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Speaker 1: Court has blocked most of President Trump's trade tariffs. A

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Speaker 1: of the decades old International Emergency Economic Powers Act did

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Speaker 1: not quote delegate an unbounded tariff authority to the president,

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Speaker 1: and we are.

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Speaker 2: So pleased not just on behalf of you know, our states,

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Speaker 2: businesses that were on the verge of being hammered by

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Speaker 2: these tariffs, which really are taxes and tax increases. So

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Speaker 2: we're very happy about this decision.

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Speaker 3: You're correct.

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Speaker 2: The Trump administration has already indicated that they're going to

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Speaker 2: Trades decision which was very sweeping and put a halt

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Speaker 2: within ten days to all of these tariffs. Essentially, we'll

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Speaker 2: see what the court does. The court really issued a

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Speaker 2: very strong opinion. They essentially made a decision on the

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Speaker 2: decision by them, even though the States we were asking

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Speaker 2: for a preliminary injunction. So they actually went a little

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Speaker 2: further than we were even asking for. So they're very

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Speaker 2: strong in their decision. We'll see what they say. When

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Speaker 4: Have you spoken to the President and ultimately what's his

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Speaker 4: reaction to what we heard.

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Speaker 5: Haven't spoken to the president yet, but I've spoken to

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Speaker 5: a situation now. Big picture here is i EPO. We

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Speaker 5: were using the International Emergency Economic Powers Act. There's no

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Speaker 5: question that there's an economic emergency with respect of both

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Speaker 5: uses that we had. One is we are in a

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Speaker 3: We will continue to press on that. At the same time,

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Speaker 3: we invoke that rule to stop what has.

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Speaker 5: Been twenty million illegal aibling and streaming into our country,

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Speaker 5: driving down wages, taking jobs away. That's an economic emergency.

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Speaker 5: On top of that, the world continues to steal about

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Speaker 3: So we think we have a strong case.

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Speaker 5: Yes, we will immediately appeal and try to stay the ruling.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, the court, interestingly enough, basically

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Speaker 5: So nothing has really changed here in that sense. We're

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Speaker 5: still as we speak, having countries call us and tell

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Speaker 5: us they want a deal. So these deals are going

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Speaker 5: to happen. So that's kind of where we're at. And

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Speaker 5: it's troublesome here because if you look broadly at the pattern,

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Speaker 5: we've got courts in this country who are basically engaged

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Speaker 3: The American people.

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Speaker 5: The President ran on stopping the Fennel poising, stopping international

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Speaker 5: and courts keep getting in the way of that. The

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Speaker 5: that's where we stand here. And I think part of

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Speaker 5: what's going to be important about this ruling demonstrates yet

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Speaker 5: again to the American people that the judiciary in this

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Speaker 5: country has been weaponized in ways which are contrary to

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Speaker 6: Feel very confident as we move through the appeals process.

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Speaker 6: If you actually listened to what the Trump's lawyers were

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Speaker 6: arguing in court, it is befuddling. They were saying that

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Speaker 6: any emergency order cannot be reviewed by any judge. Then

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Speaker 6: they said any of the relief that they put out

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Speaker 4: By a judge.

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Speaker 6: Effectively, you could tax maple syrup in Canada to try

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Speaker 6: and impact fentanyl in the US. Absurd stuff. No judge

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Speaker 6: could review it. And as Agma's pointed out, these tariffs

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Speaker 6: trickle down to US. So they could put in one

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Speaker 6: thousand you know what, one thousand percent tariff on any good,

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Speaker 6: That's how powerful the judge's order was yesterday, and really

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Speaker 5: Look, any trade lawyer knows there's just a number of

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Speaker 5: different options we can take.

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Speaker 3: If you look at the.

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Speaker 5: Kind of things we've already done, they kind of give

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Speaker 3: There's all sorts of numbers out there.

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Speaker 5: There's one twenty two, there's three oho one, there's two

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Speaker 5: things we can do well within the law. But look,

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Speaker 5: we think that what we've done already is perfectly appropriate.

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Speaker 3: So that's why the appeal will take cake.

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Speaker 5: We have a situation where the bond market we're seeing

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Speaker 3: Point increase in yields in the ten year.

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Speaker 5: Since April second, and a lot of the hysteria around

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Speaker 5: the big beautiful tax bill centers on the Congressional Budget

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Speaker 5: Office scoring that bill in a way which says there's

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Speaker 5: going to be a three point seven trillion dollar addition

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Speaker 5: so of course you.

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Speaker 3: Got to finance that, and that drives.

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Speaker 5: Interest rates up and heads explode, when in fact, if

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Speaker 5: the history of the CBO forecast, you actually see about

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Speaker 5: a five trillion dollar swing to a two trillion.

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Speaker 3: Dollar surplus from the bill. And I'd like to say,

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Speaker 3: rk you through the math. There it's like this CBO.

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Speaker 5: The Congressional Budget Office historically has been very bad at

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Speaker 5: estimating impacts of tax bills. In the twenty seventeen tax cut,

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Speaker 3: They got that totally wrong.

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Speaker 5: They underestimated the GDP growth by a full percentage point.

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Speaker 7: And what that does if they make that same mistake here,

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Speaker 7: which they have done, well, you add that that's about

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Speaker 7: two trillion dollars of additional revenue because you got greater

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Speaker 8: And then, Peter, you also have the revenue from the tariffs,

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Speaker 8: which I saw your opinion piece in the Hill.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to.

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Speaker 8: Get back to the tar I just want to get

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Speaker 8: back to the tariff because you don't have that revenue.

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Speaker 4: Brillion if you don't have the law authority to use it.

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Speaker 9: Though, Democrats should not take the bait here. We should

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Speaker 9: not be the grand defenders of Harvard University. We should

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Speaker 9: be the ones calling for billions of dollars go to

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Speaker 3: This is wrong.

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Speaker 9: They have seven year zero, they have a seventy billion

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Speaker 3: From donating to the Harvard rowing team.

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Speaker 9: You get a tax deduction for getting students another sushi bar.

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Speaker 3: It is all about just.

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Speaker 9: People trying to retain social class.

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Speaker 3: It is a whole elitist play.

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Speaker 9: We all know that Harvard can defend themselves. Not one

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Speaker 3: True research we're going on at Harvard. They have hospitals.

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Speaker 10: I mean they and by the way, don't let know

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Speaker 3: Tons of scientific research that's completely wrong.

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Speaker 10: And also let me say this is victor orbad right,

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Speaker 10: this is hungry. This is what authoritarians do. They go

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Speaker 10: for universities because they don't want to send so when

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Speaker 10: you are actually it's not about Harvard. It's about academic freedom.

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Speaker 10: And that is a real thing that has nothing to

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Speaker 9: We're talking about politics here, and the Democrats have a

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Speaker 9: ton of things to focus on, Medicaid cuts, snapcuts, giveaways

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Speaker 9: to the rich. Harvard can handle themselves. People should not

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Speaker 9: get a tax deduction for giving the Harvard and they

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Speaker 9: have seventy billion dollars they don't need any more of arlot.

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Speaker 10: I just want to say one last thing. It's Harvard today,

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Speaker 10: it's every other college tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: All right, after all them this kind of court ruling,

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Speaker 8: Court said, if the ruling said Peter, and we've been

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Speaker 8: you were in your right if you use section one

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Speaker 5: Well, Section one twenty two only gives you one hundred

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Speaker 3: So there's your answer right there.

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Speaker 8: So are your section one twenty two if you us

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Speaker 5: You can be the strategist on that, but those are

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Speaker 3: Lead judging this, I mean the problem with that court.

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Speaker 5: But it's consistently been globalist pro importer giving us bad rules.

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Speaker 5: strong case with AIPA, but the court basically tells us

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Speaker 5: if we lose that we just do some other things.

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Speaker 5: Nothing's really changed. I want to say this to the world,

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Speaker 3: We're coming after you.

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Speaker 11: Deal and let's make this right, because ultimately what's at

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Speaker 5: And thereby, if it's fair to America, and we should

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Speaker 5: restructure this thing in a way we'll have just more

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Speaker 5: stability in terms of financial flows and capital and everything

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Speaker 5: like that. Nothing about arly out of balance.

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Speaker 3: Now, this is the primal scream of a dining regime.

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Speaker 12: Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on

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Speaker 12: these people. You're not going to free shot all these

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Speaker 4: The people have had a belly full of it. I

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Speaker 4: know you don't like hearing that. I know you're trying

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Speaker 4: to do everything in the world to stop that, but

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Speaker 4: you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: And where do people like that go to share the

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Speaker 3: big line? Mega media?

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Speaker 12: I wish in my soul, I wish that any.

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Speaker 3: Of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is

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Speaker 3: my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 4: If that answer is to save my country, this country

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Speaker 4: will be saved. War Room.

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Speaker 3: Here's your host, Stephen k Back.

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Speaker 12: It's Thursday, twenty nine May, Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 12: And then they came for the tariffs. Remember the three

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Speaker 12: lines of work. One stopped the kinetic part of the

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Speaker 12: Third World War from spreading and shut it down. How

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Speaker 12: people lay their guns down, President Trump all over that.

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Speaker 12: Number two is to stop the invasion of the southern

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Speaker 12: border secured and then deport thirteen million, not just the

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Speaker 12: the process of the CCP using the students to go everywhere,

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Speaker 12: including the weapons labs. Take this, take the positions from

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Speaker 12: American students, and then to report back every month to

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Speaker 12: the Chinese Communist Party. And oh, by the way, go

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Speaker 12: back and work in the technology companies.

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Speaker 4: Hey, guess what.

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Speaker 12: Educate them over there in a Hong Kong university. We

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Speaker 12: will welcome all scholars of the world. Go for it, baby,

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Speaker 12: you want to be, you want to be, You want

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Speaker 12: to be indoctrinated and educated in uh at Beijing University.

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Speaker 4: Go for it. I want to go to Hong Kong University.

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Speaker 4: Go for it.

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Speaker 12: Europeans saying, well, will well will show America We'll take

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Speaker 12: go go Bay Sice, let me sign up for that.

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Speaker 12: This is the greatest education system because it's underwritten by taxpayers,

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Speaker 12: underwritten by taxpayers, and they're to rip taxpayers off of

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Speaker 12: making sure the kids don't get jobs. President Trump, he's

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Speaker 4: You know what he's saying.

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Speaker 12: We're gonna go down to Harvard and we're gonna set

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Speaker 12: Okay, real quickly for I bring Joe Allen and folks in.

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Speaker 12: And this is it shows you in our history there

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Speaker 12: are strand strands in our history that connect all the

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Speaker 12: way through from the founding of this republic. This is

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Speaker 12: why we spend so much time on the revolutionary generation

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Speaker 12: and so much time on the on the on the

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Speaker 12: founding generation, they're a little bit different.

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Speaker 4: Okay, not totally, but a little bit.

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Speaker 12: But this fight about America, it goes all the way

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Speaker 12: back when I say Andrew Jackson, and some of our

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Speaker 12: brightest students in the war room ago Andrew Jackson, they

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Speaker 12: please explain. So they had this issue with tariffs in

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Speaker 12: Jackson's administration. Jackson was a hardcore uh you know, populist

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Speaker 12: and economic nationalists. He's the one that was not a

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Speaker 12: fan of the Bank of the United States, not a

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Speaker 12: fan of central banks, not a fan of New York

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Speaker 12: City and bankers overall, not a fan. They were right

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Speaker 12: down below. They were one notch below. Because he had many,

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Speaker 12: many confrontations with the Indian nations, all before the Battle

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Speaker 12: of New Orleans, and most before the Battle.

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Speaker 4: Of New Orleans.

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Speaker 12: Who became not just a national hero but international hero

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Speaker 12: because the Battle of New Orleans essentially ended the Revolutionary War.

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Speaker 12: It was such a hammer blowed to the British who

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Speaker 12: was still causing problems. I asked Kurt Mills yesterday between

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Speaker 12: things that said, who's the number one enemy thing? He said,

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Speaker 12: I sixter. It goes back a long way, right. Jackson

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Speaker 12: had a ruling in fact, the engine room, in the

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Speaker 12: engine room, the Arizona department in the engine room. I'm

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Speaker 12: not saying it's the best, but maybe the best. They're

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Speaker 12: pretty damn good they've got. They've already sent me a

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Speaker 12: meme the Court of International Trade. Interesting ruling, Now enforce it.

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Speaker 12: This is what Jackson told the courts a couple of times.

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Speaker 12: Because this was the forerunner to the to the.

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Speaker 4: To the Civil War.

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Speaker 12: The landed aristocracy, particularly down to places like Charleston in

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Speaker 12: the in the in the the folks that depended upon

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Speaker 12: slave labor, there were more Ballionnaires equivalent of Bayonniers. There

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Speaker 12: were more Baionnaires in Charleston in the local environs at

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Speaker 12: the start of the Civil War than any place on earth.

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Speaker 4: Extraordinary wealth.

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Speaker 12: This is why so many of the scotch Irish in Appalachia,

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Speaker 12: particularly East Tennessee, which never really broke off.

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Speaker 4: From the from the from the from the Union.

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Speaker 12: This is why Andrew Johnson hit the running mate of

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Speaker 12: Lincoln the second term, came from there.

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Speaker 4: But the hard bitten scotch Irish.

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Speaker 12: This is why my beloffd Commonwealth of Virginia had a

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Speaker 12: big old hunk taken out of it, because those those

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Speaker 12: folks that born fighting crowd up there in the heels

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Speaker 12: and hollers of West by God, Virginia said, we're not

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Speaker 12: into the tide warder plantation owners, not our deal. Jackson

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Speaker 12: basically said, told the courts when they ruled against him, Okay,

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Speaker 12: you enforce it.

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Speaker 4: We're going. Okay.

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Speaker 12: Two things to make sure you keep in your mind right.

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Speaker 12: Number one, we're hurtling down towards where we're in. I

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Speaker 12: agree with Rogan Hanley, we're any constitutional crisis right now,

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Speaker 12: because now I don't know, You're up to two hundred

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Speaker 12: of these courts, and now you've got the International Court

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Speaker 12: of Trade coming in hard on Trump saying no, no tariff,

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Speaker 12: no reorganization, no restoring. And you've got so, you've got that,

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Speaker 12: You've got the courts on him being commander in chief

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Speaker 12: and deporting the thirteen million illegal alien invaders. The courts

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Speaker 12: are stating there, and I say, hey, on the first,

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Speaker 12: suspend the writ of habeas corpus, suspend it what Lincoln did,

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Speaker 12: And Lincoln had a Lincoln had a harder argument, ladies

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Speaker 12: and gentlemen. I was raised in Richmond, Virginia, born in Norfolk,

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Speaker 12: but raised in Richmond, Hey. When I was raised as

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Speaker 12: a young kid, Lincoln is not Let's say, there's not

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Speaker 12: a lot of fans in Richmond for Lincoln. But in

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Speaker 12: looking at his greatness, he had a much much harder

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Speaker 12: He was a warlord, no doubt about it, but he

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Speaker 12: had a much harder legal argument because he couldn't say

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Speaker 12: the states were in rebellion then he would basically he couldn't.

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Speaker 12: He can never admit that the Confederacy was a nation.

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Speaker 12: He couldn't emit states were in a rebellion. There were

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Speaker 12: just elements in states that were in rebellion. This is

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Speaker 12: this whole issue about the Emancipation Proclamation. Emancipation Proclamation just

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Speaker 12: an executive order like President Trump signs every day. You

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Speaker 12: see those things. In the day a new administration comes in.

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Speaker 12: They can throw them all out, which Biden into, which

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Speaker 12: we did. We did twice. First, we do all Obama's out,

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Speaker 12: then Biden wrote a bunch of them. We do all

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Speaker 12: those out, or Biden threw all ours out, and then

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Speaker 12: we throw all the Biden's out. There's the executive order.

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Speaker 12: That's what the emancipation Proclamation is. Just an executive order.

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Speaker 12: They knew it ran out when Lincoln, when Lincoln's term

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Speaker 12: ran out, and Lincoln told the judge, hey, on rid

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Speaker 12: of habeas corpus, Hey you try to enforce it, I'm

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Speaker 12: gonna put you in jail. Boom, right between the eyes.

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Speaker 12: Andrew Jackson said the exact same thing, Hey enforce it,

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Speaker 12: big shot courts, enforce it.

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Speaker 4: This is we're coming down to judicial supremacy. And this

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Speaker 4: is why.

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Speaker 12: Harvard, which which grooms all these radicals, because that's what's

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Speaker 12: become a festering sour of radicalism. Yes, it's anti it's

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Speaker 12: got anti Semites there, and it's anti Semitic, and they

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Speaker 12: don't but that I don't think that should be pushed.

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Speaker 12: It puts too much burden on the Jewish kids. It's

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Speaker 12: far deeper than that. They hate the United States. They

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Speaker 12: hate the Judeo Christian West. And this is where they

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Speaker 12: all come from and go to Harvard Law School and

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Speaker 12: go to Yale Law School, and then they go to

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Speaker 12: the law firms, and these law firms are all radicalized.

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Speaker 12: And then they kick a bunch of these guys into

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Speaker 12: the into the judiciary. It's all a piece of a

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Speaker 12: whole cloth. And President Trump, he said, and it's in partnership,

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Speaker 12: not with the United States of America, not with the citizens.

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Speaker 12: They don't give a damn what you think. Out there

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Speaker 12: in Arkansas or Nebraska or Arizona or Texas. They could

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Speaker 12: care less about you. You just fodder and with AI

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Speaker 12: you're going to become a problem. And trust me, they're

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Speaker 12: going to work as hard as possible to make sure

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Speaker 12: that there ain't a lot of progeny around.

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Speaker 4: Okay, because you're just an issue.

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Speaker 12: They got to get down to that five hundred million

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Speaker 12: carrying capacity to Jane Goodall, she let it slip. But

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Speaker 12: I've heard smarter people than Jane Goodall have told me

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Speaker 12: the exact same thing. The carrying capacity of the planet's

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Speaker 12: about five hundred million. Let me think if I added

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Speaker 12: up all the elites of the world around thing, what

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Speaker 12: are our number come to five for five hundred million thereabouts? Wow,

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Speaker 12: there are no coincidences. You think that number is just randomly?

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Speaker 12: They just pulled it out. They detest you your problem.

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Speaker 12: Look at Harvard with twenty thirty twenty seven to thirty

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Speaker 12: one percent are foreign students, and a bunch of those

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Speaker 12: being paid for by you. And the ones from the

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Speaker 12: Chinese Commiest Party are signed a document.

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Speaker 4: They got to be an agent.

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Speaker 12: We're the biggest supporters of allowed by Jing overthrowing these dudes.

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Speaker 12: But you don't do that by allowing them to get

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Speaker 12: educated here and all their elites. Remember in the Chinese

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Speaker 12: Comedies Party, this is how much they love China and

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Speaker 12: the Chinese people. For number one priority is get steal

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Speaker 12: as much cash as possible from Lao bai Jing. They

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Speaker 12: make them, they make Congress and the people here look

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Speaker 12: like pikers. Take as much as possible. And the first

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Speaker 12: thing to do is get it the hell out of China.

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Speaker 12: Let's get it to midtown Manhattan real estate. Let's get

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Speaker 12: it into the West End of London. Let's be buying

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Speaker 12: some of these stocks. Let's get this into these private

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Speaker 12: equity funds. But get it out of here because we

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Speaker 12: have no worth the idea. What's going to happen? And

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Speaker 12: Lubaijing can get a little surly, maybe they overthrow us.

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Speaker 12: Number one. Number two is get their kids out and

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Speaker 12: get them educated in the West. President Trump dropping the

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Speaker 12: hammer last night and on the chips, and hey, guess

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Speaker 12: what the chips may be. And I've argued you got

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Speaker 12: to watch it. The chips may be the advanced chips

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Speaker 12: may be the equivalent of oil in July and August

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Speaker 12: nineteen forty one, and we know what happened there when

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Speaker 12: we put the embargo on them, and they had some

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Speaker 12: they had some hardcore guys and FDR's administration when they

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Speaker 12: put that, when they stopped all oil shipments and all

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Speaker 12: fuel and energy to Japan, they immediately they had been

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Speaker 12: planning on Pearl Harbor forever. They had the sneak attack

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Speaker 12: and was in nineteen oh five that they always celebrate

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Speaker 12: Port Arthur. I think it was a sneak attack on

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Speaker 12: the Russians. Hell they got, they got, they got during

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Speaker 12: Pancho Villa, when Pershing went down to Poncho vill on

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Speaker 12: the expedition. I think in nineteen eleven you had the

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Speaker 12: Japanese down there then talking to Poncho VI and these

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Speaker 12: guys about giving them money and guns and arms, and hey,

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Speaker 12: we want to tye up the United States in the

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Speaker 12: southern border. We want to infiltrate. These guys had a

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Speaker 12: big league strategic plan and they were executing on it.

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Speaker 12: She did come from oil. Guess what they did. Okay,

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Speaker 12: let's kick in the plan on Tora Tora tore. Let's go,

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Speaker 12: We're gonna take down Pearl Harbor, and the farm devils

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Speaker 12: are gutless soft and they ain't gonna fight.

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Speaker 4: Hitler and Tojo made a couple of bad.

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Speaker 12: Bets there, right, greatest generation, you know, got it responded

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Speaker 12: to the call to arms. That's kind of where we

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Speaker 12: are today. Jillian Tett over the Financial Times of London.

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Speaker 12: We can put that up. She final the first time

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Speaker 12: I've seen a piece like this in any major newspaper.

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Speaker 12: My beloved Financial Times of London. She talks about way

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Speaker 12: for it, geoeconomics. You heard that term before. She talks

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Speaker 12: about the inner relationships of national security, trade and finance. Hello,

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Speaker 12: that's what we preach every day here on War Room.

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Speaker 12: You a working class audience, in middle class audience. You

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Speaker 12: are so far up the learning curve on these people,

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Speaker 12: so far up the learning curve. Remember I had Westbury

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Speaker 12: the day, who's a fantastic He goes back and starts

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Speaker 12: saying about the balance sheet of the federal reserve backing thing.

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Speaker 12: You guys have heard that a million times, but he shocked.

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Speaker 12: They don't think anybody knows this stuff.

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Speaker 4: You know it. That's why you're such a powerful political force.

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Speaker 12: And that's why over the next I don't know, ninety days,

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Speaker 12: there's some tough decisions got to be made on the spending,

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Speaker 12: the big beautiful bill, the bond market, the you know,

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Speaker 12: there's a big article that Trump's going to lose his

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Speaker 12: base over this Russia thing right putin you know, still

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Speaker 12: acting trying to take down militarily Ukraine. They're slugging it

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Speaker 12: out using guess what, wait for it, artificial intelligence coupled

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Speaker 12: with drones drones just a mechanism, artificial intelligence, target acquisition

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Speaker 12: of fire control solutions like that they can't defend against.

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Speaker 12: So this summer, the fifteenth of June is the tenth

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Speaker 12: year of President Trump coming down the Golden escalator. That

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Speaker 12: is a preamble ten years in the making, is a

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Speaker 12: preamble to what happens next, and what happens next anchors

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Speaker 12: President Trump's historical significance. Yes, the first term, come from behind,

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Speaker 12: beat Hillary, stopped at globals. First term, get the judges

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Speaker 12: in fight, fight, fight against these globalists.

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Speaker 4: Then have the election stolen.

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Speaker 12: Then not retreat, not give up, up, and come back

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Speaker 12: like a hero of from ancient times, like mythology, to

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Speaker 12: come back and say I don't care what they do,

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Speaker 12: but I'm going to come back and lead this nation

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Speaker 12: back and now to get back here and fighting on

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Speaker 12: all fronts. And I might say the one that's we're

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Speaker 12: probably making the least progress on is maybe the one

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Speaker 12: that's most important for his legacy, and that is taking

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Speaker 12: down the deep state. Because the deep state that these

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Speaker 12: judges are just the action. They're the special forces of

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Speaker 12: the deep state. And these folks on MSNBC and The

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Speaker 12: New York times, hey enforce it. This whole thing of

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Speaker 12: judicial supremacy, Like, where did this come from? You're not supreme,

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Speaker 12: these radical judges, You're not over the executive branch, the

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Speaker 12: President of the United States. The inherent powers of the

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Speaker 12: executive branch. First off, the stated power is an Article

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Speaker 12: two Chief Executive Officer of the government, Commander in chief

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Speaker 12: of the Armed forces, and chief magistrate and chief Law

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Speaker 12: Enforcement officer. Those three that's the office of the president.

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Speaker 12: That's the office and implied in that particularly the commander

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Speaker 12: in chief role rights. As Lincoln argued, the inherent powers

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Speaker 12: are enormous, and this is this is the fight we're

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Speaker 12: going to have. The Harvard, the law firms, and these

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Speaker 12: radical judges. They're all different aspects of the same thing.

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Speaker 12: The special forces of the deep state and the globalist

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Speaker 12: to keep you in your place. And we ain't going

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Speaker 12: to be kept in our place. We fought too long

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Speaker 12: and hard to get back here. Sure commercial break for

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Speaker 12: the Lord of the Hong Kong.

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Speaker 3: We will fight to the god.

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Speaker 4: We will Moistic.

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Speaker 14: Intelligence Keithy here in Davos and first right here on

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Speaker 14: CNBC as Anthropics co founder in CooA area.

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Speaker 15: Mode Agi has never been a well defined term. For me,

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Speaker 15: I've always thought of it as a marketing term. But

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Speaker 15: you know, the way I think about it is, at

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Speaker 15: some point we're going to get to AI systems that

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Speaker 15: are better than almost all humans at almost all tasks.

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Speaker 15: The term I've used for it, and essay I recently

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Speaker 15: wrote is a country of geniuses in a data center strectory.

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Speaker 14: One of the things that you've done that I think

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Speaker 14: is remarkable is you have effectively taught or maybe it's

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Speaker 14: taught itself effectively how to use a computer, meaning effectively

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Speaker 14: it can go and use a mouse and find the

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Speaker 14: things that it needs to go off and do. How

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Speaker 14: game changing is that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: So the way I think of computer use, which is

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Speaker 15: what we call that capability, is I think of it

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Speaker 15: as the first step towards a broader vision. And the

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Speaker 15: idea is that that would be an agent that operates

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Speaker 15: on operates on your computer on a computer, might might

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Speaker 15: operate at work, and you can give it tasks. You

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Speaker 15: can say, you know, I write this feature for this app.

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Speaker 15: So over over the next year, we're going to be

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Speaker 15: gradually putting out the pieces of this vision, and along

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Speaker 15: with that, you know, making sure it's safe and controllable

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Speaker 15: and and all of those things.

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Speaker 16: And I think you will talk the chat giput over

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Speaker 16: the course of your life. At some day, maybe if

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Speaker 16: you want, it'll be listening to you throughout the day

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Speaker 16: and sort of observing what you're doing, and it'll get

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Speaker 16: to know you, and it'll become this extension of yourself,

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Speaker 16: this companion, this thing that just tries to like help

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Speaker 16: you be the best, do the best you can.

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Speaker 17: And yoll show a benjoh when he spoke, he said

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Speaker 17: that agentic AI is the thing to pay attention to.

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Speaker 17: This is when everything could go wrong as we give

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Speaker 17: power to AI to go out onto the internet to

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Speaker 17: do stuff. I mean going out onto the internet was

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Speaker 17: always in the sci fi stories, the moment where you know,

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Speaker 17: escape happened and potential things could go horribly wrong.

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Speaker 16: How the fear is totally rational, The sort of the

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Speaker 16: anxiety is totally rational. We all have a lot of

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Speaker 16: it too. But A there will be tremendous upside. B

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Speaker 16: I really believe that society figures out over time, with

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Speaker 16: some big mistakes along the way, how to get technology right.

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Speaker 16: And see this is going to happen. This is like

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Speaker 16: a discovery of fundamental physics that the world now knows

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Speaker 16: about and it's going to be part of our world.

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Speaker 4: Is it O'Neil?

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Speaker 12: The road technology in the West, I have to look

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Speaker 12: at it. I think technology when it first comes on

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Speaker 12: always looks for a human nature being what it is.

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Speaker 12: Folks think it all looks for a military application. Joe Allen, Brother,

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Speaker 12: we got to talk about this coming. It's not coming,

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Speaker 12: it's here now. The white collar job apocalypse. We're going

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Speaker 12: to get into that either listeners to the show or

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Speaker 12: viewers of the show. Plus, if you've got if you're

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Speaker 12: a little older, if you've got kids. This under thirty

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Speaker 12: five is about to get a viscerated. Write this down

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Speaker 12: as sure as the turn in the accelerationists and what

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Speaker 12: it's going to be upside for besides maybe you getting

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Speaker 12: to crib quicker right for your job, is going to

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Speaker 12: be the working class, in the middle class in this country.

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Speaker 12: The accelerationists are going to create all the value to them.

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Speaker 12: Joe Allen, your thoughts and observations, brother.

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Speaker 18: Morning, Steve, thank you for having me. You know, we

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Speaker 18: talk a lot on the War Room about cultivating human agency.

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Speaker 18: How do you give American people, especially working class people,

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Speaker 18: how do you give them agency? Where better put, how

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Speaker 18: do you encourage them to use their agency? Well, in

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Speaker 18: these top tech companies, from open ai to Oracle, Microsoft, XAI, SoftBank,

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Speaker 18: all of these companies, they're talking about how to give

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Speaker 18: computers agency. How do you turn an AI that typically

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Speaker 18: would need a human to constantly prompt it to act?

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Speaker 18: How do you give an AI agency to go out

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Speaker 18: and act? In the world, you heard there Anthropics CEO

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Speaker 18: Dario am Day. You heard open AI's CEO Sam Altman

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Speaker 18: talking about the next wave of AI being a gentic

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Speaker 18: AI AI as agent, an AI that can watch everything

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Speaker 18: that you do on your computer, an AI that, as

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Speaker 18: Sam Altman says, comes to know you, perhaps comes to

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Speaker 18: know you better than you know yourself, and is able

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Speaker 18: to actually go out onto the Internet and act on

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Speaker 18: your behalf. Most people would call that a dystopian nightmare.

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Speaker 18: Most people would call that a recipe for creating mush

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Speaker 18: brained human AI symbios. Basically cyborg pajama boys who just

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Speaker 18: sit around a way to, you know, ask computer to

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Speaker 18: send them a new pack of PJS in a box

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Speaker 18: of cocoa. But for these guys, it is first and

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Speaker 18: foremost a way to monitor you. It is a way

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Speaker 18: to control you, and ultimately it's a way to replace you.

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Speaker 4: They are billing it.

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Speaker 18: And perhaps even in their own minds somewhere they say

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Speaker 18: this is a way to empower you or help you.

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Speaker 18: But ultimately, you look back at the history of technology,

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Speaker 18: especially digital technology and surveillance technology, it hasn't empowered anyone

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Speaker 18: except for those who create it and deploy it.

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Speaker 12: Okay, everybody, remove number two princil from the number two

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Speaker 12: princile holder. Take out notebook and write down the following.

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Speaker 12: We're big. In nomenclature, agentic. Define agentic again. It's so genius.

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Speaker 4: Define agentic again, sir.

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Speaker 18: Right now, in the kind of embryonic phase of this,

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Speaker 18: agentic AI is a chatbot like say GPT, the model

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Speaker 18: that open ai uses as operator, and it goes out

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Speaker 18: onto the Internet and just does things for you, like

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Speaker 18: fills out forms or does your shopping. Maybe it can

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Speaker 18: respond to emails without you being there, these sorts of things. Right,

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Speaker 18: it's supposed to be a convenience. Agentic ai is an

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Speaker 18: AI that can act of.

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Speaker 4: Its own accord.

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Speaker 18: You send it out like a little genie to do

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Speaker 18: your bidding for you. Now, ultimately, even the people creating

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Speaker 18: this talk in terms of its danger, both an AI

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Speaker 18: going rogue and doing what it wants to do and

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Speaker 18: having the power to do so out on the internet.

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Speaker 18: But maybe most importantly, I think the biggest danger is

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Speaker 18: a human being creating something like this and sending it

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Speaker 18: out to do things, even sending it out as.

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Speaker 4: You it's transforming.

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Speaker 12: Hang on, it's transferring your human agency to a digital

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Speaker 12: avatar that's going to be you're giving That's why it's

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Speaker 12: a gentic. You're giving it your agency. And once it's

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Speaker 12: got your agency, baby, it's off and running.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, we'll come back.

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Speaker 12: We've got Brian Costello, We've got Joe Allen. Dan Epstein

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Speaker 12: is going to join us, one of the smartest brains

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Speaker 12: out there about this terriff.

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Speaker 4: We're doing it all today in the war room. Kind

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Speaker 4: of a strategy session.

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Speaker 12: I guess it's a information session before strategy session. How

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Speaker 12: does that saying the tip of the tip of the

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Speaker 12: spear is ready for action here in the war room.

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Speaker 12: We're going to leave you with the right stuff and

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Speaker 12: we are back, I think in one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 12: sevens