1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Blub blast Night. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 2: I'm the host of Taking a Walk Music History on 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: Foot and follow us at Apple Podcasts, at Spotify, the podcast. 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 3: Playground, or wherever you get your podcast. 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: And we love stories of hope and redemption and good. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: Work for the greater good. 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 2: On an upcoming episode of Taking a Walk, we're going 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: to feature somebody who's a singer songwriter named Emily Kavanaugh 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: who has a terrific charity initiative called a Song for You. 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: So that'll be upcoming. But on this episode today, David 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: Nathan is our guest. David is a former music executive 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: of Republic Records. He's trying to change the narrative around 13 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: mental health and addiction by creating something amazing called Happy 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: Jack Records in honor of his late son, Jack Nathan. 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: We'll talk to David Nathan next. 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm taking a Walk. 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: Well, David Nathan, thanks for being on a virtual version 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 4: of Taking a Walk. I'm in the backyard here in 19 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 4: the mean streets of Carlisle, Massachusetts. 20 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: Where are you actually currently? 21 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 5: I am in New York City with my distraction being 22 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 5: the FDR, the thirty fourth Street in the FDR, so 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 5: we'll see what happens. 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 4: Well, I think distractions are all a walk of life 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 4: if you will, in New York City, they are, Yes, 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 4: they are. 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: So. 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: David tell us about the idea behind Happy Jack Records. 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 5: So well, it all comes from my son Jack Nathan, 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 5: who was a serial entrepreneur, had his hands in art, fashion, music, 31 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 5: and at you know, even starting at the age of 32 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 5: like fourteen fifteen years old, and kind of grew up 33 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 5: with that for me being in the music industry, but 34 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 5: really was, like I said, a serial entrepreneur, had a 35 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 5: bunch of businesses. But as he started to get into 36 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 5: the college years, he started to focus a little bit 37 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 5: more on it, and he started a company called Happy Jack, 38 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 5: which is all a mental health company that focuses on 39 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 5: being a voice for young adults that don't have the 40 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 5: voice or don't you know, are afraid to speak up 41 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 5: and super focused on mental health, clothing, music, and art. 42 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 5: And so Jack built that company partnered with child Mind Institute. 43 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 5: First thousand dollars he made when he launched a company 44 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 5: in July of twenty I'm sorry. In June of twenty twenty, 45 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 5: he donated to child Mine Institute and then about a 46 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 5: month later he went to a party down in South 47 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 5: New Jersey, took what he thought was a percoset, it 48 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 5: was laser fentanyl, and. 49 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 3: He went to sleep and never woke up. 50 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 5: So at nineteen years old and eleven months so almost 51 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 5: to his twentieth birthday. But what happened then is that 52 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 5: my ex wife and I Jack's mom took over the 53 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 5: company with Jack's super focus of you know, the mission, 54 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 5: the message of helping kids that suffered from mental health. 55 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 5: We have sixty college ambassadors that work with us across 56 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 5: the college campuses, and we have sins donated over one 57 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 5: hundred and sixty thousand dollars to different foundations and charities. 58 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 5: Super you know, playing along the lines of the mental 59 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 5: health space, although we do dabble a little bit and 60 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 5: you know, breast cancer wearing his Kids with Cancer Oregon donations, 61 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff. But one of the things 62 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 5: Jack always wanted to do was be in the business 63 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 5: and start music. And you know, love love music, huge 64 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 5: mcmillar fan, huge Travis Scott fan, Drake Kanye, and so 65 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 5: after Jack passed away, it was always on my mind, 66 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 5: as someone who's been in the music industry, to take 67 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 5: it to the next steps. And quite frankly, it just 68 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 5: never got to that space. A couple of people that 69 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 5: were surrounding us didn't think it was the right time. 70 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 5: I always wanted to do it. I maybe I just 71 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,559 Speaker 5: needed something to kick me in the butt. In about 72 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 5: ten months ago, I got introduced to my partner now, 73 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 5: Sam Kotch, who you know, graduated Indiana, young kid, twenty 74 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 5: five DJs all over the world, very super smart, suffers 75 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 5: from his own issues, you know, depression, anxiety, And as 76 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 5: soon as we got on the phone, within five minutes 77 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 5: of that conversation, Happy Jack Records was born. And you know, 78 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 5: with the focus on working with artists that want to 79 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 5: make a change in the industry, want to help themselves, 80 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 5: want to help their fans, want to help their communities, 81 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 5: and quite frankly, address a prop that's been long standing 82 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 5: in this industry, on top of every other industry, but 83 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 5: long standing where it's been taboo. 84 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: To talk about. 85 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: Did you see firsthand in your aspect to the business 86 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: that you were in with the Republic Records in your career, 87 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 4: did you see firsthand the problem that was going on 88 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: with the musicians and mental health and addiction. 89 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's funny. 90 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 5: I had this conversation with somebody the other day, and 91 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 5: I was saying that, you know, I worked very closely 92 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 5: with Amy Winehouse, you know, front and center, who died 93 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 5: of a you know, alcohol overdose, you know, and I 94 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 5: always knew there were problems. 95 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: My biggest problem was that I never said anything. 96 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 5: And you know, I look back at all these artists, 97 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 5: you know, they have that famous twenty seven club, right, 98 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 5: all these artists that have died at that age, Kurt Cobain, 99 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 5: Jimmy Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, you know, And I 100 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 5: always question whether or not if somebody jumped in and 101 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 5: said something at the label, the managers, the agents, friends 102 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 5: didn't enable, but you know, educated, maybe these guys, you know, 103 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 5: this would still be here. But you can't look backwards, 104 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 5: you know, you got to look forwards. And that's the 105 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 5: whole mentality of what we're doing here, is if we 106 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: can bring the artists that want to help and want 107 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 5: to change, or have already made the change but want 108 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 5: to talk about it and educate, we're all in. 109 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 4: Do you think people from outside the business have an 110 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 4: empathy in terms of what goes into an artist being 111 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: a touring artist and the stress that it places on 112 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 4: them and then the bad habits that occur and certainly 113 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: the destruction. 114 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a very interesting question from my perspective because 115 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 5: I've always been in the business, I would probably say, yes, 116 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 5: I don't think anybody just used Taylor Swift as you know, 117 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 5: for example, because I just went to her concert. Everything 118 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 5: that goes on behind the scenes, right the preparation that 119 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 5: the money, the stress, the anxiety, everything that goes into 120 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 5: getting ready for that show has to take its toll 121 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 5: on Taylor. Now, she's a very smart, talented, forward thinking 122 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 5: artist and probably has help and is able to talk 123 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 5: about her issues whether she writes a song about it 124 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 5: or something. But yeah, I do believe that there is 125 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 5: a misconception about, you know, money and success in the 126 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 5: music industry that everybody you know, well, if there they 127 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 5: have problems, then they bring it upon themselves. Like I 128 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 5: don't believe that. I believe that they're you know, they're 129 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 5: they're put here to entertain and do their job. And again, 130 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 5: the reason why we're doing what we're doing, we can 131 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 5: get into it if you like, is because there is 132 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 5: that stress factor and because there is that the distraction 133 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 5: and the stress and the anxiety and the addiction components 134 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 5: to it where. 135 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: We're going to allow the artists. 136 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 5: We're going to take away all that stuff so that 137 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 5: the artists can do what they do best, which is 138 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 5: focus on writing, recording, performing and singing. 139 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 4: Well, yes, let's get into it, because what you've come 140 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 4: up with here, as you're really working to revolutionize a 141 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: business and do great work, is really various tiers that 142 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 4: will allow this to be hopefully a success. 143 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: I have no doubt it'll be a success. 144 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: So talk about, you know, the aspect of this that 145 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 4: is providing strong reinforcement for the artists at every level. 146 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a bunch of things that So this company 147 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 5: is not designed to just sign artists that are being 148 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 5: success that have success and the streaming or radio or 149 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 5: touring or whatever. The idea of this, like I said earlier, 150 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 5: is to work with artists that want to be a 151 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 5: part of this right, believe in what we're doing. We'll 152 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 5: get up on a soapbox and talk about their addiction problems, 153 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 5: their anxiety, their depression, their you know, whatever they have 154 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 5: and be able to communicate it in a way that 155 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 5: can educate. 156 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: That can help. 157 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 5: And I'm not interested in signing an artist that doesn't 158 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 5: want to do that first and foremost. Secondly is the 159 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 5: program that's put in place. Right, you can't push and 160 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 5: force anybody to go to therapy, but we strongly recommend it, 161 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 5: and we're offering, you know, to pay for therapy for 162 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 5: six months to see where we stand, and if we 163 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 5: have to continue to do it, we will. 164 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 165 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 5: We're going to bring in coaches that are going to 166 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 5: be focused on nutrition, on physical, on on on uh, 167 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 5: you know, nutritional, but then also the generic you know, 168 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 5: organic or generic mental health issues that I talked about. 169 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 5: And then you know, God forbid you ever have this 170 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 5: you know issue, there's going to be an opportunity for 171 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 5: suicide prevention suicide hotlines if you ever do have to 172 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 5: get to that space. But again, these are these are 173 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 5: pieces of the puzzle that are going to allow us 174 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 5: to go do what we need to do best, which 175 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 5: is brand, market, promote the artists. But on the artist's side, 176 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 5: is going to like I said earlier, is going to 177 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 5: be able to give them a clear path to be 178 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 5: able to go do it they do best. 179 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: It makes complete sense. My question is how do you. 180 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 4: Merge the important mission of helping these artists through the 181 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: creative process and through their challenges with creativity and the 182 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: resilience of creativity. 183 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 5: Well, it's it's funny because a lot of people will 184 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 5: argue that because they're so messed up in one way 185 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 5: or another, is out they're. 186 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 3: How they're you know, they're creative. I don't. 187 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 5: I think that if you have a clearer head and 188 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 5: you don't have to worry about you know, where your 189 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 5: next meal is coming from, you don't have to worry 190 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 5: about where you're sleeping tonight, you don't have to worry 191 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 5: about having the ability to talk to somebody. It's going 192 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 5: to clear your mind in a healthy way and give 193 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 5: you the opportunity to see clearer, to be able to 194 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 5: you know, write more easily, to. 195 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: Sing at a better octave. 196 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 5: You know, your vocal range right will change if you're 197 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 5: not drinking. 198 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 3: If you're not you know, if you're in a better 199 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: health space. 200 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 5: Your stomach won't give you you know, the odjita and 201 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 5: the angst and the you know, all the the upsetness 202 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 5: that a lot of artists go through when they're about 203 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 5: to go on stage. 204 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 3: So the idea again is just to kind of create. 205 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 5: This clear vision and execute it so hopefully it actually 206 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 5: adds more creativity to it than you know, than than 207 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 5: than having to come up with something and have the 208 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 5: angst in your mind of having writer's block, or you know, 209 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 5: what do I do? 210 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: What do I write about? How do I write it? 211 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: And you know I didn't write it. 212 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 5: Fast enough right where I didn't sing it fast enough 213 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 5: or I was in the wrong wrong you know, octave 214 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 5: or level. 215 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 4: So will you have artists that are sort of part 216 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 4: of this support system who aren't going through the program, 217 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: but can sort of help be a foundational piece because 218 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 4: of their past experiences. 219 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 5: You mean like existing artists or new artists existing well, 220 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 5: I mean, listen, the conversations are being had with a 221 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 5: bunch at a bunch of different levels, with all different artists. 222 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 5: In theory, the idea is to work develop create new 223 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 5: artists right for the next generation, and we like to 224 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 5: call it the class of twenty four, right, and then 225 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 5: in turn, the successful, the success the success of the 226 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 5: class of twenty four will then power the class of 227 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: twenty twenty five. Now that being said, if and I 228 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 5: would love this to happen, if somebody just use post 229 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 5: Malone as the example, right, you know who's signed to 230 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 5: Republic Records but loves this idea, and you know, we're 231 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 5: able to get to his manager or him or his team, 232 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 5: and he you know, expresses his love or his appreciation 233 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 5: for what we're doing. 234 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: Now. 235 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 5: He may be working, he may be mentoring an artist 236 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 5: that's underneath him that's not signed to a record label. 237 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 5: He may be interested in investing in the company, or 238 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 5: he may simply be interested in you know, doing exactly that, 239 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 5: like sitting down with these artists as we're developing them 240 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 5: and have real conversation about the struggles that he's gone through. 241 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 5: So it's it's kind of a you know, a three 242 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 5: pronged approach, right. I would love nothing more than to 243 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 5: have you know, a Post or The Weekend or you know, 244 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 5: Adele or Bieber or Taylor. 245 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 3: Or something on the label, of course, But and I 246 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 3: think that's going to come. I really do. I believe 247 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 3: that as we build this, you're going to start to 248 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: see it. 249 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 5: I always, I don't know if you remember the movie 250 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 5: Jerry Maguire, but I always kind of you remember at 251 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 5: the end when Jerry and cubugating Junior hug each other 252 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 5: at the end after the football game, and the other 253 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 5: agent looks at his guy in the in the. 254 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: Athlete goes, why do we have a relationship like that? 255 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: Like you know, in the pursu way, I kind of. 256 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 5: That's what I hope happens, right that people go to Republic, 257 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 5: go to Atlantic, go to you know, Warrener RCA, and 258 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 5: have that conversation with the chairmans of those companies and say, 259 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 5: why don't you do this? Why don't we do this? 260 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 5: Why aren't I signed to a label that doesn't care? 261 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 5: Because unfortunately, and I said, I've said it a bunch 262 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 5: of times, the amount of meetings that I've been in 263 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 5: and over my career and the amount of times that 264 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 5: anybody has ever asked how the artist is doing probably 265 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 5: about zero. 266 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 4: So you're looking to change really a stigma, a paradigm 267 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 4: and have you know, certainly in terms of industry alliances, 268 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: people take the leap, others will take the leap. 269 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean we're we're first movers. 270 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 5: You know. 271 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: It's sad but true that no one's done this yet. 272 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 5: So and I was kind of thrust into it with 273 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 5: Jack passing away to take my two loves and put 274 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 5: them together. 275 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: Right. 276 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 5: But and so now you know my goal and Sam 277 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 5: my partner's goal, is to change the music industry. 278 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: So so the world of being a trail blazer and 279 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: an entrepreneur, it can be a roller coaster ride. 280 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: It can sometimes be a lonely ride. For sure. 281 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 4: Where do things stand at the moment in terms of 282 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: alliance building and the whole process. 283 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 5: Well, we you know, there's a lot of different checklists 284 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 5: that we have in place. You know, I hope it's 285 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 5: never a lonely road, to your point, because every single 286 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 5: person from the record labels to you know, Billboard just 287 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 5: did an article on us, which was great. I haven't 288 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 5: found one person that is set and said to me, 289 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 5: that's not going to work. You know, you're you're you're 290 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 5: barking up the wrong tree. You're doing something that's taboo. 291 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 5: No one's going to talk about it. 292 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: I don't. That's not happened once. And we're trying. We're 293 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: trying to find strategic partnerships, right that are going to 294 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: help us along the way. We're planning college tours, we're 295 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: planning festivals, We're planning you know, multiple recording sessions with 296 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 3: different artists, different writers, different producers, and and inside of 297 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: that there's different sponsorships and brand partnerships you know, from touring, right, 298 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: So We're having conversations with Uta William Morris Cea because 299 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: when we get to that space, we want to have 300 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: an agent that is is locked in to give us 301 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: first right of opportunity to go bring these artists on 302 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: the tour. We're working with other writers and producing companies 303 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 3: to have music brought in and selective sessions happening so 304 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: that we do have you know, stuff there. Then we're 305 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: also you know, we're we're we're king obviously with the 306 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: mental health you know, the mental health alliances, right, all 307 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 3: these foundations and companies that focus on you know, on 308 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 3: on therapy and self help and meditation and all these 309 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 3: different kinds of things. So we're building these sponsorships and 310 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: that's going to fund some of it. 311 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 5: And then you know, the more money we raise and 312 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 5: the more we have in our bank, the more we're 313 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 5: going to be able to. 314 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 3: Utilize all that stuff and and really do what we 315 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 3: want to do, which is educating help. 316 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: So where's the roadmap right now? 317 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 4: So where where do you stand in it in terms 318 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 4: of the ultimate you know, complete launch. I know you 319 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 4: had a launch party and you know all of that 320 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 4: to you know, obviously bring people together, But where do 321 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 4: things stand. 322 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, we we have. There's three artists that we're already 323 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 5: focused on working with. We have when I tell you, honestly, 324 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 5: we probably have thirty submissions already at our website of 325 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 5: music and people. Well, now listen again, you're going to 326 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 5: be hard pressed to find somebody today that doesn't have 327 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 5: some type of mental. 328 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: Health issue, right, which is what it is. 329 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 5: But you know, we have to We also are still 330 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 5: running a business and we do have to try and 331 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 5: find if we're going to compete, we need to find 332 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 5: the right types of artists, the right things that fit us. 333 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 3: You know, we're not genre specific. 334 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 5: We're a full service you know, we're going to be 335 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 5: a full service label in terms of music, country, rock, 336 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 5: hip hop, rap, pop. You know, it doesn't matter to me. 337 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 5: We just want to find the right artists. So we're 338 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 5: we're are. The train is rolling, it's out of the 339 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 5: it's out of the station. But you know, again, we 340 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 5: need to find you know, we're getting the funding. We're 341 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 5: starting to get it. We've had some incredible meetings and 342 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 5: we've already had three or four people commit to putting 343 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 5: money in, which is great, but you know, until that happens, 344 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 5: we really can't officially launch, you know, and go. But 345 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 5: we're already kind of off the side, working with the 346 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 5: artists that we already really want to work with, and 347 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 5: putting our time in and starting to create roadmaps. Whether 348 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 5: it's in you know, in North Africa, it's in the 349 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 5: Middle East, it's in America, it doesn't really bother us. 350 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 5: You know, we're going to be a global artist. I'm 351 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 5: a global label and work with global artists, and that 352 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 5: is for us, the whole foundation of it. 353 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 4: So let's talk to two constituencies that are listening to 354 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 4: the podcast. First, an artist that might want to reach out, 355 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: how would they reach out to you? 356 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: And to your organization. 357 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 5: First and foremost. You can go to our website, which 358 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 5: is Happy Jackrecords dot org, and there's information in there 359 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 5: which gives you the opportunity to do a bunch of 360 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 5: different things, one being submit your music and send us notes, 361 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 5: which is obviously that you know that you can connect 362 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 5: through us on Instagram, which is just Happy Jack Records 363 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 5: at Instagram. Those are probably the two best ways. You know, 364 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 5: it's it's a small company right now. It's just Sam 365 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 5: and I and two interns that are working with us, 366 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 5: and our financial guys. So rest assured that anything that's 367 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 5: submitted we're going to see and we will get back 368 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 5: to you good, bad, or in different. 369 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 4: Well, the second constituency is the partner slash person wanting 370 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 4: to write the big check. 371 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: How should they connect with you? 372 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 3: Pretty much the same way, you know they can. 373 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 5: They can always email me, which is David at Happy 374 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 5: Jacks with an sworld dot com. 375 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 3: So David at Happy jacksworld dot com. 376 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 5: Or you could go to our Instagram or our website. 377 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 3: But yeah, I welcome any of those calls. 378 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 5: But again, you know, what we really do want to find, 379 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 5: Like I'm just not interested, honestly, buzz, I'm just not 380 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 5: interested in someone just writing a check, you know, like 381 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 5: it has to be meaningful, it has to be We 382 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 5: want to surround ourselves with artists, managers, producers, investors, brand partnership, 383 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 5: strategic alliances. 384 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 3: That all want and believe in what we're doing. 385 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 5: And I think that's the difference is we're not just 386 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 5: a company that's open and just you know, someone comes 387 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 5: to me and says they want to write a check 388 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 5: for you know, one hundred thousand dollars, and you. 389 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: Know, go do what you want to do. You know, 390 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: it's hard to say no to that. 391 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 5: But I have to believe, and so to say, IM 392 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 5: my partner that there is a better in a in 393 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 5: a really good barometer here to be partners with the 394 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 5: right people. 395 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 3: And I truly believe that. 396 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 5: Like again I said, I'm not interested in signing an 397 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 5: artist just to sign an artist. I'm not interested in 398 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 5: doing a brand partnership just because someone's going to write 399 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 5: a check for a million dollars or whatever. There has 400 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 5: to be a bottom line belief in what we're doing. 401 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: David. 402 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 4: I know in a year from now, when we're regrouping 403 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 4: in person or virtually or you know, via the phone, 404 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 4: it's going to be off and run and it's going 405 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 4: to be great success stories. 406 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: I applaud you. 407 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: For the work, and we're all behind you and happy 408 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 4: Jack Records. 409 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: Uh in memory of Jack. 410 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: Thank you. 411 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I wouldn't be here without it. And you know, 412 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 5: he's just I know he believes in this. I know 413 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 5: he is exactly what he would have done. And so 414 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 5: I have you know, my life has changed now and 415 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 5: I have and I have a responsibility, but I also 416 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 5: have the privilege of being able to do this and 417 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 5: and you know, and even naming the record company after him, 418 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 5: and so I'm not stopping. I'm going to change the 419 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 5: business with my partner and we're going to do some 420 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 5: amazing things. And you know, I just I appreciate you 421 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 5: being one of the first people who's, you know, who's 422 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 5: recognized this and is believing in what we're doing enough 423 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 5: to want to talk to me about it. 424 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: So thank you, David. 425 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: Taking a Walk with Buzzner is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, 426 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcasts.