WEBVTT - 536 | Notable MLB Call Ups and Prospect Promotions

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<v Speaker 1>Any swags, Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Understanding, deep just center field and it's gone Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>His first big league swing is gonna be a grand slam,

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<v Speaker 3>a home line swing.

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<v Speaker 1>Good time, walk to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to the Call Up, your go to podcast

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<v Speaker 4>in the future stars in Major League Baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>You got arm Late and Elijah Evans.

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<v Speaker 4>We are talking big league debuts, some notable promotions, and

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<v Speaker 4>some notable pro debuts as well. Everything from you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm excited to talk Grady Emerson making his pro debut

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<v Speaker 4>technically if you don't count the Bridge League, but I've

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<v Speaker 4>been seeing some good video out there from Emerson in

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<v Speaker 4>the Bridge League running from the ops or running from

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<v Speaker 4>the ops. Great job, by the way on him covering

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<v Speaker 4>the Bridge League out there in like Central Florida. But

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<v Speaker 4>we also have Joshua Bias his debut. Obviously, we've talked

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<v Speaker 4>a ton about that, but him getting caught up to

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<v Speaker 4>the big leagues for the Cardinals. What that's gonna look like,

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<v Speaker 4>Because we've seen both ends of the spectrum already in

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<v Speaker 4>the early going here and then plenty in between promotions

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<v Speaker 4>and the Biloxi Shuckers reloaded looking like one of the

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<v Speaker 4>best teams in the Minor leagues continuously. We've got Jesus

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<v Speaker 4>made and louis paying you back together again. So a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of fun headlines here across the minor leagues.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we got we got a good collection here. We

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<v Speaker 3>got a couple of a number of big, big debuts

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<v Speaker 3>that have been pretty fun. Obviously a crazy, historic big

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<v Speaker 3>league debut to kick it off here, and then many

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<v Speaker 3>others that have been pretty interesting to keep an eye on.

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<v Speaker 3>Are just recalls. Some guys coming up. Ricky Tiedeman another

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<v Speaker 3>one that's funny. I'm excited to get to him later

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<v Speaker 3>because it's a name that we probably haven't mentioned in

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<v Speaker 3>a long time, but he's made it parents in Toronto

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<v Speaker 3>and that was cool to see. We'll kick it off

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<v Speaker 3>with Joshua Bias because I feel like we have to

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<v Speaker 3>kick it off there and it's only right to do so,

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<v Speaker 3>because the three homer big league debut was historic, incredible

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<v Speaker 3>and really one of those moments that makes you realize

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<v Speaker 3>how nuts baseball is. And that's what you had mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>to me after that happened, followed by what has been

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<v Speaker 3>a rough couple games after that. But by this is

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<v Speaker 3>such a polarizing prospect and obviously someone that you've been

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<v Speaker 3>marginally lower on than some others, but super talented. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>the raw power is incredible and you saw it immediately

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<v Speaker 3>the first three of that's of his career, but also

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<v Speaker 3>going to come with his fair share of coldstreak. So

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<v Speaker 3>where you at with bias? Like, how was that experience?

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<v Speaker 3>Just watching that and now like, yeah, that was five

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<v Speaker 3>games into his big league career.

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<v Speaker 1>That was real.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it was really it was special to do

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<v Speaker 4>it at regularly. I mean just just they had like

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<v Speaker 4>thirty family members there. I mean, there's such an easy

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<v Speaker 4>guy to root for, given the hurdles that he said professionally,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we've talked about it to take himself from

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<v Speaker 4>a guy that I mean looks like he was trending

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<v Speaker 4>towards being an ORG guy with the struggles and if

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<v Speaker 4>you looked at what the swing looked like when he

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<v Speaker 4>was in the lower level is I mean it was

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<v Speaker 4>really rough, and he was striking out north of thirty

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<v Speaker 4>percent of the time against lower level competition. And to

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<v Speaker 4>rework as Swang and to have the success that he's

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<v Speaker 4>had over the last two seasons, it's just been so

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<v Speaker 4>amazing and play his way into being a player that

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<v Speaker 4>the Cardinals are focused on and saying, hey, we can't

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<v Speaker 4>call him up before X date because we wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>be rookie eligible next year. Now do I think over

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<v Speaker 4>the course of a full season next year he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be competing for the Rookie of the Year. I would,

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<v Speaker 4>I lean know, because I just think the approach and

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<v Speaker 4>the swing is exploitable. But I do think that this

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<v Speaker 4>is still a player that can be useful at the

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<v Speaker 4>big league level, and he's not going to be on

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<v Speaker 4>our top point hundred update. I'm bracing for impact on

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<v Speaker 4>that next week. We've had, you know, plenty of pushback consistently.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just because I think he ultimately lands is you know,

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<v Speaker 4>more of that short platoon guy.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen a demolish lefties.

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<v Speaker 4>He did three times against Matthew Board when he can

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<v Speaker 4>get those arms out there and extended.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that the power is crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think from the hard throwing righties, especially like

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<v Speaker 4>two seemers running in just anything kind of that can

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<v Speaker 4>tie him up and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>At the top. I saw it so frequently this year

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<v Speaker 1>already too.

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<v Speaker 4>Can really you can really do him in, but you

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<v Speaker 4>leave it over the heart of the plate, you leave

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<v Speaker 4>something that he can time up like it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>gone at a really high you know, I would say

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<v Speaker 4>a high rate compared to even some of the other

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<v Speaker 4>you know, solid hitters that there are in the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Like when it comes hitting mistakes, he can be as

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<v Speaker 4>good as anybody and you can make.

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<v Speaker 1>A career off that. My other concern is that.

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<v Speaker 4>The glove is not as as good as you may

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<v Speaker 4>think because of how straight line fast he is for

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<v Speaker 4>a big dude. So I just think it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>difficult to get to like two plus three war and

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<v Speaker 4>that's what holds him just outside of the top one hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>But the debut is just a flash of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>what you can get with a player like Joshua Bise.

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<v Speaker 1>When he's hot.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's very similar to what we've seen from

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<v Speaker 4>like Asmarleian Valdez and and again could be a useful player,

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<v Speaker 4>But I just think that there's gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of turbulence. And I do think that he's the kind

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<v Speaker 4>of guy that when you execute your game plan as

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<v Speaker 4>a pitcher, you can set him down a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>more frequently than the average, you know, big leaguehitter.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm true Stale the Cardinals run him out too, because,

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<v Speaker 3>like I know, they're they're not quite in like the

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<v Speaker 3>contender bucket, but they're still a competitive team and they're

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<v Speaker 3>still have a shot to try to make the playoffs

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<v Speaker 3>right now. So do they give him the run to

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<v Speaker 3>play every day or does it start to become a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more of a platoon type of bat. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure exactly the direction you're gonna go with him,

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<v Speaker 3>but at the leary least, like he's he's definitely fun

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<v Speaker 3>to watch and you know, you see those moments where

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<v Speaker 3>it's like wow, and the debut obviously was incredible, but

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<v Speaker 3>I am very interested to see kind of how they

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<v Speaker 3>utilize him for the rest of the season and then

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<v Speaker 3>going into next year, Like is he on the if

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<v Speaker 3>he's on the opening day roster, Like is he is

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<v Speaker 3>he penciled as one of their starting outfielders or is

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<v Speaker 3>he penciled as a piece, you know, getting platoon at

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<v Speaker 3>bats more?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I think it's gonna be pretty consistent run at

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<v Speaker 4>least for the rest of this year, because like they

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<v Speaker 4>want to figure that out, and they also want to

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<v Speaker 4>I think hope that he can progress.

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<v Speaker 1>In some of these ways.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think ultimately he's such a stiff mover in

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<v Speaker 4>the box and and even some of the pre string

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<v Speaker 4>moves that it's gonna be really hard for him to

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<v Speaker 4>cover stuff hard inside and and even at the at

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<v Speaker 4>the top as well. And then when that speeds you up,

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<v Speaker 4>you start chasing more and you start waving at those

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<v Speaker 4>lighters away. But if he's ever gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 4>work through that, like, you got to give him the

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity to and he's gonna get a lot of time

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<v Speaker 4>to do that now against big league pitching. He can

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<v Speaker 4>go into the off season a guy that's clearly shown

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<v Speaker 4>that he can make improvements and adjustments. Go into the

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<v Speaker 4>off season, see if he can clean some of those

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<v Speaker 4>things up to you know, maybe push that hit tool

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<v Speaker 4>and the overall swing decisions a little bit higher going

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<v Speaker 4>into next season where they'll give him runway out of

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<v Speaker 4>the gate, and you see how how he performs, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>against those rights and those harder throwing rities. But some

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<v Speaker 4>bad batted ball luck in the subsequent games. But still,

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<v Speaker 4>like overall, you have that three for four, three homers

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<v Speaker 4>performance and then after that you have like a zero

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<v Speaker 4>for thirteen with I think six k's. So it's like

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be interesting to watch. I think he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to struggle a little bit, but hopefully he has some

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<v Speaker 4>of these home run barrages because he's an easy guy

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<v Speaker 4>to root for, and I mean it was really special

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<v Speaker 4>to see and like him talk about his father, his

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<v Speaker 4>late father, and you know, after the debut and just

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<v Speaker 4>just like wanting to make it to the bigs for

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<v Speaker 4>you know, with this connection to him, there's so many

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<v Speaker 4>amazing wrinkles. And I hope he proves me wrong and

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<v Speaker 4>launches forty next year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, he's got the power to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just about making more consistent strides, right. But

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<v Speaker 3>let's get over to a pitcher, another very you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fun story and someone else that we've been I think

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<v Speaker 3>you know a lot of baseball fans that are keeping

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<v Speaker 3>the prosper wal have probably been excited for the debut

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<v Speaker 3>of Matt Tugboat Wilkinson. Yeah, gotta be one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best nicknames in baseball too. Tugboat is just that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>just hard to beat. But Tugboat obviously goes over from

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<v Speaker 3>the Giant or from the Guardians org over to the

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<v Speaker 3>Giants at the deadline this year and ends up, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he makes it. He hasn't made his debut yet, but

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<v Speaker 3>he was called up what yesterday technically after would have

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<v Speaker 3>been a really good run in Double A this season,

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<v Speaker 3>had some struggles in Triple A but also pcls and

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<v Speaker 3>stowing the Giants Org not putting too much stock behind

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<v Speaker 3>what he was doing in the PCL. But now he

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<v Speaker 3>gets into the big leagues and it seems like he's

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<v Speaker 3>set to make his debut, probably in the next couple

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<v Speaker 3>of days.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, Yeah, I think it might line up where

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<v Speaker 4>he makes it against Cleveland, which would be nuts.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it looks like I don't think he's scheduled for

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<v Speaker 3>a start yet technically, or he's not like on the

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<v Speaker 3>official like scheduled starters profile, but I think it seems

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<v Speaker 3>like it would be very likely tomorrow. Potentially they have

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<v Speaker 3>a TVD there for the first Sanrancis against Cleveland, so

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<v Speaker 3>that'd be kind of cool against his old team.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's great timing there, you know, of course included

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<v Speaker 4>in that Patrick Bailey deal.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's an interesting arm.

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<v Speaker 4>I will endlessly root for this guy because he's just

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<v Speaker 4>so much fun, and I have some cards that I'll

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<v Speaker 4>just never sell. But he it's ninety miles an hour, man,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's kind of this invisible, this upshoot delivery. He

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<v Speaker 4>gets down the mound like, you know, this is a

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<v Speaker 4>six to one, two hundred and fifty pound guy, but

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<v Speaker 4>he's an athlete up there, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he drives, he works down the mound.

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<v Speaker 4>He creates a slight crossfire and it's it's a sub

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<v Speaker 4>five foot release, like it's a four point nine foot release.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's this low release.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of upshoot run and ride that I think creates

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<v Speaker 4>some deception. It gets above average extension, which only helps.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's ninety miles an hour. So here's the thing

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<v Speaker 4>with the deceptive lefties. And it either works or it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't in the big leagues.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know like that it's just is what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't I can't face them one hundred times to

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<v Speaker 4>tell you if it's gonna work or not.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna find out.

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<v Speaker 4>There's been so many guys through the years that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I look at the stuff, I see them in the mino.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, go, oh man, there's no way that's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>work in the big leagues.

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<v Speaker 1>And it does.

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<v Speaker 4>And then there's been guys where it's like, I actually

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<v Speaker 4>like this. I think this could work. You know, he

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<v Speaker 4>misses enough bats and then he just misses no bats

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<v Speaker 4>in the big leagus, so it's it's tough. I think

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<v Speaker 4>the big thing with Tugboat is gonna be the secondaries

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<v Speaker 4>because even if you have an invisible like if guys

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<v Speaker 4>know that that fastball is common sixty percent of the time,

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<v Speaker 4>which is what the usage is for Tugboat right now,

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to get to it. So it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be interesting to see his feel for the secondary is

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<v Speaker 4>like the change up field just really hasn't been there

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<v Speaker 4>for him since he's been getting used to the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the big league ball on triple A. But the slider

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<v Speaker 4>and cutter have been effective. Can he have a good

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<v Speaker 4>enough feel for those pitches. That's gonna be the big thing,

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<v Speaker 4>because again I think the upshoot weird fastball from from

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<v Speaker 4>the way he delivers too, like he hides the ball

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<v Speaker 4>really well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna work well enough.

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<v Speaker 4>But is there enough complimenting it to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>turn lineups over.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just not sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's you know, it's a fun story. It's definitely,

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully at the very least if he can be a

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<v Speaker 3>swing man, maybe there's some value there, Right, there's something there,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's like, you know, the upside is definitely probably limited. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a profile you're looking at and saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy's going to be a rotations, you know, stable

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<v Speaker 3>guy for ten years to come. Either way, Like he's

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<v Speaker 3>just the fun pitcher. Is a unique pitcher too, which

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<v Speaker 3>is interesting, and for San Francisco, like they're out of it, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>see what you got here and let him get some

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<v Speaker 3>run hopefully, And whether it's as a starter, it seems

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<v Speaker 3>like could be like a bulk relief guy or potentially

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<v Speaker 3>starting fully. So either way, honestly, like there's no reason

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<v Speaker 3>for the Giants not to give him run here for

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<v Speaker 3>the next six weeks to see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he's a good depth arm I think regardless,

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<v Speaker 4>Like if he's an up and down guy for you,

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<v Speaker 4>like that's you need those guys through the course of

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<v Speaker 4>a season. You can go in there and compete and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, give you four or five innings. But again,

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<v Speaker 4>if he can find a feel for that change up

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<v Speaker 4>off of that fastball, then all of a sudden, I

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<v Speaker 4>think it becomes a little bit more interesting, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it still looks like good depth and fun,

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<v Speaker 4>easy player to root for.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a really really good story. We're just all these

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<v Speaker 3>feel good stories here off the top here today. In

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<v Speaker 3>terms of big league debuts, Ricky Titamid made his debut,

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel like we did not hear about it

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<v Speaker 3>adequately because people like, this was a guy we were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about as one of the best pitching prospects in

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<v Speaker 3>baseball only a couple of years ago. Right has dealt

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<v Speaker 3>with a really brutal injury track record. Obviously, TJ to

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<v Speaker 3>All twenty twenty five, he went seven hundred over seven

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<v Speaker 3>hundred days without pitching in a full official game. Between

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<v Speaker 3>his surgeries the comeback, he threw what, like I think,

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen no so far, he threw seven innings in the

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<v Speaker 3>minors this year between the complex, he threw two outings

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<v Speaker 3>in the complex, two outings in Single A, and then

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<v Speaker 3>three outings of one inning each in Triple A. And

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<v Speaker 3>then he comes up to Toronto to make a bullpen spot.

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<v Speaker 3>He ends up getting optioned right after it. But like

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<v Speaker 3>I actually thought, titaman in this bullpen roll looked pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>He topped over ninety seven and gave the Blue Jays

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<v Speaker 3>an inning in two thirds of work, and I'm curious

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<v Speaker 3>to see how if he get when he gets back up,

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<v Speaker 3>because yeah, at this point it's probably a reliever given

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<v Speaker 3>the injury history, but he could be a really good

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<v Speaker 3>reliever for Toronto.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, especially because you know that fastball the viilo is

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<v Speaker 4>still there in short spurts like we saw, like you

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned it, topping out at ninety eight and sitting ninety

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<v Speaker 4>six plus. And then from that angle, we've seen that

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<v Speaker 4>three pitch mix that in his breakout season that made

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<v Speaker 4>him one of the best pitching prospects in baseball. The fastball, slider,

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<v Speaker 4>changed combination is really good. And I think what's fun

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<v Speaker 4>for him is like the fastball slider, like that's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>make him from that angle, is gonna make him a

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<v Speaker 4>nightmare left on left matchup. But this is not a

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<v Speaker 4>guy that, like, you know, when when they counter on

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<v Speaker 4>the other side with a righty pinch hitter that you're like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh no, you know now, now it's a disadvantage on

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<v Speaker 4>our end. Like he's got the change up to equalize

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<v Speaker 4>that too. And he's always been a guy that's had

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<v Speaker 4>really steady platoons, but when he's been healthy. It's been

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<v Speaker 4>a ridiculous history, as you mentioned, like so many different

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<v Speaker 4>ailments on the way to then having the TJ. And

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<v Speaker 4>I was a little bit I held out some hope

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<v Speaker 4>that okay, maybe it was all things trying to put

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<v Speaker 4>off the TJ. Now he got the TJ, he'll come

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<v Speaker 4>back healthy. And then since coming back from the TJ,

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<v Speaker 4>it was like a neck thing and what there's you

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<v Speaker 4>can't even keep track. And so I really feel for

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<v Speaker 4>Ricky and I just think the most realistic path is

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<v Speaker 4>for him to be a reliever guy that they have

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<v Speaker 4>on the forty. Anyways, like might as well have to

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<v Speaker 4>make his debut. I think that was awesome and like

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<v Speaker 4>the American League's wide open still somehow, so he's a

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<v Speaker 4>guy can help you in the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think when.

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<v Speaker 4>You can see what you've got this year and go

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<v Speaker 4>in to next year and say, well, hey, we've got

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<v Speaker 4>like a leverage lefty, and maybe down the line you revisit,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, if he can prove that he can stay

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<v Speaker 4>healthy and stay on the field for a whole year,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you can revisit stretching him back out. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think priority here is just fill a big league role,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's shown us that he can.

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<v Speaker 3>The craziest part is that he just turned twenty four,

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<v Speaker 3>Like today actually happened with Arika Tineman Today's twenty fourth birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's the great Like you talk about a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that had so much of this hype. He was

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<v Speaker 3>a nineteen year old with a two to one ar

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<v Speaker 3>that made it to double A. I mean, this was

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<v Speaker 3>the talent was like it was up here. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>just the guy we were looking at. It's like he

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<v Speaker 3>could be good. We were looking at this guy as

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best pitching prospects in all of made

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<v Speaker 3>the due baseball, and then he goes through all these

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<v Speaker 3>different ailments. He still just turned twenty four and made

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<v Speaker 3>his big league debut at twenty three years old. So yes,

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<v Speaker 3>he is a reliever for right now, and he probably

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<v Speaker 3>is a reliever for the rest of his career. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you revisit a couple of years like you mentioned, but

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<v Speaker 3>in the time being, like, this is an extremely talented

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<v Speaker 3>guy who could be a high leverage lefty at the

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<v Speaker 3>very least right now in terms of what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 3>And like, I mean, it was a forty four percent

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<v Speaker 3>strikeout rate as a twenty year old in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 3>before the before more the injury started to set in,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the last three years have just been a mess.

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<v Speaker 3>But like forty four percent strikeout rate at twenty years

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<v Speaker 3>old in double it, I mean, come.

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<v Speaker 1>On, I really I agree. I just I really hope

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<v Speaker 1>he stays healthy.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, this Blue Jays team, like they've got some

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<v Speaker 4>some fun pieces and yeah, he's yet another one that

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<v Speaker 4>again when you can go into the next season just

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<v Speaker 4>just knowing you've got another young, you know, nasty lefty

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<v Speaker 4>to add to the fold. There he's another player than man. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just I'm rooting for it because you don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to there's nothing worse than the what could have been

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<v Speaker 4>with these pitching prospects.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's sneaky. The Blue Jays are a team that

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<v Speaker 3>I still I still kind of think they might make

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs. Honestly, I don't know. Maybe that's a little

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<v Speaker 3>too bullish, I mean, but like, no, there's no, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no say the American League books and like considering they're

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<v Speaker 3>a World Series, I mean, American Leagu's a mess obviously

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<v Speaker 3>and giving out good this team was last year, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I mean if literally, just if, like if Laddie turns

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<v Speaker 3>the corner, that team could easily be a playoff wildcard,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I could see it happening, Like I don't even

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<v Speaker 3>think it's that crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Like none of them, none of them want to make

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<v Speaker 4>the playoffs in the American League anyway. So like you,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no two bullish on any of these teams. For me,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'll believe anything. One other note too, though,

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<v Speaker 4>like just just it makes this interesting, Like they've used

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<v Speaker 4>Mason flu Hardy Aton and like Stinky, he's only twenty five,

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<v Speaker 4>but with the struggles from Bred and little like, they

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<v Speaker 4>don't really have a lefty reliever. So not only can

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<v Speaker 4>he help this year, can help? Yeah, it'd be a

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<v Speaker 4>big piece for them next year team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no doubt. Let's take a quick break and then

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get back into a couple more big league call

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<v Speaker 3>ups and then some minor league call ups promotion. Jumping

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<v Speaker 3>right back in here, we've got big league call ups,

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<v Speaker 3>minor league promotions here on this episode of the call Up.

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<v Speaker 3>Next one up is Zach Vine and this is a recall,

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<v Speaker 3>not a debut, but it still qualifies for the sake

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<v Speaker 3>of this because Zach Vine was lighting the ball on

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<v Speaker 3>firing triple A and it was just like we've just

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<v Speaker 3>been saying, like when when is he gonna get back

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<v Speaker 3>to Colorado. So obviously the Rockies are not a contending team,

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<v Speaker 3>and he struggled a lot in his brief big league

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<v Speaker 3>stint last year, but really hasn't gotten significant big league

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<v Speaker 3>run at twenty four years old. Now Zach Vine is

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<v Speaker 3>getting a chance. He's five games in, He's got a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty fun first few games here with a pair of

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<v Speaker 3>homers so far, and he looks like he's gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I ever ready reps down the stretcher for Colorado.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, a lot was made of like the

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<v Speaker 4>physical transformation and obviously mental and I think that's been

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest part for Zach Viene. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>think some people didn't know what to make like And

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<v Speaker 4>there's some kind of funny numbers thrown around when Vian

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<v Speaker 4>showed up, you know, about how much like strength he

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<v Speaker 4>added or whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think what's abundantly clear is that this guy's added.

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<v Speaker 4>He's hitting the ball harder, and I think just getting

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<v Speaker 4>into better shape, getting healthier in general has allowed him

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<v Speaker 4>to do that. Whether you believe he put on X

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<v Speaker 4>amount of muscle or whatever it may have been. He's

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<v Speaker 4>just healthier and he's he's impacting the baseball where he's

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<v Speaker 4>more explosive. He's more like that athlete that we saw

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<v Speaker 4>drafted in twenty twenty and taking better care of his

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<v Speaker 4>body and all those things translate to better evs. But

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this was a guy that I think, even

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<v Speaker 4>when you saw the really impressive minoigue season, that made

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<v Speaker 4>him one of the you know, better prospects out young

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<v Speaker 4>outfield prospects in baseball before things started to kind of

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<v Speaker 4>derail a little bit. You go, you would go beneath

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<v Speaker 4>the hood and the evs weren't quite what you thought.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was a little bit surprising to me.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember even at the time because you see the

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<v Speaker 4>long levers, he looks like a guy that's hitting the

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<v Speaker 4>ball harder than you think. And it wasn't really until

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<v Speaker 4>this season where we started to see zach Vien pop

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<v Speaker 4>the one ten pluses more consistently, and I think that

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<v Speaker 4>really helps the profile because he's not going to be a.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy that is going to hit for a ton of average.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's done a good job of improving you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the plate discipline and walking a little bit more. But

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<v Speaker 4>he's never really historically been you know, an OBP machine either.

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<v Speaker 1>So when when you look at just the ability to.

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<v Speaker 4>Add this raw impact and you know that he can

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<v Speaker 4>he can elevate pretty consistently with the way his swing

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<v Speaker 4>is is kind of geared, I think it's it's exciting

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<v Speaker 4>and it makes it a lot more easy to envision

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a potential big league bulk platoon piece here

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<v Speaker 4>for you know, I think what is another really good

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<v Speaker 4>story with the adversity that he's had to overcome, like

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<v Speaker 4>how candid he was about you know, some of the

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<v Speaker 4>substance issues he had and all the different things to

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<v Speaker 4>be up there in the big leagues now and I

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<v Speaker 4>mean putting balls in McCovey cove Like, Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be hard for him to accumulate war relatives

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<v Speaker 4>to some other guys because he's not the best defender

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<v Speaker 4>in the world. But I do think he's improved even

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<v Speaker 4>in that regard and he's gonna with But this could

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<v Speaker 4>be a solid bulk platoon bat that now is really

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<v Speaker 4>getting into some power.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Rockets League, there's some guys there that are

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<v Speaker 3>worth watching, at least the offensive side, Like there's a

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<v Speaker 3>there's some decent pieces in place, and you know, we're

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<v Speaker 3>not too far away from I think Charlie Condon is

0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:50.720
<v Speaker 3>well joining potentially with Zach Vien. So I think it

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<v Speaker 3>means a bulk platoon guy in Coors and the added

0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:55.119
<v Speaker 3>power plays up and he's able to give you, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, fifteen homer type fifteen to twenty homer production

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<v Speaker 3>as a bulk platoon guy cours. You feel pretty good

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<v Speaker 3>about that. And you've seen the power his first two

0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.120
<v Speaker 3>games he went deep and then he's had a couple.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got hits in four of his five so far

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<v Speaker 3>since getting up there, and I think he's gonna stick him.

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<v Speaker 3>And he seems like he plays a solid corner outfield

0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.879
<v Speaker 3>as well, in which case you're good there. You know

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<v Speaker 3>he's a piece, He's at least a piece in Colorado

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<v Speaker 3>and deserves the chance to play the rest of this

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<v Speaker 3>season and going into next year.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred percent, I think, just to contextualize how much

0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:29.000
<v Speaker 4>harder he's hitting the ball now too, since twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>The start of the twenty twenty four season, Vean's twelve

0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:36.280
<v Speaker 4>hardest exit velocities or twelve highest exivelocities are.

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<v Speaker 1>All from this season.

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<v Speaker 4>Not only does he have his MAX this year, he

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<v Speaker 4>has his twelve maxes this year, And so that's that's

0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Speaker 4>a transformed, you know, hitter physically, and I just included

0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.520
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three as well. That ain't helping his case

0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:54.000
<v Speaker 4>is to be expected. So you can go all the

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<v Speaker 4>way back, I'd say probably from his pro career. This

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<v Speaker 4>is his entire pro career. His twelve highest evs are

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<v Speaker 4>all this season. He's physically different, and I think that's

0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:09.280
<v Speaker 4>a great sign for Van who you know again, could

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<v Speaker 4>it's always always gonna be power over hit, so might

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<v Speaker 4>as well add more power.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, Speaking of teams in the American League that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of want to win but maybe don't, the Astros are

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<v Speaker 3>scrapping together pitching, They're they're doing what they can. They've

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<v Speaker 3>had a couple guys coming up. Ethan Peko is set

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<v Speaker 3>to make his debut tomorrow on Wednesday the nineteenth, as

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<v Speaker 3>we speak here and then Miguel Yolo is an interesting

0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:34.119
<v Speaker 3>one who's transitioned from starting into primarily relieving now got recalled.

0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.280
<v Speaker 3>He's made a couple like spot appearances for them this year,

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<v Speaker 3>but both those guys now joining Houston down the stretcher

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<v Speaker 3>as they continue to just kind of put in different

0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 3>arms than stockpile as they can and make it work.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're winning a division right now somehow, which is

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<v Speaker 3>crazy because it didn't seem like earlier in the year

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<v Speaker 3>they had any shot too. But they're they're in the

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<v Speaker 3>lead in the aos and they're they're making a good

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<v Speaker 3>run at it, and they add two young pitchers to the mix.

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<v Speaker 3>Not sure how much these guys factor in, but I

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<v Speaker 3>am curious what you think about if these two can

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<v Speaker 3>at least be a piece to making the pitching war

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<v Speaker 3>in Houston.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean all hands on deck, right, and I

0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:07.040
<v Speaker 4>think at least in this instance, like these are a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of guys that do have the goods to help them.

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<v Speaker 4>Peco Is is really progressed nicely. The Astros, like their

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<v Speaker 4>system is always towards the bottom, at least over the

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<v Speaker 4>last handful of years, but they have had some some

0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:23.840
<v Speaker 4>intriguing arms, especially the last year or so.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about Meyer as well, what he's been able

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<v Speaker 1>to do.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, you throw the surface of era kind

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<v Speaker 4>of out the window when we're talking about the pcl

0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.760
<v Speaker 4>and that's where Peco has been thrown. But he's a

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<v Speaker 4>guy that does a good feel to pitch and it's

0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:42.840
<v Speaker 4>a pretty deceptive delivery. It's kind of a flat approach angle,

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<v Speaker 4>below average release height, and he.

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<v Speaker 1>Gets pretty far out there horizontally.

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<v Speaker 4>So I am interested to see, like if that, even

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<v Speaker 4>though he's not a huge strikeout guy, if that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of correlates to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Being a barrel misser.

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<v Speaker 4>There's also a lot of different pitches that he will

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<v Speaker 4>go to, Like he's got from that kind of more

0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:05.040
<v Speaker 4>horizontal release, the four seamer, a sink or a change up,

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 4>a cut or a slider, and a curveball, and so

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:10.119
<v Speaker 4>he could just kind of change his looks. He's got

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty good feel for all these pitches, and I

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<v Speaker 4>could see Pecko being a decent swingman and potentially a

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<v Speaker 4>back end the rotation starter that can kind of spot

0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 4>start for you. Again, the swing and miss hasn't totally

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<v Speaker 4>been there as he's just for whatever reason this season,

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<v Speaker 4>but I still think he's been effective enough. And you know,

0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 4>where the Astros can kind of take whatever endings they

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:30.720
<v Speaker 4>can get.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he can give them decent innings. The really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting one.

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<v Speaker 4>Is MIGUELI Yola, because I mean it's one of my

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<v Speaker 4>favorite it's been one of my favorite fastballs. He just

0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 4>sprays it, though, but it's crazy run and ride. He

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 4>really stays behind the baseball. And it's one where like

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 4>when he's commanding it, he can throw the fastball seventy

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<v Speaker 4>percent of the time and you'll be in trouble just

0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:57.440
<v Speaker 4>because of the life that it features. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like twenty inches avert from a below average release side.

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<v Speaker 1>He's getting an elite, elite carry and he works down

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<v Speaker 1>the mound really well.

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 4>It's just it's really hard for him to uh to

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<v Speaker 4>consistently land and I said run and ride, it's more

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 4>of like just just threw ride behind the baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the one where, like I think he has

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:19.400
<v Speaker 1>a leverage stuff Withola.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just he's got to throw strikes and I just

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 4>don't know if he he will consistently enough. But again,

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:29.160
<v Speaker 4>the life that his fastball has gives him a really

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 4>strong foundation, and then he's got a cutter, slider, curveball

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 4>off of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just he doesn't go to those with a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of confidence.

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<v Speaker 4>And the walk rate seems to always kind of creep

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:42.399
<v Speaker 4>up there for him, though it's been a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>better this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what the usage exactly

0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 3>will be for Uston down the stretch, and like how

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 3>they're going to deploy things. It looks like, I mean,

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 3>if Pecko's sliding into the rotation, obviously Hunter Brown, Christian

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Javier Peter Lambert hate him, was nesky, and then Peco

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 3>right now is in that five spot, and then the

0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 3>pen I mean, Tsuyama is still question mark, right, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it seems a little unclear what's gonna happen with

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.399
<v Speaker 3>his plan going forward. And then you've got a Yola

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 3>like other than Josh Ader and obviously Brian Brado, I

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 3>know he hasn't in the best year, but still, like, well,

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:14.159
<v Speaker 3>Yola seems like a guy who could, again if he

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 3>threw strikes, could quickly rise into a pretty decent leverage situation.

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 3>He's not closing games for them, but like it seems

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 3>like someone who could make his way into some pretty

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<v Speaker 3>big spots for them in September and potentially October.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if he's hot.

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<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, I mean, the fastball has a thirty three

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<v Speaker 4>percent with rate, the slider has a forty five percent

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 4>with rate, and and you know, just it's really hard

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 4>to separate the two out of his hand. And then

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:40.679
<v Speaker 4>even even the cutter as a bridge is effective, so

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 4>he could overwhelm hitters. I mean, the average EGX velocity

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 4>against his fastball's eighty four moss per hour with a

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:50.640
<v Speaker 4>seventeen percent hard hit rate. So when you're a verty

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 4>fastball guy that no one's even ever barrowing, really that

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.840
<v Speaker 4>bodes really well. It's just can you can you throw

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:00.199
<v Speaker 4>enough strikes? And they've kind of used a Yola in

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 4>this swingman role, so you wonder like if it's single

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 4>ending relief and maybe he'll be a little bit more you.

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Know, within the zone.

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 4>But this is a ride the hot hand thing, and

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 4>if he's throwing more strikes and it has a stretch

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:14.239
<v Speaker 4>of throwing a lot of strikes, he could be very

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:15.719
<v Speaker 4>useful for this Astros bullpen.

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 3>So, and two of his outings, like he had these

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 3>two like two outing spurts where he was really good,

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 3>and then his last outing in the bigs in July

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 3>he struggled more. But like I do think they'll let

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 3>him let it rip potentially and then see how it

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 3>fits into that pen mix and then you go from

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<v Speaker 3>there and Pecko, like like you said, if he can

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:33.160
<v Speaker 3>just be a decent back end guy who can stick

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 3>around and give you innings like that, that's more than

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:36.400
<v Speaker 3>they've gotten from some of their other pitchers this year.

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 3>So I think you feel great about that if he

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 3>can even just hold down the five spot the rest

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:41.679
<v Speaker 3>of the season potentially well.

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 4>And Peter Lambert he's a better version of it, obviously,

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 4>but no one knew that coming in. Peter Lambert's kind

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 4>of a similar archetype to Peco or it's just nothing

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 4>jumps off the page, but it's you know, a ton

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 4>of different offerings that you know, move in different directions,

0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.160
<v Speaker 4>and he when he's executing like he's really tough.

0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 1>And Lambert's turned into a phenomenal season.

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 4>So maybe kind of following a similar blueprint and Pecko

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 4>can maybe outperform maybe some of the surface level expectations.

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 3>One last big league call up to discuss here, and

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 3>that is Brett Callahan of the Detroit Tigers organization. I

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 3>can't say I know much about Brett Callahan. I don't

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 3>because thirteenth round pick I had a Saint Joseph's back

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.200
<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty three by the Tigers. I just watched

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 3>him come through with a clutchet against the White Sox

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 3>this weekend and then followed it with a nice RBI

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 3>knock against the Pirates as well, two games in. It

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:32.919
<v Speaker 3>seems like he couldn't be a little bit of just

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 3>a you know, versatile outfielder added to the mix in Detroit.

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how much run he's gonna get. Honestly,

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 3>we'll see if he's you know, a everyday player for them.

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 3>With the Riley Green injury, with other things they've been

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 3>going through on that roster. Seems like he's there to

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 3>fill a role and had two nice starts to his career.

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 3>So curious to see how much Brett Callahan continues to

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 3>factor into the mix for Detroit.

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, this is the one thing that you

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:56.400
<v Speaker 4>got to give Scott Harris and just kind of the Tigers.

0:27:56.440 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 4>It's like even the lesser prospects that you're not very

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 4>aware of like end up either just popping up and

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 4>helping you or like serving a forty man role.

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>And like we'll see if if Callahan ultimately does that.

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 4>But it's a guy that was not really being paid

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 4>attention to a ton going into this year. Put up

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 4>a pretty good year as a twenty three year old,

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 4>and Hi a last year was banged up and then

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 4>just puts up a great season in Double A, plays

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 4>his way up to Triple A and he was only

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 4>up there for thirty six games, but you know, held

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 4>his own and they had a new heat, and Callahan

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 4>comes up and has.

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Filled in with some comfort. You think about Valencia in order.

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 4>Valencia like that was a guy that I kind of

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 4>was confused as to why he was added to the

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 4>Tigers forty man and protected from the rule five when

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 4>he was, and he's been a huge, you know, contributor

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 4>for them of late. So these guys that they you know,

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 4>and you wonder what Max Anderson's ultimately en end up

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 4>being and probably a nice little.

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Role player for them and how you lean whatever it

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>may be.

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 4>So there just seems to be a lot of those

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 4>kind of afterthought prospects, some more than others that end

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 4>up coming up and filling a role and developing nicely.

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 4>And Callahan's got giving you speed uptick in power this year.

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't know where he ultimately, you know, lands he

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 4>might be more of like a second division regular type

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 4>or or or more depth. But the fact that he

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 4>has a chance to be that is a guy that

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 4>wasn't really in you know, the top prospect list or

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 4>anything like that this year is exciting and ultimately, you know,

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 4>you look at the left handed swing, it's kind of

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 4>fun and easy to get excited about. I think is

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 4>that he controls his zone really well, like eighty eight

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 4>percent zone contact right this season, and you know, he

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 4>could be a fine piece for them with decent bat speed.

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not sure that Tigers fans were expecting a

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 3>starting outfield of Brett Callahan, Next Clark and Zach McKinstry

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 3>at this time of year, but you know, you roll

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 3>with what you've got. It's been an interesting year and

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 3>they're they're still in the mix. Speaking of Ale teams, like,

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 3>I know, the White Sox swept them this weekend, but

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 3>even then, I even as a White Sox person who

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 3>follows it carefully, I'm not counting the Tigers out by

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 3>any means. I do the This team is still has

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 3>the talent and if they really got in a role

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 3>they would they could.

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Still have a shot.

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 3>And Callahan sometimes you need a little infusion of some

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 3>life and see what this guy gives you. And he's

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 3>doing a fine job. And I think he's going to

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 3>keep getting some reps out there, at least with the

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 3>current roster construction to have.

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I mean he's always shown too like you

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 4>can compete. So when you have healthy guys back healthy whatever,

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 4>and just if guys go back down again, like you've

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 4>got an updown guy that can you know, go out

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 4>there and fill a role.

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's get into some minor league guys, and we'll

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 3>start it off with Ethan Salas Ethan Sallas. They were

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 3>a little bit delayed on this one. We didn't get

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 3>to this one whenever he actually did get promoted to

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Triple A, which was I think two weeks ago. Maybe

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 3>he was right in there on the deadline that probably

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 3>caught our attention primarily, But Ethan Sallas gets promoted from

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 3>double to triple and in his first fourteen games at

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 3>the Triple A level as a twenty year old catcher,

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 3>by the way, one sixty nine WRC plus. He's hitting

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 3>three seventy seven since getting promoted to the Triple A level,

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 3>three homers, the walk grates higher in the strikeout rate.

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 3>He has taken his you know, pretty solid season in

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Double A and is looking even better in Triple A.

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 3>And there's a chance we see a twenty year old

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 3>catcher debut in the big leagues this year, which would

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 3>be were he crazy.

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 4>Nothing would surprise me at this point, especially with just

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 4>the way Prowler is and you know, especially if someone

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 4>goes down, I think it.

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Becomes a no brainer at that point.

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 4>But I am interested to see how they navigate the

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 4>catching position because you know, camp Pisano has been amazing

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 4>offensively for me and is you know, I guess does

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 4>a decent job defensively and bring some other things to

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 4>the table. But yeah, you never know, especially if one

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 4>of them goes down, because I do think, like, you know,

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 4>Salas is going to defend. You know, he's way ahead

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 4>of his years in terms of the way he goes

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 4>about his business. And like, if you haven't listened to

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 4>the interview that we had with him, you know during

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 4>the Futures game, go check that out. There's a reason

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 4>why the padres on top of a J. Preller being

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 4>the most impatient executive in baseball. The bigger reason why

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 4>that they've pushed Salas like this because he's built to

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 4>be able to do it mentally, and now you're seeing

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, physically, he's got a ninety percent zone contact

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 4>rate this year and eighty six percent overall contact rate.

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>So, like, the big thing with with Salas has.

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 4>Been the uptick and power and what we've seen this season,

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 4>and maybe if he gets up, you know, to the

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 4>big leagues at the end of this year, like the

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 4>early next year, that power may not shine through immediately,

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 4>but he's going to defend. He's not going to chase much,

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 4>and he's going to put bad on ball. And so

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 4>if you've got a guy that's giving you good abs,

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 4>whether that turns into super high level production or you know,

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 4>just competitive abs that I think give him a floor

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 4>of at least slightly below average production and the defense

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 4>that he brings to the table. There is a player

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 4>that even if the final stages of his development are

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 4>being had and in the big leagues, I still think

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 4>he's going to be a net positive player behind the dish.

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:50.479
<v Speaker 4>So that's where I get really excited about Salas. His

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 4>floor is as high as anybody's in the minor leagues,

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 4>especially now that he's running a freaking eighty six percent

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 4>contact rate as a nineteen slash twenty year old at

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 4>the upper levels this year and now you throw him

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 4>in the PCL, like the numbers are just going to

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 4>continue to be ridiculous. He's he's at the point now

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 4>where it's just like the final checkpoints just going to

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 4>be the big leaks and maybe getting into the power

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 4>slightly more consistently. But we've seen the raw power increase

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 4>its on, we've seen the home run output increase this year,

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 4>and and you know it's it's easy to buy into

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 4>the potential that he has.

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Impact wise, Yeah, and.

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Look, I get it. Luis Ko Pisano has been solid

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 3>and good, not even solid, he's been very very solid,

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 3>very good for the last two months. When's the lesson

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 3>the Padres had like a starting catcher that like got

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 3>you really excited.

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>About yeah, and on like both sides of the ball, on.

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 3>Both sides of the ball, like an overall, like the

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 3>Padres have a good starting catcher. It's been it's been

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 3>a bit. It's been a bit. So That's where I'm like,

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 3>with solid, like it's easy to get excited and I

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 3>obviously you hope they don't rush him, and you hope

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 3>it's not like too early. At the same time, though,

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 3>like he is no doubt going to be the most

0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 3>exciting Padres starting catcher in quite some time, which gives

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 3>reason to like, if they're making a playoff postion, they

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 3>look like they're gonna be in the postseason, Like it

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 3>really wouldn't shock me as much as it sounds crazy

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 3>in theory. It'd be like, oh, he's twenty thirty games

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 3>into his triple A career and he's going to be

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 3>on a playoff team starting behind the plane at twenty

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 3>years old. Like it's a little crazy, but like he's

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 3>very he's a mature guy, as you mentioned earlier, Like

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 3>he was very clear when you were talking to him

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 3>in the futures game, like the guy is above is

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 3>ahead of his years mentally and physically. Of course obviously physically,

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 3>but also just from the mental side of the game

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.000
<v Speaker 3>and understanding catching, being able to work with pitchers, Like

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 3>I do think there's a real shot that he gets

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.359
<v Speaker 3>up and either way though he's on a crash course

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 3>for being a big league you know, regular next season

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 3>and as a twenty one year old.

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's and he's even said like he feels like

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 4>he could be better in the catch and throat apartment,

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 4>Like he could be more accurate this season, and he's

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.280
<v Speaker 4>thrown out twenty four percent of base dealers.

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 1>So like.

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 2>It.

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be in fun to see how they handle him.

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 4>And the fact, I mean, the PCL is just going

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 4>to be a cakewalk, I think with how much contact

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 4>he already makes and the fact he's walking more than

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 4>he strikes out through fourteen games and hitting three seventy

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:00.439
<v Speaker 4>seven backs.

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:00.839
<v Speaker 2>That up.

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's take one more quick break and then we'll

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:11.399
<v Speaker 3>get into our last few promotions. We got a few

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 3>more promotions here to talk about on the call up.

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 3>We'll start with a pair of brewers. You mentioned it

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 3>off the top of the BLOXI Shuckers, just to keep

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 3>on replenishing that team. Whenever someone goes up to Triple A,

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.320
<v Speaker 3>they get more talent coming up the system. Two big

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 3>time guys now heading to Double A in the Lease

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Pena and Brailing Pain. Both these guys have had really

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 3>impressive seasons at the high level. They've been mashing dark

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 3>the year. Paanya obviously has dealt with some physical stuff,

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 3>some health issues this season, so hasn't had a full

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:40.399
<v Speaker 3>Seasonly about fifty games so far from Pena, whereas pain

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:43.839
<v Speaker 3>has really started to put together his power upside as

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 3>twenty three homers so far at the high level this year.

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Both these guys heading to Double A. Now Paine is

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:53.439
<v Speaker 3>still nineteen years old, Pain is just turned twenty years old,

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 3>So basically a pair of teenagers now for the Brewers

0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:58.360
<v Speaker 3>heading up to that Double A team joining Hays, Suspinet

0:35:58.400 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 3>and other guys up there.

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is fun.

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 4>I mean Painia and and just back together is so

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 4>much fun. But I think the challenge for both of

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:12.319
<v Speaker 4>these players because Pinia look back to ball wise, he's

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 4>got it right and we've seen the contact skills, but

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:18.400
<v Speaker 4>you know he's aggressive. I want to see him slug

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 4>a little bit more too, because he's got the bat speed,

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 4>but he gets a little armsy with his swing and

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.280
<v Speaker 4>I think it can make it hard sometimes to airpole

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 4>and he can kind of catch stuff deeper and it's

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 4>a lot of more more hard ground balls and shooting

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:31.320
<v Speaker 4>stuff the other way.

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 1>So that's something I do want to see get better.

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 4>But I think for Pania, like this is a challenge

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 4>in the respect that like, hey, he chases like thirty

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 4>five percent of the time that could exploit it a

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:42.839
<v Speaker 4>little bit more in double A.

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>Which is a good thing.

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 4>The Brewers want their prospects, like especially guys like this,

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 4>to struggle a little bit so that they can, you know,

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 4>make the adjustments going into next season. And I do

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 4>think that both of these guys, yeah, I look, I

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 4>would never I wouldn't be surprised if they keep rolling.

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:57.320
<v Speaker 4>But if I had to guess, I think both of

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 4>them are going to struggle a little bit in double A.

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 4>That's a good thing, and then they'll be ready to

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 4>go for next season. You mentioned how young both are.

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 4>Painia probably more likely to just keep swinging it. It

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't surprise me Pain. It's just other worldly tools and

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 4>upside and the fact that this guy's you know, hit

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 4>the ball as hard as he has this year, with

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 4>the speed that he.

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Brings to the table.

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we've seen homers north of one fifteen from

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 4>Brayln Pain, but it's kind of a swatty swing and

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 4>he tends to step in the bucket and pull off

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 4>and I think it really affects him left on left,

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 4>and I think this is something that the Brewers are

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 4>aware will probably need to be like cleaned up and rectified.

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>But how do you do that before he struggles?

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 4>Like, how do you tell Brayln Pain to some a

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 4>justice swing when he's popping one fifteen's pool side and

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 4>he's a nine to thirty two ops with twenty three bombs, Like, it's.

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 1>Going to be hard to do that. And I will say, like,

0:37:58.280 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 1>it's off to a good starting double A.

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 4>He's played two games so far and he's already tripled

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 4>and you know, so maybe he doesn't hit that adversity

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 4>this year, who knows.

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 1>At the end of this year.

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 4>I think ultimately he's gonna need to, you know, kind

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 4>of improve his direction a little bit more. But the

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 4>fact that he's already taken the big step Pain has

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 4>this year and using the ground better, like using his

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 4>base overall better, I think the next tweak will probably

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 4>come in the spring and in the offseason, and that's

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 4>where you'll start to see. Yeah, I think just a

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 4>little bit more contact because with Pain, that's kind of

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 4>the final piece here to sixty five percent contact, right,

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 4>like that's gonna be it's a little bit too low obviously,

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 4>even for a player with his power. So just kind

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 4>of finding a little bit more barrel depth, being able

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 4>to I think have just a cleaner path and also

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:44.359
<v Speaker 4>not leave the ball with the front side will help.

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 4>And then ending with painia, there's just some simple things

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 4>to not simple, but some small things to clean up

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:51.320
<v Speaker 4>as well. And I think you feel like double A

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 4>is typically the test for that, when you have some

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 4>mechanical inefficiencies, that's usually where they'll get exposed.

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for both these guys, it feels like a scenario

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 3>where like they're going to be there the year. They'll

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 3>probably start there right again next year, but they'll they'll

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 3>see kind of what this looks like over the next month, right,

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:06.800
<v Speaker 3>you get this final month of the season in double

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 3>and then you can kind of identify the areas that

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 3>they'll need to go in the off season. Working on

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 3>go off of their pain is just fascinating because, like

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 3>you said, there's there's clearly some things you've noted with

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 3>like his just his swing is operation maximizing, but like

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 3>the pure raw speed and raw power combo is like

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 3>is up there with like almost any prospect in baseball really.

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you look at a guy with he's over

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 3>twenty homers and twenty bags this year, it's probably you know,

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 3>you could argue it's sixty grade plus of both raw

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 3>and and speed as well, like I think it's it

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 3>might be higher than that.

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 4>Honestly, it might be dual seventies man's fifteen.

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 3>So that's where it just gets enticing. And that's the

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 3>type of guy that I'm willing to like get a

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 3>little fired up about it and get excited about because

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 3>I just I think there's still there's when you can

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:52.359
<v Speaker 3>point like this is an area where like he needs

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 3>to get better with overall contact and the efficiency of

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.720
<v Speaker 3>a swing, but he's already popping one fifteens and running

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 3>the way he runs, and also playing like a primary

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 3>he's playing primary center field right as well, so it's

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 3>like he's playing centerfield every day. Hasn't played a single

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:07.400
<v Speaker 3>game right in anywhere other than center this year. So

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 3>that that all of those tools and ingredients gets you

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:12.839
<v Speaker 3>another really high upside prospect. I know, he's like kind

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 3>of on the border your top one hundred, I think

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 3>when you're working through this list right now, which will

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 3>be interesting, but he's still from an upside standpoint, is

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 3>pretty enticing, even though he's buried behind some other guys

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 3>in that system.

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know what's funny is, you know, you look

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 4>at you list all of those things out with Brown

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:31.319
<v Speaker 4>Pain strengths, weaknesses, you know what he ultimately like could

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 4>look like. And they've got basically that at the big

0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 4>league level. Like the template's there Garrett Mitchell, and he's

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:40.359
<v Speaker 4>got a lot a lot of time to you know,

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 4>be better than Garrett Mitchell, right, Like, and he already

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 4>airpoles better than Garrett Mitchell. But Garrett Mitchell's kind of

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.359
<v Speaker 4>the archetype there, right, I mean, like he's gonna whif

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 4>as much as anybody in the game, but he absolutely flies.

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 4>We're talking about ninety eight percent house sprint speed and

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 4>he hits the shit out of the ball like it's

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 4>it's ninety two point five mile per hour average ECX

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:04.319
<v Speaker 4>of all and average batspeed in the ninety eighth percentile.

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 4>So it's a very similar archetype and a guy that

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 4>can go get it defensively, which I think Pain is

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:11.240
<v Speaker 4>going to continue to develop to be a good center fielder.

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 4>So it's interesting, like I think you have that archetype

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 4>up there at the big league level with more time

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 4>to try to squeeze out a higher ceiling.

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's an exciting guy for sure. Talk about another

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 3>exciting guy from an upside standpoint. Justin Gonzales of the

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 3>Red Sox organization is heading up to Double A. We

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 3>just heard about this, I think yesterday or two days ago.

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:31.880
<v Speaker 3>He hasn't debuted yet in double but I think he

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.280
<v Speaker 3>should be debuting there as we're recording your Tuesday afternoon.

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 3>It should be tonight his Double A debut. Gonzalez has

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 3>had a great season at the high level. Is still

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 3>a nineteen year old who I know is also set

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:43.840
<v Speaker 3>to be a top one hunder guy I believe in

0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 3>the Boston organ someone who they you know, they bought

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 3>at the deadline, but they didn't move Gonzales and he's

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 3>sticking around and now he's getting a Double A at

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:50.439
<v Speaker 3>nineteen years old.

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is another one where I'm really excited for

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 4>the test because you know, he hits the living crap

0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 4>out of the baseball big kid six, five to ten.

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 4>But when you look at Justin Gonzalez's swing, you would

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 4>assume that the strikeout rate would be.

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Higher, and it's not.

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 4>And I think that's a testament to his feel for

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 4>the barrel and you know, just simple moves overall.

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 1>In the box. But I do wonder.

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 4>If that could get exploited a little bit more against

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 4>stronger competition, And similar to the conversation with like with

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 4>Joshua Bayaz, where I think you could you can kind

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 4>of tie him up inside. I'm just interested to see

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 4>because I think, you know, double A pitchers will start

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 4>to do that a little bit more frequently and then

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:36.399
<v Speaker 4>can that set stuff up away. But Gonzalez says, again,

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 4>a pretty good feel for the barrel for a guy

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 4>as big as he is, and he absolutely pulverizes baseball.

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 4>So we've seen him hip post one sixteen at nineteen

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 4>years old, so I think there's like some simple changes

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 4>for him too, Like I think just getting the barrel

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 4>more vertically, more vertical for him and his hands not

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 4>maybe so far away from his body could kind of

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 4>help him be a bit more efficient and turn things

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:59.479
<v Speaker 4>around on the inner part of the plate. But again,

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 4>another player that hasn't really seen a ton of adversity,

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:05.879
<v Speaker 4>and probably he's not going to make a major change

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:08.839
<v Speaker 4>until he does. The biggest thing I can't escape when

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 4>I watch him, though, is it looks like you can

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.840
<v Speaker 4>really tie him up. So if that's something that he

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 4>can you know fend off that's obviously going to help

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:22.240
<v Speaker 4>his case aton because there's no questioning the raw power,

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:24.839
<v Speaker 4>and for a guy with his raw power, there seems

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:27.360
<v Speaker 4>to be a pretty good overall field to make contact.

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do you what are some of the things, like

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 3>do you have tangible things? Because I think that is

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:35.760
<v Speaker 3>it's not an uncommon thing for especially powerful young guys

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 3>to get tied up inside, right. Is there is there

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 3>one or two things you mentioned the barrel? Obviously? Is

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 3>there other things you think that he could do like

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 3>him just players in general tous and kind of counteract

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:46.320
<v Speaker 3>that little like getting stuck in the inside pitches.

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 4>It's it's funny, I think I think it's case by case.

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 4>I think in Gonzales's case it still just is a

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 4>pretty armsy swing. And I think the armsier you get, like,

0:43:57.440 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 4>the harder it is to be able to turn that

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:02.840
<v Speaker 4>pitch around on the inner half. And you know, these

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 4>longer levered guys to just naturally it's gonna be a challenge.

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 4>He's six' five with he might be taller than that.

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.880
<v Speaker 4>NOW i think he's closer to six seven with.

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>With long long.

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:17.759
<v Speaker 4>Limbs if you're not super super efficient and your arms

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:18.359
<v Speaker 4>are a lot more.

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Involved like think about Like Aaron.

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 4>Judge he's so tight to his body and and really

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:27.240
<v Speaker 4>just turns the barrow so efficiently and effectively that allows

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 4>him to just kind of crush stuff. Inside when you're

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:32.279
<v Speaker 4>a little bit more armsy or even just like kind

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:33.399
<v Speaker 4>of handsy, too with.

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>That long of, levers, uh it.

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 4>Might help you make a little bit more, contact you,

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 4>know and stuff away and be a little bit more.

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 4>Adjustable but AND i think he's able to kind of

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:45.040
<v Speaker 4>fence some stuff off, inside BUT i think it's hard

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:48.719
<v Speaker 4>for him to to avoid being tied up in, there

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:50.880
<v Speaker 4>and So i'm interested to see it might just be

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 4>a challenge he has to to deal. With BUT i

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 4>always get worried about those guys getting sped up a

0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 4>little bit.

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:56.880
<v Speaker 1>More And gonzalez has been a guy that tended to

0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:58.440
<v Speaker 1>tend tends to chase a little bit.

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:01.279
<v Speaker 4>More but when he gets his his arms out there

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 4>and when he's able to catch the ball further out,

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 4>front he destroys, them like absolutely destroys. Them so you,

0:45:08.120 --> 0:45:09.840
<v Speaker 4>know there may be a little bit of needing to

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:11.759
<v Speaker 4>catch it out, front being a little bit more, aggressive

0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:13.880
<v Speaker 4>and that may result in a little bit more With

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 4>but if that allows him to get into his power,

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:19.320
<v Speaker 4>consistently that could. Work he may also just have to

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 4>lay off of your hard stuff, inside and if that's located,

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 4>consistently that's how you beat him. AGAIN i Just i'm

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:28.760
<v Speaker 4>excited to see how he responds to that in DOUBLE,

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 4>a because it just it just does seem like that

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:33.280
<v Speaker 4>would be the thing that could limit. Him but stuff, away,

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 4>man like he can crush, it and stuff that you

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.400
<v Speaker 4>know is hanging or that he's able to still just

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:40.319
<v Speaker 4>catch further out, front it's getting hit.

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Hard, yeah that makes a lot of. SENSE i think

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 3>it'll be one. Monitor but, again like he's so young

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 3>and has so much time on his side already getting

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 3>to double a'll finish the year there at nineteen and

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 3>go into next year as a young twenty year old

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:53.839
<v Speaker 3>in DOUBLE a probably so a guy that'll be very

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:55.959
<v Speaker 3>cool to. Watch And, yeah like we've talked about a million,

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 3>Times DOUBLE a is kind of that that point where these,

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.839
<v Speaker 3>guys like the guys who get through minors and they

0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 3>rake their way through the lower, levels they get to

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:04.359
<v Speaker 3>DOUBLE a and they usually got to adjust some things

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:06.319
<v Speaker 3>and challenge and that'll be what this offseason looks like For.

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 4>Gonzales, yeah, absolutely AND i think it's just like one other,

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 4>Note like it's not bad numbers AGAINST, vlo but like

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 4>the quality of, contact like average ex velosity of eighty

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 4>six miles per hour against ninety four, Plus like that's

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 4>what you're going to see mostly the big.

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Globle it's a seven eighty eight.

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:22.879
<v Speaker 4>Ohps but you know when that ninety four plus now

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 4>is located a little bit, More, yeah how do?

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>You how do you handle?

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.840
<v Speaker 4>It, also that chase rate creeps to almost forty percent

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 4>against ninety four, Plus so it's another. Player i'm Just

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:34.839
<v Speaker 4>i'm really excited for the DOUBLE a challenge and then

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 4>see how he can maybe come back next year.

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:40.759
<v Speaker 3>Too last guy up on this Call ups And promotions

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:44.440
<v Speaker 3>check in episode Of Grady, emerson man number two overall,

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 3>pick will make his minor league, debut Not Bridge, league

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 3>but its official minor league debut this. Week The raider

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 3>are sending him To SINGLE. A, obviously no games to

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 3>talk about are From, grady but, like as you're doing

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:56.400
<v Speaker 3>your your prep for the top one hund you're working through,

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 3>it what are some things you're just like looking forward

0:46:58.200 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 3>to seeing for you, Know it's only gonna be a

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks of games here For, grady but still

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 3>will be cool to see him make his.

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:04.880
<v Speaker 4>Debut, YEAH i think just just seeing him in that

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 4>game setting, consistently because it's just such a, fun well

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:12.840
<v Speaker 4>rounded game that you, KNOW i don't think one little

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 4>clip or highlight is going to be the best way

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:18.399
<v Speaker 4>to Appreciate Grady. Emerson so just being able to see

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 4>him play day and day, out even if it's just

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 4>for a few weeks TO i want.

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 1>TO i really want to see the defensive side of.

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:24.839
<v Speaker 4>Things SO i think he doesn't get enough credit for

0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 4>his athleticism there because he's really just a smooth. Mover

0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:29.000
<v Speaker 4>BUT i think he's a little bit more athletic than

0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 4>he gets credit. FOR i think seeing how he controls

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 4>his abs because it's such a good feel to. Hit

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 4>it's such a good feel for the zone for where

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 4>he's at, Already LIKE i JUST i want to see

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:42.440
<v Speaker 4>twenty thirty forty at bats so WHERE i can really

0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 4>enjoy it Because i've watched all the amateur abs and,

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.239
<v Speaker 4>whatever but like seeing it against professional stuff is going

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 4>to be. Great LIKE i already know really like the

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 4>swing and where it's at for his, age really like the.

0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 4>Projectability think the glove looks solid at, shortstop but you,

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:59.279
<v Speaker 4>know just against professional, arms you, know how does it.

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 4>Look i'm excited to see BECAUSE i think across the,

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:05.600
<v Speaker 4>board it's all these it's above average across the, board

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.719
<v Speaker 4>and you feel a lot more confident in that assessment

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:11.279
<v Speaker 4>on an amateur when you get a chance to those

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 4>well rounded types to see, them you know in a professional.

0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Setting, Yeah, NO i think it's gonna be cool to.

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 3>See obviously we've started to see you, know we've Seen rock,

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Debut we've Seen Von lackey. Debut So grandy'll be the

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 3>next one, up which will be. Cool i'm looking forward

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:26.000
<v Speaker 3>to just get more of these. Guys the draft guys

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:27.200
<v Speaker 3>are always fun and at the end of the, day

0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:28.719
<v Speaker 3>LIKE i think we've talked about this a little, bit

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:32.399
<v Speaker 3>like the the end of, season especially with the draft

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:35.719
<v Speaker 3>BEING midgeli now the guys like there's not really like

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 3>you're not making big adjustments in this like last two

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:40.439
<v Speaker 3>months of the. SEASON a lot of it's just getting

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 3>these guys run and LIKE i think with guys like

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:44.120
<v Speaker 3>grading with guys even you, know we talked about it

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:46.359
<v Speaker 3>With rock and swing changes that are probably coming from

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 3>The White sox toward like these high end draft, Picks

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<v Speaker 3>like if they were debuting after their draft, year they're

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<v Speaker 3>not really doing much other than just the experience of,

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 3>it getting their feet, wet seeing how they feel in,

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:59.480
<v Speaker 3>games getting real live, looks and keeping them. Fresh all the,

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:01.239
<v Speaker 3>adjustments some of the changes we're going to see from

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 3>these players realistically will be in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Offices it's tough, too Because i've talked to some people

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<v Speaker 4>with teams AND i always get the feedback of, like,

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<v Speaker 4>yeah don't take too much from you, know these these pro,

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<v Speaker 4>Debuts like you, know it's not a big, Deal like

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<v Speaker 4>WE'RE i, try we try not, to you, know make any, crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>DON'T i almost don't put much talk at it at.

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<v Speaker 4>All but it's also our first chance to see some

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:24.600
<v Speaker 4>of these guys in a pro setting that it becomes

0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:27.399
<v Speaker 4>difficult to, uh to not take something from. It Like Drew,

0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 4>burris he's popping one to seventeens with metal and you,

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<v Speaker 4>know we have like twenty something bad at balls and

0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 4>he's yet to exceed one oh. Five and the whole

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 4>question with him was like how is he going to

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<v Speaker 4>do with with?

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<v Speaker 1>Wood because he struggled.

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<v Speaker 4>On The, cape and it's like you don't want to

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 4>you don't want to overthink, it you don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>get ahead of.

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<v Speaker 1>Yourself but it's like you don't want to fully ignore it,

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<v Speaker 1>Too so it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting Andrew fisher also had quality of contact concerns in

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:52.879
<v Speaker 4>his brief pro debut last, year AND i don't think

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 4>he's got those. Now so ultimately it's to be taken

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<v Speaker 4>with a grain of. Salt BUT i think especially for

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 4>these high school, guys just to see the way they

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<v Speaker 4>go about their, business see the way they move out,

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<v Speaker 4>there see how comfortable they, ARE i do think is more.

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<v Speaker 1>Revealing some of these college guys are.

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<v Speaker 4>GASSED i was thinking The goove is a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>fun to, watch like to See Rock, scholaski you, know

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<v Speaker 4>with the game speeding up a little bit more, professionally

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 4>how he looks, defensively those things are always fun to

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:19.840
<v Speaker 4>it's a monitor.

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<v Speaker 3>Too on that, NOTE i do think he looks pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>DEFENSIVELY i will say the bats haven't been all, great

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<v Speaker 3>but there's some places he's made it short be very

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<v Speaker 3>impressive to me so, far which we. Expected but it's

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<v Speaker 3>been cool to.

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<v Speaker 4>See, yeah, exactly and it's just the comfort there because

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:33.880
<v Speaker 4>it is a faster, game and it is just the

0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:35.799
<v Speaker 4>ball is coming off a little bit, different and these

0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 4>guys are generally moving up the line, quicker and so

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:40.640
<v Speaker 4>all all those things you, know can can speed up

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<v Speaker 4>a shortstop making their pro.

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<v Speaker 1>Debut SO i think that's all we got for this one.

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<v Speaker 4>Again top one hundred update on the way On, monday

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<v Speaker 4>so keep an eye out for. That we'll be doing

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<v Speaker 4>some other fun check ins later this, week probably good

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<v Speaker 4>for another heat sheet, soon some other fun stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>Up so very much looking forward to.

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<v Speaker 3>full announcement for a little bit later this, week but

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<v Speaker 3>actually later this week we'll be doing some more specific

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