WEBVTT - 2nd Ave Deli 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:04.640 Previously on number one Dad Herry, Gary ruber Sacks here, 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:11.520 I was able to track down your dad's cell phone number. Hello, Hey, 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:13.440 how's it going, Gary? 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.160 No, it's Lebron James. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.600 Yeah, Hey, Lebron James. 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:21.400 So do I owe you money? 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:22.239 Is that what you're called? 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:26.360 No? I was just just calling. I mean I have 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:29.479 a family of my own, and I'm a father now too, 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.680 so I know time has gone by. If you're in 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:35.320 town next week, maybe we do something next week. 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.080 Yeah, I'll be in next week. 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:42.640 Okay, all right, Well I'll be in touch and okay. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.080 Good good, all right, and you can tell me more. 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:52.120 About you and I'd love to see you, Sullivan. Who 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:52.440 am I? 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:57.000 Well, guess what, I have to meet my dad, dad, 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:04.959 and it's not going to be so easy. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:06.560 Yeah. 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:10.080 Well my dad is not your typical dadda. 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.440 And yeah he's well he's. 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:18.640 A criminal, that's for one. So we got that on 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:22.679 our hands. I haven't talked to the guy in twenty 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:27.640 four years. What do you think about that? 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:29.360 That's it? I just kid. 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.559 So, yeah, tomorrow's the day I am going to meet 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.360 my dad after all this time. What do you think 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:39.800 about that? 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:45.880 I honestly never thought that I would ever witness this. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.280 If you were to ask me a couple of years ago, 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.880 even six months ago, if I ever envisioned you meeting 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.360 with your dad, the answer would have been absolutely not. 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.000 So I think it's pretty crazy. I mean, how are 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.639 you feeling is more of the question. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.440 You know, this whole process is crazy because it was like, 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:10.840 yesterday I spoke to my mom and I also spoke 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:12.880 to my father, and that's the first time I've spoken 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.240 to both of them in the same day in twenty 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.360 some odd years. Yeah, so that's crazy to me. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:20.880 Your mother would lose her mind. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.320 Yeah, she knew, right. She doesn't know where we're at 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.000 in this at all. So this is heavy stuff. So 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.359 I feel like I'm keeping a lot of secrets and 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:33.840 that's tough. And I just hope that this all obviously 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.840 plays out well and my dad and I can have 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:42.840 a truthful conversation. Hopefully he's a different person than a 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.880 person that wants to be a better father, because I mean, 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.120 I guess, no matter how old you are, you still 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:49.840 need a dad. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.079 Are you gonna be nice? 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:53.400 Yeah, because I mean. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.800 Sometimes your overall demeanors kind of like a dick. 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.040 Yeah, I can't des about that. 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.560 Like even people who you like, you're kind of an asshole. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.120 I mean, I'm gonna I'm trying to go in with 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.560 as much positive of an attitude as possible, but also 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:10.720 there are things I need to say to him that 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.760 I haven't said before. There's so much that needs to 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.840 be done in our relationship. And that's what you know. Obviously, 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.480 this what it's what it's about, and uh, you know, 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:24.160 we'll see what happens. This is number one, Dad. 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.520 The recorders in my bag, I have that as a mic. 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:38.600 I have the zoom Age six, the standard podcast recorder 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.480 with the mic sticking out of my bag. I have 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.520 I have that. Which is it? It lends in so well, 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.560 I'm gonna have to take a picture after this and 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.800 send us here just to show you how concealed it is. 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.600 However, I love it. I love how brown you are. 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:53.760 Yeah, I know I am just the way like I 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:58.080 taped everything. It's really it's taped pretty well. I just 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:03.000 hope that it it stays. But I mean, Michael Gold 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:04.800 plans that I get there before my dad. 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.920 As I drove into Manhattan to meet my father at 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.400 the Second Avenue Delhi, I spoke to my friend and 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:13.520 producer Adam Lowett. We spoke about the fact that I 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.880 haven't exactly told my dad I'm doing a podcast. I'll 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:17.839 save that for later. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.000 You think your dad's going to show an hour early. 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.760 I hope not. I assume I'll be early. I don't 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.680 think this is a meeting you're late tips, especially. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:28.200 If you're here right. 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:32.120 I figure, you know, it's realistic that he could be 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:33.040 a half an hour early. 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:40.200 I was thinking about something that he said on your 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.960 phone call, and I thought it might be a helpful 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:49.359 way in for you, which is he said, look, I 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.720 still have the house. We have a lot of good 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.800 memories of that house. A lot of bad stuff happened too, 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.320 but I don't like to focus on the bad. I 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:00.240 want to focus on the good. And I I think 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:05.320 that you can say that that really stuck out to you. 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.320 I really agree, and that's that same I mean the 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.119 same way, that same thing I felt. That is something 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:15.000 that stuck out to me. It's like, and he's the 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.440 you know, I'm still in his eyes, still this child 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.479 he doesn't know me as an adult, and him saying 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:26.279 that is an easy way for him to just not 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.240 deal with it himself. But it's like you were the 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.479 cause of the bad. Let's address that. Let's let's talk 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.839 about that. You know, it doesn't have to be all 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:38.520 about the bad. Obviously, I'm here not to completely relive 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:43.359 all the horrible things that place, but I want to, 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.280 you know, I want you to be aware that it 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.599 happened and feel some remorse and that I address it. 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.719 Something I do want to say is, just like the 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.240 way I felt growing up, is that you put me 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.960 in the middle of your marriage and everything that was 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.640 going wrong somehow if it could involve screwing fur over, 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:07.200 you had no problem screwing meals and you know, something 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.120 with like lunch money, where it'd be like I'd ask 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.560 you for lunch money and you'd say, go ask your mom. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.640 It's like, I'm like your son asking you for two dollars. 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:18.799 What's the big fucking deal? 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.240 Yeah, you know, I mean I could get it too. 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.800 You know the whole dog thing too, where it's like 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.520 it took my dog and you said that I wasn't 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.320 getting it back until the divorce was final. I never 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.520 saw my dog again after I was fifteen years old. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.680 Is there any chance of him going That's not how 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:38.359 that happened. 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.400 It's very possible, and I'll be like, all right, I 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:46.320 mean like if you don't think any of that happened, 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.200 then you know. I mean, there's not much more I 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:54.560 can say, but that's how I remember it exactly. How's 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:59.320 your strawma, Let's play this out. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.279 What is the worst case scenario how this lunch goes. 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:06.599 I think worst case he goes in for a kiss 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.280 and swiped me the tone. 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:17.880 And then rip open your backpack and then goes, yes. 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:21.600 He's the mic immediately and I split my throat after 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.760 he made out. Yeah, it says he's like who you were? 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.840 You were you with at and T then and then 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.240 they come back to me. Just never thought it be you. 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.680 He actually just texted me he said, just missed my 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.720 one twenty four out of and then he didn't finish 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:45.040 his sentence, texted me. I just wrote back, Okay, I'm 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:49.080 gonna see he's got the doss go and waiting for 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:49.880 his next text. 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.760 What would be hilarious if he was like, let's just 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:59.160 do this another time? If he fucking bails on you? 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.320 He wrote the next strain is two twenty four, which 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:07.400 has arise at three twenty four penn station. Well, that's 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:12.440 still work I'll say yeah, he's like sorry about that, 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:14.520 and he gets all right, that's the first time you 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:15.120 let me down. 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.960 I'm sure you've had other lunches with twenty four years 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:23.160 in the making that you've been laid for. 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:28.320 Yeah, exactly, But I just wanted to get this fucking 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.360 thing over. With any of this stuff in general, you 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.920 just have to be prepared that it's not going to 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:38.440 go as we exactly have to play. It's always going 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:42.960 to be some sort of thing that's gonna be not expected. 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:43.960 Let me know how it goes. 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:45.400 Oh well, later. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.679 I got to the city and walked around with my father. Now, 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.959 being late, I had time to kill Unfortunately, when you 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.080 grow up with a con man for a father, you 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.679 learn not to believe everything they say. So now I'm 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:07.040 left thinking, did he really miss his train? Was he 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.520 tailing me the whole way in? Has he been walking 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.319 a block behind me for the past half hour? I 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.320 wouldn't put anything past him. Well, waiting to meet up 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.080 with my dad, I called my buddy, comedian Sam Morrell. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.920 Sam has a strained relationship with his biological father and 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.319 met him after a long time. 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:25.559 I know that you have experience. I know you made 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.280 your biological father, and just for my. 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.600 Like, what was that? Like? Jeez, I mean I met 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.120 my biological father when I was like nineteen, this is 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.560 before you could you could profit off it doing a podcast. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:44.280 And you know, we met at a restaurant and it's weird, 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.240 you go in. I mean I never met him ever. 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.880 You grew up with your dad, so it's different. Yeah, 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.040 I might have been better off that way though, I know, 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.280 well you want that got to meet Mario Lemil and 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.800 Patrick Ewing. You got all these great stories out of 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.120 it at least, yeah, and a lot of scars to 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:03.360 go along with it, so it was a worth But 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.520 I'm an adult now and like I feel that I'm 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.840 just gonna I'm not gonna be able to say everything 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.880 that I want to say to him. But also I 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:13.760 feel like it also wouldn't be the best time to 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:15.240 say it. It's our first meeting. 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.439 But did you get at it with him when you 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.440 met your dad and try and express to him like 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.400 all the wrong that he did and that hurt you 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:24.800 were that he wasn't a part of your life and like, 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:26.880 you know, had you approach. 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:30.199 It, Oh man, No, not the first time. The first time, 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.280 you just kind of like, oh wow, this is a 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.559 crazy thing. It's kind of you're you're in shock a 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:37.719 little bit because I'd only seen pictures of him. I 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.240 didn't know him. So it's also hard the first to 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:44.360 be like, hey, oh you're my biological dad. You're horrible 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.000 of the caesar salad. It's a hard thing to just, 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.280 you know, to do if you want to have a 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:54.280 relationship with him, or to repair the relationship you you'll 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.160 maybe tell him over time, But I don't think that's 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.440 the thing you can just unload out of nowhere after 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.920 all this time. I think that's and then also you'll 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.440 see what he's capable of, what he can take, yeah, 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.200 because he can't handle it. There's no point in telling him, 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:12.320 I know. Does he know what he did? Is really 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.120 the question? Right is he aware of the harmony did 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:19.080 to you? So already you have to think about how, 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.319 I mean, how would you feel as a father? I 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:26.080 mean you're a different type of father, you know, yeah, 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.640 so far how far doing you could turn out to 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.520 be a bag? You know? Don't they don't know the 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:35.200 ways in which it screws you up because they're gone, 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.000 so so then you know they're gone. They're living this 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:43.120 another life, and you're dealing with kind of what they 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.800 did to you and and the aftermath of that. Yeah, 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.040 I have a question. Who's paying for the meal? 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.000 Well, I'm definitely not going to off, you know, even 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:52.840 when you know when we go out, I never do. 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:54.600 So I'll just stick to what the practice. 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.240 So, yeah, I realize I have a very paternal role 0:11:59.280 --> 0:11:59.920 in the now. 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:02.000 Yeah, exactly. 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:03.120 I always pick it up the dam. 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.280 I'm like approaching, I got it head over right now 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.440 to to meet him. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.320 So, buddy, I appreciate it. Good luck man, you know, 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.320 stay strong, don't don't give in too much, you know, 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.679 and uh and take and you know, take take a 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.400 breath or something. I don't know. I don't have any 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:24.959 good advice for you. Just got to go and do it. 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:26.120 Buddy, screwed me. 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.719 I'm fucked. What about to give you dating advice? I'm like, 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:33.000 before you meet him, masturbates. I got nothing good, just uh, 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.559 just best of luck, man, I appreciate buddy. 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.720 After talking with Sam, I eventually made my way to 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.920 the second Avenue Deli. I grabbed a back booth and 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.040 quickly set up my recording devices and then I waited. 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.960 At four pm and over ninety minutes late, my dad, 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:54.360 many veter arrived. He was neatly dressed, wearing a black 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:58.880 Calvin Klin jacket, a short sleeve collar shirt, and blue jeans, 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:03.760 hair parted and cleanly shaven. He looked exactly how I 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.640 remembered him, just older, a little late. 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.280 I'm sorry, just fast day. 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:10.480 That's fine. 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.160 My father and I shook hands. We sat down, and 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:15.880 the waiter came over to take our order. 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:20.360 You know, uh yeah, I don't know. 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:24.120 I mean you have some shoes. Now, just do a sandwich, 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:30.240 just a sandwich, Yeah, I'm good. Sandwich is planning. Can 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:30.959 I do the brisket? 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:33.000 What about fries? 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:38.040 It comes with any sides or no? Oh yeah, just 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.200 to pick on like cost. 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:42.040 Just bring out some flies days. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.080 I'll have some metal share them with me, I hope, 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:45.600 because I can't. 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:45.880 Eat him there. 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:52.760 Let me have a masi wall shoe. No, some nice 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:58.240 big bills. I'll have a brisket sandwich. Uh, slice them 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:03.480 lean the lean side, okay? On why you gotta see this? 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.439 Why? Okay? Good? And what are you drinking? 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:08.360 Water's fine? 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:08.680 Yeah? 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.800 See this rye for me as well? Thank you? 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.440 You go for physical every once in a while. Yeah, 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:15.280 what are you gonna ask? 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:22.600 Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that's fine, but yeah. 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:23.960 I was, you know, I gotta go and fi some 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.960 more testing. And I think it's in two weeks. I 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:28.560 had a stroke. 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.320 Oh yeah, breash stroke, backstroke. 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.840 I think it's stilled the t I a so much 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:37.760 for me trying to make a silly joke about my 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.880 father's stroke. But it's kind of hard to have empathy 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:42.360 for someone you can't trust. 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.560 I had a bleed. Let's just go out of my head. 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:46.720 How's the right side? 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:55.080 Now that's right? S Yeah, both sides are good. Thank you. Yeah, 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:56.080 I'm glad. 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:57.480 You reached out to me because I always wanted you 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.320 to know what my health situation was. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.040 For yourself, it don't look that bad. 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.920 I gained weight only because I eat like a big 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:09.160 don't exercise, No, I never did. 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.080 Yeah, I think, well, when you were younger, I was 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:17.000 going to the while the time I still have my 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:18.120 life find membership there. 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:23.680 Oh yeah, yeah, so you I donate furniture of them 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:24.680 in the furniture business. 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.640 You know, that's how I scammed it. 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.880 If I had any doubts that I'd somehow been making 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.440 up all this stuff in my mind about my dad 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.400 being a con artist, him bragging that he scammed the 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.720 lifetime membership to the y m c A by donating furniture. 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:41.440 But all those doubts to rest. 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.400 I'm happy to sitting here with you. I'm happy that 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.480 you reached out to me. I really mean that. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.560 I said that. Some good memories, a lot of them. 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:57.920 I have no regrets, have no regrets, well in any anything, Well, 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:02.440 I mean see those even talked to you years. I 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.920 have not talking a minute Janie or Danny. 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:09.680 Well, you know, I tried, things happened, and that's it. 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.560 Of all the things I expected my father to say 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.480 at our lunch, no regrets was not one of them. 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.040 As we sat there, I brought up the topic of 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.280 my childhood dog, Kobe. It feels crazy being in my 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.520 late thirties still caring about a pet I had, But 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.840 Kobe truly got me through living in that house. I 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:29.920 told my dad how much it hurt that he took 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:30.360 him from me. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.000 I didn't got to see him, you know, for all 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:33.480 I didn't. 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.640 I didn't see him for until I saw him the 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.800 first eight years of his life, and I never got 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:40.720 to see him again after that. 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.920 How do you do? He was great sleuck with me 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.720 every night, every night. 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:46.840 And. 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.480 Well, I would have liked to have him. 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:56.360 There was nobody things why I was nobody really to me. 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:02.120 I was told you had gotten a dog, and Cooper 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:02.960 was the dog's name. 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:05.960 I didn't get a dog, but I asked you if 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.080 this is what happened, and you said, when the horse 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.639 is over, that's when I could get Kobe back. And 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.239 that was something i'd always upset, right, And that's why 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:21.520 I'm sorry. I mean, that was something that always stuck 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.400 with me because I never got to see my dog again. 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:28.240 Yeah, I'm glad you're telling me about so I can tell 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:31.320 you I'm sorry. I intentionally did not go back Hoby, 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:39.639 seeing he would have probably have been better off with 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.560 you than with me. All right, Bet it's a great dog. 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.080 Yeah he was good. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:51.040 You like this, Rommy, Yeah, I don't. What about cornbys ah? Yeah, 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:53.320 but it's the same cut of meat. So is this 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:57.320 all the same kind of meat? Yeah? That makes sense. 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.680 And that was it, the thing I couldn't get over 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.680 in my childhood, the thing I thought about probably more 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.520 than anything in the past twenty four years. I was 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.479 finally able to say, and that was the response I 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.600 got a quick apology, and then a lesson on the 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:24.639 similarities between smoke meats. Not long after, I changed the 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.840 subject to something my dad would enjoy talking about one 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.480 of his scams. So I asked him about the time 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.199 where he entered a local news contest for who had 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:34.760 the worst first date story? 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.360 What was the club met thing? 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.119 There's something on TV about this. 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:46.879 I guess anyone who has the best date story, Okay, 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:48.760 we'll win a trip to Club D. 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:51.639 I said, fuck it, I thought something right away. 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:56.480 Here's something about my father that I can't stand. He's 0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:01.479 undeniably charming. That's why he's a great con man. Minutes earlier, 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:03.639 the guy told me he never meant to keep my 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:05.960 dog from me, and now he's got me laughing with 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:07.879 him about another scammy polled. 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:14.360 They said, look, we like you, come on TV and 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:15.840 tell you a story. Yeah. 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:17.720 I didn't know there were going to be two other 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:22.120 people I had to compete against the story. His story sucked, 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:24.160 so I knew I'm gonna blow them away. 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:26.399 Well it was the story. 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:28.400 The story I told was. 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.760 I met this girl and she invited me back to 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:36.479 her apartment and we sat down. She's very nice, very pretty, 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:40.280 and we were talking, and then it was getting late 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.760 and I decided that I don't think this girl was 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:46.800 really for me. So I went to the bathroom and 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:49.280 as I went to the bedroom, I passed the front 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.359 door that we came in, and I noticed there were 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:53.400 a couple of locks on it, but they were dead 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:56.320 bolts without the thing that you turn so you could 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:57.280 lock it with a key. 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:01.480 I'm outside and lock it way, will open it either way. 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.720 So I said, this is freaky, you know. 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.760 So you're sitting and talking and she was getting really 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:10.320 friendly with me. 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:12.480 I said, gee, this is great, but it's our first day. 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.159 And I looked at her and she had these eyes 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:16.920 that looked like they were spinning in her head. 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:21.720 Yeah, and I was frightened. I was really frightened. So 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:26.439 it's like one o'clock in the morning. She hears the 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:30.679 door opening and she says, get up, get up, Get up, 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.760 my husband. So you didn't tell me you were married, Well, 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:36.320 I told you my husband. I thought it was it 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:37.960 was your ex husband is a pilot. 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:40.600 She goes his flat, probably got canceled. 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:42.639 You got to get out of him now. 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.960 So I climbed out the bathroom window and that was it. 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:47.520 Yeah, is it a true story. 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:49.400 Bullshit, it's bullshit. 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.000 Yeah, I remember you telling me that I was a 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.080 bullshit never happened. 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:56.280 Yeah, that's what I thought. 0:20:56.600 --> 0:21:00.240 But that's my talent. You have comedy and I'm a bullshit. 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.920 And that's the disolation of my father. He looks at 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:07.200 my hard work and compares it to his line. To him, 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:09.040 those are to be equally revered. 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:11.520 You follow hockey, stomach after you. 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:13.680 I don't follow hockey anymore. 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:20.040 You go to any hockey games every once in a while, Yeah, 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:22.440 when I can, you know, but. 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:26.919