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Speaker 1: Campus in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily on

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Speaker 1: sp in Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura. All right, let's go live on a Monday

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Speaker 1: edition to Cleveland Brown's Daily. I am merely bow. He

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Speaker 1: is the great z. I'd like to talk about bolognese.

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Speaker 1: Would you? Did you enjoy it? Delicious? What a real

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Speaker 1: treat that was. I'm glad you enjoyed mine that you

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Speaker 1: took to make it to the point to where the

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Speaker 1: necessary things that are required in the bolognes and an onion,

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Speaker 1: a celery and a carrot. Uh, they were almost multified

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Speaker 1: into the sut. Right, it's just the delight of the

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Speaker 1: spicy so siege association. Well, that's what I like too.

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Speaker 1: What did you think when you got a little lamb friend?

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Speaker 1: Like every bite was a little little everything's a delight,

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Speaker 1: A mushroom slips in every once in a while. I

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Speaker 1: just couldn't be more happy with it. Um that makes

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Speaker 1: me by it. I was so excited when I got

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Speaker 1: at home Friday that I had as a snack, I

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Speaker 1: just I just had a little a couple of just

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Speaker 1: spoonfuls just because I was curious. But it was And

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Speaker 1: I like a bolognes and I make a bolognes I

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Speaker 1: think the big difference is you're time. You take the

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Speaker 1: time for it to really marinate and become the magic.

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Speaker 1: And there's there. Yeah, there's like a lot of great

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Speaker 1: flavor to it. It's a lot of It was delicious,

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Speaker 1: a real treat. I would rather do that than what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to do Saturday night. And yeah, I

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Speaker 1: had Saturday night. I gotta tell you about that. It's

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Speaker 1: hard for me to even even though I've lived it,

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Speaker 1: it's still hard for me to get my head around.

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Speaker 1: I think you're there. I don't know, but it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: it seems so massive. You can't help but touch it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I won't do Michael Scott, I could. Um. Look,

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Speaker 1: this sucks. That's the bottom line this. We should have

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Speaker 1: won this game and we did not. It's a second

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Speaker 1: time in four games that that has been the case.

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Speaker 1: And we'll get into some things that are gonna make

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Speaker 1: you feel a little bit better at some point, but

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Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is the Browns should have

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Speaker 1: beat the Atlanta Falcons on Sunday, as they should have

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Speaker 1: beaten the Jets, and they did not do so, and

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Speaker 1: that is not good. It is not okay. And we're

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Speaker 1: a team. Yes, we're playing without our starting quarterback. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and this one we were playing basically without our defensive

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Speaker 1: line and certainly the best player on the field, Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 1: and not a lot of teams would win under those circumstances,

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Speaker 1: and yet we should have one. And it was the details,

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Speaker 1: the little things around the edges, that allowed us to

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Speaker 1: lose this game. We'll talk decision making, going for it

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Speaker 1: at the end of the at the end of the

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Speaker 1: first drive, we'll talk about throwing the ball without the

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Speaker 1: benefit of play action on second and goal from the one.

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Speaker 1: We will talk about the fact that the one time

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Speaker 1: we had a breakdown in coverage, which was our linebacker

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Speaker 1: Jacob Phillips in this case, did not get the depth

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Speaker 1: on his drop. He should have gotten the corners, and

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Speaker 1: safety has played that perfectly. In their cover three. We

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Speaker 1: gave it up when they ran a max protection two

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Speaker 1: man route and we had six people in coverage and

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Speaker 1: yet one person was completely uncovered. What sense does that

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Speaker 1: make none We give up a sack on the final

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Speaker 1: drive when they rushed three and drop eight. Those little things,

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Speaker 1: those little details, those make a big, big difference in

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Speaker 1: the Browns gave away at minimum seven points in this game,

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Speaker 1: at a minimum. You had a stretch where your defense

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Speaker 1: But I think it was four straight three and ounce

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Speaker 1: where they did nothing with the football and you offensively

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Speaker 1: were unable to capitalize on that. And I thought that

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Speaker 1: was pivotal stretch. And the same it's the first half.

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Speaker 1: In the first half, folks, when you have two forty

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Speaker 1: a tie game. When you possessed the football for twenty

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Speaker 1: it went for the Falcons. They had punt end of

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Speaker 1: half punt, punt interception there in the in the third

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Speaker 1: quarter alone, second and third quarter alone. Here's how many

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Speaker 1: yards the Atlanta Falcons had on offense. Five in the

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Speaker 1: we didn't pull away in that stretch. We didn't pull away.

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Speaker 1: That to me right there, it's just it's in saying

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Speaker 1: that we lost this game. We have um as currently constructed.

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Speaker 1: We have a very a very tiny needle to thread,

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Speaker 1: can't in fact lose to anybody. And it is it's

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Speaker 1: disheartening because you look at this first month and you

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Speaker 1: said the minimum requirement was three and one. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we set that ourselves as the expectation. You go three

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Speaker 1: a team that was in the mix when Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: comes back. Now, one thing that I'll amend from what

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Speaker 1: be these great teams. Feels like everybody's pretty close. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that parody has ever been more than it

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Speaker 1: feel a little better about two and two. The rest

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Speaker 1: of your division struggled, so everybody's two and two. But

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Speaker 1: the flip side of that coin is you could have

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Speaker 1: made real, Hey, they could we have two games in

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Speaker 1: this and you should be four and oh and instead um,

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Speaker 1: and instead you're not, and the schedules about her to

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Speaker 1: get infinitely tougher, and and you didn't take full advantage

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Speaker 1: things that just kill you. And it did again. It

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Speaker 1: came back to roost the idea. If you and I

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Speaker 1: the quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons, Marcus Mariota is going

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Speaker 1: to complete seven passes, you would have said seven of nine,

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Speaker 1: for twenty five yards on four targets. So you're gonna

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Speaker 1: They haven't given up fewer than seven in a game.

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Speaker 1: did not do that. We did not capitalize. And we've

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Speaker 1: the only reason that games closed. We didn't capitalize on

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Speaker 1: we are much better responding than we are. We don't

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Speaker 1: of how to take it. They at least say this

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Speaker 1: be a very big play that led directly to seven

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Speaker 1: it is awful to watch ten play as seventy five

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Speaker 1: Believe or not, we should be alone with a lead

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Speaker 1: the same thing. They just blew three lead to the Pills.

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Speaker 1: They blew a lead to the Dolphins. Here's the difference.

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Speaker 1: the Bills and the Dolphins. They played against the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: And they are they have an ability to be because

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Speaker 1: not have that margin. Our margin is razor thin right now.

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Speaker 1: And so when when you don't do these little things

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Speaker 1: whose quarterback goes seven of nineteen. That's how it happens.

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Speaker 1: It is stunning to look at these the rushing numbers.

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Speaker 1: equally as stunning to think about the fact that that

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Speaker 1: we only score twenty points when Nick Chubb averages six

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Speaker 1: it's that no one's really looked superb and so no

428
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: one's run away from you. You're still in the mix.

429
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna get much more difficult over the next four

430
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Speaker 1: games and and really all the way until Deshan gets back.

431
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Speaker 1: It's a pretty brutal schedule. Um, this is the easiest

432
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Speaker 1: stretch by far. I want to say, I thought I

433
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Speaker 1: saw Jake this morning say, fourth easiest schedule in the league,

434
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Speaker 1: now the second toughest. Look, if we don't do what

435
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: we wanted to do this year, we will look back

436
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: squarely at these four games, and we will look back

437
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 1: in the Jets game, in this Falcons game, and look,

438
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: I feel for a lot of the guys on this team,

439
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: like this week was not a normal week because of

440
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 1: what happened on Monday with Myles Garrett and the ripple

441
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: effect that had on the whole team, the whole operation.

442
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: That's what everybody had to be talking about and answering

443
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: questions about. And it's stunk. Thank god, he's okay. That's

444
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: the most important thing, the whole situation. But for a

445
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: football team like that was a hard thing to deal with.

446
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: You would come off of a win, you got the

447
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: long weekend, you come back here, you're feeling good, and

448
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it's and you know, every

449
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 1: who knows anybody that likes the Cleveland Browns that wasn't

450
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: talking about that all week, So you know, players were

451
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: talking about it affected them, It affected our ability to

452
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: play against this team, the Atlanta Falcons. And obviously, and

453
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: I said this on the broadcast yesterday, people think so

454
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: much about Miles and Clowney getting to the quarterback getting

455
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: the quarterback. There are two of the best run defending

456
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 1: defensive ends in football. Oh my god, and Dad Aliens

457
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: made a that's made a living on that and Miles

458
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: is an absolute monster and not having that was a

459
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: massive deal in this game. I mean, it's very likely

460
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: that from now until Deshaun Watson comes back, we would

461
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 1: maybe be favored against the Patriots. That's it. That's it,

462
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: because the Chargers are here Sunday, than Patriots are here

463
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: after that at Ravens, Bengals, here at Dolphins, at Bill's Buccaneers.

464
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: That's the stretch. It is a gauntlet of gauntlets. There

465
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: was a clear path to three and one. It did

466
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 1: not happen. Instead it is two and two. There's no

467
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: easy way to make you to make that go away.

468
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: The reality is is pretty brutal on that side of things.

469
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Speaker 1: Um in terms of now you're just going to be

470
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Speaker 1: in a situation where, because the talent differential is going

471
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: to be in favor of the other team, it's just

472
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Speaker 1: gonna be trying to muddy up games with the exception

473
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Speaker 1: to New England. Uh, you cannot get in a scoring

474
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Speaker 1: contest with the Chargers, the Ravens, Cincinnati, Miami Buffalo or

475
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. That's not it. So you're just gonna have

476
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Speaker 1: to ground control. You're gonna have to squeeze out wins.

477
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Speaker 1: You have to take points when you can get them.

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Speaker 1: Every point. It's gonna matter, there's gonna be. This is

479
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Speaker 1: the other thing too, you as as I'm saying that

480
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Speaker 1: when you play teams like the Panthers, the Jets, the

481
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Speaker 1: Steelers and the Falcons, and there is a narrow kind

482
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Speaker 1: of path the victory, every single point you want to

483
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Speaker 1: get them because and I've talked about this before with

484
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Speaker 1: a lot of these guys who go for four at

485
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Speaker 1: fourth and I get it. I understand that, certainly understand

486
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Speaker 1: the mechanics and the logic of it. It makes sense

487
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: because you're going long field, all of it. Everybody knows it.

488
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Speaker 1: The one thing that is that I don't know that

489
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: you can put a number on is it is particularly

490
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: you can feel the air out of the sales when

491
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: you don't get it, and it's almost like that damage

492
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: that damage does it's almost as much as if you

493
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Speaker 1: would have gotten it in s ward, because it takes

494
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: away from your team because we just had the ball

495
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: for seven minutes, we don't score, and then it gives

496
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Speaker 1: it to the other team you get. It's a complete

497
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: momentum switch. Whereas you kick a field goal, it's almost

498
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 1: like no one has a moment. Nobody has momentum but you.

499
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: They still now must score. They're gonna match it to

500
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Speaker 1: match you. So that's what's and it allows you should

501
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: you get a stop and go down and score, now

502
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: you've made it a two possession game, which is a

503
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: wonderful thing to do. I'm with you. I think that

504
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: that's something that can't be quantified and put into these formulas,

505
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: the human emotional aspect of it. And I would say

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Speaker 1: it's the same thing for when you map out a

507
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Speaker 1: scenario that Okay, we're gonna bottom out and go oh

508
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: in sixteen, like the toll that that takes on human

509
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: beings and the fan base in the building and the organization.

510
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Speaker 1: It's it's hard, and it may be again it may

511
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: be the right thing, and you never want to discuss

512
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: process via outcome only like the right decisions, the right decision.

513
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Speaker 1: It doesn't always work out. Just anybody who's been at

514
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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. Just because they're showing a six and

515
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: you have an ace showing or you have eleven and

516
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,239
Speaker 1: you double down, Yeah you should win. The odds are

517
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: in your favor. But you don't always win. Sometimes you

518
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: pull a nine and now you have twenty and they

519
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: pull one of those thirty eight card twenty ones that

520
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: dealers do and they go, oh sorry, and but you

521
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: still was the right decision. And that's the hard part

522
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Speaker 1: about it. I do think that there is an emotional

523
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Speaker 1: part to football, and the way that I just look

524
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: at it is we're a team and now, and it

525
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: could be the logic could be applied all Devil's advocate.

526
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Speaker 1: We're a team where we're not We're not with Deshaun Watson,

527
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: so we need all the points we can get. So

528
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: we need if we're that close and we can get seven,

529
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: like we've got to get seven, not three. Well, the

530
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Speaker 1: next group of games, yes, but not this one, not

531
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Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, I mean you can't. You can't get

532
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: threes against the Charges, you can't get threes against the Ravens,

533
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: you can't get threes against Cincinnati. You're gonna have to

534
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Speaker 1: get that bothered me less though, honestly in the big

535
00:26:54,640 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: picture than second and goal from the one running drop

536
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: back pass, like just give it to Nick Chubb, give

537
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: it to Yella Froholdt. I don't care, or we have

538
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: sir sneak a lot, Like just run three sneaks in

539
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: a row. Yeah, you'll score, you'll score. I mean, you

540
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: saw freaked out they were about a sneak that one

541
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: of them turned into a sweep for five yards. I

542
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: know it's a weapon, but when we're down there, if

543
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: we're going to throw pass to me, it's got to

544
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: be a play action pass. You have got a hard

545
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: cell that the ball is going to Nick Chubb, not

546
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: just a drop back past. That was the one that

547
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: I want. You'd want back. And then look, he made

548
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: a great plot play call coming out of that with

549
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: the screen. Jacoby toes a ground, he hands the cream.

550
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 1: If he just gets the ball to Cream Hunt, it's

551
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: a walk in. It's frustrating. Yes, that's the word. All right,

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Speaker 1: we'll hear from coach to Fanski. Coming up next, Ye

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571
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: at disappointed, like we talked about yesterday. Frustrated. Um, you

572
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: work really hard to go down there and get a

573
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: win as a team. UM, and we don't come away

574
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: with that. There's always good, there's always things that that

575
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: you want to continue to do. And some individual performances

576
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: in those type of things was always good. UM, but

577
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: we got to really look at it and and look

578
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: at ways that we can go get that win and offense, defense,

579
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: special teams, players, coaches, all of us find a way

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Speaker 1: to go get that win, and so when you don't

581
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Speaker 1: do it, it's very very frustrating. Having said that, we

582
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Speaker 1: know where we are. We know we got an a

583
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: FC opponent coming to our place this week, so we

584
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Speaker 1: got to make sure that we learned from it and

585
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: then move on. And with that, I'll take any questions. Hey, Kevin,

586
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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about two specific play calls

587
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: and after watching film why they didn't work from a

588
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: schematic and coverage standpoint. The first fourth and two and

589
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: then that second and one where you wind up getting

590
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: a holding call. So the first fourth and two, yeah,

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00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: the past after Nike was stopped for the minus two

592
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: I think it was fourth and three from the four. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, on some of these, Scott, I don't want

594
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Speaker 1: to get too far into the weeds into the details

595
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Speaker 1: other than tell you we didn't uh didn't come off

596
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Speaker 1: exactly how we wanted to. UM. And that's unfortunate. Uh.

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00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: And then down there in the you get first and

598
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: one down there, you know we absolutely obviously have to

599
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Speaker 1: come away with seven points. Um, you know, didn't punch

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00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: it in the first down, passed it and got a hold,

601
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: which backs us up, which is really, you know, frustrating.

602
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: I feel confident that with some cracks at it from

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00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: the one, we're gonna score touchdown obviously. Um, but I

604
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Speaker 1: just I think the overall points got is is it's

605
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: it's it's players, it's coaches, it's all of us. We

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00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: just we have to be better. Well, when you go

607
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: jumbo on that second and one right with Michael and Yalda,

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Speaker 1: are you assuming that they're going to really devote everything

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Speaker 1: to the running, you're gonna be able to catch them

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Speaker 1: off guard throwing the ball there? Yeah? I think what

611
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: we do when when we get down there, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: you have a plan for goal line, and and they

613
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: had not been in goal line this season, so you

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00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: kind of gotta be You're also waiting to see what

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Speaker 1: their alignment with their front is this season. Um. And

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Speaker 1: when when the passes aren't there, you know, sometimes you're

617
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: you're fortunate enough to scheme a guy open down there

618
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Speaker 1: and when you don't, you hope it's an incomplete and

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Speaker 1: then it's third and one from the one, but unfortunately

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Speaker 1: we had the holy penalty. I got two quick questions.

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Speaker 1: The first one, in those situations where you go to

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Speaker 1: your director of football strategy upstairs, does he provide you

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Speaker 1: just what data or does he make a decision on

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Speaker 1: the zone and you'll buy buy it? Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure who the director of football strategy is. You're referring

626
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: to Tony, but um, you have a guy upstairs Juliani. Yeah,

627
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: we have a lot of coaches upstairs. I think for

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Speaker 1: for me, Tony and on all those decisions, it is

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Speaker 1: me making the decision. I take an information from our coaches,

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Speaker 1: from our staff up in the booth on the sideline,

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00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: and then you know, ultimately you gotta own them. Um.

632
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: And when they don't work, you're frustrated, But it's my decision, um,

633
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: And I understand what you're asking. But when we get

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Speaker 1: down in those situations, I take in all the information

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00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: that I make a decision. Yeah, Keim a defensive question

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Speaker 1: for you. I think Atlanta ran in fifteen or sixteen

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Speaker 1: straight times there in the second half. Just from your perspective.

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Speaker 1: What was so problematic for you guys as far as

639
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Speaker 1: slowing that down. Yeah, you know, they committed to their

640
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: run there in that drive and in the second half.

641
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: And it's never one thing. I thought we played hard.

642
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: There were times that we executed really well. There's times

643
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: that maybe it's one guy here or there. Certainly you

644
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: want to put the guys in position to go make plays.

645
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: But in those moments, you've got to find a way

646
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: to get them off the field. And a lot of

647
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: times that that can be pursuit related, that can be

648
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: making sure that we're assignment sound, all those things. Um,

649
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: but you got you have to find a way to

650
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: get them off the field. Yeah, coach, go into the

651
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: game and arguably there are three big players. Mariota you'll

652
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: hold into seven completions and Patterson to thirty eight yards

653
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: and and Pits the one catch, you know, and then

654
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: they go to the smash mouth game. I mean, is

655
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: that scheme? Is that personnel? I mean, what is because

656
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: you're down three defensive linemen. You know that's got to

657
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: be frustrating kind of getting beat at your own game.

658
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean you come in laying the league and rushing. Yeah,

659
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: I think for the frustration is UM not winning. And

660
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: I think the frustration is to your point with with

661
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: limiting some of their really good players, which I thought

662
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: the defense did a nice job. And then UM, obviously

663
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: we just had a couple of drives that we like back.

664
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: But it's just the margin that's in. The margins in

665
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: this game are so small, UM, and you and you're

666
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: trying to take away multiple guys and you know, there's

667
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: some really really good effort out there. We just gotta

668
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: learned from the ones that we can clean up the

669
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: plays that we know we can we can finish, or

670
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: we can put the guys in position to make a play.

671
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: We gotta learn from those. Yes, can I have a

672
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: couple of defensive questions for you to UM. But the

673
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: long pass up forty two yard completion there at the end,

674
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: was that the same issue UM in the Panthers game

675
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: and the Jets game? Was this something different? Yeah? So

676
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into this specific similar to

677
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: Scott and I were talking about earlier. Uh, you know,

678
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: sometimes it's miscommunication. In this case, just uh didn't play

679
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: a technique how we want to UM and and that's unfortunate.

680
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: And those are the type of things where big players

681
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: can happen when when you know we get out of

682
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: a gap or we're missing a side of whatever it is. UM.

683
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is we own this as a

684
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: as a team. We own the wins of the team,

685
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: We own the losses as a team, and similarly, players

686
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: and coaches we uh, there's plenty of stuff that we

687
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: can all clean up. Yeah, there is, and the cleaning

688
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: up will be difficult as the schedule gets very very

689
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: difficult going forward. Here coming up next, coming up next

690
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: here on this program, going to take a big picture

691
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: of what we saw in week four around the league.

692
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: We will get into that coming up next to us

693
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: to Cleveland Brown's Daily on ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily

694
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: on e S p N Cleveland. There's no good news

695
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: when you lose a game that you could win. UM.

696
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: One big theme around the league though, is that even

697
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: the teams that you think are great and who would

698
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: you define as a great team right now in the NFL,

699
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: I feel confident with Kansas City is great. I think

700
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo is pretty close to great, although it took everything

701
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: for them to come back and win, not lose their

702
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: second straight game. UM in the NFC. I don't know

703
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: if anybody is. Like. The Packers won, but they're not back.

704
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: I like the Eagles. I still do like the They

705
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: might be great. They might be they might be great.

706
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: Uh they got down early fourteen nothing to Jacksonville and

707
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 1: ended up covering one to improve to four. And oh

708
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: that one was played in the slop. Um. The Eagles

709
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: might be they they they have shown some signs of it.

710
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: But if you think about around the league, the disappointment

711
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: the Colts sitting at one, two and one losing it

712
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: home to Tennessee, Um is it. It's just a brutal

713
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: start for them. We had that though, by the way,

714
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: we did good. Yeah, that is a very good job

715
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: by us. We had a nice week. I think we

716
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: had a yeah, pretty good bounce back. I'm taking a

717
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: look at all right now. Look, I think it's pretty good. Um,

718
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: so that one worked out pretty good. You think about

719
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,479
Speaker 1: the fact that the Detroit Lions score forty every week

720
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: and somehow or one and three, they're on pace to

721
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 1: give up the most points in the history of the league.

722
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: It's like a big twelve team. It's crazy. And they're

723
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: by the way, they're about to get Jamison Williams back

724
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: in the mix. Goff yesterday was twenty six thirty nine

725
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: for three seventy eight and four scores. Yeah, and it

726
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: pick six that he's throwing two of those already brutal.

727
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: But they lose at home there one in three on

728
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: the year. Um, there are some absolutely hopeless teams, don't

729
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: you were obviously our games going on at the same time.

730
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: But Pittsburgh dropping to one in three, they make the

731
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: change to pick it. Everyone's doing cartwheels because pick it

732
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: ran for a couple of touchdowns. He also threw three picks.

733
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: Who who was the one getting the ball? Okay, this

734
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: is this is a selfish Nathan's a fantasy question for you.

735
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: Who was the one that got the ball to Pickens?

736
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: Was that picket? It wasn't what I was on us

737
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: and it was on red zone? Was it pick it? Yeah?

738
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: He had over a hundred yards and lead the team

739
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: in targets and had a hundred hundred yards. Okay, Breecee

740
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: Hall looked good in that game. I think the Jets

741
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: are a fun team. I said that when they played us,

742
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: we still should have whooped them. We should have whooped them.

743
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: The Cardinals and Panthers was an abomination of football and

744
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: I actually got to watch a lot of that. That

745
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: was just dreadful, dreadful. Baltimore blew it again second time

746
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: at home. Yeah, they were way out in front, couldn't

747
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: hold onto it. Um they they are requiring so much

748
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: of Lamar Jackson everything it is. Yeah. Yeah, there was

749
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: some in fighting at the end of the sidelines in

750
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: that game as well. Lamar did throw two picks in

751
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: that game, which Alan's was not great. Their defense really

752
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: held him under. He was nineteen and thirty six in

753
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: the game and scoring in a nine t They were

754
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: pretty savvy at the end though, And as someone want

755
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: in some league, I've got Alan and like, they were

756
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: down at the two yard line and he could have

757
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: just fallen in and gotten a touchdown, and they waited

758
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: and kicked with three seconds. Actually was pretty crazy. I

759
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: don't seeing me to do this. So they they take

760
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: the time out with three seconds, but they have they're

761
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: on third down. So if you bobble the snap and

762
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: you still have fourth down, you're out of time and

763
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: you lose. I couldn't believe they didn't call the time

764
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: out at ten seconds. So at least if you muff something.

765
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: You have another chance to kick it on fourth down. Yeah,

766
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: but I don't think they want to even trifle with

767
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: the kickoff. As my guest, probably but like, so what

768
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: you kick it on third day? I mean, it just

769
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: doesn't leave me. Marg Yeah, you should get done and

770
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: that's the way it's supposed to go, and that's the operation.

771
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: But they didn't leave any any any chance for that. Um.

772
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: It is a It is a league that is that

773
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: by and large. I don't think that the great teams

774
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: have looked as great as we thought they would be. Um.

775
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: I would put Buffalo in that category. They've shown moments.

776
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: Kansas City certainly has had moments. They lost it, Yeah,

777
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: but they lost to Indie last week and Indie sucks,

778
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: so that doesn't make any sense to me. Denver is

779
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: the worst coach team in the league by a I

780
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with that by a mile. For

781
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: the year. It's heart breaking. I mean, I feel like

782
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: to be to lose your number two pick in the draft,

783
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: in your fantasy draft, I mean, let alone, obviously we

784
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: heard for him personally, but to lose your number one

785
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: fantasy draft pick in week four and Week four it

786
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: is tough. Rough. That's tough, and also to never see

787
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: him really use the way that he was supposed to be.

788
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: No meantime, some of the teams in the bottom of

789
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: the NFC are some of the most dreadful teams I've

790
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: ever seen. The Commies in there. Did you see them

791
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: in their Steelers uniforms? First? I liked, fine, if you're

792
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and I wouldn't wear them against Washington bozos? Why

793
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: are you? Why are you black and yellow idiots? Like

794
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: the Steelers are black and yellow, and there's legitimately their

795
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: color because they just should have been the Washington Red

796
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: Hogs and had the cool logo and done something cool.

797
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: They could have even kept the original Honestly, they could

798
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: have kept the chief. It was designed by black you

799
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: wet sols and blackfeet chief. They could have just kept

800
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: that and changed redskins. They could have been Washington Americans

801
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: or whatever. Like. There was a million ways to do it,

802
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: and they bailed. They botched at all, and now they're

803
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: the Commies and they're in black randomly against the Cowboys.

804
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: They could have kept that are that was on? Yeah,

805
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: that Joe Gibbs are done Red Hogs. If you want

806
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: to get rid of any Native American association. The Bears

807
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: are the worst two and two teams in the history

808
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: of the league. They're dreadful. The Lions are the best

809
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: one in three team. Certainly offensively they're plucky, but you

810
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't you think that their defense wouldn't be their problem.

811
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: Like with a Dan Campbell coach team. I know he's

812
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: tight end, but like his that mentality, like we're gonna

813
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: be good there. It's like Drack meats Gino Smith. By

814
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: the way, it might be too good for Pete Carroll's

815
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: own good. I was gonna say, Pete Carroll is gonna

816
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: be furious. Yeah, I would think the NFC South is

817
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: the worst division in football by a mile. I mean,

818
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: Caroline is dreadful. The Saints are dreadful, and now their

819
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: injury bug is getting them. Atlanta is no good, by

820
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: the way. So I watched I got to watch a

821
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: little bit of the Minnesota Orleans game. Good Minnesota, I

822
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: feel like, does whatever it wants, and then all of

823
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: a sudden it's like they can't do anything. And then

824
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, when they need to, they can

825
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: do some things again, and then all of a a sudden

826
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: they can't do anything, but like when their offense is clicking,

827
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: it looks unstoppable. They've got Dalvin, They've got Jefferson who's

828
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: unreal feeling it seems he's always open. Osborne is a

829
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: good third receiver. Like that team just feels like when

830
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: they're good, they're so good, but then all of a sudden,

831
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 1: it's like then they can't do anything anymore. It's because

832
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: they're a bizarre team to watch, Like they were blanking

833
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: the Saints and then all of a sudden, Littavius Murray

834
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: comes in like it's two thousand and fifteen and is

835
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: running for eight yards to carry I don't know. You've

836
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: got you got Kyler and uh Cliff yelling at each

837
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: other on the sidelines. Just debacle you have. You have

838
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: Carolina getting booed out of their own building, and then

839
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: Bakers saying, I don't care about it, I don't care

840
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: what they say. Well, that's his that's his note. Of

841
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: course it is, but it feels like it is already unwelcome.

842
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: There's a guy who wrote for the that he's like

843
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: already the most hated panther and it's not gonna it's

844
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: when it goes good with him it's a lot of fun.

845
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: He's a great, tremendous When it goes good, he's a

846
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: lot of fun and he plays well. But when it

847
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: goes bad, he gets in his own head. He overthinks everything,

848
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: and then it manifests in the media. It's it's not

849
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: a good look at all. So I would not have

850
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: had a lot of this stuff four games in. I

851
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: really wouldn't have. Here's what I think I've come to realize,

852
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: and it's the fact is the NFL. Everybody's good, like

853
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: the even the bad. Well, some of the beds really bad,

854
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: but some beds are really bad and take some of

855
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: the bad quarterbacks more than anything, if you take the

856
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: Bills and the Chiefs out of it, like and some

857
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: of this is Chargers injuries because I think obviously if

858
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: they were fully healthy, they would be really really um.

859
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: But if you if you take those two teams out

860
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: of it, like three to twenty, what's the difference if

861
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,479
Speaker 1: we're doing higher or lower. You gotta get marginal people

862
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: gotta get happen. I mean, I'd probably say that there

863
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: are some teams that I like much closer. Of course,

864
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: the Packers on their best, the Eagles, for sure, the

865
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: Chargers ceiling, the Ravens ceiling, the Bengals. But like even

866
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: the Bengals, you know who, they have the highest point

867
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: differential in our in our division there plus twenty one

868
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: there two and two. Um. But even for them, it

869
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: like with Burrow, doesn't look like last year. No, he's

870
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: a little slow out of the gates. So it's been

871
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: uneven the first month, and part of it is the

872
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: approach of preseason in seventeen games that just no one's

873
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: right now. I hear that. I hear that, and I

874
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: think teams will find their stride. And that's for the

875
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: Browns again. That's why this is so unfortunate, is that

876
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: you had a chance to give yourself a cushion going

877
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: into a difficult stretch. You had a chance to really

878
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: give yourself a cushion and put yourself in a great

879
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: position because look, there's no doubt from what we've seen

880
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: from this team offensively with Jacoby Briset that with Deshaun Watson,

881
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: we have a chance to be something of of real

882
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: consequence as an offensive football team. You have to right now,

883
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: in all the advanced metrics were like the number five

884
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: offense in the league. And that's with Jacoby Briset with

885
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: a receiving corps that is Amari DPJ and Najoku. I mean,

886
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: you're getting Dave Bell made a nice catch on that

887
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: one career twenty yards. You're getting nothing from Anthony Schwartz,

888
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: nothing like we need to bring somebody. I think he

889
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: played eleven snaps. I don't even remember him on the field.

890
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: I want to say eleven. And I don't think that

891
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: he was targeted or produced a stat. I don't know

892
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: that he I don't think he's produced a stat since Carolina. Yeah. Yeah,

893
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: so that's where you're at. We'll get the hops take

894
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,200
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Speaker 1: Daily Time for the Joe Thomas hour of Cleveland Brown's Dailys,

901
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: we welcome in the off Uh well, I mean, Nathan,

902
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: I have talked this through. It's a tough bitter pill

903
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: to swallow. My friend, Um as you watch it knowing

904
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: all that's at stake now important three and one wasn't

905
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: how to sit there at too and to where are

906
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: you here on this reaction? Monday, my friend I am.

907
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: I am still at a loss for words. That had

908
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: a buddy that was done at the game in Atlanta

909
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: Technique this morning. He's like, I'm not feeling any good.

910
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: I just can't believe we've let another one slip away.

911
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: And I just wrote back, I'm still not ready to

912
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: talk because I'm still in that grieving stage right now

913
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: because you feel like you let another one slip away.

914
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: We had three in one right there, which is kind

915
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: of the standard we were looking to get to after

916
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: this first almost quarter of the season, and unfortunately, because

917
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: played down the stretch was not good enough, we let

918
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: another one slip away, given up over two yards rushing,

919
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: defensive breakdowns in the secondary once again, and even an

920
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: opportunity there with the offense at the end where you thought, hey,

921
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: our offensei's been playing really well to last two and

922
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: a half three weeks of the season. They got an

923
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: opportunity to go down there and kind of save the defense,

924
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: bail them out a little bit. And in that moment,

925
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the offense just wasn't playing up.

926
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: It's enough, Jacoby is not seeing the field quite as well,

927
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: and we missed an opportunity to kick a field goal

928
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: and take it overtime. So a lot of disappointing things happened.

929
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 1: But you see that the talent that we've been talking

930
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: about is there. But when you don't tap into that potential,

931
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: it makes you even more disappointed. Half when you take

932
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: a step back, Look, we're frustrated. I think everybody's frustrated.

933
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: Know and and there are something's good. We can talk

934
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: about those in a second, but like, what is it

935
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: that this team is lacking? Our assertion was it's in

936
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: the details. It's in the no one that we're scratching

937
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: and clawing. We've got to be good in the details.

938
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: We can't blow a coverage whether where Jacob Phillips doesn't

939
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: get the depth on his drop like he was supposed to.

940
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: We can't not score any points on the opening drive.

941
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: We can't have a holding penalty at second and goal

942
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: from the one. Maybe we just run the ball there,

943
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 1: but I don't know. It just feels like this team

944
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: in a game in which in the second quarter, Atlanta

945
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: had five yards of offense, and in the third quarter

946
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: Atlanta had this is real. They had eleven yards total

947
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: in the second and third quarters, five yards in the second,

948
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: six and the third and we didn't. We weren't up

949
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: by twenty at that point, Like do we just? How

950
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: do we? It feels like we don't have that killer

951
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: instinct we should have. Not only should we be four, No,

952
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: I think we should have won all four of these

953
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: games handily, despite the fact that we're playing a backup quarterback.

954
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: Despite the fact then this one we didn't have Miles

955
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: or Clowney or Taven Bryan. I don't care. It just

956
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: feels like this team lacks the ability to to pull

957
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: away or to have that killer instinct to win these games.

958
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: What do you see? So when you have close games,

959
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of situational football that when I think, yeah,

960
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: the details. So I think back to like the Patriots

961
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: for those twenty years that they had Brady at the quarterback. Look,

962
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: you look back, how many close games they wanted. Unbelievable,

963
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: Like how many times they were either behind and Brady

964
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: leaves them down the field and everybody's cooking. You know

965
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: exactly what they need to do in those situations because one,

966
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: they practiced it probably more than anybody, Like there's nobody

967
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: that drills it into your head more than a Belicheck

968
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: coach or Belichick himself, that these are the things that

969
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: win in the football game. But then those guys depend

970
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: in those situations. They've got a veteran laden roster led

971
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: by a veteran quarterback who then in those situations where

972
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: he knows exactly what needs to get done. Everybody knows

973
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: their role, they know the details of their role, and

974
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: they're able to go out and execute in those critical

975
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: moments because of their experience. One of the conversations we

976
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: have Nathan and both like in training camp a bunch

977
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: is how this is a really young team, which is

978
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,919
Speaker 1: great because it sets us up for a long run

979
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: of success. However, this is a young team and so

980
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: these guys haven't been in those battles and they don't

981
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: know a lot of times exactly the detail of what

982
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: they need to get done in those moments because they

983
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: haven't been in some of those unique situations when the

984
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: game was actually on the line, not just practice situation,

985
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: and when you haven't been there before, sometimes guys excel

986
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: sometimes the moment becomes a little bit too big for

987
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: the players, and because they're just not exactly totally sure

988
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: of what they need to do, it caused them to

989
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: be a little bit tentative. And I think you're seeing

990
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: some of that in those moments. And when guys are tentatives,

991
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: sometimes they take their foot off the gas because I'd

992
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: rather be cautious. They go up and try to make

993
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: the play that wins the game because I don't want

994
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: to be the reason we lose, Joe, can you I

995
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean that which we're looking for looking

996
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: for things here, I guess in simplest terms, can you

997
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: teach fire or is that something you have or you don't?

998
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: Is that innate? I think that's something you have. I think, Uh.

999
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,959
Speaker 1: There can be a sense of urgency, you know, ratch

1000
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: it up the urgency a little bit. You can feel

1001
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: the urgency maybe more as a player when you're staring

1002
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: down the barrel if it's you know, loser leave town

1003
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: type situation. When you get towards the playoffs or towards

1004
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: the end of the season where you need to win

1005
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: a handful of games to be able to make the

1006
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: playoffs or win your division, so I think pressure has

1007
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: a way of sometimes ratcheting that up and bringing that

1008
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: urgency out of you a little bit. But also to

1009
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: my earlier point, like sometimes when you have more pressure,

1010
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: you know, you see guys that crumble sometimes in those

1011
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: moments than under pressure. So um, I mean it can

1012
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: go both ways. As a player, what are your thoughts

1013
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: of on the opening drive not getting points going forward

1014
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: on fourth down? It's one of those. Obviously, if it works,

1015
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: it's great. If it doesn't, people are gonna question it

1016
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: the whole time. You know, what do you make of

1017
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: that as a player and for us to be able

1018
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: you know, analytics would say, yes, you do go for

1019
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: it there, but what are the emotions that it actually

1020
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: takes on a player on an offense when you go,

1021
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: you know, right down the field, what was it eight place,

1022
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: seventy six yards and come away with nothing? Well, if

1023
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: I would be disappointing, just like it is for a fan.

1024
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: But as a player, I think it's probably better honestly

1025
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: to go for it early in those games, especially when

1026
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: the analytics says this is a good risk to take,

1027
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: because if you don't make it, it's not as deflating

1028
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: like if I was looking at it from my player's standpoint,

1029
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: and if I was one of the captain on that offense,

1030
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: you go right down the field. Yeah you don't get

1031
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: it on fourth down, But the message when you come

1032
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: to the sideline is not, oh no, we blew a chance.

1033
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: The games over the messages. Look how much better than

1034
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: they are? Look how much better than they are we are.

1035
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I should work on my cheech before I

1036
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: go touch We are in them. Look at how much

1037
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: better we are than those clowns. These clowns, we kick

1038
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: their ass up and down the field. Yeah, we didn't

1039
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: come away with points, but you see we're better prepared.

1040
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: We're ready to go out there and do it again.

1041
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get back on the field. Right.

1042
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: It's a positive message of yeah, we didn't get done

1043
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: what we needed to at the end, but look at

1044
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: our situation. Look at the opportunity we have. We can

1045
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: roll these dudes. We can have unit yards rushing, we

1046
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 1: can keep our quarterback clean, we can win by three scores,

1047
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: like everything's right there. Like to me, that has an

1048
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: opportunity to build excitement, Whereas maybe if that happens a

1049
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 1: little bit later in the game, you can feel like

1050
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: we let one slip away. We were so close and

1051
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: we screwed it up on that fourth down. So I

1052
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: like being aggressive, especially early on. It's sort of setting

1053
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: that the message at the beginning of the game from

1054
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: your head coach, like, we expect to win this game.

1055
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: We want to put it on our players. We're gonna

1056
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: put you guys in those situations to grab the game

1057
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: and to go out and win. And so I think

1058
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: those are good situations now. Of course, and hind thought

1059
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: you always say, ah, we should have run it, we

1060
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: should have thrown it, we should have kicked it. Because

1061
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: if what you do doesn't work, you know, you're it's

1062
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: a game of hindsight, and it's a game of a

1063
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: lot of people looking back when you lose as a

1064
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: Monday morning quarterback, just like we are saying, ah, this

1065
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: is all the things you should have done, you could

1066
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: have done that would have led to a victory. Yeah,

1067
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: and it's it's you know, we talked a lot about

1068
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: the offensive stuff and and some of those questions. I mean,

1069
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: you you forced a quarterback to go seven and ninety

1070
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: with a pick with an interception in an NFL game,

1071
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: you win, like that's automatic. In less you give up

1072
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: two hundred and two yards on the ground. UM. And

1073
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: obviously the losses of Miles and Jadevion were felt bigly,

1074
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: But in terms of the defensive plan and the performance

1075
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: that was put out there and again you held them

1076
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: to twenty three, I guess, um, but it's just an ability.

1077
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: It's six yards to carry. That's hard to swallow on

1078
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 1: a Monday, isn't it. Yeah? But nothing through the air. Yeah.

1079
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: I think going into the game, you know who Marcus

1080
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: Mario is, Like, he's a guy that's if he's going

1081
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: to hurt you, it's going to be with his eight

1082
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: You know, he's not a guy that's going to throw

1083
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: the ball and hurt you consistently. And so you have

1084
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: to be ready for the rushing attack. Um. Let's not

1085
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: forget the Atlanta Falcons cash and not there. But his

1086
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: scheme is an offense, so this is kind of an

1087
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: underrated offensive line. It's definitely an underrated running game. UM.

1088
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: And in the Sunday that cor Darrel Patterson, who's your

1089
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: best running back, only gets nine carries for thirty eight yards.

1090
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: Judea told me that Sunday morning, when I woke up,

1091
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, great, We're winning this one, going

1092
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: away like this is an easy victory because the only

1093
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 1: way they can win the game is that they run

1094
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: the ball, probably with Patterson, and so it's very frustrating

1095
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: to still give up over two yards rushing, especially in

1096
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: the critical moments in the second half, where it just

1097
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: felt like just coming, you know, the running the ball

1098
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: every single time time, and it's not like it's creative, creative,

1099
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: crazy traps, pin pulls, toss tracks, you know, wide receiver reverses,

1100
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: and it's it's just your bread and butter inside and

1101
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: outside zone. I mean, it was like watching and practice

1102
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: from two thousand and fourteen, and your inability to stop

1103
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: the bleeding in the middle of those drives was frustrating me.

1104
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: We blitzed Mariota the dropbacks, and I think some of

1105
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: those blitzes were because we couldn't stop the Runts were

1106
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: blissing the past. We're blitzing coming out the bus because

1107
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: we knew that our defensive line couldn't hold up. And

1108
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: I think one of the things is we do have

1109
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: a pretty young defensive line, especially without Clowney and Miles Garrett,

1110
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: and when teams start rushing the outside zone against you,

1111
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: and they get into a rhythm and they start cracking

1112
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: off five, six, eight, nine, four or six yard runs

1113
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 1: like it gets tiring, one demoralizing, and and that's when

1114
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: we used to when when we ran that offense, we

1115
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: used to really smell blood and water because we now

1116
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: started seeing defensive lineman getting out of gaps. They're not

1117
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: even looking for the ball carrier because they're just trying

1118
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: to run with you and try to maintain their gap,

1119
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: which they're not doing a very good job of. And

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Speaker 1: I saw that a little bit up front. I saw

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00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: Perry on Winfrey made some nice place but then there

1122
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: were some times he was getting out of his gap

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Speaker 1: and he was having a hard time keeping up at

1124
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Speaker 1: the pace of play when the Falcons were starting to

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00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: pour the gas on with those drives where they just

1126
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: kept running the football. Yeah, I mean again, you look

1127
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 1: at these things. We hold them to three of nine

1128
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: on third down, you know, two or four in the

1129
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: red zone that's good, one of three in golden goal situations,

1130
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: that's good. We got an interception, that's good. We possessed

1131
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: it all for over thirty five minutes really basically thirty

1132
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: six minutes in this game, and the Browns lost and

1133
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: the Browns had two games where you know they shouldn't

1134
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: have lost, but you're right, they were able to gash

1135
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: It went on a ten place, seventy five yard drive

1136
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: that was ten runs and they ran it into the

1137
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: end zone after not being able to do anything off pensively.

1138
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: It's just it's frustrating. And this one, I think, you know,

1139
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: given what this defense who they had at their disposal

1140
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: against an offense that had been really effective and it's

1141
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: I mean they're top six and yards per pass and

1142
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: yards per run. Even after this game, the Falcons in

1143
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: terms of yards prest still top six. So they have

1144
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: been a very productive offense this year against the Rams,

1145
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks and we're not a great defense, and

1146
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: against st who are a pretty good defense. So this

1147
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: was tough. I just think offensively, we didn't do enough

1148
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: in this one half and and it comes down to

1149
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: little things, right. It's a third down pass to Harrison

1150
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: Bryant that if he hits that one, you get the

1151
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: man a man coverage you want. If he hits that one,

1152
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: you know where there we were just a little bit off,

1153
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: it felt like in terms of being able to capitalize

1154
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: on the on the things in front of us, and

1155
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: and it's just it's frustrating, Like how do you as

1156
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: a team. You know you should be three and one,

1157
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: right at at minimum you probably know you should be

1158
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: four and oh and yet you're two and two. Is

1159
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: is it easy to get like the Clyde Dale half

1160
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: and put those blinders on and be like, all right,

1161
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: it's done, We've got to just get onto the chargers. Well,

1162
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: it's the Jeff to do as a player. Um, you know,

1163
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: I think one of the only good things to come

1164
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: from a career that was spent with ten straight losing

1165
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: seasons is understanding like, hey, we lost the last one.

1166
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: We may not have done what we wanted to, but

1167
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 1: we can't draw on that. We can't take like a fan.

1168
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: We gotta think like this is our job where professionals,

1169
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: we're getting paid to go win the next game, not

1170
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 1: to dwell on the disappointment of the last game. Um, so,

1171
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: I mean you have to correct the mistakes, obviously, you

1172
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: have to understand that this is a game of a

1173
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 1: million little things, and it's putting those million little things

1174
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: together that allows you to go out and win. That's

1175
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: one of my favorite quotes of all times. I who

1176
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: Bolos came from his dad, who was apparently a legendary

1177
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: high school coach in somewhere OLDI I don't know, Pennsylvania

1178
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: or something like that, wherever he wherever he was high

1179
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: school coach um. But but it's really true because the

1180
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: NFL just a random collection of millions of things. And

1181
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: your offensive lineman, quarterbacks, those are the positions that really

1182
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: see it the most, right, because it's just all these

1183
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: unaffiliated things that you have to remember, and you have

1184
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: to be on front of mind and you have to

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01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: be sharp with in those critical situations. So your brain

1186
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: has to constantly be changing what it's thinking about from all. Right,

1187
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Speaker 1: now it's the first quarter. Here's the things that I

1188
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: have to be prepared for. Boom boom boom. Okay, now

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Speaker 1: it's the end of the half. Now I have to

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Speaker 1: go in the end a half mode and start thinking

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Speaker 1: about all the little things that I have to think

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Speaker 1: about when this play comes in that I have to

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Speaker 1: be prepared for. Oh, now it's the end of the game.

1194
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: I have to be sharpened to be able to execute

1195
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: those things. And it's putting those million things together that

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Speaker 1: determines wins and losing. In the best teams in the

1197
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: NFL and the worst teams in the NFL aren't that

1198
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Speaker 1: different when it comes to your talent and your scheme.

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Speaker 1: Like we want to say, oh those teams, oh and

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Speaker 1: for one and three. Oh they think you know we're

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01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: four though, But dude, any given Sunday, it's a cliche

1202
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Speaker 1: for a reason, because these are all professionals. There's parody

1203
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: throughout this league for a reason. That's why it's so

1204
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: fun to watch and most games even when we feel like, hey,

1205
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Speaker 1: as Browns, we should beat the Atlanta Falcons. Were a

1206
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Speaker 1: better team on paper, but we're not that much better

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Speaker 1: on paper. Like, it's gonna come down to five place,

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Speaker 1: and who's gonna make those five places? They're gonna be

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Speaker 1: for us to make because we're the better team. But

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Speaker 1: if we don't make them, if we don't have that

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Speaker 1: detail in the end of the second half of the

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Speaker 1: detail in the fourth court, you're gonna get beat. And

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Speaker 1: then you're gonna sit there, what will happened? Well, you

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Speaker 1: didn't take care of the details, so you got beat.

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Speaker 1: phrase on the following from yesterday's game down in Atlanta. Half.

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Speaker 1: I'll start with you on the Browns secondary. You know,

1230
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Speaker 1: I'm so conflicted when we're talking one thought on this

1231
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: type of stuff. Because you hold Marcus Mariotta to seven

1232
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: completion for nine yards, no touchdowns and interception rating. You

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Speaker 1: should be feeling really good about that incredible performance. But

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Speaker 1: there's still the busting coverages that seem to be coming

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Speaker 1: at the most inopportune times, and when you're going against

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Speaker 1: a somewhat anemic by NFL standards passing attack. You feel

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Speaker 1: like there should be no issues whatsoever. They should be

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Speaker 1: completely stomped out. You can put a fall on man

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01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: coverage and you can then all the resources needed to

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01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 1: be able to stop that running game in those moments,

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01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: and they weren't able to do it, and maybe some

1242
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: of that scheme, but that's still something that we need

1243
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: to get figured out as our our schedule starts getting

1244
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: a little bit stiffer here going against this second quarter

1245
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Speaker 1: of the season when we're gonna be seeing some real

1246
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Speaker 1: studs at quarterback. Now, you're exactly right, and look on

1247
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Speaker 1: that coverage. I'll give the second area pass because that

1248
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: was the linebacker's responsibility there. But you can't have a

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Speaker 1: max protects play with a two man route combination against

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Speaker 1: six defenders in one person uncovered, right? Would you agree

1251
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: with that? Hop So that that's got to be figured out.

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Speaker 1: And and look, you're not talking the break that you

1253
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,439
Speaker 1: know Jacob Phillips is now playing, you know, fifty five

1254
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: snaps basically every snap out there because of the injury

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Speaker 1: to Anthony Walker. If Anthony Walker is out there, does

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Speaker 1: Anthony Walker make that mistake? I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: know the answer, but that's what you're looking. El said.

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Speaker 1: It's no Miles, it's no Clowny, it's no Bright. It's

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Speaker 1: also no Anthony Walker. You didn't have either your team

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Speaker 1: elected defensive captains out there, and you paid a price.

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Speaker 1: I thought our secondary in this game played well. Drake

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01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: Lennon was a non factor. Um Kyle Pitts was a

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01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: non factor. I thought Dell put had a couple of

1264
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: nice pass breakups. Denzel I thought responded very nicely with

1265
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Speaker 1: a great game. He was everywhere, come up with the

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Speaker 1: big interception. UM. So I thought our secondary actually was

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Speaker 1: good in this game. I thought it was very unfortunate obviously,

1268
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: the way that you know, you had a bust there.

1269
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: You everybody did their job on the back end. You

1270
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: had two guys with the vertical. The linebackers supposed to

1271
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: be draft and you're supposed to have one at each

1272
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: level middle, left, right, and nobody was on the right

1273
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: side there with Zakias and they make that big play

1274
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: on us. But anytime you can hold a professional football

1275
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: team seven of nineteen in the NFL with every rule

1276
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: to the offenses benefit is a really impressive showing without

1277
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: Miles or Clowney to rush the bastroom. It was like

1278
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: a college box score, honestly is what it looked like.

1279
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 1: The Browns pass rush Z. So here's the breakdown. Jordan

1280
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: Ellie got his first solo sack of his career. You

1281
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: got a couple of pressures from Isaac Rochelle, You got

1282
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: a couple of pressures from Alex Right. I thought we

1283
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: did a good job on some of their boot games,

1284
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: staying home, staying discipline half. I don't know if you noticed,

1285
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: but it felt to me like all of our pressures

1286
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: came off of running twists and stunts where we were

1287
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: getting guys able to loop around unblocked and get runs.

1288
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: We didn't make as many sex as we should have.

1289
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: I thought jok probably could have had one or two.

1290
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: We could have had a couple of them there. We

1291
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: ended up only getting one. But in reality we had

1292
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: to manufacture that pass rush. And I think that people

1293
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: who are very critical of Joe Woods right now, it

1294
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: should understand that you were playing with a rookie who

1295
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 1: was supposed to be a developmental project at one end,

1296
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: a guy who was not on anybody's fifty three. On

1297
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: the other end, you had a seventh round rookie. You

1298
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: had a fourth round rookie from a year ago or

1299
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: second year player in Tommy Togi. I you know you did,

1300
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: and a fourth round rookie alongside Jorne Elliott and Perry

1301
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: On Winfrey. You did not have what I would call horses.

1302
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say that we went out

1303
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: there with one of the worst defensive lines in the

1304
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: NFL yesterday on paper. Yeah, like, if not, if not

1305
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: the worst, in the fact that we pressured him on

1306
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: over fifty percent of his drop backs. We blitzed, as

1307
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: hof note about sixt of the time. I think we

1308
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: actually had a good game plan to stop a passing

1309
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: attack because it could have easily been a game where

1310
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: he had seven seconds to stand back there and throw

1311
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: all game long. Yeah, I thought the game plan was

1312
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: actually pretty sharp because I look at blitzes from two angles.

1313
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: One is like you're blitzing the quarterbacks to try to

1314
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: pressure him because he can't get pass russ there. But

1315
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: to blizzes are pretty good in a lot of situation

1316
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: two especially and based down a distance to stop the run,

1317
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: because it makes passing off some of those zone combinations

1318
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: pretty challenging because now you're adding extra players to the

1319
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. You're moving guys, and you're changing the

1320
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: combination box and who they have to have. So they

1321
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 1: have to be really sharp on their footwork to be

1322
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: able to pick it up seamlessly, and so it can

1323
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,439
Speaker 1: really disrupt zone blocking techniques. Um and they were really

1324
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: good blitzing Mariota. He was only three for twelve against

1325
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: the blizzey and they had an interception and only thirty yards.

1326
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: So from that perspective, like that was a good game line.

1327
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: Get after him, try to blitz him, shake him up

1328
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: a little bit, do what you can, because you don't

1329
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,479
Speaker 1: have the horses to be able to rush the pass

1330
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: or and you don't want Mariota to stand back there

1331
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: because as we mentioned earlier, he's the most dangerous when

1332
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: he's running, like his legs are his greatest assets. So

1333
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: the last thing you want to do is let him

1334
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: get out of the pocket or have time where he

1335
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: can survey the defense, because he's he really still leave guy.

1336
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: He's gonna look one or two guys and he's gonna

1337
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: look to run, So you want to keep him in

1338
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: the pocket and not give him in the space to run.

1339
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: So I mean they did a good job with what

1340
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: they wanted to do. Um I really you can't get

1341
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: too upset, like you just don't have the horses to

1342
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: sit back there and try to rush him in that

1343
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: situation when your two best pass rushers are out. Well,

1344
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: this one will be fun one to talk about because

1345
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 1: he never ceases to amaze. I'll go to you, Hafa,

1346
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb remarkable what he's doing right now.

1347
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: I think this is his third game over a hundred

1348
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: yards rushing. I'm really hoping that this is a year

1349
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,919
Speaker 1: he gets that NFL rushing title. But he's just amazing.

1350
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: Like you give him the football anywhere he is and

1351
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: he's difficult to drag down. He always gets more yards

1352
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: than what's blocked for. And he's the guy that everybody

1353
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,919
Speaker 1: on that team seems to look to in those critical

1354
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: moments when you're handing him the football. And I'd love

1355
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 1: to see us playing with a little bit of a

1356
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter so we can ice the

1357
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: game on his shoulders, especially being that we were only

1358
01:08:58,400 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: an hour from where he grew up and he had

1359
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: many people in the stands. It would have been such

1360
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: a great story for him that just being that four

1361
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: minute offense, just turning up yards, moving his way towards

1362
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: you rushing. But either way, the Nick Chubb experience continues

1363
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 1: to adays and impress every single Sunday. Yeah, Nick Chubb

1364
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: is he's incredible. And you know, we came into the game,

1365
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: I thought this stat was it was one that I

1366
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 1: shared on the broadcast. I thought it was just Bonkersville.

1367
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: But he had come into the game with twenty six

1368
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: forced mis tackles through four games. That was more than

1369
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: thirty teams had force. And that counts their running backs,

1370
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: the receivers, they're tight ends like anybody who's touched the ball.

1371
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: He had more forced miss tackles in four games, in

1372
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: three games, I'm sorry, than thirty of the two NFL teams.

1373
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: That's incredible to me. He forced another six in this game.

1374
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: I thought his his ability to kind of create yards

1375
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: after contact three point six and this one, the line

1376
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 1: did a good job though he ever six point two

1377
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: in the game. But he's he's simply amazing. I think

1378
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: that's why there's a part of portion of people who say, well,

1379
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: just run it with Nick Chubb every single play. Yeah,

1380
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: and you you can't do that, But you can't at

1381
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: second and second one from the one second goal from

1382
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: the one, you certainly can. Yeah, um, let's let's do

1383
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: one more here and then I want to go around

1384
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 1: the league, around the af C North with you guys,

1385
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: and it's it's Kevin Stefanski. I'll start with you. Uz. Again,

1386
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: I thought he had a good game plan. You saw

1387
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 1: what we were able to do early off of the

1388
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: boot and all of that. The screen game, and this

1389
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: is the one that if people who do go back

1390
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: and watch the all twenty two people, why were in

1391
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: so many screens? Well, if you look at him and

1392
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: now we were only one for four on the screens

1393
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: for eleven yards. They were so open, but Jacobe, for

1394
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 1: whatever reason, on a couple of them just couldn't get

1395
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: the ball. The Falcons did a good job of reading them,

1396
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: but there's opportunities to put the ball over them. And

1397
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 1: the one right after that second and one hold on,

1398
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: why Teller. All he had to do is get there.

1399
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: It's a walk in touchdown, and he did not do that.

1400
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: So I thought that, you know, I thought he called

1401
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: a good game. I thought from a strategy standpoint, it's

1402
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: certainly easy to say now, but if I'm at second

1403
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: and goal at the one half, I'm running the ball,

1404
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:02,759
Speaker 1: and if I'm not running it, if I do elect

1405
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,520
Speaker 1: to throw it, it's gonna be a play action pass,

1406
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: a hard play action fake. We just did a drop

1407
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: back and I don't know if it was supposed to

1408
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: be play action. Jacoby just didn't fake it, but it

1409
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 1: was a straight dropback. That's that's all I saw there.

1410
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: So I think some of the strategy stuff and the

1411
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: details weren't great. But if you go back and watch

1412
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: it as it was was the case. You know a

1413
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: lot last year there were plays to be made that

1414
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: were not made, and I think that will be very

1415
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: frustrating for this football team on offense when they go

1416
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: back and watch this tape. Um, but he's taken a

1417
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 1: lot of heat for this one. He's put it on himself.

1418
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: I do think the way that we're constructed in the

1419
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: type of games we play, three points is just so

1420
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 1: much better than zero. Seven is better than three, no doubt,

1421
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 1: but a guaranteed three is good because it feels like

1422
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: off all of our games come down to recovering an

1423
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: on sidekick, a late field goal here, something there, where

1424
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: three points would be very meaningful and so hopefully he

1425
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 1: learns from this. And I think at times it's going

1426
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: to be aggressive when you know your opponent at a

1427
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: time when you're playing a team that's not great, I

1428
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: think maybe being conservative and taking the points could be

1429
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: the better part of valor. Yeah, when I'm looking at

1430
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: the fancy and kind of grading what he's done, Like

1431
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: the scheme was there. To your point about the screens,

1432
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: like those, the screen game was wide open. And one

1433
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: of the hardest places to score a touchdown on the

1434
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: field is when you're on the goal line and you've

1435
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: got goal to go and you get a big penalty,

1436
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 1: you get moved way back because now you've got to

1437
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: go beyond ten yards to get a first down or

1438
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 1: a touchdown. There's such a condensed field down there, so

1439
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: you can't really run your normal offense. You can't get

1440
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: those secondary elements to back up at all because they've

1441
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: got the back of the goal line as their best

1442
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: defender there, so you you have really no space to operate.

1443
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: It's so hard to be able to move in from

1444
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: there that you almost always have to end up kicking

1445
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: a field goal. And for the Browns to be able

1446
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: to have the perfect play call in that situation to

1447
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: get a screen pass and to be completely I mean

1448
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: they almost sort of walked and had they completed that

1449
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 1: is it's it's disappointing because in that situation, set up,

1450
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: the call, everything was just set up perfectly to score

1451
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 1: in a really difficult situation, score touchdown, and they just

1452
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: weren't able to execute. And I think Jacoby is gonna

1453
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: go back after watching the film and feel like he

1454
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: missed a bunch of players there in the screen game.

1455
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: I think there was three screens that we had set

1456
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: up really nicely that for whatever reason, he was just

1457
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: not able to get the ball uh to the screen player.

1458
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: And that was obviously disappointing. But then I think about

1459
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: the play calling, Like Kevin's play calling was really sharp,

1460
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: Like there was not many times in the game where

1461
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: I disagreed with the calls that came onto the field.

1462
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: Now you can always argue on the goal and oh

1463
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: you should have to run it. You've got Nick Chubb there,

1464
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: the same argument in the Super Bowl. You know you

1465
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 1: got Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch should run it. There

1466
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 1: has to be some I will say from a player's

1467
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,520
Speaker 1: standpoint though, there has to be some level of unpredictability

1468
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: when you get down there on the go on and

1469
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: maybe to your point, I think it's it's a good point,

1470
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: Z like, maybe run a play action in that situation,

1471
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 1: but if you always run it, these are professionals that

1472
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: they get paid in The defensive coordinator has ten calls

1473
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: in a sheet that are nearly guaranteed to stop if

1474
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: you're just going to run it up the middle of chub.

1475
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: So you have that variety. I think that's really important.

1476
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: You can't be that predictable. Yes, you have the best

1477
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: running back in the NFL who's great in those short

1478
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: yardage situations, but you can do still have to be

1479
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: creative finding the ball, finding how to get him the football,

1480
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: also not being afraid to throw the football in some

1481
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: of those situations so that they can't just tee off

1482
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 1: and just line up their best run defensive calls and

1483
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: the run defensive blitz is in the goal on situation.

1484
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: But maybe it is fair potentially to say, hey, you

1485
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: should have run a play action there on second and one.

1486
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: But also the last thing that I think about when

1487
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm sort of evaluating Stevanski and the coaching is situational football,

1488
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: like are they calling the right place and situations to

1489
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,440
Speaker 1: get the players open, Are they making good in game decisions?

1490
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: And there's very few times throughout this entire season when

1491
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,520
Speaker 1: I have said, like, oh, Kevin screwed up that situationally,

1492
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: or he should have made that in game decision. Even

1493
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: going down the field at the end of the game, Um,

1494
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: Joel gives up a sack that basically ends the game.

1495
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 1: And if you watch that films we watched it today,

1496
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: Marty Cooper is coming wide open in the middle of

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01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: the field on a lockdown route that is going to

1498
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 1: be an easy pitch and catch for Jacoby to throw

1499
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: him the football and now we have a chance to

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01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 1: kick a field goal. And he's the best player in

1501
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: your offense right there outside of Nick Chubb. Maybe that's arguable,

1502
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: you know, apples and oranges, is it is a Joel

1503
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: or is a Chubb? But either way, you get your

1504
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 1: best player right there in a beautiful situation, and he

1505
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: just does does something you never let you see. He

1506
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: gets beat to the inside pretty quick, and Jacoby has

1507
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: got nowhere to go. He can't hold out of the

1508
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 1: ball and can't deliver it where he wants to. So

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01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean, what can you say about the coaching possibly

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01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: that they weren't coaching him to get ready to be

1511
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 1: great in those moments with the deets know that you

1512
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: have to win. And that's a valid argument. I mean,

1513
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 1: that's a valid criticism of coaches is like, did you

1514
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: coach him to be prepared to execute what you call

1515
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 1: in that situation? And you know, maybe some of that's

1516
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: not happening, And that's more of a hey, what was

1517
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: the result? Okay, if the result was bad, then they

1518
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: didn't do a good enough job coaching them up for

1519
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:24,599
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Speaker 1: let me just ask you this, because we're talking about

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Speaker 1: this earlier. Um, it feels like, with the exception of

1541
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 1: a couple of teams who are really really bad, that

1542
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: teams like I don't know eight to are all really

1543
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: similar and outside of the bills of the Chiefs suit

1544
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: to me, have both shown greatness. I don't know that

1545
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: I've seen it anywhere else in the league. I've seen

1546
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: a lot of goodness. What do you make of what

1547
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: you've seen a month into the NFL season. I think

1548
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: you put it pretty well. You've seen good football, and

1549
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of teams that you say, hey, you

1550
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: know they're they're okay, they could win from games, you know,

1551
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: they have a chance, they could compete for their division.

1552
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: There's probably just, honestly, maybe only three or four teams

1553
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: that you say, you know, they're pretty bad, like they

1554
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: really don't have a chance, And as a season shakes out,

1555
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna end up with three or four wins um.

1556
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: But it is definitely gonna be an interesting year. I

1557
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: think outside of the Bills and the Chiefs, I'm trying

1558
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 1: to think who maybe would be that next class of

1559
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: team where you say, yep, I think they've got a

1560
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 1: chance to really kind of maybe run away with certainly

1561
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: their division and maybe that number one overall seed. I

1562
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 1: don't know who else is out there. And I think

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01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 1: it's a combination of a lot of things. One, obviously,

1564
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 1: the NFL has always valued parody, and so with the draft,

1565
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: free agency, and all the stalary cap implications, they you know,

1566
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 1: continued to head towards parody um. But more than anything,

1567
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: I think is the advent of we've got so many

1568
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks in the NFL now. I think there's never

1569
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: been more franchise type quarterbacks uh in the NFL. And

1570
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 1: when everybody has the franchise quarterback, you always have a chance.

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01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: And that's why the Problems did what they did to

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01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: stop season. You could try to go get the Shawn

1573
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: Walton because they know that if you have a franchise quarterback,

1574
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: you have a chance. If you don't, you don't have

1575
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: a chance. And that's why there's so much parody. And

1576
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: really the only teams that are able to kind of

1577
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: elevate is the teams that do have that maybe once

1578
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 1: in a generation quarterback Patrick Rahm, Josh Allen. And then

1579
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 1: they are also able to put other pieces around those guys.

1580
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: And the next layer that I think why you see

1581
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: those teams separate is because they have experienced together their

1582
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:49,799
Speaker 1: veteran players mostly they're best players. Their core players are veterans,

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01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: have been around a long time, and they've been in

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01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 1: that scheme that they've been playing in for a long

1585
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:58,520
Speaker 1: time today have experienced when they get into those situations

1586
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: that we've been talking about, they know how to execute,

1587
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: They know what they need to do because they've done

1588
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: there before, and the moments never too big for them

1589
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: because they have that experience in that moment and they

1590
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 1: never you know, crumbled because they don't know what to

1591
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 1: do and they're not exactly sure is the exact thing

1592
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: that I need to do in this situation. Um, they're

1593
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,560
Speaker 1: exactly sure of their job and they go out and

1594
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: they do it. And we saw yesterday what it's like

1595
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: when you have inexperienced that important positions and certainly it

1596
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: seemed to can run the ball in the middle of

1597
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 1: our defense. That inexperience showed. But yeah, you're right, you've

1598
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: got to have that guy. You've got to have that quarterback.

1599
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: And so far, the Browns to be a top you know,

1600
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: six efficient offense. The way that we have been with

1601
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback shows that we're doing some things right.

1602
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 1: We just have to do more of the details, get

1603
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: back to a win, which we're talking about around the

1604
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: league where we saw teams not pay attention to the

1605
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: details and come up short. Yeah, it's it's all over it.

1606
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 1: And and if you if if you look at some

1607
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: of these some of these things even in order, I guess,

1608
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: so let's do silver lining. The reality has everybody's two

1609
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: and two in our division. Baltimore feels different about their

1610
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: two and two. They lose at home, give up a

1611
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 1: big lead to the Miami Dolphins and give up a

1612
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,839
Speaker 1: big lead to the Bills and lose at home yesterday.

1613
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 1: The Bengals, I think, probably feel like they're finally coming

1614
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: into their own, but I didn't think that they looked

1615
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 1: the way that they did at the end of last

1616
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: season in their passing game. And so all three of

1617
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 1: us have sitting there at two and two. Our schedule

1618
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,759
Speaker 1: gets brutal over the course of the next next seven

1619
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: games or so. Um, where where do you make of

1620
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: of those other two teams? And what you've seen from

1621
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: the Ravens and Bengals here in the first month, Well,

1622
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: the Bengals in the Ravens seem to be going maybe

1623
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 1: in different directions. Obviously the Bengals didn't start the way

1624
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: they wanted, but I've been playing a little bit better.

1625
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm still concerned long term about Joe Burrows. Um, you

1626
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 1: saw a lot of confusion the first three weeks of

1627
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: the season. He wasn't exactly sure where he wanted to

1628
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: go with It leads them to him holding onto the

1629
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: football and he thought the athlete that Josh Allen has

1630
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 1: or Lamar Jackson obviously, so you can't really escape the rush.

1631
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: So like if he hangs onto it too long because

1632
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 1: he's not exactly sure about where he wants to go

1633
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: with it, like he's gonna get hit and we've seen

1634
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: it before. He's he's I'm not gonna say he's a

1635
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 1: fragile guy, but he's not a guy that can withstand

1636
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of hits like a Josh Allen. He's just

1637
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: not don't like it. So, I mean, I think he's

1638
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: figured it out in that offense with Zack Taylor. They

1639
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 1: kind of got a little something against the Dolphins where

1640
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 1: they realized, hey man, maybe we should emphasize a little

1641
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: bit more of a quick game. Get the ball to

1642
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 1: these great receivers that we have on the edge faster,

1643
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: and then let them take the hits, let them try

1644
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: to make the play rather than always trying to go

1645
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 1: down the field. There down the field stuff will be there.

1646
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: So it's interesting to watch them next week to see

1647
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: if they kind of retained any of the lessons that

1648
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: they learned against the Dolphins on Thursday Night football, where hey,

1649
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 1: it's okay to get rid of the football, like you

1650
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: don't have to hang on and go for a home

1651
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 1: run every single time. Um the Ravens, I mean, the

1652
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 1: defense has just been really bad. I think they were

1653
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 1: the worst defense in the NFL coming into this game.

1654
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: Obviously they played a lot better against Josh Allen, but

1655
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: they crumbled down the stretch. And for uh US to

1656
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 1: think about the Ravens defensively as the weakness of their team,

1657
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of weird. I think the reason why everybody

1658
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 1: in the NFL has been a little bit of slow

1659
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, the Ravens defense thinks, because we've never

1660
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 1: been able to say that in the last eight decades.

1661
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 1: But I think unless they really figured this defense out,

1662
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 1: no matter how good Lamar Jackson is, they're going to

1663
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 1: struggle to be one of those contenders in the a

1664
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: f C. And I think for Lamar Jackson's sake, if

1665
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 1: that defense doesn't figure it out, he's gonna feel more

1666
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: pressure to make more plays, and then you're gonna see

1667
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: situations like we saw at the end of that game

1668
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: where he kind of throws the boneheaded interception when in

1669
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 1: that situation he can't throw an interception. Anything. You can't

1670
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 1: do because even throwing it away in fourth down, which

1671
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 1: normally is a cardinal sin, in that situation, you have

1672
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 1: to throw it away instead of throwing a pick, because

1673
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 1: that's the difference between given the opponent the ball in

1674
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 1: the one or two yard line and line which is huge,

1675
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: which the reason you go for it. And you heard

1676
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: John Harball after the game talk about the analytics approach.

1677
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: The analytics evaluation is based on the defense stopping you

1678
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: and the other team's offense getting the ball backed up

1679
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: on the one or two, which doesn't allow him. A

1680
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: normal offense is going to take him way longer just

1681
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: to get it out of backed up and then try

1682
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 1: to get the office guilt versus haven't on the twenty

1683
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: and being able to play completely a normal offense and

1684
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: go down and win and score. That's right half perfectly said,

1685
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: by the way, the man making that interception your former teammate,

1686
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 1: Jordan Ployer, who has become one of the premier safeties

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Speaker 1: in the league so far as he's got four picks

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01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: and has allowed three completions in coverage. He's so good.

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Speaker 1: And we had him former Brown, yeah before we we

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01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: know he got a bounce. I we have to ask you,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Wisconsin doesn't fire coaches mid season, Bud, that's

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01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 1: not in the brochure at Wisconsin. What what was the

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01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: feeling over the weekend with Paul Chris's removal. There was

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01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: a lot of shock and aw, that's for sure. I

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01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: got a lot of text messages from family and friends

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01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 1: who were surprised. Certainly, obviously the season has not gone

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01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: the way Badger fans is hoped for, losing to year

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01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: old coach Brett Pelma, who looked like a giant pumpkin

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01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: when he runs down on the field of windbreaker that

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01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 1: he still likes to wear. But Halloween came a little

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01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: bit earlier this year, and the Badger fans were scared.

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01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: It was not pretty. But even still, you had that

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01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: sense that Wisconsin has always been a program with lots

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01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 1: of patients. Chris McIntosh there a d is said it

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01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago that patients has served them

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01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 1: very well over the years. And it has. And um,

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01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: this approach kind of the old school approached. Run the ball,

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01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: played defense, tough, get tough guys, you know, coach him

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01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: up on the details. It's worked for a long time,

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01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: and so I think the thought was that Paul would

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01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: probably have the rest of the year to figure it

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01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 1: out and try to turn things around. And I mean,

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01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 1: it's not like the Big ten West is just loaded

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01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 1: like the Ohio state. It's in the East for a reason,

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01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: uh geographically, but because it makes me very happy you

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01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 1: don't have to play him all the time in a

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01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 1: different class than the Badgers are. But still, I think

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01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 1: to get fired mid season is a big surprise, and

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01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: I think it points a little bit to what they're

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01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: gonna do next. Um Jim Leonard is the name former Brown,

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01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 1: former teammate a point, and he's the defensive coordinator out there.

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01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: He's the name that a lot of people have said

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01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 1: is going to be the next head coach. And I

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01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: do wonder, not with any information outside of just looking

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01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 1: and reading the tea leaves that he was maybe getting

1726
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: a little frustrated because his defense has been really good

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01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 1: and that offense is maybe not held up there into

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01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: the bargain for a while. And I think maybe there

1729
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: was some thought that if they didn't do something now,

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01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 1: put Jimmy in as the intern and then possibly hire

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01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 1: him at the end of it, even but he was

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01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: going to leave, and then once he left, it would

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01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 1: be too late to try to bring him back, um

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01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 1: some in some other capacity or a head coach. So

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01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: potentially could be a dissistance that was made with a

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01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: little bit of input from Jimmy with a little bit

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01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 1: input talking to Paul and saying, hey, you know, this

1738
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 1: is kind of the direction we think we're gonna head.

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01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: And you know, understanding that Paul has been here a

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01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 1: long time and he was here before as a coordinator.

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01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 1: This is his dad coach here, not at Wisconsin UM,

1742
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 1: but Paul played at Wisconsin. I think his dad coach

1743
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:38,640
Speaker 1: at like pot pott Ville or some one of the

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01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: other schools UM in Wisconsin. But anyways, I think that

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01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: it will be really interesting to see kind of how

1746
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,839
Speaker 1: everything unfolded, because certainly it's been very sad at Madison

1747
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: in the last a few weeks and certainly the last

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01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. Yeah, it's just just rarely to see it.

1749
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 1: Always great talk to you, buddy. We appreciate your time

1750
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 1: so much, and thanks for your time today. Cool appreciate

1751
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 1: than all right, that is the Joe tim Um. You

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01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:11,559
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Speaker 1: the game. We got a Monday night at a night man.

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01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 1: I wish Lance was playing in this one. I had

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Speaker 1: more juice for it. Uh rams plus one and a

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Speaker 1: half at your Niners, my friend, the Niners are garbage

1764
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 1: some I'm my dad by the way on the way

1765
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 1: home last night from the game, and he's just like

1766
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 1: trying to tell me how the Niners and the Browns

1767
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: are like the same, and he's used to the frustrating

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01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 1: In the last three years, you've been in a Super

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01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: Bowl and the NFC Championship game. Like, what are you

1770
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 1: talking about? How many Super Bowls has he won as

1771
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: a Niners man, it was like, we want one playoff

1772
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: game in a a quarter century, Like there's no comparisons anyway,

1773
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,759
Speaker 1: He's down. Why are they favored? Makes no sense? Nerds maloney,

1774
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 1: Niners love it, Sae. We're back tomorrow. We're back on

1775
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: the scores. This week solid week, very solid week, Maybe

1776
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Speaker 1: the next level is coming up next. Thanks for listen,

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