1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, and welcome to this episode of the Let's 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Be Real Podcast. This week we have Ashley and Jared 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: for The Bachelor. We talk about a lot. We talk 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: about the season of The Bachelor, the process of coming together, 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: behind the scenes of what you normally see, and they 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: schooled me on what movies I should watch. So make 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: sure you listen and I cannot wait to hear your feedback. 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for coming on my podcast. 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: We have a lot to talk about today. Okay, I 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: want to talk about The Bachelor first because it's very 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: relevant right now, and I have a few questions and 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: a few theories that I want to run buy you Okay, 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: go for it. Okay, who do you think is going 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: to win? Madison? Chris Harrison. Harrison always wins. He is 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: the winner of all these Bachelor's seasons. You want to 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: know why because he comes in, he works approximately four 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: minutes an episode rough flee, tells everybody that it's about 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: to be the final rows, and then when they leave, 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: says sorry, say your goodbyes. That's the true winner of 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: every Bachelor season. But let's not say that Christophers doesn't 21 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: work hard. He work very hard behind the scenes too, 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: and he needs to be very talented, especially during live shows. Okay, 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: So I have a conspiracy theory because on my for 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: you page, a girl saw Peter in Auburn, Alabama yesterday, 25 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: which is where Madison is from. Yeah, we heard. I 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: heard this online rumor that Maddie and Peter were seen 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: together this week. Yeah, it's some game something like that. 28 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know literally, as it's an online rumor. 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: As Harris says on The Women Tell All that even 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: Peter doesn't know how Peter's season is gonna end. Yet 31 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: he probably doesn't all these false rumors with the He 32 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: could be with the producer, he could be with Julie 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like it. Sometimes I feel like that, honestly, 34 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: could he be with Hannah Brown? No, that's the one 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: she got off of The Bachelor, and she turned it down. 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: And she didn't turn it down because she was with 37 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: Peter because production would have known not to ask her. 38 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: Because with Peter. You guys have been in this The 39 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: Bachelor nation, like you've understood and you've been on the show, 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: and you know what's emphasized for TV and what's the 41 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: reality of things. So I'm curious what is just show 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: and what do they dramatize and how much of it 43 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: is actually real and accurate? I mean a lot of 44 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: it is very everything is real. Yeah, I can't think 45 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: of anything that's fake. I mean there are fake people, yeah, sure, 46 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: But in terms of like producers creating a storyline and 47 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: having cast just go with the story even though that's 48 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: not how they actually feel or what they want to do, 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. But sure, yeah, of course, Like actually said, 50 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: there's people like go onto this show with ulterior motives 51 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: and an idea of what they want accomplished. And there 52 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: are people uh just like it will go and do 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: anything that they think is going to make them look good. Yeah, 54 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: they'll say things they don't mean because they know make 55 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: a splash. But ultimately, the majority of the people that 56 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: go on this show are going on the show for 57 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: the experience and doing exactly what we did, which was uh, 58 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: just trying to figure out how best to navigate yourself 59 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: going through this weird, crazy, experimental show, and then of 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: course afterwards with getting thrown into the public and and 61 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: having them judge you and and and talk about you, 62 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: and um so I think the majority of people are 63 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: just kind of very normal in that aspect. How do 64 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: you think it differs from when you guys were on 65 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise, How do you think the show has changed? 66 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: And would you come on now in this time where 67 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: social media is more present than ever? Um, we were 68 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: at a wedding this weekend for JJ Lane, who was 69 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: on our season, was on Caitlin season of The Bachelorette, 70 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: and we had this joke with Kris Pukowski, who was 71 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: I guess also kind of like of our generation, and 72 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: he was like, I call our age the golden age 73 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: of the Bachelor. It was the time where people signed 74 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: up having not known the financial benefits of being on 75 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: the show, actually because there was no financial benefits back then. 76 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: When we signed up, there was truly like you were 77 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: on TV for a season, and before Paradise there wasn't 78 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: another season you could really be on and um, your 79 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: time was over once you got off the show. So, 80 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, the most we thought we would get out 81 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: of it is well, there was the chance of ending 82 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: up with somebody in the very end, although that very slim. Um. 83 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 1: And then there was just like self growth, making friends, traveling. 84 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: We didn't know like these crazy opportunities that would be 85 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: coming our way. Yeah, I mean I would still do 86 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: it today too, they asked me. I think it was 87 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: my mindset would and have changed, um because at the time, 88 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: the reason I said yes to the show is because 89 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: I knew I would have always regretted it if I 90 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: said no. It's just so much more pop culture e 91 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: Now it's crazy. You know, there's all these fantasy leagues 92 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: and it's Bachelor's so ingrained in our pop culture now, 93 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: I think it's more so than I've ever seen it before. 94 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: It just gets bigger and bigger. I'm always so fascinated 95 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: by that. Like, what is that environment like when you 96 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: guys for either side you're surrounded by a bunch of 97 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: people I'm not talking about in Paradise, but the bachelor 98 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: of the bacherette, and you're kind of competing to be 99 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: with someone. What is that environment like with the other contestants. 100 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you just have to compartmentalize um 101 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: or do your best to do so. You have to 102 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: understand what you signed up for that it is at 103 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: the end of the day TV show that you were 104 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: surrounded by producers and cameras that are trying to make 105 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: an entertainment product, and so I think a lot of 106 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: guys just forget that. A lot of at least on 107 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: my season, there are a lot of guys that would 108 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: get mad at producers when they said, hey, you know 109 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: you can't see her right now. They're like, well, I 110 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: want to talk to her right now, and it's like, 111 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: well you can't. And then they were like, well this 112 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: this is ridiculous, Like you're telling me what I can 113 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: or cannot do. And in my head, I was like, 114 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: what did you think was going to happen? Did you 115 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: think that you're gonna come on Bachelorette and just do 116 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: whatever the hell you want to do talk to her 117 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: whenever you wanted to talk to her? Are you insane? 118 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: And so that's great. I just never understood that that 119 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: would struss me out, Like being in that kind of 120 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: environment the entire time, and Bachelor in Paradise it's just 121 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: kind of like you go for who you want and 122 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: all of that. Bachelor Pardus is a little bit more 123 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: like free willing. You have a little bit more independence. 124 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: You're not on camera like all the time you are, 125 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: and you aren't like you don't have a big camera 126 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: in front of your face all the time. Um, but 127 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: it's just as stressful. It's actually I found it to 128 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: be far more stressful because you can never just relax. 129 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: You always have like a threat about to come in. Like, 130 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: even if you make it through this week and the 131 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: person that you want chooses to do that week, like 132 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: you never know who's going to walk down the stairs 133 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: and steal them away. Yeah, well you you said, Um, 134 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: I think in an interview that you're like, you were 135 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: a character of yourself on Bachelom Paradise, a caricature because 136 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: they you were kind of made out to be the 137 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: crying virgin. But I mean I was a crying virgin, 138 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: but like that's what they that's what they emphasized you as, 139 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: and that's how you were somewhat known for that. So 140 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: when that became what you were known for, were you 141 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: shocked how much that show emphasized that and did you 142 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: expect that kind of reaction from the public. Um. I 143 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: think it's always kind of fascinating to me that the 144 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: show just is constantly seemingly thinking that virgins are some 145 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: unique unicorns. Yeah, that you don't like to find that often, 146 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: like they emphasis it's like you've had a virgin on 147 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: for like every season in the past five seasons, Like 148 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: obviously it's not that unique, so like, just get over 149 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: concentrating so much on that. And I actually feel like 150 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: this season with Madison's it's such like a moral thing 151 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: with her, it's a religious thing that it's coming up now, 152 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: But it doesn't seem like something they've been fascinated with 153 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: over the past couple of weeks, you know. When that 154 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: happened with your season, I found it really interesting because, like, 155 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like high school in that way. 156 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people focus on the peer 157 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: pressures of what you should and shouldn't do, So like, 158 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: how how did you get through high school and college? 159 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: Like that? Because I'm a junior in high school and 160 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: it's it's a constant subject and I don't think it 161 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: should be, So how did you do it? I didn't 162 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: become really comfortable talking about it until I was on 163 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: The Bachelor, so I don't really know. I mean, high school, 164 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: like most of my friends are virgins in high school. 165 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: Most most of my friends didn't didn't have sex until 166 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: they were in like mid college years. But I know 167 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: that's probably like way above the national average or whatever. 168 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: But I just never elt pressure in that case. And 169 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: the Jonas brothers, you know, they were, they're great road 170 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: balls at the time we earrings. Yeah, so I'm like, 171 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm not alone like those guys in my same boat. 172 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: I know, you like signed up for it technically, but 173 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: is it weird having like the entire world like know 174 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: your love life and know who you're dating or if 175 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: you got rejected or if you're rejecting someone, Like, is 176 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: it weird having the entire world know so much about 177 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: you when you don't know anything about them. No, it's 178 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: very normal. I don't even know. I know you're being sarcastic, 179 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: but it really never faced me, really, yeah, I mean 180 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: I've always just liked attention. It never faced me in 181 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: the moment, you know, when we were down filming, you 182 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: just try to, you know, stick to your gut and 183 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: hopefully make the right decision. But of course afterwards, when 184 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: it started airing, I would think about it a lot 185 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: more because then everybody else started chiming in with their 186 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: perspective on what I should or should not have done. 187 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: The Passion in Paradise. Just watching it, it's like an 188 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: emotional roller coaster. So I cannot imagine being a part 189 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: of it. So when I know actually said it was 190 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: love at first sight when you saw Jared, When Jared 191 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: did you realize, you're like, oh, like I got to 192 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: get her out of the friend zone. According to his vows, 193 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: it was also at first sight. I know, I know beauty. Yeah, 194 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean I think when I first saw actually there 195 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: was definitely a connection there that I was struck by. Um, 196 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: but I'm also as actually knows a very stubborn and 197 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: um uh adamant person to stick into my ways, and 198 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: so you know, I think that was a big deterrent. 199 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: But uh, and then our love just grew over time, 200 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: uh you know, as we were becoming closer and closer friends. 201 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: So it's really hard to pinpoint, but of course I 202 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: would say when I first saw it was a good 203 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: place to start. And I think, honestly, which is why 204 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: a lot of bachelor uh couples fail is because you know, 205 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: you leave this show and you get thrown at so 206 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: many opportunities and like that's your brand, right, You're you're 207 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: branded as as a couple, and so I think a 208 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: lot of people just spend so much time together and 209 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: they don't develop a strong enough foundation. So at times 210 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, it just becomes so top heavy that at 211 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: certain points and just crumbles. I think Actuley and I 212 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: became very lucky in hindsight, um that we developed such 213 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: a strong friendship beforehand that we really know how to 214 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: handle each other. She knows how to handle me better 215 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: than anybody in this world, and I think I have 216 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: a pretty good idea of how to approach ashually in 217 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: certain times of attention or sadness. So if there is 218 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: another Bachelor show where bachelor couples had to come on, 219 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: what do you do? We say that that they should 220 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: do this all the time. I don't know how they 221 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: haven't done it yet. It's really bizarre, especially with all 222 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: the spin offs that they're doing. To have this coming summer, 223 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: the Summer Games and Bachelor in Paradise and have them 224 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: both be for singles is like kind of mind boggling, 225 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: and like shows like some sort of like I don't know, 226 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: sounds bad, like a lack of creativity, especially when their 227 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: bachelor couples are the ones with the big followings and 228 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: that people always want to have updates on. If you 229 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: end up doing a number of shows and you keep 230 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: ending up single, like people do, kind of lose interest. Okay, 231 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: So if there was a show, what do we think 232 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: would happen? Would it be like couples doing things that 233 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: would test their relationship? I think that the strength, So 234 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: what kind of I don't think I think that would be. 235 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that would be tasteful And that would 236 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: be like a little bit. It isn't like called like 237 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: tempt isn't temptation island like that. I wouldn't like that. 238 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: I think it should be like an amazing race thing 239 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: where it's like the couples together show their strengths in 240 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: like how they work together as a team to accomplish mission. 241 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: You should pitch it. I would watch that. We've been 242 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: down that road before. We did a digital series called 243 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: What Now with us Tanner, Jade, and Nick, which was 244 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of a look into the world after 245 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: reality TV, and um, we're very proud of it. And 246 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a very interesting concept because I mean 247 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: from the number of times that people just ask us, 248 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: you know, what's life after the show? And you know 249 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: Instagram and you're what we do for a living now? Um, 250 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty interesting. So you guys do, like 251 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: you said, you guys work from home, and you do 252 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: social media and you do other partnerships. Um, I'm always 253 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: curious in like the behind the scenes of things. What 254 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: is that process like to kind of develop yourself as 255 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: an influencer and create a brand around social media. The 256 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: people that follow Ashley and I are following us because 257 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: they either liked Ashley or they liked me, or they 258 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: like us together. It's an extension of what they saw 259 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: on the show. So I think it's really hard for 260 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: us to pinpoint, you know, I mean, what people want 261 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: to see from us is more us. I know that 262 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: sounds very self indulgent, but it's true. It's true. If 263 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: I post about things that I that I'm passionate about, 264 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, people don't really care as much. But then 265 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: I post a video of Ashley farting, and people lose 266 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: their minds. People loved it last week. It was like 267 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: it very lucky. I can post that stuff all the time, 268 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: you know. But I think it's also because they follow us. 269 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: It's probably a lot of people who are in relationships 270 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: who are invested in our relationship that you know, they relate, right, 271 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: they relate to our relationships. So they see Ashley farting, 272 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: They're like Oh my god, I fart too. Yea, you 273 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: ask a question that truly like we ask ourselves sometimes 274 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: because we don't even know what people want to see, 275 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: and we throw things out there and it's always a 276 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: test to see what works and what doesn't work. Apparently 277 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: parting does work, but it's really authenticity. The more you show, um, 278 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: the more content that is relatable that you put out there, 279 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: the more you're gonna see feedback, positive feedback. Do you 280 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: think you would be where you are now if it 281 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: weren't for your experience on the Bachelor and making to 282 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: each other? No, I'm s no, not at all. Um. 283 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: I have no idea what I'd be doing, to be honest. 284 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean I graduated from Syracuse to my masters before 285 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: the year before being on the show, and I would 286 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: be doing something in media, but I don't know if 287 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: it would be on the camera, behind the camera, in 288 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: social media, no idea. Jared would probably be still working 289 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: in the restaurant industry. Um. Yeah, I mean the Bachelor 290 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: gave us a platform, um, and so that's what really 291 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: started at all for us was that platform, and then 292 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: everything just started snowballing. Do you guys have any like 293 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: hobbies that people don't know about. That would possibly be 294 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: another career for you or just you doing your free time. Um, 295 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, that'd be a possibly another good career. 296 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: Jared just like he loves playing sports as much as 297 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: he can. Yeah, he part He's just joined a new 298 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: just recreation. Yeah, it is fun. I haven't played in 299 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: a long time and I missed playing. Um so I 300 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: just signed up for Lead by myself and it's been 301 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: fun to play. Me some friends, meet some friends. So 302 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: I love playing sports. It's my probably my biggest hobby. 303 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: And if I were to consider it a hobby, like, 304 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm just really into food. Um, I really like cooking. 305 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: Um we use our fresh possa maker every week, and 306 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: it sounds I mean like that's as much of a 307 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: hobby as I can. Yeah, I mean like I love 308 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: beauty stuff. I love skin care. And if I were 309 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: to go yeah, if I were to go back and 310 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: do it again and not be on the show, I 311 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: mean I love media as well, but um, I would 312 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: definitely wonder which path that would take, whether it be 313 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: media or whether it would be der dermo you know, wow, dermatology, 314 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: or whether it be dermatology. Yeah, it's it's that kind 315 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: of day. It's a Monday. I have this partnership with 316 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 1: dermal Logica, and I was like, I can't get the 317 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: word dermatology in my head and get the word dermal 318 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: logica out of it. It's another hobby of Yeah, it's like, 319 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: is that is movies and TV hobby? I don't think so. 320 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm very into it. I mean, like a movie critic. Yeah, 321 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean I feel like I know a lot about 322 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: the film industry. UM, Like a goal of mine would 323 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: be to make a movie, so which I'm actively working on. UM. 324 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I definitely I think that would be 325 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: described as a hobby to what is your favorite top 326 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: three movies for both of you? And I'm looking for 327 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: new TV shows, so if you have any recommendations. So 328 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: I was actually just thinking about that, not tvent movies 329 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: my my favorite movies because uh, it fluctuates. UM. But 330 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: I always say The Social Network is my favorite movie, 331 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: and I think at the end of the day, it 332 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: probably is because it's a movie that I could watch 333 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: two forty seven times straight and still not get tired of. UM. 334 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: And I think it's very specific. Yes, I think it's 335 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: just a masterpiece in filmmaking. And then probably my top three, 336 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: as random as this is going to be, and it's 337 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: obviously my own opinion, but my favorite three movies or 338 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: Social Network, the Superman, the movie with Christopher Reef, and 339 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: then The Matrix because I think The Matrix again, uh, 340 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: might be one of the greatest films ever made. And 341 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: I'm definitely dating myself. Were you what you were? You 342 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: born two thousand two, But don't hate me. I've never 343 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: seen any of those movies, but I'm going to tonight. 344 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: I promise you you were and you can watch. Yeah, 345 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: you can watch a social network. I don't know how much. Yeah, 346 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: I mean social network obviously is that you'll you'll enjoy Facebook. 347 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: But yeah, you were ten when it came out. So 348 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: it starts Jesse Eisenberg Andrew Garfield justin timber Lake and 349 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: it's the story of creation of Facebook. It's fascinating. Oh yes, 350 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. It was she was 351 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: eight eight wo um. Yeah. My favorite movie it's Titanic. 352 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: Titanic is my top favorite movie, and then everything else. 353 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: I can't rank. I don't think I can rank, but 354 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: I can throw the names out. Um, Pretty Woman, the 355 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: Wedding Planner when Harry met Sally, Jerry McGuire, my big 356 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: Greek rom Common big Gyboding would be up there that high. Um, 357 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: The Star Is Born, The Greatest Showman m one of 358 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: my favorite movies of all times that I think is 359 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: so underrated is crazy stupid love. Oh, Jared's is with 360 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: Jared's top five, I would say top ten. That movie 361 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: was probably the reason I was on the bachelorte. Wait really, yeah, 362 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: just wanted to be. I wanted to be. I watched 363 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: that movie in my room at my parents house. Were 364 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: you eleven? Yeah, uh something like that. Yeah. The point 365 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: of the story is I watched that movie and immediately 366 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: afterwards I was like, I need to get a new wardrobe, 367 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: and so I went to uh, oh my god. I 368 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: went to the only the classiest place in the Warwick mall, 369 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: J C. Penny, and bought some new wardrobes. Lovely, did 370 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: you dress like Ryan Gosling? I draw a very low 371 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: budget version of Ryan Gosling, but oh yeah, and then 372 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: I started drinking old fashions and uh I would uh 373 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,479 Speaker 1: remember actively like practicing my pickup lines for girls at 374 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: bars because he was just so suave where he's like, 375 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: you know you're doing this thing. What's your pickup line? 376 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: What was key? Of course if you had if you 377 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 1: had to pick a blind what were they? So my 378 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: what I did? It's so so if I was at 379 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: a bar and I saw a girl that I wanted 380 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: to talk to you, it's very funny you can talk 381 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: about Obviously I didn't, so I don't have a move. 382 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: But I just Ashley knows this. There are times when 383 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: I can be very very insecure and be very down 384 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: on myself. But I also find that if I'm comfortable, 385 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: I can be also very confident in myself. And so 386 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: I remember, like at bars, I would be very confident. 387 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: I remember I would I would project confidence and I 388 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: would like I would always like and then a girl 389 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: would come up to him and be like, keep like 390 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: never mind, no, no, no, that would come later what 391 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and so, but I would always try to 392 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: make eye contact, uh in like very subtle ways, and 393 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: always be smiling, and it would always be like that 394 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: weird like and then I'd always make sure I was 395 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: kind of like around like if I finally like I 396 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: could feel like some sort of chemistry between a girl 397 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: and myself at the bar, I always make sure I 398 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: was around for a little while, kind of like build 399 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 1: upon it, and then I would, Um, I mean sometimes 400 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: I go over. Most of the times, I'd never go over. 401 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: I would honestly wait for the girl to come over 402 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: to me. I'm such a loser. Jared's definitely that kind. 403 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: I had to go after him forever and so but 404 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: I still have to go after him even our marriage. 405 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: But luckily sometimes I would come over. But then uh, 406 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: sometimes I would go over and um, I would I would. 407 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: There would be no pickup line, no nothing. It would 408 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: just be like, hey, what's up from Jared. I would 409 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: try to just I can't imagine this, to be honest, 410 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: I know you, like any time a girl started showing interest, 411 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: then that's when I would back off, and then they 412 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: would want me more. Because so why I had such 413 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: a difficult time on the show, and such a guy 414 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: who loves playing hard to get it's and then it's 415 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: just like I want something, and once I get it, 416 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm like all right, cool. On the next I guess okay, 417 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: But then by the end, you actually played hard to 418 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: get and you got her, So what did you do? 419 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: What did you do? I became that smiley confident every 420 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: time I would see Ashley or any time I would 421 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: talk to Ashley, I would be, you know, constantly reminding myself, 422 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: um that you can't, like it's gonna sound very dumb, 423 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: but like you can do this, because I think there's 424 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: again actually knows this. I think there's just I can 425 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 1: get in long stretches of of self pity and just 426 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: wanting to be like in my room by myself, not 427 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: talking to anybody and insecure. But yeah, I think a 428 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: lot of people are. I think a lot of people 429 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: can relate to that. Um. So I think I also 430 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: am capable of being very confident and attractive and charismatic 431 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: and charming. Um And so I think I was just 432 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: constantly trying to remind myself of be that guy. Be 433 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: that guy, because you can be that guy. And if 434 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: you're that guy, she's gonna want to be with that guy. 435 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: But if you're the self pity and security arried, she's 436 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: not gonna want to be with him. And so I 437 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: think I was just constantly reminded myself of that and 438 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: putting on the like a little bit of facade, which 439 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: is also what I did for The Bachelor ret just 440 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: put on a facade. I I don't preach this to anybody. 441 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: I this is how I just do it for myself. 442 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: I'm able to mask a lot of things pretty well. 443 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: He always warned me. He was like, just letting you know, 444 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: like I'm crazy in here. You just see the best 445 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: part of me. This is before we were like like, 446 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: you don't want to be with me, I'm telling you, 447 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: And she's like, you're insane. I was like, yeah, I know, 448 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: but you don't know how insane. And then I and 449 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: then I married him, but I was like, holy shit, 450 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: you are insane. But like that's what's so interesting. So 451 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: how do you when you're in those moments, how do 452 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: you get out of your your own head? Because that's 453 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: something that I deal with two And I'm always looking 454 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: for tips. I think perspective is always a good thing 455 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: to remember, uh and try to uh step outside your 456 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: own body, in your own mind and look at your 457 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: situation as an outsider and then you realize, ah, wow, 458 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: it's really not so bad. And then also, um, you know, 459 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: picture you're what you're going through. Picture if your friend 460 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: was going through that, and what would you tell them 461 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: to do. Because everybody can give great advice is just 462 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: whether you can actually practice it. Or not. So I 463 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: think that's another good tool and be like, Okay, well, 464 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: if you know, if Stephanie was going through the exact 465 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: same situation I was going through, what would I be 466 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: telling her to do? And then try to practice that 467 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: um And then also again, uh, practice being confident. Just 468 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: like anything in life, you have to practice it. You know, 469 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: it just doesn't come naturally. I don't believe that. I 470 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: don't think good uh, you know, positive mindsets and confidence. 471 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: I don't think that comes natural way to people. I 472 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: think you have to practice it, just like any skill. 473 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: Jared is good at, like giving advice to like get 474 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: yourself like out of a hole, and I am like 475 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: good at projecting like a whole lifetime. See, but like 476 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: that's why you guys work. That's that's true. But the 477 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: bachel has been happening, like we talked about, and I'm 478 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: curious what your take is just on this season. I 479 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: have found it to be an entertaining season that has 480 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: given me a lot of material to talk about. So 481 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: to me, it's been a good season because I had 482 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: to talk about The Bachelor as part of some of 483 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: my jobs, So there hasn't been much I've never been 484 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: struggling to find content to speak about. I think Peter 485 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: has been uh an interesting bachelor. I think Peter it 486 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: seems like a really, really nice guy, and I honestly 487 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: wish him the best. I sometimes wonder if maybe he 488 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: was in over his head a little bit with being 489 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: the bachelor, um, which I'm sure a lot of this 490 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: would be. I can't the people who would get cast 491 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: as a lead would probably be in over their head. 492 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 1: I think we've been very lucky that guys like Ben 493 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: or I would I would say Nick, I'd say even Coulton. 494 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: I think Coulton was ready for the moment um. And so, yeah, 495 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: Peter looks a little uh wide eyes sometimes, you know 496 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: where it's like I don't know if I'm doing the 497 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: right thing, which I can't blame him. He's day girls. 498 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: At the same time, it's an overwhelming thing. It is overwhelming. 499 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that, like more people haven't been in Peter's shoes. 500 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of leads have handled themselves 501 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: surprisingly well. Yeah, let me clarify. I was talking about 502 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: having a lot of content to talk about. I think 503 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: I say that because so many people have had flak 504 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: for this season. So many people having criticizing him and 505 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 1: the quality of his cast. I think there's been a 506 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: lot of good drama to talk about. I think that 507 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: as a fan base, people have issues with a lot 508 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: of Peter's decision making, especially with everything going on with Madison. 509 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: Curious what your perspective on it, because that was a 510 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: huge controversy. Jared and I both agree that if he 511 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: really respected his relationship enough with with Madison, he wouldn't 512 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: have gone on and slept with Victoria and Ann. And 513 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: it's just like, basically in him deciding, in him deciding 514 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: to sleep with the other two girls, he was willing 515 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: to raisk his relationship with Maddie. Do you think, okay, 516 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: do you think it would affect his decision or change 517 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: his decision if she had told him that she was 518 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: waiting till marriage. So I asked him that at Women 519 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: Tell All. I asked him that question afterward, and he said, 520 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: it may have. I don't I don't know what I'm 521 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: sure it would have. But here's the thing, here's what 522 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: it all boils down to. Madison told him before the 523 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: fantasy swedes. Yeah, it doesn't really mean I didn't want 524 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: him sleeping with other people because it would have affected 525 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: their relationship. And it doesn't really matter why she asked 526 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: that question. I mean, it matters a little bit why 527 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: she asked that, but I mean she still asked, right, 528 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: and so she didn't tell him she was a virgin. 529 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: She probably should have. But if Peter knew it was 530 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: going to be Madison at that point, why would you 531 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: sleep with the other two women? If she asked so, 532 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: either he didn't think it was going to be Madison, 533 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: he thought he could get away with it, or he 534 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: thought he could get away with it, or he just 535 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: didn't care or didn't want to abide by her wishes, 536 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: which I'm not saying is right or wrong, because if 537 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: you reverse that, and if it was just solely based 538 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: on her asking him not sleep with other women, that 539 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: is similar to what happened with Hannah and Luke. No, 540 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: obviously the situation is completely different. You can't really compare 541 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: the two because their reasons are are very different. Um. 542 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: Because well, because Madison Madison came from a place more 543 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: of their approach and less behind Um. Yes, true, it 544 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: was so much their approach because Madison didn't want to judge, 545 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: and she said, like listen, hey, it wasn't say, but 546 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: the fact is, like, and here's the other thing. So 547 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: I also, I've also heard this the fact that Peter 548 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: slept with the other two women because he just didn't know. 549 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: He didn't know who he was going to pick at 550 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: that point. And a couple of things kind of mind. One, 551 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: do you really need to have sex with someone in 552 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: order to know if you're going to pick them or not, 553 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: Like you can have a pretty good gauge on the 554 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: sexual tention you're gonna have with someone without actually having sex. 555 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, that's my opinion. I could be wrong 556 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: on that one. And then also, if going into the 557 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: final three you truly, truly, truly don't know have an 558 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: equal amount of feelings, don't sleep with any of them, 559 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: don't sleep without them, And I got news for you, 560 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: you're not ready to get engaged in a week. Also, 561 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna bite you in the butt if you do 562 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: sleep with one of any of the three women, if 563 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: you sleep with multiple, if you sleep with a woman 564 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: the fantasy suites that you don't end up engaged to, 565 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna have problems after the show. So Maddie made 566 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: make it seem like they're going to have problems continuing 567 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: the show. But like ask anyone who slept with multiple 568 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: people in the fantasies week before, like six days before 569 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: getting engaged, they have issues because it's like, why did 570 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: you sleep with that person if you knew it was 571 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: going to be me. Yeah, that's a good point. I think. 572 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: Do you think it's possible to be in love with 573 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: three different women because that's what he said, or do 574 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: you think it's just infatuation. I think it's infatuation too. 575 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you something funny. So apparently when we were 576 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: doing the post interviews, um after a Woman Tell All, 577 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: he told me in Access Hollywood that he didn't know 578 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: who he was going to pick going into Fantasy Suits 579 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: week and then five minutes earlier he told Lauren Zema 580 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: and Entertainment to that his front runner from week four 581 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: continued to beat his front runner throughout the rest of 582 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: the season. Huh yeah, so interesting kind of talking to 583 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: him outside both ends of his mouth there. But I 584 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: also Jared says, I mean, Peter is a very sweet, 585 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: wonderful guy. He's probably too sweet for this process. Well, 586 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: it must be so emotionally draining because you're have an 587 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: emotional connection with all of these people and then you 588 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: have to decide in a week if you're going to 589 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: marry them. That's good TV, though, I will say it 590 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: is great tv, no two ways about that one. Yep. Well, 591 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for coming on my podcast. 592 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: It really means a lot, and I know how busy 593 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: you guys are, so thank you, Thank you, thank you 594 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: for having us. 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