WEBVTT - Cracktoberfest Part Two: How The CIA Became Drug Dealers 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:07.840 Welcome back to Behind the Hood Politics Bastards. Um, that's 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:11.360 the one. That is the one. So we left off 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:16.840 talking about Gary Webb's Dark Alliance article series. Um. And 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.639 the primary gotcha that the story had was that it 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.040 connected to right wing drug dealing Nicaraguans to the f 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:25.120 d N, which is a group of what the Reagan 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:29.800 administration called freedom fighters fighting against the left wing government 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.920 of Nicaragua. And it showed that these these guys tied 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:37.120 to the f d N had somewhat inexplicably escaped prosecution 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.840 for a weird number of crimes, all involving cocaine while 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:42.920 they were moving a bunch of cocaine into the US. 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:47.000 And boy, that seems a little bit sketchy, right, Um, 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:48.800 Now this is the point again where we have to 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.720 start talking about Nicaraguan history. So I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:54.640 peel us back a little bit from the swing in eighties, 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:58.280 well from the swinging nineties, I guess too, the also 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:02.000 swinging nineteen sixties. Um. This is the this is the 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:05.600 intersection of the two yes, other episodes we've done. Here's 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:07.880 where it. Yeah, yeah, this is where it intersects with 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:09.960 all well, all the norths coming up. But this is 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.600 the bad story towards what all these winds up doing. 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:17.080 And because episodes, Yeah yeah, because our episode starts in Iran. 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:21.480 Yeah yeah. So starting in nineteen thirty six, Nicaragua is 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.160 run by a family called the Samosas. Who is it's 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:28.640 one of these dictatorship families. It's essentially like royalty, right, 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.760 like that's what it is. They are right wing um. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:35.240 They exist to help a lot of different foreign companies 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.800 extract Nicaraguan wealth h and hand some of it to 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:40.760 them while none of it goes to the people. And 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.039 they're in power forty three years. And the last Samosa 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.160 who is in power is an Astasio Samosa, who's around 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.040 from nineteen sixty seven is to nineteen seventy nine, is 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.600 the dictator um in total. Again, there Samoses are there 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:55.520 for like half a century, so you might think about 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.000 the Samosas is kind of like the Assad's right, and 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.480 Anastasia is a little bit like Bashar that he has 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:05.400 groomed to inherit the kingdom. Now, like most dictators, Samosa 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:09.240 assassinated political rivals, which included newspaper editors and people who 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:13.040 attempted to engage in Nicaragua was free and opened elections 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.919 in a way that he didn't like. As The Times 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.400 wrote in a contemporary article, quote, the machinery of government 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.639 was essentially geared to building up and ensuring the perpetuation 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.200 of the family's wealth and power. As a result, the 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.280 Samosa is not only control much of the Nicaraguan economy 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:33.000 with interest in construction, shipping, airlines, television and newspapers, farming, fishing, breweries, 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.800 and mining, but the president's uncle's brother, cousins, sons, and 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:41.320 nephews occupy key posts throughout the administration. Um. It's a kleptocracy, right, 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:45.679 we all, we're all familiar with this thing. Um. And eventually, 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.119 you know, people, what people really don't like is when 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.799 a specific family or a few families of assholes take 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.560 all of the money and run everything and murder anyone 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:59.040 who talks bad about it. Eventually, across the board in 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.080 every culture and time, people don't like this. People really 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.880 don't like that. And in in Nicaragua, once the people 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.000 decided they had had enough of this, there's a revolution 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.760 and a group of leftists known as the Sand and East. 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.200 As you know, starting is these kind of like guerilla 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:18.600 fighters and whatnot overthrow his ass and take power themselves. Now, 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.079 these guys are leftists, right, so being leftists? Who are 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.320 you being leftists in Nicaragua? What is a country You're 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:29.359 probably gonna want to have a good relationship with Cuba? Right? Um? 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.760 Pretty natural. Cuba has a similar history of this kleptocratic 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.680 dictator getting overthrown by a left wing revolution. Right. Um, 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.960 Cuba's familiar, you know, friendly ideologically, They've got access to 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.680 weapons and stuff through the Soviet Union sometimes that and 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.800 it's all of which and it is pretty close, all 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:46.640 of which is real good for the Sand and East. 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.839 Is so any normal person would be like, well, yeah, 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.360 of course they're kind of cozy up with Cuba. The 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:57.560 US security establishment loses their god damned minds when this 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:01.280 happens in like nineteen seventy nine. Um, they don't see 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.840 this is like, well, yeah, they just overthrew this government 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.040 who was friendly with I mean, the US had a 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:10.160 mixed relationship with Samosa. It's not entirely like but anyway, Yeah, 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.520 we've just overthrown this dictator. These guys are our best 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.320 friends in the area. They can give us the stuff 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:16.600 we need to help kind of rebuild and take our 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:20.440 country back um. The US security establishment, these these paleo 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.720 conservatives who were fucking taken over with the Reagan administration 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:29.000 are like, this is communism taking hold in America's backyard. 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.839 It's one of the things people will talk about in 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:34.840 this period. There's this domino theory, right, that's why we 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.440 Vietnam people are so fucking committed. It's same thing with Korea. 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:39.920 Is this idea that like, well, if you let one 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:42.839 country become communists, then everyone around them will fall which 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.920 a couple of things. Number one, I don't think this 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.360 is actually true of state communism. But if there's an 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:52.040 ideology that's so attractive that once one country does that, 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.560 everyone around them starts doing it, perhaps that's a good thing. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.520 Maybe it's not that bad, or maybe that's not the 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:03.039 way it because that's not the way it worked. Right Famously, 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.880 Vietnam the communists one, and you know what didn't happen 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.640 is all of Southeast Asia do exactly the same thing 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.880 as Vietnam in a lot of ways. Actually, Vietnam became 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.880 a stabilizing force because they're the ones who move into 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.640 fucking Cambodia and stuff. After the Kaimarus lose their minds. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:21.240 So it's one of those things where the actual lived 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.920 history shows that this is a terrible way to think 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.039 of things because it leads you to commit to stuff 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.840 like the Vietnam War, which is a fucking disaster and 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.919 it's not accurate because countries can have left wing regimes 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.799 go into place and Vietnam big trading partner with the US, 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.280 biased weapons and stuff from US. Now, like it's not 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:45.520 you know, it's not that's but it's nothing contagious, It's fine. 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:49.480 It's like, yeah, nothing about this theory of how domino 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.480 like this, Nothing about this is right. And by nineteen 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.520 eighty it's obvious to everyone that it's not right because 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:58.000 there's a lot of Again, Vietnam are the ones who 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.920 like put an into the fucking Khmer rouge um whatever. 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.919 So the Reagan administration doesn't take it this way, and 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:06.440 they're like, no, no, no, we were never The only 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.320 thing that was wrong about Vietnam is that we didn't 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:13.040 stay in their love, which no, we just was good. 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.320 If if the American public would have been chill it 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:20.160 just let us do to ship, we'd be I. Yeah. 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.600 And again this is not to whitewash anybody involved it's 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:26.000 just to point out that the theory of sucking the 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.400 domino theory is fucking nonsense, and they know it at 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:33.360 this point. Um. So that's the justification for why we 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:36.360 are need to back the group of kind of right 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.080 wing militias that start forming up in Nicaragua after the 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:43.280 Sandinistas take over. This is not a lot of guys, um, 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.839 there's really just a handful of different bands of right 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.679 wing you know, revolutionaries. A lot of them are trained 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.159 by the CIA and getting aid from the CIA. So 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.200 the CIA has dudes in there who were helping to 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.839 train these guys up and kind of broadly, these different 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.520 groups are known as the Contrast, which I think I 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.520 don't think I need to explain why they're called it, Like, 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.680 that's why they're called the contrast is because they're against 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:09.479 the fucking the Santinistas. So, which is the same year 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.120 that CRACK made its debut in the West Coast, members 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.880 of the Nicaraguan Revolutionary Democratic Alliance we're meeting with CIA 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:19.040 officers to plot the overthrow of their new government. One 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.880 of these officers sent a cable to CIA headquarters to 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.640 explain that the nation's new allies had opted to quote 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.560 engage in drug smuggling to the United States in order 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:31.360 to finance it's anti Sandinista operations. An initial trial run 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.000 had taken place in July of that year, with cocaine 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:38.720 being flown from to Miami from Nicaragua via plane. Now 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.120 this cable, this is not like a hey, great, our 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.360 plan worked, cable, right, this is framed as a warning. 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:46.320 So they're not saying, hey, this is awesome. They're saying like, hey, 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:50.560 by the way, you should know, Uh, Nicaraguan revolutionaries are 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.160 smuggling cocaine in the United States, and we have evidence 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.320 that this plane got sent there. Right. Um, it's it's 0:07:56.320 --> 0:08:01.080 basically allegations of a wrongdoing within the intelligence establishment of 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:05.040 an ally of the CIA. So of course the CIA 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.760 does not do anything about these allegations, right because they 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.400 are fine with it, or at least there's factions. The 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.880 CIA is not a monolith. There's people, which is not 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:14.600 to say that there's people who don't like it because 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.160 they're good people. They don't like it because of other reasons. 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.800 But there's broadly speaking, because we're we'll talk about this 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:22.520 more later, but the CIA is kind of having a 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.520 culture crisis and this period to due to some ship 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.440 that's happened in the seventies. And so there's two big 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.000 broad groups within the agency at this point that are 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.200 kind of opposed to each other. One of them are 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:37.480 what the other group kind of call derogatorily the desk jockeys, 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:39.840 And they're the people who are like, ship can be 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.679 done remotely. We don't need to have fucking we shouldn't 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.960 be sending in people and specialists, we shouldn't be boots 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.199 on the ground, right, Like, there's other ways to influence ship, 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.800 Like that's how we'll do it. And then there's the 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.480 the cowboys, right, And I think it's obvious the cowboys 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.520 are the guys who want to do like James Bond shit, right, 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.439 they want to be machine gunning people and like having Yeah, 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.120 those are the two different kind of factions within the CIA, 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:06.000 and they are so again, this this warning isn't like 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.840 someone being coy. It's someone in the agency who's like, 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.120 I don't think this is good, and other people in 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:12.960 the agency are like, yeah, we're not going to do 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:16.360 shit about that, right, Like that's what's happening here. Yeah, 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:20.160 and you know, uh, how much was how many moving 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:24.080 parts was happening in the story around this time, it's 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.439 like some fools just didn't even know she was going 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.920 on well, and and and and it's also we'll talk 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.439 about this more. It's a strategic decision to make sure 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.760 some fools don't know what's going on, because you want 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.600 people who are honestly ignorant that you can trot out 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.760 to answer questions, right, that's how you do this. So 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.840 there there are other allegations that start to filter out 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.839 around the same time. Five members of a group called 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.320 ADRIN a d R E N it's a it's an 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.080 acronym um. This is like a right wing group are 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.120 accused of working directly with Jorge Morales, who's a major 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.800 drug trafficker. Adrian is this kind of democratic alliance. That's 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.560 what they're framed as right as democratic. So the sanitist 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.439 des aren't whatever who carried out the mission are disbanded 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.440 in like nineteen eighty two, but a lot of the 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.079 core people there joined the f d N, which we've 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:11.480 talked about before. That's the Nicaraguan Democratic Force, which makes 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.000 up the core of the contrast, Four of the five 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:18.559 ADREN members who had worked directly with cocaine smuggler Charles 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:22.320 Morales or Jorge Morales remain associated with him and the 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.720 CIA until nineteen eight seven. Right, So we're talking about 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.320 the kind of links. It's not as simple as like 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.120 this organism. It's not always as simple as this organization 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.560 has this relationship with the CIA. It's well, these guys 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:35.880 are in this organization that's backed by the CIA, and 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:37.400 they know this guy, and then they leave to this 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.079 other organization that's also backed by the CIA, and they 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.160 take their connection with him there, right, and he's moving 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.120 cocaine and like they're getting money through it. So in 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.839 the summer of nineteen eighty four, Marte Healey, who was 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.160 a wealthy Nicaraguan exile, she had she supported Samosa, She 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.600 was a big fan of that dictator. She holds a 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:57.000 meeting at her home in Miami with two CONTRA representatives 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.079 and or Hey Morales, who, by this point is to 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.560 indictment in the United States. I'm gonna quote from the 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:07.120 Washington Post here. The Contra representatives were Octaviano Saysar and 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:11.280 Adolpho Popo Tomorrow, Haley's ex husband. Both were working with 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.920 Eden Pastora, a Maverick revolutionary, trying to open a Southern 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.000 front and the Contra's guerrilla war from a base in 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.840 Costa Rica. In addition to the Contrast based in Honduras 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.680 and Nica, rob was northern border. The CIA had run 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.960 out of money to support either group of contrasts, and 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.600 Congress refused to provide more until the next year. Despite 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.560 their rift with the spy agency, Tomorrow and Czar said 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.319 they asked the CIA official if they could accept the 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:38.680 offer of airplanes and cash from the drug dealer. Morales, 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.400 I called our contact at the CIA. Of course I did, 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.400 Tomorrow said. Recently. The truth is we were still getting 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:48.760 some CIA money under the table, they said. Morales was fine. Yes, 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.520 I was like like yes, read like please if y'all 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.040 I don't know what order y'all here in these episodes. 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.880 I keep coming back to that, but like I think 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.000 this will be too and then yours will be three 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:04.440 in four and okay, cool, so then so then yeah, 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:08.040 so then y'all will see as we as we uh, 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:12.679 as this episode unfolds or this series unfolds, he has 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.760 he saying, yeah, you know the c I is, you know, 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.920 we getting money from them. We're not like we're not 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.360 supposed to be funding them yet. Like this like this 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.000 is all under the two Yeah, yeah, this is illegal, 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:25.920 Like get she in illegal? Was? Fuck? Yes? Has it 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.560 literally made loss? That said you can't fund him? All right? 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.720 I was like, no, we get the money. Yeah, so 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.040 that's fine, but we're not supposed to be paying them anyway. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.959 So I mean, what the difference is it they passed 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:41.160 back and cry and the way this happens, it's like 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.760 there's this lady and she's rich and and she's got 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.040 some money and maybe she gets kicked some money on 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.160 the side by the CIA to help fund these guys 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.439 at a private party at her house, and you know 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.120 that's the way all this flows. Again, it's never as 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.360 they like. These guys are One of the things you 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.080 have to keep in mind, and we'll talk about this 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:02.440 in our Oliver North episodes. Prop is that a lot 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.400 of this is being done like the drug business, and 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.080 I'm talking about outside of the drugs. I'm talking about 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.200 the funding a militants where you've got all these different 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:11.640 streams and you want a lot of ship done in 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.480 cash and and your land laundering and filtering. One of 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.000 the main differences is that because these guys are the government, 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.000 they're all much worse at it than people in the 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.440 drug game are, which is why we know all of 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.040 this right, because they they do the thing that Stringer 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:26.880 Bell says you don't ever do, is they take they 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:32.079 all take notes on their criminal conspiracy. I just don't understand, Like, 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.800 how y'all just writing all his ship down. Well, I mean, 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.480 it's because they a lot most of them. You have 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.120 to one thing you have to keep in mind. And 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.600 this is again something I think that folks on the 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.000 left don't think about enough when they think about why 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.080 the CIA is the way it isn't what it does. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.760 There's a lot of people, there's people, particularly at the top, 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:54.400 who are like soulless nightmare bureaucrats, but a lot of 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.280 them believe in what they're doing. A lot of these 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.520 agents believe they're fighting communism they're doing and so they're 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.880 taking notes and writing it down because they don't think 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.679 they're doing anything wrong, and they think that as government employees, 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:11.640 you are supposed to document the good things that you're doing. Um. Yeah, yeah. 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:15.880 So anyway, uh US officials who took part in joint 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:19.640 CIA contra operations argued against the version of events that 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:23.440 I have just related to you without actually refuting it right, 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.160 because they specifically can't argue against the facts. They just 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.680 argue that this does not mean that the CIA had 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.880 any role in the drug trade. Dwyane Clarridge, at the time, 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.880 the head of the CIA's Latin American division, said that 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.440 he quote certainly never dealt with Popo Chamorrow, but might 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:42.200 have met him and definitely didn't know Morales. When Congress 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.520 investigated this in nine seven, the CIA claimed that just 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:49.160 after this meeting, they decided never to work again with 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.920 Costa Rican based contrast, because they figured out they were 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.320 involved in the coke industry. So once it comes out 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.680 that there's these these very clear ties, they're like, oh, 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:00.480 and then we decided not to work with them anymore. Um, 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:04.640 you all really know that, dude. But he so we 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.440 we bounced ye yeah. So I was like no. Once 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.320 I found out, I was like, no, I gotta go 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:14.840 where yeah yeah. Which, again, the CIA are liars. It 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.680 is literally their job, right they are. The CIA know 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.360 it should be surprised by this, but it's worth delving 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:24.880 into precisely why they decided to get involved in cocaine now, 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.200 as we're going to discuss later. The agency has a 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.760 long history of using drug money to fund their sketchy 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.240 black opshit. They much preferred to get cash directly from 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.240 the federal government. The CIA doesn't like doing sketchy drug 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.680 things to fund stuff, because that's a lot harder than 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.080 the Congress just saying here's billions of dollars to do 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.800 sketchy ship. Right. The CIA was way happier after, for example, 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.120 nine eleven, when suddenly they just get this like pile 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.040 of funds. That's much better than doing fucking the coke 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:54.840 coke dealing. Yeah, but it is. They have a fucking 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.760 older than a lot of the people alive, you know, 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.440 making these decisions on the ground when the entra ship 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.480 comes up. The CIA has a very long history of 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:09.400 funding their operations with drug money. UM. So obviously um. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.480 When Reagan took office, he called the death squatters of 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.960 the contrast the moral equivalent of the founding Fathers. Um. 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.200 And he made the argument again that like you've got 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.560 to you've got to stop the spread of communism by 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:24.680 supporting anti communist insurgencies. This becomes known as the Reagan doctrine, 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:29.440 which is just a repackaged uh fucking what you call it? More? 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.400 Uh No, the things that fall over. Yeah, I mean 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:33.800 it's that too. It is. It is kind of a 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.640 continuation of Monroe doctrine, but it's a domino theory theory. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.760 It's just a repackaging of that um. And he does over. 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.520 He does argue for direct open aid rather than drug 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.160 like trying to fund the ship through drug money. Reagan 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.320 and the CIA want this ship to come straight through Congress. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:54.280 But after he gets elected in nineteen eighty, the GOP like, 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.440 he has those first couple of years, which is when 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:58.480 a lot of this stuff starts to ramp up, right, 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:00.200 and the CIA is pumping a lot of money into 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.760 the contrast. But then in two the Republicans lose the 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.480 Senate in the House in the midterms, it goes really 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:10.240 fucking badly for them, and they immediately stick a big 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.200 rubber why did I say, a big rugger rubber cock 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.119 in the in the Reagan White House. They they immediately 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.320 decided to like stymy the Reagan White House, and they 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.920 passed something called the BOLB. I don't know, I was 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.560 the immediately the way I wrote this at like three 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:31.159 in the morning, the Lion as I originally wrote it was, 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.760 they immediately stuck a big rubber cock in the Reagan 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:38.320 White House plugged. I'm gonna be honest with holes, just 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.239 would a big old rubbery. I'm sure I had a 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.080 bit to extemp on this, but I have forgotten what 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:49.159 that was. Oh my lord, but theories to us on Twitter, 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:53.159 I would yeah, I mean I think I meant like 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:57.919 they fucked they fucked the Reagan White House. That's a 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:03.000 bad way to do it. God, what alaud what a 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:08.200 tragic funk? Up? I am? Um. So, so the bowl 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:12.919 in the minium, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll talk about that 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:14.960 more later, but basically for now, what you know, it 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.359 restricts the activity of the CIA and the d O 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.720 D in Foreign Wars Department of the Fifth So the 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.840 amendment is written with the Nicaragua, with Nicaragua specifically in mind, um, 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.760 and it makes it harder to fun things um. And 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.560 the justification for this is again the fact that at 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.960 the time, the justification as they're passing the Bowl in 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.879 Amendment is that contra funding comes in large part from 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.679 the Nicaraguan cocaine trade. And this is, as we talk 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.280 about in Part one two, this is when the crack 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.560 epidemic starting, right. So that's all very much tight into 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:48.680 this um and yeah, this is the stew of affairs 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:52.119 that in nineteen five, which is the first year that 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.760 the big study on crack babies is published, we get 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.960 the Iran contrast candle, and we're going to talk about 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:01.320 that in in your episodes problem, which you're gonna start 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.120 hearing tomorrow. I am going to peel back from that 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.919 for now. So again we're a little bit not completely 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:11.520 going along chronologically here because I Ran Contra deserves to 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:13.800 be talked about separately. We're going to get to that 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.000 in the next couple of episodes. What I want to 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:19.120 talk about now on our show is the CIA's history 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.040 dealing drugs to support their black ops, because this is 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.200 fucking cool ship. Actually yes, but you know what else 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.120 is cool ship? Prop Oh? Man, tell me what else? 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:32.280 The products and services that support this podcast less than 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.679 twenty percent of which are the CIA. I'm trying to 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.080 tell you, man, maybe maybe not much less. I'm gonna 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.040 be honest with you. I mean it might be a 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:49.760 percentage of uh, rubber, Reagan clogging Cox maybe well. And look, 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.080 you know there's a lot of things that that that 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.760 the CIA gets their hands and including the VP. Well, 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:57.800 actually it was the FBI who created that VCS and 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:01.840 all those people. Uh, it is fun that they just 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.880 get to do all that kind of ship anyway, good, 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:09.199 good reason, but fly to that job. Look, nobody, nobody's 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.080 going to try to sell you a mattress to fund 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:20.680 the c I A, you're good on that one. Oh 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:25.600 we are be a que That's how you spell back 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:33.200 when you're feeling saucy. So like, if you have any 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.359 any analysis on what's going on with Robert, please please 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:40.000 please feeling Randy some of us, some of us are artists, 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:44.480 Sophie honestly, honestly is quite a word. Smith and I 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:48.680 still and also as as as just stated, I think 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:51.560 Randy needs to come back, as I agree as an 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.760 adjective Randy. And so I've made a big change. I 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:56.360 think now that we've come back from break, I can 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.760 talk about this because this is going to affect everybody, 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:01.480 both in my personal life and who listens to the podcast. 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:05.639 Probably I've decided I'm going to start using the phrase 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:10.200 cash money more often, particularly when people do something that's 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:12.680 not cool. I'm gonna be like, that's not very cash money, 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:17.399 of you, like, that's not very cash money, Sophie. Now Now, 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.959 what is your definition of that, because my definition of 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.800