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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rutfresh Radio, bringing you the

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Speaker 1: latest reports from the whitetail Woods, presented by First Light,

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Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.

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Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts

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Speaker 1: Case Smith and Tyler Jones.

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Speaker 2: This is rutfresh Radio and I'm your host Tyler Jones.

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Speaker 2: This week we hear from hunters around the country who

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Speaker 2: saw the benefits of a cold front and are working

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Speaker 2: to understand native vegetation versus agriculture, how and when the

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Speaker 2: deer relating to both, and what will happen in the

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Speaker 2: next week.

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Speaker 3: This is rutfresh. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: This is rutfresh, brought to you by first Light Gear.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host Tyler Jones. Case Smith's in the house

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Speaker 2: with me too, hosting this thing. And we have been

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Speaker 2: working hard the last week in Texas, of all places. Case,

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Speaker 2: why would you work hard in a place that's as

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Speaker 2: hot as Texas in the middle of October.

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Speaker 3: Tyler's just sometimes some people work hard and that's just

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Speaker 3: what they do, even whenever it doesn't benefit that much. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So maybe we should work less,

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Speaker 3: but in fact, I don't know, man, I just don't

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Speaker 3: think that's how we're wired. And tell you the truth,

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Speaker 3: hard work doesn't always mean success, but it is a

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Speaker 3: better way to find success than to just sit around,

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Speaker 3: so you can get out and find some new stuff out,

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Speaker 3: figure out your own little place in this world sometimes.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's pretty conventional thought that the rut

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Speaker 3: in Texas is later than the Midwest. However that's not

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Speaker 3: always the case. Texas is huge, Texas is huge, huge, huge,

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Speaker 3: and uh, you know, they're there's a lot of different

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Speaker 3: ruts in Texas. We've talked about it on our podcast

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Speaker 3: quite a bit over the years, and I mean we've

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Speaker 3: got ruts from what September to you know, mid to

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Speaker 3: late December that that's and that's like that is not

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Speaker 3: just like saying that the deer ruddy, but that's saying

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Speaker 3: like that is the absolute rage of the rut, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, that's that is the time that

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Speaker 3: they are chasing the best week of the year. It

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Speaker 3: goes from I mean, there's just a huge range because

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Speaker 3: we've got a big coast, and we've got desert mountains

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Speaker 3: that look like Mexico, and we've got the high planes,

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Speaker 3: carbl mountain white tails. Michael Wadell showed a big one

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Speaker 3: of those one time, did he? Yeah, sure enough. That's

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Speaker 3: when I learned that that existed. Really yep from Michael Wadell.

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Speaker 3: Michael Wadell, what a guy. He knows some stuff. Man,

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Speaker 3: He's been there, seen that.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I want to target from him. One time.

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Speaker 2: They did one of those caption this best caption wins

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Speaker 2: a target and uh, you know that dice block out there,

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Speaker 2: that's the one on that I said white l for President. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, what you were saying, though, and I guess

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Speaker 2: probably what you're leading to, is that there are some

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Speaker 2: ruts going on right now, and you and I decided

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Speaker 2: to travel a little ways recently do some different things,

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Speaker 2: and I actually went hunting on some public land and

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Speaker 2: We'll talk more about that on our podcast, the Element podcast,

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Speaker 2: later on. But the fact of the matter is this

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Speaker 2: is Rut Fresh Radio and we are talking about a

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Speaker 2: rut going on in Texas right now. We hadn't really

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Speaker 2: on this podcast yet this year, and there were some

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Speaker 2: ruddy ruddy things happening. And in fact, it was a

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Speaker 2: that's how you know, man, the animals were moving, they

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Speaker 3: Rut and there's no ruddy stuff happening, no ready stuff.

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Speaker 3: like the regionality of things was very apparent to me

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Speaker 3: And we didn't even see you know, I drove a

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: You talk about this some, but like you get to

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Speaker 3: like November eighteenth or nineteenth, and you can feel real

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Speaker 3: But that's not the case. And we'll talk more about

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Speaker 3: that as the year progresses. And that's kind of what

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Speaker 3: rutfresh is about, is to give you the up to

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Speaker 3: today information as to what's going on in your neck

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Speaker 3: of the woods right now. So, Tyler, who do we

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Speaker 3: have today on refresh Man.

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Speaker 2: We've got the gamut, We've got people in all the

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Speaker 3: At least.

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Speaker 2: We've got Chris Nickerson. He's up in Maine, which he

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Speaker 2: got Mike Hunsucker from Harlan bow Hunter. He's been hunting

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Speaker 2: good report for US, Tyler Jorden and Georgia out there

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Speaker 2: in Georgia. And then Graham Cronin from Vortex. He is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look at Boone Crockett right in that

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Speaker 3: like the top county for Boone Crockett in records. And

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Speaker 3: it's like, I don't think of Wisconsin as in my

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Speaker 3: because of your so called propaganda probably it's also it

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Speaker 3: really is a reflection of like my geographic location, you know,

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Speaker 3: like there's and it's because there's a lot of good

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Speaker 3: stuff to drive through to get to wisc. Consin that dude,

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Speaker 3: it is hard. But if you're you know, from you know, Michigan,

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Speaker 3: you might think differently. Yeah, that's right, man, Mark Marcus.

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Speaker 3: All right, anyways, enough of what I got to say.

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Speaker 3: You got some good stuff to say. But let's see

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Speaker 3: He's up in Maine right now. Chris, what's going on?

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Speaker 6: Hey, man, I'm doing uh actually, just took a quick

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Speaker 5: I was doing some scouting this morning.

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Speaker 3: Right now, man, is that where the bucks are sitting?

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Speaker 5: There are zero.

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Speaker 5: We've got some good bucks in the state. They're just

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Speaker 2: That's cool, man. I'd love to go up there, but

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Speaker 2: you know, it's about near, like going to a different

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Speaker 6: So I jokingly tell my friends in the south this

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Speaker 6: is They ask where I'm from.

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Speaker 5: I say South Canada.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like there's some Canada that

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Speaker 5: Sure they're actually for sure.

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Speaker 3: So what are the deer doing right now? Man?

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Speaker 5: I'll be honest, it's pretty tough.

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Speaker 6: Right now.

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Speaker 5: The deer are doing not a lot of anything.

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Speaker 6: I'm having a friend's farm here that I've got access to,

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Speaker 6: you know, between four and five hundred acres.

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Speaker 5: We've got cameras and very diverse parts of this.

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Speaker 6: Farm, and we're getting absolutely no day like pictures of

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Speaker 6: even dose right now. It's very tough. Yeah, it's very

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Speaker 6: very little movement right now. So I've been on five

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Speaker 6: not had any activity at all. So it's gonna be

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Speaker 6: a tough one for me here.

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Speaker 3: So but you're getting some night photos. I guess we are.

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Speaker 6: I recently the last night got on a nice scrape line,

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Speaker 3: But it's all.

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Speaker 6: Between mid nine four a m of everything we're getting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's crazy. But if you travel to hunt

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Speaker 6: Uh, if this guy shows himself with dinglight, I'm probably

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Speaker 5: So yeah, gantee your conditions anyways.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are you so or any of you've got cameras

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Speaker 6: We do, We've got We've got a few on some cornfield,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, okay, So but you're seeing that pictures,

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Speaker 5: I am.

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Speaker 6: And there's a there's such a diverse terrain here and

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Speaker 2: Are the Do you think any of those hardwoods are

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Speaker 5: That's actually something I've been looking for today.

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Speaker 6: I've I've spent a good majority of today walking since

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Speaker 5: It seems that most of the deer here are just

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Speaker 6: Gainings, and everything is chewed off all the top, You're

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Speaker 5: It's almost like they're just constantly and it's a tough it's.

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Speaker 6: Challenged to find a solid food source you.

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Speaker 3: Can pattern off.

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Speaker 2: I got you, Okay, So I guess you know going

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Speaker 6: This weekend it's actually gonna warm up, which is not

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Speaker 5: Nothing's really changing.

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Speaker 6: And it's actually gonna warm up just to tad this

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Speaker 2: Is it is it worth looking at water sources when

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Speaker 3: This time?

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Speaker 6: Up up here, there's so much water that it's really

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Speaker 3: Here, gotcha? Okay?

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Speaker 2: So uh, with the with the attempts warming up, I guess,

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Speaker 2: you know, that could be really good. You know, what

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Speaker 5: For me, I think at this point, I would just continue.

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Speaker 6: To do a little bit of what I'm starting to

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Speaker 4: Solid food source.

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Speaker 5: Because I think even with the weather change, I think

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Speaker 6: I think these bigger bucks, like the one, the ones

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Speaker 6: just haven't gotten onto yet. These ag fields are kind

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Speaker 5: I think that's kind of where it's at.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, in this next week, if you were to

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Speaker 6: I think I'm gonna be real honest and give it probably,

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Speaker 6: you know, smack in the middle of four and a

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Speaker 6: half of five. I don't think you're too much movement.

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Speaker 6: I think that's been been fair and I do think

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Speaker 2: Hey, well, Chris, I appreciate the report, man, and all

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Speaker 2: the information.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I like it when you know people people talk fast

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Speaker 3: So I appreciate it. Man, Thanks for everything, and I

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Speaker 3: hope you have a great season anytime.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Now on the phone, I've got Michael Hunsucker from Heartland

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Speaker 2: bow Hunter. Michael, what's going on, man?

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Speaker 3: Not much?

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Speaker 4: Just in the archery shop getting getting some new bows

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Speaker 3: Oh really? How about sure? That's cool? You your your

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Speaker 3: current bon won't shoot good enough? True?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I had to just it's just fine. But I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, man, you are.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I sent you this message on

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Speaker 2: Instagram of the day. But uh, you you know you

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Speaker 2: shot a buck recently and you hit him real good

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Speaker 2: and you usually do. Is that is the archery stuff?

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Speaker 2: Just a three sixty five for you always doing that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I mean I live and breathe up

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Speaker 7: for sure, but I mean definitely don't always always hit

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Speaker 7: them exactly where you want to hit them. Actually had

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Speaker 4: A world of difference.

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Speaker 7: So that's kind of cool about archery hunting though, is

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Speaker 7: you know I'm still learning. I've been doing this a

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big challenge man. Well, so the cats

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Speaker 2: Missouri and he's a nice buck. I saw the I

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Speaker 2: guess like POV footage, but it looked like the deer

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Speaker 2: was coming into food, Is that correct?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: What what little food was there? We had a brutal,

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Speaker 7: brutal year for food plots, but yeah, he was coming

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Speaker 7: to a green, green plot.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha, so brutal because of drought.

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Speaker 7: Yep, brutal because of the drought and just just horrible

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Speaker 2: So is that would you say that the green food

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, it seems like acorns and green food sources of

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Speaker 2: So I know it looked like you've been hunt that

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Speaker 7: He was really tight to an area and really wasn't

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Speaker 5: I mean I knew exactly where he was betted.

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Speaker 7: And had a couple of encounters with him. Previous one

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Speaker 7: And I did see him a third time off off

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Speaker 3: Wow, what kind of vegetation is he betting in?

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Speaker 7: He's actually bedded in. It's almost like kind of swamp

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Speaker 3: And he was smart, gotcha.

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Speaker 2: So it looked like to me in the video when

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Speaker 4: This buck. He jumped a.

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Speaker 7: You know, he had his momentum.

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Speaker 3: Going yeah, yeah, I did, man, that's cool.

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Speaker 7: So I was anticipating him just you know, going to

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Speaker 2: You you got that soft grunt, stop down, man, you

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I feel like that every situation is a

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that's right man. Well, So in the next

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Speaker 3: You think?

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Speaker 4: I think so.

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Speaker 7: I mean I think if you have good green food

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Speaker 7: But it really just kind of depends. And you know

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Speaker 2: one to ten based off those variables you talked about,

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00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,120
Speaker 2: what would you what would you put it at.

444
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,639
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say I'm gonna put it probably like a six,

445
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 7: six or seven. It's not not looking great.

446
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a if we can get a front

447
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,640
Speaker 2: though after that and that timing will work out really well.

448
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 2: I feel like where that you know, last part of

449
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 2: October and first part of November is going to really

450
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,959
Speaker 2: be on fire. So that's it's exciting that that's the

451
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,120
Speaker 2: that's the potential in the next couple of weeks, you know.

452
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, very vary into in the weather

453
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 7: is key. I mean, you can't just if it was

454
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 7: just cool, you know, for weeks on end, you know,

455
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 7: it wouldn't be as powerful as when it's warm in

456
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 7: the boom it drops out and then just just really

457
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 7: triggers them.

458
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely well. I appreciate it, Mike. I look forward to

459
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 2: seeing the full video on that deer at some point,

460
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 2: and I hope you guys have a great rest of

461
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 2: your season.

462
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 5: Thanks buddying you too.

463
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 2: All right, on the phone, I've got Tyler Jordy from

464
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 2: Real Tree. Tyler, it's crazy. We just got on the

465
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 2: phone with each other for the first time, never met,

466
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: and we're best friends.

467
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 8: I know, we're best friends, and you're coming to an

468
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 8: old mess game next weekend.

469
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 4: But that's how good are friends. We just became.

470
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 2: I feel at a lot of peer pressure right now. Man,

471
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 2: Well man, what's been going on. I know you've been

472
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 2: hunting a little bit. Has it been pretty good?

473
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's been pretty good.

474
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 8: You know, the last four or five days I would say,

475
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 8: have been definitely better, probably the best it's been, you know,

476
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 8: up to this point in the you know, in the season.

477
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 8: And you know, my little brother shot a buck last Sunday,

478
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 8: and you know, for Youth Weekend with a rifle, So

479
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 8: really excited about that, and you know, just trying to

480
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 8: take advantage of that first cold front. You know, that's

481
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 8: really kind of my favorite time to hunt is when

482
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 8: you have those first you know, two or three days

483
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 8: and it gets you know, cooler weather.

484
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 3: You know.

485
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 8: So it was happy for for Colton that we were

486
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 8: able to get a good solid eight pointer on the

487
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 8: ground and you know, have another big deer that we're

488
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 8: trying to hunt. But uh, you know, unfortunately, I think

489
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 8: the weather's really going to warm up later this week.

490
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you you and Colton shot this deer. What

491
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: was he doing?

492
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 4: He actually came into a food plot.

493
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 8: You know, we were we were hunting this food plot

494
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 8: where this deer we've seen him in several times. You know,

495
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 8: he's been on camera and I will say he has

496
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 8: not really been daylight at all. Uh, but you know,

497
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 8: we just kind of went in there thinking, man, you know,

498
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 8: take advantage of this cooler weather. And then the first

499
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 8: thing he did when he entered the food plot, he

500
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 8: came in and checked the scrape and we got all

501
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 8: that on camera and hopefully we'll put that up here,

502
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 8: you know, sometime soon on on our you know, road

503
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 8: trip show. But came in there checked the scrape, and

504
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 8: you know he was kind of, you know, bumping doze

505
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 8: just a little bit. You know, they were feeling a

506
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 8: little bit frisky with his cooler weather. But yeah, that's

507
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 8: kind of what he was doing when he came in.

508
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 2: Man, that's cool. So this is a green food source,

509
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm guessing right, yes, bid Cloverfield. Okay, And was this

510
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: a mock scrape or had this been put up set

511
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 2: up by the deer.

512
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 4: No, this has been set up by the deer.

513
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 2: Oh cool man. So as far as you know other

514
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 2: food sources, have you seen deer hitting any acrons or

515
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: anything like that, any oak trees or Yeah.

516
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 8: So that's been the primary, you know, food source, I

517
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 8: would say over the last probably two weeks, Tyler is

518
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 8: you know, I feel like that's what a lot of

519
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 8: these deer are doing. They've been a little bit just

520
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 8: more reclusive. You know, there's just plenty of cover and food.

521
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 8: I mean, I walked around today, you know, trying to

522
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 8: pick up this bigger bug that I've been trying to

523
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 8: hunt since really the beginning of the season. And I

524
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 8: mean everywhere you walk, I don't think I've ever seen

525
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 8: an acron drop like this. I mean, we just got

526
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 8: a bunch of red and white oaks kind of falling everywhere,

527
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 8: and which makes it, you know a little bit difficult,

528
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 8: especially with the weather you know warming up right now.

529
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 8: Is you know, just kind of really honing in on

530
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 8: exactly what to do. So, you know, we found an

531
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 8: acorn flat today and I put a camera up and

532
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 8: you know, we'll see kind of what happens. But it

533
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 8: definitely seems like hardwoods and timber is really where you

534
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 8: want to be right now.

535
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: Sure, So how important is the cold weather to that

536
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: success you had this week?

537
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I would say it's kind of everything.

538
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 8: You know, I'm probably like I've even kind of contemplated

539
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 8: as much as I do want to go in there

540
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 8: and hunt these these hardwoods. Over the next you know,

541
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 8: three or five days, it's going to be in the

542
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 8: upper seventies, and I just don't know if I want

543
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 8: to do more harm than good. So, you know, I

544
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 8: really think we're going to need that colder weather, and

545
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 8: I don't really know if we're going to get that.

546
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 8: You know, it looks like the twenty ninth and thirtieth

547
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 8: I kind of have circled right now.

548
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 4: You know, the weather is going to be in the.

549
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 8: Lower sixties, you know for highs, and you know, for us,

550
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 8: that's pretty cool weather, you know, because I I think

551
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 8: tomorrow next day, you know, it's going to be seventy seven,

552
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 8: seventy eight, and you know, just my experience, after that

553
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 8: first kind of cold front, the weather goes back that warm.

554
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 8: You know, that's that's kind of what I refer to

555
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 8: a little bit as that October lowll kind of dead period.

556
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 3: Sure, so in your region of Georgia, when is the

557
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 3: rut in your opinion.

558
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 8: You know, I would say, like somewhere like November eighth

559
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 8: to like the fourteenth, I would say, that's probably when

560
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 8: it's you know, really starting to pop off.

561
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 3: Gotcha.

562
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: So even even with that cold weather at the end

563
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: of the month here that you don't expect it to

564
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 2: be just a ten out of ten going until maybe

565
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: two weeks later.

566
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 4: Or so, I would say.

567
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 8: So, I mean, and that's kind of what I'm banking on,

568
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 8: at least for this particular buck that we're hunting, and

569
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 8: you know, for a couple of other ones we have targeted.

570
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 8: You know, I'm I'm probably more looking forward to the

571
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 8: first of November. You know that that's just kind of

572
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 8: where like my head, my head is right now unless

573
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 8: something just drastically changes, you know, I mean.

574
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 4: Not this say, I don't have any hope at all.

575
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 8: Obviously going to go in there and try to maximize

576
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 8: whatever opportunity we can, but you know, kind of looking

577
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 8: forward to the rut.

578
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 2: So you know, if things, if things cool back down

579
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: after we get this warm, kind of stagnant stretch here,

580
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 2: would you change anything about what you're like the way

581
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: you're hunting, So as far as you know you guys

582
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: killed near a scrape on a green field, would you

583
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: would you change anything if we were closer to the

584
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: end of the month when the weather came in.

585
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 8: Uh, you know, I mean I would probably look at

586
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 8: maybe getting a little bit closer to some of the bedding,

587
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 8: you know, at least at least in my situation where

588
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 8: I think this buck is like he's not really getting

589
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 8: to any of these green fields or any of the

590
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 8: have like some standing corn fields, and we've cut a

591
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 8: portion of it. And like I said on it last night,

592
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 8: and you know, didn't see but one deer the whole night,

593
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 8: and I could see a long ways. I think you know,

594
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 8: if we had that cold front come in again, I

595
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 8: would just try to in the distance a little bit more.

596
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 8: And that's something I may not try, you know, two, three,

597
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 8: four days in a row. I may just try it

598
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 8: once or twice and if it works, it works. But

599
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 8: you know, what I'm what I would like to do

600
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 8: is to get a lot closer to their to their

601
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 8: bedding area. Up to this point, I feel like I've been,

602
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 8: you know, real.

603
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 4: Protective of that.

604
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 8: But if I feel like if I have a good wind,

605
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 8: good weather, you know, that's something I'll probably try to

606
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 8: do different than I haven't done yet.

607
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: Sure, so in the next week or so, what do

608
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: you think the buck movement is going to be? Based

609
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: on a scale of one to ten? What number would

610
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 2: you get it? Give it?

611
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 8: You know that this probably is going to sound a

612
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 8: little bit low, but I you know, i'd.

613
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 4: Probably say even four.

614
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeap, good. You know That's that which is kind of

615
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: where I'm at.

616
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: Everybody's got, you know, get got these optimistic you know, expectations,

617
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm I try to be an optimist too,

618
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: but you know, sometimes you just got to be real

619
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: with yourself and say, Okay, these are work days. These

620
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 2: aren't hunting days, you know what I mean. Yeah, so,

621
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: and that's just previous experience. And that's not to say

622
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: it's not going to be really good for anybody else. Obviously,

623
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 2: nobody hold me to that rating in Georgia when they

624
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: send me a picture of a john, because I hope

625
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: it happens for everybody. You know, after that first kind

626
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: of cold snap, it just that October lowll at least

627
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: for us.

628
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 4: I mean, it seems to hit.

629
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 8: And you know, not to say you don't get a

630
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 8: couple of really good days in there, of some good

631
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 8: weather you can take advantage of and hunt, but you know,

632
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 8: with the weather warming up, I'm just not overly optimistic.

633
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 4: But again, you never know.

634
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

635
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: Well, Tyler, I appreciate what what you've done, you and

636
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: your dad have done for the hunting community man, and

637
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking my call, and I hope that

638
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: that big buck you're hunting gives you a chance here

639
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: in the next couple of weeks.

640
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: I appreciate it, Tyler, to look forward to doing it again.

641
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: On the phone, I've got Graham cronin from Vortex. He's

642
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: up in Wisconsin. Graham, what's the weather like up there right.

643
00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 9: Now, Hey, Tyler, thanks for having me. Man, sure pretty consistent.

644
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 9: You know, the past couple of days here just kind

645
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 9: of kind of lingering between that like mid fifties to

646
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 9: low sixties. It looks like it's going to be that

647
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 9: way for a couple of days here now.

648
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: So that's that's what a lot of people are seeing

649
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: right now. I think across the country we kind of

650
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: have this like it's not a terrible weather, but it's

651
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: a stagnant weather pattern, and you know, it's kind of

652
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: made for a lot of tough hunting conditions. Is are

653
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: you seeing the same thing or do you're moving pretty

654
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: good around you?

655
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would say for the most part seeing the

656
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 9: same thing. Kind of that real stigment weather. It just

657
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 9: really doesn't have them doing too much where we've kind

658
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 9: of looked out. In the past week, we had a

659
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 9: couple of rain spells where it lasted for about two

660
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 9: to three days, and then hunting that break. I know

661
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Speaker 9: a lot of people that have had success and like

662
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Speaker 9: people seeing their cameras blow up with bucks hitting scraps.

663
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Speaker 9: So even though it is that stagnant, whether you know,

664
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Speaker 9: trying to find those different opportunities that are going to

665
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Speaker 9: get a move and so whether it's wind switches, you know,

666
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Speaker 9: looking for those rain conditions, I think you can still

667
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Speaker 9: beretty sucessful this time of year with.

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Speaker 2: That, even Yeah, what what would you focus on if

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Speaker 2: you had a rain shower one day? What would you

670
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Speaker 2: when you go out to hunt? What are you going

671
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Speaker 2: to look at hunting?

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Speaker 9: Oh, man, I would be this time of year. I'm

673
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Speaker 9: looking at oak flats and I am trying to find scrapes. Yeah,

674
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Speaker 9: if I can find a scrape that looks like it's

675
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Speaker 9: been worked, you know, in the past year or two,

676
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Speaker 9: you know, depending on what that rain looked like, find

677
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Speaker 9: one that looks like it's pretty fresh, because as soon

678
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Speaker 9: as that rain stops, I would expect the buck to

679
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Speaker 9: probably be freshen them that up.

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Speaker 3: So white oaks, red oaks, what are you looking at?

681
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Speaker 4: A lot of whites bund me this year. So I've

682
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 4: been hunting those primarily, gotcha.

683
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Speaker 2: So this is this is the kind of million dollar

684
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Speaker 2: question here for a lot of people who are talking

685
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Speaker 2: about white oaks. But have you found any way to

686
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: really focus in on this is why this oak tree

687
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: is the place to be as opposed to all the

688
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Speaker 2: other Maybe hundreds of oak trees in the woods, which

689
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: maybe it's not that way, but a lot of places

690
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 2: that have white oaks, you know, there's a bunch of them,

691
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Speaker 2: So how do you focus on one?

692
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean really it's for me.

693
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Speaker 9: I haven't found a specific reason of, you know, why

694
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 9: this tree is doing better.

695
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure there's a reason out there.

696
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Speaker 9: I'm not a tree guy, yeah, so I don't have

697
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 9: that answer, but I am a deer guy. So I'm

698
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 9: just looking for the deer sign around those trees. So

699
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 9: it's just trying to figure out, you know, where those

700
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Speaker 9: deer are, kind of where they're coming from, where they're

701
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 9: going to.

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Speaker 2: And then going off of that, would you say what

703
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: percentage of the acorns have fallen off of those of

704
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: those trees generally speaking right now?

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Speaker 4: Ooh, that'd be tough. I'd say probably majority of them.

706
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Speaker 9: There's still a lot lingering on, but I would say

707
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 9: probably in that sixty to seventy percent range.

708
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Speaker 2: So in the next week, would you change what you're

709
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: gonna do or would you still stay with you know,

710
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: scrapes on oak flats?

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00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 4: I would probably stick.

712
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 9: You know, it's in the next seven days, it's probably

713
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 9: it looks pretty much the same, you know, that kind

714
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 9: of fifties sixties degree temps, but just outside.

715
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 4: Of that range.

716
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Speaker 9: You know, we're looking you know that eighth day, we're

717
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 9: going to get another ring spell for a couple of days.

718
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 9: So I think it'd still be hitting that in the

719
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 9: strategy of you know, getting in there, finding those screeps

720
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 9: and hunting them because you know, even on cameras, you're

721
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 9: starting to see bucks freshening those up more and more frequently.

722
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you think that there is a definite increase

723
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: in testosterone happening right now the deer is starting to

724
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: to check and really get ready and ramp up towards

725
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: that rut. Or is it still a lot of night

726
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: movement or is that day is going to be some

727
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: day movement in there.

728
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean you're starting to just get on the

729
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 9: fringe of that day movement. I mean, you know, looking

730
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 9: at my small sample size of the cameras that I

731
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 9: got out, like within the past four or five days,

732
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 9: you're starting to see a lot of those two and a.

733
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 4: Half three and a half year old bucks start hitting

734
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: those screeps.

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Speaker 9: I mean I've had some that are definitely been in

736
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 9: legal light but still kind of like right on the fringe.

737
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 4: But yeah, I would.

738
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Speaker 9: Say it's probably not too long from now where you

739
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 9: see those big boys getting up and start moving a

740
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 9: lot more.

741
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Speaker 3: Too, gotcha.

742
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: So in the next week, in the next seven days

743
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: or maybe even eight, we'll cheat a little bit here,

744
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: are you I mean, are you thinking that the deer

745
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: movement or I guess let's just say, is the buck

746
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: movement going to increase or is it going to be

747
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: about the same?

748
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 9: I would say in the in the near future, it's

749
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 9: gonna be about the same, but kind of like hitting

750
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 9: that seven day mark, I'm going to see a big

751
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 9: increase just with the time of year. You know, we're

752
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 9: going into late October here, we're getting that ring spell

753
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 9: and you know they're starting to think about things.

754
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 4: So I would say it's definitely trending up.

755
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: So let's HiPE people up a little bit on the

756
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: seventh or eighth day. From this point on, on scale

757
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: of one to ten, what do you think the buck

758
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: movement is going to be like on that seventh or

759
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: eighth day, I'm.

760
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 9: Gonna put it at a strong just even from what

761
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 9: we saw with this last ring movement and just knowing

762
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 9: that you know, we're obviously getting closer to November. I'm

763
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 9: gonna put it like a six and a half seven.

764
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Speaker 9: I think you're gonna on a good movement.

765
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Speaker 3: Man, that's awesome.

766
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's exciting, you know, and things just get

767
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: better from this point on for a while. So, uh,

768
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: it's a good time to be in the woods. I

769
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: appreciate the information and the report, Graham from Wisconsin, and

770
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: hopefully thanks paying out for you. Like last year where

771
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: you said when you were on retfresh last year, I

772
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: think the day it dropped, you shot a buck, right.

773
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm really hoping that this happens again for me.

774
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 3: All Right.

775
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: We'll try to make it work for you. So just

776
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: let me know and I'll release this thing whenever the

777
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 2: weather's right for you.

778
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 4: Perfect. Yeah, if you can just plan accordingly, that'd.

779
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Speaker 3: Be creating perfect all right, Graham. I appreciate it, man.

780
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 5: He appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Ty to take care.

782
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Speaker 3: I hope that you've found all of that encouraging or

783
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 3: at least informative so that you can make the best

784
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: decisions this fall chasing big giant whitetail bucks and if

785
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Speaker 3: you want to get more detail about how to chase

786
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Speaker 3: big giant whitetail bucks, or the stories behind some of

787
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Speaker 3: the big giant whitetail bucks that say Tyler Jones may

788
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I only know up to six. I

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808
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Speaker 2: Also, Tony Peterson, you guys are familiar. He read an

814
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816
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817
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