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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We had some of our members of the

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Speaker 1: audience saying, what's Fritzie gonna do when it's two two

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Speaker 1: two two two? I didn't think that through complete in

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Speaker 1: twenty days, it'll be the same exact two across the

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Speaker 1: board of the day. What is what are your plans

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk on eggshells and not go into ladders,

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Speaker 1: avoid black hats, and be very careful. I'm one that

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Speaker 1: doesn't like all the numbers lines up like that. It's

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Speaker 1: not like, oh I got to play that lottery number

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Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, Fritzie came in, he goes, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's two to twenty two, and I was I and

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Speaker 1: I'm into numerology. I go, okay, what about when it's

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Speaker 1: two two two two less than three weeks from now,

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Speaker 1: it'll be the same exact thing. Not a special day,

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Speaker 1: I guess right. Let's bring on Mike Florio, Pro football

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Speaker 1: TONK Live co host Mike, I'm sorry for that. What's

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Speaker 1: he gonna do when it's two twenty two this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: That's one. You're twenty two two two, twenty two. His

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Speaker 1: head's going to explode. Thanks for joining us, walk us

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Speaker 1: through this being an attorney. What is the lawsuit about.

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Speaker 1: Let's start there. Well, the lawsuit is about specifically Brian

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Speaker 1: Flores being fired by the Dolphins when he believes he

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have been, and also not being hired by the Giants,

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Speaker 1: are being given a fair opportunity to compete for the

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Speaker 1: Giants job. More broadly, it is a referendum on the

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Speaker 1: NFL's decades long issue with racial bias in the hiring

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Speaker 1: of coaches, hiring of coaches, retention of coaches, compensation of coaches.

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Speaker 1: Black coaches obviously opportunities available for them as head coaches

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Speaker 1: than executives. Black executives not becoming general managers. Just the

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Speaker 1: failures that have been hiding in plain sight for years.

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Speaker 1: The fairs that brought about the Rooney Rule twenty years

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Speaker 1: ago is the threat of litigation, not actual litigation from

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Speaker 1: the late Johnny Cochrane Cyrus Mary that got the NFL

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Speaker 1: to adopt the Rooney Rule. Here we are, twenty years later,

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Speaker 1: thing that they never thought they would have to deal

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Speaker 1: with someone coming forward trading his career because as a

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Speaker 1: practical matter, he goes into this knowing the risk he's taking.

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Speaker 1: He's trading his career for the opportunity to be the

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Speaker 1: one who affects meaningful, permanent change for the NFL. Suing

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Speaker 1: the Broncos, the Giants, the NFL is that all Is

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Speaker 1: that separate or is it collective civil lawsuit? Well, the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins are part of it as well, and it's an

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Speaker 1: attack on the entire structure, the entire system. Now he

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Speaker 1: held to a different standard. He was held to a

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Speaker 1: higher standard. He was fired when he shouldn't have been.

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Speaker 1: He's regarded as the angry black man who must be

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Speaker 1: going to lead the team to victory. That's the perception

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Speaker 1: that maybe the reality. That's what the case will try

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Speaker 1: to prove. In Denver, he claims he had a sham

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Speaker 1: And in New York he contends that he had a

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Speaker 1: Brian Dayball before they even brought him in for the interview,

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Speaker 1: As evidenced, he believes by an accidental text message that

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Speaker 1: was sent by Bill Belichick, of all people, to Brian,

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Speaker 1: just Brian day Ball instead of Brian Flores. You know,

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Speaker 1: I still go back to the Dolphins if you know

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Speaker 1: he the Giants said that they hired the more qualified guy,

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Speaker 1: Brian Dable, and I go, how can you possibly say

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Speaker 1: that Flores has been a coach head coach in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He worked for an owner who wanted him to lose,

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Speaker 1: and he still won. How are you telling me Dabel

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Speaker 1: is more qualified? You know, that's a pretty good line

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Speaker 1: But you're right, Dan, Look, every time a coordinator becomes

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Speaker 1: that the coordinator who steps into a very different job

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Speaker 1: won't be able to do the job. But Brian Flores,

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Speaker 1: We've seen it, He's done it. He swapped the Patriots

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Speaker 1: He's more qualified than Brian Dabole from that perspective. But

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Speaker 1: get proper attention and scrutiny this idea that, and it's

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Speaker 1: an allegation I know, but that Stephen Ross offered Brian

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Speaker 1: aggressively investigate that, and if any of it is even

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you prove it, but to have,

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Speaker 1: He offered me one hundred thousand dollars. Did Flores collaborate

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Speaker 1: that story with his assistant coaches or anybody else? Is

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Speaker 1: there a paper trail there? I was told by a

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's hard to connect the

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Speaker 1: you to lose. Yeah, right, it's fixing games. Not for

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Speaker 1: the purposes of fixing games Tim Donahey's style. It's fixing

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Speaker 1: games with a broader street tg cobjective in mind. We're

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Speaker 1: going to take our lumps. We're gonna be bad all

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Speaker 1: going in. Let's just go ahead and be as bad

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Speaker 1: draft next year so I can finally get the next

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Speaker 1: Dan Marino for this team. That was the plan I

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Speaker 1: believe for Stephen Ross in twenty nineteen. And you know,

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Speaker 1: the difference doesn't matter. If you're trying to lose in

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Speaker 1: an environment where the NFL has partnerships with seven different

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Speaker 1: be trying to win every game, and this is going

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Speaker 1: to spark a broader conversation I believe about the connection

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Speaker 1: a way to take away the incentive to lose because

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Speaker 1: it's there. It's there, and teams have done it from

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Speaker 1: but the incentive is obvious to try to lose games.

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Speaker 1: Once you know you're not in the playoffs, you get

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Speaker 1: a better spot when it's time to pick the best

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Speaker 1: players the next year. I'm going to play something for you.

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Speaker 1: If you've ever wanted to hear what six hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: the Mavericks owner, and he admitted to the MAVs tanking.

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Speaker 1: But it's like, look, you know we all you know

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Speaker 1: the MAVs, once we were eliminated from the playoffs, we

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Speaker 1: did everything possible to lose games. And so if we

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Speaker 1: did it up front, if we knew that this was

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Speaker 1: then you know, you know, you kind of know what

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Speaker 1: kind of team you have, and if you could get

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Speaker 1: you know, your season thirty and ten and end up

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Speaker 1: with a boatload of ping pong balls. How did you tank?

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Speaker 1: How do you know? You're young players? Okay, that was it,

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Speaker 1: but there is is it? You send out a memo

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Speaker 1: particularly the young guys, because they have something to prove. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, Dorian Finney, Smith, Yogi Ferrell, there's nothing you

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Speaker 1: hard or try to lose this game. That wouldn't be right,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think any NBA team would ever do that.

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Speaker 1: But when you have Salo Mesri shooting threes, that's not

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Speaker 1: a good thing. Yeah, that cost him six hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: He violated the first rules. Tank club. Don't talk about

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Speaker 1: tank club, right, but the incentive is there and is

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Speaker 1: coach too? Well no, but but this is how it works.

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Speaker 1: You make the decision as the owner of the team.

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Speaker 1: You want to evaluate the young players. You want to

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Speaker 1: see how the third string quarterback does. I thought that's

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Speaker 1: They want two games. Though it doesn't always work out,

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Speaker 1: but the incentive is there. The system creates the incentive.

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Speaker 1: The draft. The way they do the draft creates the incentive.

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Speaker 1: And the NFL never wants to acknowledge the obvious connection

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Speaker 1: rising in the opportunity to get the potentially generational talent

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Speaker 1: that transforms your team. It's obvious, and you know, I've

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Speaker 1: There's no easy solution. The easy solutions to get rid

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Speaker 1: how much it's given up to look at what they

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Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen season. So there's a real benefit to it,

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Speaker 1: and they just need to remove the incentive. And this

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see whether they take it seriously and

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Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong. I never have hoped that I

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Speaker 1: I hope they take it seriously. My guess is they

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Speaker 1: can't because the ramifications are too significant. He's Mike Florio

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk Live co host. Why isn't there a

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Speaker 1: union for coaches in the NFL? Well, because coaches don't

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Speaker 1: coaches would never come together and create the union. It

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Speaker 1: also becomes complicated when you become a head coach because

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Speaker 1: become a head coach. But that's part of the problem.

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Speaker 1: It's part of the problem. Talk to John Payton about

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Speaker 1: bounty Gate and it becomes crystal clear the difference between

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Speaker 1: having a union which fought and beat back all of

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Speaker 1: the players suspensions and being a coach and having no rights.

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Speaker 1: The commissioner suspended you, well, I want to appeal it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you appeal it to the commissioner, appeal to NIED. See

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Speaker 1: you next year. Jim Harball, I don't think gets on

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Speaker 1: be the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings. What do

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Speaker 1: not sure why Eric bi Enemy is still waiting to

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Speaker 1: our buddy, Steve Pamelozolo, the co host of Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Focus NFL podcast. Now that Brady has announced his retirement,

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Speaker 1: how do you put his numbers into perspective here or

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Speaker 1: quantify them? Yeah, I mean we are Our data at

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Speaker 1: PF only goes back to two thousand and six, so

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Speaker 1: we missed the first few seasons of Brady's career. But

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Speaker 1: since two thousand and six, you know, we've graded every

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Speaker 1: player on every play in the NFL. He's the number

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Speaker 1: one graded quarterback during that time. He's number one in

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Speaker 1: our wins above Replacement metric by far. That's the same

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Speaker 1: metric he was number one this past year. He would

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Speaker 1: we had him as the most valuable player in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and I was actually I tweeted that out yesterday. Maybe

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Speaker 1: a little confusing the way I tweeted it, but he's

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Speaker 1: the most valuable player, you know, since the start of

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Speaker 1: two twenty one, since the start of twenty twenty, since

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Speaker 1: the start of twenty eighteen the Patrick Mahomes era. So

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Speaker 1: I think that's one way to quantify Brady's greatness. No

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Speaker 1: matter which year you pick, he's the most valuable player

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Speaker 1: since that point using our war metric, despite having Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes and Drew Brees and Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: and all the other great quarterbacks that have that have

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Speaker 1: come and gone are still around in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 1: So but why do you factor in on naming him

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Speaker 1: the MVP? Yeah, So for us, it's it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: evaluating every single play, right, So we go through each

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Speaker 1: play and if Brady makes a great throw and it's dropped,

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Speaker 1: we're going to give him credit for that properly, right,

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Speaker 1: So it's isolating his play from everyone else's. And when

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Speaker 1: you do that back to two thousand and six, he's

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Speaker 1: he's our highest graded, he's our most valuable. And then

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Speaker 1: in this particular season where I think Aaron Rodgers probably

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Speaker 1: ends up winning the MVP, we did have Brady graded

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Speaker 1: higher and more valuable because a lot of those hidden

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Speaker 1: plays went Brady's way, where Aaron Rodgers had a little

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Speaker 1: bit more luck in those in you know, in a

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Speaker 1: few other areas where Brady didn't particularly, say like interceptions.

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Speaker 1: Brady's best year and worst year. We're what, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: tough to argue with two thousand and seven as his

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Speaker 1: best year. I honestly think twenty sixteen was his best year.

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Speaker 1: You know, so he's coming off the de flate gate deal.

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Speaker 1: As far as throwing the football in pure PFF grade,

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Speaker 1: that was his best year from start to finish. They

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Speaker 1: end up winning the Super Bowl, of course, against the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: Worst year twenty thirteen twenty nineteen the two years where

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Speaker 1: I think if you look back at you know, the

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Speaker 1: weapons and what was happening in New England at that time,

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Speaker 1: it was also the two worst supporting cast that that

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Speaker 1: Brady's had. But I think to the twenty thirteen and

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen or the two years that stand out that

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Speaker 1: clearly we're not in line with the rest of Brady's career.

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Speaker 1: What quarterbacks are close to him in history, I mean,

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Speaker 1: just so just within the era, I think it's it

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Speaker 1: was pretty clear it was Brady, Peyton, Breeze and Rogers

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Speaker 1: as that elite tier. But it is fascinating that Brady's

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Speaker 1: even been able to, you know, separate himself from that group.

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Speaker 1: Of course, from a from a winning standpoint, you know,

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Speaker 1: he was always compared to Joe Montana, his idol. There

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Speaker 1: was a lot of elements to their game that was similar,

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Speaker 1: right that the underdog mental and always finding a way

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Speaker 1: to win, and all the Super Bowls and all that stuff. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think I think Brady clearly established himself

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Speaker 1: as the best quarterback of all time. But when you

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Speaker 1: go back and if you're even trying to debate, you're

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Speaker 1: looking at a Peyton Manning, a Joe Montana and then

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Speaker 1: within the era, you know, adding Rogers and Breeze to that.

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Speaker 1: I was also looking back at twenty nineteen, I think

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Speaker 1: he threw twenty four touchdown passes for New England. They

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Speaker 1: were moving on, he was moving on, Like, did New

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Speaker 1: England do the right thing statistically of moving on from

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Speaker 1: Brady looking at what he did that season. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a tough one because I don't think their roster was

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Speaker 1: just absolutely in shambles. They were coming off of three

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Speaker 1: horrible years drafting. You know, there's QB stats are mostly

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Speaker 1: driven by the QB, but very strongly driven by the

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Speaker 1: supporting cast as well by how many you know, good

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Speaker 1: receivers you have that get open. And obviously Brady benefited

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Speaker 1: a little bit from going to Tampa Bay with great

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Speaker 1: guys to throw too. But it's interesting because our numbers

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Speaker 1: weren't as bad as say the raw numbers, right, So

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Speaker 1: a lot of QB metrics had him twenty fifth or

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Speaker 1: twentieth in the league that particular year, we had him twelfth.

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Speaker 1: So we were saying, look, he's still playing way better

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Speaker 1: than the stats would show. So if you do put

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Speaker 1: him into a better situation, he could perform. And I

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Speaker 1: don't even think New England was equipped to build that

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Speaker 1: right situation for him in twenty twenty, given you know

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Speaker 1: their cap limitations and you know the fact that they

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Speaker 1: hadn't drafted well in a few years. How would you

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Speaker 1: quantify Stafford's years in Detroit? Like how good a quarterback

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Speaker 1: was he for a bad team? Yeah? I always described

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Speaker 1: Stafford as a guy if you watch him the right

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Speaker 1: three games, he looks incredible. I mean there's three games

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Speaker 1: a year right that he just looks unbelievable, and he's

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Speaker 1: like he's streaky too, he's feeling it. And you saw

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Speaker 1: this a little bit this year. He's no look passes

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Speaker 1: and he's just making incredible plays. But the consistency was

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Speaker 1: never there. My early prediction with him coming to the

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Speaker 1: Rams is that I think McVeigh would get the best

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Speaker 1: out of him, maybe have a career year. He's just

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Speaker 1: getting to that career year from a PFF grade standpoint.

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Speaker 1: He just just jumped over his career mark over these

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Speaker 1: last few games. But the production is through the roof.

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Speaker 1: So I think Stafford's always been a good quarterback. I've

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Speaker 1: always thought of him as the tenth or eleventh best

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Speaker 1: quarterback of his era here, which has been a pretty good,

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Speaker 1: you know era of quarterbacks, which is a good quarterback, right,

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Speaker 1: and again, if you put him in the right situation,

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Speaker 1: which apparently he is right now with the Rams, you

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Speaker 1: can get a lot of production out of him. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I ask you the same question I asked Carson Palmer.

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Speaker 1: You can have Matthew Stafford or Joe Burrow one game?

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, So one game is interesting because I

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Speaker 1: think Stafford's ceiling like that high end is incredible. I

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Speaker 1: do think Burrows a better quarterback overall, right, the youth

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Speaker 1: factor and what he's going to be going forward, the

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Speaker 1: one game element of it. Though Stafford can do some

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Speaker 1: special stuff, right, you also saw him throw to a

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Speaker 1: safety there, but Burrow made those. He had a couple

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Speaker 1: of bad decisions in the fourth quarter as well. So

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Speaker 1: one game it's closer. But overall, I'll take Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to overuse the it factor thing,

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Speaker 1: but but there's an element in this, right, going back

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Speaker 1: to Brady really quick, right, there are still Brady detractors

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Speaker 1: out there. There's a few of them right who were like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he had a bad game. Here, he had a bad game. There.

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Speaker 1: We just saw Patrick Mahomes have a bad game. Right,

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Speaker 1: There are bad games out there. But what made Brady

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Speaker 1: special is he always bounced back, whether within the game,

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Speaker 1: the next game, the next season. He always bounced back.

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Speaker 1: And I think Burrow has elements of that. Even when

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Speaker 1: things aren't going great, you have that feeling Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: is going to bounce back. So gimme Burrow, how would

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Speaker 1: you How did you grade Jimmy Garoppolo this year? It

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Speaker 1: was not his finest season. He started off horrible, he

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Speaker 1: was good. He had a finest season. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. The six games that he played with the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers after he came over was probably the

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Speaker 1: best stretch of play in his career. The funny thing

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Speaker 1: about twenty nineteen when they went to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: We said, I said, we had Brady twelfth that year.

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo was thirteenth in our grading that year. But he

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Speaker 1: had that Kyle Shanahan system, so the stats were really good,

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Speaker 1: plus the playmakers that they've had there. So Garoppolo has

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Speaker 1: been a top half of the NFL quarterback and I

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Speaker 1: think he was say Week seven through eighteen or whatever

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Speaker 1: during the regular season. But yeah, this playoff run was

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Speaker 1: not good. If it did coincide with his thumb injury,

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Speaker 1: it did look like he was having a trouble with

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Speaker 1: his accuracy. Maybe that was a factor, But Garoppolo was

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Speaker 1: a mid tier at best type of quarterback with high

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Speaker 1: end production in part because of that system. Who were

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Speaker 1: the worst quarterbacks grade wise this year? It was all

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Speaker 1: the rookies, you know, Zach Wilson really struggled, and Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence really struggled, justin fields came out of it a

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Speaker 1: little bit toward the end, but they were those were

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Speaker 1: the bottom end guys. Baker Mayfield was down there among

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Speaker 1: the worst starting quarterbacks in the NFL. So Mac Jones, no,

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Speaker 1: not Matt not all the rookies. Mac was good. Mac

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Speaker 1: was mid tier to high end as far as he

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Speaker 1: didn't have as much on his plate as far as

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Speaker 1: what the Patriots asked him to do in most games,

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Speaker 1: but he was accurate generally a good decision maker. Mac

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Speaker 1: Jones by far the best of the rookies, But the

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Speaker 1: other high end rookies, Trevor Lawrence Wilson, those guys struggled

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Speaker 1: a bit. Do you simulate the Super Bowl results at

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus? I haven't. We do have an analytics

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Speaker 1: team that works through that. I'm not sure what their

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Speaker 1: what their results are at the moment, but we do

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Speaker 1: have stuff we've worked on. Great to talk to you again, Steve,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. All right, thanks Dan, Steve

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Speaker 1: pounds Ala, co host of Pro Football Focus NFL podcast. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we thought it would be interesting just to talk to

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Speaker 1: him since they grade every single play and that I

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Speaker 1: don't think it was close for MVP that Brady was

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback this year and then walking away. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I kind of know the answer to this, but you

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Speaker 1: grew up your Jim Brown left football early, not early

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Speaker 1: nine season nine season he was the best player in

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Speaker 1: football still correct? Yeah, clearly? Yeah, Tom Brady's gonna leave

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Speaker 1: the football as maybe first or second for the MVP,

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Speaker 1: and according to the stats, the best quarterback in football.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of too many athletes who've left the

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Speaker 1: sport as the best. Barry Sanders was right there. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Barry's gonna join us in Los Angeles. But I thought

626
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Speaker 1: Barry when he retired, was still the best running back

627
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Speaker 1: in football. Calvin Johnson, you could make a case is

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Speaker 1: the best wide receiver in football when he retired. I

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Speaker 1: know we're missing leaving out some people, but just off

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Speaker 1: the top of my head, Hayton Manning wasn't Montana, wasn't

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Speaker 1: far wasn't. Yeah, you might have a case where Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers will be the best quarterback in football when he

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Speaker 1: decides to retire. Yeapa, When Michael Jordan left the Bulls

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Speaker 1: the second time, he was still right up there, scoring assists,

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Speaker 1: all the numbers. When you know, when Jerry Krout decided

636
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Speaker 1: to do the rebuild a year early, yeah, still right

637
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: there he was. But then he came back to play

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Speaker 1: for Washington. But when he thought he was retiring, then

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Speaker 1: at the time, he was still the best player in basketball.

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Speaker 1: Andrew luck had gotten up to a pretty high level

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Speaker 1: when he decided to walk away. I'm sure we're leaving

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Speaker 1: out a lot of people. Sandy Kofax was at an

643
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Speaker 1: extremely high level when he decided to retire. He may

644
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Speaker 1: have won twenty seven games that year, but his shoulder

645
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: or his arm was deterior rating beyond board. Borg was

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Speaker 1: twenty six when he retired, and I think he had

647
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Speaker 1: just won Wimbledon. Yeah, Paul, I'm looking at Sandy Kofax's numbers.

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Speaker 1: He retired at the age of thirty twenty seven and

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Speaker 1: nine with a one point seven three r A. Those

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Speaker 1: are both career bests, so he had the best season

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Speaker 1: of his career. He won both the Cy Young and

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Speaker 1: finished second in the MVP, and retired. He was clearly

653
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Speaker 1: the best pitcher in baseball and he had his best

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Speaker 1: season of his career. Let me get a couple of

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Speaker 1: phone calls. People have been on hold for a while,

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Speaker 1: Ryan and Iowa, Ryan, thanks for holding. What do you

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Speaker 1: have for us this morning? Hello, hod Dan, I've got

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Speaker 1: a stat of the day for Joe Burrow. Um. I

659
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Speaker 1: was wondering if I could do the classic music. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Marvin hit HiT's stat of the day music. What's the

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Speaker 1: classic one, just the one we always use, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: hard rock one. Oh okay, all right? And three two?

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Speaker 1: What got a stat of the day? Over there? Mark,

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Speaker 1: turn up the volume. Joe Burrow could become the third

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Speaker 1: quarterback on Super Bowl Sunday to win a national championship

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Speaker 1: and a Super Bowl in their career. The two other

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks to do that are Joe Namett and Joe Montana,

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Speaker 1: both also named Joe. All right, thank you, Ryan, that's

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Speaker 1: your stat of the day. Uh? Nick? And Virginia, Nick

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Speaker 1: spin On, Hold, what's on your mind today? Nick? Hey? Dan?

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Speaker 1: First time long time? Five nine, one seventy all right.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just calling you to say, pretty, it's nothing

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Speaker 1: to worry about with anything going bad, because it already

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Speaker 1: did in Virginia and Washington and Maryland with Danny Boy

675
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: finding a way to unify the fans against him with

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00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: a horrible day of putting out the Washington Commanders and

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Speaker 1: their wonderful new jerseys and making us look like the

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Speaker 1: AAF team that was the Commanders. And I don't know,

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Speaker 1: if we bring a Jimmy g it'll complete the trifecta

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Speaker 1: of disaster in Washington, and I may be looking for

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Speaker 1: a new team. So go Commies and thank you DP.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, it's Nick and Virginia. Daniel Snyder

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Speaker 1: did not have a bad day yesterday or today in

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Speaker 1: comparison to other people in the NFL. It didn't have

685
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Speaker 1: a bad day. You know, you rolled out the jerseys.

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Speaker 1: It feels like, you know, we say every year, well,

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Speaker 1: this is the year. This is the year. Daniel Snyder

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00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: asked to sell the team. All right, he just transfers

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Speaker 1: the team over to his wife. You know. They hired

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Speaker 1: minorities in the front office. Um, yeah, they got new

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Speaker 1: uniforms there. They hired a coach that people like, and

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Speaker 1: Ron Rivera. They dropped the nickname went Washington Football team.

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Speaker 1: All right. So the worst thing is I don't like

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Speaker 1: the jerseys and commanders. All right. If you're Daniel Snyder,

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Speaker 1: that's not a loss. That's that's not a bad day

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Speaker 1: for him. Let's put it that way. Uh, Jeff in La, Hi, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? What's hey? But hey, I

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Speaker 1: got something for you guys to get the seat And sorry,

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00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: I meant to get this out earlier to him. But

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Speaker 1: there is a destination he has to hit on the

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Speaker 1: way back from Vegas, to La, Okay, and it's the

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Speaker 1: only place he can get this in the world. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So there's another SoCal staple hides in and out called

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Speaker 1: del Taco. I'm sure Fritz, he's probably been there. Sorry, Fritz,

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Speaker 1: But so it originated in Barstow, California. Okay. So that

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Speaker 1: is literally the only place you can get Barstow style

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Speaker 1: del Taco. It is a staple after you've had a

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Speaker 1: couple of pops in Vegas the night before to stop

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Speaker 1: there on the way home, get Barstow style Del Taco

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Speaker 1: and then drive the west of the way back to Ocrla.

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Speaker 1: So right, I'll pass that on, Jeff, Thank you a

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Speaker 1: lot of food suggestions. Seton had I think he said

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Speaker 1: the best ribs he's ever had in his life in Memphis,

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Speaker 1: although I could understand that Memphis known for their ribs.

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Speaker 1: Now he's going to Houston. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: go back to back ribs, although they're they're different style ribs. Sure,

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Speaker 1: but sound like Seton was open to the opportunity of

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Speaker 1: going back to back ribs. Russ and Nevada joins us. Hi, Russ,

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Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey, Dan, just got a

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Speaker 1: little suggestion guys have been bantering around some names for

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00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, and there's lots of Joe's on that team,

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Speaker 1: So what about Joe time? Joe Time? All right, I'm

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Speaker 1: okay with that. I like the one that they had

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Speaker 1: Joe Burr. B r r r r r Joe Burr,

725
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Speaker 1: just calling Burr. What did we come up with? Oh,

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Speaker 1: Joe Hio. Yeah, We've got our T shirt Joe Hio.

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Speaker 1: I'm all right with that one. Uh. Kyle and Colorado, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Dan dan As one six foot a vigorous one sixty.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Hey, fritzee, I got a better poll question

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Speaker 1: for you here, man, Thank you. Four hour three. What

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Speaker 1: is the most impactful game fixing scandal in the history

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Speaker 1: of sports? Ay? The Boston College point saving scandal at

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Speaker 1: seventy eight, seventy nine, Pete Rose's betting scandal of eighty nine,

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Speaker 1: Tim Donahey's two thousand and seven betting scandal, or the

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Speaker 1: Stephen Rivas game fixing thanks back row, all right, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Con Well, we don't know about Steven Ross right now. Now.

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Speaker 1: It's allegend, you know, this is according to Brian Flores,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know that if Flores was going to

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Speaker 1: incentivize his head coach to lose games. That's going to

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Speaker 1: trump them all. Like Pete was betting, and Pete was

741
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Speaker 1: not a good gambler. And Pete admitted to me the

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Speaker 1: first time he ever admitted this, when I was at ESPN.

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Speaker 1: He said he bet on the Reds to win every game.

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Speaker 1: And people sided with Pete and go, oh, well, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's what you want. You want your manager to

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Speaker 1: bet on your team. Well, Pete could manipulate the lineup,

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Speaker 1: and you know he would. There were certain guys that

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Speaker 1: certain pitchers he didn't want to bet on, or he

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Speaker 1: wouldn't bet when there's certain pitchers who were going to

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Speaker 1: start for him. And then all of a sudden, you're

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Speaker 1: using a player. You might go to John Franco three

752
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: nights in a row because you have money bet. Let's

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00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: put it this way, Pete lost. So whatever he was doing,

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Speaker 1: if he was trying to put the best lineup out there,

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Speaker 1: he didn't do a good job because he lost money.

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Speaker 1: Not a good gambler. But you know, just because you

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00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: bet on your team to win, doesn't mean that you

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00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: can't manipulate the lineup. And what about the nights that

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Speaker 1: you're not betting on them to win. And if I'm

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Speaker 1: a bookie, Pete is not betting on his team tonight,

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00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you're going, hey, might want

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Speaker 1: to drop something on, you know, the Giants tonight against

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Speaker 1: the Reds. All you're looking for is any kind of

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00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 1: inside information. But if Stephen Ross was saying to his coach,

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Speaker 1: I need you to lose because I want to get

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Speaker 1: that quarterback in the draft. And if Brian Flora has

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00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: said to his assistant coaches, or maybe he confided in

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Speaker 1: somebody else, like what do I do here? My owner

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Speaker 1: wants me to lose. If this proves to be true,

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Speaker 1: you are it's not just tanking. You are fixing games.

771
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: You're fixing games. That's when you lose your team and

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00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: you know the repercussions that you could have. And now

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00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: you have the gambling aspect here. Boy, if I'm the commissioner,

774
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Speaker 1: I got to talk to Stephen Ross. Stephen, help me

775
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: help me understand this. I'm gonna ask you one time. Now.

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing is his source told me during

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Speaker 1: commercial break, commissioner works for the owners, not the other

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Speaker 1: way around. I said, Well, in a situation like this,

779
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Speaker 1: I would think as commissioner, I got to police the

780
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: whole sport for the other owners. Yeampo, but it would

781
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: be very hypocritical at the commissioner of the league ask

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00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: for players phones and records. They have an incident, they

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00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: I want your phone. Cool, same thing with the owner.

784
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 1: I want your phone. I want your emails to see

785
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: did anyone ever know about you guys losing games? Whatever?

786
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Speaker 1: A financial deal agreed upon. I said this at the

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Speaker 1: time when they was like, oh, you know, Brady won't

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Speaker 1: turn over his phone. I wouldn't turn over my phone,

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Speaker 1: not to the commissioner. I wouldn't do that. Hey, let

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00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: me see your phone. I'll give you my phone. How's

791
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: that little trades? These here, little quid pro quo? Is

792
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: he gonna ask Stephen Rons for his phone? I would

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Speaker 1: Billionaires don't give up their phones. Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us

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Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six

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00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,440
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Speaker 1: Live on the peacock act. He's the new Raiders head coach.

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, of course, many years as the Patriots offensive

802
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: coordinator and won six Super Bowls with that team. Nice hoodie.

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00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: You got there with your Raiders gear. What'd you do

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00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: with all your Patriot gear? We haven't done anything with

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00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: it yet. I haven't. I haven't. I haven't been back

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00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: home since I came out Thursday. And I'm sure we'll

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Speaker 1: find find good use for it. You in a hotel

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00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: out there in Vegas, Yeah, I am, but not on

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00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: the strip, not on the strip of a little off

810
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: the strip, a little bit in a little quieter place.

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Speaker 1: What was the conversation like with Coach Belichick when you

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00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: told him you were leaving. Yeah, that was you know,

813
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: that was a very important conversation for me and Bill

814
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: and I think have a deep respect for one another. Um.

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Speaker 1: I'm certainly grateful for all the time that I've spent

816
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: there and everything that he's done for me and my family. UM.

817
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: Not easy conversations to have. UM. You know, I knew

818
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: it would take a special place for me to leave

819
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: where I was at. UM, and I and I communicated

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00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: that with Bill. With mister Kraft h and again those

821
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: were those were emotional conversations. And rightfully so, We've spent

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Speaker 1: a lot of time together. They've done so much for

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Speaker 1: me in my career. Uh, and I'm super grateful for

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00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: the time that I spent there. Can you answer this

825
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: question honestly, did the Patriots try to trade for Derek

826
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Speaker 1: Carr last season? I know nothing about any of That's

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00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: the right answer, but just shows how much you love

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr. Yeah, yeah, Derek. Look, I I'm excited about this. Um,

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Speaker 1: Derek and I had a chance to talk the other day,

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00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: had a great conversation. I've competed against him a number

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Speaker 1: of times in his career. He's done a lot of

832
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: great things in this league, took this team to the playoffs. Uh,

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00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: you know, it was super competitive all year long, and

834
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Speaker 1: you know it's and now it's exciting to join forces

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Speaker 1: here and see what we can do to put the

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00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: best group around him. I love the nucleus there. I mean,

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00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: you got your quarterback, you got your running back, you

838
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: got your tight end. Um, I love Crosby. You know, yeah,

839
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Speaker 1: how close do you feel? You're in a very very

840
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: competitive division here? But yeah, no question, um, yeah, no, Look,

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00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: we have. We have good players and uh, you know,

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00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, every year there's change. Every year,

843
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: there's a roster construction that needs to take place, and UH,

844
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: this will be no different for us. UM. I'm excited

845
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Speaker 1: to partner with Dave Ziggler and in that process and

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00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: try to improve this football team in every way that

847
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: we can. But there's no doubt that they had a

848
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: they had a successful season. It didn't finish the way

849
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: uh that that anybody you know wants to finish, you

850
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: know how it happens for one of us out at

851
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: thirty two. But um, you know, getting to the postseason,

852
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, four guys in the Pro Bowl here coming

853
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: up this week. There's definitely some talented players on this

854
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: team that we're to get to know, uh, and we're

855
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: looking forward to that process. Best day you ever had

856
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: as a member the Patriots was what? Oh boy? UM,

857
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: my favorite My favorite memory was probably the fourteen Super

858
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: Bowl against Seattle. Um, you know, and we were fortunate,

859
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: so blessed to have so many great memories there. UM.

860
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: I think if if there was one particular day that

861
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: I might have enjoyed more than the rest, um, it

862
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: was it was the first time that we had actually

863
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl where I had where I had children,

864
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, my two oldest kids were at

865
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: the game and got to share in that celebration on

866
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: the field afterwards with my wife, my father. So um,

867
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: you know that was it was. It was a ten

868
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: year gap in terms of us being able to win

869
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: one of those and and to to realize that again

870
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: and and live through that with your family and your children.

871
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: It was pretty special. Yesterday was the anniversary of the

872
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler interception. I didn't know that. I didn't even

873
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: know that. That's pretty cool. I was at I was

874
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: at the goalpost because I'm okay, I'm handing out the

875
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: trophy right after the game, and I'm I'm thinking as

876
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: Russ goes back because I'm watching Marshawn Lynch, because I'm saying,

877
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch I had my phone out. I'm gonna

878
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: watch Marshawn Lynch go right in for a touchdown here,

879
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, he didn't get it.

880
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: Russ goes back and I go, oh, bleep. And then

881
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: I didn't know Malcolm had the interception. None of us did. Yeah,

882
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: I understood, I could I couldn't tell what happened. I

883
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: knew there was a big cheer, and from where we

884
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: were sitting, you know, we were over there on the

885
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: bench at the fifty yard line and it was kind

886
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: of like, you know, it's down here to the left

887
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 1: and you're not sure. Nobody had any idea what happened.

888
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: There was just a big roar, and then we were

889
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: grateful that Malcolm made that incredible play. He brought it

890
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: up two days after the Super Bowl when we had

891
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: him on and he said, Bill walked him through that

892
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: play Wednesday of Super Bowl week. Yep, yep. It happened

893
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: multiple times. Actually, um, I remember, you know, we practiced

894
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: those types of situations many times, and I think there

895
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: was a lot of guys because Seattle had used that

896
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: concept with multiple personnel groupings and formations and so on.

897
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: So there was a lot of our defensive players that

898
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: I think were prepped and ready for the type of

899
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: play that was. And we're just fortunate that Malcolm, you know,

900
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: made such a great play on the ball. What would

901
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: you have called in that situation? I don't know. That's

902
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: a great question, you know, because at hindsight's always twenty twenty,

903
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, and I think you what you would call

904
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: there is the play you had the most confidence in.

905
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: When I was in that similar situation in the Atlanta

906
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: super Bowl a couple of years later, we used our

907
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: two point plays, and so you know, you you practiced

908
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: those for those types of situations. You don't always have

909
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: to use a two point play. You know, on a

910
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: two point play you can use it at the one

911
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: or two yard line in a critical situation. And so, um,

912
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: that's what we had used in sixteen. Um, in a

913
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: similar scenario when we found ourselves in that spot. Did

914
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: you ever take it personally when Tom changed your play? No? Never, No,

915
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: he had Well I might, I might have thought mine

916
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 1: was better at times. But you know, we we we

917
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: we we we knew that he understood and had a

918
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: tremendous grasp on everything he did, and so whenever that happened,

919
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 1: he always had a good reason for doing so. If

920
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: I told you a month ago that Brady was going

921
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: to be retired, what would you have said, Um, I

922
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: would have been surprised, you know. Um, obviously he had

923
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: such a tremendous season this year, I mean statistically and otherwise,

924
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: and took his team to the postseason and had a

925
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: chance to make another run. Um, he's such a competitive guy.

926
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: And I've always felt like, you know, if Tom was

927
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: playing at a high level, which obviously he was this year,

928
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: that he would probably keep playing. I think we all

929
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, all of us that have been

930
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: around him and gotten to know him, know him so well,

931
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: probably assumed he would play until he just couldn't do

932
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: it anymore. And so when he I talked to him

933
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: the other night and uh, you know, heard the news,

934
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: it was it was kind of shocking, you know, and

935
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: such a such an important and you know, integral part

936
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: to the league's history, and especially the last twenty two

937
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: twenty three years here. I mean, he's he's kind of

938
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: been a mainstay in all those important conversations about who's

939
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: going to win the Super Bowl and what teams are

940
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: you know, really in it and all that. And you know,

941
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: we'll miss him, I'm sure we will as a league.

942
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: I'll miss him in terms of seeing him play as

943
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: a as a former coach of his, and look forward

944
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: to his next chapter. I'm sure it's going to be successful,

945
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: whatever he chooses to do. You were thirty two, I

946
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: think when you got the Broncos job. I think you're

947
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: now forty five. What's the difference between Josh McDaniels at

948
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: thirty two as a head coach and Josh McDaniels at

949
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: forty five. Yeah, I didn't think. I don't think I

950
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: had much wisdom then. You know, I knew a little football.

951
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: I've been around, you know, a good organization for eight

952
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: years and had learned some things about, you know, what

953
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: my job entailed there and tried to do it to

954
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: the best of my ability, but really learned a lot about,

955
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, the important parts to each area of the organization,

956
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: how much people need your support, need your impact on

957
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: a daily basis, and how much they value that in

958
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: their contribution and understanding how they fit into the bigger picture.

959
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: And I think I have a much different perspective on

960
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: things now. I have four kids, I've been a parent

961
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: for a lot longer now than I was then, and

962
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: I think I've just grown in so many ways from

963
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: the from that failure and tried to implement that in

964
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: the day to day process that I've used as a coach,

965
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, in the last ten to twelve years. So

966
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm thankful for the opportunity to try it again. All right,

967
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 1: help me understand this. The Raider's owner, Mark Davis, said

968
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: that you told him that Tom Brady fumbled on the

969
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: tuck rule play. I had to play the other side

970
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: of the fence. When I came here, I saw the

971
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: facility and I said the first thing I'm going to

972
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 1: say that it was a fumble, and so I felt

973
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: like I ingratiated myself to him pretty well right off

974
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: the bat. If you were still in New England and

975
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: you saw Mark Davis, probably wouldn't have been a fumble. Yeah. Probably.

976
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm part of Raider Nation now, so it was a fumble.

977
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: Ll congrats on this and we appreciate your time. Josh,

978
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: thank you, thanks a lot, Nan, I appreciate it. That's

979
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels. He is the new head coach of your

980
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders. Yeah. We always wonder what coaches do

981
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: when they take another job and they got all that gear,

982
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: Like you just have a yard sale. Shouldn't the NFL

983
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: do yard sales? Oh? Yeah, for charity. Yes, it's always

984
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: about the kids that you just send all you like

985
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 1: Sean Payton sends. By the way, Sean Payton sent his visor.

986
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: We have it in the studio this was game used.

987
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 1: That's his last New Orleans Saints visor, the last visor,

988
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: last advisor tonight on the NFL network, the last advisor.

989
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: The Sean Payton story. Yeah he sent it in, autographed

990
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: it and uh a man of his word, Yeah, Paul,

991
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: But Josh McDaniel probably holds onto his Patriot gear just

992
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: in case after Wow, well the cult thing. Wow too

993
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: soon he's off the air now, Yeah, it's a shot. Well,

994
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean I think he's set for the Raiders. Yeah,

995
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: if he threw all his cults. Now. I was told

996
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: that they tried to trade for Derek Carr. Wow. Yeah

997
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: in New England. That's why he's like, I don't know

998
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: anything about that. Now you're out of the you're out

999
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 1: of the building. You already acknowledged that the tuck rule

1000
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: was a fumble. Can't burn bill though, Hey, Josh McDaniel

1001
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: said on the Dan Patrick Show, you guys tried to

1002
00:54:55,080 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: trade for Derek Carr, coach. I'm onto season everything else?

1003
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: Any other questions? Uh, you upset that Tom didn't acknowledge

1004
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: the Patriots onto preseason? Here a good stuff. Uh, let

1005
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: me see Kyle in Pittsburgh, joins us. Kyle, good job

1006
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 1: getting Josh McDaniels on there. Fritzie, Hey, Kyle, Hey, how

1007
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 1: are you doing good? Klem just wondering if the MVP

1008
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: for the NFL balloting is complete? Yes? If not? Oh, okay,

1009
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: I was just wondering if Brady's retirement would have an

1010
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: effect on how people would vote. No, it's a regular

1011
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: season award, Kyle, Thanks for the phone call, But maybe

1012
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: it wouldn't if you were well, who would be the MVP?

1013
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: Because I can say Joe Burrow certainly might have a

1014
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: strong case. You go from four wins and you're going

1015
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. If he would win the super Bowl,

1016
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: if the vote was Monday morning, would Joe Burrow be

1017
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: the MVP if the Bengals won. Probably so. But that's

1018
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: why you have an MVP for the super Bowl, and

1019
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: that's why you have a regular season MVP. Yes, Marvin, Oh, no,

1020
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything. I just agree with you completely. Oh.

1021
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: I didn't have anything to say. I didn't. Oh, I

1022
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: think I was raising the roof. I wasn't raising my hand. Oh.

1023
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: Fritzie is in charge of not saying anything. Oh, come on,

1024
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: what say you give a compliment? And four seconds later

1025
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: they got to take a show, Marvin is stealing your bit,

1026
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: like getting on the air and not saying anything. That's why.

1027
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: That's what makes PAULI. He can handle those situations. Even

1028
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: if you thought he was raising his hand. He always

1029
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: has something yes in his pocket to say. He'll never

1030
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: say I didn't raise my hand. I don't know why

1031
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: you're calling on. You always have something to say always

1032
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily help the show, and it kind of

1033
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: puts you in when I go to you and you're like,

1034
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what question. I got all kinds of

1035
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: other stuff going on, not necessary. Ton in Ohio going

1036
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 1: to the peri of doctors later. Thanks good, it's Todd

1037
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: in Ohio. Hi, ton A dph. You took my call. Yeah,

1038
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: what's on? You hold me from Calvert by the way,

1039
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: you stole me. Oh. I've been a Blissener for about

1040
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: a year now. And um so I'm in the shower

1041
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: the other day and I'm singing, uh, Stand of the

1042
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: Day jingle just came out, and my wife says, what

1043
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: the hell of Stand of the Day? And I was like, hey,

1044
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: you know what, Scram, mind your business. I'm in the

1045
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: shower here, Scram. She's in trouble she's in trouble. Oh,

1046
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: let me hear, let me hear out Sun and Touch

1047
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: of the Day, st of the Day, Pop. I like it.

1048
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: I like that she's in trouble. She's gonna make a

1049
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: run at Jimmy g Man. She she nicknamed him something else.

1050
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: I won't say, no air but Jimmy Gee. You kind

1051
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: of get my flow there. But uh, I'm you know anyway, Well,

1052
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: thank you, Ton, thank you, falling in Ella, luc at

1053
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: the end, Yeah, and luc and Turn three, Yeah, singing Sat.

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Speaker 1: You can listen to Colin and this show. You know,

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Speaker 1: like we're not at the same time, we're not competitors,

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Speaker 1: Nathan and Los Angeles. Hi, Nate, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan, It's good to talk to you again. So

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Speaker 1: my question is, does the NFL have a provision or

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Speaker 1: what is the nature of their provision to force Stephen

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Speaker 1: Ross out if it comes to that, i'llow what the

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Speaker 1: NBA was able to do as Sterling and what Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball was able to do with March shot years ago.

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Speaker 1: What would it do they have a provision like that

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Speaker 1: and what would it take in order to invoke such

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Speaker 1: a thing? Probably? Thank you, Nate. Probably lead the owners

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Speaker 1: would vote, and you know, because the commissioner works for

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Speaker 1: the owners. But I would think in a situation like this,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that the commissioner has that kind of autonomy,

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Speaker 1: But I would think if the owners or you have

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Speaker 1: a group of owners who make all the decisions, you know,

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Speaker 1: it might go to something like that. You got it, palling. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Section eight point one three of the NFL's Constitution and

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Speaker 1: by laws, the Commissioner can determine if an owner of

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Speaker 1: a team has been guilty of conduct detrimental to the

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Speaker 1: welfare the league or professional football as a whole. Based

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Speaker 1: off that determination, the commissioner can issue find censures, draft picks, whatever,

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Speaker 1: or in extreme cases, could push for a vote of

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Speaker 1: the other owners to force that owner to sell. The

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Speaker 1: commissioners vote, which he would oversee the executive committee would

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Speaker 1: they would need a three quarters vote of the owners

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Speaker 1: or the executive committee, depending on how they look at it. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it would come down to a vote, and you'd

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Speaker 1: have to have seventy five of the owners. But look,

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Speaker 1: that's a long way away, a long way away. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you know. This part of the story

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Speaker 1: with Brian Flores gets to trial becomes part of it.

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Speaker 1: It feels like it's separate, even though he's suing the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: I guess wrongful termination here, the fact that you wanted

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Speaker 1: me to lose. I won games and you fired me.

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Speaker 1: And then you add the one hundred thousand dollars allegedly

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Speaker 1: that you're paying me to lose. Oh Man, the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and the gift that keeps on giving