1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:00,280 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 2: I am Rashaan McDonald. I host this weekly Money Making 3 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Conversation Masterclass show. The interviews and information that this show 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: provides are for everyone. It's time to start reading other 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: people's success stories and start living your own now. If 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: you want to be a guest on my show, please 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: visit our website, Moneymakingconversations dot com and click the BO 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: guest button. 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Please welcome to the Money Making Conversation Masterclass. 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: Jennifer Barbosa. 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: How you doing, Jennifer, I'm wonderful for Sean, how are 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: you now? 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: This doesn't sound like one of those jobs that you know, 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: just you. I want to go out there and be 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: a supply I want to go out there be a supplier. 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: How did you get in the supply of business? 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: Well, I first started just by deciding that I wanted 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: to do business with the government, and I thought of 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: what can what does the government need that they will 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: always need and can potentially keep me in a lasting business, right, 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: So I first started with office supplies. The government needs 29 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: to supply. They're the largest customer, they spend the most 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: money in the world, and they do not do everything themselves. 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: They always contract out. So they were my first target. 32 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: Now as it is from Jennifer. Now, you know, I 33 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: would think that they would already have a relationship with 34 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: like a big company. You're talking about supplies. You talking 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: about when you say supplies, we talking about notepads, pencils 36 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: or janitor everything. 37 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: Okay, anything you can think of the government purchase. 38 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they have a relationship already and how were 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: you able to get into that Because a lot of 40 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: people want to do business with the government, so they do. 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: Have standing relationships. But the government is required to consistently 42 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: look for best cost prices on services and products that 43 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: they consume and purchase, so they do that through RFQs 44 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: or RFPs, and sometimes they give out contracts for a 45 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 3: certain period of time and then they reassess their budget 46 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: and costs. 47 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 4: And also they. 48 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: Have what are called p cards, which are purchase cards 49 00:02:54,240 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: where office departments can make smaller purchases below a certain 50 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: threshold without requiring UH to go out for a bid 51 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: and requesting multiple quotes. And as long as the vendor 52 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: or company is registered within their system, is in good standing, 53 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: UH pays their taxes, then they can then purchase and 54 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 3: do business with them. 55 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: Okay, now you are in a male dominated business. I'm 56 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: assuming and very much he lands when I say that, 57 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: that's a nond just statement and in your small business 58 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 2: trying to crack through that door. How did Jennifer pull 59 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: it off? 60 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: I think some of it was probably delusional and not 61 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: that's how you're I just went made a decision and 62 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: went for I didn't didn't have to that we think 63 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: about all of the challenges come up again, I think 64 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: was probably what most entrepreneurs do, and in our own 65 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: best interest, because if you make you decide that you 66 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: want to go into business, and you consider all of 67 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: the challenges, all of the hurdles, all of the setbacks 68 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: that potentially can UH come up against you, then that 69 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: can be very daunting and make you second guess about 70 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: going into business. And so I'd say I really did 71 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: not consider that I was going to be in a 72 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: male dominated industry. I just knew that I wanted to 73 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: start up another business that had other businesses and actuality. 74 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 3: Most of the businesses that I've owned were male dominated. 75 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: There was no fear. There was no fear. 76 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: No fear, no fear. That's a good thing or bad things. 77 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: A good thing because sometimes tear stops us, stops us 78 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: from pursuing our dreams. People, fear stops us relationships. Fear 79 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: just stops us from moving seeing an opportunity because you 80 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: don't know what that opportunity you will be. The fear 81 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: of moving in that direction will stop us and it 82 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: may be the best decision in your life. So in 83 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: that person's life, So you say, Rashan, maybe I was, 84 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: Maybe I should have had. I love the fact that 85 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: you were fearless, and that's important. But here's an interesting question. 86 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: Now when you say you're a supplier, the number one 87 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: question that comes in my mind do you have to 88 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: have inventory? Do you have to have money set aside 89 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 2: to be able to buy supplies? So when somebody calls 90 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: you for supplies, you have to immediately deliver. How does 91 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: that work? 92 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: So it all depends on your business model. If you 93 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: are doing business with the government or most corporations, you 94 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: would need to have money because most of their payment 95 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: systems of processes are on term payments, which means that 96 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: they provide a purchase order to you. You supply and 97 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: deliver the items that they requested at the cost that. 98 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: You've agreed upon, and then they. 99 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: Will and then once you've delivered, you can then invoice 100 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: them and that invoice is due for payments, whether it's 101 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: NET thirty which is thirty days from date of delivery, 102 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 3: or NET fifteen or NET sixty, net ninety, whatever that 103 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: agreement is. So that means that you would need. 104 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 4: To have the funding or the credit. 105 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: Readily available to be able to source supply ship at 106 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: your cost and not receive payment until the due date, 107 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: which is usually NET thirty. But then of course you've 108 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 3: got to consider, you know, not everyone pays on time. 109 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: Right now, let me ask you this. Jennifer Bobosa, she's 110 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: the CEO and founder of International Supply Partners i s P. 111 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: Now let's go back a few years because I introduced you. 112 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: In your introduction, I said a word that I never 113 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: knew nothing about until COVID PPE. What does PPE mean? 114 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: PPP stands for personal protection equipment. 115 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: Now, when I okay, continue so I can get into 116 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: my next question, I apologize. 117 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: No, that's fine, and so it literally means what it says, 118 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: personal protection equipment. But it can what it identifies is 119 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: going to vary according to the industry that you're in. 120 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: Well, when I when I heard it, it was tied 121 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: to mask. That's what I heard. Mask. You know, all 122 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: I heard was Ppe deliverables, Ppe deliverable masks. Now doing 123 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: that era of that period, which is the country got 124 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: shut down and we had distances and you had to 125 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: fly our fly on the plane with a mask. But 126 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: I noticed during that period it was a mean I 127 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: was paying fifteen twenty dollars a mask when it first 128 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: came out. Okay, talk about that pricing discrepens and how 129 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: did that happen like that? 130 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: Well, it was a combination of things. One a demand, 131 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: a huge influx of demand on the product. And whenever 132 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: there's an influx of demand there costs will go up. Right, 133 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: whether the well price will go up rather cost may decrease, 134 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: may increase or may stay the same, but demand will 135 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: always dictate pricing. 136 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: Now, so where were you at, you know, when the 137 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: when the COVID had happened, and did you see it 138 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: coming because you you know, you supplyed PPEs, you know, 139 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: the whole mask situation, the supply chain, that's all I 140 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: heard these There was a lot of buzzwords that was 141 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 2: out doing COVID. The supply chain. Part of your vernacular 142 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 2: is that word? So when you how did you react 143 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: when you saw these tremendous pricing differences on masks and 144 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 2: what were your thoughts? 145 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: So I was very close to a lot of the 146 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: manufacturing and understand what was going on. Before we were 147 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: shut down. I was receiving communications from my manufacturers, who 148 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: we had sourced a lot of our office and janitorial 149 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: supplies from, asking inquiring if we wanted any ppe whether 150 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 3: it was masks or gloves, coveralls, a variety of different items. 151 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: And at first I was, you know, perplexed, because I'm like, well, well, 152 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 3: you guys make paper or you make plastic bags, Like 153 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: why are you selling these medical products? But what was 154 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: happening and the other part of the world is they 155 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: were already aware of what was going on and what 156 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: was to come, and so a lot of factories were 157 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 3: converting their production from what they typically produced to producing 158 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: these ppe that were going to be in high demand. 159 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: So that was the first indication that I had. Now 160 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: also understanding, being that close to the manufacturing is understanding 161 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: what the true cost is. And because of the demand also, 162 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: you know the price is going to go up, and 163 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 3: part of it has to do with what was going 164 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 3: on in the supply chain. So there was a demand 165 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 3: of raw materials that needed to get to the factories. 166 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 3: Then there was a demand of increase of production, which 167 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: means there is a demand of the machinery to make 168 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: those products. And then there's a demand for the logistical 169 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: shipment of those products, which means containers that move products 170 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: are now being reserved or being monopolized by these ppe. 171 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: So other essential products that we're needing, or toys or 172 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 3: anything our everyday items were being kind of pushed to decide, 173 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: so it becomes a domino effect. Now at the same time, 174 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: there was an influx of people and businesses who were 175 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 3: not in the medical industry. We're not in the supply industry, 176 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,599 Speaker 3: we're not in supply chain whatsoever, but saw an opportunity, 177 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: whether it's because of their access to the financing or 178 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: the relationships that they had, jump into this industry. So 179 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: you saw a huge influx of new businesses that were 180 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: supplying PPE for whatever reason, and they knew that the 181 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: demand was there. The government was purchasing at astronomical volumes, 182 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: and hospitals and facilities and schools and government and local 183 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 3: state governments and other agencies were all purchasing and business 184 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: was not as usual. And what that puts at put 185 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: to that is where now the sellers of these PPE 186 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 3: have maths and they have more power in regards. 187 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 4: To demanding the payment terms. 188 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: So the net term payment was no longer an option 189 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: for hospitals and the government. Everyone was paying upfront because 190 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: there's a huge frenzy of getting everything as quickly as 191 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 3: possible and it was almost like a grab. And then 192 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: also who paid the most got the most or got 193 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 3: their products first and fastest. So something that may have 194 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 3: typically cost like a case of masks, for example, may 195 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: have before the pandemic cost a case of one thousand 196 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 3: masks might have cost let's say one hundred dollars during 197 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 3: the pandemic, that same case of one thousand masks could 198 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,479 Speaker 3: have easily cost one thousand dollars. 199 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: Well, I know I was a person who purchased high 200 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: price mask, you know, because I didn't have another option. 201 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: You know, my employees, I wanted them to come to work. 202 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: I didn't like I work at a creative media company 203 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: and to achieve that, you know, you're engaging with each other. 204 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 2: And so I purchased masks, and I was paying anywhere 205 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: from ten to fifteen dollars. So if you hear Rasheon 206 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 2: McDonald paying ten to ten to fifteen dollars for a mask, 207 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: what would you say? Am I being ripped off? Or 208 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: was I being ripped off? 209 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 3: Personally, I would have felt that you were definitely being gouged, 210 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 3: definitely paying more than necessary. 211 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Jenn, What's what's the difference between ripped off and gouged? 212 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: You know, I'm just trying to help, you know, I 213 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: said ripped. 214 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: Off thanks an over exaggeration of aw. 215 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: I thought you want to be professional, you know, I'm 216 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: just going, hey, does somebody rip me off? Where rashion? 217 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: You may have been guys, I don't want to. 218 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what their true making those master but 219 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: that was. 220 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 5: As please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with 221 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 5: more money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money 222 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 5: Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rashaan McDonald. Money Making Conversations 223 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 5: Masterclass continues online at Moneymakingconversations dot com and follow money 224 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 5: Making Conversations Masterclass on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 225 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: I would like to bring guests guests on my show 226 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: that only education and hopefully educates me because products that 227 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: are being made available out there locally, nationally, internationally, is 228 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: being produced right in or being being manufactured, being distributed 229 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: right in this city of Atlanta. And the CEO of 230 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: founder of this company, International Supply Partners, is Jennifer Barbosa. Now, 231 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: when we talk about procurement and specializing in safety PPEs, 232 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: which we just had a long conversation about industrial, janitorial 233 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: and construction supplies, and we're talking construction flies. If you 234 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: need them in New York, if you need them in California, 235 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: you need them in Texas, you need them in Chicago. 236 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: She makes them available through her company. Now, how are 237 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: we able to be able to pull that vision out 238 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: because everybody starts local, Jennifer, But then all said, you see, 239 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: you know, something I really can become, you know, nationwide 240 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: and then global. When did that hit you or what 241 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: enabled you or did you get investors into your company 242 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: that enabled you to see that vision and make that 243 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: vision happened. 244 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: So originally I was working through distributors, local distributors and 245 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: finding that I could not compete, especially against big box companies. 246 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: And then I realized, you know, coming from you know, 247 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 3: an international immigrant family. My parents are from the Cape 248 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,479 Speaker 3: Bird Islands in West Africa. They both worked in manufacturing 249 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: when they moved here to the US, so I had 250 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: the experience and knowledge of manufacturing. And my grandfather used 251 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: to import and export abroad between the US and Cape 252 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: Verds and as well as my grandmother, so they were 253 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: entrepreneurs as well. And so I when I realized that 254 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: I could not compete with the business model that I 255 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: had at the time, I was like, well, let me 256 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: just I need to get to the source. And so 257 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: I started reaching out to manufacturers both local as well 258 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: as international and developing those relationships, establishing partnerships and figuring 259 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: out how can I be more competitive? 260 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 4: And during the pandemic, my network. 261 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: Grew exponentially because of my current relationships and continuously looking 262 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: at what was going on and figuring out what the 263 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: supply chain is. So if you understand supply chain, it's 264 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 3: a map, it's a puzzle, and you want to understand 265 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: how things move and how things are made from the 266 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: very beginning. So even understanding, okay, plastic, how many things 267 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: do we utilize on a day to day that is 268 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: made out of plastic. If there's a shortage or something 269 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 3: in plastic, why is there a shortage? What is plastic 270 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: made of? Well, plastic is made out of petroleum is 271 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 3: only source in certain parts of the world, So then 272 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: you have to look at why is there a shortage 273 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 3: of plastic? There must be something that's happening with petroleum. 274 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 3: And then you look at what's going on in the 275 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: different parts of the world to understand what is changing 276 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 3: impacting the movement of that raw material or petroleum in 277 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: this instance, that is slowing things down or causing a shortage, 278 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 3: and then follow the dots and so when you do that, 279 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: you'll understand, Okay, where are things sourced. Every part of 280 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 3: the world is good at making something, whether it's sourcing 281 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 3: the raw material or producing manufacturing a certain product. And 282 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 3: so if you understand that you'll understand where things are done, 283 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: where it's made, and how it travels across the world, and. 284 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 2: That's how you compete. Now here's something that's been making 285 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: a lot of buzz in the news is diversity, equity 286 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: and inclusion. And how's your company? Well you heard that 287 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: versus basically public announcement and what was your thoughts and 288 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: how did you react to that as far as your 289 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 2: company and how you are going to champion or you 290 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: understand to go with the flow? What was your thoughts, Jennifer. 291 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 3: So, we've been certified as minority owned, woman owned, disadvantage 292 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 3: owned certification both federal and state, local, city, local, and 293 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: other associations since we started the company. So we started 294 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen November twenty sixteen. We were certified by 295 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: March of twenty seventeen. 296 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 4: But that is not. 297 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 3: How we've led in business. They were tools to leverage opportunities, 298 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: but I never wanted to lead the company and what 299 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 3: we do as well, just you know, you should do 300 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: business with us because we're a black owned company, or 301 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: you should do businesses because we're a woman owned company. 302 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 3: You should do business with us because we provide quality 303 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 3: products and services and we operate as a partner and 304 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 3: understand what is going to improve your operations. 305 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 4: And so this. 306 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 3: The way that they're trying to disseminate THEI is just 307 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 3: a manner of trying to, in my opinion, deter businesses, 308 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 3: whether black, small women owned, from doing business. Now, there 309 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 3: will always be challenges, and we're constantly challenged. But if 310 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 3: you are only looking to or expecting people to do 311 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 3: business with you because you're a small business or a 312 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: minority owned or a woman owned, then you're not going 313 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: to be in business much longer anyway. 314 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 5: Mm hm. 315 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: So my response to it was no response. 316 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. 317 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: We're going to still continue to do business. We have 318 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 3: clients that do business with us because of what we 319 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 3: do and how we support them, not just because of 320 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 3: who started a company. 321 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: Agree with you or do I really do? And I 322 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: appreciate your response to that because I tell people all 323 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: the time. I remember in the summer this past summer, 324 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: I told my staff, I said that, you know, as 325 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned, DEI stopped it like two years ago. 326 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 2: You know, it always celerated with you, George Floyd, and 327 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: they start backing off of it, and you start seeing 328 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: Republican l at states because politics play a role in it, 329 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: started accusing and start pointing out educational flaws they thought 330 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: would happened in a certain institution. And I'm not even 331 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: giving creteness things to say that out loud, But what 332 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 2: I will say is that you are approaching it definitely 333 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: the right way from a competitive standpoint. I just happened 334 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 2: to be a minority. I just happened to be a 335 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: person of color. But when you're doing business, now, there's 336 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: a beauty of it. Now, if you want to do 337 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: business with me because I am a minority, because I 338 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: am a person of color, I welcome you. But my 339 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: company is designed to do business no matter who or 340 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: what I am, and that's how you win long term. 341 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 2: And I really appreciate you making that statement out loud 342 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 2: because people need to understand it. Don't allow people to 343 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: slap you in the face or denounce you, or belittle 344 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: of you or make you feel like you inferior. Now, 345 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 2: if you, like you said Jennifer, if you base your 346 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 2: company on that type of model, I'm black, I'm a woman, 347 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: do business with me. I think as what you are 348 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: not going to last because and I like to believe 349 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: that most people have not done that model like that, 350 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: because that's not a fair model to yourself and that's 351 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: not a winning model because in the end, you're going 352 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 2: to get the small budget, the EEDBD budget that they 353 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: set aside for companies that are seeking that type of relationship. 354 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: You trying to get the big budgets. You better come 355 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: in there competing with a with a platform and a 356 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 2: presentation that you can deliver. No matter who you are. 357 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 2: You just happen to be a minority. Now when we 358 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: talk about you as a company and you as an 359 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: inspiration because you are a woman, you're a single mom, 360 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 2: you know, and you're in a male dominated industry. How 361 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: does one reach out to you or how does one 362 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 2: find your website to be able to, you know, participate 363 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 2: in the type of supplies that you offer both locally, 364 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: both for domestically and internationally. 365 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 3: So you can find us online at International Supply Partners 366 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: dot com. Are handles for social media is also the 367 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: same International Supply Partners dot com. You can also email 368 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 3: us at info that's I NSS and Frank Oh at 369 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 3: biz that's b as in Bravo i Z as a 370 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: Zebra supply s upp l y orders O R D 371 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 3: as in Delta E R S as in Sam dot Com. 372 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you some Jennifer. I still have some 373 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: of those masks that I was ripped off. I saw 374 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: him the other day. So when you when I saw 375 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: I was prepared for this interview, I gotta ask Jennifer 376 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 2: about these mans. Did I get ripped off? And she goes, no, 377 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: you just price gouged. You're fantastic. Thanks you for coming 378 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: on Money Making Conversation master Class. And I always know 379 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: this is your home, your voice. I built this show 380 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 2: with my fans and with people wanting to hear about 381 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: influencer and you are an influencer. You are a motivator, 382 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: and you're an entrepreneur and more importantly, you make people. 383 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: And everyday people realize it's possible. If you had a 384 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 2: closing statement that say to my listeners, what would it be, Jennifer. 385 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 3: I would say, you know, sometimes you just how to 386 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: operate fearlessly and delusional if you want to attain certain dreams, 387 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: and listening to everyone is definitely not going to get 388 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 3: you where you want to be. So you've got to 389 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 3: ignore the noise and focus on what you're wanting to do. 390 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: I mean, it's your only capable of what you believe 391 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: you're capable of, and go after it. 392 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 2: I appreciate you well again. Thank you for coming on 393 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: money Making Conversations master Class and I hope people use 394 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: the contact information to grow your brand and your business 395 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: even larger. Thank you for coming on our show. Appreciate you. 396 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: This has been another edition of Money Making Conversation Masterclass 397 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: posted by me Rashaun McDonald. Thank you to our guests 398 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: on the show today and thank you our listening to 399 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: the audience now. If you want to listen to any 400 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: episode I want to be a guest on the show, 401 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: visit Moneymakingconversations dot com. 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