Speaker 1: Previously on number one Dad Herry, Gary ruber Sacks here,
Speaker 1: I was able to track down your dad's cell phone number. Hello, Hey,
Speaker 1: how's it going, Gary?
Speaker 2: No, it's Lebron James.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, Lebron James.
Speaker 2: So do I owe you money?
Speaker 3: Is that what you're called?
Speaker 1: No? I was just just calling. I mean I have
Speaker 1: a family of my own, and I'm a father now too,
Speaker 1: so I know time has gone by. If you're in
Speaker 1: town next week, maybe we do something next week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be in next week.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Well I'll be in touch and okay.
Speaker 4: Good good, all right, and you can tell me more.
Speaker 3: About you and I'd love to see you, Sullivan. Who
Speaker 3: am I?
Speaker 1: Well, guess what, I have to meet my dad, dad,
Speaker 1: and it's not going to be so easy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well my dad is not your typical dadda.
Speaker 2: And yeah he's well he's.
Speaker 1: A criminal, that's for one. So we got that on
Speaker 1: our hands. I haven't talked to the guy in twenty
Speaker 1: four years. What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: That's it? I just kid.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, tomorrow's the day I am going to meet
Speaker 1: my dad after all this time. What do you think
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 6: I honestly never thought that I would ever witness this.
Speaker 6: If you were to ask me a couple of years ago,
Speaker 6: even six months ago, if I ever envisioned you meeting
Speaker 6: with your dad, the answer would have been absolutely not.
Speaker 6: So I think it's pretty crazy. I mean, how are
Speaker 6: you feeling is more of the question.
Speaker 1: You know, this whole process is crazy because it was like,
Speaker 1: yesterday I spoke to my mom and I also spoke
Speaker 1: to my father, and that's the first time I've spoken
Speaker 1: to both of them in the same day in twenty
Speaker 1: some odd years. Yeah, so that's crazy to me.
Speaker 6: Your mother would lose her mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she knew, right. She doesn't know where we're at
Speaker 1: in this at all. So this is heavy stuff. So
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm keeping a lot of secrets and
Speaker 1: that's tough. And I just hope that this all obviously
Speaker 1: plays out well and my dad and I can have
Speaker 1: a truthful conversation. Hopefully he's a different person than a
Speaker 1: person that wants to be a better father, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess, no matter how old you are, you still
Speaker 1: need a dad.
Speaker 6: Are you gonna be nice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean.
Speaker 6: Sometimes your overall demeanors kind of like a dick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't des about that.
Speaker 6: Like even people who you like, you're kind of an asshole.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna I'm trying to go in with
Speaker 1: as much positive of an attitude as possible, but also
Speaker 1: there are things I need to say to him that
Speaker 1: I haven't said before. There's so much that needs to
Speaker 1: be done in our relationship. And that's what you know. Obviously,
Speaker 1: this what it's what it's about, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. This is number one, Dad.
Speaker 7: The recorders in my bag, I have that as a mic.
Speaker 7: I have the zoom Age six, the standard podcast recorder
Speaker 7: with the mic sticking out of my bag. I have
Speaker 7: I have that. Which is it? It lends in so well,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to take a picture after this and
Speaker 7: send us here just to show you how concealed it is.
Speaker 8: However, I love it. I love how brown you are.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know I am just the way like I
Speaker 7: taped everything. It's really it's taped pretty well. I just
Speaker 7: hope that it it stays. But I mean, Michael Gold
Speaker 7: plans that I get there before my dad.
Speaker 1: As I drove into Manhattan to meet my father at
Speaker 1: the Second Avenue Delhi, I spoke to my friend and
Speaker 1: producer Adam Lowett. We spoke about the fact that I
Speaker 1: haven't exactly told my dad I'm doing a podcast. I'll
Speaker 1: save that for later.
Speaker 8: You think your dad's going to show an hour early.
Speaker 7: I hope not. I assume I'll be early. I don't
Speaker 7: think this is a meeting you're late tips, especially.
Speaker 4: If you're here right.
Speaker 7: I figure, you know, it's realistic that he could be
Speaker 7: a half an hour early.
Speaker 8: I was thinking about something that he said on your
Speaker 8: phone call, and I thought it might be a helpful
Speaker 8: way in for you, which is he said, look, I
Speaker 8: still have the house. We have a lot of good
Speaker 8: memories of that house. A lot of bad stuff happened too,
Speaker 8: but I don't like to focus on the bad. I
Speaker 8: want to focus on the good. And I I think
Speaker 8: that you can say that that really stuck out to you.
Speaker 7: I really agree, and that's that same I mean the
Speaker 7: same way, that same thing I felt. That is something
Speaker 7: that stuck out to me. It's like, and he's the
Speaker 7: you know, I'm still in his eyes, still this child
Speaker 7: he doesn't know me as an adult, and him saying
Speaker 7: that is an easy way for him to just not
Speaker 7: deal with it himself. But it's like you were the
Speaker 7: cause of the bad. Let's address that. Let's let's talk
Speaker 7: about that. You know, it doesn't have to be all
Speaker 7: about the bad. Obviously, I'm here not to completely relive
Speaker 7: all the horrible things that place, but I want to,
Speaker 7: you know, I want you to be aware that it
Speaker 7: happened and feel some remorse and that I address it.
Speaker 7: Something I do want to say is, just like the
Speaker 7: way I felt growing up, is that you put me
Speaker 7: in the middle of your marriage and everything that was
Speaker 7: going wrong somehow if it could involve screwing fur over,
Speaker 7: you had no problem screwing meals and you know, something
Speaker 7: with like lunch money, where it'd be like I'd ask
Speaker 7: you for lunch money and you'd say, go ask your mom.
Speaker 7: It's like, I'm like your son asking you for two dollars.
Speaker 7: What's the big fucking deal?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I mean I could get it too.
Speaker 7: You know the whole dog thing too, where it's like
Speaker 7: it took my dog and you said that I wasn't
Speaker 7: getting it back until the divorce was final. I never
Speaker 7: saw my dog again after I was fifteen years old.
Speaker 8: Is there any chance of him going That's not how
Speaker 8: that happened.
Speaker 7: It's very possible, and I'll be like, all right, I
Speaker 7: mean like if you don't think any of that happened,
Speaker 7: then you know. I mean, there's not much more I
Speaker 7: can say, but that's how I remember it exactly. How's
Speaker 7: your strawma, Let's play this out.
Speaker 8: What is the worst case scenario how this lunch goes.
Speaker 7: I think worst case he goes in for a kiss
Speaker 7: and swiped me the tone.
Speaker 8: And then rip open your backpack and then goes, yes.
Speaker 7: He's the mic immediately and I split my throat after
Speaker 7: he made out. Yeah, it says he's like who you were?
Speaker 7: You were you with at and T then and then
Speaker 7: they come back to me. Just never thought it be you.
Speaker 7: He actually just texted me he said, just missed my
Speaker 7: one twenty four out of and then he didn't finish
Speaker 7: his sentence, texted me. I just wrote back, Okay, I'm
Speaker 7: gonna see he's got the doss go and waiting for
Speaker 7: his next text.
Speaker 8: What would be hilarious if he was like, let's just
Speaker 8: do this another time? If he fucking bails on you?
Speaker 7: He wrote the next strain is two twenty four, which
Speaker 7: has arise at three twenty four penn station. Well, that's
Speaker 7: still work I'll say yeah, he's like sorry about that,
Speaker 7: and he gets all right, that's the first time you
Speaker 7: let me down.
Speaker 8: I'm sure you've had other lunches with twenty four years
Speaker 8: in the making that you've been laid for.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, But I just wanted to get this fucking
Speaker 7: thing over. With any of this stuff in general, you
Speaker 7: just have to be prepared that it's not going to
Speaker 7: go as we exactly have to play. It's always going
Speaker 7: to be some sort of thing that's gonna be not expected.
Speaker 8: Let me know how it goes.
Speaker 7: Oh well, later.
Speaker 1: I got to the city and walked around with my father. Now,
Speaker 1: being late, I had time to kill Unfortunately, when you
Speaker 1: grow up with a con man for a father, you
Speaker 1: learn not to believe everything they say. So now I'm
Speaker 1: left thinking, did he really miss his train? Was he
Speaker 1: tailing me the whole way in? Has he been walking
Speaker 1: a block behind me for the past half hour? I
Speaker 1: wouldn't put anything past him. Well, waiting to meet up
Speaker 1: with my dad, I called my buddy, comedian Sam Morrell.
Speaker 1: Sam has a strained relationship with his biological father and
Speaker 1: met him after a long time.
Speaker 9: I know that you have experience. I know you made
Speaker 9: your biological father, and just for my.
Speaker 4: Like, what was that? Like? Jeez, I mean I met
Speaker 4: my biological father when I was like nineteen, this is
Speaker 4: before you could you could profit off it doing a podcast.
Speaker 4: And you know, we met at a restaurant and it's weird,
Speaker 4: you go in. I mean I never met him ever.
Speaker 4: You grew up with your dad, so it's different. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I might have been better off that way though, I know,
Speaker 4: well you want that got to meet Mario Lemil and
Speaker 4: Patrick Ewing. You got all these great stories out of
Speaker 4: it at least, yeah, and a lot of scars to
Speaker 4: go along with it, so it was a worth But
Speaker 4: I'm an adult now and like I feel that I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna I'm not gonna be able to say everything
Speaker 4: that I want to say to him. But also I
Speaker 4: feel like it also wouldn't be the best time to
Speaker 4: say it. It's our first meeting.
Speaker 9: But did you get at it with him when you
Speaker 9: met your dad and try and express to him like
Speaker 9: all the wrong that he did and that hurt you
Speaker 9: were that he wasn't a part of your life and like,
Speaker 9: you know, had you approach.
Speaker 4: It, Oh man, No, not the first time. The first time,
Speaker 4: you just kind of like, oh wow, this is a
Speaker 4: crazy thing. It's kind of you're you're in shock a
Speaker 4: little bit because I'd only seen pictures of him. I
Speaker 4: didn't know him. So it's also hard the first to
Speaker 4: be like, hey, oh you're my biological dad. You're horrible
Speaker 4: of the caesar salad. It's a hard thing to just,
Speaker 4: you know, to do if you want to have a
Speaker 4: relationship with him, or to repair the relationship you you'll
Speaker 4: maybe tell him over time, But I don't think that's
Speaker 4: the thing you can just unload out of nowhere after
Speaker 4: all this time. I think that's and then also you'll
Speaker 4: see what he's capable of, what he can take, yeah,
Speaker 4: because he can't handle it. There's no point in telling him,
Speaker 4: I know. Does he know what he did? Is really
Speaker 4: the question? Right is he aware of the harmony did
Speaker 4: to you? So already you have to think about how,
Speaker 4: I mean, how would you feel as a father? I
Speaker 4: mean you're a different type of father, you know, yeah,
Speaker 4: so far how far doing you could turn out to
Speaker 4: be a bag? You know? Don't they don't know the
Speaker 4: ways in which it screws you up because they're gone,
Speaker 4: so so then you know they're gone. They're living this
Speaker 4: another life, and you're dealing with kind of what they
Speaker 4: did to you and and the aftermath of that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I have a question. Who's paying for the meal?
Speaker 9: Well, I'm definitely not going to off, you know, even
Speaker 9: when you know when we go out, I never do.
Speaker 7: So I'll just stick to what the practice.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, I realize I have a very paternal role
Speaker 4: in the now.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: I always pick it up the dam.
Speaker 7: I'm like approaching, I got it head over right now
Speaker 7: to to meet him.
Speaker 4: So, buddy, I appreciate it. Good luck man, you know,
Speaker 4: stay strong, don't don't give in too much, you know,
Speaker 4: and uh and take and you know, take take a
Speaker 4: breath or something. I don't know. I don't have any
Speaker 4: good advice for you. Just got to go and do it.
Speaker 9: Buddy, screwed me.
Speaker 4: I'm fucked. What about to give you dating advice? I'm like,
Speaker 4: before you meet him, masturbates. I got nothing good, just uh,
Speaker 4: just best of luck, man, I appreciate buddy.
Speaker 1: After talking with Sam, I eventually made my way to
Speaker 1: the second Avenue Deli. I grabbed a back booth and
Speaker 1: quickly set up my recording devices and then I waited.
Speaker 1: At four pm and over ninety minutes late, my dad,
Speaker 1: many veter arrived. He was neatly dressed, wearing a black
Speaker 1: Calvin Klin jacket, a short sleeve collar shirt, and blue jeans,
Speaker 1: hair parted and cleanly shaven. He looked exactly how I
Speaker 1: remembered him, just older, a little late.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, just fast day.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 1: My father and I shook hands. We sat down, and
Speaker 1: the waiter came over to take our order.
Speaker 10: You know, uh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean you have some shoes. Now, just do a sandwich,
Speaker 5: just a sandwich, Yeah, I'm good. Sandwich is planning. Can
Speaker 5: I do the brisket?
Speaker 3: What about fries?
Speaker 2: It comes with any sides or no? Oh yeah, just
Speaker 2: to pick on like cost.
Speaker 3: Just bring out some flies days.
Speaker 11: I'll have some metal share them with me, I hope,
Speaker 11: because I can't.
Speaker 8: Eat him there.
Speaker 12: Let me have a masi wall shoe. No, some nice
Speaker 12: big bills. I'll have a brisket sandwich. Uh, slice them
Speaker 12: lean the lean side, okay? On why you gotta see this?
Speaker 3: Why? Okay? Good? And what are you drinking?
Speaker 2: Water's fine?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: See this rye for me as well? Thank you?
Speaker 3: You go for physical every once in a while. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what are you gonna ask?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that's fine, but yeah.
Speaker 3: I was, you know, I gotta go and fi some
Speaker 3: more testing. And I think it's in two weeks. I
Speaker 3: had a stroke.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, breash stroke, backstroke.
Speaker 1: I think it's stilled the t I a so much
Speaker 1: for me trying to make a silly joke about my
Speaker 1: father's stroke. But it's kind of hard to have empathy
Speaker 1: for someone you can't trust.
Speaker 3: I had a bleed. Let's just go out of my head.
Speaker 2: How's the right side?
Speaker 3: Now that's right? S Yeah, both sides are good. Thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm glad.
Speaker 13: You reached out to me because I always wanted you
Speaker 13: to know what my health situation was.
Speaker 3: For yourself, it don't look that bad.
Speaker 5: I gained weight only because I eat like a big
Speaker 5: don't exercise, No, I never did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, well, when you were younger, I was
Speaker 3: going to the while the time I still have my
Speaker 3: life find membership there.
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, yeah, so you I donate furniture of them
Speaker 13: in the furniture business.
Speaker 3: You know, that's how I scammed it.
Speaker 1: If I had any doubts that I'd somehow been making
Speaker 1: up all this stuff in my mind about my dad
Speaker 1: being a con artist, him bragging that he scammed the
Speaker 1: lifetime membership to the y m c A by donating furniture.
Speaker 1: But all those doubts to rest.
Speaker 13: I'm happy to sitting here with you. I'm happy that
Speaker 13: you reached out to me. I really mean that.
Speaker 3: I said that. Some good memories, a lot of them.
Speaker 2: I have no regrets, have no regrets, well in any anything, Well,
Speaker 2: I mean see those even talked to you years. I
Speaker 2: have not talking a minute Janie or Danny.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I tried, things happened, and that's it.
Speaker 1: Of all the things I expected my father to say
Speaker 1: at our lunch, no regrets was not one of them.
Speaker 1: As we sat there, I brought up the topic of
Speaker 1: my childhood dog, Kobe. It feels crazy being in my
Speaker 1: late thirties still caring about a pet I had, But
Speaker 1: Kobe truly got me through living in that house. I
Speaker 1: told my dad how much it hurt that he took
Speaker 1: him from me.
Speaker 2: I didn't got to see him, you know, for all
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't see him for until I saw him the
Speaker 5: first eight years of his life, and I never got
Speaker 5: to see him again after that.
Speaker 3: How do you do? He was great sleuck with me
Speaker 3: every night, every night.
Speaker 12: And.
Speaker 2: Well, I would have liked to have him.
Speaker 3: There was nobody things why I was nobody really to me.
Speaker 14: I was told you had gotten a dog, and Cooper
Speaker 14: was the dog's name.
Speaker 5: I didn't get a dog, but I asked you if
Speaker 5: this is what happened, and you said, when the horse
Speaker 5: is over, that's when I could get Kobe back. And
Speaker 5: that was something i'd always upset, right, And that's why
Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I mean, that was something that always stuck
Speaker 5: with me because I never got to see my dog again.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm glad you're telling me about so I can tell
Speaker 15: you I'm sorry. I intentionally did not go back Hoby,
Speaker 15: seeing he would have probably have been better off with
Speaker 15: you than with me. All right, Bet it's a great dog.
Speaker 15: Yeah he was good.
Speaker 3: You like this, Rommy, Yeah, I don't. What about cornbys ah? Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it's the same cut of meat. So is this
Speaker 3: all the same kind of meat? Yeah? That makes sense.
Speaker 1: And that was it, the thing I couldn't get over
Speaker 1: in my childhood, the thing I thought about probably more
Speaker 1: than anything in the past twenty four years. I was
Speaker 1: finally able to say, and that was the response I
Speaker 1: got a quick apology, and then a lesson on the
Speaker 1: similarities between smoke meats. Not long after, I changed the
Speaker 1: subject to something my dad would enjoy talking about one
Speaker 1: of his scams. So I asked him about the time
Speaker 1: where he entered a local news contest for who had
Speaker 1: the worst first date story?
Speaker 2: What was the club met thing?
Speaker 3: There's something on TV about this.
Speaker 13: I guess anyone who has the best date story, Okay,
Speaker 13: we'll win a trip to Club D.
Speaker 3: I said, fuck it, I thought something right away.
Speaker 1: Here's something about my father that I can't stand. He's
Speaker 1: undeniably charming. That's why he's a great con man. Minutes earlier,
Speaker 1: the guy told me he never meant to keep my
Speaker 1: dog from me, and now he's got me laughing with
Speaker 1: him about another scammy polled.
Speaker 3: They said, look, we like you, come on TV and
Speaker 3: tell you a story. Yeah.
Speaker 13: I didn't know there were going to be two other
Speaker 13: people I had to compete against the story. His story sucked,
Speaker 13: so I knew I'm gonna blow them away.
Speaker 2: Well it was the story.
Speaker 3: The story I told was.
Speaker 13: I met this girl and she invited me back to
Speaker 13: her apartment and we sat down. She's very nice, very pretty,
Speaker 13: and we were talking, and then it was getting late
Speaker 13: and I decided that I don't think this girl was
Speaker 13: really for me. So I went to the bathroom and
Speaker 13: as I went to the bedroom, I passed the front
Speaker 13: door that we came in, and I noticed there were
Speaker 13: a couple of locks on it, but they were dead
Speaker 13: bolts without the thing that you turn so you could
Speaker 13: lock it with a key.
Speaker 3: I'm outside and lock it way, will open it either way.
Speaker 3: So I said, this is freaky, you know.
Speaker 13: So you're sitting and talking and she was getting really
Speaker 13: friendly with me.
Speaker 3: I said, gee, this is great, but it's our first day.
Speaker 13: And I looked at her and she had these eyes
Speaker 13: that looked like they were spinning in her head.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and I was frightened. I was really frightened. So
Speaker 11: it's like one o'clock in the morning. She hears the
Speaker 11: door opening and she says, get up, get up, Get up,
Speaker 11: my husband. So you didn't tell me you were married, Well,
Speaker 11: I told you my husband. I thought it was it
Speaker 11: was your ex husband is a pilot.
Speaker 3: She goes his flat, probably got canceled.
Speaker 11: You got to get out of him now.
Speaker 3: So I climbed out the bathroom window and that was it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it a true story.
Speaker 3: Bullshit, it's bullshit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember you telling me that I was a
Speaker 5: bullshit never happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought.
Speaker 3: But that's my talent. You have comedy and I'm a bullshit.
Speaker 1: And that's the disolation of my father. He looks at
Speaker 1: my hard work and compares it to his line. To him,
Speaker 1: those are to be equally revered.
Speaker 2: You follow hockey, stomach after you.
Speaker 3: I don't follow hockey anymore.
Speaker 1: You go to any hockey games every once in a while, Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I can, you know, but.
Speaker 10: I still I still like the garden. That's awesome. Have
Speaker 10: you ever gone back? They never gone back. Last time
Speaker 10: it was with you, it was a ranger game.
Speaker 3: It's left him. It was ever there. Yeah. By the way,
Speaker 3: I show you an article. Yeah, and you know he
Speaker 3: showed it to me.
Speaker 4: Donna.
Speaker 1: Donna is my father's girlfriend. Apparently they've been dating a while.
Speaker 2: Really, Oh yeah, she reads everything? And what did she
Speaker 2: think of it?
Speaker 3: Did she know it? The story? She did?
Speaker 14: He just knew that we were involved with hockey. And
Speaker 14: I said, she goes, Maybe he's trying to reach out
Speaker 14: to you. That's what she said to me. So I said,
Speaker 14: phone call away you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you saw the article.
Speaker 1: I when I put out the article, they like, you know,
Speaker 1: they interviewed me at Sports Usual.
Speaker 2: They wanted to make sure I wasn't bullshitting and I
Speaker 2: had to talk to two I want to say to you.
Speaker 3: They doubted that somebody's gonna They doubted it.
Speaker 2: Well, they doubted in the beginning until I was able,
Speaker 2: like I was. Fortunately, I had what I had. You know,
Speaker 2: I had pictures.
Speaker 3: I figured they were going to come and rust me.
Speaker 3: Oh no, they shipped my way out of it.
Speaker 2: Well I know exactly.
Speaker 3: Did you ever look me up on Facebook? Holt my
Speaker 3: picture to it? H the President of the.
Speaker 2: United States, current president, current president.
Speaker 3: How does a guy like me get to him? Yeah?
Speaker 13: You know, I had somebody from the Israeli ENDPA who
Speaker 13: knew me through someone. You said, I know this guy,
Speaker 13: you know when he saw the picture and they called
Speaker 13: me and.
Speaker 3: Said, we want to talk to you confidentially.
Speaker 16: Nothing goes best us. How were you able to get
Speaker 16: to Joe Biden? I said, well, I wasn't looking to
Speaker 16: get to Joe Biden. He was an afterthought. But he said,
Speaker 16: you got right to Joe Biden.
Speaker 13: I mean I did that to Obama too, you know, like,
Speaker 13: what's his name, Shasha bron calling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, same shit. Yeah.
Speaker 13: So when I see him doing his shit, I think, fuck,
Speaker 13: I did that ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I did that stuff already. I could get
Speaker 3: just anywhere I want to. It's just it's a townel
Speaker 3: and I have and it's the way I come.
Speaker 13: Of course, Yes, with people, no matter who they are,
Speaker 13: even the Secret Service, I have them standing with me
Speaker 13: taking pictures with me, which they normally it don't do because.
Speaker 3: They don't want their faces to be shot. I want
Speaker 3: to show you something two seconds of your time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I got I got a guy friend to America.
Speaker 3: That's your sister. What you both share the same blood.
Speaker 1: The video of my dad is playing on his phone
Speaker 1: is of my sixteen year old half sister, who until
Speaker 1: this very moment I had no idea even existed. I
Speaker 1: was completely stunned.
Speaker 2: It's very hilarious Parish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for his school.
Speaker 2: You guys from the projects go in Powis among friends.
Speaker 1: I expected meeting my father to have a surprise or two,
Speaker 1: but I definitely did not see this coming. I have
Speaker 1: another sister who's half my age and she's French.
Speaker 3: Everybody said it it's just like brandy and genuine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe one day I could tell.
Speaker 3: So I want you to meeting if he wants to.
Speaker 3: I'm not pushing you into anything, but I want to
Speaker 3: see you again. You want to see you again. I
Speaker 3: think that you know. Day by day I know you decide.
Speaker 3: I got to tell you something.
Speaker 13: I was very anxious about coming to meet you because
Speaker 13: I didn't want you to be angry with me.
Speaker 3: I understand I didn't know how you re end.
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of time.
Speaker 3: I mean, I got to ask you. Imatch that I'm not.
Speaker 3: You don't have to answer me. But what made you decide? Man?
Speaker 2: Curiosity? I feel that you know?
Speaker 5: I mean again, if you haven't talked in twenty four years, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I wanted to know what what you're up to.
Speaker 2: It's a big gap.
Speaker 1: What I really wanted to say was I'm here to
Speaker 1: show you I didn't end up like you. Then, after
Speaker 1: a forty five minute lunch twenty four years in the making,
Speaker 1: we finished up and headed to the register, where my
Speaker 1: father generously offered to pay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still have a.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know why I keep it.
Speaker 1: The cashier tells him his credit card expired five years ago.
Speaker 1: Who does this. My father said, it's in case he
Speaker 1: ever has to make a return to home depot, whatever
Speaker 1: that means. He finally paid with another card and we
Speaker 1: went our separate ways. But on my drive home, I
Speaker 1: couldn't stop thinking about my dad in that credit card.
Speaker 1: I could only assume it was another one of his
Speaker 1: scams to cop a free meal. And you know what,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have expected anything less. The man is who
Speaker 1: he is. On the next episode of Number One Dad,
Speaker 1: all right, I am in my old neighborhood. I am
Speaker 1: about to go into my house. This is pretty wild.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a lot. I haven't been in here
Speaker 1: fifteen that's when I left to go to boarding school
Speaker 1: and I never came back.
Speaker 4: There we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great picture of me playing hockey.
Speaker 3: You forgot about that picture? Yeah, I don't remember it.
Speaker 15: Yeah, you don't want to remember it because it has
Speaker 15: to do with me.
Speaker 1: Number One Dad is a production of Radio Point, Big
Speaker 1: Money Players Network and iHeart Podcasts, created and hosted by
Speaker 1: Gary Veeter. Executive producers are Gary Vetter, Adam Lowett, Alex Bach,
Speaker 1: Daniel Powell, Huston Snyder, Kenneth Slotnik, and Brian Stern, written
Speaker 1: by Gary Vetter and Adam Lowett, Produced by Bernie Kaminski.
Speaker 1: Co producer is Taylor Kowalski, Edited and mixed by Ian
Speaker 1: Sortino at Little Bear Audio. Recording engineer Is kat Iosa.
Speaker 1: Original music by Andrew Gross. Special thanks to Charlotte DeAnda.
Speaker 1: Jonathan carsh Is creative consultant Executive producers for Big Money
Speaker 1: Players Network and iHeart Podcast, ourt Will Farrell Hansani, and
Speaker 1: Olivia Aguilar. Sound services were provided by Great City Posts