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Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Trista Welcome. Let's welcome everyone back to Almost Famous the Ogs.

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Speaker 2: We are coming at you live and in technicolor today.

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Speaker 3: I'm very excited.

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Speaker 1: Yes, good morning, Good.

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Speaker 3: Morning to you, Good morning to you. I'm very excited.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm excited. I think that we talked about this,

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Speaker 1: but it's been a trend lately to have some exes

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Speaker 1: of Bob's on the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's already forgotten about that. We did. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we literally have. We've just been lighting up the scoreboard

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Speaker 3: with all my exes lately. We got to start digging through.

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Speaker 2: The Bachelor annals and start bringing out some of Trista's

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Speaker 2: skeletons in the closet from the back in the day.

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Speaker 2: We recently, we recently had on my ex wife, Rebecca Budig,

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Speaker 2: and then we are not We've had on Estella Gardner

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Speaker 2: for my season. We've had on Kelly Joe Kaharski, and

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Speaker 2: now today we're going to interview Meredith Phillips. And Meredith

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Speaker 2: was the fourth runner up on my season of the

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Speaker 2: Bachelor and later went on to become the Bachelorette in

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Speaker 2: her own right, and and We've tried to set up

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Speaker 2: this set of you a couple of times now, and

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Speaker 2: we're hopeful that life is busy.

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Speaker 3: Works out today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very busy, very busy for everyone, absolutely, but yeah

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Speaker 2: not us, not us. Tea dog, tea, money, and I

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Speaker 2: are always available always. Yeah, I mean, you know, five

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Speaker 2: year old's, three year old's, sixteen year olds and fourteen

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Speaker 2: year olds?

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Speaker 1: Are those the ages of our respect very close? Fifteen

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Speaker 1: and seventeen. I'm thinking about.

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Speaker 4: That the other day.

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Speaker 1: I almost have an eighteen year old son. Like July

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Speaker 1: next year, I will have an eight like a full

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Speaker 1: fledged adult. I will have an adult. Yeah, we have

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Speaker 1: a third adult in our house.

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Speaker 3: So when is Max's birthday? July Ony twenty six?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Chris Harrison.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's right. I knew that was a special day. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you know yet another thing that you haven't in

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Speaker 2: tune with, Chris Harrison there. Yeah, I was thinking because

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Speaker 2: my son Blake is July first, so I was wondering, Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know where that birthday was? But gosh, I do

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Speaker 2: I remember, like it was yesterday when you when you

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Speaker 2: guys had Max.

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Speaker 3: Oh me too, Yeah, I remember, well, I remember it

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Speaker 3: for a myriad of reasons.

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Speaker 2: One, it's like all of a sudden, you start taking

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Speaker 2: stock of your own life and you're like, what am

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Speaker 2: I doing exactly when you have a kid. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting here flying solo at the time. I'm sure,

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Speaker 2: but you found a place.

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Speaker 3: I did. It just took me a little more time

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Speaker 3: than some that's all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, a little more time, but we made it.

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Speaker 3: You know, we're done with the fiddle around the gold

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Speaker 3: Rush era.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bob was just talking before we started the show.

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Speaker 3: But it really makes me solid and I throw in

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Speaker 3: the fiddley f yeah, because you.

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Speaker 1: Do have to throw in the arms and you know, canation.

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Speaker 1: Like Ryan just went to North Dakota and he was

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Speaker 1: saying that it is like all it's like super old school,

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Speaker 1: like a like a black and white like cowboy movie film,

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Speaker 1: you know, and all these farms and everyone's wearing cowboy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like gold Rush era.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's pretty crazy when you visit, you know,

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Speaker 2: some of those places like Montana's like that. You go

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Speaker 2: to Montana and it is just absolutely crazy, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's all like and I want to I

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Speaker 2: want to spend more time in those places myself personally.

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Speaker 2: But to know further ado or too much further ado?

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Speaker 2: What do I say too, without any further.

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Speaker 1: Ado, without any further ado.

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Speaker 3: Yes, without any further ado.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in our guest, my ex girlfriend from the

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Speaker 2: Bachelor at season four.

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Speaker 3: And also what Bachelette was she?

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Speaker 2: She was right after you, right, so we got to

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Speaker 2: bring her on. Then let's bring her on. Let's bring

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Speaker 2: on Meredith Phillips on to the Bacheorette or Therette the

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Speaker 2: almost famous anymore? Dude, No, we are not, So let's

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Speaker 2: bring her in. I'm very excited to get to talk

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Speaker 2: to her. I haven't seen her in many, many, many years.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show whenever we can bring her in.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Meredith Rye.

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Speaker 5: It's a day all day here in the Northwest, so

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Speaker 5: it's raining, and I thought that you you know, I know.

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Speaker 3: But that's that's a normal fall day in the serving Northwest.

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Speaker 3: I was in Seattle for quite a few years. I

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Speaker 3: loved it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the fall leaves and everything is so pretty.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I love fall. I am just I'm

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Speaker 1: on it on track to go visit my family back

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Speaker 1: fall leaves. If it is, how is it in Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's very fall. All the fall colors

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Speaker 3: I am. Yeah. I moved back to right before COVID. Oh.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that I did because I got to

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Speaker 3: But Meredith, welcome to the show. How's your family, how's

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Speaker 3: everyone doing well?

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Speaker 5: I lost both my parents. Oh within a two year period.

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Speaker 4: Oh, oh, my gosh, very very hard.

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Speaker 3: That's brutal, brutal.

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Speaker 4: My dad died of a heart attack in his sleep.

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Speaker 4: In his sleep. Yeah, he didn't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean obviously, I mean it's he didn't know.

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Speaker 3: That's a blessing. I contend that's a blessing, right, I guess.

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Speaker 5: My mom said to me that she laid with him

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Speaker 3: Ah, that's sweet.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 5: Uh. And then my brother and my mom didn't tell

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: I was living in La at the time.

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Speaker 5: Wow. Yeah, and then my mom had just you know,

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Speaker 5: not to put it lightly, but cancer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so cancer sucks. That's what got my

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Speaker 1: Where are you now, Meredith?

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Speaker 5: You're in I'm in the Northwest, okay, Yeah, you came

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Speaker 5: I mean, I feel for them right now right now.

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Speaker 4: I got out of it.

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Speaker 5: But it's you know, I knew it was coming, and

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Speaker 5: I work for hospitals, so it's, oh you do you're.

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Speaker 1: Not in weren't you a chef? You are a chef

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Speaker 1: chef hospitals? Oh? No, kidding, that's an Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Wow, my name on.

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Speaker 1: My shirt and everything.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been doing.

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Speaker 1: Are you like, do you actually work in the hospital

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Speaker 5: A base here in the Northwest and then I travel

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Speaker 5: to other hospitals that need me. So it's it works

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Speaker 1: Do people recognize you from the shell When I first got.

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Speaker 5: To the hospital that is my base, Yes, they googled

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Speaker 5: me because because it's a bear hospital. Yeah, the tinier ones,

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Speaker 5: they're like, we don't care. You know, they're not They're

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Speaker 4: But how about you guys, I mean, Bob I didn't

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Speaker 2: Two kids, Yeah, I got a five year old and

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Speaker 2: a three year old, both boys.

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Speaker 5: Wow wow yeah yeah, yeah they are they are.

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Speaker 3: Animals. I mean, it's a feral community over here. It's

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Speaker 3: like man, but it's fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: My wife, she we've been together actually eight years this November,

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Speaker 2: and she she's she's an amazing mom.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm uh, you know, I'm always kind

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Speaker 4: Needed yang kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: Very much, Yeah, very much. She gets it.

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Speaker 2: She gets all the heavy lifting and I get all

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Speaker 2: the light fun stuff. It seems yeah, but does seem

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Speaker 2: like a fair distribution to stuff. I love that. And

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Speaker 2: then Trista we were talking. Trista is going to have

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Speaker 2: she has a seventeen year old and a fifteen year old.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy, Trista, I do.

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Speaker 1: I was just saying that I cannot believe he's going

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Speaker 1: to be eighteen in July, Like I will have an adult. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: by definition in my house, as you know, in addition

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Speaker 5: Go like, yeah, he's got to fly away after eighteen.

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Speaker 1: I know I have so many friends going through that

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Speaker 1: right now. Have you guys heard of the term soil

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Speaker 1: the nest?

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Speaker 3: No, they have heard that term.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so before kids leave for college, supposedly there's this

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Speaker 1: like phenomenon where kids actually become like pretty rude to

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Speaker 1: to like soil the nest, so it's easier for them

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Speaker 4: I think that was the same way now that you're talking.

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Speaker 1: I was, yeah, right.

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Speaker 3: Yes I wasn't. I was like I loved my nest.

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Speaker 3: That was all about my nest.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, Well that gives me hope that he won't

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Speaker 3: I think, I think Canyon.

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Speaker 2: I think my wife soils the nest every time I

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Speaker 2: leave town for a work because she's not like, she's

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Speaker 2: not like the one that's like, you know, oh.

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Speaker 3: My god, call me, I'm gonna miss you so bad.

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Speaker 2: She's always like get out, you know, take your bag.

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Speaker 2: I'll see it Sunday. She's soiling her nest, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: I know if that applies to adult relationships.

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Speaker 6: I have a.

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Speaker 1: Feeling that maybe she feels like there are three children

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Speaker 1: in her house and so getting rid of one of them.

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Speaker 3: You stole my joke. I swear to you.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say that earlier when you were

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Speaker 2: going to go when you were like, you know, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have three adults in the house with Max, Ryan

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Speaker 2: and myself, and I was like, man, if your kid

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Speaker 3: But I understand, I understand where you're going with that.

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Speaker 5: Well, I do have to say something, Trista. If it

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Speaker 5: weren't for you actually marrying Ryan, I don't think that

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Speaker 5: this series would have gone on.

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Speaker 3: Oh I agree, I agree.

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Speaker 5: So you know, I mean I appreciate, I mean, I

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Speaker 4: Well, No, it's true, it's not sweet.

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Speaker 2: I agree with Meredith because you can only do do

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Speaker 3: You know, dating show out there.

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Speaker 2: Instead you guys, you guys found love, like real love

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Speaker 3: I think it like proved the concept enough. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Did you watch the show, Meredith before you applied or

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Speaker 5: It's interesting because I was living in LA and modeling

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Speaker 4: Oh, I have zero clue that she signed me up up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I got surprised by a friend of mine

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Speaker 5: the Bacherette or the Bachelor, And I'm like, what, like yeah,

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Speaker 4: And everything around and I'm like, okay, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: You're so funny. You're similar to Ryan. I feel like

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Speaker 4: In that scenario.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't work the same.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, No, it doesn't fifty one. You're just a baby, Meredith. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm the oldest person on this call right now. What

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Speaker 3: But Lacey Pemberton was the casting director who.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna fly you out because I can't get

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Speaker 2: And then I just sort of you know that. Of

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Speaker 2: course I did meet Trista, and you know, she fell

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Speaker 3: Wait, that's not how it went.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I love y'all's like correlation with each other.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's never going to stop, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's crazy. You know, it's funny, though, Trista, Trista,

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Speaker 3: I think, will she'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: But I remember Ryan and I were like bunk bed mates,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, weird.

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Speaker 2: And I would come back to the room man and

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Speaker 3: It was just it was one of those things.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: I was like, God, I love him, I love him

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Speaker 2: You're competitive and you're in this thing, and you don't

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Speaker 2: you want to find out if you have a love

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Speaker 3: Know, and I know it's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 5: So let me ask you this, Why Bob was I

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Speaker 4: I know in my mind, why, Well, there's a few

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Speaker 2: I think part of me was, uh, you know, you're

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Speaker 2: you're so like in those moments, you're so kind of

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Speaker 2: after having done the show, it's such a different experience

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Speaker 2: I mean I think that's what really kind of galvanized

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you remember. I'm sorry to even say that,

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Speaker 3: Kind of rocked my world a little bit. I won't lie.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I need to go home.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, well in our date that date was actually

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Speaker 2: She's like, no, I really want to be here, and

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Speaker 2: if I'm I never want the facts to get in

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Speaker 2: to Seal Beat, we get on. We get on the

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Speaker 2: horseback right, and we're trotting down the beach. We're galloping

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Speaker 2: here's the story that I remember in my head. I

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Speaker 2: But I can tell she's got like a her eyes

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Speaker 3: She's like, I'm like okay, and she's like, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I might be mildly allergic to horses. This is this

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Speaker 3: Out of sand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I made us the sand castle, which I

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Speaker 2: And Meredith goes, I am like deathly allergic shellfish. I am,

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Well, all I remember is like yelling at the producers

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Speaker 3: I'm like, guys, she's allergic shellfisch.

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Speaker 5: What I remember is the horse ride and then us

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Speaker 3: Are you allergic to shellfish?

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Speaker 4: No, okay, do you like shelfish?

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Speaker 3: Tristes allergic to shellfish?

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Speaker 1: I'm allergic to the shellfish. I hate shellfish. I don't

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Speaker 3: You like seafood, not even well you never had Meredith.

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Speaker 3: Meredith's job.

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Speaker 1: She can make something, it's the texture. She can't change

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Speaker 5: Well, if it's cooked correctly, it's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Like the chewiness. I just and the

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Speaker 2: What about like a light flaky Chilian sea bass that

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Speaker 1: Little bit like salmon or I know I've had sea bass. Whatever,

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Speaker 1: We'll have a little bit of it, catfish. I've tried to.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's I don't know it every day.

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Speaker 1: But so you remember a totally different story, Meredith than

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Speaker 3: And that's still horses, horses and sand castles are accurate.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do remember candles in there. Oh I remember

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Speaker 5: Jase Garbone was there.

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Speaker 3: Was Jason on your season two?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, yes, yes, sir. So I remember just feeling

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Speaker 4: But it is a scene.

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Speaker 5: Well, you and my grandmother just died, and the way

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Speaker 5: But you know, it wasn't fair to you, and it

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like, because I feel like lately on

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: None of us can avoid death, right, And so do

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Speaker 1: you when you look back at that, do you feel

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Speaker 5: And you know I spoke with my mom and my

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Speaker 5: brother was on the same line and they're like, you're there.

442
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 4: Just do what you need you know what you need to.

443
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 5: Do, and yeah, I said, you know, I want to

444
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 5: come home and like it's not it's not for you

445
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 5: to come home, and we'll deal with this when you

446
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 5: do come home. And that is how I process that,

447
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 5: and yeah, of course you know it's yeah, and that's

448
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 5: not wrong young that It was like, yeah, okay, when

449
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 5: I'm told to do something, yeah I'll stay and yeah,

450
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 5: it actually helped me out to not forget, but just

451
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 5: for a little bit.

452
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, Yeah, I will say it was. It was.

453
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 2: Uh, it was hard for me on my end, not

454
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 2: nearly as hard as it was for you, but liked

455
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: tell you, they told me when and that's why. I

456
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: don't know if you remember this part either, but I

457
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: asked if we could talk for a little bit before

458
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 2: we went on this date, and you came out to

459
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: the limo.

460
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: We had a big g limo thing.

461
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I remember, if you want

462
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: to go home, I think that's totally okay because I

463
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: think I would go home right now.

464
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 5: Well, I remember because the cameras weren't on and they

465
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 5: were pissed.

466
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 4: Off about that because we actually talked, right.

467
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had my makeup bag in there, and so

468
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 5: they were mad that we actually had a conversation without

469
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 5: them filming.

470
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I didn't want Like I was like, I

471
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: felt like it was just such a violation, you know.

472
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: I was like, she needs a minute and not with me, guys,

473
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 2: like she hardly even knows me, Like this is not

474
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,239
Speaker 2: fair to her. And then yeah, and then they were

475
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: you were like, you know, oh, man, I was so

476
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 2: annoyed by that. And then when they asked, you know,

477
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: and then I I wanted you to be able to

478
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 2: see your family too, and they were like, you know, well,

479
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: because I said, I go, I go, what happens if?

480
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: Because I was like trying to weigh out what to do.

481
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: Quite honestly, I was like, like, what happens if, Like

482
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: does she get to go home and see her family

483
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: if I don't give her a rose? And they're like, nope,

484
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: she'll be on she'll be sequestered, And I'm like, and

485
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: if I give her a.

486
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 3: Rose, does she get to see her family?

487
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: Like yeah, now, I was going to give you a

488
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 2: rose anyway, quite honestly, but but I was also at

489
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: that point where I was kind of like, because I

490
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: won't give her a flower, if she gets to go home,

491
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 2: cinner like, because I wanted you to do to get to

492
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: go home, you know. And and then I got to

493
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: meet your family and it was a sense at a

494
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: time for everyone, of course, and that was tough. And

495
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: I really, you know, I really love I remember your brother,

496
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 2: and I remember your mom and dad being such lovely people,

497
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 2: and you know, I remember being in your house in Portland.

498
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: And but there again, the thing I remembered, you know,

499
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: the most, was our first stop on that date was

500
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: to the cemetery, and I.

501
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 3: Remember thinking, this is just not right.

502
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: She should be here with her family, not with me,

503
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 2: like I remember I was, so I was struggling, man,

504
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 2: I was struggling with the whole thing.

505
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I was too.

506
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 5: And you know when the producers ask you, you know,

507
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 5: what do you want to do? What do you want

508
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 5: to do? And you know, I haven't seen my family

509
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 5: for so long.

510
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 4: Yeah that's maybe what I want to do.

511
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 5: And it was probably incorrect, but you know, at least

512
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 5: I had people around me and helping me out.

513
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember.

514
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: I remember it well.

515
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: I remember thinking to myself, like, gosh, she should be here,

516
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: not with me in a camera crew like it should

517
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: be in her family, you know.

518
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was tough. That was tough because I didn't know.

519
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: I didn't know the right thing to say, you know,

520
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: And normally I'm pretty good in those moments that you know,

521
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: but in that one, I was just like, I don't

522
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 2: even really know what to say.

523
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 5: Probably should have said something funny, which.

524
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: I think I did.

525
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, like or at least part or something.

526
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, that's just what that just doesn't happen.

527
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm capable of that.

528
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I'm sure you're not. No, let's get

529
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: Jass on the phone.

530
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, she'll be like, oh my god, don't get

531
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: my kids on the phone. They're the ones they'll tell

532
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: the truth.

533
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So as a bachelor, then you get

534
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: asked to be bachelorette and what were your initial thoughts

535
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: on that and did you need a lot of convincing.

536
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 4: Well, this is.

537
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 5: Kind of a long but short story. Kelly Joe was

538
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 5: actually originally to be the bachelor.

539
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: We talked to her about that, did you Yeah, And

540
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: then she I.

541
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 4: Was living in LA and she met somebody and she

542
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 4: was like, no, I mean I'm not going to do it. Yeah,

543
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 4: I guess that was the second choice. So you know,

544
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 4: I mean it made I mean, Kelly Joe is awesome.

545
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,479
Speaker 5: I mean I yeah, I mean she's awesome, a bundle

546
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 5: of energy and yeah, you know she's an entrepreneur and

547
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 5: leverage of that. But I remember being on the phone

548
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 5: with her in LA when it happened with her mom.

549
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 5: Her mom's awesome too, Yeah, And I said, are you

550
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 5: sure that you don't want to take this? Yeah, I

551
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 5: and the jobs, so to speak, and she's like, no's

552
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 5: like you take it. And then I asked my family

553
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 5: and they're like why not, you know, And I almost

554
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 5: said no, because I'd rather just remain you know, a

555
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 5: model and you know, work for hospitals.

556
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, uh do.

557
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: You because obviously you didn't end up with Ian. No,

558
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: that's another no, I know, But do you do you

559
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: look back on that and have any regrets?

560
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 4: I do have some regrets.

561
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 5: You know.

562
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 4: When Ian came out of that limo of the last one,

563
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 4: I mean, that was on purpose. Let's be honest. That

564
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 4: was on purpose because you know, they say I fixed

565
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: this tie, but I just knew right then. So it

566
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: was like, oh, great, I have.

567
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 5: Two and a half and like maybe a month and

568
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 5: a half because I guess my show was.

569
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 4: Like the fastest that they shot, so I didn't really

570
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 4: have have a lot of time.

571
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 5: To consider anyone else, Like, I don't know how long.

572
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 4: Did you guys?

573
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: That was?

574
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: How long you shat?

575
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

576
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's just what it was back then.

577
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: But that's what it was back then.

578
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: Now it's like, you know, that's why I think now

579
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: the casting is so different, because if you don't have

580
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: three months to go to the Netherlands or Thailand, you're

581
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: not that right.

582
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 5: I mean, okay, first of all, let's talk about that.

583
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 5: We don't have to talk about the money wise and

584
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 5: what we got paid, because obviously that's not okay, but

585
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 5: I didn't, so there you go.

586
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

587
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 5: So, but it's just it's transpired into something that I

588
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 5: don't really want to watch it anymore.

589
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: Oh you'll watch it at all.

590
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't have TV.

591
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, I would not survive without television. Let me

592
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: put that on record.

593
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: Considering the fact that I was on the phone with

594
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: my U, my internet provider and able provider right before

595
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: this call going my TV's not working.

596
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: Right, Honestly, I was just watching Max play hockey on

597
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: my television because we have happy YouTube app or whatever

598
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: on there and I get, you know, put it up

599
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: on my on my screen and watch him kind of.

600
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 6: Like he's right there skating in my living room.

601
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, how's Ryan.

602
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: He's good. He's he's feeling good and he's happy to

603
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,239
Speaker 1: not be commuting two hours to work, which was what

604
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: he was doing. We just moved to dinner. Yeah, so

605
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: he's good.

606
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 4: He's good.

607
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: So going back, I feel like we got we got

608
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: highjuction for some reason. I don't know. But do you

609
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: have any regrets about the show and Bachelorette or Bachelor

610
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: or life after?

611
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 5: I do have some regrets from the Bachelorette, meaning that

612
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 5: I was kind of told what to do and instead

613
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 5: of me doing what I really wanted to do, got

614
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 5: it and you know, being you know, picking out like

615
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 5: the rings and all that and lied to about how much.

616
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: They cost and what do you mean what do you

617
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: mean they lied to you about how much they cost?

618
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I was, I picked out three rings.

619
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: So you okay, you picked out three rings? Because I

620
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: don't know if I.

621
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 4: Did you get that?

622
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: If I picked that rings? Did I went to her instant?

623
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 5: Yeah?

624
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah I did.

625
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 4: I got a choice.

626
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: I was gonna say. I thought they would make the

627
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 3: girls like choose.

628
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: They liked and then the guys basically was to choose

629
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: from exactly yeah.

630
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

631
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 5: So I mean I picked out the one that I liked.

632
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: I I regret.

633
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 5: I know, I don't really want to say this, I guess,

634
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 5: but I'm going to One of the producers said, if

635
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 5: you don't give her this ring.

636
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 4: Just do it for me. That's all I'm going to

637
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 4: say about that.

638
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: What meaning like, if you don't want to propose, just

639
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 3: do it anyway type of thing.

640
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: Oh, Like, basically you're saying like they were give her

641
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: the ring purpose? Yeah yeah, is that what he told

642
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: you afterwards.

643
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 4: The producer did? Yeah?

644
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh the producer actually told you that he said that, Yeah, yeah, So.

645
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: That was kind of disappointing.

646
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: I mean it was kind of like a want like,

647
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: so you so you're engaged at this point and you

648
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: hear from the producer that he told Ian to propose

649
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: or else. Essentially, I'm sure if that was me, I

650
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: would be like, wait, what, I had no idea, like

651
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: if they.

652
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 5: Gave him a bunch of alcohol, probably, I mean the

653
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 5: producer or Ian, they gave Ian a bunch of alcohol

654
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 5: because he didn't see okay, I mean he didn't seem

655
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 5: right to me.

656
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 4: I mean I had nothing to drink.

657
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 5: So I'm just waiting there, you know, who's going to

658
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 5: come through, And I'm waiting for him, and he's drunk

659
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 5: as a skunk and he gets down on one knee.

660
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 5: Well actually, if you remember, he actually stood instead of

661
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 5: got down on one knee.

662
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 4: Okay, proposed and the producer was like.

663
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's like, I mean he's Brazilian.

664
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 4: I don't know, I.

665
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 3: Mean coaching romance, right.

666
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: Have you had any contact with him after your breakup?

667
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 5: I think he's back in Brazil, but no, no, they haven't.

668
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 5: I don't think for some reason, he doesn't want any

669
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 5: correlation with the show. Yeah, so some people are like

670
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 5: that after their experience on the show.

671
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: I mean Alex Rochelle's like that, right, I mean, the

672
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: original Bachelor, He's he's never wanted.

673
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 3: Anything to do with it. Yeah, Charlie Charlie Maher, who

674
00:35:58,920 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: was from Trista's season.

675
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he and I became really good buddies. Share

676
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: a birthday like every year, like it's up five eight,

677
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 2: you know, cause it's May eight. But yeah, he has,

678
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: he has no connection to it all. Well he did

679
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 2: for a little while after, remember he went to work.

680
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: For it, did Yeah, he did. And some people are

681
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: like that, they just want to return back to normal life.

682
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: Totally understand that, Like it's all it's all good. I mean,

683
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of a different beast these days with Bachelor Nation,

684
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: and you know, just how if you're on the show,

685
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: you were affiliated and it's kind of hard to break away.

686
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: But I totally understand that.

687
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

688
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 5: I never had, I mean a bad experience, but it

689
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 5: was still new.

690
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: I mean we all went through I mean the newness

691
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: of it, you know. Yeah.

692
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: I think I think the producers were learning as much

693
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: about it at that time as we were, you know

694
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: what I mean, because I mean I talk to him

695
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: now like I still, you know, randomly keep in touch

696
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: with Carbone every now and then, Sally Michael Charles. Yeah, Yeah,

697
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: their experiences were so new then too, they were, and

698
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: I mean I don't think they always feel so good

699
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: about Stuffy they had to do as producers sometimes when

700
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: it would really it was fun, fascinating.

701
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had fun then I think it got dark

702
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 3: years later.

703
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, but I will say they do still have fun.

704
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: So I've been on a couple of the recent shows,

705
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: and I love the producers now too. I mean, obviously

706
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: I have very strong bond with the producers back in

707
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: our day, but but they do still have so much fun.

708
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: I just love that. I love the energy of the

709
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: people behind the scenes, all the all the crew, you know,

710
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: the producers, the director Ken Fuchs and you know for

711
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: the live shows and stuff. But I do still love

712
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: the energy, So I will say that they do still.

713
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 5: I mean, nothing was I mean everything was as it

714
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 5: is reality when it was TV. So I don't know,

715
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 5: if you know the Bachelor or about for rut now

716
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 5: a day, if it's are you supposed to say.

717
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: Something that you're not or you know, I think you

718
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: just like honestly, I feel like they probably prompt people still.

719
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 1: I know they do, you know, because they have interview

720
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: questions and stuff that they ask you in your itms,

721
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: and but they do. I I think I still believe,

722
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: because I've been on set for the last few shows,

723
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: that there are like dates where they take you and

724
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: then it's like they're just there as like a fly

725
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: on the wall. And I I there are people who

726
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: still believe that it's scripted, and I still will defend

727
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: the fact that it's not.

728
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: It's yeah, yeah, it wasn't for us. I mean it

729
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: wasn't on mine Inmeredith's season, so it wasn't from Tristan

730
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: my season either. So yeah, I can say, you know,

731
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: from having gone from the bachelright to the Bachelor, that

732
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: I was never told what to say or you know,

733
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 2: I was told, but I was I was told about

734
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: situations right, Like I was told on the first night.

735
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: These three girls are kind of mad at this girl.

736
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: Here's what we're thinking you did.

737
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: I don't think they get involved.

738
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 3: I asked for her.

739
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, if you want me

740
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: to go up there and grab somebody, I need to

741
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: know why, Like what are you.

742
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: Guys doing amazing?

743
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: I mean, so they said they'd be like, well, these

744
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: three girls seem to not like this girl, so we

745
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: want you to come up and ask this girl for

746
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: a moment ago you know, like the moment might have

747
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: been not scripted, but the moment might have been arranged

748
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: to a certain degree.

749
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 3: But I understood why. I got well, but.

750
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 5: You know, you know, I mean, you're asked to do

751
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 5: you know, the bio, all the paperwork, right, before you're

752
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 5: accepted to be this person in reality TV. Do you

753
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 5: remember filling all that stuff out and doing, yeah, the

754
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 5: psychologue work and all that.

755
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 4: So it's a play like Okay.

756
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 5: Well we're going to have her too. She's not gonna

757
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 5: like that one, but this one's probably going to get

758
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 5: together with this one, and then you know, I mean

759
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 5: it is an orchestra.

760
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you have to know the people who

761
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: are coming on the show. I think the psychological testing

762
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: and all of that is really important because it is important. Yeah,

763
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: you need to know. And honestly, I loved doing it

764
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I want to I want to know

765
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: about myself, Like I don't need the results. Yeah, I like.

766
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 5: Doing it too exactly, you know, Yeah it was fun

767
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 5: for me.

768
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

769
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: I would love for you to just tell everyone how

770
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: life is now, Like are you are you happy that

771
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: you were on the show, and like, what were the

772
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: good good parts of being on the show and what

773
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: you've taken away to this stuff.

774
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 5: I am definitely happy that I was on the show

775
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 5: for that many years and that I chose to actually

776
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 5: accept and be on it and be a part of

777
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 5: this family.

778
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: I don't I don't have any negativity towards d series

779
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 4: at all good? Not at all good.

780
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I mean that's good. I think it's.

781
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 5: You know, my experience, your experience. I can't say for others,

782
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 5: but it was really really good and it was learning experience,

783
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 5: I think for all of us because early. And yeah,

784
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 5: as far as my.

785
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 4: Job wise, it's great. I love working for hospitals.

786
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 5: I love what I do, and I actually would just

787
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 5: like to meet somebody.

788
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: Finally, Yeah, I was just that was my next question.

789
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 1: So you're still single?

790
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

791
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, which are you actively dating? Like, are you on

792
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: apps or anything like that. I'm not on apps.

793
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 5: I'm constantly working, but I would like to meet somebody

794
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 5: that's free.

795
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I just well, hey, anyone listening out

796
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: there who has somebody in the Northwest who is around

797
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: their fifties. And I was going to say, give Meredith

798
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: a DM, but you're not on Instagram or any social

799
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: are you.

800
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 4: I do have Instagram?

801
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: And I, oh, you do have Instagram. Okay, well I've

802
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: learned something new today, So yeah, give give Meredith a DM.

803
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: We're going to set you up on the show. I'm

804
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: going to play match maker.

805
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 5: Okay, interest, it's your job.

806
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: Now to find me a suitor.

807
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I'm going to play matchmaker. Well you know. Okay,

808
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: So this podcast is basically we are kind of little

809
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: side group sidekicks or what do you call it when

810
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: there's a show that takes a different path, like has

811
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: a different cast? Uh what do you call it? X? Yeah,

812
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: spin off that's the word, thank you, Maddie. So it's

813
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: like a spin off. So Ashley and Ben have this podcast,

814
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: the almost Famous Podcast, and we came on Bob and

815
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: I to talk to the ogs. So yeah, I'm I

816
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: were part of this bigger, almost famous podcast world, and

817
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: we are super grateful. So if I if I don't

818
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: hear from people, it's not because people are not reaching out.

819
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: It's because I just don't. It's somebody else's podcast, do

820
00:43:55,120 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But yeah, no, oh I

821
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: love it. What is your Instagram handle? Let's put it

822
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: up here just in case.

823
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 4: Look, Oh she.

824
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Speaker 3: Doesn't know it.

825
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 5: No, I don't know it.

826
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Speaker 1: I'm always at work, so so you're on it a lot.

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Speaker 1: I take chef chef Merety jeff ah see, there we go.

828
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Speaker 4: Chef Chef Merety. That's my real name, not I changed

829
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 4: it to Meredith. But that's my real name.

830
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: Wait what tell me?

831
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: Wait, your real name is Meredy Meredy Yeah, m E

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Speaker 1: R E d y m hm. Oh my gosh, I

833
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: never knew that.

834
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people don't.

835
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: That's so crazy. So you changed it right before the show?

836
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 5: No, I changed it when I was sixteen because I

837
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 5: thought it sounded more official, you know, Meredith.

838
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 4: Sounds a little bit more like adult to tour.

839
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you call yourself Meredina?

840
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,479
Speaker 4: No, Meredith, okay, chef.

841
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: I was like, did you go back to it?

842
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 5: I might at some point.

843
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 4: I don't know.

844
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, whatever, lot it.

845
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 5: My friends here in the Northwest they just called me

846
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 5: Merity oor Mayor and yeah, of course of course.

847
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I love that. I actually might. I'm gonna

848
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: call you Maridina. I've changing your.

849
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 5: Contact information, Meredith.

850
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: I love it.

851
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 6: Well.

852
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: It was so great to catch up again reconnect. Thank

853
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: you so much for taking the time to chat with

854
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: Bobby and I. I know, guys, goodbye. I'm sorry he

855
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: got disconnected, but now that's what.

856
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 4: You so much. It was nice to catch up. Hopefully

857
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 4: we can do it again, of course.

858
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: Amazing, Thanks Meredith, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: M