the destruction of libraries 205 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: and museums today, just like the burning of the library Alexandria. 206 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: We've had that very thing happen, you know, in modern 207 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: time with the burning of the National Museum of Brazil. 208 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: Can I go out of a limb here and say 209 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: that you believe the Anunaki are probably extraterrestrial your personal belief, 210 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: My personal belief is that how you could define them 211 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: as extraterrestrial, not that they would be necessarily the grays 212 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: per se. I mean, I don't know if I'd go 213 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: so far as to say that in that type of extraterrestrial, 214 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: but I think we're looking at something maybe more out 215 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: of this world, innerdimensional, out of this world, that sort 216 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: of thing. All you may be right there, Where are they? 217 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: Where'd they go? I think they're still here? Uh huh, 218 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: because we look like them. Who would know, right well, 219 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if they look I don't know if 220 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: they could materialize. I don't know if it's something like that. 221 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: But I do think that in a lot of ways 222 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: they're still with us. If you look at it as 223 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: a sort of interdimensional thing, there's a lot of reason 224 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: to believe that people are still trying to contact these 225 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: beings today. So if you think about through history, people 226 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: trying to make contact with say demons or angels, or 227 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: you know, using Enochian magic, as John D. Did to 228 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: try to contact these entities, which I believe are the 229 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: same entities you have now groups of people, even in 230 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: modernity here in Silicon Valley, who are trying to contact 231 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: off world beings using different forms of meditation and also DMT, 232 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, And I say this not to scare anybody, 233 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: or you know, I know a lot of people are 234 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: very much interested in explode or other realms using psychedelics. 235 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: And I'm not promoting the use of psychedelics, and nor 236 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: am I discouraging them. I believe in freedom. But I 237 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: will say that there are many people who've experienced contacting 238 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: these sorts of entities who they characterize as elves or aliens, 239 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: or guides or even helpers um and at the same time, 240 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: some of them visually see these creatures look like things 241 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: that we would describe the alien abduction scenarios, you know, 242 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: reptilians or praying nantises, and so I wouldn't I wouldn't 243 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: rule that out either. Listen to more Coast to Coast 244 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: AM every weeknight at one am Eastern and go to 245 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast am dot com for more