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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a great big hello again everyone, too Big

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Speaker 1: Blue kickoff live here on giants dot Com. The number,

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Speaker 1: as always is two oh one nine four or five

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion Jeff Eagles. And how are you doing? Jeff?

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Speaker 1: And you people out there? And you know what, five

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Speaker 1: five and eight feels pretty darn good. It really does. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: four out of five. Look, everybody laughed. I mean I

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Speaker 1: was there when O'Dell said, yeah, well, I'll never forget

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Speaker 1: it people that he was asked a simple question. He

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Speaker 1: did say it in a braggadocia way. He wasn't like

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Speaker 1: a guarantee. He said, what you what do you look

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Speaker 1: at the accomplished second half when all eight games? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what, ha ha chuckle, chuckle. What is he nuts?

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Speaker 1: They've won four out of five? Really could have, would have,

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Speaker 1: should have. It's not very easily been five out of

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Speaker 1: five and all of a sudden, you know, in this

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Speaker 1: crazy cuckoo season, people are still uh wishful thinking, needing,

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Speaker 1: they could do something to me Jeff. Bottom line is this,

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Speaker 1: let him we were talking about it over lunch. Let

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Speaker 1: them just go out and continue to win games, and

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Speaker 1: whatever happens happens. But listen, if if they can go

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Speaker 1: to eight and eight, I mean, for crown out loud,

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Speaker 1: even if they were seven and nine after the one

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Speaker 1: as a player, you just come in every week and

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Speaker 1: make going going forward. Um, you know, there's this is

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Speaker 1: a tale of two two halves of the season. And

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Speaker 1: I think that you know, the coaches like to look

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Speaker 1: at it as quarters. I've said this before. Um, in

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Speaker 1: that third quarter they were three and one, okay, and

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Speaker 1: divide those up by four, and it's where you get

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Speaker 1: your sixteen games. And I think you make a good point,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's it's relatively speaking, is that if

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Speaker 1: second half of the season. And and I said it earlier,

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Speaker 1: UM last week, and and one of the one of

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Speaker 1: the things on the pregame show that I had mentioned

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Speaker 1: before this game it even happened not knowing that it

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Speaker 1: was going to be a blowout. Like this is the

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Speaker 1: fact that this team now believes RUSS that they can

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. And I think it shows

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Speaker 1: you that in the Bears game, they were able to

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Speaker 1: win a game in overtime, um, and now they're able

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Speaker 1: to win a division game on the road, UM, A big,

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Speaker 1: big way, a big time. Now, let's not let's not

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Speaker 1: code anything here that the Redskins were not They're not

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Speaker 1: very good, but let's let's you know what, you're right,

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Speaker 1: but and the butt is this. Listen, we know what

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Speaker 1: like the red Skins this is decent, yes, And yeah,

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Speaker 1: And they've done it. Now they've got to go on

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Speaker 1: and and we kind of went over some of the

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Speaker 1: to win three games. Yeah, they get Folks, if you

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Speaker 1: of people, you know, to us is that the Giants

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Speaker 1: eliminated from the division. They can't win the division, which

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Speaker 1: You know, going into this game, I think that we

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Speaker 1: they stuck together. Well, they really did. This is a

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Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman on purpose went out and got some guys

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Speaker 1: people say, you know, the Giants were built to win

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Speaker 1: But uh, you know he Sequan is kind of not

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Speaker 1: are you gonna call the BB? Can't we need to

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Speaker 1: hear you? Um? But before I go into that, shoutouts

427
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Speaker 1: to the shakedown show. Um, I don't know if y'all listen.

428
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Speaker 1: Y'all should If you haven't listened before, I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: you on RUSS and and and Jeff. If you haven't

430
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Speaker 1: listened before, I check us out on blog talk radio.

431
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Speaker 1: Backslash does shakedown as d a shakedown. Okay, you know

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Speaker 1: in the meantime shakes, what do you got shaken? Right now?

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Speaker 1: Got you? Got you? So I'm getting to this right

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Speaker 1: So now here's the thing. I had to get that

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Speaker 1: off and shout outs to all my crew. But um,

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Speaker 1: let me let me break this down because I haven't

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Speaker 1: caught all c so long. Okay, Now, the one in

438
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Speaker 1: seven starts was so nauseating. Okay, it was horrible. I

439
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Speaker 1: could not even go to my job without people saying

440
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Speaker 1: something to me and and and laughing and all types

441
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: of stuff. Okay, and I had I went through it all,

442
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 1: and I told I told everybody at the bye and

443
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Speaker 1: a lot of people thought that I was delirious. People

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Speaker 1: thought that I was just uh a real strong fan.

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Speaker 1: People thought that man, maybe I didn't smoke some bad stuff. Okay, everybody.

446
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Speaker 1: At one in seven, I said, you know, we are

447
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Speaker 1: not out of this. We are not out. We still

448
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Speaker 1: have a chance, and this second half of the season

449
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: could be had. Okay, all right, and we won and

450
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Speaker 1: we pulled off for the last time, and we should

451
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Speaker 1: have beat the Eagles if we would stopped the running.

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Speaker 1: That's another thing. I don't like that we traded snacks

453
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Speaker 1: because ever since people are just running up on us.

454
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Speaker 1: But we couldn't stop to run in the second half

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Speaker 1: against the Eagles, and we did not give the ball

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Speaker 1: to Balky. Also, what five times in that second half

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Speaker 1: we did? We give it to him more? We we

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Speaker 1: at five and no at this um after the bottom, right, Okay.

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Speaker 1: The thing about this is, and this is what I've

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Speaker 1: been trying to say all season long, because people were

461
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Speaker 1: sitting there saying, oh, Eli sucks, Eli needs to go. Eli,

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Speaker 1: don't have it. No more blas and I did not

463
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Speaker 1: see that. I've seen that this quarterback had no time

464
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Speaker 1: back there to even breathe. He couldn't even take an

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Speaker 1: ExHAM and as he sacked. Okay, or somebody's in his face.

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Speaker 1: All right, shakes, Listen to my friend, and as always,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the call. We we've been talking about this,

468
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Speaker 1: you know, at nauseam quite frankly, but all of us, myself,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Dots, every everybody, uh John Schm, I mean, lad,

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Speaker 1: David Deal, I mean they they everybody was writing them off.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know it's funny I'm reading stuff today.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, now the Giants have decided it's you know,

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Speaker 1: Eli can be the quarterback because with the running of

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Speaker 1: Sa Kwan it opens up passing lanes. Hello, no kidding,

475
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Speaker 1: It's all connected, just like the offensive lines connected. Everything

476
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Speaker 1: is connected. Okay. This is not like reinventing the wheel.

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Speaker 1: It's not like splitting atoms. It's common sense. Thank god,

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Speaker 1: we're not doing that. Yeah, let's go to New Mexico

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Speaker 1: check in with Scott. Scott. Scott, Hi, guys, how you

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Speaker 1: doing to How you doing? Scott? I haven't agree with

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Speaker 1: both you, Russ and Jeff that this team has had

482
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Speaker 1: a complete a metamorphosis from the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 1: And one thing that's I don't know if it's overlooked,

484
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Speaker 1: but sort of underestimated, is the value of the downfield

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Speaker 1: blocking by the receivers. Don't think they get a lot

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Speaker 1: of credit because Stirling Shepherd has done a remarkable shut

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Speaker 1: up you know what, Scott, he doesn't. A lot was

488
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Speaker 1: made about his block this this past week, Kuan, But

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Speaker 1: let me tell you something that little guy. When I

490
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Speaker 1: say little guy, you know, in terms of wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: he is, you know, on a small side. He gets

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Speaker 1: his nose into blocking all the time. He's a very

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Speaker 1: very very good block and not not sometimes all the time.

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Speaker 1: And let all let you get back to your point.

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Speaker 1: I just want to tell you something about the receivers

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Speaker 1: and they're blocking. Um. A lot of that come from

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Speaker 1: their coach, tyk Toberd, who was in Denver. If you

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Speaker 1: looked at the Denver receivers over the past few years,

499
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Speaker 1: they have been outstanding blockers and he brought that philosophy

500
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Speaker 1: with them with him from from the Broncos to here.

501
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: Cody Lattimer was a guy that that came with him

502
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Speaker 1: earlier in the season and went into I R he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: He's an outstanding down field blocker. He's the one that

504
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Speaker 1: really taught some of these guys how to do it.

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Speaker 1: And so now the Russell Shepherd and stuff, and and

506
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: it's Sterling Shepherd and even Odell. Let's give but it

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Speaker 1: does make a big difference in the running game and

508
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Speaker 1: even in the passing game to win some of these

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Speaker 1: guys other than the receivers get the ball one. So

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Speaker 1: Kuon Barkley or at Evan Ingram and your guys are

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Speaker 1: blocking downfield as long as they do it legally, they

512
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Speaker 1: got a good chance. Yeah, and they've done it as

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Speaker 1: a unit, which is even more impressive. A lot of

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Speaker 1: the runs that Squan's had you until that the blocking

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Speaker 1: downfield is just really outstanding. But I have a question

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Speaker 1: about what the Giants can make the playoffs and not

517
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Speaker 1: to me this year. I loved them to do it,

518
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Speaker 1: but it's sort of immaterial because I always looked towards

519
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Speaker 1: next year and the approvements to be made. But there

520
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Speaker 1: are a couple of players on defense I wanted to

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Speaker 1: ask you about, and they're playing well, but they're they

522
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Speaker 1: have large salary hits next year one of them is

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Speaker 1: Generous Jenkins in another or as Olivier Vernon and they're

524
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Speaker 1: both coming on now, but they're going to be I know,

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Speaker 1: Jonas Jenkins is a thirteen million next year. And no

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Speaker 1: one really knows what Dave Gentleman and Petron we have

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Speaker 1: in mind for anyone. But I was just curious based

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Speaker 1: on their play and recently, you know, in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of games, if you were the coach, would you

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Speaker 1: bring these guys back or do you think it's it's

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Speaker 1: going to become a financial issue of some sort. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'll go with the ladder of the two. I think

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Speaker 1: that that's what's gonna happen. It's gonna come down to financials.

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Speaker 1: Giants are gonna have a lot of money under the

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Speaker 1: cap next year, so um, you know, and you talk

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Speaker 1: about Eli Manning making twenty two million under the cap

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Speaker 1: next year, and you can go there and what is

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Speaker 1: he gonna you know, do you have to find another

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Speaker 1: quarterback because it's gonna be too as message, giants are

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Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of money. So I think that

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Speaker 1: one of those two guys, um could could stick around

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Speaker 1: because still keep the salary. But you know, it just

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Speaker 1: depends financially, what's gonna happen with the team and we're

544
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: there and their needs coming out of the season. There's

545
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Speaker 1: still three weeks left. I think, what Jeff just hit

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Speaker 1: the nail on ahead there. There still is three games

547
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Speaker 1: remaining to be played, and that the evaluation process continues.

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Speaker 1: You know, Dave Gentleman went into the second half of

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00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: the season looking at these eight games. This is a

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Speaker 1: real evaluation process. I think that I think the big

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00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: the big question financially next year, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people will speculated and most likely will happen is with

553
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Speaker 1: landing Collins. Is the franchise tag or the transition tag?

554
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Speaker 1: One of those two? Um, did you still have lingering

555
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: out there? Now? You're not going to use it on

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Speaker 1: any one of the two guys you just mentioned. Um,

557
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: but you as in general manager have to. Dave Gentleman

558
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: wants production like any team does. And if you're not

559
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: getting it and you're making the money, um, you know,

560
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: things happen. That's well, that's just the players on the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. Tomarm Brown is going to be unrestricted and

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Speaker 1: I assume he's going to command quite a bit of money.

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Speaker 1: And it's it's it's obvious to everyone what he's been

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Speaker 1: able to do on the offensive line. Supporters are anchoring

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Speaker 1: it and making it more a cohesive unit, you know,

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Speaker 1: just by himself alone, even though he hasn't played you

567
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Speaker 1: know what I would say with the you know, perfect football,

568
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Speaker 1: but he's certainly made a big difference. And if you

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Speaker 1: were general manager of team and you have a player

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Speaker 1: who liked that, and obviously he's going to command some

571
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Speaker 1: some money, is he the kind of player you resigned

572
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Speaker 1: for next year or do you go out in the

573
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Speaker 1: draft and you look for somebody. I think I think

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Speaker 1: that's a good question. And my answer to that is both, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that you know what do you want to

576
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Speaker 1: You don't want to take a step backwards, and now

577
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you've got to retool that offensive

578
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: line again when you've had some some success if you will,

579
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Speaker 1: with how the team has been playing going forward since

580
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: Dubai and and and since Jamal Brown has been here.

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Speaker 1: I think Spencer Polly is another guy that's interesting. He

582
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: started to play better. One guy that and I think

583
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Speaker 1: you're gonna agree with me, Scott, is that Nate Solder

584
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Speaker 1: did not have a very good first half of the season. Um,

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Speaker 1: And I think that, And that's a couple of couple

586
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: of reasons. I feel like where he came from and

587
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: who Tom Brady is and who Eli Manning is. There

588
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: two different quarterbacks obviously, but they play differently. Eli Manning

589
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: and and Tom Brady have different dropbacks. Okay, So I

590
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: think it took him a little while to get used

591
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: to Tom, to get used to Eli Manning and how

592
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: he plays, but he has turned it around. So to

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Speaker 1: answer your question is and I think they definitely need

594
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Speaker 1: and I haven't we haven't got into the draft yet,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know how many guards and tackles that

596
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: there are in the draft this year. Um, But I

597
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: think it needs to be addressed. And I also think

598
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: that jim On Brown needs to come back because you

599
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: don't want to you don't want to disrupt that cohesence

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Speaker 1: that you put together this last eight game to the season.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Scott. You're welcome, Thank you, Scott. Yeah,

602
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: I think you know, it's no coincidence. Everything started to

603
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: play better with the offensive line when he joined the team.

604
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: And he made a good point. He's a he's a

605
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: restricted free agent, so that means he's you know, he's

606
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Speaker 1: gonna have to the Giants will will be able to

607
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: to get a chance to sign him. So to oh,

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Speaker 1: one nine four or five one three is the number?

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Speaker 1: Let's stick here in Jersey? Is it? Uh? Is it?

610
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:13,239
Speaker 1: Dell buddy? You're on with Russ and Jeff? What's going on? Uh?

611
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: Think the Giants number one the love Draft, Joyce. I'm

612
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: glad we took say Kwan and three quarterbacks. I would

613
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: like to ask you about West Virginia's will career. Uh,

614
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: the one from Ohio State who just almost won the Heisman,

615
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: and the quarterback from Oregon? Which one would you think

616
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: of fit the Giants because they say they're not worthy

617
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: of of you know, the first top ten pick. So

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Speaker 1: I think we got still got to take a quarterback. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think if you want to, if you want a

620
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: quarterback that's gonna fit the system that's in place right now,

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Speaker 1: it's the guy from Oregon and Herbert he's uh, he's

622
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: got a strong arm, he's tall, he's a pocket asked

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Speaker 1: her he can run a little bit um. The guy

624
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Speaker 1: from Ohio State not, you know, he's not a he's

625
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: not a tall guy, but he's he's a mobile. He's

626
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: very mobile Um and then Greer. You know, I didn't

627
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 1: see much about him, just read a little bit here

628
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: and there. But in my choice, I'm going for the

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Speaker 1: guy from from Oregon. I would do the same thing

630
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: but Predell, but I don't know if he's coming out. No,

631
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Speaker 1: And you gotta remember this, it's not what pre Dell

632
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: likes or what Russ likes or what Jeff likes. It's

633
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: what Gettleman and Sherman like. And you know, they gotta

634
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: like somebody. They have no really like somebody. And if

635
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: you don't really like somebody, in particular at the quarterback

636
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: position in the first round, if you don't really like somebody,

637
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna pick him, you know. Now, I don't

638
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: know what the answer is. You know, maybe they'll go Um,

639
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: which is a distinct possibility, you know, in in the transition,

640
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: you know, because he number ten is gonna be the

641
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: starting center, be all in the signals behind center next year.

642
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: So who Yes, I agree with that because I think

643
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: they did good and I think it's gonna uh tap down.

644
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: We all to talk about let's see what the backup do?

645
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: We found that out? So no no news even talk. Well, listen,

646
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: in fairness, and I don't think it's it's fair free

647
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: dell uh and thanks for the call, buddy, but I

648
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: don't think it's fair too. It was, yes, he was

649
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: oh for five, but you know what if he went

650
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: five for five that that didn't mean he was the

651
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: next guy the air apparent either. It was it was

652
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: garbage time, you know what I'm saying. I mean, and

653
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: it was his first time, so I can't say yea

654
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: or nay on Kylo lett I don't think that's would

655
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: be fair to Letta. All the giants, you know, everybody

656
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: was screaming. See, let me tell you something. Eli Manning

657
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: screwed it up for everybody because everybody wanted to see.

658
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: All the naysayers wanted to see. Oh, let's let's bring

659
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: in you know, let's let's let the giants get but

660
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: let them there knocked on her asses and they're on

661
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: the other side of a forty nothing score, Well then

662
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 1: we'll bring in low Letta. No, this was forty nothing

663
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: lead third quarter and then the third quarter. Eli sits

664
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: says the whole narrative, all their storylines what they will

665
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: hope but the right now you read today, Oh yeah,

666
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: I guess Eli, Now it looks like, yeah, he's gonna

667
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: be back and you know, get them and it's gonna

668
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: be all guinea and this is where they're going, and yeah,

669
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: I made a mistake. Eli should come back, and maybe

670
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: you should take a pay cook. You know, everything's changed.

671
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: The narrative is all change right now. Yeah, it's not

672
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: fair to Kyle um, No, it's not it really know.

673
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: And a practice, Uh, Pat Shermer's one of those coaches.

674
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't give first team reps to the backup quarterback,

675
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: whether it's Alex Hanny or Kyle Ailetta. So he had

676
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: you have to take mental reps there. And and practice

677
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: is practice. If you're not getting steps into the center

678
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: with the first team and you're thrown into a football game,

679
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: you're expected to know the place. You're expected to go

680
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: out there and be able to run the offense. And

681
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: guess what, the first time you got out there, they

682
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: couldn't get to play right. They had to call a

683
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: time out. If you remember that, it was in the

684
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: start of the first quarter, they had to call a

685
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: time out. And if they showed it on on the

686
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: replay of of coach Shermer saying what what are you doing?

687
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: So that's the first thing. The second thing is that

688
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: it had twelve minute a huddle at one point in time.

689
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things that happened. As a

690
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks the most difficult position to play in any sport

691
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: in my opinion. But it's tough to go out there

692
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: when you you have to prepare to play. But it's

693
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: a lot different when you haven't been able to prepare

694
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: underneath the center at practice. No a hun you know so,

695
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: and it's different. You know, today's practices are much different

696
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: than the games. I can tell you that the speed

697
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: of the game is just the way things are happening.

698
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: Let's go to Connecticut and check in with Marco. Marco,

699
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,479
Speaker 1: you're on with Rush and Jeff. Hi, Marcoy, Jeff Russ.

700
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: How are you guys? Good? Good shows today, guys. I'm

701
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: just being on hold. I'm learning a lot that that point, yeah, Jeff,

702
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: that point that um coaching tip that you've tipped off

703
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: about Tyke Tolber, that was awesome. I didn't know that

704
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: about his, uh what he and Latimer specialized in, So

705
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: that was great to hear. Um. But and then so

706
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: I have two questions, but that that also brought me

707
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: onto this is that it's clear to the team is

708
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: responding to the coaching that's going on here. And they

709
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: bought into Shermer, which is evident. Now what what you

710
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: just said with that with the wide receivers. But I'm

711
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: also seeing an improvement in special teams. Two huge plays

712
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: last week and this week on special teams. Um, it's

713
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: clear something great going on with the offensive line mixture,

714
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: coach mixture. Uh. So I'm happy with what I'm seeing. Um,

715
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: here's my here's my two questions. Question one is, Jeff,

716
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: this is more for you. Do you think or have

717
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: you been on a team. Have you ever been on

718
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: a team, uh, in your career where they started off

719
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: poorly and then maybe the following season you really benefited

720
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: from the winning that went on late in the previous season.

721
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: Was there is there anything to a continuation or do

722
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 1: you feel like they are really actually separate seasons? And yeah, okay,

723
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: and the and the um if you want to answer that,

724
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: and then I'll ask my Well, and I'm not and

725
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: John and I do this show every Friday. When I

726
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: do a show with Friday, it's it's you know, did

727
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: did Jeff Fiegels play with one of these. My memory

728
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: is horrible. It's really bad when it comes to that

729
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, like I don't remember records of teams

730
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: I played on and things like that. I do remember

731
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: the year I was three and thirteen with the Cardinals,

732
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: though that had like a distinguished effect in my mind

733
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: about bad we were. But um, I will tell you

734
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: that I think it does have an effect going forward

735
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: to a point. I don't think it's a big thing,

736
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: but I think it's a it's more of a coaching

737
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: point that they can make to the existing players that

738
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: are on the team again next year. Hey, guys, this

739
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: is how we finished. You guys did this, You did

740
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: a great job at this, and the new guys that

741
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: are coming in this is the culture that we've built

742
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: because of it, and so it kind of ties it

743
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: all together. And I think it's coaching points that they

744
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: make as far as the success and then not success

745
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: of last year. So if that answers your question, Jeff, Jeff,

746
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: isn't it isn't it true? You know? Also staying on

747
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: the same situation that, um, you know, a coach can

748
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: look at his players and say, okay, we will one

749
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: in seven, and you see, though you stuck with me.

750
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: You stuck with what we're trying to do here. So

751
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 1: now the players and everybody, we're believing in the system,

752
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: we're believing in the coaches, and therefore you believe in yourself.

753
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something else that resonates in the

754
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: locker room. Uh, when people lose their jobs during the

755
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: season that are brought in here in the off season

756
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: and paid a lot of money. That resonates in the

757
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: locker room. That Hey, I could be the next guy.

758
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about Patrick or Momy Okay. He you know,

759
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: he got paid a lot of money in here to

760
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: come play right guard and he didn't pan out and

761
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: they cut him. Okay, So that doesn't So that makes

762
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: a big difference, okay. And I think that Dave Gentleman

763
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: is one of those general managers that you're either put

764
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: up or shut up, and I'll get rid of you

765
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna play, okay, And that's that's kind

766
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: of has a distinct effect in the locker room. It

767
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: really does. And and in fairness, uh, it wasn't his guy,

768
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: but he gave him a clean slate, Eric Flowers, and

769
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: it didn't work out. So he said, okay, the cut

770
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: his losses. They hung on as long as they could

771
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: and then they said, audios. That was that was the deal.

772
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: Uh two five one three the number. Gotta remind everybody

773
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: wants a good, big, big blue kickoff Live here, presented

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776
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: of this two thousand and eighteen season. Let's go to

777
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: rose Hill. Now check in with Jimmy. How are you

778
00:40:54,719 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: doing today, Jim Russ and what's going on? Russell's pleasure

779
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: to talk to you man, Jeff, Jeff, It's twice in

780
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: a week, so I'm on a roll. You are on

781
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: a roll. I love it, you know, I just want

782
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: to follow up on. It's great being on hold because

783
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: you know, you go through a little checklist the things

784
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: you want to talk about, and people knock them off.

785
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: So um, but I'd like to come back to Jeff

786
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: and is like with Marco the previous call. You know

787
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: how people look at Shermer and people made so many

788
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: quick evaluations and rushes to judgment about, you know, about demand,

789
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: his demeanor at the Pope, all sorts of stuff. You

790
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: know it And I know it. But um, I think

791
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: another I think that's all I think the average fan

792
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: overlooks when they're trying to quote unquote evaluate a coach

793
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: is not just the guy standing on the sidelines. So

794
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: in this case is also cool in the place. But

795
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: what kind of a staff does he put together? And

796
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: that staff is a is a is a way for

797
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: the public to also get another insight into just what

798
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: the head coaches philosophy is to how a team should

799
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: be constructed. And I think, um, in particular, I can't

800
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: get over night and day, the special teams. And if

801
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: you think about last week's game in particular, um, remember

802
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: those first couple of series. I mean I mean they,

803
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: I mean the offense look like, you know, nothing, They

804
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: just came out. They were kind of flat. Fortunately, Redskins

805
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: had nothing on offense. The defense, you know, didn't even

806
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: allow Washington to think they were winning the game. And

807
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: then boom, we get the special teams, you know, play

808
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: down there on the two yard line interception and it

809
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: was like a spark went off and and yes there's

810
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: these kids. These guys are out there and there are

811
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: a lot of veterans, young guys, a mixture, but still

812
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: special teams is so much of it as coaching, and um,

813
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: I don't know the special team coach's name, but you know,

814
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: Gettleman and Sherma did something about him that they said

815
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: they want him to coach the type of special teams UM,

816
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: that that we've seen actually the whole season, not just

817
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: not just recently. I think people have been paying more

818
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: attention to them recently, but they've had a good, solid season.

819
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: But anyway, Jeff, I know, being a special team of yourself,

820
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: it's probably hot warming to see that. Well, Listen, they

821
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: didn't have far to go to get better because they

822
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: were the worst last year. UM. But Terence mcgahey is

823
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: the special teams coordinator. Terence mcgahey was also the assistant

824
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: special teams coach under Tom Quinn when I was here. UM,

825
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 1: So they've got quinn is back, and they also brought

826
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 1: Tom Quinn back to handle some of you know, coach mcgahey.

827
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: He has been going having some health problems a little bit,

828
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: so he's off and on once in a while. So

829
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: they wanted to have Tom Quinn, who has a familiarity

830
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: with the with the roster and obviously being the coordinator

831
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: in this league for a long time. So so they

832
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: basically worked together. UM, and their special teams is built

833
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: this year was built from one Dave Gentleman. He has

834
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: a high priority about special teams. Okay, Um, he was

835
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: on the staff when I came here. UM with Ernie Corsi.

836
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 1: He said, listen, we gotta have a punter, we gotta

837
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: have a new kicker, and we gotta have a new

838
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: snapper after that San Francisco debacle in two thousand and two. UM,

839
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: so they went out and got special teams players. They

840
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: went out and got Dominic, Dick Hickson. You know, guys

841
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: that make big differences. But what happened was you get uh,

842
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: you get a philosophy coming from the general manager. Your

843
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: positions are linebackers, backup linebackers and receivers are your special

844
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: teams guys using your core guys. You might throw a

845
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: safety in there. Look at who's making the plays this

846
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: year on special teams. It's that receiver crew you got.

847
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: You got Shepherd who's making it. He got hammeled all

848
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: these guys that are making these plays, our backup receivers.

849
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: You know, Um, when Russell Shepherd caught the touchdown pass,

850
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: UH a couple of weeks ago from one last week

851
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: to from Odell the fifty nine yard and everybody was

852
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: around his locker, Jimmy, you know, asking him about it,

853
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: and and Russell was proud to say, I've made my career,

854
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: I make my living. My pride is my special team.

855
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: Well there you go. And he he brought it up.

856
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: Nobody brought it up. They were talking about the cut

857
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: touchdown catch. He says, no, no, no, my I make

858
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: my bread and butter. I mean, he's more proud of

859
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: you know that play, uh, down on the ball, down

860
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: on the ball. That was to me that that's his

861
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: play to see his fourth and fifth and sometimes sixth receiver. Um,

862
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: and you know those are your gunners that run down

863
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: on on on punt team. There are the guys that

864
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: are returning kicks, and they're also the guys that are

865
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: covering kicks on kickoff. UM Coleman is another guy the

866
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: return game. Look at the return game, Jimmy. You're getting

867
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: positive yards on punt returns to whether it's a nine eleven,

868
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 1: twelve yard returns, those are first downs for your offense. Okay.

869
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: And the second thing is that, yeah, you can take

870
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: a knee and get it to the twenty five. But

871
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: Coleman is getting the ball out to the thirty thirty

872
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: four forty yard line. Those are eight starting positions for

873
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: your offense, and and really it builds that kind of

874
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: that that good momentum going for it. And I haven't

875
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: even mentioned Aldrick Rosshous yet. Okay, all he should be

876
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl this year. He missed an extra

877
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: point for god saves. Come on, Aldrick was like seven fields.

878
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: Oh well, the whole league. But to feel I could

879
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: talk an hour on the field and about the Redskins field,

880
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: it's a joke. Okay, I've been so I was going

881
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: to ask you about how he missed, how it went

882
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: about miss I actually know what it's. It's fear even

883
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: admitting this. But when they scored the last touchdown and

884
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: they were lining up for the extra point, I actually,

885
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, I turned the game off briefly to go

886
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: to red zone whatever the hell it is, and I

887
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: came back and I see the score still forwarding nothing.

888
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: I said, he must have missed an extra point. Did

889
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: that happen? Well, you know what happens the field. And

890
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: then of course you got Riley Dixon that came in

891
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: here and he's doing a heck of a job as

892
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: far as placement and kicks, and he's the one that's

893
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: putting those balls down there inside the five yardland and

894
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: making the guys may plays. And um, you know I

895
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: used to make those plays, as you know, Jimmy. And

896
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. The one guy that would meet

897
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: me coming off the sideline when I was running into

898
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: this bench was straight hand and he would always stay

899
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: to Meeks way to go. Man. They can't call all

900
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: their plays now. When that ball is in the two

901
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: yard line. There isn't a big playbook. Everything everything changes.

902
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Thank you so much. One real

903
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: quick thing you were talking about Buckley and Jeter, and

904
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: all I can say is before I hang up, is

905
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: it's natural the Bronx. Let's keep that in alright, thank you.

906
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: You know. And you remember he's still like twenty. What

907
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: is can't be more than that? Right? So I think

908
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: this go go back ten years and he's ten years old.

909
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: Eli and Jeter his guys. Yeah no, this is like wow,

910
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: these are the guys. Yeah yeah. Now, and now he's

911
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: sitting there, you know. Now he's shaking the ball from Eli.

912
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: He shouldered the shoulder and he the teammates that. You

913
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: know what I always thought that was. You know, that's

914
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: quite uh, that's quite something. One years old February seven.

915
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: You know you talk about Riley Dixon. I've always felt

916
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: I've always felt that the most underrated job football, There's

917
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: no question, right, No, No, I'm not not not just

918
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: the holder, the holder too, Yeah, because to me, I mean,

919
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: if you don't get it down and we know what

920
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: punters do, we know what thankless job but for crying

921
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: out loud, one little school on that hole and a

922
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: lot of times you gotta grab it high and grab

923
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: it low, grab it off the ground. It really is.

924
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 1: I mean I've been I've been telling people this for years.

925
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: The best athletes on the team are usually the punters.

926
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, you've been telling it. Just nobody listens, that's all. No,

927
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: it's a crucious. The only thing. The only time you

928
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: talk about the holder is when something bad happens. So

929
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: now that's true. I mean that makes some good place.

930
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: It gets taken for granted all the time. Tell you

931
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: what real quick? Talking about quick? Let me tell you

932
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: this the time that the snap when when the when

933
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: the snapper snaps the ball to the time the holder

934
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: catches the ball and puts it on the ground and

935
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: the kicker kicks it take a gainder on how fast

936
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: you think that happens, I will tell you that it's

937
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: less than five seconds. It's actually one point three seconds,

938
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: one three, one thousand and one. That's it. That's how

939
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: fast a field goal or an extra point goes. Let listen,

940
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: I I've I've said that same thing with the long snapper.

941
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: You know, it might till till it screws up, then

942
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: everybody care. And a punt is usually to one point

943
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: nine to two seconds. So when thousand one, one thousand two,

944
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: and that's that, that's snapped, travel fifteen yards, caught, kicked

945
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: and want two seconds? Alright? Two o nine four or

946
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: five one three is the number you're speaking with Russ

947
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: Salzburg and Jeff the punter. Let's not go out to Oakland, California,

948
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,240
Speaker 1: check in with my How you doing today, Mike Hi, Mikey,

949
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. How about you guys? Okay, um. I

950
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: just wanted to point out a couple of things, and

951
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: then Jeff, I got a question for you. But the

952
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: first thing I want to talk about is Olivia burning.

953
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: And you know it's been a crazy couple of weeks

954
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: for me. So I didn't get on last week, but

955
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: I gotta. I gotta talk about the play he made

956
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: in overtime at the Chicago Bears game, because you know,

957
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: it was looking like they were gonna, you know, have

958
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: a chance to take the game. Um, you know, we

959
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: really needed to play. And I turned to my buddy

960
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, it's like, you know, some eighteen

961
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: million bucks a year, like this is when we need

962
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: Olivia burning to step up and make a play, and

963
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: he pulls off a strip sack. So I just want

964
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: to say, you know, some credit there, because mostly when

965
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: we're talking about him, we're talking about the lack of sacks.

966
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: But you know that I'm not going to put him

967
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: in the LT type neighborhood yet. But but you know,

968
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: not not not yet, not ever. I knew I get

969
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: a comment. I knew this rust would say something. You know,

970
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 1: listen and I love Olivier, but don't say not yet,

971
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: not ever. Okay, not ever, not ever. That's that's that's true,

972
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: very true. But you know he did pull that off,

973
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: and I was, you know, I just was so happy

974
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: when it happened, and I just want to give him

975
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: some credit. So, um, and the other thing. You know,

976
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: you guys have been talking a lot today about how

977
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: well the receivers are blocking, and you know, I couldn't

978
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more, um, but I just want to

979
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: put out point out from a coaching standpoint. They gave

980
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepard the game ball. He had like seventeen yards

981
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: on two catches and he had a touchdown, but like

982
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: the game the game ball because of the way he's blocking.

983
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: And that's as a heck of a lot about how

984
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: this coaching squad is, you know, is reinforcing the good

985
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: stuff that these guys are doing. Well. You know what

986
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: Sterling said, and what Sterling wasn't the only guy. I

987
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: heard Michael Thomas say it after the game and Sterling

988
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: said it. They all, to a man are saying it.

989
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: We're playing for each other. That's a very good it's

990
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean that that is sweet music to a coach's ears.

991
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: We're playing for each other and that's a united front.

992
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: The other thing too, about that blocking, that's contagious. It

993
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: actually now now people are gonna want to one up Sterling.

994
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna want to go down and you know, and

995
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: they want to get a game ball because they can block.

996
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: Some days they can't catch, but they can get a

997
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: game on from blocking, which is fine. What was your

998
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: question there, Mike, Well, I talked to you, um last week,

999
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: and I was saying that I thought that our offensive

1000
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: line might be kind of closer than that most people

1001
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: were thinking about it. But it but it kind of

1002
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: depended on whether Spencer Pulley was just a you know,

1003
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 1: a short term sub or whether he has the potential

1004
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: to be a bona fide starter. And um, you know,

1005
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: neither of us had really had a lot of time

1006
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: to really watch his play and so, um, you kind

1007
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: of pushed it back on me, But I was just

1008
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: wondering if your opinion has changed it off, if you've

1009
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 1: had a chance to really, you know, kind of watch

1010
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: his performance in the last two games. Well, I think

1011
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: he's getting better, and I think that comes with you know, Listen,

1012
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: the guy started sixteen games last year for the for

1013
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: the the Chargers, so he definitely has some experience. But um,

1014
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: I think that there's gonna be a good competition there

1015
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: next next year, and I think that's a good thing.

1016
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: You've got John Hallapeo, who obviously won the job, was

1017
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: the starter and then went out because of injury and

1018
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: then Spencer Polly well John Greco come in there for

1019
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: a while. But I think this will be really good

1020
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 1: for this team to have two guys that they feel

1021
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: can play and you have a good backup come out

1022
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: of one of those, either it's him or or Polly

1023
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: or hall Apeal next year. So and again, Mike, what

1024
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: what we've been saying all afternoon. There's an evaluation going on.

1025
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: Everybody's being evaluate Yeah, and I think that he's making

1026
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: a good a good case to be able to compete

1027
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: for the job next year. So without question, this one

1028
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: last little quick thing in case somebody else wasn't listening,

1029
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: is um Paul Latino said that Spencer Polley was playing

1030
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: hurt last year, so you know he's been it seems

1031
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: to me like he's doing the heck of a job.

1032
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: And there you go. Took a couple of games to

1033
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: get into the system. So you know, I got a

1034
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: lot of hope that maybe all we really need is

1035
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: a right tackle and you know, we'll see how Chad

1036
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: Wheeler does the rest of the year, but we've got

1037
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: some competition and maybe some depth all right. When he's

1038
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: Young's appreciate it. Mike let's now go to Middletown, New

1039
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: York and check in right. Uh, Jeff Figgles it's race

1040
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: slots from podcast Bootcamp. How are you doing, buddy? Oh?

1041
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: I know a lot of rays, but I didn't think

1042
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: it would be this Ray. How are you good? Man? Good?

1043
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to say how proud I am

1044
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,959
Speaker 1: of how well you've you've done since uh we worked

1045
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: with you over there at screwing it up down there

1046
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: and Mount Laurel. You've come a long way. Well, thank you.

1047
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: It's uh listen, that was a lot of fun and

1048
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: you guys set the stage for me, so I do

1049
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Um. You know, it's a lot easier than

1050
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: it looks, that's for sure. And some days it's better

1051
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: and some days it's not. Thank you, Ray. I just

1052
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: wanted to go back to a point you guys are

1053
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: making about Kwan Barkley. If you guys go back and

1054
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: look at the TV copy when Curtis Riley made the

1055
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: interception and took it in for the pick six, you

1056
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: know he did he did that move where he acted

1057
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: like he was laying the ball up into uh, you know,

1058
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: into the rim. Okay. I don't know how they caught this,

1059
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 1: but the Fox director managed to catch Curtis Riley back

1060
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: on the sideline and guests who was talking to him

1061
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: after the extra point kwon Barkley Barkley and I won't

1062
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: bet you dollars to donuts. Barkley was saying to Curtis, Hey, dude,

1063
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: you made a great play, but you gotta make sure

1064
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: you're crossing that goal line and that those guys hands

1065
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: are up in the air before you do any of

1066
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And not just that just goes

1067
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: to the number one the maturity of this kid, right

1068
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: and number two, the time of confidence that he has

1069
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: that he can go to a six or seven years

1070
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: veterman and pointing something out and that guy is listening

1071
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: to the rookie. Well, you know what, Ray, you make

1072
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: a very good point. But remember something, uh with he

1073
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: has that confidence not because he was the number two

1074
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: pick overall, but because he's playing like the number two

1075
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: pick overall. He's also been in the end zone a

1076
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: lot more than Curtis Riley. Yeah, I mean, you know,

1077
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: but let's listen. He has born leadership skills. He wants

1078
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: to be the best, He wants to be the leader

1079
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: of Listen, Ray. No one's gonna dispute that. But it's

1080
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: a lot easier to go up and and be that

1081
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: person and get everybody's attention when you're delivering the way

1082
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: he's delivering. You've been around football a long time. Who

1083
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 1: does he remind you of? You know, it's tough because

1084
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: you know, I've been a chime fan all my life.

1085
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: I've been listening to since I was a kid, and

1086
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: so you know, when I try to think of giant players,

1087
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: I can't come up with a giant running back because, um,

1088
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: the the only guy that I loved when he first

1089
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: came to the Giants, and he came to the Giants

1090
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: via a trade with the Cleveland Browns when we absolutely

1091
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: stink that was Ron Johnson. Okay, but but I think

1092
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: having sat down and actually talk with and interview Barry

1093
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: Sanders over my years of producing football for Fox, he

1094
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: is the closest guy to Barry Sanders and ability and

1095
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: demeanor that I've ever met, I'll touch The difference is

1096
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: he's a lot bigger. Yeah. I mean that's that's what's

1097
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 1: you know, striking about him. I Mean, he's got those

1098
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: jitterbug moves, but he's he's a big man. He's a

1099
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: big man, and when you compare the two their balances

1100
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: is just unbelievable to me. The way that he can

1101
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: can can be become unbalanced and quickly get balanced. You know,

1102
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: he's got vision um and he's just getting better by

1103
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: the minute. You know, the game is coming. Uh. One

1104
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: thing about the professional level, as you know, is it's

1105
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: a look a lot quicker than playing a Penn State

1106
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: But that never has bothered him that much. Is he's

1107
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: just getting smarter, I think, learning how to play the

1108
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: game of professional football at this level and being able

1109
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: to take that leadership role like you had said about

1110
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: Curtis Riley and him doing the finger role, you know

1111
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: the guy. What's more impressive to that, And if this

1112
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: is the case is the fact that the guy's a

1113
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: six or seven year veteran is listening to a rookie.

1114
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: That kind of catches your eye, it really does. Thanks

1115
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: for the call, right, you gotta run right, good talking

1116
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: to you. Thanks for calling. Answer. Well, I'll tell you something, Jeff.

1117
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: You know, listen, you were talking about you know what

1118
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: this buildings like. It's the same thing with the fans

1119
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: out there, you know, you know, everything changes, It's not

1120
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: gloom and doom. It's you can't wait to talk on

1121
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: him Monday, as opposed to oh, here we go there.

1122
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: Some of those say, I did a lot of them

1123
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: on Monday's. Trust me listen. You know one in seven's uh,

1124
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, become very very difficult. But you know, to

1125
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: everybody's credit, in particular the coaching staff and the players,

1126
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: they stuck together. And you know, people a lot of times,

1127
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: you know, some of the fans out there would challenge me.

1128
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: You know, Ross you always say that nobody hates losing

1129
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: more than the players do. But where the fans. But now,

1130
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: I still maintain that players are miserable when they lose.

1131
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: And you know what, from a common sense standpoint, it's

1132
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: it's the competitive nature that they have. But Jeff brought

1133
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: it up, but you have to wait our week to

1134
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: play again. That's what gets you. Yeah, And it's also

1135
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: your livelihood. And as Jeff wrote out, when people see

1136
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: somebody's getting cut, they know what can happen to them

1137
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: real fast, and their livelihood is taken away. So I'll

1138
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: still maintain that. You know, that's you know, coaches get

1139
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: hired to be fired, and that's the life that they

1140
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: lead and they of that life. It's a tough you know. No, no, listen,

1141
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: no one's having tag days, you know, sale days for them,

1142
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, or charity functions. But it's still a tough

1143
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: life to live. And you know they're they're in the

1144
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: spotlight all the time. But this team coaches players, they've

1145
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: stuck together and as the players said, after the last

1146
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: week's getting better. You're playing for each other. So I

1147
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: remember Ray by the way, Oh yeah, he's yeah, a

1148
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: great guy. That's a great system, that's a great program.

1149
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: You know. The broadcast is close. It's in Mount Laurel

1150
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: where the NFL FIM. They do the broadcasting boot camp

1151
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: for a lot of the players, and you learn everything

1152
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: about it and you've done it all, so it's it's

1153
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: it's it's it's amazing that you run the gamut there.

1154
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: You're doing interviews, you're doing this, you're doing play by play,

1155
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: you're learning how to interview people. You're there for five days, right, Yeah,

1156
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: I mean it is it's a detail. They're not five

1157
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: I think they come in the first day. You have

1158
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: three days there and then you leave the whatever the

1159
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth day. Did you get your money back? Yeah,

1160
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it's it's a lot of work

1161
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: and plus it's hard. I mean listen, and most of

1162
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: the guys that go there are just right out of

1163
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: their career are learning how to do it, so they

1164
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of experience, and they put you

1165
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: in with um, you know, real people that are actually

1166
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: been in the business forever, and they're like they're expecting

1167
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: you to work with you know, like the play by

1168
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: playing thing we did, it was that it was the

1169
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: play by play guy for the Detroit Lions, for God's sakes,

1170
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: and we're doing color for the It's like it's learning

1171
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: under learning under fire, but you do, you do. It's

1172
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: a great experience in the NFL. Really, you see the guys,

1173
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: most of the guys that make it, they're able to

1174
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: come out of that boot camp. Is pretty cool. Thank you, Russ,

1175
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: You've done a good job, buddy, and I thank you,

1176
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: and thanks to a man at the Control's Dave Dominic,

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01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: Jeff Eagles Am Russ Sulzburg has always Thank you too, fans,

1178
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: and I will see you back here tomorrow on Big

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Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff Live on Giants dot Com. Later