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Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot Com in for Steve Taskers. Steve is

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Speaker 1: back on Monday. Welcome Chris. Good to have you here.

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Speaker 1: And that's you're Bellywick. World Cup socker, Billywick. Sure, what

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Speaker 3: Nothing terribly notable. We've got Messi playing today for Argentina,

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Speaker 3: Right now, Ronaldo has been performing as the best player.

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Speaker 3: After further research, they discovered that it was artificial and

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Speaker 3: What is ten million? Twelve million people at least, I

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, Denmark should have won that game.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, Australia they're just undermanned. They just don't

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Speaker 1: So video replay first year in a World Cup day.

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Speaker 1: Do people complain about replaying soccer as much?

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Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of officiating, some changes in the NFL, and

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so they're changing some head officials, is what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how could I lose this? Albert? How do you

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Speaker 3: Oh he retired.

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Speaker 3: And Hockyly retired too.

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Speaker 3: Pushed out or nudged out or recommended to.

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Speaker 1: I have a friend who does not live in Buffalo

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Speaker 3: Year remembers that a twenty year grudge.

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Speaker 1: held by this man, rookie side judge called. I remember

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Speaker 3: When the side judge and the line judge huddled up

436
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Speaker 3: to discuss the play, andres standing right there because it

437
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Speaker 3: was on the Bill's sideline, and he said he heard

438
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Speaker 3: them clearly say just give it to him. Ye, like,

439
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Speaker 3: did you see it?

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Speaker 4: No?

441
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Speaker 3: Did I see it?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: Was he out of bounds? I'm not sure. Just give

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Speaker 3: it to him. Yeah, And they gave him a first

445
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Speaker 3: down and the drive continued. And then I think it

446
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Speaker 3: was one or two plays later was the Henry Jones

447
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Speaker 3: pass interference in the end zone.

448
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Speaker 1: And the Patriots scored after the Henry.

449
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Speaker 3: Jones and then Wade took him off the field right.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say Wade, in one of his finest hours,

451
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Speaker 1: Wade took him up the field right. They did come

452
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Speaker 1: back out eventually for the extra point.

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Speaker 3: They had to, I think some of them did. But

454
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Speaker 3: we had, like the Bills had like special teams, guys

455
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Speaker 3: lining up on the defensive line because they couldn't get

456
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Speaker 3: Eyody out. The players like, forget it, I'm not coming out,

457
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Speaker 3: and then they throw it to Ben Coates for two points.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They didn't even kick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nineteen ninety eight. Was that a Sunday game or

461
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Speaker 1: a primetime game?

462
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Speaker 3: That's a bush.

463
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Speaker 1: It was a primetime game, wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember. I remember it was dark nineteen ninety

465
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Speaker 3: years Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: Ers put him in late Sunday anyway. Yeah, Terry mccauleys out,

467
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Speaker 1: Uh he was.

468
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Speaker 3: I could not have told you who the rookie back

469
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Speaker 3: judge was though. That is wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Terry McCauley's out in a new official in grudge

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Speaker 1: with a capital ge. Hey, today on our show, here's

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Speaker 1: we want to talk about this. Isn't it amazing? I'm

473
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Speaker 1: amazed by this guy's a good Bills fan. Oh Man

474
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Speaker 1: doesn't even live in Buffalo anymore. I can't tell you

475
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Speaker 1: his name. Our Twitter poll today, this one we want

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Speaker 1: to talk about. We want to talk with you. By

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Speaker 1: the way, the phone line's open eight oh three oh

478
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Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Which Bills offensive player will make

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Speaker 1: their first Pro Bowl this year, not an alternate in

481
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Speaker 1: previous years first Pro Bowl? You can vote on that

482
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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Our Twitter poll is up right now and

483
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Speaker 1: it's fairly close. I think in the early going here

484
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Speaker 1: on Twitter, forty four percent of our respondents we had

485
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Speaker 1: good response so far. Forty four percent say it'll be

486
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Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin is lady to make his first Pro Bowl

487
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Speaker 1: this year. Thirty six percent say second year left tackle

488
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Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins, eleven percent have somebody else in mind, ten

489
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Speaker 1: percent say Charles Clay. Let us know what you think.

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Speaker 1: Lines are open. We've got open phone lines all day

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Speaker 1: here eighth threeh five to fifty outside Buffalo, it's a

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Speaker 1: toll free call. One eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five point fifty. Which Bills offensive player will make their

494
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Speaker 1: first Pro Bowl in twenty eighteen? We talked about defense

495
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Speaker 1: myself and producer Jay Harris, who's back today for vacation.

496
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Speaker 1: We thought people are going to select Tredavius White, right,

497
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Speaker 1: I mean, you should have made it last year. It

498
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Speaker 1: he'd probably be the obvious.

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Speaker 7: There might be others, but if you do offense, it

500
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Speaker 7: takes him out of the mix. Right, So it's offense

501
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Speaker 7: who is going to make their first Pro Bowl? Calvin Benjamin,

502
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Speaker 7: Charles Clay, Dion Dawkins, somebody else. Give us a call

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Speaker 7: eight oh three oh five to fifteen toll free one

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Speaker 7: eight eight eight five fifty two five to fifty.

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Speaker 1: Believe it or not, I like Dawkins. I think Dawkins

506
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Speaker 1: has a good chance. I think he was a solid

507
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Speaker 1: player last year at left tackle for the Bills. YEP.

508
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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have a good running attack again

509
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Speaker 1: this year. And I think with a lot of the

510
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Speaker 1: attention focused on what is missing from the Bills offensive

511
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Speaker 1: line this year, some smart people might start looking at

512
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Speaker 1: who's back and who's playing well, and I think they'll

513
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Speaker 1: probably settle on Dion Dawkins. It's a tough one, but

514
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Speaker 1: I'd probably vote for Deon Dawkins.

515
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Speaker 3: Well, I know you I know Pro Football Focus, because

516
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Speaker 3: we had it noted in Bills Today this week on

517
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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills dot com that in terms of run blocking efficiency,

518
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Speaker 3: Dion Dawkins was in like the top five for that category.

519
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Speaker 3: And I think that's one category that is somewhat overlooked

520
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Speaker 3: because I think when you thought of run blocking for

521
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Speaker 3: the Bills, the first person you thought of was Incognito,

522
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Speaker 3: just because very often he was leading with, you know,

523
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Speaker 3: as the pulling guard up the field. But Dawkins is

524
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Speaker 3: pretty darn good run blocker. I think he established himself

525
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Speaker 3: as a more than capable pass protector, but he's pretty

526
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Speaker 3: darn good in the run game also, so I think

527
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Speaker 3: he's a complete left tackle. He's not good at one

528
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Speaker 3: thing and not the other. He's good at both, and

529
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Speaker 3: he's only scratching the surface of the kind of player

530
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Speaker 3: that he can be with. The thing with offensive linemen

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Speaker 3: that you often find, especially ones that are still trying

532
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Speaker 3: to earn their reputation in the league, is they have

533
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Speaker 3: to usually have one of two things to get Pro

534
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Speaker 3: Bowl kind of recognition. They either have to be so

535
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Speaker 3: ridiculously gifted physically that no one will deny the fact

536
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Speaker 3: that they are a supreme and superior athlete, like Joe

537
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Speaker 3: Thomas out of the Jason Peters y. You know, that

538
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Speaker 3: kind of talent. That's how you get to the Pro Bowl.

539
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Speaker 3: The other way is if you have a running back

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Speaker 3: that has a big season, or you have a quarterback

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Speaker 3: that lights it up, and you're one of the higher

542
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Speaker 3: scoring teams in the league, and then you kind of

543
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Speaker 3: get the benefit of the doubt. You know, not to

544
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Speaker 3: say you're not a good player in your own right,

545
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Speaker 3: but it's almost by association you get the extra support

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Speaker 3: you need to get to the Pro Bowl, and that's

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Speaker 3: what usually happens. So you know, McCoy puts up a

548
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Speaker 3: good season and he does a good job of protecting

549
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Speaker 3: whoever the quarterback is, I think he will get some

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Speaker 3: serious consideration. And you know, he's going against the other

551
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Speaker 3: team's best pass rusher every week. That never hurts. Knowing

552
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Speaker 3: the other teams are the people that are voting for you,

553
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Speaker 3: not your teammates, not your coach. Is so yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think he's I think he's got a very good chance.

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Speaker 3: But you know, Benjamin, I understand why people are voting

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Speaker 3: for him because it's him and a bunch of other

557
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Speaker 3: guys that are largely unproven. So logic would tell you

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Speaker 3: that he should get the most targets. In the passing game,

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Speaker 3: I think the unknown here is just how much are

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Speaker 3: they going to throw. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 3: still are pretty confident in the fact that the offense

562
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Speaker 3: is going to rest on the shoulders of Lashawn McCoy, largely.

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Speaker 3: To what degree will the passing game compliment that? I

564
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Speaker 3: don't know, but I think Benjamin, he may not have

565
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Speaker 3: a sixty to seventy eighty catch season, he may have

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Speaker 3: a ten touchdown season if he stays healthy for all

567
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Speaker 3: sixteen games, and I that could be enough to get

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Speaker 3: him there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think? Give us a call? We

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Speaker 1: got lines open eight oh three zero five point fifty

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Speaker 1: and toll free one eight eight eight five point fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. Whitchville's offensive player will make their first

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl this upcoming season. Twenty eighteen got tweets on

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Speaker 1: it as well from Ryan Mays. I say Dion Dawkins

575
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Speaker 1: because it's extremely hard, given the wide receiver talent in

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Speaker 1: the league for a receiver to make the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And I think Dawkins shines this year. It's just hard

578
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Speaker 1: with the uncertainty at receiver for the Bills, it's hard. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think Calvin Benjamin will be the leader in there,

580
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Speaker 1: But will he have enough catches? Will they have enough

581
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Speaker 1: production in the passing game for him to beat out

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Speaker 1: some of the talented receivers. I mean, you know, there's

583
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Speaker 1: some really good receivers in the AFC, in particular, right right,

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown only take three.

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Speaker 3: I think that's gonna be a tough road to ho

586
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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any debate about that. I was

587
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Speaker 3: trying to think off the top of my head of

588
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Speaker 3: left tackles in the AFC, that would be chief competition

589
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Speaker 3: for Dawkins, and I'm gonna probably have to go through

590
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Speaker 3: some depth charts to remember enough of them. But things

591
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Speaker 3: turned over with the Jets, Nate soldiers in New York.

592
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Speaker 3: With the Giants, he's in the NFC. Now you know

593
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Speaker 3: he got tunsil, but I think he is he moving

594
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Speaker 3: back to guard with the Dolphins. He might be moving

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Speaker 3: back to guard. We got pull up some depth charts.

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Speaker 3: I want to see what Dion Dawkins AFC competition is

597
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Speaker 3: going to be this year in the AFC, because I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna plead ignorance on this. I'm suffering from

599
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Speaker 3: Bill's myopia, so I'm not gonna pretend to know. I'm

600
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Speaker 3: not gonna pretend to know all the starting left tackles

601
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Speaker 3: off the top of my head. Ronnie Stanley right, Baltimore,

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Speaker 3: he's the left tackle. There is that right? I think

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Speaker 3: I think he is.

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Speaker 1: Last year Donald Penn of Oakland, Joe Thomas of Cleveland,

605
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Speaker 1: where the starters, Taylor Lewan of Tennessee was the reserved tackle.

606
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Speaker 1: Uh Andrew Whitworth of Cincinnati was an alternate so it's

607
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Speaker 1: not an overwhelming field there for for Deon Dawkins to overcome.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't seem that way anyway, was't it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, yeah, I mean again, I'd like to

610
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Speaker 3: look at all the names to see what we're dealing

611
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Speaker 3: with there. But you know, yeah, Ronnie Stanley left tackle

612
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Speaker 3: in Baltimore. You got Laramie Tunssell in Miami, so you

613
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Speaker 3: know there's there's some names out there. But even you

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Speaker 3: think about guys that have moved to the other conference.

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Speaker 3: You know, even in Houston, they trade Dwayne Brown to Seattle,

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Speaker 3: so he's out. You know, he's one of the better

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Speaker 3: tackles that was in the AFC. He's no longer in

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Speaker 3: the as he's in the NFC now. I mean, they've

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Speaker 3: got Julienne Davenport, who's a second year player and a

620
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Speaker 3: former fourth round pick who's going to be playing left

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Speaker 3: tackle for them this year. Who's replacing Joe Thomas in Cleveland?

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Speaker 3: Who do they have there? I mean, that's you know,

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Speaker 3: Joe Thomas is a perennial Pro Bowl guy. That's out

624
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Speaker 3: of the mix.

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Speaker 1: Now.

626
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Speaker 3: They've got Sean Coleman, a third round pick in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: The fact that Thomas is out means there's an almost

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Speaker 1: an opportunity for Dion Dawkins or somebody, right.

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Speaker 3: I believe so. Yeah, and you're looking across the board here,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got the Villanueva kid in Pittsburgh who

631
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Speaker 3: plays left tackle, the big six to eight guy, you know, capable, guy,

632
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Speaker 3: does a good job. You know, plays on a winning team.

633
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Speaker 3: All of that's gonna help him. I mean, that's a

634
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Speaker 3: very good offensive squad, you know, between quarterback, running back,

635
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Speaker 3: wide receiver. That's what I'm getting at when I'm saying

636
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Speaker 3: the kinds of things that can help vaulta guy into

637
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Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl is the people around you and how

638
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: successful the team is offensively. And that's why that could

639
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: serve a guy like Alejandro Villanueva very well. So it'll

640
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Speaker 3: be interesting to see how it all pans out as

641
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Speaker 3: the season goes on. And I think, you know, and

642
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Speaker 3: Eric Fisher in Kansas City, I mean, that guy was

643
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Speaker 3: like a top pick and really I don't think he's

644
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Speaker 3: even lived up to that.

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Speaker 1: Most people view him as a bit of a disappointment.

646
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Speaker 3: Yeah, in any way, he's still playing left tackle there,

647
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Speaker 3: but he's not a world beater, No, by any means,

648
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Speaker 3: So yeah, the windows open there.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think with Thomas h.

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Speaker 3: He got Russell o'coon in La playing for the Chargers,

651
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Speaker 3: but he's at the end of his career and I

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Speaker 3: don't think he's the player that he used to be.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, there's an opportunity there.

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Speaker 1: What do you think who's going to be the Bells

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Speaker 1: offensive player to make their first Pro Bowl this year?

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Speaker 1: Who do you think it'll be? Line's open at eight

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Speaker 1: h three zero five to fifty or from outside Buffalo's

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Speaker 1: tool Free call at one eight eight eight two fifty,

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Speaker 1: talk about that or anything you'd like regarding the Bills

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Got our Twitter pulled up on that

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Speaker 1: topic on the Pro Bowl. Which Bill's offensive player make

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Speaker 1: a first Pro Bowl? You can vote on Twitter. You

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Speaker 1: can let us know on Twitter. We'll read more of

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Speaker 1: your tweets when we come back. Chris Brown here for

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Speaker 1: Steam Tasker one Bill's Live presented by Colida Health where

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Speaker 1: Live at one Bills Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show, John Murphy. Chris Brown Here. Tomorrow

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Speaker 1: is a five hour installment of The Instigators. Sure plenty

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Speaker 1: of talk about more bodily Functions to start that show

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Speaker 1: tomorrow as they did today. Unbelievable. They're in I just

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Speaker 1: got Chris. They're in Dallas for the NHL Entry Draft,

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Speaker 1: which is at Your Night seven thirty, and hopefully they'll

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Speaker 1: talk about the draft tomorrow a little bit with Wrastlers.

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Speaker 3: I'm confident. I have faith, you think, just a little

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Speaker 3: bit of faith, A little bit of a blip today.

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Speaker 3: I never know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: It's a fun show, the Instigators. You never know. Chris

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Speaker 1: is right, you know they.

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Speaker 3: Should they should air that show from the locker room

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Speaker 3: because that's really where it ends up going a lot

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Speaker 3: of the time.

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Speaker 1: The Instigators tomorrow from Dallas, from the side of the

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Speaker 1: NHL Entry Draft, So look for that. They'll take our

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Speaker 1: show by the way ten am to three pm tomorrow

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Speaker 1: with the Instigator sip Let's face. As far as a hockey.

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Speaker 3: Day, yeah, it is a hockey day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Our Twitter poll today deals with the bills and

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Speaker 1: we'd love your input, either on the telephone or on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: The full lines open at eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight by P

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty Twitter Poll Simple which Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: offensive player will make his first Pro Bowl this year?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? On Twitter? We offered up a

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Speaker 1: couple of suggestions that you may want to jump into

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Speaker 1: one of those. On Twitter, forty seven percent of you

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Speaker 1: so far say it'll be Calvin Benjamin uh, twelve percent

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Speaker 1: of you say it'll be Charles Clay, twenty nine percent

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Speaker 1: think or the second year left tackle Dion Dawkins, twelve

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Speaker 1: percent have somebody else in mind. Let us know who

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Speaker 1: those others are. We'd love to hear your voice. Eight

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Speaker 1: oh three zero five to fifty toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. You talked about Dawkins,

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Speaker 1: we talked about Benjamin. Charles Clay is interesting, Chris, and

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Speaker 1: it's interesting because Clay has been a pretty consistent performer.

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Speaker 1: I think, almost to the surprise of many Bills fans,

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Speaker 1: Charles Clay has been a pretty consistent performer in his

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Speaker 1: three years with the Buffalo Bills. You know what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get. You're gonna get fifty little bit more than

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Speaker 1: fifty catches. You're gonna get two to four touchdowns. Is

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Speaker 1: he a He's capable of big plays. He hasn't had

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Speaker 1: a ton of them. Yes, his salary is large. That's

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Speaker 1: the only way they could have pried him loose from

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins back in twenty fifteen, played through some

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Speaker 1: injuries last year, only played thirteen games. But Charles Clay

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Speaker 1: has potential to be a Pro Bowl caliber tight end

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Speaker 1: and I think who knows, I would see why people

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Speaker 1: might want to pick him. And is answer to this question.

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Speaker 3: And I think, not knowing truly what you know Brian

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Speaker 3: Dable has in store for the offense, you know, you wonder,

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Speaker 3: you know, how big a weapon could Clay be in

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Speaker 3: this new scheme because if there is a propensity to

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Speaker 3: target the tight end in this scheme, you know, and

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Speaker 3: people might instantly be thinking about Gronk and New England

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Speaker 3: and how often he was used in that passing game.

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Speaker 3: Can Charles Clay do some of those same things? I

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Speaker 3: think he can from a route running perspective. He may

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Speaker 3: not be the physical freak that Gronk is, but if

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Speaker 3: he can make plays in that fashion. As we know,

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Speaker 3: Brian Dable is all about matchups. He focuses on matchups,

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Speaker 3: and there are several games during the course of a

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Speaker 3: year where Charles Clay is going to be a mismatch.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's why the Bills went after him in

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Speaker 3: the first place. And here's the other component that I

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Speaker 3: think we need to consider. Also, what's that line we

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Speaker 3: always here? I know Jim Kelly's used it, the line

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Speaker 3: we always hear about quarterbacks best friend is the tight end.

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Speaker 3: And I think if you've got a rookie playing quarterback

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Speaker 3: and Josh Allen, this could be a guy that he

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Speaker 3: finds in the intermediate range with great regularity. So it

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Speaker 3: could hinge on a couple of factors here, namely, where

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Speaker 3: does Dave holl see the mismatches week to week A?

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Speaker 3: And then b who is playing quarterback? You know right

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Speaker 3: now Peterman's the guy that's got the most familiarity with

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Speaker 3: Charles Clay just by virtue of the fact they've been

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Speaker 3: teammates for a year. But Josh Allen, if he ends

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Speaker 3: up getting in the lineup, I could see him making

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Speaker 3: use of Charles Clay just as an option that comes

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Speaker 3: into focus pretty clearly and pretty early in the reads.

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Speaker 3: And that could mean a career high in catches for

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Speaker 3: him potentially.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Clay is underrated by Bill's fans? Chris,

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Speaker 1: for you know, over three years here. The money kind

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Speaker 1: of obscures everything, right. Yes, he's very highly paid.

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Speaker 3: I think I think because of the money, fans aren't

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Speaker 3: satisfied with his production. I think they felt I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of them feel the bang for the buck

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Speaker 3: wasn't what it should be. And I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you can fairly put that all on Charles Clay. Yes,

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Speaker 3: he's probably missed.

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Speaker 1: He's missed.

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Speaker 3: He missed two games in twenty fifteen, he missed one

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Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen, he missed three in twenty seventeen. So

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Speaker 3: he always seems to miss a couple of games. We

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Speaker 3: know he manages that knee situation. They back him off

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Speaker 3: and practice during the during the regular season. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to say it's like the A Rod situation, a

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Speaker 3: contract that he just could not live up to no

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Speaker 3: matter what he did. But it was a lofty contract

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Speaker 3: and the production probably didn't quite match what people's expectations were,

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Speaker 3: and because of that, on the whole, they're not satisfied

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Speaker 3: with what he's been able to do to this point.

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Speaker 3: I think he's been a productive player. He hasn't been

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Speaker 3: a Pro Bowl caliber player yet, but you know it

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Speaker 3: could get there. I suppose if the right circumstances surface

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Speaker 3: between Dable, the offensive coordinator, and who the quarterback is

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Speaker 3: throwing to him.

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Speaker 1: What do you think if you're listening to today Charles Clay,

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Speaker 1: could he make his first Pro Bowl this year for

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Speaker 1: the Bills? Give us a call lines open eight oh

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Speaker 1: three zero five to fifty toll free one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. We're asking which Bill's

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Speaker 1: offensive player will have their will make their first Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl this season? From the tweet sheet from TJ Bills

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Speaker 1: eighty five. Any of the Bills wide receivers if there

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Speaker 1: is consistent production, Clay could if he says healthy. Most importantly,

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Speaker 1: it depends on the quarterback production and play. Offensive scheme

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Speaker 1: also could prevent any Pro bowlers because production could be

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Speaker 1: spread around more like the Patriots. There's a lot there

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Speaker 1: any of the wide receivers, I guess, so, I mean

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Speaker 1: that would kind of be a lightning strike if it's

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Speaker 1: any of the wide receivers. I think Calvin Benjamin is

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Speaker 1: the most logical of the wide receiving group to have

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Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl shot. Anybody else I think would be

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Speaker 1: would be quite frankly shocking.

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Speaker 3: I would vote Clay second along receiving targets, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, because he hasn't been Yeah, he hasn't

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Speaker 3: been to the Pro Bowl yet. No, and obviously you

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Speaker 3: got McCoy no longer in the equation because he's been

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Speaker 3: a five.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, my Chris, we thought it out a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think of anybody else on the

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Speaker 3: offense that you could even hint at, you know, potentially

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Speaker 3: being that and having a shot at their first Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's well, that's why we put in the

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Speaker 1: option other. And that's why if somebody votes other, I'd

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Speaker 1: love to hear who they have in mind, because myself

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Speaker 1: and our producer Jay Harris went over it and I

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Speaker 1: couldn't really come up with a with another candidate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't logical candidate.

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Speaker 3: I'm just kind of rifling through the roster in my

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Speaker 3: head here and I'm having a hard time finding it too.

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Speaker 1: A tweet from Wandering Jack on the tweet sheet Smart

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Speaker 1: Money says a defensive player is far more likely than

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Speaker 1: an offensive player. Yes, he said, for this person, I

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Speaker 1: went Calvin Benjamin. He's the only proven commodity of wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks will look to make a concerted effort

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Speaker 1: to get him the ball. And it's a contract year,

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Speaker 1: he will be looking to get paid. That's a factor, right.

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Speaker 3: It is another element. I mean, everybody was talking up

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Speaker 3: the fact about how Calvin Benjamin came into spring camp

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Speaker 3: in the best shape of his life, completely rehabs from

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Speaker 3: his knee, feels as good as he's ever felt, and

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Speaker 3: is running well. And people are like, oh, this is

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Speaker 3: great to see. And a lot of times there's that

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Speaker 3: extra motivator. Not to take anything away from their self motivation.

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Speaker 3: They're all pros. They had to work super hard to

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Speaker 3: get here, but when you're in a contract year, it's

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Speaker 3: a little extra kick in the pants to get your

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Speaker 3: game at its peak level so you can perform and

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Speaker 3: make the money. I mean, he's coming up to his

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Speaker 3: second contract, which is the big money contract in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: That's where you make most of what you ultimately earn

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Speaker 3: in this league on your second contract, and Benjamin knows

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Speaker 3: he's got to show out this year after a couple

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Speaker 3: of middling years dealing with knee problems. So he's got

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Speaker 3: to put it together and he knows that. And he's

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Speaker 3: not the only guy in that boat. You know, you've

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Speaker 3: got a guy like John Miller. He's entering the last

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Speaker 3: year of his contract. The guy comes into camp in

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Speaker 3: the spring and the best shape of his life. He

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Speaker 3: intends to continue that down in Florida. I talked to him.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be down at the bomb Rito training

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Speaker 3: facility from the time he left here last week to

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Speaker 3: the time he reports for camp. He wants to get

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Speaker 3: his body fat down even more. Shaq Lawson isn't in

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Speaker 3: the last year of his contract, but he's kind of

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Speaker 3: in a similar boat. It's a make or break year

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Speaker 3: for him. So you know these guys, Yes, it's great

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Speaker 3: to see that they've kind of turned over a new

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Speaker 3: leaf in terms of their approach to the game. But

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Speaker 3: in part, being in the last year or your contract

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Speaker 3: will spark some of these guys to do a little

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Speaker 3: bit extra to ensure that they put up the production

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Speaker 3: they need to get paid in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: I believe that Steve jumped me a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: maybe last week about that topic. Go Tasker. He said,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't happen, and he said.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, oh, yeah, it does.

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Speaker 1: I mean, oh, it definitely kind into kind of an

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Speaker 1: argument about it on the air. I said, I believe

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Speaker 1: it does. I believe it makes a difference.

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Speaker 3: It makes a difference in a number of ways because

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Speaker 3: I remember when, because this is the other thing that

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Speaker 3: takes place. You got a guy dealing with a nagging

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Speaker 3: injury in a contract year, halfway through the season, and

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Speaker 3: does he want to go back out on the field

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Speaker 3: at less than one hundred percent, look bad on tape

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Speaker 3: and hurt his value on the open market. Do you

869
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Speaker 3: remember Jabari Greer doing that here? Yeah, he was in

870
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Speaker 3: his contract year, he had a knee issue, he wasn't

871
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Speaker 3: one hundred percent, didn't feel he could play at his best,

872
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: could have played probably and been on the field, but

873
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Speaker 3: chows not to because his agents in his ear saying,

874
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Speaker 3: you play bad out there, you're gonna hurt our open

875
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Speaker 3: market value come the off season. Let's stay out a

876
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Speaker 3: couple more weeks and wait until you're healthy. I don't

877
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Speaker 3: think he went back on the field the rest of

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Speaker 3: that season.

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Speaker 1: Take a call on this topic, Kelly calling from Rochester.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Kelly, or on the air. Kelly is gone

881
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Speaker 1: not on the air with this, All right, let's take

882
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: a break instead, we're gonna talk about it. Which Bill's

883
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: offensive player will make their first Pro Bowl in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Give us a call, let us know what you think.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive, and this is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. I'llcome back to One Bill's Live. John

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00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: Murphy and Chris Brown builds Insider Buffalo Bills Dot Common

888
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: Studio with us Steve Tasker on vacation until next week.

889
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Speaker 1: Let's take the call. Gary on his cell phone is

890
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Speaker 1: on the line with this. Hang on, Gary, I'm gonna

891
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Speaker 1: get you up here in a second. Having a little

892
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: trouble with the old cell phone hook up. Here we go,

893
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: Gary and to sell Hi. Gary are on the air

894
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: with us. Hey guys, you'll do okay.

895
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's gonna be uh. I have a surprise.

896
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Speaker 8: I think right Roy might be Pro Bowl if he

897
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Speaker 8: starts the center. I like him a lot. I think

898
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Speaker 8: I think he could be a physical center. I think

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Speaker 8: if they they're gonna want the ball obviously, I think,

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Speaker 8: you know opposite that will run up the middle. I

901
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Speaker 8: think he could be a big contributor.

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Speaker 4: I really do.

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Speaker 8: He's a surprise, I know.

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Speaker 1: But I think it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of times, and we've seen this

906
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Speaker 3: before too, Murph, you know a guy has a breakout

907
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: type season, you know, as player on their respective team,

908
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: and they still get snubbed for the Pro Bowl, Jordan

909
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: Poyer being a perfect example, and it takes until that

910
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Speaker 3: following year where if they back it up again and

911
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 3: have another strong season, then they finally get the recognition.

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Speaker 3: So it seems as though Ryan Groy, if he lights

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Speaker 3: the world on fire this year as a center, I'm

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00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: wondering if he's gonna need another year to do that

915
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Speaker 3: to convince enough people to vote for him. Center's a

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Speaker 3: tough spot and it's a lot of name recognition in there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to rule it out, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not disagreeing with you totally. Yeah, I'm just thinking

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00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: maybe it'll take a couple of years to really kind

920
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: of establish himself around the league universally as a Pro

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Speaker 3: Bowl caliber center.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of that? Gary?

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Speaker 8: Oh, look at I mean the centers in the AFC,

924
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Speaker 8: you know, maybe to the names, because that's really like

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Speaker 8: a name position to Pro Bowl usually. I think that

926
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Speaker 8: might be true. But Chris's man, if you put his play,

927
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Speaker 8: I think he's going to may become a Pro Bowl player.

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Speaker 8: I'll say that much.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's thanks very much for your call. Gary.

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00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: You know, christ and Steve and I have talked a

931
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: couple of times on the show in recent weeks about

932
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: you know, the quick look at the Bills from the

933
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: outside out of town typically is, oh, their offensive line

934
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: is in trouble and up people. But if you know

935
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Speaker 1: this team, and if you were around a couple of

936
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Speaker 1: years ago and saw how Ryan Groy filled in for

937
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Speaker 1: Eric Wood, I think your trepidation of it what they've

938
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Speaker 1: got up front would be less than a great deal.

939
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Speaker 1: Ryan Groy was a more than capable filling for essentially

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Speaker 1: half a season a couple of years ago.

941
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Speaker 3: Right, And it's going to be really interesting to see

942
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Speaker 3: in training camp between him and Russell Bodine, who's going

943
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: to get that job, because I think for the most part,

944
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Speaker 3: it is a dead heat going into training camp, and

945
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Speaker 3: I don't think we're going to see separation until we're

946
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks in between those two. And what

947
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: Groy offers is more bulk and size on the interior

948
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Speaker 3: to kind of keep the integrity of that pocket. And

949
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Speaker 3: I'm one I wonder if if the style of offense

950
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: is going to impact the type of player they want

951
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: at center. Do you want a big drive off the

952
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: ball kind of guy like Ryan Roy who goes three

953
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: twenty five's and he carries it well. Or do you

954
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: want to go with a little bit smaller guy in

955
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 3: Russell Bodine who might be a little more mobile. And

956
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 3: I wonder if the offensive scheme is going to play

957
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: a role in who ultimately has that job come September.

958
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something to look for obviously when they come

959
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: back to training camp. And training camp is what's the

960
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: first practice now five weeks from today? Right the twenty

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Speaker 1: six A John, I believe it's five week twenty yeah,

962
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Speaker 1: twenty six, I think, yeah, yeah, Hey. This is another

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Speaker 1: side note, and this is something we're all rooting for

964
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: the health of quarterback Jim Kelly, the Hall of Famer

965
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: in New York today undergoing another surgery to treat his

966
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Speaker 1: oral cancer. According to his wife, Jill Kelly, she posted

967
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: an Instagram today Jill Kelly did, which said back in

968
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Speaker 1: the Big Apple for more surgery today, another step forward

969
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: in the healing process. A picture on Instagram. If all

970
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: goes well, we will be back home by the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Jill went on to say, other than God's grace and

972
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of praying. They don't know how he

973
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: does it. Like Hunter's life, jim struggles are a constant

974
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: reminder that this life is not the end of the story.

975
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: God's plans are eternal. He's just getting started. We have

976
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: so much to look forward to. There is a measurably

977
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: immeasurably more waiting ps. Thank you for praying. Wish I

978
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: could hug you, and thank you in person. Pictures of

979
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly undergoing surgery today for treatment of his oral

980
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: cancer in New York City. We add our prayers and

981
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: our best voices to Jim and his entire family. He's

982
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: been up against it, as you know, was back home

983
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: for the last couple of months after oral surgery twelve

984
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: hour surgery back in March, and he's out there as

985
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: he always is, at his tournament, out here watching rookie

986
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: mini camp. I mean, he's been sick, but if you

987
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: look at his schedule and look at the activity he keeps,

988
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: you'd never know it.

989
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 3: Based on that, we should mention that this is part

990
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: of the schedule, yes, of what he was supposed to

991
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: undergo major surgery that he had a little while ago.

992
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: So this was on the docket all along. This is

993
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: part of the follow up process, and another surgery had

994
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: been planned all along because there's only so much they

995
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: can do the first time around. Let him heal up

996
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 3: a little bit, and now here's here's part two, so

997
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: to speak. I don't think it's as invasive in nature

998
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: as the initial one was, but it is designed to

999
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 3: keep tabs on everything number one and to take the

1000
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 3: next step and what else has to be completed.

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Speaker 1: Last I heard and I heard Jim say this when

1002
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: he was around the last couple of weeks. I think

1003
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: he said it at his golf tournament a couple of

1004
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: mondays ago. As Joe points out, they hope to be

1005
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: back in time. Things go well, they'll be back in

1006
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: town this week and Jim has like an appearance right

1007
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: coming up. I want to say next week, maybe next Monday,

1008
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: the twenty fourth, twenty fifth. Did you know that I

1009
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: heard him say it? Okay, and I'm gonna have the surgery.

1010
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: I'm going to be back and make it appearances camp

1011
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: this camp next week. Yes, ootball, I'm being here for

1012
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: camp next week. I guess amazing. We send along our

1013
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: best wishes and of course our prayers to Jim and

1014
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 1: his family as he undergoes more surgery in New York

1015
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: City today for oral cancer. All right, our one in

1016
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: the books, hour two is going to be good, and

1017
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 1: you're welcome to join us to talk about which Buffalo

1018
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: Bills offensive player do you think will make the Pro

1019
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: Bowl for the first time in twenty eighteen. Will it

1020
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: be Calvin Benjamin, Will it be Ryan Groy as a

1021
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: caller just said. Could it be the second year left

1022
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: tackle Dion Dawkins, Could it be Charles Clay somebody else?

1023
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: Give us a call, let us know what you think.

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00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: Eighth three, five point fifty and toll free one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty or also when

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Speaker 1: we come back after the top of the hour, going

1027
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: to touch on a variety of NFL and Bill's topics

1028
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: with our guests Brad Ganiol from Bleacher Report. He is

1029
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: their national NFL writer. He's written a lot of good

1030
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: stuff lately, Chris, including every NFL team's biggest mistake of

1031
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: the past.

1032
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: Decade that's not loaded.

1033
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: We'll talk with him about that. He's got a pretty

1034
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: definitive idea of what the Bills did wrong their biggest

1035
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: mistake in the last decade. Brad ganiel a Bleacher Report

1036
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: standing by to join it. The break for the top

1037
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: of the hour, and we're back with more One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Colida Health. We're at One Bill's Drive

1039
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1040
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: The Lonlo Hills Radio Network.

1041
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: Scores updates date from One Bill's Drive. The hockey world

1042
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 1: focused on Dallas, Texas for the next couple of days.

1043
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: The NHL Entry Draft is tomorrow. Buffalo sabers ready to

1044
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: select Rastmus Dolleen with the first overall pick. He's drawing

1045
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 1: comparisons to saw the best defenseman in the game today

1046
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: into one of the best of all time. The Swedish

1047
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: defenseman expected to become just the third defenseman in the

1048
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: last twenty years to be picked number one in the

1049
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: NHL Draft. Hall of Famer Nicholas Lidstrom, seven time Noris

1050
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: Trophy winner, is one of the people who does think

1051
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: that Rasmus Dolleen compares to him. The draft starts at

1052
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: seven point thirty tomorrow. Ryan O'Reilly has been drawing interest

1053
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: from teams about a potential trade. According to Savers GM

1054
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 1: Jason Botro that he told the Buffalo News this week

1055
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: O'Reilly second on the Savers with sixty one points last year.

1056
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: Twenty seven year old center Batro says Buffalo is not

1057
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: actively looking to trade O'Riley. Last night, Taylor Hall of

1058
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: the Devils edged down Nathan McKinnon of the Colorado Avalanche

1059
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: for the Heart Trophy as the NHL Most Valuable Player.

1060
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: The awards presented by the Professional Hockey Writers Association. The

1061
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: Vegas Golden Knights had four major winners. Jerard Gallant won

1062
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: the Jack Adams Trophy for Coach of the Year. George

1063
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: McPhee won the NHL General Manager of the Year award.

1064
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: Forward William Carlson of the Golden Knights won the Lady

1065
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: Bing Trophy for gentlemanly play, edging out Ryan O'Reilly, and

1066
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Speaker 1: Vegas defenseman Derek England won the Mark Messier Leadership Award.

1067
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Speaker 1: The NBA Draft is tonight at seven o'clock. Arizona senter

1068
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton, expected to be the number one pick by

1069
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns. He leads the NBA draft class as

1070
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: the first overall betting favorite, also hoping the Sons will

1071
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: call his name first as Luca Don'tchik from Real Madrid.

1072
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Speaker 1: NBA Draft tonight at seven pm and Australia with a

1073
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: draw with the Denmark today at the World Cup, a

1074
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: one to one draw. It was the result of a

1075
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: penalty kick, a thirty eighth minute penalty set up after

1076
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: Denmark's forward was called for a handball on Australia. That's

1077
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: a crucial one to one draw with Denmark in World

1078
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: Cup soccer. That is the update from One Bills Drive,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy and Chris Brown. Chris Brown in with us

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Speaker 1: in place of a Steve Tasker, who's back to next

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Speaker 1: week on the show as we talk about the Bills

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Speaker 1: and the National Football League, and one of the most

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Speaker 1: prolific writers about NFL matters joins us right now on

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Speaker 1: the Subway. Fresh Take Hotline is the national NFL writer

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Speaker 1: for Bleacher Report, contributor to the Comeback Remember the Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Writers of America. Happy to have Brad Ganiel on

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Speaker 1: the line with us. Brad, thanks for joining us, John

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Speaker 1: Murphy and Chris Brown here in Buffalo. How are you today?

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Speaker 6: I'm great?

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Speaker 1: How are you good? Hey? Congratulations on putting the correct

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Speaker 1: pronunciation of your name up on Twitter. That's impressive. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: that's fantastic.

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Speaker 6: I do enough for these bad boys A week that's

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Speaker 6: probably my best and I'm not picky like that. I

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Speaker 6: don't care. I've been getting a botch for years, but

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Speaker 6: it never hurts, and I'm sure that producers and hopes

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Speaker 6: appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I do appreciate it. In fact, I was thinking,

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Speaker 1: I know we've had you on the show before. I

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Speaker 1: suspect that I was probably one of the mispronouncers in

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Speaker 1: your history, and I feel bad about that.

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Speaker 6: I will tell you I don't keep the logs, so

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Speaker 6: don't worry about it.

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Speaker 4: But I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't recall specifically, but again, it almost you almost

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Speaker 6: become so used to it that you don't pick up

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Speaker 6: either way. So no worries at all, John.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Brad. You are in Toronto, right right across the

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Speaker 1: lake from us here in Buffalo, pretty much, I am.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I grew up in the city, so it's it's

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Speaker 6: I have a bit of me a Bill's fan base

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Speaker 6: that it has surrounded me in terms of my friend

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Speaker 6: base and my family base of the year. So if

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Speaker 6: there's a hometown team for me, it's it's a Bill.

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Speaker 1: Well, we want to start with some of the things

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Speaker 1: you've written lately, including your prediction for every team's potential

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Speaker 1: breakout candidate, and you've got the Bill Shack Lawson is

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Speaker 1: a potential breakout here. Huh yeah.

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Speaker 6: And then you know, there was word just the other

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Speaker 6: day that it might be a you know, a make

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Speaker 6: or break season for him, and that of course makes

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Speaker 6: a lot of sense considering the fact that you know,

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Speaker 6: there's not a lot of patients left in this league.

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Speaker 6: We know that it almost doesn't matter what position you're at,

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Speaker 6: you're expected to perform by that second or third season.

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Speaker 6: This is year three for a first round pick. And

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Speaker 6: you know, we've heard some good things this off season,

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Speaker 6: and obviously health has been a factor there with the

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Speaker 6: with the ankle. So if he's healthy and he can

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Speaker 6: continue sort of the momentum that he's built this offseason,

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Speaker 6: there's no reason to think he can't potentially be a

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Speaker 6: guy who puts it all together and season. There's a

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Speaker 6: few good candidates on the Bills, and obviously a couple

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Speaker 6: of them play the quarterback position, but Shack Lasson definitely

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Speaker 6: stands out as a guy who's got the talent to

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Speaker 6: do some big things and obviously hasn't fulfilled that play great.

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Speaker 1: You referred Brad, the shack is make or break, and

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Speaker 1: that's apparent you list him as a potential breakout candidate.

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Speaker 1: I think just earlier this week, ESPN hadn't listed on

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Speaker 1: their their list of players who might be released, you know,

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Speaker 1: surprise cuts and training. That shows that it actually is

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Speaker 1: going to be make or break probably for shack Lass

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Speaker 1: in this summer.

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Speaker 5: Huh yeah.

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Speaker 6: And they're gonna have to decide right on that fifth

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Speaker 6: year option after this year. And so that's usually a

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Speaker 6: pretty good sign if a player is headed toward that

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Speaker 6: bus category or not, as if you get that fifth

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Speaker 6: year option picked up. If you don't, because it's only

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Speaker 6: covered for injury, it's a pretty bad sign. You know,

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Speaker 6: it's only about a quarter of the first round draft

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Speaker 6: picks on a yearly basis don't get those fifth year

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Speaker 6: options exercise. And so if he doesn't perform this year,

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Speaker 6: you might wind up in Sammy Watkins territory where the

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Speaker 6: Bills start to look elsewhere. And and you know, I

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Speaker 6: think that that's why this year really is kind of

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Speaker 6: a making way. Doesn't necessarily mean his career is over

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Speaker 6: after this season, But then you're talking about suddenly going

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Speaker 6: into a contract year having not proven yourself over three

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Speaker 6: consecutive seasons. So yeah, I think that the third year

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Speaker 6: is often the make a break here for most players

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Speaker 6: in this league. But when you're a first round pick especially,

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Speaker 6: I think that's that's fair to say with Shack.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious, Brad, if you know, in landing on Shack ultimately,

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Speaker 3: who might have been a runner up in that category

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Speaker 3: as you were considering the Bills as a team for

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Speaker 3: this for this make or break category, was there a runner.

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Speaker 1: Up or two?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: You know, Well, it's funny I mentioned the quarterback position.

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Speaker 6: It's the patient's level is low there too. And when

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Speaker 6: you've got Josh Allen breezing down your neck, you're a

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Speaker 6: j mcchair. And your guy who comes in for years,

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Speaker 6: who's been saying this is one of the better backups

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Speaker 6: in the league. He've got hot potential as a backup

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Speaker 6: behind and he don't think it's never really got the opportunity.

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Speaker 6: Now he comes in here, he's not going to happen

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Speaker 6: more than a year to prove that he could potentially

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Speaker 6: based in Buffalo or elsewhere. For sure.

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Speaker 1: On the line with Brad Danielle, are you still there? Bred?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Still got me?

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Speaker 1: So got you? I think we still got you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I was. I was say jams barn out

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Speaker 6: there just because he's only going to get a year

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Speaker 6: at the most, the truth right, and he can be

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Speaker 6: a franchise quarterback, whether it's in Buffalo, which is unlikely

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Speaker 6: regardless because of the Allen passed, but or somewhere else

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Speaker 6: whether he can leverage this opportunity in Buffalo to be

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Speaker 6: somewhat of a bridge quarterback into being a success elsewhere.

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Speaker 6: So I think this is somewhat of a potential breakout,

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Speaker 6: potential make or break season for him. I think it's

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Speaker 6: too early to talk about Jay Jones and Beyond Dawkins

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Speaker 6: in that respect, only one year into their respective careers,

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Speaker 6: but you know, this could be a potential breakout for

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Speaker 6: those guys for sure, because especially Dawkins really showed some

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Speaker 6: good signs. And when you're willing to trade away Cordy

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Speaker 6: Glenn and we've come into that blindside protector spot, you've

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Speaker 6: got to believe that he has the ability to become

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Speaker 6: something pretty darn good.

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Speaker 1: On the line with Brad Ganiel from Bleacher Report, he's

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Speaker 1: written a lot of interesting things over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. Is the NFL hits the slow part of

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Speaker 1: the schedule. I love this post that you had recently

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Speaker 1: bred every NFL team's biggest mistake of the last decade.

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Speaker 1: I love that. And for the Bills, you list the

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Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins draft pick. Tell us about that why that

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Speaker 1: was the Bill's biggest mistake.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's just as I wrote in the piece.

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Speaker 6: You know, there aren't many active players in this league,

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Speaker 6: active wide receivers especially who are worth worked two first

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Speaker 6: round picks. And we saw that this offseason. Ro Odell

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Speaker 6: Beckham Junior, who's one of the best players in football,

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Speaker 6: one of the most dangerous weapons on offense in the game,

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Speaker 6: reportedly wasn't able to fetch two first round picks, and

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Speaker 6: in trade talks when they were apparently on the verge

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Speaker 6: of our considering making a deal with him. And yet

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Speaker 6: we're looking at a guy in Watkins who's never at

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Speaker 6: that point in time, played it down in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: And so the idea of trading up and giving away

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Speaker 6: your first round pick in the following season, to move

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Speaker 6: up five spots for a guy and take him forth overall,

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Speaker 6: and then when you look at who was drafted not

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Speaker 6: long after that in the same draft, I just meant,

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Speaker 6: you know, bj and Mike Evans. I mean it just

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Speaker 6: it's the draft of a crap shoot. You get a

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Speaker 6: lot of picks wrong, you get a lot of picks right.

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Speaker 6: That's just the way it is. But when you leverage yourself,

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Speaker 6: when you use a future pick like that, and you

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Speaker 6: do get snake eyes on that, on those craps, it's

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Speaker 6: hard for that not to be leading ed it in

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Speaker 6: terms of the mistakes made now that the Bills have

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Speaker 6: made some questionable decisions as we all know, in terms

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Speaker 6: of who they have hired to be their head coach

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Speaker 6: and GM and the Doug Walley experiment didn't work out

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Speaker 6: in the end, and the Rex Ryan thing was a

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Speaker 6: bit of a disaster. But I think that the thing

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Speaker 6: that hurts more than anything is essentially sacrificing two first

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Speaker 6: round picks for a guy who only sent three up

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Speaker 6: and down at best seasons on the roster and is

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Speaker 6: now well not even now, not even in LA anymore,

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Speaker 6: now in Kansas City. So I think that one kind

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Speaker 6: of stands out pretty clearly for the Bill.

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Speaker 3: So it probably doesn't count rad that what what the

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Speaker 3: current regime was able to get out of Sammy Watkins

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Speaker 3: was essentially Tremaine Edmonds. I mean with all that, with

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Speaker 3: the pick they got in return, and then you know,

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Speaker 3: obviously swapping that second round pick to move back up

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Speaker 3: into the first round to get Edmunds. I'm guessing that

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Speaker 3: didn't that didn't enter the equation here, not too much.

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Speaker 6: But you know that's also because we don't know for sure.

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Speaker 6: I mean, then you go back to the crapshoot, right,

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Speaker 6: and so now it will he pan out? And if

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Speaker 6: he pins out, we might look at this go, wow,

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Speaker 6: that was a blessing in this guy. If he becomes that,

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Speaker 6: you know, a perennial pro bowler, And that's possible, and

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Speaker 6: that's why it's you know, we have fun with these

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Speaker 6: pieces in the off season and especially in June, but

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Speaker 6: we don't know, We don't know. It's oftentimes sometimes your

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Speaker 6: biggest mistake turns into if the Browns don't don't miss

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Speaker 6: on Carson Wentz and then miss on Deshaun Watson and

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Speaker 6: back to back years they don't draft Baker Mayfield. Maybe

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Speaker 6: Manfield becomes better than either of them, you know, And

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Speaker 6: so we don't we don't know. But what we have

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Speaker 6: to work with right now is Edmunds is a guy

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Speaker 6: who hasn't played it down yet, and until we see

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Speaker 6: as take in ten out or not, we don't know

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Speaker 6: if that mistake, even though it's still a mistake, I believe,

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Speaker 6: will actually end up working in their favor in the

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Speaker 6: long run.

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Speaker 1: I mean even and I'm not making the argument here,

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Speaker 1: but as Chris point out, there is historical precedent too

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo Bill's history where you know, uh, drafting Tom

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Speaker 1: Kuzno essentially led them years later to be in positioned

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Speaker 1: to draft Jim Kelly. You don't know when you make

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Speaker 1: those deals. That's why it's going to work out. But

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Speaker 1: it's it's true. I mean, the draft is a crapshirt,

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Speaker 1: as you said, and sometimes it looks like a good

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Speaker 1: move or a bad move turns out the exact opposite

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Speaker 1: when it's viewed from the historical lens, doesn't it.

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Speaker 6: It's a mistakes you're best accomplishment, And so it's not

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Speaker 6: the idea of the cliche of you know, learning from

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Speaker 6: your mistakes. Sometimes your mistakes leaving to you being in

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Speaker 6: a position where you wouldn't have done something. And so, yeah,

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Speaker 6: we don't know, we don't know how this will pan out,

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Speaker 6: but luck is a part of it. And there's no

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Speaker 6: doubt about that. And so if they end up hitting

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Speaker 6: on the editstick, you know, we might have to search

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Speaker 6: for a new mistake next us.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you also, Brad Brad Ganiel on

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Speaker 1: the line with this from bleacher Report talking about every

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Speaker 1: team's biggest mistake over the last decade. While we're on

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Speaker 1: the topic of Watkins, I saw a tweet that you

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Speaker 1: had I think the other day. Mike Evans and OBJ

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior blew up as rookies in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 1: and you write teams have been chasing first round round

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Speaker 1: wide receive was ever since. It's gotten pretty ugly. Watkins

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Speaker 1: might fall into that in some respects fall into that category.

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Speaker 1: What what do you mean there, though? What's gone on

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Speaker 1: since the success of Evans and OBJ and how's that

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Speaker 1: impacted our teams draft wide receivers do you think?

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't have numbers in front of me. I

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Speaker 6: think it was two thousand and five and twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 6: so especially a decade leading up to that draft where

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Speaker 6: LBJ and Mike Evans became incredible success stories. Right away,

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Speaker 6: we're an average of three wide receivers drafted in the

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Speaker 6: first round and ever since that draft, where you know

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Speaker 6: it's cuffycat lead, teams sort of saw what Beckham and

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Speaker 6: Evans did, and we've had an average of five receivers

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Speaker 6: drafted in the first round in the four years that

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Speaker 6: have followed that draft, And so I wonder if you

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Speaker 6: know they looked at first of all, OBJ and Mike Evans,

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Speaker 6: despite what what happened with Stanley Watkins.

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Speaker 4: They looked at.

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Speaker 6: Brandon Cooks, who's become fantastic out of the number twenty spot.

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Speaker 6: They looked at at who else was there in that

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Speaker 6: draft that DeVante Adams in the second round, Alan Robinson,

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Speaker 6: Jarvis Landry, you know NFL records catches four years of

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Speaker 6: his career. That's draft was special for wide receivers in general,

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Speaker 6: and especially with those two first round picks and Evans

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Speaker 6: and Beckham. And I think the nature of the coffeecat

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Speaker 6: NFL is that ever since then, we've had teams thinking,

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Speaker 6: where can we find our Beckham? Can we find our

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Speaker 6: Evans in this round? And almost every receiver drafted since,

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Speaker 6: aside from I suppose Murray Cooper, who really didn't have

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Speaker 6: a very good follow up to a strong start to

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Speaker 6: his career when he struggled immenseally last year, have been disappointed,

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Speaker 6: have not lived up to expectations. We've seen Kevin White

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Speaker 6: and DeVante Parker and Corey Davis for Shad Perriman. John

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Speaker 6: Ross was awful when he was able to even contribute

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Speaker 6: last year. There were three three top ten picks last year,

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Speaker 6: all of whom did not even come close to expect

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Speaker 6: patients as rookies. It's early again, these guys could pan out.

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Speaker 6: Probably some of them will, but I believe it's fourteen

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Speaker 6: or fifteen that have been drafted I'm putting this year's rookies.

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Speaker 6: Of course, only one of them, Cooper, has really even

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Speaker 6: come close to expectation level. So it might be an anomaly,

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Speaker 6: but it certainly is interesting that it happened right after

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Speaker 6: that's fantastic twenty fourteen receiver class.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's only going to get harder and

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Speaker 3: harder to find premier receivers just because of the way

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Speaker 3: the college game is going. Guys do not run routes,

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Speaker 3: they don't run a route tree, they don't make any

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Speaker 3: sight adjustments on the field, they don't run an option

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Speaker 3: route to save their life. So the learning curve has

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Speaker 3: become steeper and steeper as they come to the NFL

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Speaker 3: because there is so much more for them to learn,

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Speaker 3: and with the CBA and practice time at an all

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Speaker 3: time low in the offseason, the run up to playing

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Speaker 3: games becomes a major, major hurdle, and some of these

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Speaker 3: guys just cannot get old at all, and other guys

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Speaker 3: take upwards of two to three years before it all

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Speaker 3: clicks for them.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good point, Chris. And you see that

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Speaker 6: with with offensive lineman. Yeah, which the chasm between what

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Speaker 6: a what an offensive tackle has to do at the

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Speaker 6: college level typically and what they have to do is

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Speaker 6: rookies in the NFL is growing by the year. And

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Speaker 6: as a result of those dynamics, we're seeing that where

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Speaker 6: there's the supposed, you know, ecademic of good offensive lineman

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Speaker 6: coming into the league on an annual basis. And also

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Speaker 6: it's harder to find that you know the right guy,

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Speaker 6: you know. Again we go back to the crapshoot term.

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Speaker 6: But I mean you're hearing more and more now that

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Speaker 6: drafting an offensive lineman and to an extent, drafting a

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Speaker 6: receiver is a bit of a guessing game. You got

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Speaker 6: to look at that whatever you've got, that raw product

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Speaker 6: and you've got to say, this is what we want measurable,

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Speaker 6: measurable wise, and hopefully it pans out, but we can't

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Speaker 6: guarantee that anyone is going to turn out, especially those

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Speaker 6: positions where you're right, the difference between the NFL game

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Speaker 6: and the college game has grown immensely, and you know

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Speaker 6: it affects quarterbacks too. We don't know how Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 6: is to translate to the NFL. He's through fifteen hundred

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Speaker 6: passes in college, but he's not going to be running

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Speaker 6: the same type of offense at the NFL level consistently.

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Speaker 6: And so you know, we feel Josh Rosen, we saw

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Speaker 6: him run a pro style offense in college. But you know,

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Speaker 6: you look at Baker Mayfield, you look at a quarterback

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Speaker 6: who's a little bit different in that respecting comes from

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Speaker 6: a different system. We just don't know, and that's what's

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Speaker 6: so crazy about the amount of money and energy and

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Speaker 6: time that has invested in these.

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Speaker 1: Guys on the line with Brad Ganiel, he is a

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Speaker 1: Bleacher Report national NFL writer contributor to The Comeback. He

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Speaker 1: has been prolific filling up the dead period of the

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Speaker 1: NFL schedule with some interesting articles, including one ranking every

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Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks supporting cast for the upcoming season, looking at

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Speaker 1: skill position players only running backs, wide receivers, tight ends,

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Speaker 1: you rank them. You've got Josh McCallan of the Jets

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Speaker 1: as the worst supporting cast, and you have the Bills

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Speaker 1: AJ McCarran as second to last, thirty first for a

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Speaker 1: supporting cast around AJ McCarron. Tell us about that if

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Speaker 1: you would bread well.

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Speaker 6: Now become the bustle now at least it's kind of

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Speaker 6: a transition year, I think for the Bills, I think

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Speaker 6: as much as last they have around McCarran or whoever

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Speaker 6: starts at the quarterback puisition, especially if as Josh Allen,

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Speaker 6: he's going to take some time, I think to adjust

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Speaker 6: to the NFL game, and you know, nail down his

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Speaker 6: accuracy and his mechanics. You look at that, and you

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Speaker 6: look at who they're throwing to, whoever it is, it's

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Speaker 6: a little bit scary. I don't know how reliant can

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Speaker 6: they be on Calvin Benjamin, who just hasn't been relied

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Speaker 6: upon since that rookie season with the Panthers where he

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Speaker 6: went over a thousand yards for Cam Newton. Maybe he

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Speaker 6: gets back to that point, but there's a strong a

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Speaker 6: chance that he, you know, again, encounters injuries or again

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Speaker 6: just can't gain some consistency. I like Child, I like

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Speaker 6: Niko Leary, but again, I mean, I don't know if

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Speaker 6: they're carrying that offense if the receivers aren't there, I

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Speaker 6: don't know about the depth behind Benjamin and day Jones.

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Speaker 6: Obviously we talked about Jay Jones caught only thirty seven

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Speaker 6: percent of the past that stone his way from Tyrod

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Speaker 6: Taylor and co. Last season, And then there's a question

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Speaker 6: of how much Istoshan McCoy have left. I love watching

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Speaker 6: him play the running back position. He seems to be

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Speaker 6: one of those guys who maybe can push it into

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Speaker 6: his thirties. But as long as there's a chance that

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Speaker 6: he's going to start going down, well, he's probably started

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Speaker 6: to decline statistically, But as long as there's a chance

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Speaker 6: that he's going to potentially, you know, kind of hit

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Speaker 6: that point where he's no longer an effective number one,

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Speaker 6: no longer a perennial Pro Bowl candidate, that has to

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Speaker 6: be counted against this this supporting cast in general. So

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Speaker 6: I like the offensive line. If that was included here,

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Speaker 6: I think they maybe moved up even though they've gone

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Speaker 6: through so much this offseason, I really do think Dawkins

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Speaker 6: can be a very stronger, even an upgrade over Cory

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Speaker 6: Gohen for win Don rof help. So I like the lines,

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Speaker 6: but I don't and all those weapons are first of

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Speaker 6: all deep enough and second of all reliable enough or

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Speaker 6: Allen or McCarron or Peck, maybe even Nathan Peterman to

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Speaker 6: have to rely on this season.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious, Brad, where did I because I didn't get

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Speaker 3: an access to the full list, but where did do

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Speaker 3: you remember where you had Arizona on that list? Because yeah,

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Speaker 3: I can, I can check. It's I'm looking at their

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Speaker 3: wide receiving core after Larry Fitzgerald, and I'm just saying wolf.

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Speaker 1: A little.

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Speaker 6: They got a little more of love in the twenty

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Speaker 6: fourth spot because of the chance that David Johnson, you know,

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Speaker 6: finds what he had to. He was one of the

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Speaker 6: best receiving running backs in the game. He was an

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Speaker 6: All Pro two years ago, and the injury wasn't like

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Speaker 6: you know it was. I believe it was a risk

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Speaker 6: and that's not usually something that's going to the laborer

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Speaker 6: running back too much. So he alone, and the fact

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Speaker 6: that Larry Fitzgerald seems to have like a Benjamin Button

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Speaker 6: thing going on, keeps the Cardinals sort of in contention.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, you're looking at you know, they lost John

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Speaker 6: and you'reon Brown. So it's JJ Nelson, Chad Williams and

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Speaker 6: Christian Kirk the second round pick. Complimenting Fitzgerald and Fitzgerald

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Speaker 6: as much as I get said, he's great for not aging.

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Speaker 6: He's no longer a guy. He's gonna make big plays

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Speaker 6: down the field. So they're pretty limited in that respect,

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Speaker 6: and they're definitely within the range as well.

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Speaker 1: Bright, who's number one on your list? Which quarterback has

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Speaker 1: the best supporting cast?

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Speaker 6: I look with Pat Mahomes, you know, congratulations on being

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Speaker 6: promoted into a starting role and to immediately have a

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Speaker 6: Pro Bowl receiver in Tyreek Hill, a Pro Bowl ti

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Speaker 6: end in Travis Kelsey, in a Pro Bowl running back,

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Speaker 6: the reigning rushing yard is leader in Kareem Hunt. There's

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Speaker 6: only two quarterbacks in football who will have three Pro

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Speaker 6: Bowlers among their supporting cast this year. One of them

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Speaker 6: is Drew Brees, but two of them play the running

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Speaker 6: back position, and the other is Patrick Mahomes, who will

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Speaker 6: have won at all three of those primary positions, you

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Speaker 6: can walk into a much better situation than that. Watkins

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Speaker 6: is there as a more in a supporting role as

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Speaker 6: a number two or possibly even a number three, depending

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Speaker 6: what they can get out of Chris Conley, who's got

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Speaker 6: some promise. I think he's an underrated presence there as well.

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Speaker 6: So he add all that up together, and I think

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Speaker 6: that Patrick Mahomes is at the very least going to

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Speaker 6: have all the support he could possibly need in terms

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Speaker 6: of trying to break out in his first fall season

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Speaker 6: as the starter there in Kansas City, and a.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good offensive play caller as his head coach too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yes, and that's that's that's you know whatever. Whatever

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Speaker 6: Andy touches usually turns the goal, at least temporarily at

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Speaker 6: that position, So we'll see if that happens again here.

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Speaker 1: Hey Brad, thanks for this, Thanks for all the good work.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting takes, and we'll talk about him as the

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Speaker 1: show goes along. We appreciate you spend it a few

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Speaker 1: minutes with us on the show today. Thanks very much,

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Speaker 1: always a pleasure.

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Speaker 6: Thanks walk guys.

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Speaker 1: Bred Ganiel in Toronto. He is national NFL writer for

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Speaker 1: a Please Report contributor to the Comeback. He joined us

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Speaker 1: on the subway fresh take hotline, Subway eat Fresh.

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Speaker 3: I get why the Bills are to hear it, but

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Speaker 3: it's an unproven thing, that's right, and I totally get it.

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Speaker 3: But they're not the only team out there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you look at this Arizona roster. Holy Crow, I mean,

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Speaker 3: and I know why he has a lot of faith

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Speaker 3: in David Johnson, but the fact remains, he's coming off

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Speaker 3: in ACL and sometimes you're not right that first year

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Speaker 3: back from an ACL, and that guy's the lynchpin of

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Speaker 3: this offense. I mean, Larry Fitzgerald does seem to have

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01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 3: the fountain of youth on his side because he's still

1502
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 3: productive at his advanced age, but he's going to get

1503
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 3: doubled every play of the game because Chad Williams, I mean,

1504
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 3: a twenty seventeen third round pick is your number two guy,

1505
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 3: Your number three guy is your second round pick from

1506
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 3: this year. Christian Kirk, who granted was a good receiver,

1507
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 3: you know, coming out of what was it, Texas A

1508
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 3: and M I want to say some Texas school I

1509
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 3: can't remember now, and then I mean, but after that,

1510
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 3: it's Bryce Butler, JJ Nelson, Greg Little, who's been a

1511
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 3: journeyman in this league and can't get on the field

1512
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 3: on offense. I mean, Jermaine Gresham's their tight end. I mean,

1513
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 3: that guy's been a disappoint him in this league.

1514
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: The running back is solid, he's great.

1515
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 3: He's really, don't get me wrong. I mean he was

1516
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,560
Speaker 3: my first pick in my fantasy draft last year and

1517
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 3: then tore his ACL in Week two. Thanks very much.

1518
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 3: So maybe I'm a little bitter, but you know, he's

1519
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 3: got to come back from that. He's got to come

1520
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 3: back from that. He's going to be the same I

1521
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 3: want to see.

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01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: All right. Interesting, We thank Brad Ganjan for Danielle blew

1523
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: It after oh you know all that work, Daniell, thank

1524
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: you for joining us on the subway Fresh take coutline

1525
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: Subway Eat Fresh. Half hour ago, Chris, we talked about

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01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly and surgery today. He is out of surgery,

1527
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: according to his wife Jill, who already posted yeah, well

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01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he went in a half hour ago,

1529
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: but his wife Jill posted a tweet and something on

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01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: the Instagram. And it's classic when Jim tells the anesthesiologists

1531
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: after surgery that he needs a cold corps light. So

1532
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: you have to interpret that as good news. Right from

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01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly surgery.

1534
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 3: You're in a beer drinking mood that soon after surgery.

1535
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 3: It's probably a good thing.

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01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 1: That tweet came out about twenty minutes ago. Good so good.

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01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: More prayers needed, obviously for Jim Kelly surgery today appears

1538
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: to have gone well. His wife says he told the

1539
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: anesthesiologist he needs a Corse light. That's amazing, Classic Kelly.

1540
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: A break here. We've got more to come. Chris and

1541
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: I are going to talk about the Bill's defense. Are

1542
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: they going to be a zone team a man team?

1543
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 1: What will it look like? That's coming up next. Come

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01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 1: on back One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and

1545
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the Big Show.

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01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Cold of Health John Murphy

1547
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: with Chris Brown, Steve Tasker vacationing he'll be back on Monday.

1548
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: We have no show tomorrow. The Instigators take over the

1549
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: whole five hour block tomorrow ten am to three pm

1550
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: to preview the NHL Entry Draft. Rasmus Dollen scheduled to

1551
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: be the first pick in the draft coming up tomorrow

1552
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: night seven thirty. So Chris and I here to talk

1553
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: about Bill's football for the remaining hour and a half

1554
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 1: and then will be it for this week. More shows

1555
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: coming up next week Steve will be hosting that. Our

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01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 1: Twitter poll today deals with a couple of things. We

1557
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 1: started the show with about Pro Bowl candidates on the

1558
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. It's not easy to identify

1559
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 1: them for the Bills. Is it Pro Bowl candidates? How

1560
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 1: about Pro Bowl candidates first time guys who've never been

1561
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: to a Pro Bowl before. That's our Twitter poll and

1562
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: we're getting your response. Which Buffalo Bill on the offensive

1563
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 1: side of the ball who has never been to a

1564
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl? Do you think will make the Pro Bowl

1565
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen? That guys who've been alternated in previous

1566
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: years also right now on Twitter, forty seven percent almost

1567
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: half of you think it'll be Calvin Benjamin, Twenty six

1568
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 1: percent of you say it could be second your player,

1569
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins, thirteen percent say tight end Charles Clay fourteen

1570
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: percent have somebody else in mind. We've got more than

1571
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: sixteen hundred votes in already. Let's know what you think.

1572
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 1: Give us a call to eighth three oh five fifty

1573
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 1: and total free one eight eight eight five point fifty two,

1574
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,600
Speaker 1: five fifty. What if the question we're defense Chris, it's not.

1575
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 3: But what if it were first Pro Bowl?

1576
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: First Pro Bowl? I would say Trey White.

1577
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 3: I'd go Trey White. Jordan Poyer would be two. Edmunds

1578
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 3: is a rookie that would be Uh, suppose Jerry Hughes

1579
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 3: could could get it if he can put up a

1580
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 3: big year.

1581
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 1: Has he ever been to a Pro Bowl? As an alternate?

1582
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 3: Even I don't think so. Yeah, he was the guy

1583
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 3: left at the altar of the year. All three went

1584
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 3: h Mario, Marcel, and Kyle. Okay, so yeah, he has

1585
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 3: not been. I know he's not been to the Pro Bowl.

1586
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 3: I don't know whether he was. No, he never played

1587
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 3: in the Pro No, he's no. Okay, I would put

1588
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 3: him on the list. I make him third. We're really

1589
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:41,440
Speaker 3: handicapping this thing here. I'm trying to think. Now, Lorenzo's

1590
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 3: been to one, Kyle has been to some, Kyle's been

1591
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 3: to five.

1592
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, more than some. I'm guessing lotol Lay has been

1593
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl before.

1594
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 3: No, I don't think he has. I don't think he

1595
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 3: has because I remember looking at his career Bio and

1596
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 3: I don't think he's been to one. Yeah, so he

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01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 3: would be a candidate. It's a hard position to get

1598
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 3: that kind of recognition. I mean, we were talking about

1599
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 3: Ted Washington the other day. It took him. I remember

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01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 3: he had a monster year his first year here in Buffalo,

1601
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 3: and he did not go, And then I think he

1602
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 3: went the next year because he increased his numbers from

1603
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 3: the previous year, and then went because people were I

1604
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 3: remember asking him in an interview like, are you outraged

1605
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 3: that you know you didn't get named to the Pro Bowl?

1606
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 3: And he gave the politically correct answer, but you could

1607
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,719
Speaker 3: clearly see he was not happy. And believe me, angering

1608
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 3: Ted Washington is not something I wanted to be a

1609
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 3: part of at any point in time. But yeah, fortunately

1610
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 3: it was a group interview, not a one on one.

1611
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 3: Of course, he'd have to catch me. I can outrun

1612
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 3: him at least.

1613
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: So what do you think, which bill on offense do

1614
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: you anticipate could make the Pro Bowl for the first

1615
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: time ever this year? On the tweet, sheeet a couple

1616
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: of interesting tweets. Ryan Rossignall Dawkins was a top five

1617
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: offensive tackle last year. All he lacked was a full

1618
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: season and the national recognition that he may get this year.

1619
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: The numbers speak for themselves, unless the loss of Incognito

1620
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,839
Speaker 1: impacts him negatively too much. Let's hope it's our quarterback.

1621
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: That'd be something if it were the Bills quarterback. Do

1622
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: you think the loss of Incognito will have much impact

1623
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: on the way Dan Dawkins plays this year?

1624
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 3: I don't think so, only because he's got another veteran

1625
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 3: lining up next to him right now in Vlad Ducas.

1626
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 3: It's not like they're throwing a wet behind the ears

1627
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 3: rookie in there like a why a teller, you know,

1628
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 3: somebody like that, that might be a lot to ask,

1629
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 3: where you know he might have to cover up for

1630
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 3: some of the deficiencies and the learning curve that would

1631
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 3: have to take place there for somebody like Teller. So

1632
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 3: seeing Ducas over there, I think that probably ensures that,

1633
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 3: you know, he'll be able to just stick to his

1634
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 3: own business and not have to cover up for anybody else.

1635
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: Another tweet from Jonathan Gates asks this question on Twitter.

1636
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,759
Speaker 1: Does Dawkins beat out Cordy in Cincinnati? That'd be interesting.

1637
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: You already beat him out for the Bills Rochester spout.

1638
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 1: I think we've mentioned this on the show several times.

1639
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: It's important to know that Cordy Glenn could have played

1640
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 1: what around eight ten weeks into last season, and Dion

1641
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 1: Dawkins kept him on the bench. That wasn't an injury really,

1642
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: that kept Courty on the bench. He beat him out.

1643
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: He took his job last year. And so when you

1644
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 1: get the outside take that all the Bills, even Brad

1645
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: Ganiel mentioned it. You know, Cordy Glenn, Well, the Bills

1646
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: decided last year they were gonna go with Dawkins instead

1647
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: of Cordy Glenn.

1648
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 3: In Glenn's defense, I mean, he's a good left tackle.

1649
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 3: He's above average. You know, I might even put him

1650
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 3: in the top fifteen left tackles in the league. Really, yeah,

1651
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 3: I'd put in somewhere between ten and fifteen. He's a

1652
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 3: good player.

1653
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: I think I was the problem here.

1654
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 3: Availability. Yeah, it was availability, and you know, coach mcdermot's

1655
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 3: trying to get things established, and it was one step

1656
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 3: forward and two steps back, it seemed. With Cordy's foot

1657
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 3: and going to a specialist, everything's good, let's try it out.

1658
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:52,839
Speaker 3: Back to the specialist. Now I need surgery.

1659
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 4: You know.

1660
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 3: It's like they say in the league, the most important

1661
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 3: ability in the NFL is availability and he wasn't available.

1662
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 3: And this isn't the first time they've gone down this

1663
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,799
Speaker 3: road with Cordy. There have been other issues, ankle issues.

1664
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 3: I think he had a back problem at some point

1665
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 3: earlier in his career. So I think the fits and starts,

1666
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 3: when you're trying to establish yourself as a unit on offense,

1667
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 3: especially the line, it can become problematic and it can

1668
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 3: have a ripple effect. And I think coach McDermott was

1669
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 3: I don't think he was writing off Cordy Glenn. I

1670
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 3: think he tried to be as patient as he could

1671
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 3: with the situation that was at hand, but it just

1672
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 3: became insurmountable. I think in their eyes, and then knowing

1673
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 3: what their plans ultimately were for the draft the following spring,

1674
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 3: I think they saw him ultimately, once they knew they

1675
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 3: were okay with Dawkins at left tackle the way he

1676
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 3: was performing, I think they then saw Cordy Glenn as

1677
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 3: a whole different kind of asset, a bargaining chip to

1678
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 3: get draft capital in return, and to their credit, they

1679
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 3: made it so well.

1680
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: In anything, I think they were frustrated with Cordy Glenn

1681
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 1: and the availability issue. You know, it's like, come on,

1682
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: are you with us? Are you playing? Are you not?

1683
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 1: And I think they eventually made the decision last year

1684
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: around midseason and move.

1685
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 3: On without them, right, And let's not make a mistake either,

1686
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 3: knowing the business that this league is. He had one

1687
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 3: of the highest cap figures on the roster and he's

1688
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 3: barely playing, so I think that also precipitated the decision

1689
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 3: to make him a bargaining chip. So you know, it

1690
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 3: worked out for all parties because now Cordy Glenn gets

1691
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 3: to start a new chapter as a starting left tackle

1692
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati, you know, playing on a decent offense, and

1693
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 3: Deon dawkins career gets a chance to blossom here in

1694
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 3: Buffalo at the left tackle spot, and the Bill's cap

1695
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 3: situation come next year will be a whole lot healthier

1696
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 3: because of it.

1697
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: Also from the tweetsheet from Dave Lower on Dion Dawkins,

1698
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 1: he says, Schnowman Dawkins nickname, No Schnowman had some rookie

1699
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: struggles in pass protection, but look good in the run game.

1700
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: Going to be a great sophomore season. Okay, I don't

1701
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: know if he's you know, I don't I don't think

1702
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: he was struggled badly. And he was really good in

1703
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: the ring game.

1704
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 6: You know.

1705
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: One of the one of the uh outstanding images I

1706
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: have of last year in Dion Dawkins was run games.

1707
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: And a lot of this has to do with McCoy,

1708
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 1: but Dawkins was always downfield. In other words, he would

1709
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: not end his block. He would get downfield and get

1710
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: the next level and the next level after that sometimes,

1711
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think that was a

1712
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: really strong part of his game. And I think when

1713
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: you have a running back like Shady McCoy, who can

1714
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: uh you know, through patients and vision and his great

1715
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 1: contact balance can keep plays going for a while, a

1716
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: guy like Dawkins who stays with it and moves right

1717
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: through the lineup defensively is a big asset. He was

1718
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: really strong in that.

1719
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 3: I think his athleticism is underrated because you look at

1720
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 3: him and he does not pass the eyeball test. You know,

1721
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 3: he's kind of a little bit of a I don't want,

1722
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm trying to find the right description here,

1723
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 3: but he's not an Adonis. He's not a sculpted physical specimen, right,

1724
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 3: So you look at him and you're like, well, is

1725
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 3: he just kind of alignment that gets in the way.

1726
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 3: This guy's athletic. I mean he can do flips and

1727
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 3: stuff quick. Yeah, And we had to sit down with

1728
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 3: him just before the end of Mini camp and we're

1729
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 3: gonna have it up both on the video side and

1730
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 3: on the written side on Buffalo bills dot Com. He's

1731
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 3: going to be putting together a piece for us in

1732
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 3: the first person on his outlook for you know, the

1733
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 3: second season, what he learned from season one, some of

1734
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 3: his off the field activities. He was part of that

1735
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 3: honor flight program with ward veterans. He comes from a

1736
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 3: military family, so it's going to be an interesting first

1737
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 3: person account. We call it my view on Buffalo bills

1738
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 3: dot com. It's the first person account that the players

1739
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 3: get an opportunity to speak directly to the fans, uh

1740
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 3: through the through the team website. Buffalo Bills dot Com

1741
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 3: should be up next week, probably middle of the week.

1742
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:48,560
Speaker 1: Oh, look for that. How many of those did you do?

1743
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 3: That's that was first on the docket and it's all

1744
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 3: we had time for. But we do plan to do

1745
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 3: more in the future, you know, as the players come back,

1746
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 3: probably do a couple in training camp and then hopefully

1747
01:21:58,680 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 3: some during the regular season as well.

1748
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: Which Bill's offensive player will make a Pro Bowl debut

1749
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. Give us a call. We'd love to

1750
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 1: talk to you about it. Eight h three zero five

1751
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: to fifty and toll free one eight eight five fifty

1752
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 1: two five to fifty. That's offense defense, Chris who came

1753
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 1: across the stat online from Pro Football Focus. They do

1754
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 1: a great job about the percentage of coverage for the

1755
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: Bills and the whole league that was zone coverage last year.

1756
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: Tell us about it.

1757
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 3: It did both man and zone coverage and broke it

1758
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 3: down in terms of the teams that you know had

1759
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 3: man coverage calls the most in the league, who had

1760
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 3: zone coverage calls the most in the league. And I

1761
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 3: don't think anybody surprised that the Bills are near the

1762
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 3: top of the list. They finished third with the most

1763
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 3: zone coverage calls in the league at just over sixty

1764
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 3: eight percent of the time they had a zone call

1765
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 3: on a passing down, and so the only two teams

1766
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 3: ahead of them were Pittsburgh and surprise, surprise, Carolina. So

1767
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,600
Speaker 3: to see knowing the Bills defense largely comes off of

1768
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 3: that Carolina Tree. It's not surprising to see them right

1769
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 3: there with Carolina at the top of the league in

1770
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 3: terms of zone coverage calls. In terms of man coverage calls,

1771
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 3: just in case anybody's curious, Kansas City led the league

1772
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 3: at just over forty six percent the Patriots. This surprised me.

1773
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 3: The Patriots were second at forty five point six percent,

1774
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 3: and then Tennessee at just over forty four percent was

1775
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 3: third in man coverage calls. Now, I do know that

1776
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 3: the Patriots were getting their doors blown off when they

1777
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 3: were playing a lot of man coverage early in the season.

1778
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 3: You remember the first game of the year when Kansas

1779
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 3: City rolled up forty two points on them, and they

1780
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 3: really had trouble. It came to week four and they

1781
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 3: said scrap that and they went to a lot less

1782
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 3: man coverage. But here they are at the end of

1783
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 3: the season. They're still near the top of the league

1784
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 3: in man coverage calls. I found that very interesting as

1785
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 3: far as the division opponent was concerned. But with respect

1786
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 3: to the Bills, you know, I don't think this number

1787
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 3: comes as any surprise, but I kind of wonder a

1788
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 3: little bit if that number is going to go down

1789
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 3: at least slightly maybe dip below sixty five sixty four percent.

1790
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 4: Why would it go down.

1791
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking that with Vonte Davis and Tredavius White,

1792
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 3: there's at least the option for Leslie Frasier to maybe

1793
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,719
Speaker 3: call a few more man coverages this year, just because

1794
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 3: you've got two physical corners on the outside that can

1795
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 3: play press, capable of playing press and doing it well,

1796
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 3: and are physical enough players that even when facing a

1797
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 3: bigger receiving target, which you know will happen over the

1798
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 3: course of the season, they could still get the job

1799
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 3: done in that regard. I'm not saying we're going to

1800
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 3: see this giant drop in zone calls, because that ultimately

1801
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 3: is the identity of that defense. It's rooted in zone principles.

1802
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 3: But I think the two corners you have now starting

1803
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 3: on the boundary give you the option to at least

1804
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 3: turn to a man call every now and then. I mean,

1805
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 3: judging by this, if we're to assume that zone coverage

1806
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 3: was sixty eight percent of the time, you know, I

1807
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 3: think we know that what happened to the other thirty

1808
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 3: two percent for the most part, So could that number

1809
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 3: climb up to thirty five thirty six. I think it

1810
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 3: could man coverage.

1811
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 1: What role do you think and the Bill's strong safety

1812
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: play Michaeh Hide Jordan Poyer has in these numbers. In

1813
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 1: other words, are they it's chicking an egg? Do they

1814
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 1: play so much ZWN because they they like having those

1815
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: two on the back end in zone coverage or do

1816
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 1: you think that's just the way the numbers worked out

1817
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: because of who they are.

1818
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's probably more the latter,

1819
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 3: because just talking to the linebackers on this defense. I

1820
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 3: talked to Jerry Hughes about pass rush and the first

1821
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 3: person the first people that Jerry Hughes mentioned were Jordan

1822
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 3: Poyer and Micah Hyde and the amount of ground they

1823
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 3: can cover. I don't think there are too many teams

1824
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 3: in the league with both safeties who can cover the

1825
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 3: ground that those two guys can cover. People say, well,

1826
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,759
Speaker 3: why are they getting interceptions even when we're not getting sacks.

1827
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 3: It's because they can cover an uncommon amount of ground

1828
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 3: out there on the field. So even when a quarterback believes,

1829
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 3: well that safety can't get there, I'm gonna throw it

1830
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 3: and give my receiver a chance to make a play.

1831
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden Micah Hye is making a

1832
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 3: diving interception, getting to the ball before it hits the ground.

1833
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 3: I think it just speaks to the athleticism of those

1834
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 3: two as a tandem. And I now, how does that

1835
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 3: pertain to zone calls. I suppose when you have guys

1836
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:19,719
Speaker 3: that can cover that kind of ground, you feel comfortable

1837
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 3: with them taking care of the space that's out there

1838
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 3: and filling the holes and finding where the holes are

1839
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 3: that the receivers are trying to exploit and getting there

1840
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 3: in a timely fashion. So that makes you feel comfortable

1841
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 3: to call zone coverages. But I think with the man

1842
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 3: coverabilities of the two corners that you're projected to start

1843
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 3: Invante Davis and Trey White, I think it gives you

1844
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 3: more options to turn to man every once in a while,

1845
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 3: particularly in the red zone. You know where the space

1846
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 3: is tight, you don't have to worry about space over

1847
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 3: the top as much, and you've got guys that can

1848
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 3: turn and run with people and jam them at the

1849
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage.

1850
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you to take a guest now, Chris,

1851
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 1: so if the Bill's defense and according to PFF, played

1852
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: man average thirty two percent of the time last season.

1853
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,839
Speaker 1: What about the two years before under Rex and his defense,

1854
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 1: What do you think the percentage of man coverage was,

1855
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 1: I aready two percent and the highest in the league.

1856
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 3: Or forty five, forty six for Kansas City. Somewhere in

1857
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 3: low forties. Yeah, right, say one of the leaders, they

1858
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 3: would I would I would think they might be near

1859
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 3: the top five, if not just outside. I mean Seattle

1860
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 3: last year was number five at forty one percent, and

1861
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 3: they were known as a heavy man team for years.

1862
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:28,600
Speaker 4: You know.

1863
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 3: Granted Sherman had the Achilles and dropped out of there

1864
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 3: and that might have compromised just how much man they played.

1865
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would say probably somewhere in that low

1866
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 3: forties range is probably where they would have been. They

1867
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 3: had still had Gilmour here at that time, who was

1868
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 3: known as a man coverage corner. So yeah, I think

1869
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 3: that's a realistic thing to hypothesize about.

1870
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 1: Have you ever talked to Sean McDermott or Frazier for

1871
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 1: that matter, about why they prefer zone coverage?

1872
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 4: Uh?

1873
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 3: Not?

1874
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: Why?

1875
01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:59,639
Speaker 3: Because I don't think you're going to get an answer anyway.

1876
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: No, that's right, but that's what I was thinking. You

1877
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: can ask them.

1878
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you're going to get a clean

1879
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,919
Speaker 3: answer on that, just because they're very protective of schematics,

1880
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 3: and I totally understand why. But I think it is

1881
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 3: part of the identity of what makes that defensive scheme work.

1882
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 3: You know, it's all about putting your defensive backs eyes

1883
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 3: on the quarterback. When you play man, you take that

1884
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 3: away because they're often turning and running with the receiver

1885
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 3: and now their back is to the quarterback. I think

1886
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:33,600
Speaker 3: there's a fundamental philosophical belief that having eyes on the

1887
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 3: quarterback enhances the chances of getting takeaways and pass breakups.

1888
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 3: And that's why I don't anticipate if it does change

1889
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 3: that it'll change all that much. I just think I

1890
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 3: just like the idea of having Trey White and Vonte

1891
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 3: Davis on the boundary to give you at least the

1892
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 3: option of playing man in a specific instance down in

1893
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 3: distance spot on the field where you say, boy, I'd

1894
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 3: really like to play man in this third down coverage

1895
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 3: because I think our past rush is gonna be able

1896
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,879
Speaker 3: to get home and these guys can just blanket receivers

1897
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 3: and force that quarterback to hold onto the ball at

1898
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 3: half a second. Let our guys up front get home.

1899
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 1: Make a good point. I love it when predominantly zone

1900
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: defensive teams switch into man because I think it's it's

1901
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 1: like an alarm goes off.

1902
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, on the offense, it's like and I think

1903
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 3: they have that option now, So I think that makes

1904
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 3: them a better defense because of it.

1905
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other thing, and this has been this

1906
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 1: has been true for decades in the NFL. Teams that

1907
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: played predominantly zone defense on the back end are going

1908
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 1: to get more turnovers. The Bills prove that at the

1909
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: start of the last year. Yeah, you just do. There's more,

1910
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: as you said, eyes on the quarterback and then people

1911
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 1: around the ball. Then you'll get in man defense and

1912
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:40,719
Speaker 1: that pays off. That pays dividends.

1913
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 3: I think it was a big reason why Poyer and

1914
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 3: Hyde combined for ten interceptions last year, no question about it.

1915
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 3: I mean they, like I said, they can cover a

1916
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 3: ton of ground, but when they can see everything from

1917
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 3: back there, and granted, those two guys afford them a

1918
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 3: lot of flexibility too, because both of those guys used

1919
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 3: to be cornerback. They can come down and cover a

1920
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:07,560
Speaker 3: slot guy and handle him, you know. So I think versatility,

1921
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 3: athleticism and then scheme, philosophy all caters to another big

1922
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 3: takeaway year for this defense, I got a.

1923
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: Call on the line from John in Rochester. Go ahead, John,

1924
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:18,719
Speaker 1: you're on the air.

1925
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Speaker 5: Hey John, Hey Chris, Chris. There's a sports writer on

1926
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:27,679
Speaker 5: a Rochester here with the Challenger newspaper. He's been saying

1927
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 5: for the last year, or almost not quite the last year,

1928
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 5: but the last six nine months that the Darius trade,

1929
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 5: the bills are Libel to pay his full contract for

1930
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 5: not only last year but also this year. And if

1931
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 5: that's the case, I thought that was a bad trade.

1932
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Speaker 5: What are your thoughts there? And can you confirm it

1933
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 5: one way or the other?

1934
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 1: A bad trade or a bad contract?

1935
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 5: A bad well, a bad trade I think. I think

1936
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 5: Darius had a lot of value. But uh, the fact

1937
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 5: that the bills are Libel to pay his entire contract

1938
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 5: for the remaining part of last year in the full

1939
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 5: year this year, I think is a bad deal. What

1940
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 5: do you what are your thoughts?

1941
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Speaker 4: Number one?

1942
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't I can't confirm whether this year is

1943
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 3: on there. Also, I'm pretty confided.

1944
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 1: I think they're on the hope for some money this year.

1945
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 3: I love some money. I don't know about all of it.

1946
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, and I know it was. It was

1947
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 3: for last year. But the bottom line was this, The

1948
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 3: money was not the issue. It was the lack of

1949
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 3: performance in what you were getting from him on the field.

1950
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 3: Marcel Darius had perhaps the best player mentor you could

1951
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:46,799
Speaker 3: ever ask for in Kyle Williams, and the countless efforts

1952
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:51,440
Speaker 3: that Kyle Williams went through to make Marcel Darius understand

1953
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 3: just how great he could be if he dedicated himself

1954
01:31:56,320 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 3: to his profession. Unfortunately fell on deaf years here for

1955
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 3: the better part of seven years.

1956
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 5: And look what he did in Jacksonville. He played magnificent, magnficent.

1957
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 3: He's surrounded by pro bowlers, not to mention that, you know,

1958
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:19,839
Speaker 3: so I think that what you also need to remember

1959
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 3: is what did what did? How did Marcel play here

1960
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 3: his first couple of years? Pretty well? He played pretty well.

1961
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 3: He played pretty well. So let's let's let that percolate

1962
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 3: a little bit in Jacksonville, because the bottom line is this,

1963
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 3: Marcel Darius will never reach his fullest potential because he

1964
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 3: doesn't have it in him to do the work necessary

1965
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 3: to get there. And that's not the kind of player

1966
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 3: that Sean McDermott will have on his roster no matter

1967
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:56,600
Speaker 3: how gifted they are physically, he just will not have

1968
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,560
Speaker 3: it here because that's a guy that's not going to

1969
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 3: reach his potential. They know it, and they don't want

1970
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 3: it on their roster, especially at the price tag it

1971
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 3: was at. So he doesn't care if he's got to

1972
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:09,879
Speaker 3: eat some of that salary, bite the bullet. Whatever. Culture

1973
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 3: and the right kind of player on your roster is

1974
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 3: the number one priority for coach McDermott. We saw what

1975
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 3: that got this team last year, a team overachieved because

1976
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 3: he had a team full of overachievers.

1977
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 5: You're not Jacksonville with Darius? What's that we could have

1978
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 5: beat Jacksonville with Darius on the team.

1979
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 1: I don't know about that.

1980
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 3: I don't know about that.

1981
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 1: Held him to ten points, Thanks John. According to spot Wreck,

1982
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: Marcel Darius says a thirteen and a half million the

1983
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:41,520
Speaker 1: other cap hit for the Bills this year significant.

1984
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,799
Speaker 3: This is the last year of his but he's indicating

1985
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:45,639
Speaker 3: that they're literally paying the money.

1986
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,600
Speaker 1: Oh, they've already paid him. Yeah, that's the up.

1987
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 3: So that's not accurate, right.

1988
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 1: It's a thirteen and a half million dollar cap hit.

1989
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 1: They're not paying them. I mean they've already written those checks, right,

1990
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: and the guaranteed.

1991
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 3: Money, the guaranteed money, Yes, that accelerates as soon as

1992
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 3: you trade him, so, yes, that has to get paid.

1993
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 1: All right. We're back in the morning a moment One

1994
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by co lout of Health from One

1995
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to

1996
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:22,719
Speaker 1: the show One Bill's Live. We call it John Murphy

1997
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 1: with Chris Brown. Steve Casker back on next week to

1998
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 1: handle the show. I'll be off on vacation. We have

1999
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 1: a week off coming up to the week of July second,

2000
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 1: our annual one week hiatus. Trust me, it's gonna be

2001
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 1: quiet around here July second, right, Chris, you know that

2002
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really quiet.

2003
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 3: Should be, should be, And.

2004
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 1: I look forward to it. People keep asking me, oh,

2005
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 1: I bet you can't wait till the season, and I'm thinking,

2006
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the season. I'm looking forward to

2007
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 1: some time off before the season as well, because once

2008
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 1: we get going and we go to training camp, what

2009
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 1: we say, five weeks from today, Once you get to

2010
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: training camp, you're consumed like every.

2011
01:34:55,880 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 3: Day, summer's over for us. Yeah, you know, it's done.

2012
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 1: It's six and seven day weeks until the season over

2013
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 1: is over. Last year it went a week indo January.

2014
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: It was great, but you need a little refreshing. I

2015
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: feel like it's bad to recharge the battery. Yeah, and

2016
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I'll see if you have this feeling, Chris,

2017
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 1: I feel like this off season it was slow and

2018
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 1: dark for a while. And I'm talking about the period between.

2019
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,839
Speaker 3: I guess, you know, between January and the combine.

2020
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 1: January and the Combine was tough. But once the Combine came,

2021
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:30,759
Speaker 1: then the next thing, you know, you had the Draft

2022
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:33,559
Speaker 1: and then the rookie Mini camp and then everybody's here.

2023
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 1: This offseason went fast. I think the last couple of months.

2024
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 1: Do you feel that way.

2025
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 3: I feel like I think May and June went fast.

2026
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 3: That's it for me.

2027
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.

2028
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:45,560
Speaker 3: But the rest of it was a grind. Once the

2029
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 3: players got there's no off season anymore really.

2030
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 1: And you know what's cool. The players buy into that.

2031
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, this is it six weeks?

2032
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. And the players brought into it here,

2033
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 1: I do think, and you know, they don't give you

2034
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 1: the attendance figures for voluntary workouts. But that was a

2035
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 1: strong an attendance profile that I've ever seen around here

2036
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 1: in terms of the number of players who were here,

2037
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:09,640
Speaker 1: how regularly they were here, and up and down the

2038
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 1: roster starters.

2039
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 3: That's what we were talking about on the show on Monday.

2040
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 3: The culture is embedded in that locker room. It took

2041
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 3: one calendar year, and it's automatic now. It doesn't have

2042
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 3: to be preached. Veteran players don't even have to indoctrinate

2043
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 3: the young players. They see it and realize, I better

2044
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 3: get on the train here and do the things that

2045
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 3: the veteran players are doing. And I heard coach McDermott

2046
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 3: on your show even talk about how they show the

2047
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 3: rookie players with practice film, how they move from station

2048
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 3: to station, period to period, and how quickly that is done.

2049
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:58,599
Speaker 3: The college basketball coaches that were here last week told

2050
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 3: told them how much they got out of seeing how

2051
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 3: efficient the practice transitions from period to period and how

2052
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 3: they want to incorporate that aspect of practice efficiency into

2053
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 3: their own practices in basketball. So it's an automatic thing now.

2054
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 3: Last year was a teaching thing. This is how we

2055
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 3: do work every day, This is how we conduct ourselves

2056
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 3: on the practice field. This is how efficient we have

2057
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 3: to be just being out there this spring. It is

2058
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,680
Speaker 3: an automatic thing. It is not a preached thing. It

2059
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 3: is understood and executed top to bottom.

2060
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 1: On the roster. I'm not prepared to say the culture

2061
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:42,600
Speaker 1: change is complete here, but it's further along than I

2062
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 1: thought it would be. I remember having chose there. I

2063
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 1: remember having chose a year ago when talking to Donald

2064
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 1: Jones about culture change is not a one season thing.

2065
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 1: You can't really do it in one season. And I

2066
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 1: still believe that. But they have gone much further and

2067
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 1: much deeper in culture change than I thought they would

2068
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 1: get after one year. And the evidence is, as you've said,

2069
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:03,679
Speaker 1: that attendance and the participation and the and the demeanor

2070
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 1: of the players. I think in practice, the voluntary off

2071
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 1: season practice.

2072
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 3: Is competitive nature of it. Yeah, and the better of

2073
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 3: each other.

2074
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:11,680
Speaker 4: They like it.

2075
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 3: Players like that well, and they and they genuinely like

2076
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 3: being around each other at the facility too. And that's

2077
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,719
Speaker 3: that was the point I was making with you yesterday,

2078
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 3: as as Colton Schmidt and Reid Ferguson, we're commenting about

2079
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 3: that very thing, saying we like being around each other

2080
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 3: and getting putting the work in and doing that thing.

2081
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 3: Therman's over here mouthing that's huge, huge. When you have

2082
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 3: players who enjoy coming to work because of who they're

2083
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 3: working with, you can't measure that. It's immeasurable the value

2084
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 3: that has to the culture and approach and tight knit

2085
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:55,639
Speaker 3: nature of a football team.

2086
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 1: Not the last test, certainly, but a big test came

2087
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:01,680
Speaker 1: last November. Chris through three game losing streak, three very

2088
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 1: tough losses, and the bounce back game in Kansas City.

2089
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: I think that might have been the I don't know

2090
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 1: if it's a turning point, but certain that.

2091
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 3: Was the ultimate point test. That was the ultimatelture survivor

2092
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:12,719
Speaker 3: that the culture was going to survive.

2093
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 1: The culture survived that three game losing streak and the

2094
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 1: terrible one sided losses back to back to back, and

2095
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 1: they responded with a huge win in Kansas City, which

2096
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 1: they were not expected to do, and responded enough to

2097
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 1: win nine, you know, and survived and made their way

2098
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. But that to me maybe accelerated the

2099
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 1: culture change that we're seeing here well.

2100
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 3: And I talked to coach about that very thing, because

2101
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 3: I said, there were a lot of coaches before you

2102
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 3: who faced that same kind of hurdle, and they couldn't

2103
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:40,840
Speaker 3: bring bring it back because if you look at all

2104
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 3: the coaches since two thousand and one, let's say, because

2105
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 3: Wade was at the end of his coaching tenure in

2106
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 3: two thousand, two thousand and one to today, there were

2107
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 3: a host of coaches that talked about changing the culture.

2108
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 3: They couldn't get it there. They couldn't get it over

2109
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 3: the hump. I would argue that probably chan Gaily came

2110
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 3: the closest, and that two thousand eleven season, they start

2111
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:04,600
Speaker 3: three to zero, they beat the Patriots, they're five and

2112
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 3: two at the turn, and they lose a couple of games.

2113
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:10,720
Speaker 3: They can't get it back. They lose nine out of ten,

2114
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:13,600
Speaker 3: and any chance at changing the culture just went up

2115
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 3: and smoke after that. And that's the guy that I

2116
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 3: felt got the closest to doing it. You may argue

2117
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 3: Malarkey two thousand and four did a nice job of

2118
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 3: a six game winning streak down the stretch, but it

2119
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 3: blows up in the last game against Pittsburgh and it

2120
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:30,400
Speaker 3: completely fell apart. At the start of two thousand and five,

2121
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 3: never got it back, and that was with a veteran

2122
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:36,719
Speaker 3: laden roster too, with the right people demanding the right things.

2123
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 3: You know, London, Fletcher, ta Keyo, Spike's passionate, dedicated guys

2124
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 3: on the practice field every single day, and they couldn't

2125
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 3: institute a culture change here. So the job that coach

2126
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 3: McDermott has done in that locker room with the leadership

2127
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 3: group that he assembled, I don't think it should be

2128
01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 3: undersold at all.

2129
01:40:58,520 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 4: It was.

2130
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 3: It was seismic getting it instituted and embedded in a

2131
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 3: calendar year, one calendar year, Murph, with all the stuff

2132
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 3: that turned over on this roster, seismic, seismic.

2133
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 1: We got to talk more about this. We'll talk more

2134
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 1: about it in the next hour. Well, it's going to

2135
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 1: talk about the quarterbacks out west in Denver, Colorado. They've

2136
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 1: got a new quarterback in place there. We'll talk with

2137
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 1: Tyler Columbus, sideline reporter on the Broncos Radio Network. He's

2138
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 1: coming up, Come on back. We got an hour to go.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio HELLOHLS Radio Network Stories update the update from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. The focus of attention for Buffalo sports

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Speaker 1: fan is ex fans is Dallas, Texas. The NHL entry

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Speaker 1: draft starts at seven thirty tomorrow. Sabers are going to

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Speaker 1: tap Rasmus Dolling from Sweden as the number one overall pick,

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Speaker 1: expected to become just the third defenseman in the last

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Speaker 1: twenty years to be picked number one in the NHL

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Speaker 1: Entry Draft. Dollen has been compared to some of the

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Speaker 1: all time greats, including Hall of Famer Nicholas Lidstrom, seven

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Speaker 1: time Norris Trophy winner, and even he thinks Dollen does

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Speaker 1: compare to him. NHL Entry Draft coming up tomorrow also

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Speaker 1: the possibility of some NHL trades over the next couple

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Speaker 1: of days. At the Entry Draft meetings in Dallas, Ryan

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Speaker 1: O'Reilly's been drawing interest from teams about a potential trade.

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Speaker 1: According to Jason Botro, That's what he told the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: News this week. He was second on the Savers with

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Speaker 1: twenty four goals and thirty seven assists last year, behind

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Speaker 1: Jack Eichel, but Botro says the Savers are not actively

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Speaker 1: looking to trade Ryan o'reivan. Last night NHL Awards Night,

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Speaker 1: Taylor Hall of the Devils won the Heart Trophy as

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Speaker 1: the NHL Most Valuable Player. The awards voted on by

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Speaker 1: professional hockey writers. The LAS Vegas Golden Knights, the Stanley

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Speaker 1: Cup runner ups had four honors last night. Gerard Gallant

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Speaker 1: won the Jack Adams Trophy for a Coach of the Year.

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Speaker 1: George McFee won HL General Manager of the Year award,

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Speaker 1: Knights forward William Carlson won the Lady Bing Trophy for

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Speaker 1: gentlemanly play, and Vegas defenseman Derek Engelen won the Messier

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Speaker 1: Leadership Award, presented to the player who exemplifies great leadership

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Speaker 1: qualities to his team on and off the ice. Tonight,

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Speaker 1: it is the NBA Draft seven o'clock tonight. It's expected

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Speaker 1: in Arizona Center. DeAndre Ayton will be the favorite to

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Speaker 1: go number one to the Phoenix Suns. That draft starts

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Speaker 1: at seven o'clock tonight. World Cup soccer today, Australia worked

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Speaker 1: its way into a one to one draw with Denmark

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Speaker 1: in the first game of the day. They got a

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Speaker 1: penalty kick to do it. France has defeated Perud today

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Speaker 1: one to nothing. Argentina and Croatia the biggest game of

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Speaker 1: the day just getting started. In the World Cup. Fantasy

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Speaker 1: update from One Bills Drive, John Murphy Chris Brown in

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Speaker 1: our one Buffalo Studio Chris is in for Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: who returns to the show next week. Let's talk about quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: We were talking earlier this week about some of the

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Speaker 1: changes at quarterback around the league. One of the big

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Speaker 1: changes occurring in Denver, where the Broncos are ready to

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Speaker 1: go with Case Keenum is their starter. Joining us on

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Speaker 1: the Subway fresh air contline. Broncos radio sideline reporter spent

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Speaker 1: eight seasons in the NFL as a center with Denver

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Speaker 1: Cy Emlin Washington, winner of Super Bowl fifty with the

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Speaker 1: Broncos a couple of years ago. Happy to have Tyler

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Speaker 1: Columbus on the line with the Tyler, John Murphy, Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown here in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Hey guys, happy to be with you. Apologize I missed yesterday.

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Speaker 1: No problem. The controversy the discussion continues over quarterbacks. So

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Speaker 1: we'll start right there, Case Keenum. Is he ready? Are

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Speaker 1: the Broncos ready to go with Case Keenum as their

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Speaker 1: starter this year?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: Is he ready?

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Speaker 4: I hope? So you know, Case Keenum, if you pulled

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Speaker 4: every media member in town, you would still get a

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Speaker 4: very split opinion about number one who Case Keenum is.

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Speaker 4: But number two, what he represents this organization and what

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Speaker 4: his future is here. You know, there's still people out

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Speaker 4: there that believe that case Keenum is here simply to

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Speaker 4: be a placeholder and be a mentor to Packs and Lynch.

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Speaker 4: Don't count me in that camp. That's not what I believe.

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Speaker 4: But there's a lot of people that do. You know,

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Speaker 4: throughout Okay, throughout Mini Camp, case Kingom has brought some

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Speaker 4: significant leadership and that's the one thing that you hear

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Speaker 4: time in and time out. The guy you talked to

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Speaker 4: on the Broncos roster, almost every last one of them,

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Speaker 4: whether they're asked about it or not, they mentioned his

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Speaker 4: leadership and how nice it is to have that back

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Speaker 4: at that position. You know, I was a fan of

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Speaker 4: Trevor Simien, but the guys are saying that this is

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Speaker 4: something that they've been missing, and you know, it sounds

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Speaker 4: like he's off to a very good start.

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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised at all. I mean, this whole signing

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Speaker 3: by Elway was indication to me that he still feels

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Speaker 3: the windows enclosed for them to contend for a championship.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you draft Bradley Chubb, now you kind of

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Speaker 3: have that other bookend that you used to have, you know,

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Speaker 3: in the form of DeMarcus Where on the defensive side.

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Speaker 3: And I think he still feels he's got enough weapons

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Speaker 3: on offense where if he just has the quarterback to

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Speaker 3: pull the trigger, I mean, it can win a lot

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Speaker 3: of games and get in the postseason and see what happens.

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Speaker 3: I mean, would you disagree that there's probably a two

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Speaker 3: or three year window here. If Keenum can maintain the

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Speaker 3: same level of play that he had in Minnesota last year.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know how it goes. I mean, the team

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Speaker 4: will go as your quarterback goes ninety percent of the time.

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Speaker 4: So when you look at the stats, your quarterback stats

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Speaker 4: are generally going to be pretty equivalent to your total

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Speaker 4: win and lost record. That's how it's not always the case.

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Speaker 4: I mean, for Cousins is a good example of that

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Speaker 4: not being the case. But if case Keenan plays good football, yeah,

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Speaker 4: the Broncos, who will be competing at the very least

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Speaker 4: for the playoffs and likely a divisional championship. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if you look at the roster just as it sits

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Speaker 4: on paper, and he compared the Broncos roster to the Chiefs,

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Speaker 4: the Raiders, and the Chargers. There's not a roster in

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Speaker 4: the ANFC West. It looks better on paper. The defense

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Speaker 4: is stacked. I mean, it's absolutely loaded. The weakest part

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Speaker 4: of the defense at this point in time might ironically

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Speaker 4: be the secondary, which has been such a strong point

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Speaker 4: for so many years. But I mean, honestly, when I

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Speaker 4: say that, when I say the weakest, that's really not

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Speaker 4: meant to be a job. I mean, somebody's got to

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Speaker 4: be the weakest of the group, and I think it's

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Speaker 4: still a very strong secondary. So defensively, they stack up

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Speaker 4: incredibly well. On the offensive side of the ball, not

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Speaker 4: a lot has changed outside of the quarterback and probably

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Speaker 4: the running back. You know, cath Keenan came in, and

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Speaker 4: that's a huge change. You change your quarterback, that's a

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Speaker 4: lot in its own right. CJ. Anderson is out of town.

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Speaker 4: They brought in Royce Freeman in the draft. He'll be

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Speaker 4: competing with DeVante Booker for that starting job. And then

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Speaker 4: on the offensive line, they did bring in Jared Beldeer

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Speaker 4: to hopefully solidify that right tackle spot, which has been

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Speaker 4: an issue for the Broncos for a number of years now.

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Speaker 4: But the wide receiver group, you got the same starters back.

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Speaker 4: But now you got two young superstars right behind him

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Speaker 4: in Courtland Sutton and Dashawn Hamilton's. And if you asked

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Speaker 4: all the media members here in town who impressed the

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Speaker 4: most throughout Ogas, you're going to get a very strong

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Speaker 4: response for Courtland Sutton.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Tyler, take me back to you know, the winner

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Speaker 1: February March before free agency was case Keenum, at the

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Speaker 1: top of Denver's wish list for quarterbacks, and they didn't

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Speaker 1: have to settle for him. I don't think they feel

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Speaker 1: that way anyway, didn't they Well, I think.

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Speaker 4: For a long time the conversation was sort of Kirk

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Speaker 4: Cousins or buff It was kind of like it was

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Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins. Outside of that, there wasn't really anybody out

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Speaker 4: there that it would appear that the Broncos were interested in.

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Speaker 4: Kirk obviously got far too expensive. As soon as free

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Speaker 4: agency opened up, John Elway about out of that sweepstakes

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Speaker 4: very quickly, and they went to what maybe it was

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Speaker 4: planned B, maybe it's plan A. Nobody will ever really know.

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Speaker 4: The assumption is that it was planned B with Case Keenum,

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Speaker 4: And you know, quite frankly, I think it worked out

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Speaker 4: fantastic I played with Kirk Cousins, huge fan of him.

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Speaker 4: I'm a huge believer in what he can do. But

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Speaker 4: when you just look at the financials of the deal,

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Speaker 4: I mean, my goodness, Kirk is just getting an insane

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Speaker 4: amount of money that's crippling towards any franchise. Case Keenum

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Speaker 4: the Broncos got for an incredibly reasonable contract and it's

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Speaker 4: only two years, so I think it's a win win.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if Case Keenum plays well in his first year,

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Speaker 4: I think it's likely that they extend him before that

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Speaker 4: second season even comes about. If he doesn't play well

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Speaker 4: in either year, well, it was two years and they

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Speaker 4: didn't lose a whole lot of money, so quite frankly,

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Speaker 4: I think given the options that were available, Case Keenum

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Speaker 4: was a very good signing.

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Speaker 3: And there's still people out there that say that very

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Speaker 3: word Tyler, if there's still a strong contingent of people

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Speaker 3: that seem to feel that keenum season last year in

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Speaker 3: Minnesota was an anomaly and not the norm, where do

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Speaker 3: you kind of come down on that, you know, going

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Speaker 3: into this year with this Denver.

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Speaker 4: Squad, Well, one thing we know about Case Keenum for

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Speaker 4: sure is he's a very solid quarterback. I mean, you

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Speaker 4: don't last as long as he has unless you're a

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Speaker 4: very capable quarterback. And yeah, he's had to bounce around

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Speaker 4: and he's been the starter, he's been benched, he's been

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Speaker 4: through it all. He's been cut everything, everything that you

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Speaker 4: could possibly go through. Case Keenum has had it. We

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Speaker 4: know that he's a solid player. You just don't last

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Speaker 4: that long in the league unless you are do We

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Speaker 4: know for a fact that what we saw last year

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Speaker 4: is who Case Keenum is, So of course not. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, that's one year of a cash I don't

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Speaker 4: know how long as a playing I think it's about

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Speaker 4: eight years. That's one year of about an eight year

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Speaker 4: career that he really stood out. So I think it's

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Speaker 4: reasonable to still wonder is this legit is? That's who

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Speaker 4: he is, It's he a superstar. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: he's going to be a superstar, but I do know

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Speaker 4: that he's very solid.

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Speaker 1: With Tyler Palumbus, who is he radio sideline reporter on

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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos radio network, longtime NFL offensive lineman. The

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Speaker 1: two years, the nature of the two year contract for

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Speaker 1: case Keenum is probably what leads people to think that

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Speaker 1: maybe he's a placeholder for Paxson Lynch. You said a

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Speaker 1: couple of minutes ago, you don't believe that's the case

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Speaker 1: at all, Tyler, Is that right?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: I mean, for me, that really has more to do

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Speaker 4: with what I've seen out of Packs of Lynch. I mean, look,

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Speaker 4: can guys. Can guys turn it on later in their career, certainly.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not going to sit out and sit

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Speaker 4: here and Paul Paxson Lynch a bus. I know for

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Speaker 4: me it was about year three that it all clicked

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Speaker 4: for me and that I started playing my best football.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly the year the Packs and Lynch is going into.

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Speaker 4: So I know first hand that it can take a

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Speaker 4: number of years to truly get comfortable in this league.

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Speaker 4: But I'll say this, He's done nothing to make me

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Speaker 4: feel like he could be the franchise, the future franchise

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Speaker 4: quarterback for the Denver Broncoso until he shows me something

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Speaker 4: that gives me some sort of hope along those lines.

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Speaker 4: All refusa believe the case Ketam is here to be

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Speaker 4: a placeholder. You know on the one of the reasons

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Speaker 4: why people are saying that is that the two year

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Speaker 4: contract not only is it not a long term commitment

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Speaker 4: to Case, but it coincides perfectly with Oh guess what

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Speaker 4: packed and wentz to fit to your option? Oh, case

2349
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:23,400
Speaker 4: Keenum two years is up at the exact same time

2350
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 4: the Broncos left and make a decision on pack and

2351
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:28,559
Speaker 4: went to fit to your option. Some people are saying

2352
01:52:28,640 --> 01:52:29,800
Speaker 4: that's too big of a coin today.

2353
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 3: The one thing I wanted to ask you about kind

2354
01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:35,760
Speaker 3: of just as an offshoot topic a little bit. I

2355
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 3: know you mentioned already how Courtland Sutton has been very

2356
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 3: impressive through the spring camps. But the guy that really

2357
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 3: stood out to me when I covered the Senior Bowl

2358
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 3: in Alabama, I thought Dashawn Hamilton was one of the

2359
01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:50,639
Speaker 3: most consistent receivers that was at the Senior Bowl that week.

2360
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:53,640
Speaker 3: Is there any I mean, is there anything you can

2361
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:55,720
Speaker 3: report on just kind of how he did through the

2362
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:56,920
Speaker 3: course of the spring with them?

2363
01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing but positivity. J Shawn is certainly impressed for

2364
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 4: a lot of people. And although Courtland Hunton might be

2365
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:08,639
Speaker 4: the most most impressive rookie on the roster, that doesn't

2366
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 4: mean that he's going to have the biggest impact. You know,

2367
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 4: Cortland plays a role that is going to be extremely

2368
01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:18,439
Speaker 4: similar to Damarius Thomas. And there are two big bodied

2369
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 4: wide receivers that possession wide receiver probably isn't the right

2370
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:26,360
Speaker 4: word for him, but they're not really your your yards

2371
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 4: after the Cats kind of guys. Dayshawn Hamilton is your

2372
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:31,280
Speaker 4: yards after the Cats kind of guy. And if you

2373
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 4: can and if you compared the two guys and how

2374
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 4: they fit in with our starters, Emmanuel Sanders and Damarius Thomas, well,

2375
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 4: Dashawn's going to have a better opportunity to get on

2376
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:43,160
Speaker 4: the field more often because he can play that slot

2377
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 4: role than quite frankly, the Broncos are missing right now.

2378
01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 4: Emanuel could probably go inside if they want to put

2379
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:52,760
Speaker 4: dt in Courtland on the outside, but Emmanuel's on the record,

2380
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:55,640
Speaker 4: it's recently a few weeks ago, was saying, Hey, I

2381
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:57,640
Speaker 4: got no interest in going to the inside. If they

2382
01:53:57,680 --> 01:53:59,040
Speaker 4: want to throw the ball my way and I'm on

2383
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:02,759
Speaker 4: the inside, that's fine, that's one thing, but the ball's

2384
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 4: not coming my way point point period, I don't want

2385
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:07,879
Speaker 4: to be on the side. So that was pretty definitive,

2386
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 4: you know. So I think that Dashawn Hamilton's gonna have

2387
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 4: actually more opportunities to get on the field at the

2388
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 4: same time as the starters.

2389
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 1: Hey, Tyler, we're calling from Buffalo, so we have to

2390
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:20,559
Speaker 1: ask about the Buffalo guy, third string quarterback Chad Kelly.

2391
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:24,160
Speaker 1: Any chance of mobility up the depth chart for him

2392
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:25,680
Speaker 1: going into training camp in a month or so.

2393
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:28,560
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you this, Chad Kelly's got to be

2394
01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 4: the most talked about third spring quarterback in the NFL.

2395
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 4: I mean, he has talked about left and right here

2396
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 4: in Denver, and he is by far a fan favorite.

2397
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 4: He certainly hasn't done anything. And and not to his fault,

2398
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 4: I mean he was hurt. He was on the high

2399
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 4: r last year. The one thing you do know is

2400
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 4: that there's a few few rookies that you hear coaches saying, hey,

2401
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 4: this guy needs to learn how to study, He needs

2402
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 4: to learn how to get better even when he's not practicing,

2403
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 4: And then those guys keep compliment to puff Jelly's kind

2404
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:03,200
Speaker 4: of guy got compliments. Vance Joseph went out of his

2405
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 4: way multiple times to say he was very impassed by

2406
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 4: the way that Chad Kelly was able to capitalize on

2407
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 4: a rookie year in which he was on the ir

2408
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 4: not a part of the practice, but he was really

2409
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:18,160
Speaker 4: running mentally, he was growing all those sorts of things,

2410
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:20,880
Speaker 4: and then when you combine that with the fact that

2411
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 4: many people don't have a ton of faith and pack

2412
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 4: them Lynch at this point in time, well, yeah, I

2413
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,200
Speaker 4: would say there is a Jason legitimate opportunity. I think

2414
01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 4: the number two quarterback spot is legit up for drafts.

2415
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 1: Well, Tatty, Before I let you go, I want to

2416
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:36,840
Speaker 1: ask you about a play from your playing career. And

2417
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 1: you tweeted about this a couple of days ago, the

2418
01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:42,520
Speaker 1: fame You were on the Seahawks when Marshawn Lynch had

2419
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:45,040
Speaker 1: his famous earthquake run. And we know a little bit

2420
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 1: about marshaw on here in Buffalo. Well, and you said

2421
01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 1: that was your the top play of your NFL career.

2422
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 1: Tell us about that and what you recall about the

2423
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:53,480
Speaker 1: noise up there in Seattle and what that was like

2424
01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 1: when Marshawn made that play.

2425
01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:57,560
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I would just say if you were

2426
01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 4: talking about memorable play things that you can remember the

2427
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 4: actual details of what went down. By far the most

2428
01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 4: memorable play of my career. I mean, it was just

2429
01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 4: such a key moment. It was such a big time run.

2430
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 4: I mean for me personally, I mean, I'm an offensive

2431
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 4: lineman and here I am. I'm running forty fifty yards

2432
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 4: down the field and that doesn't happen very often. Right,

2433
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:26,640
Speaker 4: I'm the last man between the end zone. I think

2434
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:29,400
Speaker 4: it was Sharper for the Saints and Marston Lynch. I

2435
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 4: ran all that way, and the whole time, I'm just

2436
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 4: thinking in my head, oh my goodness, we better score

2437
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 4: because I'm not going to recover from this. So, you know,

2438
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:39,320
Speaker 4: so that if I was able to get a tout

2439
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:42,680
Speaker 4: to get my hands on on Sharper from the Saints

2440
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 4: and Marshawn's corn, and you know, it's just an incredible play.

2441
01:56:46,680 --> 01:56:48,839
Speaker 4: I mean quite frankly, I don't feel like I'm biased.

2442
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 4: I think it's the greatest run in NFL history. You know,

2443
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 4: Marshon Lynch broke about twenty five tackles, you know the

2444
01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 4: way he finished it off, and then yeah, I mean

2445
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 4: the noise out there in Seattle, it's second to none.

2446
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:06,480
Speaker 4: It honestly is. Denver's got a phenomenal fan and they're

2447
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:09,760
Speaker 4: really really good, but Seattle's allowed to stay hum I've

2448
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 4: ever been in and that play. They call it the

2449
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 4: beast Flakes because it literally college and earthquake and the

2450
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 4: city of Seattle registered on the Rickers scale. That's how

2451
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:20,480
Speaker 4: that's the city went.

2452
01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 1: What a great play to have in your resume. Tyler,

2453
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:23,920
Speaker 1: thank you for this. Good to talk with you today.

2454
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 1: Have a great summer, and we'll talk again soon.

2455
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 4: All right, boys, let me know if you ever need

2456
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:28,560
Speaker 4: to be Thanks.

2457
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: Tyler Plumbus. He is the sideline reporter radio reporter on

2458
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos radio network. Played eight seasons in the

2459
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 1: league as an offensive lineman a center with Denver with

2460
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:40,839
Speaker 1: Seattle with Washington on the field for the famous Marshawn

2461
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 1: Lynch play and Tyler joined us on the subway Fresh

2462
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 1: Tank Hotline, Subway Eat Fresh greatest run in NFL history.

2463
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 1: Get your thinking, big time run big You know.

2464
01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 3: It's up there.

2465
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2466
01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 3: I mean the way he stiff arms that guy and

2467
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:55,960
Speaker 3: just throws him too the ground, like thirty yards into

2468
01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 3: that run is pretty stupid. Do you think I know

2469
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:01,600
Speaker 3: that some old timers will say there's a lot of

2470
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 3: runs that Gail Sayers made that were pretty ridiculous. I

2471
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 3: was actually just watching because my son's got NFL network on.

2472
01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 3: He just loves watching the history of the league, and

2473
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:16,080
Speaker 3: we were watching Gail Sayers in the game where he

2474
01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 3: scored like six touchdowns on a mud soaked field. Everybody

2475
01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:22,000
Speaker 3: else is on roller skates and he's just cutting and

2476
01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:25,640
Speaker 3: bobbing and weaving. And they interviewed Gail Sayers and asked

2477
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:27,880
Speaker 3: him about the game, and he's like, well, if they

2478
01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 3: kept me in the game, I could have scored nine touchdowns.

2479
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 3: He had six, And George Hallis said it was the

2480
01:58:34,000 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 3: best performance he's ever seen in his life. And that

2481
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:41,160
Speaker 3: guy had been coaching since nineteen nineteen, so pretty high

2482
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 3: praise from a guy who doesn't hand it out all

2483
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 3: that much. So Gail Sayers is probably in the conversation.

2484
01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 3: Walter Payton's probably in the conversation Chris, I've been watching

2485
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:52,600
Speaker 3: OJ's probably in the conversation, thank you.

2486
01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:55,400
Speaker 1: I've been watching our series Top ten Series Bills Top

2487
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 1: ten Series on MSG, and they had some of the

2488
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:01,760
Speaker 1: some of the OJ runs. Actually, I watched the one

2489
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:03,640
Speaker 1: that's coming up Monday. I had a sneak preview of it.

2490
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:06,920
Speaker 1: Top ten Individual Season in Bill's History is next Monday show.

2491
01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:09,480
Speaker 1: Got a chance to watch that here. Yeah, some of

2492
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 1: the OJ runs are incredible, Like, you don't see plays

2493
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:14,160
Speaker 1: like that, You don't see players like that in the league.

2494
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 3: The best thing that happened to him was the AstroTurf

2495
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 3: field in the new stadium here in Buffalo, because it

2496
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 3: made him even faster.

2497
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I said. We're watching it in the

2498
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:24,680
Speaker 1: control room. I think it was yesterday, and I said,

2499
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:27,320
Speaker 1: look at the field and look at oj shoes. He's

2500
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:29,520
Speaker 1: playing basketball out there, really and he was. He was

2501
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:31,120
Speaker 1: quick enough to do it. A track guy, right.

2502
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:34,200
Speaker 3: And you know I wasn't here to see OJ's career,

2503
01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:37,520
Speaker 3: but my brother in law it's his favorite all time player.

2504
01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:40,160
Speaker 1: And he said he was.

2505
01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:46,520
Speaker 3: Hypnotizing to watch because any play could go for a touchdown. Yeah,

2506
01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:49,200
Speaker 3: any play, no matter where the Bills were on the field,

2507
01:59:49,560 --> 01:59:52,520
Speaker 3: if OJ was getting the ball, any play could be

2508
01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 3: a touchdown.

2509
01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:57,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. And again watching and I had a

2510
01:59:57,560 --> 02:00:01,120
Speaker 1: sneak preview. I confess of the top ten individual seasons

2511
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 1: in Bill's history, that is next Monday's Top ten series show,

2512
02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:06,720
Speaker 1: OJ's all over it. You might guess what the best

2513
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:10,200
Speaker 1: season in Bill's history is probably you know, guess nineteen

2514
02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:13,640
Speaker 1: seventy three. But it's worth watching. It's next Monday on MSG.

2515
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:16,400
Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy five. When't too bad, E, that's right eight

2516
02:00:16,440 --> 02:00:20,880
Speaker 1: o'clock on MSG next Monday, Top ten individual seasons. Marshaun's

2517
02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:23,400
Speaker 1: run was right up there, greatest run in NFL history.

2518
02:00:23,440 --> 02:00:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't know a couple of things. Tyler not a

2519
02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:30,280
Speaker 1: huge fan, it seems, of Paxton Lynch. If Lynch is

2520
02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:33,640
Speaker 1: not the future at quarterback for the Denver Broncos, I mean, what,

2521
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 1: they're right back in the mix again, draft pick or

2522
02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:37,040
Speaker 1: something like that. What do you think?

2523
02:00:38,160 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 3: Probably? Probably to me, this two year thing isn't a

2524
02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:44,560
Speaker 3: bridge to Paxton Lynch. It's a two year go for

2525
02:00:44,720 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 3: it thing. That's the window that the Broncos believe they have.

2526
02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 3: This has nothing to do with Paxton Lynch. This has

2527
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:53,360
Speaker 3: everything to do with the windows closing.

2528
02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:54,400
Speaker 1: We got to go for it.

2529
02:00:54,520 --> 02:00:54,640
Speaker 4: Now.

2530
02:00:54,760 --> 02:00:56,440
Speaker 3: Let's get a quarterback who knows what the hell he's

2531
02:00:56,520 --> 02:01:00,880
Speaker 3: doing and can execute. And this guy is has shown

2532
02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:03,080
Speaker 3: he can do that, and he's a little bit He's

2533
02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:06,960
Speaker 3: considerably more affordable than Kirk Cousins. Let's pull the trigger

2534
02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:09,280
Speaker 3: on this guy and take a shot at it. I

2535
02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:11,760
Speaker 3: really think that's what John Elway is thinking with case Keenum.

2536
02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:13,600
Speaker 3: He is not thinking about a bridge to Paxton Lynch,

2537
02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:17,080
Speaker 3: because I think he's already worried that Paxton Lynch is

2538
02:01:17,120 --> 02:01:19,920
Speaker 3: not the answer and time's running out on that guy.

2539
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:20,960
Speaker 1: What is this year? Three?

2540
02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:24,280
Speaker 3: Year four? He's a twenty sixteenth pick, So yeah, two

2541
02:01:24,440 --> 02:01:27,120
Speaker 3: third season. I don't know if he's ever going to

2542
02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 3: get there. I really don't. I really think Keenum is

2543
02:01:32,600 --> 02:01:34,600
Speaker 3: a go for it mentality in the mind of John

2544
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:37,360
Speaker 3: Elway and that organization and has nothing to do with

2545
02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:38,160
Speaker 3: bridging to Lynch.

2546
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:41,480
Speaker 1: We did not talk with Tyler about the Broncos news today.

2547
02:01:41,560 --> 02:01:44,560
Speaker 1: Fourth overall picking the draft. Bradley Chubb got his contract

2548
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:48,040
Speaker 1: signed today set by the CBA, includes his seventeen point

2549
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:51,400
Speaker 1: nine million dollars bonus. We didn't talk about defense with it,

2550
02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:54,880
Speaker 1: but I got thinking about Tyler mentioned the defense. You

2551
02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:56,960
Speaker 1: think of a Bradley Chubb on one side, Von Miller

2552
02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:58,920
Speaker 1: on the other, it looks an awful lot like a

2553
02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:00,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl defense had a couple of years ago.

2554
02:02:01,440 --> 02:02:04,240
Speaker 3: Secondary not quite as good, and I would argue that

2555
02:02:04,480 --> 02:02:06,480
Speaker 3: they do not have the best roster top to bottom

2556
02:02:06,520 --> 02:02:08,880
Speaker 3: in the AFC. I think the Chargers roster is much

2557
02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 3: stronger across the board. I mean, you look at that

2558
02:02:12,120 --> 02:02:16,000
Speaker 3: Chargers roster offensive line with the two draft picks coming back,

2559
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Speaker 3: in Feenie and lamp at the guards pouncing in between

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Speaker 3: them at center. You know their tackles are long in

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Speaker 3: the tooth, but they're capable. You still have Rivers at quarterback,

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Speaker 3: Keenan Allen, Mike Williams back from injury, Tyrell Williams, Ben Travis,

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02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:33,839
Speaker 3: Benjamin As you're three and four, and then your defense,

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02:02:34,200 --> 02:02:37,280
Speaker 3: Holy cow. I mean, Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram on

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02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:44,000
Speaker 3: the edges, Denzel Perriman back from injury. The secondary is great.

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Speaker 3: They just took Derwin James in the first round, the

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Speaker 3: safety from Florida, and they're gonna have him with Casey

2568
02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:52,080
Speaker 3: Hayward and Jason Verrett on the corners. I mean, that

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02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:55,960
Speaker 3: is a that's a loaded roster right now. Loaded roster.

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Speaker 3: Their problem is they can never stay healthy. So if

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Speaker 3: they can stay healthy, they should win the AFC West.

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Speaker 3: Unless Keenum really lights it up in Denver.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't agree with him that. Finally he mentioned

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02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:11,040
Speaker 1: Chad Kelly. He described it as the most popular third

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Speaker 1: string quarterback in the NFL. Could make a move for

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Speaker 1: number two spot. I think that would. Again, I hear

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Speaker 1: what you're saying that it's not a place setting or

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02:03:21,560 --> 02:03:24,760
Speaker 1: a placeholder. You know, the Keendom is not a placeholder

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Speaker 1: for Paxton Lynch. But if Chad Kelly were to have

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Speaker 1: a really strong preseason, that would be a big move

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Speaker 1: for Denver to part ways with the Paxton Lynch. I

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02:03:32,200 --> 02:03:33,320
Speaker 1: don't know if I can see that coming.

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02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:36,160
Speaker 3: No, they probably keep both of those young guys another

2584
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:41,040
Speaker 3: year and see see who makes a move. You know,

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02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:46,520
Speaker 3: can Chad Kelly outperform Paxton Lynch, whether it's scout team work,

2586
02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:49,160
Speaker 3: back up work. Maybe they have to get in God

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02:03:49,240 --> 02:03:51,960
Speaker 3: forbid for a case keenum injury. You know, who can

2588
02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:56,280
Speaker 3: hold down the fort most effectively? Yeah, it's I think

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02:03:56,320 --> 02:03:58,440
Speaker 3: they keep all three. They got to see how these

2590
02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:01,440
Speaker 3: two young guys come up, at least for one more year.

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Speaker 1: All right, we got a little ways to go here

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Speaker 1: on the show. We'd love to engage with you with

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Speaker 1: fuhone lines open at eight oh three five point fifty

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Speaker 1: and toll free one eight eight eight five point fifty

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Speaker 1: two five pin fifty John Murphy with Chris Brown here

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Speaker 1: until three. Our Twitter poll today, Which Bill's offensive player

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Speaker 1: will make his first Pro Bowl in twenty eighteen someone

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02:04:18,760 --> 02:04:21,240
Speaker 1: who is not an alternate in previous years. You can

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Speaker 1: vote on Twitter. So far, on Twitter, almost half of

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Speaker 1: you forty seven percent say it's Calvin Benjamin who will

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Speaker 1: probably make his first Pro Bowl. Twenty seven percent say

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Speaker 1: the second year left tackle Dion Dawkins, thirteen percent say

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02:04:33,560 --> 02:04:36,120
Speaker 1: tight end Charles Clay, thirteen percent have someone else in mind.

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Speaker 1: Give us a call to discuss and we'll read some

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Speaker 1: of the tweets when we come back. Plus NFL true

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Speaker 1: and false still to come. Come on back. One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Colid of Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Got a little ways to go here on the show

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Speaker 1: One Goes Live, we call it We're Company Live from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive at Orchard Park, right next door to

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Speaker 1: newer Field. John Murphy with Chris Brown building in for

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Speaker 1: Steve Taskers seeds back next week to host the show.

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Speaker 1: No show tomorrow, The Instigators go five hours tomorrow. It

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Speaker 1: is NHL Entry Draft a the Savers with the number

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Speaker 1: one overall pick and among other things, I anticipate the Instigators.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. Let's take a phone call. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to Marvin in Sacramento. Hello, Marvin, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: Hey welcome. I'm glad I stumbled on you guys.

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02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:33,400
Speaker 5: I've been I'm a Giants and Bill Stan the Bill stand.

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02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:37,040
Speaker 4: Since the very beginning, since since the AFL first started.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for stumbling on us.

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Speaker 4: I want to ask you a question about the receiving

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Speaker 4: corps man. What does the machining corps look like?

2624
02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:46,240
Speaker 3: And who do you think it's going.

2625
02:05:46,200 --> 02:05:49,840
Speaker 4: To be the two starters. I'm really interested in seeing

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Speaker 4: how that works out.

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Speaker 1: What do you think Chris Calvin, Benjamin and Zay Jones

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Speaker 1: if he's healthy, Jeremy Curley, maybe somebody surprising.

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Speaker 4: Who who's dynamite.

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02:06:00,240 --> 02:06:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, he's got to show.

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02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:03,640
Speaker 3: That he's got a shoulder and a knee injury that

2632
02:06:03,680 --> 02:06:05,840
Speaker 3: he's coming off of, though missed the whole spring, so

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02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:08,240
Speaker 3: he's gonna have a lot of catchup to do, you know,

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02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:12,040
Speaker 3: come training camp. Jeremy Curly to me, I think is

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02:06:12,080 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 3: going to be the guy that gets the second most

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02:06:13,640 --> 02:06:16,000
Speaker 3: targets working out of that slot role. I think he's

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02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:17,720
Speaker 3: gonna be the slot receiver for them, and he and

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02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:21,040
Speaker 3: Benjamin are the two most proven guys. You know, Curly

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02:06:21,120 --> 02:06:23,200
Speaker 3: at his peak was rolling up eight hundred yard season,

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02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:26,880
Speaker 3: so you know, I think there's potential there. Yeah, and

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02:06:27,240 --> 02:06:29,360
Speaker 3: you know Charles Clay is a fifty catch guy, so

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Speaker 3: you know it's probably those three is the top three targets,

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02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:35,200
Speaker 3: and then the rest is gravy. I mean, whether you're

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02:06:35,200 --> 02:06:38,920
Speaker 3: talking Zay Jones, Andre Holmes, whoever else you want to

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02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:41,840
Speaker 3: throw in the mix, I mean it gets there's a

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Speaker 3: lack of household names. I think that's safe to say.

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Speaker 1: Thanks very much for your call. Our Twitter poll today

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Speaker 1: deals with Calvin Benjamin receiver and others. Who's going to

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02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:53,600
Speaker 1: be the Buffalo Bill on offense? Who's going to be

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Speaker 1: the first Buffalo Bill on Let me read this the

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Speaker 1: right way. Which offensive members of the Buffalo Bills will

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Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl this year for the first time

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Speaker 1: in their career. That's what I'm trying to say. Which

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02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:05,560
Speaker 1: Bill's offensive player will make their first Pro Bowl in

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02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:08,040
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. We're looking for someone not an alternate in

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Speaker 1: previous years. Happy to talk with you about that. Phone

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Speaker 1: lines open eight oh three five point fifty or toll

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Speaker 1: free from Outside Buffalo One eight eight eight five point

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty tweet from Tiffany Daniels on that

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Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin looks to be in great shape, ready to

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Speaker 1: lead the Bill's wide receiver group. He is a huge

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02:07:25,160 --> 02:07:28,320
Speaker 1: target for our new quarterbacks to throw to. Hopefully you

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02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 1: can stay healthy and pull in seventy plus catches this year,

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Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmore had a hard time covering him. He has

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Speaker 1: a good chance to make a Pro Bowl. All good points,

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Speaker 1: All good points. Ross Graham tweets in, Zay Jones takes off,

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02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:43,800
Speaker 1: and then Joshua tweets this in I think Chris Brown

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02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:46,640
Speaker 1: is right on Charles Clay. Yeah, he had some bad drops,

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Speaker 1: but quarterback play has been average at best. We all

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Speaker 1: agreed Tyron was below average at over the middle throws

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Speaker 1: in his first two years and average in his third.

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Speaker 1: Clay not being neglected could be huge, could be he

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02:07:58,080 --> 02:08:00,480
Speaker 1: might be the one Chris. I mean again, you look

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Speaker 1: at the field of tight ends available for the Pro Bowl,

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02:08:03,800 --> 02:08:07,520
Speaker 1: and Kelsey in Kansas City and Gronkowski in New England

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Speaker 1: would seem to have I'm going to say, not going

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02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:11,160
Speaker 1: to say they have locks on it, but those side

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02:08:11,200 --> 02:08:14,000
Speaker 1: of edge. Yeah, but maybe it would be Charles Clay

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02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:16,640
Speaker 1: for many of the reasons the quarterbacks watch. He could be.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's say this, at the very least, Charles Lay

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02:08:19,160 --> 02:08:22,280
Speaker 1: could be a serious beneficiary of a quarterback change.

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Speaker 3: He'd have to be upwards of sixty five catches and

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Speaker 3: more than half a dozen touchdowns. I think to even

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Speaker 3: be in the conversation, you know, with guys like Kelsey

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Speaker 3: and Gronkowski.

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Speaker 1: More tweets this one from Rob Trueban. I was on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines for a game last season in Atlanta where

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Speaker 1: a guy had three field goals in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: two of them fifty five plus yards. We know who

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Speaker 1: that was, he goes. I think Houshka makes his first

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02:08:48,400 --> 02:08:50,320
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl this year. We didn't include him in the

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Speaker 1: offense and.

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Speaker 3: Include special teamers. Yeah, that could happen.

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Speaker 1: That's valid.

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02:08:53,800 --> 02:08:57,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could get behind that. The problem is in

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02:08:57,880 --> 02:09:02,040
Speaker 3: the AFC, it's been Vinetaiyryan Gskowski that have a stranglehold

2697
02:09:02,360 --> 02:09:04,800
Speaker 3: and Tucker justin Tucker and Baltimore. I mean those have

2698
02:09:04,880 --> 02:09:07,840
Speaker 3: been like the three premier kickers in the AFC. It's

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02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:10,920
Speaker 3: hard to crack into that when they I think they

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02:09:10,960 --> 02:09:13,680
Speaker 3: only keep what they only take two or maybe even one.

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Speaker 3: I'll have to take a look at that. I think

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02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:16,360
Speaker 3: there's only one.

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Speaker 1: And Sancho tweets this in don't sleep on Ryan groy

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Speaker 1: as a potential Pro Bowler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a caller year. He called in with

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Speaker 3: Ryan Groy as a suggestion, and yeah, all right, I'll

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02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:28,760
Speaker 3: wake up to the alarm clock on that.

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Speaker 1: I don't Thanks for your tweets, We'll take more calls.

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Speaker 1: We got time for all of that, and offensive player

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Speaker 1: to make their first Pro Bowl with the Bills this

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Speaker 1: year twenty eighteen. Interesting exchange today on Colin Cowhard Show.

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Speaker 1: Colin's on Fox Sports. I believe right. Yes, he's a

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Speaker 1: very talented talk show guy. But he had Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns quarterback first overall pick in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield on the Colin Coward Show today. We wanted

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Speaker 1: to play a portion of that for you because interesting dynamic.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 1: You see a little bit of the fire from Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: They were talking about touchdown celebrations for Baker Mayfield during

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Speaker 1: his collegiate career. Listen into this. It's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 8: I feel like you're going for the fact that I'm

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Speaker 8: not a team guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm selfish.

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Speaker 3: Is that where you're shooting out right here or well?

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Speaker 1: It is a no, I don't think that. I think you.

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Speaker 9: I think sometimes your judgments just a tad off, and

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Speaker 9: I think the NFL is a judgment league because the

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02:10:16,520 --> 02:10:18,800
Speaker 9: game is so fast, you have to meet the windows

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02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:21,280
Speaker 9: gets really really tight and really really small. You gotta

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Speaker 9: make decisions really really fair. In college, you got that

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02:10:24,040 --> 02:10:25,800
Speaker 9: Orlando Brown guy got a little more time.

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Speaker 6: I don't love that decision.

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02:10:26,920 --> 02:10:27,440
Speaker 3: I don't love it.

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Speaker 1: The celebration.

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Speaker 8: Do you see what people do in the league now,

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Speaker 8: celebration wise hip thrusting.

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Speaker 1: Not a fan.

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02:10:33,640 --> 02:10:34,880
Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of hip thrust.

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02:10:34,920 --> 02:10:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 9: I don't like when Antonio Brown's doing that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm not into it. You know, what have you do?

2742
02:10:40,920 --> 02:10:43,520
Speaker 1: You have your celebration and no, I have nothing.

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02:10:43,680 --> 02:10:44,200
Speaker 5: I have nothing.

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Speaker 8: You're just gonna give the ball apparently, I think I

2745
02:10:46,320 --> 02:10:47,280
Speaker 8: need to just run away.

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Speaker 1: We didn't get all of it, but Baker Mayfield clearly

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02:10:51,240 --> 02:10:53,880
Speaker 1: uh call out out Colin Cowherd for criticizing the way

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Speaker 1: he celebrated some of his collegiate touchdown passes. I don't

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Speaker 1: blame him.

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02:10:58,160 --> 02:11:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was criticizing him for a game where after

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02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:05,560
Speaker 3: a touchdown he went off by himself over to the

2752
02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:09,879
Speaker 3: stands and kind of celebrated with people in the stands,

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02:11:10,240 --> 02:11:13,000
Speaker 3: and Coward said, well, why didn't you celebrate with your teammates?

2754
02:11:13,000 --> 02:11:14,520
Speaker 3: And he goes, well, did you watch the whole game?

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02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:17,640
Speaker 3: I threw three touchdown passes before that celebrated with my

2756
02:11:17,680 --> 02:11:20,280
Speaker 3: teammates for each of those three. He said, our band

2757
02:11:20,360 --> 02:11:22,880
Speaker 3: and our fans travel well, So I went over for

2758
02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:26,360
Speaker 3: the fourth touchdown and celebrated with them. That was his

2759
02:11:26,440 --> 02:11:30,800
Speaker 3: reasoning behind it. So once that happened, then Coward felt

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02:11:31,080 --> 02:11:33,120
Speaker 3: he felt Coward was painting him into a corner as

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02:11:33,120 --> 02:11:33,760
Speaker 3: a bad teammate.

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Speaker 1: Does Baker Mayfield come off as overly sensitive or as

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02:11:38,280 --> 02:11:39,120
Speaker 1: a strong defender?

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02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:43,000
Speaker 3: No, I think Coward was being a jerk. He was

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02:11:43,080 --> 02:11:47,080
Speaker 3: being a jerk. I being a jerk there, yeah, and

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02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:49,800
Speaker 3: Mayfield called him out on it. Good for him, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's being a jerk.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I like Coward, but I do think it

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Speaker 1: almost came off as Colin Coward was kind of introducing

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield to the NFL Wave celebration. And I don't

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Speaker 1: blame Baker Mayfield for taking offense.

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Speaker 3: No, I think he was well within his jurisdiction there, Yeah,

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02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:07,960
Speaker 3: based on what Coward was insinuating.

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Speaker 1: Time. Now for favorite part of the show, Chris NFL True,

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02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:13,600
Speaker 1: let's do it true or false? Brought to you by

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02:12:13,720 --> 02:12:17,320
Speaker 1: Yancey's Fancy New York's artists in cheese. What's true? What's false?

2777
02:12:17,360 --> 02:12:18,720
Speaker 1: We look at some of the headlines, some of the

2778
02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:20,839
Speaker 1: reports out there in the NFL and try to decide

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02:12:21,120 --> 02:12:24,040
Speaker 1: what really means anything. How about this one NFL true

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02:12:24,080 --> 02:12:26,440
Speaker 1: and false? And it came up earlier today in our

2781
02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:30,520
Speaker 1: conversation with bred Ganiel, Shack Lawson is on the Bills

2782
02:12:30,640 --> 02:12:34,320
Speaker 1: roster bubble now. Bred Ganiel told us that Shaq Lawson

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02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:36,560
Speaker 1: has the potential to be a breakout player for the Bills.

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02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:40,720
Speaker 1: Others ESPN, most notably recently, have said he could be

2785
02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:44,520
Speaker 1: cut maybe the next bust former first round bus Lawson

2786
02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:46,600
Speaker 1: on the Bill's roster bubble. Chris, I'll let you go

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02:12:46,720 --> 02:12:47,200
Speaker 1: first on this.

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02:12:48,440 --> 02:12:51,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say false based on what I've seen this spring.

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02:12:51,680 --> 02:12:54,000
Speaker 3: I think his head's in the right place, He's got

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02:12:54,040 --> 02:12:55,600
Speaker 3: his body in the best shape of his life. He

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02:12:55,680 --> 02:12:57,680
Speaker 3: intends to make it even better in the six weeks

2792
02:12:57,720 --> 02:13:00,840
Speaker 3: he's away from the team, and I think once you

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02:13:00,960 --> 02:13:03,200
Speaker 3: put the pads on, provided he can continue the kind

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02:13:03,240 --> 02:13:05,240
Speaker 3: of play I'm telling you right now. He was the

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02:13:05,360 --> 02:13:09,480
Speaker 3: most disruptive defensive lineman in practices here in the spring,

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02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:14,680
Speaker 3: batted passes, hurrying up the quarterback, getting whistles to blow

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02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:16,680
Speaker 3: the play dead for what would be a sack in

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02:13:16,760 --> 02:13:21,000
Speaker 3: full contact kind of practice. The guy was the most

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02:13:21,080 --> 02:13:25,360
Speaker 3: disruptive force on the defensive line on a consistent basis

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02:13:25,600 --> 02:13:28,400
Speaker 3: through the OTAs and the mini camp practices. Now, I

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02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:30,400
Speaker 3: know what the pads aren't on yet, and that has

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02:13:30,440 --> 02:13:32,440
Speaker 3: to come in camp. But if he can carry that

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02:13:32,760 --> 02:13:37,560
Speaker 3: kind of playmaking ability into training camp, I don't think

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02:13:37,560 --> 02:13:39,320
Speaker 3: he's on a roster bubble at all. I think he

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02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:44,400
Speaker 3: starts and may start over Trent Murphy. So I think

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02:13:44,440 --> 02:13:47,400
Speaker 3: he's got some momentum going for him right now. And

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02:13:47,600 --> 02:13:52,480
Speaker 3: I'm telling you he looks considerably quicker off the line

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02:13:53,560 --> 02:13:55,560
Speaker 3: than he has the first two years. And I even

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02:13:55,560 --> 02:13:57,480
Speaker 3: asked Jerry Hughes, I said, help me out when you're

2810
02:13:57,520 --> 02:14:01,360
Speaker 3: watching practice tape, I said, his shack a lot faster

2811
02:14:01,480 --> 02:14:03,240
Speaker 3: off the line this year. He says, oh yeah, is

2812
02:14:04,320 --> 02:14:07,480
Speaker 3: like no hesitation. And Jerry's not one that hands out

2813
02:14:07,520 --> 02:14:10,000
Speaker 3: bouquets to people, you know what I mean. So I figured,

2814
02:14:10,040 --> 02:14:12,120
Speaker 3: let me go to Jerry and get the what's what

2815
02:14:12,480 --> 02:14:15,800
Speaker 3: on shack like he does he look as fast as

2816
02:14:15,880 --> 02:14:19,280
Speaker 3: I'm seeing him on the field live, and he said, no,

2817
02:14:19,560 --> 02:14:22,600
Speaker 3: no question, he is faster. He has got his body

2818
02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:24,960
Speaker 3: right and he's got the right frame of mind for

2819
02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:27,120
Speaker 3: this season he goes. So I'm excited to see what

2820
02:14:27,160 --> 02:14:29,720
Speaker 3: he can do. And I was like, if he gets

2821
02:14:29,720 --> 02:14:33,040
Speaker 3: a stamp of approval from Jerry, then things are looking up.

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02:14:33,080 --> 02:14:33,840
Speaker 3: So I say false.

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02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go false on this too. Look, Chack Lawson

2824
02:14:37,040 --> 02:14:39,880
Speaker 1: could be cut. I don't think it's likely. I don't.

2825
02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:41,680
Speaker 1: I certainly don't think he's on the bubble.

2826
02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:43,560
Speaker 3: Going save on half of his salary if you do,

2827
02:14:43,840 --> 02:14:44,520
Speaker 3: if you trade.

2828
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:46,360
Speaker 1: Him, he could be I don't think it's likely, and

2829
02:14:46,880 --> 02:14:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he goes into camp on the bubble

2830
02:14:49,160 --> 02:14:52,400
Speaker 1: or worried about that. There's a certain maturity about Chack

2831
02:14:52,480 --> 02:14:54,839
Speaker 1: Lawson now that was not there last year or especially

2832
02:14:55,120 --> 02:14:56,720
Speaker 1: two years ago when he came in as a first

2833
02:14:56,800 --> 02:14:58,800
Speaker 1: round draft pick, and I think that served him well

2834
02:14:58,880 --> 02:15:02,640
Speaker 1: as serving him well as Chris talks about his conditioning

2835
02:15:02,720 --> 02:15:05,080
Speaker 1: and his approach and his attention to detail. So I'm

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02:15:05,120 --> 02:15:07,160
Speaker 1: going to false on this one as well. NFL True

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02:15:07,200 --> 02:15:10,600
Speaker 1: or false. Number two Jacksonville Jaguars will not make the

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02:15:10,640 --> 02:15:16,640
Speaker 1: playoffs again in twenty eighteen. USA Today dot Com, their website,

2839
02:15:16,920 --> 02:15:19,680
Speaker 1: which deals with the NFL for the win as a

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02:15:19,720 --> 02:15:22,000
Speaker 1: list of four teams four playoff teams from a year

2841
02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:24,400
Speaker 1: ago that will not make the playoffs. They include the Bills.

2842
02:15:24,400 --> 02:15:26,760
Speaker 1: By the way, they say the Bills won't, but Jacksonville

2843
02:15:27,040 --> 02:15:29,480
Speaker 1: not only did they make the playoffs, the Jaguars got

2844
02:15:29,680 --> 02:15:32,520
Speaker 1: deep into the playoffs last year. Do they make it

2845
02:15:32,640 --> 02:15:35,480
Speaker 1: this year? True? False? I'll say true. The Jaguars will

2846
02:15:35,560 --> 02:15:37,160
Speaker 1: not make the playoffs last year. I think they are

2847
02:15:37,480 --> 02:15:40,560
Speaker 1: hampered by quarterback play. Again. I think they had a

2848
02:15:40,640 --> 02:15:43,560
Speaker 1: defense that came around at the right time last year.

2849
02:15:43,600 --> 02:15:45,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if they can count on that again.

2850
02:15:45,800 --> 02:15:49,640
Speaker 1: I think the schedules a little tougher, and then I

2851
02:15:49,800 --> 02:15:55,200
Speaker 1: think their competition in the division is tougher. If Andrew

2852
02:15:55,280 --> 02:15:57,480
Speaker 1: luck is back at Indy, that's a different game for them.

2853
02:15:57,840 --> 02:16:00,960
Speaker 1: If you know, with Mike Malarkey gone and Tennessee, I

2854
02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:02,880
Speaker 1: think Tennessee might be a little bit better this year.

2855
02:16:02,960 --> 02:16:06,000
Speaker 1: So no, I say I don't think the Jaguars will

2856
02:16:06,040 --> 02:16:07,760
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I think that's true. Chris.

2857
02:16:08,480 --> 02:16:10,839
Speaker 3: I think their defense alone can get him to the playoffs.

2858
02:16:11,480 --> 02:16:14,680
Speaker 3: They kind of prove that last year, but their schedule

2859
02:16:14,960 --> 02:16:18,080
Speaker 3: is considerably tougher. They're playing a first play schedule number one,

2860
02:16:18,680 --> 02:16:23,800
Speaker 3: so even in your out of conference or your interconference games,

2861
02:16:23,880 --> 02:16:26,800
Speaker 3: you're playing a first place schedule, which means they're playing

2862
02:16:26,840 --> 02:16:30,240
Speaker 3: a team like the Chiefs. You know, they got to

2863
02:16:30,280 --> 02:16:33,680
Speaker 3: play first place squads. They also play the AFC East,

2864
02:16:33,720 --> 02:16:35,800
Speaker 3: which means they got to play New England, and they

2865
02:16:35,840 --> 02:16:37,720
Speaker 3: play the NFC East, which means they have to play

2866
02:16:37,720 --> 02:16:41,600
Speaker 3: the defending Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles and the Cowboys.

2867
02:16:41,680 --> 02:16:47,560
Speaker 3: Though they're not a perennial playoff contender, they usually provide

2868
02:16:47,840 --> 02:16:50,400
Speaker 3: tough competition just because of the talent level they have

2869
02:16:50,520 --> 02:16:54,960
Speaker 3: on their roster. So it's not easy cross divisional games

2870
02:16:55,000 --> 02:16:57,760
Speaker 3: that they have to play. So I don't think it's

2871
02:16:57,800 --> 02:17:01,200
Speaker 3: gonna be easy. And Blake Portals is always a question

2872
02:17:01,320 --> 02:17:03,200
Speaker 3: mark as to what you're gonna get out of that offense.

2873
02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:05,560
Speaker 3: You have Leonard Fournecho down for four weeks, you may

2874
02:17:05,600 --> 02:17:06,160
Speaker 3: have a problem.

2875
02:17:06,200 --> 02:17:07,240
Speaker 1: So what do you got, tour or false?

2876
02:17:07,440 --> 02:17:09,720
Speaker 3: I'm I'm man, I'm right on the fence, I've got

2877
02:17:09,760 --> 02:17:11,960
Speaker 3: a wedgie, I've got I'm on the fence. So bad,

2878
02:17:12,320 --> 02:17:15,320
Speaker 3: so I'm just gonna I'm gonna say true here. I'm

2879
02:17:15,360 --> 02:17:17,800
Speaker 3: gonna say their defense carries them to the playoffs, but

2880
02:17:17,800 --> 02:17:19,039
Speaker 3: I don't think they get as far as they did

2881
02:17:19,160 --> 02:17:19,520
Speaker 3: last year.

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02:17:19,520 --> 02:17:21,760
Speaker 1: All Right. Finally, NFL true or false? And this came

2883
02:17:21,840 --> 02:17:25,160
Speaker 1: up earlier in the show where there Brad Ganiel about

2884
02:17:25,240 --> 02:17:29,280
Speaker 1: the supporting cast surrounding NFL quarterbacks trur or false. Patrick

2885
02:17:29,360 --> 02:17:32,120
Speaker 1: Mahomes Kansas City, a first year starter, has the most

2886
02:17:32,440 --> 02:17:35,480
Speaker 1: support of any other quarterback in the league. That's what

2887
02:17:35,640 --> 02:17:37,960
Speaker 1: Brett Ganiel wrote. He had the Bills thirty first he

2888
02:17:38,040 --> 02:17:41,200
Speaker 1: and the Jets thirty second. I would submit that the

2889
02:17:41,280 --> 02:17:45,080
Speaker 1: Steelers I think have more proven talent around Ben Roethlisberger.

2890
02:17:45,240 --> 02:17:47,039
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go false on this. I don't think

2891
02:17:47,280 --> 02:17:49,600
Speaker 1: Mahomes has the most support, but I think he has

2892
02:17:49,640 --> 02:17:52,039
Speaker 1: a lot of support, and certainly many teams would take

2893
02:17:52,040 --> 02:17:54,920
Speaker 1: the kind of skill position players that Kansas City puts

2894
02:17:54,959 --> 02:17:56,080
Speaker 1: on the field with Pat Mahomes.

2895
02:17:56,160 --> 02:17:58,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna bend the interpretation of this question just a

2896
02:17:58,879 --> 02:18:04,600
Speaker 3: little bit and say true, because he's the guy who

2897
02:18:04,800 --> 02:18:08,440
Speaker 3: needs the most support and has it. You know, you

2898
02:18:08,480 --> 02:18:11,360
Speaker 3: can argue Ben Roethlisberger doesn't really need all of that

2899
02:18:11,720 --> 02:18:15,000
Speaker 3: to be successful. I mean Le'Veon bell is you know,

2900
02:18:15,160 --> 02:18:18,279
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl, Pro Bowl running back, Pro Bowl wide receiver.

2901
02:18:18,480 --> 02:18:21,439
Speaker 3: He does not have a Pro Bowl tight end. Mahomes

2902
02:18:21,560 --> 02:18:24,560
Speaker 3: does have that. He's got Kelsey, He's got a Pro

2903
02:18:24,640 --> 02:18:27,640
Speaker 3: Bowl receiver in Tyreek Hill, and he's got the leading

2904
02:18:27,720 --> 02:18:30,280
Speaker 3: rusher in Kareem Hunt in the backfield. And they also

2905
02:18:30,360 --> 02:18:35,320
Speaker 3: added Sammy Watkins to be a complimentary weapon. So to me,

2906
02:18:36,959 --> 02:18:39,760
Speaker 3: I think it's true. Mahomes has the best supporting cast

2907
02:18:39,840 --> 02:18:43,560
Speaker 3: and for a first year starter, second year player at quarterback,

2908
02:18:44,160 --> 02:18:46,440
Speaker 3: I don't know they could ask for much more other

2909
02:18:46,520 --> 02:18:48,200
Speaker 3: than maybe the Dallas offensive line.

2910
02:18:48,959 --> 02:18:50,960
Speaker 1: He'll take it. He certainly will take it. All right.

2911
02:18:51,040 --> 02:18:55,039
Speaker 1: That's NFL True or False? Presented by Yance's Fancy New

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02:18:55,120 --> 02:18:56,880
Speaker 1: York artisan Chiefs Chris and I back with more in

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02:18:56,920 --> 02:18:59,800
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02:19:00,000 --> 02:19:02,680
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Speaker 1: Alarm and home theater provider the Buffalo Bills a couple

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Speaker 1: of good guests today. Brad Ganiel from a Bleacher Report

2920
02:19:33,640 --> 02:19:36,400
Speaker 1: joined us today. You talk about Shaq Lawson, his pick

2921
02:19:36,480 --> 02:19:39,600
Speaker 1: as the breakout candidate for the Buffalo Bills in the

2922
02:19:39,640 --> 02:19:42,440
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen season. He is what Brett Ganiel had to say.

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02:19:44,520 --> 02:19:46,240
Speaker 6: You know, there's not a lot of patients left in

2924
02:19:46,320 --> 02:19:49,440
Speaker 6: this league. We know that it almost doesn't matter what

2925
02:19:49,560 --> 02:19:52,240
Speaker 6: position you're at, you're expected to perform by that second

2926
02:19:52,320 --> 02:19:55,000
Speaker 6: or third season. This is year three for a first

2927
02:19:55,120 --> 02:19:59,320
Speaker 6: round pick. And you know, we've heard some good things

2928
02:19:59,440 --> 02:20:03,240
Speaker 6: this off eason, and obviously health has been a factor

2929
02:20:03,320 --> 02:20:07,120
Speaker 6: there with with the ankle. So if he's healthy and

2930
02:20:07,200 --> 02:20:09,240
Speaker 6: he can continue sort of the momentum that he's built

2931
02:20:09,920 --> 02:20:13,000
Speaker 6: this offseason, there's no reason to think he can't potentially

2932
02:20:13,120 --> 02:20:15,600
Speaker 6: be a guy who puts it all together right.

2933
02:20:15,640 --> 02:20:18,879
Speaker 1: Genio thinks he could be the breakout candidate. Some people

2934
02:20:18,920 --> 02:20:22,520
Speaker 1: think he could be released. A bust, make or break

2935
02:20:22,600 --> 02:20:26,119
Speaker 1: season for Shaq Lawson. It appears also on the show today.

2936
02:20:26,120 --> 02:20:29,160
Speaker 1: Earlier this hour, Tyler Palumbus joined US eight years in

2937
02:20:29,200 --> 02:20:31,600
Speaker 1: the league as an offensive lineman a center for various teams,

2938
02:20:31,680 --> 02:20:35,000
Speaker 1: including the Denver Broncos. He is now the sideline reporter

2939
02:20:35,120 --> 02:20:37,960
Speaker 1: on the Denver Broncos radio network. We asked Tyler Palumbus

2940
02:20:37,959 --> 02:20:41,000
Speaker 1: about case Keenum and whether the success that Keenum had

2941
02:20:41,040 --> 02:20:43,440
Speaker 1: in Minnesota could carry over to the Broncos this year.

2942
02:20:46,040 --> 02:20:48,000
Speaker 4: We know that he's a solid player. You just don't

2943
02:20:48,080 --> 02:20:50,360
Speaker 4: last that long in the league unless you are do

2944
02:20:50,520 --> 02:20:52,680
Speaker 4: We know for a fact that what we saw last

2945
02:20:52,760 --> 02:20:56,040
Speaker 4: year is who case Keenum is. Well, of course not.

2946
02:20:56,280 --> 02:20:59,400
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, that's one year of a couch

2947
02:20:59,440 --> 02:21:01,560
Speaker 4: hut of rawa the plan. I think it's about eight years.

2948
02:21:02,320 --> 02:21:04,920
Speaker 4: That's one year of about an eight year career that

2949
02:21:05,600 --> 02:21:08,640
Speaker 4: he really stood out. So I think it's reasonable to

2950
02:21:08,720 --> 02:21:11,280
Speaker 4: still wonder is this legit? It's that's who he is.

2951
02:21:11,440 --> 02:21:14,200
Speaker 4: It's he a superstar. I don't know if he's going

2952
02:21:14,280 --> 02:21:16,320
Speaker 4: to be a superstar, but I do know that he's

2953
02:21:16,440 --> 02:21:17,000
Speaker 4: very solid.

2954
02:21:18,480 --> 02:21:20,760
Speaker 1: Oh that's what they think about Tyler Plumbus or what

2955
02:21:20,879 --> 02:21:24,240
Speaker 1: Tyler Plumbus thinks about kese Keena Mountain, Denver On Twitter today,

2956
02:21:24,320 --> 02:21:25,800
Speaker 1: we asked the question and we got a few calls

2957
02:21:25,840 --> 02:21:28,640
Speaker 1: on this as well. Which Bills offensive player will make

2958
02:21:28,720 --> 02:21:31,240
Speaker 1: their first Pro Bowl in twenty eighteen, not an alternate

2959
02:21:31,280 --> 02:21:33,240
Speaker 1: in previous years. I thought it was a good question

2960
02:21:33,320 --> 02:21:36,240
Speaker 1: because I didn't think there was a real solid lock

2961
02:21:36,400 --> 02:21:39,560
Speaker 1: choice for the first Pro Bowl defense. Maybe you'd have

2962
02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:42,240
Speaker 1: more success finding him. But the final results on our

2963
02:21:42,280 --> 02:21:44,920
Speaker 1: Twitter poll, and we had more than two thousand votes

2964
02:21:44,959 --> 02:21:48,720
Speaker 1: in forty seven percent of you voted Kelvin Benjamin as

2965
02:21:48,800 --> 02:21:51,080
Speaker 1: the Bill's offensive player who will make his first Pro

2966
02:21:51,160 --> 02:21:54,000
Speaker 1: Bowl this year. Twenty seven percent of you had second

2967
02:21:54,080 --> 02:21:56,480
Speaker 1: year left tackle Dion Dawkins. I like that, that's good.

2968
02:21:57,040 --> 02:22:00,720
Speaker 1: Thirteen percent had Charles Clay, which is an interesting number.

2969
02:22:00,720 --> 02:22:03,520
Speaker 1: I think an interesting candidate for this. Thirteen percent had

2970
02:22:03,560 --> 02:22:06,520
Speaker 1: someone else in mind. I'm glad people voted. I would

2971
02:22:06,520 --> 02:22:09,400
Speaker 1: have voted for Dawkins. I think Benjamin has a chance

2972
02:22:09,440 --> 02:22:11,560
Speaker 1: as well. But I think it's a really interesting question.

2973
02:22:11,560 --> 02:22:13,280
Speaker 1: I thought the results might be a little closer than that.

2974
02:22:13,440 --> 02:22:17,120
Speaker 3: Chris, Yeah, I mean, I think Dawkins is a good pick.

2975
02:22:17,680 --> 02:22:18,120
Speaker 1: Benjamin.

2976
02:22:18,120 --> 02:22:20,520
Speaker 3: You're depending on a little bit more stuff happening. Yeah,

2977
02:22:21,560 --> 02:22:24,800
Speaker 3: you know, getting the ball, targets, who's your quarterback? Where

2978
02:22:24,879 --> 02:22:26,320
Speaker 3: Dawkins just kind of has to go out and do

2979
02:22:26,400 --> 02:22:30,280
Speaker 3: his job, run blockwise past blockwise. The offense I think

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Speaker 3: would have to have some measure of success, particularly shady,

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Speaker 3: but I think as long as he continues along his

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Speaker 3: current level of production, Dawkins stands a good chance of

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Speaker 3: getting there. Absolutely, especially with guys like Joe Thomas not

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Speaker 3: you know, retired, there's some vacancies there at left tackle

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Speaker 3: in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see how it turns out. Best tweet of

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Speaker 1: the day, best the news of the day, I hate

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Speaker 1: it has to be Joe Kelly's report. Jim Kelly had

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Speaker 1: more surgery today right in New York City, and a

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Speaker 1: couple of hours ago about one o'clock, Joe Kelly has

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Speaker 1: one tweeted out when Jim tells the antestesiologist after surgery

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Speaker 1: that he needs a cold corps light. That sounds like

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Speaker 1: a successful surgery for Jim. That's good news. I think,

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Speaker 1: best news of the day so.

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Speaker 3: Far, right, And it was always on the schedule. This

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Speaker 3: disappointment with this clean up, you know, or whatever measure

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Speaker 3: of surgery it was, this was on the schedule. This

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Speaker 3: wasn't some unintended thing that came up and he had

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Speaker 3: to go back in again. This was on the schedule

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Speaker 3: for their plan all along. Chris, Thanks for this great

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Speaker 3: to be working with you, and you'll enjoy your vacation. Man,

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Speaker 3: you enjoy We catch some big ones on that lake.

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Speaker 1: Chris will be around here for a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: helping out with Steve Taskers. Starting next week.

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Speaker 3: We need photo evidence of fish though we do not

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Speaker 3: believe any fish stories without photo evidence.

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Speaker 1: I'll put it out. You can put it on the

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Speaker 1: air right, hopefully it'll be big.

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Speaker 3: I'll take it. Yeah, we'll get it up.

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Speaker 1: Do that all right, thanks Chris. Production assistants George Blast,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Colton, Nick Thomas, honald Or, Kelly Rude, JJ Turrito,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Cargis, James Robot, our producer Jay Harris, and no

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Speaker 1: show tomorrow because of hockey, because of instigators. The show

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Speaker 1: returns on Monday at noon. One Bill's Live from One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Dry. I'm on Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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