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Speaker 1: you listening right now have children, have grandchildren, maybe nieces

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Speaker 1: on a young Tennessee man just scrubbed in sunshine. Brian McKenzie.

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I'm Nancy Grace. This is

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here on

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Speaker 1: Fox Nation and Sirius XM one eleven. Let's kick it

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Speaker 1: off with sound from our friends at w nb J,

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Speaker 1: NBC thirty nine. This is reporter Camilla Ruda. My son

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Speaker 1: been this many days, six days now, twenty one year

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Speaker 1: old William Brian Mackenzie was last on Friday, September twenty seventh.

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Speaker 1: He was like, yes, Mom, Yes, I'm going to be home.

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Speaker 1: That's what this sounds like. With me, an all start

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Speaker 1: panel to figure out as best as we can what happened.

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Speaker 1: Nicole Parton with me Crime online dot Com investigative reporter,

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Speaker 1: renowned New York psychologists joining us out of Manhattan. Karen

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Speaker 1: start at Karenstark dot com. Former FBI special agent, Jeff Cortes,

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Speaker 1: Ashe Wilcott judge, trial lawyer, anchor at Court TV at

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Speaker 1: Ashe Wilcott dot com. Ricky d Alexander from Tennessee, missing

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. You're welcome. Thank you

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Speaker 1: the day before Brian William Brian McKenzie goes missing. That

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Speaker 1: day that morning, was it like every other day or morning? Well,

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Speaker 1: me let me understand, Francis you stayed home. Where did

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Speaker 1: I was recruited to start at Danny's. Okay, So you

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Speaker 1: were both at Danny's. Yes, And he also worked at Danny's. Yes.

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Speaker 1: I recruited him from from IHAB Okay, so you guys

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Speaker 1: Camill at Ruda. The next morning, Mackenzie was supposed to

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Speaker 1: Missing and unsolved. So often, Ricky, I have investigated, prosecuted

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Speaker 1: man he gave to whom he gave a ride. Take

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Speaker 1: a listen to clant Island w BBJ seven. During the hearing,

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Speaker 1: Jackson Police Department investigator Joseph Williams read Murphy's statement about

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Speaker 1: the September twenty fifth shooting that killed Julio Almirez and

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Speaker 1: injured Joe Ramirez. Investigators say Murphy bought a gun from

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Speaker 1: Almirez before the shooting, but investigators say after Almeres refused

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Speaker 1: to drive into Academy Sports to buy more bullets, Murphy

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Speaker 1: decided to shoot him. Almirez died three weeks later from

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Speaker 1: his injuries. The second shooting was October fourth, where Murphy

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Speaker 1: is accused of shooting Thomas Curry and Vincent Regi Jr.

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Speaker 1: He came with. Investigators say Murphy told Curry he needed

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Speaker 1: a ride to his girlfriend's house. Please say during that drive,

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Speaker 1: Murphy shot Curry. I decided Tom I shot him. I

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Speaker 1: shot him once. Currey died at the scene. Okay, why

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Speaker 1: do we care about a seemingly unrelated shooting. That was

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Speaker 1: Jackson Police investigator Joseph William reading statements from a guy

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Speaker 1: named Keenan Murphy in court detailing the shooting of two

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Speaker 1: guys two days before Brian goes missing September twenty five,

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Speaker 1: and a shooting on ten four, and both cases Keenan

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Speaker 1: Murphy was getting a ride from the victims. I want

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Speaker 1: you to now take a listen to Miss sing An

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Speaker 1: America host Jerry Dean. Listen at about five thirty two,

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Speaker 1: Brian and his mom talking on the phone. He let

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Speaker 1: Francis know that he was on his way home, he

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Speaker 1: would be home in the next little bit. And initially,

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Speaker 1: you know, Francis believed Brian was being that reassurance because

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Speaker 1: of the situation that was going on. The phone call

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Speaker 1: is a very very important piece of the puzzle because

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Speaker 1: the suspect who Brian gave a ride to, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to name any names. The names are out

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Speaker 1: in the media, but I personally don't want to give

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Speaker 1: this monster any more credit than what he already has.

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Speaker 1: This man was able to repeat word for word Brian's

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Speaker 1: phone call with his mom. What it's so significant. That

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Speaker 1: means that whoever he gave a ride to is still

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Speaker 1: with him when he calls his mom Francis at five

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Speaker 1: thirty two, because he could recount that conversation word for word.

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Speaker 1: And to Nicole Parton, who did he give the ride? Two?

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Speaker 1: He gave the ride to a gentleman, twenty one year

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Speaker 1: old Keenan Murphy. This is the same guy that's the

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Speaker 1: alleged shooter in the other cases. That's correct. He is

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Speaker 1: accused of shooting four other men in very similar circumstances

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Speaker 1: where he had asked them for To Ricky Alexander, what

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Speaker 1: do you make of it, I think it's very I

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Speaker 1: think the answers to this entire saga law with Keenan Murphy.

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Speaker 1: I think Kena knows exactly what happened with Braun. I

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Speaker 1: think Keena knows where Braun is and you know he

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Speaker 1: he will no longer cooperate with investigators. And we, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we are absolutely desperate to know what happened and why.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, Keenan's crimes occurred within a ten

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Speaker 1: day span. We know spree um. We know Keenan was spiraling.

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Speaker 1: This This was not I mean, this was completely out

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Speaker 1: of the normal for Keenan. We know We know something

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Speaker 1: had to occur in Keenan's loft for him to go

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Speaker 1: on foot a spiral because from all we know Keenan.

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Speaker 1: You know, Keenan was a broad kid, and um we

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Speaker 1: know that Braun absolutely did not know Keenan beforehand, and

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Speaker 1: umwe just gave him a ride and now he's never

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Speaker 1: seen again. Absolutely, I want you to take a listen

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Speaker 1: to our friends at w B B J seven, Clint Island.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to give up until I find him,

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Speaker 1: because I know that he would not give up on me.

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Speaker 1: Francis Gaines is the mother of William Bryan Mackenzie, at

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Speaker 1: Jackson area man who went missing on September twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: shortly after leaving work around five thirty at night. On

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Speaker 1: Sunday morning, a group of nearly thirty people came together

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Speaker 1: a Northeast middle school to continue the search. He was

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Speaker 1: last seen in the area of Bermuda Drive and Greenview

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Speaker 1: off of Christmasfield Road, near the oape Field community in

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Speaker 1: northeast Masson County. And we know from this area he

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Speaker 1: would have went to the southwest somehow, or at least

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Speaker 1: been traveling west to go back on North Island South

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Speaker 1: so that's kind of the area. That's what brings us

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Speaker 1: back to this general area. Sergeant Stanfield says they're still

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Speaker 1: looking for any clues that could help in the investigation.

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Speaker 1: We have not received any tips since this disappearance in

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Speaker 1: the initial publication, which is very unusual in a case

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Speaker 1: like this, so any hell would be greatly appreciated. They

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Speaker 1: divided into two groups and searched the nearby area, some

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Speaker 1: on foot, others and cars for his mother to support.

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Speaker 1: Means the world where's can describe it. There is a

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Speaker 1: guid I missed my son. To top it all off, guys,

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Speaker 1: some texts have been being sent to Brian's mom. Transis

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Speaker 1: what can you tell me about these texts? You're talking

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Speaker 1: about the ransom and I'll read him. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm just putting you through so much asking these questions.

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Speaker 1: I'll read them. I know where your son is, but

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Speaker 1: I won't tell you by selfish bitch, keep the money

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Speaker 1: for his funeral. I can't read the rest because they're

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Speaker 1: they're so awful about what is being done, what they

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Speaker 1: say is being done to your son, about torture and

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Speaker 1: what they are doing to him. Rickie Alexander, who was

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Speaker 1: sending her these horrible texts. We know that the phone

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Speaker 1: number these texts are coming from is registered to some

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Speaker 1: scam organization in South Africa. We spent a lot of

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Speaker 1: time with the detective. He was able to thoroughly trace it.

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Speaker 1: This is a part of a new it's very sickening, Nancy,

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Speaker 1: but it's part of a new modern age scam where

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Speaker 1: you know they're not calling your typical well social Security recipient.

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Speaker 1: They're scouring the internet for these families who are absolutely desperate,

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Speaker 1: just like Francis, and they are. They're scamming them out

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Speaker 1: of lots of money. They're horrible. Now you can see

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Speaker 1: his neck is getting wide. It's one of the side

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Speaker 1: effects of illicit drugs I injected him in him It

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Speaker 1: chokes a lot and makes air passages difficult. If you

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Speaker 1: want further proof, you get the effing credit cards now

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Speaker 1: and I will drive down again and let him, let

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Speaker 1: you talk to him with my sale number. These are

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Speaker 1: the texts this mom is getting. This is the pain

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Speaker 1: that she is enduring. On top of looking for her

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Speaker 1: missing son. Someone is torturing her with these horrible texts

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Speaker 1: claiming they have him and they are torturing him, and

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Speaker 1: she's got a hand over credit cards to hear him

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Speaker 1: speak to her. It's awful. It's just another scam on

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Speaker 1: an innocent victim. Guys, if you have information on this

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Speaker 1: wonderful boy, please help us, Please help Francis. The tipline

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Speaker 1: is seven three one four two five eight four hundred.

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Speaker 1: Go to crime online dot com read all the details.

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Speaker 1: Please let's give her peace and Francis please know that

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Speaker 1: we are praying. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off, goodbye friend,