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Speaker 1: Jerome was telling us earlier that you wake up every

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Speaker 1: day with a chip on your shoulder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a big strength of yours. How does

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Speaker 2: that come about? Why is that?

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Speaker 1: How do you maintain it?

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Speaker 2: Because it's hard to do everything.

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Speaker 3: I mean really really just going back to my roots,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like three star recruit out

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Speaker 3: of high school, you know what I'm saying, I really

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Speaker 3: didn't get much love coming out of high school and

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Speaker 3: just going through the stuff I went through in college,

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Speaker 3: saying five years and then obviously being undrafted, like you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, So it's not really hard for

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Speaker 3: me to wake up with a chip on my shoulders,

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Speaker 3: just you know what I'm saying. But I feel like

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of moving past that point of just trying

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Speaker 3: to prove people wrong instead of you know what I'm saying. Now,

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of to the point to where, like the

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Speaker 3: people who are in my corner, I'm just gonna try

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Speaker 3: to prove them right, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's just how I feel about that. You

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Speaker 2: never want to.

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Speaker 1: Get playing time or get an opportunity at teammates injury,

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Speaker 1: but truth is flots injured right now, what kind of

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Speaker 1: opportunity is this next week for you to kind of

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Speaker 1: win that job?

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Speaker 2: I mean, definitely a huge opportunity.

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Speaker 3: And then again, I don't think I'm just trying to

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Speaker 3: take this opportunity to go win a job. Like every

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Speaker 3: time I step gonna practice field, I'm trying to win

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Speaker 3: a job, you know.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying. So there are reps that I get.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Those are valuable reps cause

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like I went from last

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Speaker 3: year I really got. I didn't get any rest with

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Speaker 3: the ones and the two's really so now I'm getting

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Speaker 3: some reps, you know what I'm saying. So I just

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Speaker 3: take every opportunity to practice game, whatever it may be.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Just try to maximize that.

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Speaker 2: So or you're actually told you weren't gonna play the

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Speaker 2: fresh pre season.

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Speaker 3: Then at first I was like me, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, But it kind of one of those things.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, really again, not too much overreaction or

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Speaker 3: underreaction about it. Just whatever they asked me to do,

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm gonna do, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So it seemed the first day of practice.

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Speaker 4: You pop somebody really early in the game, and I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: I going, is this guy making a statement? I mean,

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Speaker 4: is that what your intention is every play?

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, definitely, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I just like I said, getting back

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Speaker 3: to my roots again, Like I never was a guy

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Speaker 3: that was you know what I'm saying, one of those

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Speaker 3: top guys or whatever. So whatever I can do to

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Speaker 3: stand out with my coaches and my teammates, that's what

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So when you're lining up on the other side of

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Speaker 2: the leak, what are you seeing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you can tell that he's different from

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Speaker 3: everybody else when you line up against him, know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. So when you line up against him, you

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Speaker 3: definitely got to be locked in, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: He's explosive, he's a smart football player, and he's at

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Speaker 3: the end of the day, he's a competitor, and I

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Speaker 3: think that's what makes him what he is, Like he's

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Speaker 3: going to compete at the highest level.

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Speaker 1: So you're not a doctor. I'm not asking what happened,

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Speaker 1: but it is your heart in your throat at all.

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Speaker 1: When you see him on the sideline getting checked out

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Speaker 1: at the end of practice today.

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Speaker 3: I mean I didn't even know he was on the

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Speaker 3: side line getting checked out. I mean, obsolutely we want

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Speaker 3: him to be okay. But you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: I probably find more about that when I go in.

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Speaker 2: So Nick, when you.

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Speaker 4: When you get to a point where you're you do

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Speaker 4: a bunch of things for teams and you're valuable in

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Speaker 4: everything you do, is there ever any point where it

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Speaker 4: works against you? Like I want, I just want to

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Speaker 4: be a I want to be a starter. Put me

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Speaker 4: on the outside, let me go prove myself. But because

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Speaker 4: of all the other things that you do, is it

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Speaker 4: ever a hindrance that they look at you and say, well,

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Speaker 4: he's too valuable in these other spots that we can't

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Speaker 4: put him here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you just gotta kind of look at it

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Speaker 3: glass half for a glass alp end, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. So it's perkson, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: pros and cons to both. But I mean, I just

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Speaker 3: try to come out here every day and just compete

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Speaker 3: at the highest level wherever they put me.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, So the question Arch just

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Speaker 1: asked you is a question we asked. We used to

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Speaker 1: ask Julian Love like every day for three years. I'm

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Speaker 1: wondering if you see some of yourself and Julian and

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Speaker 1: if it's inspiring to see what once he set it

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Speaker 1: into what he's become. He just got like a twelve

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year contract.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean definitely. I mean you said it yourself,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Me and j Love were

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Speaker 3: really close. You know what I'm saying. We're definitely the

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Speaker 3: same type of player. Smart football player can do a

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Speaker 3: lot of things. So you know what I'm saying. It

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Speaker 3: worked out for him, So I'm just I'm saying on

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Speaker 3: my knees praying that it's gonna work out for me too,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So when you have a.

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Speaker 1: Question, is there a specific teammate in the secondary maybe

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Speaker 1: or not the secondary that you go to now? Is there?

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean Dan Dame Belton, He is

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Speaker 3: a pretty smart football player, so Jpen, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, we got a lot of guys that's

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Speaker 3: smart football players, So I mean, whatever that whatever kind

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Speaker 3: of advice that they can give me or you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, whatever they can help catch me up

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Speaker 3: on moving from position to position. It definitely helps because

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Speaker 3: I definitely needed sometimes moving.

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Speaker 2: Around like this.

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Speaker 1: I just want you to know I wasn't insinuating anything

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Speaker 1: about smart football players.

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Speaker 3: I think you're all smart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Have you have giving you any kind of cool nickname?

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Speaker 1: They used to call Julian duct Tape and they're giving

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Speaker 1: you any.

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Speaker 2: Kind of cool nick name not his nick.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of How would you

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Speaker 4: describe Bobbio Karaky and what he means to this defense?

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Speaker 2: One kind of team that he is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's just one of the best leaders that

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Speaker 3: I've been around, you know what I'm saying. Like he told,

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Speaker 3: he holds hisself to hot standards, so it's nothing for

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Speaker 3: him to hold everybody else to standing because he does

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Speaker 3: it itself day in and day out. So that's I mean,

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Speaker 3: you can't really ask much more of him, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So is there something about do you think your personality

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Speaker 4: that you know, going back to what Tom said that

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Speaker 4: first day you were digging in and that nickel, the

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Speaker 4: idea of fighting, you know, fighting tooth and nail with

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Speaker 4: a teammate, and that going back to that chip that

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Speaker 4: you enjoy being able to just man up on somebody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that it goes back to the chip.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Like I wake up every day like feeling like I

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Speaker 3: got to prove myself, no matter where I'm at on

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Speaker 3: the depth chart, no matter.

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Speaker 2: What the circumstance may be. Like, I wake up every day.

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Speaker 3: One to be in the toughest situation, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So you didn't, You didn't.

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Speaker 4: Necessarily go to you know, that small school somewhere out

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Speaker 4: and you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to make it somewhere It's a lot

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Speaker 3: of background behind that too, though, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So