1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: What's good everybody. Jay Skeets of the Nodunk's podcast got 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: something special for you today. Twenty years ago to the 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: day we're talking. January eleventh, two thousand and six, I 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: sat down at a dining room table in an East 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Toronto apartment with Tasmelis and JD to try and record 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: a basketball podcast. We didn't know what we were doing, 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: we didn't know what would become of the podcast. We 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: just pressed record and started talking hoops. Well, we have 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: that show for you today. Now. Again, this was a 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: pilot episode. It never saw the light of day. In fact, 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be until the following week on January eighteenth, 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: where we would premiere episode zero zero one of the 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: Basketball Jones to the world. So in a way, this 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: demo episode is some sort of weird MBA media history, 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna warn you it's horrible. It is a mess. 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: It's a little rough around the edges. I can barely talk. 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm nervous as hell. There's a phone that starts ringing 18 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: at one point. JD doesn't have a goddamn mic when 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: we're recording this. But it'll give you a sense of 20 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: just how far we've come in the last twenty years. 21 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: And the truth is, I think anything twenty years old 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: is worth celebrating. So we're gonna have a few more 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: fun surprises plan for you a little later this month. 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: But for now, let's take you back to the start 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: after the break, the first ever recording of the Basketball 26 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: Jones podcast. Enjoy. 27 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: If you're listening to The Basketball Jones with j E. 28 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: Skeets and Tax if you'd like to have your say, 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: then give us a call on the Jones line flour 30 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: one six five one nine, floor seven seven eight or 31 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: email us at Jones at the Jones dot net. And 32 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: now here are your hosts, Jay Skeiths and Task. 33 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: Melas Wednesday, January eleventh, two thousand and six. It is 34 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: the Basketball Joe. Oh yeah, we're here, episode zero point one. 35 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skeets alongside. 36 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: Me Task Mels in the house here. 37 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy that plays in the pain puts his 38 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: heart on his sleeve, and I will be your floor general. 39 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: There you go, past first, past second, shoot, third, I'm 40 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: Jay Skats and with our producer here, Jason Doyle. All right, 41 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: there he is. Yeah, we are the Basketball Jones our 42 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: first show, and U I guess we're gonna try to 43 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: keep you up to date in the past of the 44 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: past week in the NBA, just everything about the NBA. 45 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: And we're gonna do that through a couple of sections 46 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: and a couple of segments. Actually, we're gonna look back, uh, 47 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: look back this week over the week that was. We're 48 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: gonna take a look at who is hot being Uh, 49 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: well the nets have been pretty hot lately. We're gonna 50 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: talk about the jazz out West. We're gonna get into 51 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of run our Test trade rumors Run 52 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: our Test will never go away, and uh. 53 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: He shouldn't go away. 54 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: No, he's too fun. He's characters like that, and uh, 55 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into that about you know, possibly going 56 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: to Golden State, a couple other places. We're gonna you know, 57 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: it might get at the Pistons talk can they do 58 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: seventy wins? Do you want? Do you want to say? 59 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: Now? 60 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: Hold it? 61 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: You know, hold it. We're gonna hold it, hold it. 62 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: We're gonna suspense. 63 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: We'll take a look at injuries. It's a part of 64 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: the game task. You had some injuries on the on 65 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: the slopes the other day. 66 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: I believe I'm still pretty batter than Bruce. 67 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're on the day to day. 68 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: I am a gamer. 69 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: Okay, good, and uh you know we'll get into raps talk. 70 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the the wraps. They started the week 71 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: great and uh sort of end of the week bad, 72 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: but you know bad. We'll get yes too long us 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: this is bad? Is it not? 74 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: It wasn't bad to me at all? 75 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: Okay, and uh, well you have another little segment we're 76 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: gonna try it out called a crunch time and uh, 77 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: you know we have a bit of a rapid fire 78 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: I guess pt I like discussion. We'll have Jason showed 79 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: out some topics and we'll see, uh what you think, 80 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: what I think, and we'll argue and fight and stuff 81 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: like that. 82 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'll scrap it up. 83 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: Okay, good and uh then we'll get we'll get to 84 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: you anyway. We got lots coming up. This is the 85 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: Basketball Jones if you wanna, if you want to get 86 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: in touch with us, we'd love to hear from you. 87 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: Hit us up four one six, five, one nine, four 88 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: seven seven eight. 89 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: Or email Jones at the Basketball Jones dot Net. 90 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: That's right, so we'll get into it. Uh right after 91 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: a quick break in the. 92 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: It's quick it's it's quicker than a break. We'll just 93 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 3: get this baby rolling. 94 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 1: Let's do it. This is the Basketball Jones, the bast. 95 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 3: We are here live and direct. 96 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: Live, not so much live, but no, this is a podcast. 97 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: Wherever you are, it's live. We're gonna talk about this 98 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: last week in basketball because this is uh's my favorite sport. 99 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: I just can't help. 100 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: That's a good thing to do with a podcast about it. Well, 101 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: we got to start off with this past week. But 102 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: the two I guess the two hotts teams definitely the 103 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: hottest team in the East and the hots team in 104 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: the West being the Nets and the Jazz respectively. What 105 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: are you I mean, what are your thoughts on h 106 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: on those Nets? First? 107 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, because because although they're hot, they really don't 108 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: impress me. They do and they don't because Vince is 109 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: obviously going off and even a couple of other ones 110 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: without r J. But it's really whenever Vince decides to play, 111 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 3: do they do they light it on fire? Because I 112 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: mean because he you know, he's off and on and 113 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: and earlier on in the year wasn't playing that well. 114 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: And that's where about a five hundred team weren't that injured, 115 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: really didn't have any problems. But you know, it was 116 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: the same team as last year, it's the same team 117 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: as now, but it's just Vince decigdning to go off. Yeah, 118 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: so I really have you know, being a Toronto fan 119 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: living in Toronto, I have a problem with Vince and 120 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: I have a problem with him not playing a full 121 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: capacity at all times. And that's the way it seems 122 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 3: it's going at times. 123 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: I have to agree with you there. It's it's a 124 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: it's a Vince Carter of old and it's and exactly 125 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: when they win, it's because he's putting up big numbers. Ye. 126 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: And the reason he's putting up big numbers is because 127 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: he's taking it to the hole. I think he's averaging 128 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: something like thirteen free throw attempts a game. He's not 129 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: settling for the jumper, the lazy Toronto jumper. Yeah, as 130 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: he fell into he's driving to the hole. And I 131 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: mean with Kid as the point, one of the best 132 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: point guards still in the league, one of the best 133 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: point guards ever. 134 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: It wasn't been amazing though, He's just he's just a 135 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: spectacular player, like an amazing player at times. Mind boggling. 136 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: The amount of skill he's got on the floor and 137 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: then at times, I mean, it's it's rare. Now it's 138 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: it's rare that we're seeing it right now. But earlier 139 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: on in the year he was just you know, it's 140 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 3: just lack days the old Vince. 141 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he he definitely he can disappear in games, that's right, 142 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: and that's why he's always been knocked about a little bit, 143 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: been knocked about. Is he a you know, quote leader. 144 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: But he's not. 145 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: You don't think he is. 146 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: No, there's no way he is. He's not. He's not. 147 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: He he he will not ever get in anyone's face. 148 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: He will not lead a team. He will not put 149 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: them on their back. He never did in Toronto and 150 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: he never will. It's just his nature. He likes the game. 151 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: He doesn't love the game. 152 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: Vince Carter never put a team on his back. 153 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: He'll put them back. He'll put him on their back 154 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: for seconds. 155 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: Scoring fifty the whole playoff series. Practically, it wasn't the 156 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: whole playoffs series. He's matching Night on Night off. It 157 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: was a night on Night off. Hey, he he went 158 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: off for a playoff series, they won the series or 159 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: not that serious. The series before he was he was 160 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: crapped the first couple of games, but. 161 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: He won't. He wouldn't do it up for a whole 162 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: playoff run. It's just it's just Vince. He had great, 163 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: great supporting cast there. Okay, he had Oak, he had 164 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: he had older players that could help out, that would 165 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: right the ship. And he's just he's he's a primary slash. 166 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: He's superstar, but he's not a leader. 167 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: That's right. 168 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: Okay, that's it. But the Nets eleven eleven in a 169 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: row there before losing the other night. They're leading the 170 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: Titanic Division Atlantic horrible. Yeah, well it's getting at least 171 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: the Raptors are getting better anyway. You like the Nets though? 172 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: You put money on the Nets? 173 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: Well, I had a good bed. I mean I kind 174 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: of put one over on a buddy of mine. They 175 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 3: I just put money on them that they had to 176 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: finish top six in the Eastern Conference as well as 177 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: win the division. 178 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: Well you're looking good right now. 179 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, jeez. 180 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: Okay, quickly jumping over to the West, going back three 181 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: hours here, what what's your take on the Jazz and 182 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: why they've been so successful as of late, I think 183 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: winning eight of last nine or something. 184 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a big. I'm a big team guy, and 185 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: that's why I love the Jazz because no superstars at 186 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: Carolinko and Memo occur is their second biggest guy. Yeah, 187 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: it's just a total, total team game. Reminds me of 188 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: the Knicks and how they're doing well out East, as 189 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: well as the Pistons and why they've been such a 190 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: great team. 191 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: No superstars, just great coaching, just a. 192 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: Jerry Sloan type team yet like Larry Brown, just getting 193 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: the most out of their players. And then I find 194 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 3: it really fun to watch, although it's not doesn't get 195 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: great ratings, like on Christmas Day the Pistons Spurs, which 196 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: is the same type of game, got horrible ratings as 197 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: well as the NBA Finals. Yeah, but it's great team, 198 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: fundamental basketball, and that's why they're winning. 199 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: It's interesting. You don't think you don't see Andre Carolinko 200 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: as a superstar. Oh yes, and no, I mean here's 201 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: a he's a human stat sheet. 202 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like. 203 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: Sean Mary in that way. I think he had the 204 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: most ridiculous line the other night. If you saw it, 205 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: fourteen ten, seven blocks, six steals, like a quintruple double. 206 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: I don't even think it's humanly possible. You don't see 207 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: him as a superstar though. 208 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: He's never done it over a long period of time, 209 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: I guess, and that's you know, he's got to do 210 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: it over a full season without getting hurt to really 211 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: call him a superstar. He's a great player in the league, 212 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 3: no doubt about it. Fun to watch, but yeah, you 213 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: can't get superstar status until you've done it over a 214 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: period of time. You've done it over here, you're a 215 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: you're an all star. And he just doesn't have all 216 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 3: those all those feats. 217 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: Fair enough. Switching it up to mister ron Ron crazy 218 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: ron our test. The trade rumors are everywhere. Mark Stein's 219 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: bringing out every team. I think the Raptors are going 220 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: to get him. 221 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: Matt Bonner straight. 222 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: Up, I wouldn't do it. You don't give up that 223 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: three point shooting and a big man, Are you crazy? No? 224 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: But the teams right now, I guess the teams that 225 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: everyone's are talking about where you know the possibilities are 226 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: lie of the the Pacers organization shipping them would be 227 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: uh would be Golden State one, and the Clippers too, 228 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: definitely out west. What are you? What are your thoughts 229 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: on I'll give you one here, I'll give you two 230 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: Golden State deals. All right, one our test for dun Levy. 231 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: And I believe the guy's name is pe Truce or 232 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: Michael Michel. He's a rookie, I believe. What's your thoughts on. 233 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: The second year guy? I think, yeah, he's a saw 234 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: him playing the uh saw more actually in the the 235 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: euro Basketball Championships playing for France with Tony Parker. 236 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: So do you do it then? 237 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: Oh? I do it in a heartbeat. I don't. I 238 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: don't even think twice if I'm if I'm Golden State. Oh, 239 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: I do it in a heartbeat. We're on our test. 240 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: We forget that we're on our test. Is such a 241 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: good player like he he'll make an impact on both 242 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: ends of the floor. He'll be he can be a 243 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: motivational leader. He's not a raw, raw guy, but he 244 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: will definitely bring people's games up. He's just he is 245 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: all hard and effort. You know, you have to find 246 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: the right fit for him. He was he was really 247 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: you know, he was definitely a cancer. 248 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: He makes an end on both ends of the floor. 249 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: He makes a he makes an impact in the whole 250 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: arena when he's jumping into the stands and you want 251 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: someone like that him being a superstar or not around 252 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: especially Golden State, a fairly young team, and do you 253 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: want them turning to someone like roun our Test, who 254 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: has always so far in his career, been great on 255 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: the floor, but proven he doesn't really give a crap 256 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: about his teammates, especially what he's done in the Indiana 257 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: organization after they stood by him after the brawl yep, 258 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: and then then just literally turn his back on them. 259 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: I agree with you. I agree with you to a point. 260 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: I think if you're going State, you have to take 261 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 3: a chance. And they haven't had a winning team in 262 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: a real long time. You need some toughness on that team. 263 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: You've got. You've got extremely talented players in Jay Rich 264 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: and Baron Davis, even Troy Murphy 're like the yogu, 265 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: but you need you need some sort of toughness to 266 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 3: your team. You need to be you need to get hard. 267 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: You need to be able to go through a season 268 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: and go through the droughts of January and February games 269 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 3: and just have somebody to take you through the tough times. 270 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: And I think 'ron our Test can be that guy. 271 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 3: He can light a fighter under guy's butts and and 272 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: he'll get them there. 273 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, Chris mollon took a chance on Baron Davis 274 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: last year, so yeah, we'll see it again. What do 275 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: you think about the Clippers possibility right now? The talks 276 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: are mcghetti for our tests right up, but it sounds 277 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: of it. 278 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: I like it even more than the Golden State situation. 279 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: Actually they have for the Clippers. For the Clippers, they have. 280 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: I guess for the Pacers too. I mean, that's a that's. 281 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 3: A that's a decent part. Corey mcgetty is a decent part. 282 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: I think we've got a call who were right off 283 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: the hook? Sorry, I don't know. 284 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: I'm not a big Corey mcgetty fan. I'll never like him. 285 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: He's he's totally totally one way player, and I just 286 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: you know, if we're talking run our test here, all right, 287 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: we're talking run our test. You want to put you 288 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 3: want to shut somebody down in a playoff series, you 289 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: put run our test on him. You want you want 290 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: an extra bucket in a playoff series, give the ball 291 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: to run our test. You know we're talking about Corey 292 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: mcgetty here. Yeah, he can score. 293 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: You want a rap album produced. Yeah, you get our test. 294 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the wraps coming up soon. Let's see 295 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: you need some water and really worked up over on 296 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: our tests there, it really works. 297 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: I'll take I'll take run our tests for half half 298 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 3: of the superstars in the NBA. Give them training garden 299 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 3: for our test. I'll take it. 300 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, I'm just kidding. All right, Well we'll get 301 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna get into the raps talk here. 302 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: We'll talk about Mike James bitch. 303 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh and the week that was for the 304 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: Raptors right after the. 305 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 3: Right so oh my denast. 306 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: Bottle. 307 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: So yeah once again. 308 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: Uh, you're listening to the Basketball Jones Podcast on on 309 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: the Basketball Jones dot Net on Jay Skeetz with my 310 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: man Task Mellis and Jason Doyle, producer Superstar. Well, we 311 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: live in Toronto. We are in Toronto right now. Beautiful city. 312 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: Not much well we're getting a bit of crime, but 313 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, great city. And uh, since we're here, we 314 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: got to talk about our hometown team. We are season 315 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: ticket holders, tasks and so let's get into a little 316 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: raps talk. Let's quickly look at the week that was 317 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: for the raps hot Hot there for a while was 318 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: it six wins No. Five and five in row, five 319 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: in a row last week, we I guess, I think 320 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: we had the Hawks, the Magic and the Rockets. So 321 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: not three teams, not three of the greatest teams in 322 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: the league by any stretch of the imagination, but good wins, 323 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: and those are the those are the wins the Raps 324 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: gotta get. 325 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: No doubt about it. And this upcoming stretch, it's the 326 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: same same type of games. I think thirteen or the 327 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: fifteen or sub five. 328 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: Hundred gotta take, gotta take good ten of those. 329 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've been playing in their five December, they've 330 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: ten and eight since they were or ten and nine 331 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: I think now since they were started the season one 332 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: and fifteen. So things are looking up. 333 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: Things are the ways are on the up and up. 334 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: But they weren't on the up and up. They went 335 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: a little bit down. We took two steps forward one 336 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: step back. I guess you don't think so with the 337 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: Nets and then the. 338 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 3: Bulls, we're gonna say, yeah, yeah, the Bulls. The Bulls 339 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: loss was a little bit of a it was a 340 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: little bit of a downtime. But but the way I 341 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: look at it is they were hot like fire, they 342 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: lost to a New Jersey Nets team that is one 343 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: of the oddest team in the league. 344 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: Some people are calling one of the best games of 345 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: the league. 346 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: So, yeah, you're one of the best game of the season. 347 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: Damn right, it was. It was a great game. And 348 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: I left I left my TV that day cursing myself 349 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: because I didn't pick that game in our in our 350 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: annual draft, but extremely happy. The way they've been playing 351 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: is just awesome. That was a that was a great game. 352 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: There was some things that that made me upset, some 353 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: of the decisions by Sam Mitchell in that game, but 354 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 3: it was just a great game. And then and then 355 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: the next night, you expected them to have a little 356 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: bit of a fallback, right. 357 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: And and against the team that's always on the well 358 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: for a long time, has owned the Raptors. That's they're 359 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: eleventh straight win in a row of the Chicago Bulls. Yeah, 360 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: and we have It's a tough matchup. 361 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 3: They are always been a tough matchup because they're big inside, 362 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: big inside. 363 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: They've got the big bodies with Sweetney and uh and 364 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: even yeah even though and then but then they they've 365 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: got the three point gunners, yeah, Shooter and Gordon and 366 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: he potter. 367 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 3: So they've been playing well and they've been expected a loss. No, 368 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: well I expected, yeah, you know, they're they're definitely tired. 369 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: Bosh was was was exhausted after after the Nets game 370 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 3: was a long with James and James had a horrible 371 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: shooting night in Chicago. But what what I really liked 372 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: about is they fought back in Chicago. They were down 373 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 3: twenty three, they're down twenty three, down twenty three, and 374 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 3: the third came back within two in the fourth quarter. 375 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: It was a fight. It was a real good battle. 376 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: It doesn't look like Raptors teams. 377 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: Of old Okay, okay, so I like it. 378 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 3: They're flowing, they've got the low all right, good. 379 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: They gotta and you're right, they got a lot of 380 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: winnable games coming up, so it'll be interesting to see 381 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: how they do. One player team. 382 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: They are. They're a young, young, happening, motivated team right. 383 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: The ticket all I'm not, I'm not. Well you you 384 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: must be excited then about Mike James, the way he's 385 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: been playing. He was Eastern Conference Player of the Week 386 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: last week after the after the off the Raps winning 387 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: streak there. 388 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 3: What do you think do you think that because What 389 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: worries me is that this is a contract here. Do 390 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 3: you think he's coming out to play because this is 391 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 3: his contract year right now? 392 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: For all Raptor fans, that's literally the million dollar question. 393 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: You're babcock. You this was your this was your deal 394 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: of your entirety so far as a as the GM 395 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: of the Raptors trading James for Austin. So what do 396 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: you do? Do you do you keep James? Do you 397 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: pay him his money and he's gonna he's gonna, you know, 398 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: get a lot of offers the way he's playing, he's bawling. 399 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: Or do you try to trade him, especially for the 400 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: trading deadline which is quickly approaching. 401 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 3: That's a real, real tough question. I sort of sit 402 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 3: on the fence on this one because I don't know 403 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 3: who you're gonna pair him up with in the back court. 404 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 3: He's a scorer at will right, is he a shooting 405 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 3: guard or is he a one? Are you gonna start 406 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: him at the one? And who are you gonna put 407 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 3: with him? Because if he's a he's a small point 408 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 3: guard or a small shooting guard, I should say, but 409 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 3: he really likes the ball in his hands. I don't 410 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 3: think he likes coming off the ball. He wants the 411 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 3: ball in his hands. If you can have a shooting guard, 412 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 3: a real solid defending shooting guard, then I think you 413 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: resign him. But if you have, if you have Calderon 414 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 3: and Mike James is planning your future in the back 415 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 3: court for the next four or five years, I don't 416 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 3: like it at all. 417 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: To be honest, I think they should sign him, And 418 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: I agree with you. 419 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 3: You don't. 420 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: You don't want to look at Calderon and James as 421 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: your starting backcourt for the next four years. But I 422 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: think what the Raptors need to do is look at 423 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: James as an incredible guy off the bench, can play 424 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: both the one and two. Have Caldrons your starting point guard. 425 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: Bring over you when you Kitch comes over, have those 426 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: two guys. Well, if you Kuitch comes over. But we 427 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: need some veterans. We're gonna need some veterans. Eventually. We 428 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: got to stop rebuilding and looking for draft picks. 429 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 3: And he only he's thirty one and it's your prime. Yeah, 430 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 3: I mean, in point guards after thirty do tend to 431 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: go downhill. 432 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: But he's I mean, he's showing that he can straight 433 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: up ball and he can put the ball in the basket, 434 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: although he is a streaky shooter. 435 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: The only wordy is is he's doing this because of 436 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 3: his contratractor or is he doing this because finally a 437 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 3: city is showing him some love and giving him some 438 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: starting minutes. 439 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: That's what I like to believe. Let's keep Mike James 440 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: a raptor what that guy? 441 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: That guy's some player. Put the ball in his hands. 442 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: He will get the job done. 443 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: So how much quickly? How much would you give him? 444 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: He's making three and a half this year. I expect 445 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 3: Phil Duffy, who he just signed his agent to one 446 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: between five and. 447 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: Six sounds right, give him five? 448 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 3: Five for how long? 449 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: Four years? 450 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 3: Four years? 451 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: Well yeah, all right, Well that's that's the corner I 452 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: guess for this week. But uh, we'll get into a 453 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: little more fun segment here, I guess a little. We're 454 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: gonna start arguing crunch time coming up right after the break. 455 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: It's the basketball Jones, Hey, the. 456 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: Safe straight for long pound Nigga. My last album was 457 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: The Running. 458 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: They want to know if he still got it, they 459 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: say raps change. 460 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: They want to know how I feel a body laying. 461 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: Doctor Dray is the name hard my head. At my gag, 462 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: Still puffing my lead, still fuck up the beats, still 463 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: not loving. 464 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: Police, Still rock my cats with a cuff in the creed, 465 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 3: Still got love for the streets. Wrapping two one three, 466 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 3: Steel the beach Fang, Still. 467 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: Doing my thing since I left Banks, too much change, 468 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: I've rapped. 469 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: The satan for the gangs is all across the steel, 470 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 3: him and st taking myself to perfect the bitch. 471 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: And I'm still a got up for the streets. It's 472 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: the see Wednesday, January eleven, two thousand and six. We 473 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: are the Basketball Jones at the Basketball Jones dot Net. 474 00:21:55,080 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skeets along with That's right. Well, we talked 475 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: about we looked back on the week that was in 476 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: the NBA. We took a look at the wraps, and 477 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: uh now we're gonna do a little, I guess, a 478 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: little fun, a little more lighthearted segment here called what 479 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna call crunch Time. Basically gonna work like this 480 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: Ja our producer here is gonna got fire out some subjects. 481 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: We're gonna have one minute. All right, that's it. 482 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 3: Task one minute? You like to talk? One minute? 483 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so one minute? 484 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: Make it quick here and what are you trying to 485 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: say here. 486 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, give me my thirties. 487 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: Gary your thirty seconds. Don't hog, don't hug the clock. Yeah, okay, yeah, 488 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 3: don't hug the ball on the floor. I won't hog 489 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: the time on the clock. 490 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: Pass first point car. All right, so let's get it going. 491 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: We got a couple here, Jay, what are you starting 492 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: us off with? Stop? Yeah, we'll get a sound effect. 493 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: A ready? 494 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kobe or Lebron? Kobe or Lebron? Easy, Lebron. 495 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 3: I think I think Kobe's more proven. Right now, if 496 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 3: I want to play, I take Kobe. 497 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: You're kidding me right now? 498 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: I want a guy on the floor. You want a 499 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: shot right now? This playoff. If I want a guy 500 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 3: who's gonna make a shot, I take Kobe Bryant. 501 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: You want to take it? Look, you want a guy 502 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: who's gonna take forty forty five, maybe fifty shots? Hey, 503 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: then don't go ahead and ta Kobe. I want a 504 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: guy I want Magic Johnson? You want I don't you 505 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: want Rex Chapman? Gunner? Rex Chapman. 506 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: If I was playing with Smush Parker and Devin George, 507 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 3: I'd take all the shots as well. Who's Lebron playing 508 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 3: with Lebron's playing with z Danielle Marshall, Damon Jones, who 509 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 3: can hit a shot. 510 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: Damon Jones can't hit a shot, and he's been it's 511 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: been proven because Larry Larry uses out and now now 512 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: people are guarding him and he can't. 513 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: You can't tell me. His surrounding his lineup is len 514 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant. 515 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: Just he just turned twenty one. T this guy is 516 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: the future and he's gonna be. 517 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 3: Are we talking about the future. We're talking about now. 518 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 3: I don't care. I take Kobe Bryant, Give Kobe Bryan 519 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 3: a sporting cast. He will do special things this year. 520 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: Look at the guy forty five and four straight. It's 521 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 3: alright ready. 522 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, top free agent? Easy, tough question, Big Ben Wallace, 523 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: that is my You know what, if you. 524 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 3: Want to talk youth, you want to talk to somebody 525 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: who's going to make an impact in the future. You 526 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 3: take Al Harrington this offseason. 527 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: You're kidding me. 528 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 3: No, I'm not kidding you. He is not He is 529 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: so much boy, so much untapped potential. Ben Wallace, Hey, 530 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: it's not a bad player. He is a very very 531 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 3: good player. 532 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: Ben Wallace is an All Star all defensive machine. He's 533 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: not a human. Ben Wallace is not human. 534 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 3: It's all downhill from here. It's not he doesn't have 535 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: that much. He doesn't have that much more lifespan. Jeez, 536 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 537 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: He's got definitely a couple he's got for four or 538 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: five six years left in him of the of being 539 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: the best defensive forward slash center in the league, hands down. 540 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: Al Al Harrington as a more is definitely as a 541 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 3: possibility to have more impact on a team. 542 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Ben was going to get, he should. 543 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: Get, He's should get the money. Jeeze, I do talk 544 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 3: a lot, right James, bitch. 545 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: Mike James. But we already talked on that. So pay 546 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: or trade. I say, pay, pay the man his money. 547 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: He is balling out of his head. As someone once 548 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: said on ESPN Chat, I read Paul Williamson and oh 549 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: my god, you gotta pay this guy that money? What 550 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: five mil? Six mil? Four years? 551 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 3: I'm loving it. Are you going to have another ray 552 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 3: for contract? There? Do you want to point? I shoot 553 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: first point guard in Mike James. 554 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: He's not a point guard. He's not a point guard. 555 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: He's even said it. That's what I like, he says, 556 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: I am not a point guard. 557 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 3: But he wants the ball in his hands. 558 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: Everybody, Well, sure he does, because he's a score. 559 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's not gonna play off the ball. He 560 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 3: doesn't like playing off the ball. He said that as well, 561 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 3: he doesn't want to be a two. 562 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree, he wants the ball in his hands. 563 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: He's a point guard. 564 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: Well he can, I mean he can play the point. Okay, 565 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: he can score and play the point. Get thirteen the 566 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: other night, just but you don't just to get thirteen 567 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: assists in this. 568 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 3: But look at his game. Look at his game. He 569 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 3: can score at will when he's a streaky hot, streaky shooter. 570 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 3: But you look at some of the rapt look at 571 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 3: some of the Raptors possessions, and they they use twenty 572 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 3: four seconds on that shot like games, and they get 573 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 3: a poor week shot off at the end because the 574 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: balls in his hands. 575 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: Ready, Yeah, last. 576 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: One Pistons seventy wins. That's a tough question. 577 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: No freaking way, Why I don't I don't see it. 578 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: They're twenty seven and five now, right, so that's not 579 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: on pace at all. They were playing ridiculous basketball to 580 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: begin this season now, and not that they have not 581 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: that teams haven't done this before, but now teams are 582 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: bringing it every night against them. The Jazz are taking 583 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: them even even I believe it was New Orleans last night. 584 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: They hung in that game for the entire you know, 585 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: the one thing I'll give the Pistons is that they 586 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: can end games. They they let teams hang around for 587 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: three quarters and then they fin for They're like the 588 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: Spurs that way. 589 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's seventy. 590 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: Come on, this is not Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Phil 591 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: Jackson teams here. 592 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: The only reason why I think they can do it 593 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 3: is because they have a team of guys who never 594 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: ever quit, and it's more about it's more about the pride, 595 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 3: the pride level and playing the game for playing the 596 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 3: game as opposed to stats with those guys. So, if anything, 597 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 3: if those guys, those guys have a lot to play 598 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: for it, that's the only reason I think they may 599 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: do it. 600 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: It's a stretch, all right, fair, all right, that was 601 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: crunch time and it was shit. I'm sweating, and you 602 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: just keep talking. You do want to keep talking about 603 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: the three topics goal? 604 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, Mike James will never even just kidding. 605 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: Just you're listening to the Basketball Jones. I'm Jay Skeets 606 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: that SaaS Mellie will be right back after a quick 607 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: quick break. 608 00:27:49,040 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 3: Power bodydom. 609 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: And oh god if this place that we car dog 610 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: cloud off. 611 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 3: And they shine now rivers sho now river. 612 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: So he's single and she's down about man. He see 613 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: his name on the market. She will never look up 614 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: its dead. What's a good is leave? 615 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 3: She's doing two little yes and bridges where the warm 616 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: chest trds. 617 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: Time time to take about. They shot now till the 618 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: ver mirror mars. 619 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 3: Shine now over. 620 00:28:52,840 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: So you're listening to the Basketball Jones podcast at the 621 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: Basketball Jones dot Net. I'm Jay Skeats. This is tast 622 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: Mellus and now it's time for. 623 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: It's coming quite special segment. This is for Ozzie friends 624 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: down south. 625 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: Oh right. I guess the Brits too, We Brits. 626 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: The other Brits like it. 627 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: This is for John Amcchi. 628 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: He's a baller. 629 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,239 Speaker 1: You gonna pay him. 630 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: I wouldn't trade him for. 631 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: You wouldn't know he had some girth, didn't he? Yeah too? 632 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 3: Bet he never made anything of himself. I thought he'd 633 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: be good in Orlando. 634 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: John Emichi the way Pat Burke took a spot. Yeah. 635 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: Here it is Ladies and Gentleman the Week, all right, 636 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: Blanker the Week. Basically, we're gonna take someone from the 637 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: past week and we're gonna appoint them with the Wanker 638 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: of the week. Tess, who is this week's wanka. 639 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 3: I think you can call this guy Wanka of the 640 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 3: season so far, mister Paja Stojakovic out out in Sacramento. 641 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: I just have enough of that guy. If you want 642 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 3: to talk about who could have taken his free agent 643 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: value to another level. Paje Stoyakovic is a free agent 644 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 3: this year and it's just been horrible. Yeah, he's been 645 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: in and out of the lineup. But that's one guy 646 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: I don't sign because he's a wanker, because he doesn't 647 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: play hard. He's not a team guy, total stats guy, 648 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: all about himself, not a winner in my opinion. I 649 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 3: just had an I just had enough page. I don't 650 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: want to hear about him. If they trained for Ronar test. 651 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 3: If you could get Ronar test for Paja, that is 652 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 3: a steal there. 653 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: It is Peja Stojakovic. You are our first annual Wanka. 654 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: Do you enjoyed that? I agree definitely. I hate him. 655 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 3: Not a player. 656 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: You just crushed a lot. What nothing, Well, we're wrapping 657 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: it up. 658 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 3: I mean, this was a show. You liked it. 659 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: It's getting late for you. Well that was forst show 660 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: and uh. You have been listening to The Basketball Jones 661 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: on net. As always, we want to hear your feedback though, 662 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: so you can call us believe it or not, we'll 663 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: put it on the air. 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