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Speaker 1: Previously on number one Dad Herry, Gary ruber Sacks here,

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Speaker 1: I was able to track down your dad's cell phone number. Hello, Hey,

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Speaker 1: how's it going, Gary?

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Speaker 2: No, it's Lebron James.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, Lebron James.

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Speaker 2: So do I owe you money?

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're called?

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Speaker 1: No? I was just just calling. I mean I have

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Speaker 1: a family of my own, and I'm a father now too,

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Speaker 1: so I know time has gone by. If you're in

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Speaker 1: town next week, maybe we do something next week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be in next week.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Well I'll be in touch and okay.

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Speaker 4: Good good, all right, and you can tell me more.

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Speaker 3: About you and I'd love to see you, Sullivan. Who

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Speaker 3: am I?

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Speaker 1: Well, guess what, I have to meet my dad, dad,

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Speaker 1: and it's not going to be so easy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well my dad is not your typical dadda.

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Speaker 2: And yeah he's well he's.

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Speaker 1: A criminal, that's for one. So we got that on

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Speaker 1: our hands. I haven't talked to the guy in twenty

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Speaker 1: four years. What do you think about that?

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Speaker 3: That's it? I just kid.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, tomorrow's the day I am going to meet

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Speaker 1: my dad after all this time. What do you think

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Speaker 1: about that?

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Speaker 6: I honestly never thought that I would ever witness this.

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Speaker 6: If you were to ask me a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 6: even six months ago, if I ever envisioned you meeting

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Speaker 6: with your dad, the answer would have been absolutely not.

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Speaker 6: So I think it's pretty crazy. I mean, how are

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Speaker 6: you feeling is more of the question.

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Speaker 1: You know, this whole process is crazy because it was like,

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Speaker 1: yesterday I spoke to my mom and I also spoke

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Speaker 1: to my father, and that's the first time I've spoken

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Speaker 1: to both of them in the same day in twenty

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Speaker 1: some odd years. Yeah, so that's crazy to me.

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Speaker 6: Your mother would lose her mind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she knew, right. She doesn't know where we're at

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Speaker 1: in this at all. So this is heavy stuff. So

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm keeping a lot of secrets and

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Speaker 1: that's tough. And I just hope that this all obviously

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Speaker 1: plays out well and my dad and I can have

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Speaker 1: a truthful conversation. Hopefully he's a different person than a

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Speaker 1: person that wants to be a better father, because I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess, no matter how old you are, you still

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Speaker 1: need a dad.

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Speaker 6: Are you gonna be nice?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes your overall demeanors kind of like a dick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't des about that.

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Speaker 6: Like even people who you like, you're kind of an asshole.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna I'm trying to go in with

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Speaker 1: as much positive of an attitude as possible, but also

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Speaker 1: there are things I need to say to him that

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Speaker 1: I haven't said before. There's so much that needs to

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Speaker 1: be done in our relationship. And that's what you know. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: this what it's what it's about, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. This is number one, Dad.

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Speaker 7: The recorders in my bag, I have that as a mic.

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Speaker 7: I have the zoom Age six, the standard podcast recorder

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Speaker 7: with the mic sticking out of my bag. I have

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Speaker 7: I have that. Which is it? It lends in so well,

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to take a picture after this and

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Speaker 7: send us here just to show you how concealed it is.

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Speaker 8: However, I love it. I love how brown you are.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I know I am just the way like I

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Speaker 7: taped everything. It's really it's taped pretty well. I just

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Speaker 7: hope that it it stays. But I mean, Michael Gold

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Speaker 7: plans that I get there before my dad.

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Speaker 1: As I drove into Manhattan to meet my father at

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Speaker 1: the Second Avenue Delhi, I spoke to my friend and

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Speaker 1: producer Adam Lowett. We spoke about the fact that I

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Speaker 1: haven't exactly told my dad I'm doing a podcast. I'll

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Speaker 1: save that for later.

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Speaker 8: You think your dad's going to show an hour early.

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Speaker 7: I hope not. I assume I'll be early. I don't

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Speaker 7: think this is a meeting you're late tips, especially.

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Speaker 4: If you're here right.

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Speaker 7: I figure, you know, it's realistic that he could be

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Speaker 8: I was thinking about something that he said on your

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Speaker 8: phone call, and I thought it might be a helpful

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Speaker 8: way in for you, which is he said, look, I

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Speaker 8: still have the house. We have a lot of good

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Speaker 8: memories of that house. A lot of bad stuff happened too,

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Speaker 8: but I don't like to focus on the bad. I

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Speaker 8: want to focus on the good. And I I think

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Speaker 8: that you can say that that really stuck out to you.

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Speaker 7: I really agree, and that's that same I mean the

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Speaker 7: same way, that same thing I felt. That is something

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Speaker 7: that stuck out to me. It's like, and he's the

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Speaker 7: you know, I'm still in his eyes, still this child

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Speaker 7: he doesn't know me as an adult, and him saying

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Speaker 7: that is an easy way for him to just not

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Speaker 7: deal with it himself. But it's like you were the

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Speaker 7: cause of the bad. Let's address that. Let's let's talk

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Speaker 7: about that. You know, it doesn't have to be all

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Speaker 7: about the bad. Obviously, I'm here not to completely relive

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Speaker 7: all the horrible things that place, but I want to,

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Speaker 7: happened and feel some remorse and that I address it.

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Speaker 7: Something I do want to say is, just like the

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Speaker 7: way I felt growing up, is that you put me

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Speaker 7: in the middle of your marriage and everything that was

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Speaker 7: going wrong somehow if it could involve screwing fur over,

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Speaker 7: you had no problem screwing meals and you know, something

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Speaker 7: with like lunch money, where it'd be like I'd ask

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Speaker 7: you for lunch money and you'd say, go ask your mom.

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Speaker 7: It's like, I'm like your son asking you for two dollars.

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Speaker 7: What's the big fucking deal?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I mean I could get it too.

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Speaker 7: You know the whole dog thing too, where it's like

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Speaker 7: it took my dog and you said that I wasn't

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Speaker 7: getting it back until the divorce was final. I never

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Speaker 8: Is there any chance of him going That's not how

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Speaker 8: that happened.

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Speaker 7: It's very possible, and I'll be like, all right, I

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Speaker 7: mean like if you don't think any of that happened,

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Speaker 7: then you know. I mean, there's not much more I

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Speaker 7: can say, but that's how I remember it exactly. How's

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Speaker 7: your strawma, Let's play this out.

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Speaker 8: What is the worst case scenario how this lunch goes.

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Speaker 7: I think worst case he goes in for a kiss

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Speaker 7: and swiped me the tone.

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Speaker 8: And then rip open your backpack and then goes, yes.

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Speaker 7: He's the mic immediately and I split my throat after

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Speaker 7: he made out. Yeah, it says he's like who you were?

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Speaker 7: You were you with at and T then and then

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Speaker 7: they come back to me. Just never thought it be you.

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Speaker 7: He actually just texted me he said, just missed my

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Speaker 7: one twenty four out of and then he didn't finish

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Speaker 7: his sentence, texted me. I just wrote back, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 7: gonna see he's got the doss go and waiting for

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Speaker 7: his next text.

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Speaker 8: What would be hilarious if he was like, let's just

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Speaker 8: do this another time? If he fucking bails on you?

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Speaker 7: He wrote the next strain is two twenty four, which

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Speaker 7: has arise at three twenty four penn station. Well, that's

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Speaker 7: still work I'll say yeah, he's like sorry about that,

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Speaker 7: and he gets all right, that's the first time you

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Speaker 7: let me down.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure you've had other lunches with twenty four years

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Speaker 8: in the making that you've been laid for.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, But I just wanted to get this fucking

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Speaker 7: thing over. With any of this stuff in general, you

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Speaker 7: just have to be prepared that it's not going to

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Speaker 7: go as we exactly have to play. It's always going

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Speaker 7: to be some sort of thing that's gonna be not expected.

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Speaker 8: Let me know how it goes.

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Speaker 7: Oh well, later.

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Speaker 1: I got to the city and walked around with my father. Now,

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Speaker 1: being late, I had time to kill Unfortunately, when you

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Speaker 1: grow up with a con man for a father, you

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Speaker 1: learn not to believe everything they say. So now I'm

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Speaker 1: left thinking, did he really miss his train? Was he

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Speaker 1: tailing me the whole way in? Has he been walking

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Speaker 1: wouldn't put anything past him. Well, waiting to meet up

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Speaker 1: with my dad, I called my buddy, comedian Sam Morrell.

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Speaker 1: Sam has a strained relationship with his biological father and

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Speaker 1: met him after a long time.

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Speaker 9: I know that you have experience. I know you made

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Speaker 9: your biological father, and just for my.

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Speaker 4: Like, what was that? Like? Jeez, I mean I met

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Speaker 4: my biological father when I was like nineteen, this is

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Speaker 4: before you could you could profit off it doing a podcast.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we met at a restaurant and it's weird,

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Speaker 4: you go in. I mean I never met him ever.

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Speaker 4: You grew up with your dad, so it's different. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I might have been better off that way though, I know,

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Speaker 4: well you want that got to meet Mario Lemil and

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Speaker 4: Patrick Ewing. You got all these great stories out of

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Speaker 4: it at least, yeah, and a lot of scars to

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Speaker 4: I'm an adult now and like I feel that I'm

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Speaker 4: just gonna I'm not gonna be able to say everything

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Speaker 9: But did you get at it with him when you

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Speaker 9: all the wrong that he did and that hurt you

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Speaker 4: It, Oh man, No, not the first time. The first time,

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Speaker 4: crazy thing. It's kind of you're you're in shock a

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Speaker 4: little bit because I'd only seen pictures of him. I

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Speaker 4: be like, hey, oh you're my biological dad. You're horrible

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Speaker 4: of the caesar salad. It's a hard thing to just,

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Speaker 4: maybe tell him over time, But I don't think that's

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Speaker 4: all this time. I think that's and then also you'll

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Speaker 4: see what he's capable of, what he can take, yeah,

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Speaker 4: because he can't handle it. There's no point in telling him,

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Speaker 4: I know. Does he know what he did? Is really

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Speaker 4: to you? So already you have to think about how,

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Speaker 4: I mean, how would you feel as a father? I

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Speaker 4: mean you're a different type of father, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 4: so far how far doing you could turn out to

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Speaker 4: be a bag? You know? Don't they don't know the

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Speaker 4: ways in which it screws you up because they're gone,

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Speaker 4: so so then you know they're gone. They're living this

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Speaker 4: another life, and you're dealing with kind of what they

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Speaker 4: did to you and and the aftermath of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I have a question. Who's paying for the meal?

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm definitely not going to off, you know, even

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Speaker 9: when you know when we go out, I never do.

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Speaker 7: So I'll just stick to what the practice.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, I realize I have a very paternal role

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Speaker 5: I mean you have some shoes. Now, just do a sandwich,

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Speaker 12: Let me have a masi wall shoe. No, some nice

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Speaker 3: I had a bleed. Let's just go out of my head.

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Speaker 13: You reached out to me because I always wanted you

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Speaker 1: If I had any doubts that I'd somehow been making

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Speaker 3: I said that. Some good memories, a lot of them.

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Speaker 2: I have no regrets, have no regrets, well in any anything, Well,

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I tried, things happened, and that's it.

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Speaker 1: Of all the things I expected my father to say

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Speaker 2: I didn't got to see him, you know, for all

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Speaker 5: I didn't see him for until I saw him the

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Speaker 3: How do you do? He was great sleuck with me

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Speaker 2: Well, I would have liked to have him.

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Speaker 3: There was nobody things why I was nobody really to me.

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Speaker 14: I was told you had gotten a dog, and Cooper

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Speaker 5: I didn't get a dog, but I asked you if

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I mean, that was something that always stuck

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm glad you're telling me about so I can tell

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Speaker 3: You like this, Rommy, Yeah, I don't. What about cornbys ah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that was it, the thing I couldn't get over

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Speaker 1: the worst first date story?

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Speaker 2: What was the club met thing?

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Speaker 3: There's something on TV about this.

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Speaker 13: I guess anyone who has the best date story, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I said, fuck it, I thought something right away.

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Speaker 1: Here's something about my father that I can't stand. He's

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Speaker 3: They said, look, we like you, come on TV and

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Speaker 13: I didn't know there were going to be two other

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Speaker 2: Well it was the story.

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Speaker 3: The story I told was.

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Speaker 13: I met this girl and she invited me back to

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Speaker 3: I'm outside and lock it way, will open it either way.

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Speaker 3: So I said, this is freaky, you know.

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Speaker 13: So you're sitting and talking and she was getting really

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Speaker 3: I said, gee, this is great, but it's our first day.

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Speaker 13: And I looked at her and she had these eyes

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and I was frightened. I was really frightened. So

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Speaker 11: I told you my husband. I thought it was it

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Speaker 3: She goes his flat, probably got canceled.

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Speaker 11: You got to get out of him now.

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Speaker 3: So I climbed out the bathroom window and that was it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is it a true story.

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Speaker 3: Bullshit, it's bullshit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember you telling me that I was a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 3: But that's my talent. You have comedy and I'm a bullshit.

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Speaker 1: And that's the disolation of my father. He looks at

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Speaker 2: You follow hockey, stomach after you.

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Speaker 3: I don't follow hockey anymore.

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Speaker 1: You go to any hockey games every once in a while, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when I can, you know, but.

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Speaker 10: I still I still like the garden. That's awesome. Have

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Speaker 10: you ever gone back? They never gone back. Last time

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Speaker 10: it was with you, it was a ranger game.

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Speaker 3: It's left him. It was ever there. Yeah. By the way,

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Speaker 3: I show you an article. Yeah, and you know he

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Speaker 4: Donna.

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Speaker 1: Donna is my father's girlfriend. Apparently they've been dating a while.

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Speaker 2: Really, Oh yeah, she reads everything? And what did she

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Speaker 3: Did she know it? The story? She did?

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Speaker 14: He just knew that we were involved with hockey. And

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Speaker 14: I said, she goes, Maybe he's trying to reach out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you saw the article.

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Speaker 1: I when I put out the article, they like, you know,

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Speaker 1: they interviewed me at Sports Usual.

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Speaker 2: They wanted to make sure I wasn't bullshitting and I

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Speaker 3: They doubted that somebody's gonna They doubted it.

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Speaker 2: Well, they doubted in the beginning until I was able,

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Speaker 2: I had pictures.

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Speaker 3: I figured they were going to come and rust me.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, they shipped my way out of it.

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Speaker 2: Well I know exactly.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever look me up on Facebook? Holt my

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Speaker 2: United States, current president, current president.

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Speaker 3: How does a guy like me get to him? Yeah?

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Speaker 13: You know, I had somebody from the Israeli ENDPA who

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Speaker 3: Said, we want to talk to you confidentially.

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Speaker 16: Nothing goes best us. How were you able to get

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Speaker 16: to Joe Biden? I said, well, I wasn't looking to

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Speaker 13: what's his name, Shasha bron calling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, same shit. Yeah.

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Speaker 13: So when I see him doing his shit, I think, fuck,

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Speaker 13: I did that ship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I did that stuff already. I could get

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Speaker 3: just anywhere I want to. It's just it's a townel

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Speaker 3: and I have and it's the way I come.

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Speaker 13: Of course, Yes, with people, no matter who they are,

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Speaker 13: even the Secret Service, I have them standing with me

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Speaker 13: taking pictures with me, which they normally it don't do because.

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Speaker 3: They don't want their faces to be shot. I want

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Speaker 3: to show you something two seconds of your time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I got I got a guy friend to America.

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Speaker 3: That's your sister. What you both share the same blood.

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Speaker 1: The video of my dad is playing on his phone

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Speaker 1: is of my sixteen year old half sister, who until

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Speaker 1: this very moment I had no idea even existed. I

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Speaker 1: was completely stunned.

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Speaker 2: It's very hilarious Parish.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for his school.

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Speaker 2: You guys from the projects go in Powis among friends.

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Speaker 1: I expected meeting my father to have a surprise or two,

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Speaker 1: but I definitely did not see this coming. I have

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Speaker 1: another sister who's half my age and she's French.

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Speaker 3: Everybody said it it's just like brandy and genuine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe one day I could tell.

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Speaker 3: So I want you to meeting if he wants to.

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Speaker 3: I'm not pushing you into anything, but I want to

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Speaker 3: see you again. You want to see you again. I

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Speaker 3: think that you know. Day by day I know you decide.

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Speaker 3: I got to tell you something.

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Speaker 13: I was very anxious about coming to meet you because

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Speaker 13: I didn't want you to be angry with me.

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Speaker 3: I understand I didn't know how you re end.

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Speaker 2: I've had a lot of time.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I got to ask you. Imatch that I'm not.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to answer me. But what made you decide? Man?

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Speaker 2: Curiosity? I feel that you know?

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Speaker 5: I mean again, if you haven't talked in twenty four years, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I wanted to know what what you're up to.

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Speaker 2: It's a big gap.

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Speaker 1: What I really wanted to say was I'm here to

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Speaker 1: show you I didn't end up like you. Then, after

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Speaker 1: a forty five minute lunch twenty four years in the making,

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Speaker 1: we finished up and headed to the register, where my

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Speaker 1: father generously offered to pay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still have a.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know why I keep it.

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Speaker 1: The cashier tells him his credit card expired five years ago.

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Speaker 1: Who does this. My father said, it's in case he

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Speaker 1: ever has to make a return to home depot, whatever

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Speaker 1: that means. He finally paid with another card and we

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Speaker 1: went our separate ways. But on my drive home, I

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Speaker 1: couldn't stop thinking about my dad in that credit card.

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Speaker 1: I could only assume it was another one of his

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Speaker 1: scams to cop a free meal. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't have expected anything less. The man is who

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Speaker 1: he is. On the next episode of Number One Dad,

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Speaker 1: all right, I am in my old neighborhood. I am

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Speaker 1: about to go into my house. This is pretty wild.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a lot. I haven't been in here

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Speaker 1: fifteen that's when I left to go to boarding school

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Speaker 1: and I never came back.

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Speaker 4: There we go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great picture of me playing hockey.

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Speaker 3: You forgot about that picture? Yeah, I don't remember it.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, you don't want to remember it because it has

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Speaker 15: to do with me.

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