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Speaker 1: Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, Call It crew, and welcome

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Speaker 2: to another episode of Short, Short and sweetet. This one

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Speaker 2: is a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: It's a recap.

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Speaker 2: It's a recap because we had plans for an episode

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Speaker 2: that we were going to do for Short and Sweet,

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Speaker 2: and then Teresa Capoudo happened. Happened to us, Yes, happened

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Speaker 2: to us. Yes, we got Teresa Caputo, We got Caputo.

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Speaker 2: And you guys, if you have not listened to that

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Speaker 2: episode yet, please get to listen to it.

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Speaker 1: You need to immediately necessary listening.

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Speaker 2: It was so wild, and I text Jessica and I said,

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Speaker 2: we can't just leave that episode hanging because there's so

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Speaker 2: much more to discuss, and so we scratched our plan

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Speaker 2: for Short and Sweet. And we've made this a recap

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Speaker 2: of Monday's episode so we can dive in a little bit,

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Speaker 2: recap what happened, the feelings after, the discoveries after and

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Speaker 2: all the things.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I would actually love to take this opportunity

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Speaker 1: to tell you, dear listener, if you have not listened

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Speaker 1: to the Teresa Caputo episode, you need to press pause.

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Speaker 1: We'll be here when you get back, and go straight

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Speaker 1: to that episode. It is a million times worth. Listen

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Speaker 1: and give me so many, so many chills, so many tears,

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Speaker 1: so many yeah, so many tears. So yes, So please

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Speaker 1: trust that does and go back to that. But if

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Speaker 1: you did already, then stay a while and let's get

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Speaker 1: into it.

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Speaker 2: I so I think that we need to start with

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Speaker 2: a little backstory, okay, and I'm going to be really

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Speaker 2: real because we've got to call it what it is.

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Speaker 2: Ye When I was talking to Jazz, I really wanted

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Speaker 2: Teresa on and I've been a fan just you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously like has seen a medium before, she's had that experience.

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Speaker 2: My mom passed away a very very very long time ago,

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Speaker 2: so it's like, oh my god, twenty one years ago.

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Speaker 2: It's been a long time. I've never seen a medium.

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Speaker 2: And what I said was I really want her on

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Speaker 2: the show. It's spooky season. What I don't want, though,

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Speaker 2: is a reading. I thought it would just be too

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Speaker 2: more very clear. I was very clear. I was very adamant.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want that, and so Jessica,

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Speaker 2: of course, supportive, best friend, love her. She was like, yes,

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Speaker 2: I support you. We went to iHeart and we told them,

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Speaker 2: please let Teresa know that this is this because she

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Speaker 2: does different types of interviews. This isn't a reading. This

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Speaker 2: is an interview about her gifts, right, And they were like, great, awesome,

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Speaker 2: she would love to talk about that of course, and

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Speaker 2: you know, offer you guys are reading anytime that you

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Speaker 2: guys really wanted reading.

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Speaker 1: And we had a million questions. We were very clear

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Speaker 1: about the fact that it did not this, So did

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Speaker 1: not hinge on a reading. We didn't need the reading.

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Speaker 1: We were absolutely going to have a very phenomenal episode

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Speaker 1: without any readings.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and if you listen to it, and then okay,

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Speaker 2: so you listened to it. I went and talked to

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Speaker 2: a bunch of people. People were so excited. I had

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Speaker 2: cast on set of grays being like, please ask this,

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Speaker 2: please ask that we anyway halfway through, Teresa did say

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Speaker 2: that she was getting energy from me. That was cautious,

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Speaker 2: which was true. Now she didn't you know, Jessica and

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Speaker 2: I have had these private conversations about how I feel

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Speaker 2: it felt going into it, and Jessica, you have had

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Speaker 2: this experience before, so you were open, which she was

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Speaker 2: She said that she said that, and I explained, this

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Speaker 2: because she said, you know, she had started the interview

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Speaker 2: interview saying, you know some people it's you know, it's

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Speaker 2: intimidating to me with the medium. And I said, yes,

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Speaker 2: truth is in that moment, I was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: You became open.

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Speaker 2: I became open in that moment because I kind of no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no one was. No one was.

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Speaker 2: And what I what I love about Jess is well, Jess,

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Speaker 2: You called me after and you were like I was

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Speaker 1: Over I did. I had a moment when it when it,

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Speaker 1: the close. I thought about this a lot since it,

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Speaker 1: the session. If you will, like, yes, I and we

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Speaker 1: know I like to talk. I had no words, Yeah

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Speaker 1: I was. I felt sort of I felt speechless. I

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Speaker 1: and she was that your mom was there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not.

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Speaker 1: I was a very like fire or flight moment.

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Speaker 2: I did not know what showing up for you as

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Speaker 2: had to take my next best guess because something really

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Speaker 2: powerful was happening. And there was a version where I was,

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Speaker 2: you know, the tried and true best friend that did

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Speaker 2: this and we're not doing this, and then there.

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Speaker 1: Was this higher vibration power energy I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what that was, steering me towards let this go. Trust

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Speaker 1: I'm right here if things go sideways, but like, she's

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Speaker 1: got this, and so I then became sort of like

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Speaker 2: I love that you talked about the energy because Jessica

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Speaker 2: and I, you know us, we can talk and I

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Speaker 2: and we had a laundry list of questions, and halfway

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Speaker 2: through the interview, I felt exactly like Jessica felt. We

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Speaker 2: and they we all felt like this different thing happening

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm talking about just the energy, Like, I don't

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Speaker 1: What was the moment that you felt the energy take over?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So so it's very hard. I'm gonna be very real.

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Speaker 2: It's very hard thinking that you might have a medium

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Speaker 2: google anything about you. So going into this, I had

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Speaker 2: sure google about me, and that's that the last night

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Speaker 2: the last night that I saw my mom, she took

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Speaker 2: So I said to Matt, if that story gets brought up,

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Speaker 2: But like Jessica said, the energy felt palpable, right, yes,

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Speaker 2: We're all on zoom.

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Speaker 1: We had been very clear that we weren't doing readings,

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Speaker 2: Yes, then it was just happening.

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Speaker 1: It was just happening. It was happening. It was you

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons why I wanted to do the

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Speaker 2: recap is she said, she's talked about a tree.

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Speaker 1: She said, there's a tree like you. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: She joked about mapping a landscaper or was there a

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Speaker 2: and I was like, wait, Joey, didn't Dad plant a

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Speaker 2: and onl and even towards the end of the podcast,

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Speaker 2: She's like the tree. Anybody the tree? And so I

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Speaker 2: Theresa know the tree is a real thing. Then she

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Speaker 2: brought up the number seventeen and I was like, nip, no,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't ring about another I ever heard of that number.

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Speaker 1: Skip it when county totally.

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Speaker 2: And then I have I met, I mean, Jessica and

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Speaker 2: I have talked about this too, and I'll talk about

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Speaker 1: I get it, you saw yourself starring in a whole

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Speaker 1: other kind of show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought this is the beginning. You've

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Speaker 2: made a huge mistake. There's a portal now through the computer.

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Speaker 2: The portal has been opened, has been a zoom portal opened,

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Speaker 2: and anything could come in anything the meeting, I d yeah.

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Speaker 1: The path they had, the pass code came on through,

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Speaker 1: they had the mess you up. They've added a filter

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Speaker 1: and they're in. This would be a good time to

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Speaker 1: remind you that the universe, I deeply believe is on

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Speaker 1: our side, that the universe is conspiring to make wonderful

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Speaker 1: things happen for us. And I think that Matt just

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Speaker 1: shut the bed on hanging those branches.

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Speaker 2: I well, I well, because originally I was like, maybe

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Speaker 2: you tied those so tin and he was like, not really,

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Speaker 2: And I went back through pictures and there's literally just

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Speaker 2: like one, the tiniest twig is what he looped around

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Speaker 2: the curtain rod.

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Speaker 1: In your mind, there was gorilla glue involved, guys.

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Speaker 2: But that night I thought, you know, I thought it

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Speaker 2: was like home improvement, like a whole situation, and this

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Speaker 2: had just.

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Speaker 1: Flown off, you know. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so that was the aftermath. But all these

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Speaker 2: I still keep thinking, aboud, you have her on.

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Speaker 1: Again, would you do it? Were you gonna hang out,

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna sign up for your reading? I'm signing

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Speaker 1: up for my reading. I'm gonna have my reading. I'll

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Speaker 1: report back.

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Speaker 2: Well, the truth is is that when I I did

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Speaker 2: ask for another reading and she said she'd be happy

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Speaker 2: to do it, but it's her I didn't realize her

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Speaker 2: readings are on her podcast.

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Speaker 1: Oh what they're not? No super private. Yes, I did

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Speaker 1: think about that after, did you? It did not occur

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Speaker 1: to me? Yeah I did. I didn't. I think an

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Speaker 1: hour I might faint. Yeah, you would no longer be

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Speaker 1: with us. You would crossover.

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Speaker 2: I would cross over, and then I'd be having communicate with.

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Speaker 1: Her how to get back.

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Speaker 2: And so I don't know if I need that public.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we can laugh, we can laugh. I guess

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Speaker 1: what you can get through anything. Everything will be okay

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Speaker 1: in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that we did this together. Me too,

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Speaker 1: Me too.

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Speaker 2: Now, I mean I do think that you know, we

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Speaker 2: need more. I like those episodes because they are just

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Speaker 2: so wild and you really don't know where they're gonna go.

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Speaker 2: But call that crew. I have to say you were

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Speaker 2: with us on this one too, and and we kind

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Speaker 2: of all experienced this together. Would you guys go see

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Speaker 2: a medium? Is there a reason you wouldn't go see

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Speaker 2: a medium? I want to know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. Tell me all your experiences.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to hear. And and I'm so thankful. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: I was not planning on sharing it, and in light

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Speaker 2: of how intimate we've gotten and vulnerable we've gotten on

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Speaker 2: this podcast, it felt right to keep it in. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I once it was done, I was like, crap, do

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Speaker 2: I edit that part out? That was so intense? But

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Speaker 2: but no, it feels like something to share. It was

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Speaker 2: very real and uh and and and again there was

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Speaker 2: more to it afterwards, and and.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, here we are. I love it.

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Speaker 2: I think you should. Yeah, I just I think you

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Speaker 2: should send us out, send out this episode. Yeah, do

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Speaker 2: the sign out, because you're.

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Speaker 1: Losing me. I'm in the portal. She's she's at the

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Speaker 1: portal's head. Is that a thing? A portal head? A

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Speaker 1: brain's got? Second out of our buddies. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: it's been a very impactful, very meaningful episode and experience

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Speaker 1: in our lives, and I'm so happy that we are

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Speaker 1: now recapping it on this short and suite and to

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Speaker 1: that end, I would like to call it the end

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Speaker 1: of this episode Episode