WEBVTT - How the Peace Corps Works

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you should know

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<v Speaker 1>from House Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there we go. We were caught off guard by guest

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<v Speaker 1>producer Casey. He gave us the Caseys the man the

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<v Speaker 1>quick punch. What's it called the quick punt? The haymaker.

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<v Speaker 1>The Haymaker's what we're calling it now. At least he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, we're recording. Yeah, He's like, okay, we're rolling

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<v Speaker 1>be funny monkeys. It's rather than start over. I did

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<v Speaker 1>my cheeks afterward. All right. It's unusual. It's an unusual

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<v Speaker 1>reversal of order, but we're gonna have to go with

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<v Speaker 1>it because we are low on tape. No one's gone

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<v Speaker 1>to Staples, so we just have to use this one.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't record over it again or else it'll snap.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny. That used to be an issue. Yeah on something. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's an abundance of everything. We have all supplies

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<v Speaker 1>out the yin Yang remember that ad for e trade.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got money coming out the wazoo. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>this e er team who were like hustling this guy

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<v Speaker 1>in a gurney to the to the emergency room and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, what's wrong with them? And they're like, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got money coming out the wazoo and it was coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of his his bottom. That's good his bottom, Chuck, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should say that. Um. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>special uh episode dedicated to the countless Peace Corps volunteers

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<v Speaker 1>who listened to Stuff you should Know and who have

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<v Speaker 1>written in over the years to say, hi, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>who were my best friends in you know, Benine, Turkmenistan. Um, yeah, wherever, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, we're finally doing that episode how Peace Corps works.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had quite a few right in over the years

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<v Speaker 1>and they're all super nice folks and uh it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to really be enjoying their time wherever they are. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're there. Um, goodhearted hustlers is how I would describe them. Really. Yea,

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<v Speaker 1>as of right the second Yeah, all right, so um,

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<v Speaker 1>let me take you back a little bit, chuck. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we need to go on the way

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<v Speaker 1>back machine. Not far, but it's not that far back.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're just gonna go to UM. October nine, Chile night, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>two am. And in ann Arbor, Michigan, at the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Michigan, a young senator named John Fitzgerald Kennedy was

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<v Speaker 1>working the campaign trail as his father worked to buy

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<v Speaker 1>votes in other states. And he gave a little impromptu

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<v Speaker 1>UM speech again at two a m. And at the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Michigan. I'm prepared for marks in front of

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand UM wolverines, and he said, Chuck, as follows,

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<v Speaker 1>how many of you who are going to be doctors

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<v Speaker 1>are willing to spend your days in Ghana ERA? Technicians

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<v Speaker 1>or engineers? How many of you are willing to work

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<v Speaker 1>in the Foreign Service and spend your days and your

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<v Speaker 1>lives traveling around the world ERA. On your willingness to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, not merely to serve one or two years

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<v Speaker 1>in the service, but on your willingness to contribute parts

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<v Speaker 1>of your life to this country. I think it will

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<v Speaker 1>depend the answer whether a free society can compete. So

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<v Speaker 1>I pressed their own button. I accidentally pressed the Catherine

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<v Speaker 1>Hepburn button. But that was what JFK said, Uh, And

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<v Speaker 1>that was the outline that was very good. Chuck, I'm kidny. Yeah, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the outline, the initial outline. The first time

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<v Speaker 1>you ever spoke publicly about his idea for the Peace Corps,

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor Quimby, I wish I could say my favorite line,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out which one calm down everyone. I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>all frightened and blank. Oh yeah, it was close. I

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<v Speaker 1>almost said it for you, um Sin, since fans will

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<v Speaker 1>recognize it and it's pretty will and we have plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of those crossover fans. Um. So that was the first

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<v Speaker 1>time he ever spoke publicly about what would become the

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<v Speaker 1>Peace Corps. Uh. And two weeks later he gave another

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<v Speaker 1>speech in San Francisco at the famous Cow Palace. Grateful

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<v Speaker 1>Dead played a pretty good show there in nineteen seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Allman Brothers did too. Yeah. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you were there drinking beers at age eighteen. Uh and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>After that second speech two weeks later in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, Hey, basically, let me know how you think

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and he got twenty five thousand letters in

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<v Speaker 1>response saying I would do that. So um. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the first things he did when he um gained the

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<v Speaker 1>presidency was to sign an executive order saying, okay, now

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<v Speaker 1>there's officially a Peace Corps. It was on March first,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty one, that he wrote the executive order and

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<v Speaker 1>it was placed into the budget the nineteen sixty two budget,

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<v Speaker 1>and Congress passed the budget officially enacting the Peace Corps

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<v Speaker 1>by default. Aniversary. Yeah this year it is, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even think about that. Yeah. They had some

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the graphics all over the website that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>sink in that I was looking at. Yeah. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>then shortly after that, well, a little while after that, Nixon,

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<v Speaker 1>who um JFK soundly beaten that that presidential debate, the

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<v Speaker 1>televised one. UM said well, I've always hated JFK. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take his his little pet project and just

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<v Speaker 1>put it over here. And Jimmy Carter came in and

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<v Speaker 1>went and hold on a minute, and he made it

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<v Speaker 1>its own independent federal agency with an appointment uh by

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<v Speaker 1>the president. And it's part of the foreign aid budget

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<v Speaker 1>usually about one percent, right, Yeah, this year it's and

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<v Speaker 1>last year I believe four hundred million dollars, which is

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<v Speaker 1>not chump change. Not only is it not chump change,

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<v Speaker 1>they asked for three hundred and seventy three million, and

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<v Speaker 1>they got four hundred millions. Yeah, I didn't know that

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<v Speaker 1>federal agencies got more than they asked for in the budget. Well, Bush,

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<v Speaker 1>h W and Obama have both pushed for expansion of

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<v Speaker 1>the Peace Corps. I think Bush wanted to double the

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<v Speaker 1>number of volunteers. He wanted to double the number of

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<v Speaker 1>CIA agents in the field. We'll get to that in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Why is Obama want to double it?

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume everyone has pure intentions here, goosh, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not all right. Um, it's been a resounding success

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<v Speaker 1>over the last fifty years. Um, there have been a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety three countries, surf chuck, I believe. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there have been more than two hundred thousand volunteers total,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen directors. The guy who's directing now Aaron S. Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the fourth director to have been a Peace

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<v Speaker 1>Corps volunteer. Back in the day, I figured they all were.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have too. Um. One of the more famous

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<v Speaker 1>ones who wasn't it was Paul Coverdell. Remember the statue

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<v Speaker 1>just behind us. Yeah, it says Peace Corps somewhere on it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I like about the Peace Corps site.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're trudging through it is when you see like

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<v Speaker 1>an Aaron Williams or whoever. They have their service in

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<v Speaker 1>parentheses next to their name, like Dominican Republic sixty seven

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<v Speaker 1>to seventy was where he was, right, pretty cool? Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably the most famous Peace Corps volunteers Chris Matthews from Hardball.

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<v Speaker 1>He really yeah, he did Swazzi Land to seventy. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you're gonna say, Evangeline Lily, I've lost fame.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I guess she's But I know Chris Matthews,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not familiar with the other lady. She may be

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<v Speaker 1>the hottest. Which one was she was? She like the

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<v Speaker 1>main female lead. Okay, very pretty lady. Um. Although she

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<v Speaker 1>was Canadian, she must have gotten her citizenship because you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be American. Yeah, that's a good point. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Something's fishy that we may have just uncovered in this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe she just flashed her smile and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>who don't care where you're from? So Um, the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of this, as you said, you you assume every buddy's

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<v Speaker 1>intensives are good, and I think that that's a nice

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<v Speaker 1>thing to assume. Um. The purpose of establishing the Peace

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<v Speaker 1>Corps threefold. It's the type of foreign aid, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>we have huge enormous foreign aid packages in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the um in the way of like surplus food and

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<v Speaker 1>just straight up money supplies, equipment, weapons, whatever, building things.

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<v Speaker 1>But Peace Corps, Uh, it's unique in that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>supply of foreign aid in the form of no how

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<v Speaker 1>and hands on, get it done. It's like the Toyota

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<v Speaker 1>tundra of foreign eight. Give him manifest Josh, and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>feed him for a day. And what they say, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's based on this right. Teach him to fish, he'll

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<v Speaker 1>eat for a lifetime. Yes, if he, if he, if

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<v Speaker 1>he gets good at fishing, unless he sticks, should we should?

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<v Speaker 1>We say what Their three part official mission statement is

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<v Speaker 1>help the people of interested countries and meeting their need

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<v Speaker 1>for trained men and women, helping promote a better understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of Americans on the part of the people served, and

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<v Speaker 1>to help promote a better understanding of other people's on

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<v Speaker 1>the part of the Americans. That's a bureaucratic mission statement

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<v Speaker 1>if I've ever heard it is. And I just read

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<v Speaker 1>something on NPR from a couple of years ago called

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<v Speaker 1>the Peace Corps Blues and the each country has their

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<v Speaker 1>own director and the former director and Cameroon said that

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks one of the things we're failing on now

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<v Speaker 1>is that a lot of people in these countries don't

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<v Speaker 1>realize that it's actually a U. S. Government program. Like

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<v Speaker 1>they know they're volunteers, but I think they think it's

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<v Speaker 1>some great nonprofit or like a mission group. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of fails at one aspect of the mission

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<v Speaker 1>statement in his eyes that these countries. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>big deals is for these countries to know, hey, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the U. S. Government coming over here and helping

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<v Speaker 1>us out. It's your uncle Sam. It's exactly who you

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<v Speaker 1>now owe a favorite to. He has some other problems,

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<v Speaker 1>but out with the program now, but I'll go over

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<v Speaker 1>those later. So, um, right now, there you have programs

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<v Speaker 1>in seventies six countries, but overall, I think a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety three countries have had programs at one time

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<v Speaker 1>or another, including country Choose that don't exist. The first

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<v Speaker 1>two to join the program. The interesting countries, as you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned in the mission statement were um, let me see

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<v Speaker 1>if I got this right, uh, Tanganyika. Tanganyika, which later

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<v Speaker 1>got together as in Zabar to form what we now

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<v Speaker 1>recognize as Tanzania. You knew that? Oh yeah? And Ghana

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<v Speaker 1>was the other two who JFK mentioned in his speech

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<v Speaker 1>in University of Michigan. So, um, it's had a at

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<v Speaker 1>the very least um of widespread impact. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>measuring the impact later, but um, let's get down a

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<v Speaker 1>new gritty right. I think just what we've said already

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<v Speaker 1>has caused some people will be like, where do I

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<v Speaker 1>sign up? Josh and Chucker are endorsing this, so let's

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<v Speaker 1>just skip to the end. Well, the first thing you

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<v Speaker 1>should know if you want to sign up is that

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be committing to twenty seven months of service

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<v Speaker 1>of volunteerism or a tour. A tour, you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>living for free. They're gonna provide your living accommodation while

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<v Speaker 1>you're there and give you a small stipend to spend money,

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<v Speaker 1>which evidently though, is more money than most of the

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<v Speaker 1>people you'll be helping. Hap That's like that old thing

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<v Speaker 1>where if you have a hundred dollars, you can live

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<v Speaker 1>for like ten years in Peru or something like that exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you come back home they're gonna give you

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand dollars two get you back going. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't want to leave you broke because you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had any real work for two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>or twenty seven months. So to give you six grand

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<v Speaker 1>to get you going again, put that down payment on

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<v Speaker 1>the apartment, yeah, to get you back in and right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the old thing, of course, I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>strength of the dollar. Um. So when you are applying Chuckers,

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<v Speaker 1>you you start out online. Apparently you can do it

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<v Speaker 1>in writing if you like, if you're like an Amish

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<v Speaker 1>kid who wants to write, who wants to sign up

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<v Speaker 1>for traditionalist right, Um, But for the most part, you

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<v Speaker 1>do this application online. And I looked at it and

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<v Speaker 1>it is extensive. Sure you're all of your education background,

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<v Speaker 1>any criminal history, how much you like to drink? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, any military service because one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>things they try to root out is whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>you have any intelligence background. And if you did, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder when you build that out for the drinking,

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<v Speaker 1>if you just put like a lot well yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. There's even a section where they say, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let us just define what we mean by problem drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>How many drinks per week is one of those, right?

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<v Speaker 1>How many sexual partners do you have a night? Any

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<v Speaker 1>things that you lie to your doctor about right, Um

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<v Speaker 1>there's also any any financial obligations you might have e g.

0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Student loans or um mortgages, car payments. Basically, they're like,

0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you can't just use us to escape your creditors. So

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<v Speaker 1>they want to They want to know not not only

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<v Speaker 1>like what you have, but how you're going to arrange

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<v Speaker 1>to pay them, and any kind of documentation you need references.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is like the first application and it's

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<v Speaker 1>very extensive. We want to weed out as many people

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<v Speaker 1>as possible right off the bat, right, and if your

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<v Speaker 1>application is selected, right, they were lucky. First of all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think yeah, I would imagine it's a fairly low

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<v Speaker 1>percentage because there's just so many um red flags that

0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.640
<v Speaker 1>they're looking for. So many alcoholics, right, so many problem drinkers.

0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.319
<v Speaker 1>That's what they call it. Um that that you know

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you raise one, they're going to be like, no,

0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.520
<v Speaker 1>there's ten other people who are applying who don't have

0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.760
<v Speaker 1>that red flag. So if you make it through the

0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.920
<v Speaker 1>initial application process, they're going to ask you to come

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<v Speaker 1>in for an interview and they weed out more people here. Um. Basically,

0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.760
<v Speaker 1>what they're trying to figure out mainly is if you

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<v Speaker 1>are likely to complete your term of service. What they

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<v Speaker 1>don't like is people that have to leave. I'm sure

0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.079
<v Speaker 1>that's highly discouraged to leave the Peace Corps during your tour.

0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:52.880
<v Speaker 1>So they want to know if you have like a

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<v Speaker 1>serious if you're in a serious relationship. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>know stories about your childhood, where you've motivated others to

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<v Speaker 1>comp fleet tasks. Um, they want to know, um, how

0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.240
<v Speaker 1>you how? Yeah, any medical conditions. I think that's in

0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the initial application. Yeah, but it's sort of like the

0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.160
<v Speaker 1>army and that you can be denied because of medical

0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.800
<v Speaker 1>conditions obviously, right. Um. The one of the one of

0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the interview questions I saw was, uh, tell us about

0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.120
<v Speaker 1>a rule that you have trouble following. And the correct

0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.960
<v Speaker 1>answer for that is, uh, the rule I have trouble

0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.880
<v Speaker 1>following is the rule that asks me to stop when

0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I've done just enough the bare minimum. That's the right answer. Yeah. Um,

0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.600
<v Speaker 1>would you modify your appearance to fit in with the

0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.480
<v Speaker 1>local culture, like would you shave your mohawk or take

0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.480
<v Speaker 1>out your piercings? Or whatever. How will you stave off

0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.120
<v Speaker 1>boardom The correct answer to that is an iPod full

0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.760
<v Speaker 1>of stuff you should Yeah, that's what it sounds like.

0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.560
<v Speaker 1>So there you go. There's your all your crib notes

0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.520
<v Speaker 1>for the interview. Yeah, and if you pass the interview,

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<v Speaker 1>it gets really exciting from that point because if you

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<v Speaker 1>get an official invitation, it's pretty neat. You get ten

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<v Speaker 1>days to decide, and it's fairly vague. Send some guy there,

0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.800
<v Speaker 1>he's like, come on, come on, because basically they want

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<v Speaker 1>to know if you're in for the Peace Corps, not

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in to go to Indonesia and teach English

0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:20.520
<v Speaker 1>or surf, because exactly there might be other reasons. Uh.

0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:22.280
<v Speaker 1>So what they do is to give you ten days

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<v Speaker 1>to decide, and they leave it fairly vague. They give

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<v Speaker 1>you a probably like a probably not even a country,

0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.280
<v Speaker 1>probably like a continent like Asia, Yeah, where we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>send you, and they do detail a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>what the job you'll have, but they basically want to

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<v Speaker 1>know are you in for the Peace Corps no matter

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<v Speaker 1>where we send you, And if you say yeah, then

0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.200
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get your departure date and then that's when

0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get some more specific information. He's like, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>high fives. He's like, all right, I'll be back in

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<v Speaker 1>like a couple of weeks with their other letter, like

0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.040
<v Speaker 1>you're going to Turkey, and then he goes, uh, sorry,

0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.880
<v Speaker 1>no surfing in Turkey, although there probably is, you think

0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:03.600
<v Speaker 1>on the Boss verse surfing Turkey. Yeah, alright, surf Turkey. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You get a little orientation appointment and then you get

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<v Speaker 1>sent off to that country for a three month training period. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're eighteen, if you're a US resident, no upper

0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:19.640
<v Speaker 1>age limit, you can be no depending only really old

0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.320
<v Speaker 1>and still go to the Peace Corps. I guess if

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<v Speaker 1>you pass everything no dependence, I just noticed that. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize. I guess they're like, yeah, we want you

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<v Speaker 1>to not just abandon your family. That's a nice move. Yeah,

0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and you have to have a high school diploma, yes, Josh,

0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and you do need that diploma. And you also can

0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.040
<v Speaker 1>be married. But it's a pretty small percentage. Think about

0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.720
<v Speaker 1>three percent or married couples or is it seven percent? Yes?

0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Seven percent married single. I think it waffles. So um, yeah,

0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.720
<v Speaker 1>one percent is undecided, and that they will send you

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<v Speaker 1>with your married partner. They can there are some assignments

0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.920
<v Speaker 1>where they'll send both of you to the same place

0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.680
<v Speaker 1>to work together, but apparently those are kind of few

0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and far between. You can't put in for your girlfriend boyfriend, No,

0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.240
<v Speaker 1>you can't at all, and you both have to be

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<v Speaker 1>accepted fully as Peace Corps volunteers who could be sent

0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.760
<v Speaker 1>to different corners of the earth. I think they'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to help people out there. I'm sure they do. UM,

0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.440
<v Speaker 1>but you can't have any kids there, and you can't

0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:19.520
<v Speaker 1>take your pets, which is not a surprise, a little

0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.920
<v Speaker 1>field mouse, not a surprise at all. You can't take

0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.720
<v Speaker 1>your pets. So if you have pets, like you gotta

0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.639
<v Speaker 1>look at your life. You know, if you are a

0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.840
<v Speaker 1>homeowner with pets, then you probably shouldn't volunteer for the

0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Peace Corps. You can volunteer here at home join them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know a A. But if you are single

0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.919
<v Speaker 1>and you're living in Brooklyn, you don't have any cats,

0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.720
<v Speaker 1>and you got time to kill and a in a

0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.720
<v Speaker 1>heart that wants to serve the world, and you know

0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:54.520
<v Speaker 1>about UM. I don't know repairing motorbikes in Indonesia or

0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.840
<v Speaker 1>you speak of foreign language. These are all things like

0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:58.879
<v Speaker 1>these hobbies, they really get into that. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like when you put down your hobbies for a college

0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.560
<v Speaker 1>education or a college application and no one really cares

0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.520
<v Speaker 1>about that. I hate to break it to you, but

0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:08.320
<v Speaker 1>do they really do? In the Peace Corps, if you

0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:13.000
<v Speaker 1>have skills as a as a gardener, they want to

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<v Speaker 1>know about that, or if you were like a landscape

0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.760
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. Yeah, and what what they're gonna say,

0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.800
<v Speaker 1>here are all of our programs. Choose. Then you're gonna choose,

0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:23.480
<v Speaker 1>and then they're gonna be like, Okay, no, this is

0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:25.560
<v Speaker 1>where we really need you. And they will send you

0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:29.240
<v Speaker 1>where they need you ultimately based on your skills, your background,

0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.760
<v Speaker 1>your hobbies. You could always get sent where you might

0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.080
<v Speaker 1>like to go. And if you have know that language,

0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that's a big leg up in that direction, I think.

0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.480
<v Speaker 1>But I think you should be prepared to know that

0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.920
<v Speaker 1>they they may send you wherever. Yeah, that's part of it.

0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.119
<v Speaker 1>But you're doing this for the love of helping others,

0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and really it doesn't matter because there's only one race,

0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.640
<v Speaker 1>the human race. I just think that's really exciting. Yeah,

0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I did not know where you're going to go, and

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<v Speaker 1>to be I wish I would, I would join, I

0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.240
<v Speaker 1>would go back and do it all over again. I

0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:58.960
<v Speaker 1>would do it different. I would join the piece for

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years. You can of what I

0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.200
<v Speaker 1>always think of when I think of the Peace Corps.

0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I think of um, Julie Haggarty and the League guy

0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.800
<v Speaker 1>from Airplane when they went and told him, yeah, she

0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:14.000
<v Speaker 1>has a party and he's teaching basketball and Harlem Globe

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<v Speaker 1>Chottera dancing. That was that was different. I was thinking

0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.560
<v Speaker 1>the discos scene when he was yeah, that's different. Yeah,

0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:21.520
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, that's what I think of when I think

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<v Speaker 1>of Peace Corps. I think of the Tom Hanks movie Volunteers.

0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I never saw that one, but that's where he met

0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.120
<v Speaker 1>his wife Frida Wilson. Oh yeah, I guess so, huh. Yeah.

0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I never saw that because I always hated the Tennessee Volunteers,

0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:34.440
<v Speaker 1>so I refused to see that movie in case it

0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:38.360
<v Speaker 1>helped them anyway. Yeah, and I still do right, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>Josh packing, They only allow you to take two bags

0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:44.959
<v Speaker 1>for twenty seven months, which doesn't sound like a lot. Well,

0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:47.159
<v Speaker 1>not only that, there's a weight limit, yeah, eighty pounds

0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.960
<v Speaker 1>right a k A thirty six point to eight seven

0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:55.600
<v Speaker 1>kilograms for our non imperial measurement friends. So what they

0:19:55.640 --> 0:20:00.600
<v Speaker 1>suggest is take things that you cannot get elsewhere, and

0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:02.520
<v Speaker 1>then when you get there you can buy some of

0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the other things, like don't don't bother packing crock pot

0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:08.960
<v Speaker 1>because you can get a crock pot in Benin. Yeah,

0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.360
<v Speaker 1>or can you Well, there's going to be some other

0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.720
<v Speaker 1>cookware that you don't wear. Yeah, it's just stupid that's

0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.800
<v Speaker 1>going to take up everything. But they said bring you know,

0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:23.080
<v Speaker 1>bring some good old fashioned American undy's and rain gear

0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:25.280
<v Speaker 1>and hiking boots and stuff like that you probably can't

0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:27.080
<v Speaker 1>get in these other countries. Yeah, so you want to

0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:30.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to blow your weight on um, the the

0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:32.800
<v Speaker 1>the essentials that you're not gonna be able to find

0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.200
<v Speaker 1>anywhere else. Maybe that iPod. They said, you can bring

0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a laptop. But one thing you're not guaranteed is electricity. Yeah,

0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:42.639
<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a pretty common misconception that it's like

0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 1>all thatched huts and no municipal water supply, no electricity,

0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.160
<v Speaker 1>And that's not true at all. The no thatched hut

0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.600
<v Speaker 1>thing is not true at all. The no municipal water

0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.639
<v Speaker 1>supply and no electricity. Think, that's extremely true in a

0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:56.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of cases. Well so is the thatched hut here

0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.399
<v Speaker 1>and there. Okay, but you can volunteer to go to

0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.119
<v Speaker 1>those places. You can you can also be sent to

0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:03.960
<v Speaker 1>those places. But you can also say I want to

0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:05.639
<v Speaker 1>go to a place that has no running water and

0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:09.920
<v Speaker 1>no electricity and I want to help there. Um. But

0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.600
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of assignments where even if you

0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:15.480
<v Speaker 1>say no, I don't want that, they'll be like, yeah,

0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I think they call those people the hard core yes

0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.800
<v Speaker 1>of the Peace Corps, Like you know what I signed

0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:23.679
<v Speaker 1>up for this, send me to the edge of the cliff.

0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Here's my iPod. Even that's crazy. Yeah, A lot of

0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:33.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these people are teach in these in

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<v Speaker 1>like local schools though that you know, they have power

0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.720
<v Speaker 1>and water and they're they're more. It's not as third

0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:40.879
<v Speaker 1>world as you might think it is in many cases.

0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine in a lot of cases, it's like, um,

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:46.679
<v Speaker 1>some of the places we went in Guatemala or they

0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:50.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't have anything resembling in municipal water supplies. It was

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.240
<v Speaker 1>just like there's a there's a pond over there. But

0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:56.680
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't printive, no, I mean there were buildings and

0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.440
<v Speaker 1>structures and people wear clothes and things like that. It's

0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:03.840
<v Speaker 1>not like living with the Yana Mamo exactly. So what's

0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:05.840
<v Speaker 1>day to day life like, Josh, if you're a peace

0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:09.159
<v Speaker 1>war volunteer, um, well, day to day life is actually

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:11.439
<v Speaker 1>a lot looser than you would think. Basically, they give

0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:14.240
<v Speaker 1>you an assignment like say, um, we want you to

0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:19.880
<v Speaker 1>teach agricultural techniques, modern agricultural techniques or maybe sustainable agricultural

0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:25.840
<v Speaker 1>techniques to these people in Guam. Great well Guam even

0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:28.119
<v Speaker 1>qualified though it's a U S territory, I would think

0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:32.840
<v Speaker 1>it'd be outside of the US foreign policy scope. Let's

0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 1>just say someplace in Africa. Then let's go again with

0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:42.960
<v Speaker 1>um tanga yaka, tanga yeika, Yeah, tanga yika um. And

0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you go and you say, okay, well this is here's

0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:47.880
<v Speaker 1>some ideas for how I'm going to teach these people

0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:52.680
<v Speaker 1>sustainable agriculture and tangan yika uh and um that you

0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:55.760
<v Speaker 1>get there and they're like, there is no tangan yika anymore, jackass,

0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:59.480
<v Speaker 1>it's all Tanzania. And you go, well, it's still applies.

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 1>So here's what I'm going to do. And your day

0:23:02.600 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 1>to day, your hours, um, how you interact with people,

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>what you teach them. Probably it's a lot up to you.

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:11.920
<v Speaker 1>There's nobody looking over your shoulder like they pretty much

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:15.400
<v Speaker 1>just give you a parachute and drop you off, say

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 1>see you later, good luck. That's not true. You do

0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:22.359
<v Speaker 1>go alone, though, and depending on how remote you are,

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:25.440
<v Speaker 1>you may be the only American face you see for

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a while, although in other places there might be other

0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 1>volunteers that you know within the town, but you're still

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>technically sent alone. One of the things I think we've

0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:37.399
<v Speaker 1>skipped over is you are allowed to receive friends. Your

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 1>friends can come visit you on their own dimes. I

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:41.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't know that. I didn't either, but they can come

0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:43.159
<v Speaker 1>hang out with you if you want. Yeah, you need

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 1>to see a friendly face or whatever. Um packages you

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 1>can get packages. You can go, um travel at your

0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:52.399
<v Speaker 1>own expense. You can go to the capital city. You

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.960
<v Speaker 1>can go wherever there's WiFi and load up on your stuff.

0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 1>You should know episodes. Um you can do a little

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:01.359
<v Speaker 1>sight seeing whatever you want. Again, you're stutting your own hours.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think for the most part, they imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>if you are the kind of go getter who volunteers

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 1>for a peace corps, you're not just gonna like lay

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 1>around all day. True enough, although that same guy mentioned earlier.

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Robert Strauss, who was the director former director in Cameroon,

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<v Speaker 1>said he does feel like these days some volunteers use

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<v Speaker 1>it as quote employer of last resort, and that, uh,

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:30.680
<v Speaker 1>some recruits use it as an extended spring break from college.

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.159
<v Speaker 1>I can see that, and I think that's rare. But

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 1>he says that is a problem, and he wants the

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.359
<v Speaker 1>standard to be what you talked about. Well, you know

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 1>that's Peace Corps problem. Their their process is not rooting

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 1>them out. Yeah, you know it needs to be like

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>are you a pothead? Yes, no, there's your there's your

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>rooting out system. And depending on if you were a pothead,

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 1>it would depend on where they would send you. Like

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:56.879
<v Speaker 1>just how bad of a pothead exactly? Um, you mentioned

0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:00.680
<v Speaker 1>packages to Chuck you can't get packages. But our good

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>friend Um grab Banowski, who wrote this, he says that

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>there are there is such a thing as quote corrupt

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:13.720
<v Speaker 1>mail workers who pill for your packages sometimes. Um, it

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 1>could take forever. So he recommends that you have friends

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 1>and family start sending you packages and letters before you

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 1>even leave the US, so that when you get there,

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 1>you'll get some stuff in the first few months and

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.200
<v Speaker 1>it'll keep you from being so homesick. I would send

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>myself a bunch of stuff, you know, I wouldn't count

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 1>of my family to do it eighty pounds because they'd

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I wouldn't get any

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.680
<v Speaker 1>packages to like the end of year one if I

0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:39.399
<v Speaker 1>left it to my family. That's not true, that's not

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I didn't get a lot of college packages.

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's just say that I neither care packages. Yeah. I

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 1>was like, do you even know what that is? I

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 1>want you to send you one of these? And I

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>basically just walked my dad around the store, like put

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 1>this in there, put that in there. Yeah, it's getting

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:57.360
<v Speaker 1>a little heavy. I mean, we can take the can

0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 1>goods out right. Yeah. But of course now went to

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:02.720
<v Speaker 1>school sixty miles from where I lived, So if I

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.439
<v Speaker 1>would have gone like across country, I might have got

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>more care packages. Maybe you just keep telling yourself that exactly, So,

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Chuck Um, there's some advantages once you return your tours over.

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>There's some advantages to um being a Peace Corps volunteer.

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh didn't hurt any resume. It shows a lot of

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 1>stick to itiveness and get uppitude and beyond the fact

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>that it like proves your commitment as a human to

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>a task, which is huge. You also get the inside

0:26:31.119 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>scoop on getting a government job if you're interested in

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:37.719
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. Yes, like you get um you're

0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>available to list that other people might not see. Your

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:45.880
<v Speaker 1>privy to information. You're also given priority hiring priority over

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 1>somebody who may even have better qualifications than you but

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:52.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a Peace Corps volunteer, sorry, sucker, which is one

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>of the reasons our government functions like it does. Um,

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 1>So what is the stunt, Chuck? How do you measure

0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the success of something like the three points of the

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>mission statement? You said, Strauss criticized one of them. Let's

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>talk about the accomplishments. Well, that's one of the problems

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 1>is it's tough to measure that in any sort of

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of statistical way. So the only way you can

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>really measure it is to talk to the volunteers themselves.

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>And usually when you talk to them afterwards, they're like,

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I learned pretty quick that I was

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to kind of reset my goals and make

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>them a little smaller in scope, like going from I

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>want to help the world too, I want to help

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:43.200
<v Speaker 1>this village. Yeah, which is good, and that's helping the

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 1>world because seven thousand people doing that in villages all

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>over the world, so combine collectively, it seems to be

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>doing that. Yeah. But it is tough when you have

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 1>a four dred million dollar program, even though it's a

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 1>scant fraction of the of the but of the budget. Um,

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you still have to show metrics, I imagine, and pretty

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>tough in this case. You know. Uh, yeah, I guess,

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, like you said, there's no quantitative way

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 1>to spell it out because you can't. I mean, I

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:13.160
<v Speaker 1>guess you could go pull people where there have been

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>um uh Peace Corps volunteers and ask them, do you

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>like America more or less? Now? Yeah, and if it's

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 1>more than awesome, there you go quantified. There's a check

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>right there. They do say that most volunteers come back

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>feeling like they gained a lot from it, for sure.

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>So that's one of the three right there. You go,

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>at least at least one third of it is accomplished. Um.

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>There are also a lot of criticisms as I think

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>we've kind of leaked out here there of Peace Corps,

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>which is you know, that's any any noble experiment is

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>going to um result in criticism. There's always going to

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>be poopooers, people who you know, don't put their money

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>where their mouth is, but yet have plenty of time

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>to point out all the problems with something e g. Me,

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>So what are they? Uh, Well, sadly, should we go

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>ahead and get into the crime thing? Sure. One of

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the criticisms is that there has been crime committed by

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>and against Peace Corps volunteers over the years, and um

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that the Peace Corps hasn't done a very good job

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>of backing these people, and some alleged they've even tried

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty hard to cover up a lot of this stuff. Yeah,

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 1>there was UM it was I think last year. This year,

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>UM in Washington there was a bit of a stir

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.959
<v Speaker 1>when Congress was basically forced to start inquiring into how

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the Peace Corps handles reports of, say like sexual violence

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:52.719
<v Speaker 1>against volunteers. UM. A group of volunteers was organized by

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>a former volunteer named Casey Frazy, and she started UM

0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>First Response Action, which is basically like it's the group

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>former volunteers who were subject to sexual violence and who

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>were mistreated by the Peace Corps when they returned a

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of them reported basically being implied that it was

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>their fault. What had they been drinking, what were they wearing,

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 1>had they been like sleeping around? Basically were they asking

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>for it? Which is not what you do to your people. Know,

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>And uh, Statistically, every year, on average, twenty two Peace

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Corps women report being victims of rape or attempted rape,

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and more than one thousand from two thousand to two

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>thousand nine reported sexual assaults. And you know a lot

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>of these go unreported still, so that number may be higher.

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>And that's We're not trying to poop anything, but that's

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>really sad. And you know, Obama and the and the

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>new guy Aaron Williams have said that they need to

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>take this way more seriously and make it a more

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>victim centered approach, taking more victim centered approach to this.

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>One of the reasons that that's going on, apparently is

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>because there's a clause in the nineteen Peace Corps Act

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>that says, if you're a Peace Corps employee, you mean

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>as a Peace cor employees, do you know that she

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>worked at h Q, Yeah, you can't be you can't

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>work there for longer than five years. And the whole

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>point is to keep the keep the place young, keep

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the ideas fresh, or keep it you know, really um

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>um rolling with the punches. But one of the one

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 1>of the problems with that is that it has no

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>institutional memory. If no one's been there longer than five years,

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>there are some who are grandfathered in, but if no

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 1>one's been there for longer than five years, and your

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>director comes aboard like every three or four five years,

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe um, there's no memory on how to handle big

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 1>problems like this. So things can very easily be brushed

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>under the carpet. And sadly, Josh, there have been by

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>my count, three murders the Peace Corps volunteers. One just

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand nine, Kate Pusey was murdered in Benin,

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and uh this one drew a lot of a ten

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>because Kate was essentially ratting out a local employee of

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the school she was working at, who she believed was

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>h sexually assaulting the girls at the school. She wrote

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>the Peace Corps office and somehow this got back to

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>him and he tied her to a porch and slit

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>her throat, and the parents were pretty upset that this

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>was leaked. And although I don't think they like verified

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>if the Peace Corps leaked it, surely they wouldn't do

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. But they're pretty upset that it wasn't

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>as confidential as it should have been and that it

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>led to her murder. And then, most famously, um was

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen seventies. Deborah Gardner was stabbed to death

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>by another volunteer in Tonga in ninety six. And he

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>is still walking streets of Brooklyn. Yeah, I've read a

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>New Yorker article on this. It was really interesting. So

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>what there was a series of legal quirks that led

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>to him batt Yeah. What happened was she was very

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>pretty and he liked her very much, and she did

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>not return the affection. And one night, after a party

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>in the town where there were some other volunteers, she

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>got a little too drunk apparently fell down a couple

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>of times on the dance floor, and one of her

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>ex boyfriends who was there, took her back to her

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>hut and you know, put her to bed. Five days later,

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Priven comes into her hut and stabs her twenty two times.

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>And it was um supposed to go a little different.

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>He had like a pipe and a knife, and like cyanide,

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>and it was supposed to be he was supposed to

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>like knock her out and torture her, but she like

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a woke up when he got there and fought him off,

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>and it just led to like, you know, a brutal stabbing.

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>He was trying to pull her out of the hut.

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>When people saw him, he fled on a bike. She

0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>was able to name her attacker before she died. And um,

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>they had a trial in Tongo where he was um

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>where the American government said he has schizophrenia and we

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>are going to if you let him go here, we're

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:17.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna commit him to an institution in Washington State when

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>we get back. And uh, problem is when they got

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>back to Washington State, you they didn't accept you know,

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 1>like you couldn't commit someone at that point. So it

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:31.359
<v Speaker 1>was basically not a ruse, but it was they got

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>him out of the country and then basically there was

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>no recourse. They couldn't try him in America and they

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 1>couldn't commit him involuntarily, and he went, you know what,

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go I'm going back to New

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>York and that's what he did and that's where he

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>still is. So had he been diagnosed with schizophrenia. Um,

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that he had by one doctor there. But

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 1>then later on he did volunteer to go to this

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:59.320
<v Speaker 1>hospital and get tested and they said that he suffered

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>from uh from psychosis in the moment, I can't remember

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 1>what they called it, but basically went nuts that night.

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>But he's not schizophrenia, doesn't have schizophrenia. He's walking around

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 1>New York still huh. Yeah. Wow. They wrote a book

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>about it, and he keeps it pretty low pro but

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine he's got a pretty good job. He

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>worked for Social Security as like a eighty thousand dollar

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>year computer guy. So it's really sad. Yeah, but that

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.280
<v Speaker 1>is the exception. We don't want to pay a negative

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 1>picture here, but um, they have. They have called on

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the Peace Corps to clean up their act for sure

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to crime. Yeah, and the Peace Corps

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 1>first part says we do not place Peace Corps volunteers

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>in unsafe environments. That's what Aaron Williams said, But he

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:44.800
<v Speaker 1>also said we need to we need to handle like

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the any victimization that does happen way better than we are. Um, chuck.

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>There's also the CIA allegations. I don't know much about this.

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>So for basically since its inception, just the value of

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>having said in thousand kids being placed in local environments,

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>gaining the trust of people, interacting with other nationals from

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:12.760
<v Speaker 1>other countries, uh in a third place, a neutral setting,

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>just the the intelligence value of them by default is

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 1>is incalculable. But the from the outset, the two have

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>been intended to be separated, right, Peace Corps has nothing

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>to do with intelligence, Like if you have an intelligence background, sorry,

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>you can't be in Peace Corps. If you're in Peace Corps,

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you have to wait four years before you can get

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>a any kind of intelligence assignment in the military. Um.

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 1>So that on paper they're very much separate. But everybody,

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.839
<v Speaker 1>including people who live in these countries that are being

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>served by Peace Corps, have always assumed Peace Corps volunteers

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>are often asked to do intelligence field work. And in

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>two thousand eight some kids came forward in Bolivia and said, hey,

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 1>while we're down there, government told us to to start,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, keeping reports and filing reports on Venezuelan and

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<v Speaker 1>Cuban nationals who were living and working down there. They

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to know all about these people. That's intelligence field

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<v Speaker 1>work and has that proven Yeah, well yeah, the the US, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Peace Corps said that this was uh an error,

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<v Speaker 1>that it was in violation of Peace Corps policy. But

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<v Speaker 1>basically that yeah, enough of these these believing volunteers came

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<v Speaker 1>forward that they couldn't say that it wasn't true. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of thing. So apparently it has happened

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<v Speaker 1>at least once. Um, and it's not like wet work

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. I don't think the Peace Corps

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<v Speaker 1>volunteers have ever been asked to like Greece a dictator

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. But wet work I've never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Yeah, that's that's hands assassinations. Yeah, what does

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<v Speaker 1>wet mean? I imagine blood and gore tissue wet from blood. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, those are the criticisms. Again the chuck. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should say that my hat is off to

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<v Speaker 1>Peace Corps and the volunteers for the work that they do. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and and if you're a female Peace Corps volunteer, be

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<v Speaker 1>really careful. We encourage you to be very mindful because

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're alone in these countries and bad things

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<v Speaker 1>do happen sometimes, and um, just be vigilant and take

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<v Speaker 1>care of yourself. Oh yeah, and I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>goes for all Peace Corps volunteers. Women are a little

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<v Speaker 1>more susceptible to to that kind of crime obviously, but

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, yeah, got anything else, No, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>it man, Hap Corps. Yeah, hats off to you, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to all of our listeners who are Peace

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Corps volunteers or have been Peace Corps volunteers, and who

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<v Speaker 1>have written us to say thanks for being there. We hope,

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<v Speaker 1>uh well we we thank you back for taking us

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<v Speaker 1>along on your trips. That's pretty cool. Kennedy's children, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they call them, or they used to. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if they still do. Kennedy's illegitimate children. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different batch. So okay, that's Peace Corps. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to know more about it, you can type

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<v Speaker 1>in Peace Corps in the handy search bar how stuff

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>works dot com and that will bring you this fine,

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 1>fine article. Um and I said handy search bar, Right

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>you did, dude. It is time for listener mail. That's right, Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this from an Irish uh listener. And

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I think I've said before I love me some Irish

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<v Speaker 1>and Scottish people. You mean I read an Irish bar

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<v Speaker 1>the other night. Were there any Irish people there there? Yeah,

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:37.879
<v Speaker 1>there's always at least a couple. So uh, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love meet some Irish and Scottish. They're

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<v Speaker 1>great folks. I've had some good friends from that part

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, and so I'm gonna read this now. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>As a longstanding recruit to the stuff you should know Army,

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<v Speaker 1>I always expect to hear something new and interesting when

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<v Speaker 1>I listen to you guys. So I never expected to

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<v Speaker 1>be singled out and spoken to directly, breaking the tenuous

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>podcast reality barrier. But that's exactly what happened yesterday. A

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>little relevant detail to begin with. My name doesn't invite nicknames, John,

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<v Speaker 1>being too normal in Killeen awkward to manipulate into anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>The best that fourteen years of school could give me

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<v Speaker 1>was the nickname j K, which is stuck for most

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<v Speaker 1>of my life. So anyway, I was stuck in traffic

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<v Speaker 1>in Dublin the other day and the Government watch List

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<v Speaker 1>podcast was coming to an end. I was I was

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<v Speaker 1>beginning to think about how Orwellian Irish slash global society

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<v Speaker 1>really is. It started to give me that weird feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that someone who I couldn't see was watching me, or

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<v Speaker 1>that people were talking about me. Then Josh decided to

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<v Speaker 1>confirm this paranoia and said, if you want to know

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>more about the terrorists watch list and probably end up

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:46.400
<v Speaker 1>on the watch list yourself. J K. I genuinely panicked,

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that the US government was after me. Apparently my

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 1>reaction to a foreign government pursuing me is to break

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<v Speaker 1>sharply and almost cause an accident in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the city. I came back to reality and kept driving sheepishly,

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<v Speaker 1>avoiding looking in my rear view mirror and the angry

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 1>driver behind me. So thanks in kudos, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>read this out loud, I'd love to give a quick

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to Luke and Andrew, to other members of

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>the Irish Battalion and great friends. So Luke, Andrew and

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<v Speaker 1>John and Ireland Ireland, thank you for writing in. Go

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<v Speaker 1>eat some Shepherd's pie and drink a beer for me

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<v Speaker 1>and me and Josh. Yeah, thanks a lot, j K

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<v Speaker 1>H j k UM. If you want to let us

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