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Speaker 1: taking it over. Here's Paul KELVC. Get the popcorn ready,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a show and Ron will flip. It

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Speaker 1: media figure round wolf Lee. You need three things. I

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Speaker 1: How are we doing tonight? Guys? How are you doing tonight?

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Speaker 1: space than any player in the last twenty years. Somebody

425
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Speaker 1: crunched that stat. I don't know where it is, but

426
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Speaker 1: to Drew's point about his ability in space and making

427
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Speaker 1: guys miss anyway, go aheadible no, no, no, Paul, that

428
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: was an excellent addectote right there. All the other rookies

429
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Speaker 1: we haven't talked about, is there one that you went,

430
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Speaker 1: m boy, I like that. Well, you know, when we

431
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: talked last time pre draft, I told you about the

432
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Speaker 1: the kind of guys that we were adding in terms

433
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Speaker 1: of personality and leadership, and we continue that through the draft.

434
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm not just you know, I'm not just saying that.

435
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: He's not just saying that. It's real and those are

436
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: the guys that when we set our one twenty, those

437
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 1: guys are going to take precedence and then they fall

438
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 1: to us. We're gonna take him. So. Uh. The Victor T.

439
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 1: McCage was another guy that adding a big, fix, strong

440
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: outside linebacker. I was excited about. Um, you know, he

441
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 1: was a he started every single game he played in college.

442
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: I think he was forty six forty seven straight games

443
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, Charlie Bullen and I, Quentin Harris and I

444
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: we went to the pro day. The coaches start talking

445
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 1: about this guy and you know, they just light up

446
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: the kids all business. They say, is the alpha the group.

447
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: I would actually use the word scary to describe him. So, um,

448
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: you know, no one messages with the guy. So you

449
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: get that alpha personality with a Duke's degree. It's kind

450
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: of rare, you know. So um, he's he's going to

451
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: be a hard, charging ball and muscle for us. He

452
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: just plays with a relentless motor. Reminded me of Marcus

453
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Speaker 1: Golden when I watched him, So I'm excited that right.

454
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Speaker 1: He's got a great last name. When you think about

455
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: a demo, KG, it just it's gonna us sound really

456
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: good and look good on the back of a jersey.

457
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: I have the tough tough to figure out. You know,

458
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: when you're first looking at him, you just call him

459
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Speaker 1: Vic and then you here you have I mean here

460
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: was one factory. They said he bench pressed two twenty

461
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Speaker 1: five thirty two times as a seventeen year old in

462
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: high school. So when you call him a ball of

463
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: muscle and an alpha, yeah, I guess he'd probably started

464
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: getting that reputation in the weight room. What about the

465
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Speaker 1: two corners though, I definitely had an eye when I

466
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Speaker 1: was out there last Friday, Marco Wilson, Tay Gowan. You know,

467
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Speaker 1: if nothing else, just based on the need, what do

468
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Speaker 1: you think can you tell anything about how ready they

469
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: might be? What it was Marco, you know you're getting

470
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Speaker 1: a guy that's got heighth weight speed. He ran well.

471
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw the picture of

472
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Speaker 1: him out jumping the VerTech where he jumped forty three

473
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Speaker 1: inches or something like that. So yeah, we know, we

474
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Speaker 1: know he could run and jump. But he's also a

475
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Speaker 1: you know, a thirty plus game starter in the SEC.

476
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Speaker 1: He's seen three top receiver, He's seen first round draft

477
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: picks weekend and week out. He comes from a football family.

478
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: You know, his dad played at Miami. His brother obviously

479
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: played UM at Florida a few years before him. He's

480
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Speaker 1: a hard worker. He's gonna be a tough outside corner.

481
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: He could play press man. So he's a He's a

482
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: guy that fits us, and he fits us personality wise.

483
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: He's going to contribute Drew personally. What is your favorite

484
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: position to evaluate? Probably linebacker, just having played it. Um,

485
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Speaker 1: I just uh, And that's why I Zavan was such

486
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Speaker 1: a fun one for me to watch again because I

487
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: kept going back and forth like I just I've never

488
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: seen anything like this, um again at at Mike. Um.

489
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Speaker 1: But I you know, I'm sure just as you would

490
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Speaker 1: wal say, you like to look at the at the

491
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Speaker 1: fullbacks and you can find him and you're critical of

492
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: him all you know, he didn't see this, he didn't

493
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Speaker 1: see this, this this pulling guard here and his eyes

494
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: were taking them the wrong way here and so forth

495
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 1: and songs. I I was enjoyed looking at the linebackers,

496
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 1: you know, from the outside looking in. I think a

497
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Speaker 1: lot of people and we're on board with Drew Griggson,

498
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: director of a a Player Personnel, said, the only box left

499
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Speaker 1: unchecked right now is tight end. Did you see anything

500
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Speaker 1: from the undrafted guys from perhaps the guy the Wolf's

501
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: already named Psycho Bernhard's psycho vets Uh. Do you think

502
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: that's possibly on the radar as a kind time sign?

503
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: Maybe all the above tell us about tight end right

504
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: now in this roster. Well, you know it's it's something

505
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: that we still need to improve. There's no doubt about it. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, we know what uh what we have with

507
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: Max Williams. We have a solid vet is going to

508
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: be very good in the run games. He's going to

509
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Speaker 1: do his thing in the passing game. Um. But after

510
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: that it's you know, it's Darrell Daniels. We know him

511
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: well and we know we're gonna get with him. But

512
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: then it's young and inexperienced. Um. And you know that

513
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: just goes to show you said, we're always going to

514
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Speaker 1: take the best available in the draft because if if

515
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: a Titan's not there, we're not going to reach. And

516
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: there wasn't one available and it's a tough position in

517
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Speaker 1: the draft because it's supplying demand. There's so few. Some

518
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: are good blockers and then they're you know, they're pouring

519
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: the passing game and then vice versa. Very rarely are

520
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: they are. They big, strong, tough, and they they're good

521
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Speaker 1: in both phases. And if they are, if they go

522
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: the first or second round. Um. So there, we didn't

523
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Speaker 1: have the opportunity to draft on. We signed to obviously

524
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Speaker 1: in free agency with Kry Angeline, who is a USC

525
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: transfer went to North Carolina State. Uh, you know, very tall, long,

526
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: very good in the passing game. Athletic. And then Bruno LaBelle,

527
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: who's almost his exact opposite. He's a big body, six four,

528
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pound kid who's really really good

529
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Speaker 1: in the running game. And then they're they're gonna kind

530
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: of feed off of each other. So um. And then

531
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Speaker 1: even with Bernhard sake of his I've been impressed with

532
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: him already, just with him picking up what we've thrown

533
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: to him so far, he hasn't been swimming in it.

534
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: I thought that's where he would be at this point.

535
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Speaker 1: And you know, with that allocation, we may have gotten

536
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Speaker 1: lucky with that one true has Iver been a player

537
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals? You wrote off while you watched him

538
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 1: in shorts and helmet, and then all of a sudden,

539
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: when he put the pads on, you said, oh my goodness,

540
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: what where has this been? Have you ever come across

541
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: a guy like that? Good? Good question. And one of

542
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: the things I try to ignore across the league is

543
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: any type of chatter going on right now or even

544
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: into camp when you know when it's just helmets, well,

545
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: if you know, you know everyone is separated, you know,

546
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: if it's the separation of the men, you know when

547
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: when that shoulder pads and the helmets go on that

548
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: we find out, you know, that's what separates the men

549
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: from the boys. So um, I try to avoid getting

550
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: too excited about anything in training camp. That's why again

551
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: I said, you get excited about with Jesevin's communication and

552
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: his ability to make adjustments right now and jes See

553
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: and Rondale move around and snatch the ball out of

554
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: the air. We don't know anything until those guys pad

555
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: up um because it's obviously it's a different game when

556
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: you know Victor t mcage's coming off the line and

557
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: he can run through your midline and push into the

558
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: quarterback as opposed to you know, just dancing around in

559
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: shorts and jerseys right now. Though, yes, well, Drew, we

560
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: appreciate the insight and uh, I tell you it fires

561
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: us up. And uh, you know, we don't say it.

562
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: We didn't say it in the past till we lost it.

563
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: We didn't appreciate it till we didn't have any longer.

564
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: But thank goodness for training camp in preseason games because hey,

565
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys who need the experience, and

566
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Speaker 1: b we can't wait to see him on the field

567
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: before September. So we appreciate the time in the insight tonight. Absolutely, guys,

568
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: thank you, Yeah, thank you, Drew. Really appreciate it right there.

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Speaker 1: I wonder how many reps he'd get at two twenty five, Paul,

570
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: how many reps do you think Drew would get at

571
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Speaker 1: two twenty five? You know, I'm going thirty three. You know, Wolf,

572
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: you don't have to ask these questions. You can actually

573
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Speaker 1: show up in the weight room once in a while

574
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: and actually a few it for yourself. You know, you

575
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: keep wondering from afar. Oh, I don't let you show

576
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: up in the weight room. Drew. Thank you, man. We

577
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: appreciate you, Love you, bro. Talk to you later, all right, guys,

578
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Good night. Yeah, you know, Wolf, every day

579
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: was biceps day when he was a player. Fact with

580
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Speaker 1: Moore on the Big Red Rage right after this pleasure

581
00:28:54,640 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: down it is it hicked up in the air. Then

582
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: the other way with it is JJ watt and he

583
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: is going to go eighty plush yards with a touchdown

584
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: fall of street next the round and it's good trophy.

585
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: Want to pick up running in it to the fluty

586
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: to the thirty to the dry He's gone touchdown. What

587
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: can he do? Portal for time UK. Here comes walk

588
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: and he brings that portal to the end. Zide. J J.

589
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: Watt with the sack looking up from behind. Here comes

590
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: one and second time he has gotten to the quarterback

591
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: Stafford back in the past. Books comes out upside intercepted

592
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: by J. J. Watt and he's gonna take it in

593
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. Conversation with Zach Allen, Cardinals third year

594
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: defensive lineman last month round Wolfley. Here we are on

595
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Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage Special thanks to Drew Grigson for

596
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Speaker 1: Join US Director of Player Personnel. I'll brought to you

597
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: by Santan Ford and Gilbert and Zach Allen says he

598
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 1: still has those moments when he gets text messages from

599
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: JJ Watt where he looks at his phone and he

600
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: pauses and it's sort of surreal because he grew up

601
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: and he attended Boston College watching all of JJ Watts's

602
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: film when he was a three time NFL Defensive Player

603
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 1: of the Year, and now JJ Watts Texas saying, what's up, bro,

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Speaker 1: how's it going? PAULI, It's like me when I was

605
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: collecting Walter Payton's cards. Walter Payton, the greatest running backup

606
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Speaker 1: all time. Walter Payton is I was twelve years old

607
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: when he came into the league. I'm collecting his cards.

608
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: Suddenly my locker is next to his in the Pro Bowl.

609
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Wow? Blew my mind. Yeah, So

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00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: there you go. JJ Wat little highlight montage courtesy ar

611
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: Jim Almahundro. And look, we heard Drew Grigson, and he

612
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: ought a lot of great things to say, the things

613
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: you want to hear, at least when it comes to

614
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: Zavan Collins said, guess what the things that you can

615
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: see during a rookie minicamp and that matter he excelled at,

616
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: like setting the front and making the adjustments and communicating

617
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: like he should because they're going to give him the

618
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: green dots as Drew said. He even went on to

619
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Speaker 1: say they got to steal the Arizona Cardinals at sixteen.

620
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: Then he talked about ron Dale Moore. Probably the quote

621
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Speaker 1: of the whole interview was what was it he doesn't

622
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: move laterally, he teleports teleports Polly. That was great an eye.

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Speaker 1: So it leads us to the following question. Other than

624
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Speaker 1: JJ Watt and Zaven Collins, who are you most excited

625
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: to see when training camp gets going two months from now.

626
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: So PAULI are we talking about the free age and

627
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: newcomers here? Is that what we're talking anybody? Okay? JJ

628
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: can I can I say Rodney Hudson. Rodney Hudson, PAULI right.

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Speaker 1: I think Rodney Hudson epitomizes excuse me, I think everything

630
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: that this team culturally needs to become. I listen, He's physical, Paul,

631
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson is a physical center. He's smart, he's tough,

632
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: and he's gonna bring so much leadership to that locker

633
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: room right there. This is where the Arizona Cardinals I

634
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: think need to get better culturally. They need to get

635
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Speaker 1: more physical, smarter, tougher, with better leadership inside that locker him.

636
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: I think he embodies. He epitomizes all of what the

637
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: Cardinals need to collectively become. Polly, that's a great pick.

638
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: I'll go with two other names. I'll go one just

639
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: because they need it. Robert Alford. I mean we had

640
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: an argument. You know, I didn't want to go all

641
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: Skip Bayless with a hot take, but I said, the

642
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 1: key to two twenty one is named Robert Alfred. If

643
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: you're telling me he's a legitimate number two corner. If

644
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: you're telling me he can stay healthy and actually regain

645
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: the form we saw in two thousan nineteen and two

646
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: twenty and I know everybody now he hasn't played a

647
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: fully healthy season since two thousand and seventeen. But if

648
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: he can show if he can somehow be that guy,

649
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: think of how far that'll go. And you don't have

650
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: to rely on the youth and an experience, which from

651
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: all indications, you know one of your top three corners

652
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: is going to be mighty inexperienced. Right now, if Robert

653
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: Alpherd doesn't come through, right, it's a good point, Bully listen.

654
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: I would also have to say Kyler Murty, I would

655
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: also have to say it, and not because he's going

656
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: into year three. Remember last year, Paul, everyone was talking about, oh,

657
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: year two, and you know Pat Mahomes won the NBA

658
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: pay and year two and Lamar Jackson wanted to remember

659
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: all that talk, the narrative surrounding Kyler Murray going into

660
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: year two. I don't want to go into the whole Well,

661
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen made huge strides in year three, right, Paul,

662
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about that. What about Baker Mayfield. Oh,

663
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: here we go. So you're gonna fall into the narrative.

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Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about Paully. I started

665
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: this narrative in January. Go ahead, you did start it,

666
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: and you know what, we're gonna finish it right here

667
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: on Big Red Rage, Paul Um Kyler Murray. I just

668
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: I have this feeling, Paul. It's a weird feeling. It's

669
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: it's strange, and I mean this, you know, Paul, I

670
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: I don't talk to anybody over there. I haven't talked

671
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: to anybody. I want my thoughts to be my thoughts.

672
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: So when I'm wrong, I'm just flat out wrong. And

673
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't offend to anybody over there, right, Kyler Murray,

674
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: I just have this feeling this offense is gonna morph

675
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: into something. And what that something is I don't know, Paul.

676
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: It's going to have elements of the air rate, it's

677
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: gonna have elements of what Cliff Kingsbury is so pronounced

678
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: at and what he knows so well. But I think

679
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: that Cliff is going to incorporate if I don't, if

680
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: I'm not missing the mark here, I think he's going

681
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: to incorporate, PAULI some more traditional elements into the offense

682
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: and use that brilliant mind that he has to actually

683
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: freshen up more traditional sets and personnel groups and plays.

684
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see something different in twenty twenty one,

685
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: and I want to see Kyler Murray in that different part,

686
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: all right. So in between Kyler Marine, Zavian Collins, the

687
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: first rounder Isaiah Simmons, and you could easily name him

688
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: because we didn't see a whole bunch of him last year.

689
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: And when we did see him, he did things like

690
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: lead the team in tackles at Seattle with tend and

691
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: have a sack Okay Cam Newton yep and so, and

692
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: the big pick in overtime to seal that win against

693
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. But here's what Jim trot Or, a longtime

694
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: NFL insider, had to say on what he told Vance

695
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: Joseph or what Advanced Joseph told him recently about Isaiah Simmons,

696
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: and speaking to defensive coordinator Vans Joseph recently, they are

697
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: expecting a lot more. In fact, Vance told me he said, look,

698
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: he's comfortable at outside linebacker, he's comfortable rushing the passer.

699
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: We even used him at safety for two games. But

700
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: the one area we want to work with him on

701
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: this year is playing inside linebacker behind that line of scrimmage,

702
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: in the run game and in the dime package. They

703
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: are expecting a huge improvement from Isaiah Simmons this year. Okay, Okay,

704
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: here we go, Paul Yats. Yes, what happened to Isaiah

705
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: Simmons last year? The Cardinals are not going to allow

706
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: to happen to Zavian Collins this year. And by that,

707
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: I mean the worst thing happened Isaiah Simmons a year

708
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: ago was Davondre Campbell, a veteran who was better than

709
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: the rookie. Yes, so this year they're making darn sure,

710
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: are they not? Ron Wolfley. This is just my observation

711
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: that there's no impediment, there's no obstacle, there's no viable

712
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: option to beat out Zavan Collins this year, right because

713
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: that guy has been granted permission to seek a trade. Yes, absolutely, Paully.

714
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: And again it's these two young guys in the middle

715
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: of the field right now. It's so critical if in

716
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: fact you can find you can identify two human beings

717
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: that can actually play that Mike and that mo backer

718
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: on the week side, the week side inside linebacker. If

719
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: you can do that, Paul, and you can leave these

720
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: two guys on the field for three downs, three down backers,

721
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Paul, what a huge advantage that is.

722
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: You heard me talking about Navarro Bowman and Patrick Willias Willis.

723
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: You've heard me talk about that in the past, Luke, Keekley,

724
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: Thomas Davis. It's such a massive advantage when a defense

725
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: can do that. That's why if these two guys develop,

726
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: it's going to be the best trend defensively that Cardinals

727
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: could possibly have, in my opinion, will be Zaven Collins

728
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: and Isaiah Simmons and staying on the field for three downs, Paul,

729
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: and I just don't want to see him. I don't

730
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: want to see him on the edge. I don't want

731
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: to see him out there. I don't want to see

732
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: him in the slot. I don't want to see it.

733
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: I want to see him off the ball. And that's

734
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: why I was really glad to hear that gentleman say

735
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: what he just did off the ball playing the week

736
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: side inside linebacker. You know what else you want? Ron

737
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: Wolfley is a bonus player that I'm most excited to

738
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: see in two twenty one, Thanks for asking or less

739
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: of you, AJ Green. If you're bullish and AJ Green,

740
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: you say, nobody had fewer on targets right at fewer

741
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: passes thrown, they were catchable last year than AJ Green.

742
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: And when they were on target, guess what he caught

743
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: him in traffic. Now, if you're critical of AJ Green

744
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: a year ago, you say, you know what. The ankle

745
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: is never right, the foot was never right. He didn't

746
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: get much separation. However, what's intriguing to me is I

747
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: was talking to Carlos Dansby recently wolf as a name

748
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: drop again. Yes, he said he's never practiced with any

749
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: player who practiced harder than AJ Green. He said, the

750
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: dude balls out in practice. And he said, once you

751
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: get him off the turf, Carlos is left the fifteenth

752
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: former Bengal to say, once you get him off the

753
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: turf and you get him onto the real grass, lookout.

754
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: For that reason, AJ Green is definitely on my list.

755
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: We continue with a big red rage. Within the one

756
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty sixth pick in the twenty twenty one

757
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals selected Marco Wilson, cornerback Florida

758
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: smart player too, and that's what they value. Rundale Moore

759
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: graduated for DW in two and a half years and

760
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: Davan Collins was a high school valedictorian. Marco Wilson aptitude

761
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: test off the chart, smart player with the of course

762
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: athletic Adrilona. Yeah, he should be known for more than

763
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: throwing the shoe against lshoe. He's a good player, trained

764
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: by his father who was a college defensive back. His

765
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: brother Quincy Wilson also in the NFL. Good bloodlines, good intellect.

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00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: What's that line from the movie? Look, you know, football

767
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: and crab cakes, that's what Maryland does. Well, guess what

768
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: football and cornerbacks. That's what the Wilsons do, whether it's

769
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: Dad as a cornerbacks coach, whether it's the brother or

770
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: a round to pick Quincy Wilson, Marco Wilson a round

771
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: four pick of the Arizona Cardinals. It is the final

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Speaker 1: segment here, the Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford

773
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley

774
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: our special guest. Earlier, the Director of Player Personnel Drew Grigson.

775
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: He was talking about the measurables and how he out

776
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: jumped the VerTech the vertical jump measurement system and if

777
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: you believe the next gen stats to give him a

778
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: ninety nine athleticism score. Marco Wilson the likes of a.

779
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: Todd McShay said, you know what, terms of the talent

780
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: and the measurables, he's at worst a day two picks.

781
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna take a flyer on a corner

782
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: in round four, how about a guy with a lot

783
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: of upside and that appears to be Marco Wilson. Yeah,

784
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: I love that belly. Did you say you had a

785
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: forty two inch vertical? Is that what you say? It

786
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: was forty three point five? Oh okay, Paul I had

787
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: a thirty two inch just for the record, right there, Paully.

788
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: But you know what, it's interesting when you think of

789
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks. Of course, some of the young guys that

790
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: are coming in here. It makes me think of Robert

791
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: Alford and Malcolm Butler and Byron Murphy, Paully. It's not

792
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 1: just about Marco Wilson Wilson, I should say, and Tay Gowan,

793
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: of course, it's not just about these young guys and

794
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: how they're gonna come in and develop. To me, I'm

795
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: very interested to see how those three corners, in particular,

796
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: how they mash because think about this, Paully. In the

797
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: National Football League right now, eleven personnel in first and

798
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: ten situations. Guess what is the number one personnel group

799
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Eleven personnel, Paul. That's one back,

800
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: one tight end, three wide receivers. That is the number

801
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: one personnel group on first and ten in the National

802
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: Football League. What does that mean? Well, you know what,

803
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: if in fact you've got Zaven Collins and Isaiah Simmons

804
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,959
Speaker 1: as you're every down linebackers, If in fact you're gonna

805
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: go with a four to nickel front against that eleven personnel,

806
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: that means you better have three corners, three corners that

807
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: are going to be able to go out there and

808
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 1: play in lockdown in man coverage. Robert Alfred of course,

809
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler a guy that I absolutely love. When you

810
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: talk about a dog, we all know about his past,

811
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: we all know about how he likes to walk up

812
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: and jam receivers as well. Byron Murphy. As the slot corner,

813
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: you've got Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson. I think those

814
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: will be your safeties in that situation. But that's gonna

815
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: be huge, Paulie, how those three corners play, especially in

816
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: press man covered something vance. Joseph loves to play quarter

817
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: coverage as well, which is a forty zone. They love

818
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: to employ these techniques. It's going to be critical how

819
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: those three corners in particular play, PAULI. Now that means, hey,

820
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: who knows, Tay Gowan might surprise, might shock everybody. Marco

821
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: Wilson the same way. But typically there's gonna be a

822
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: learning curve there, Paul. So I'm focusing on those three

823
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 1: guys in particular, and it makes sense absolutely. Cliff Kingsbury

824
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: did share they consider Marco Wilson an inside or outside guy.

825
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: You go inside on the side, he could go press

826
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: man outside, as Drew Grigson said the same thing. Take

827
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: Gallan more of an outside corner. And you remember Wolf

828
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: last week on the Big Red Rage, we asked All

829
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: Pro safety Buddha Baker about the two young corners. Definitely

830
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: excited to see what those guys can do. First and foremost,

831
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: we're going to see him on the field and you know,

832
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: helped them out however we can. But for me being

833
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: a dB, being a safety. I'm definitely gonna have to

834
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: give him the cause, help him out whatever they need

835
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: help with. And I have a lot of we have

836
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: a lot of faith in g Money, the corners coach

837
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: over there. I'm excited to see what these guys can do.

838
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: There you go, Buddha Baker. And by the way, Gee

839
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 1: Money was our guests recently on the Big Red Rage,

840
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: Greg Williams, the cornerbacks coach, and we asked him about

841
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson, right and what he needs the most. And

842
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: here was the corners coach. As we watched him, we

843
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: knew that he had talent, you know, he had he

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Speaker 1: has a skill set just like some of the other

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Speaker 1: elite corners that went earlier in the draft, and it's

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Speaker 1: just a matter of getting consistent and then we think

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Speaker 1: that he has that in him, so we think the

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Speaker 1: best ball is ahead of him. You know what I

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Speaker 1: remember about Greg Williams in that conversation even more Paully,

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Speaker 1: was when he said confidence was the key, right, the

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Speaker 1: number one thing that a corner needed, Polly was confidence.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine, I mean, there you are, You're out

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Speaker 1: there on the island by yourself, Paul, and you're looking

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Speaker 1: across the way, and that's DeAndre Hopkins. Okay, Paul would

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Speaker 1: just say DeAndre Hopkins one of the best wide receivers

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Speaker 1: Pail Murray. Yeah, that's right, Paul, I mean right, honestly,

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones, whatever it may be, can you imagine you've

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Speaker 1: got him in man cover and maybe you know you're

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Speaker 1: not going to get any safety help over the top

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Speaker 1: on this play. Oh baby, you better have more than

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Speaker 1: a monicum of confidence if you want to be able

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Speaker 1: to hold up in those situations. And when I think

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Speaker 1: of rookie corners, I think they come in with a

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Speaker 1: lot of swag. But how's that confidence going to be

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Speaker 1: week four, week five when they get burn him from

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Speaker 1: time to time. Well, he was a starter from day

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Speaker 1: one as a true freshman at Florida going against SEC receivers.

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Speaker 1: The only other corners to do that in Florida history

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Speaker 1: Joe Hayden, Genores Jenkins, and Marcus Roberson. Think about that,

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Speaker 1: they could play and then take Allan he likes to

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Speaker 1: call himself Gowan Island. Well, you know what, I don't

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Speaker 1: mind that because of the confidence factory and Greg William said,

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Speaker 1: you know he has the work ethic to back it up. Okay,

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Speaker 1: special thanks Drew Grigson or Jim Almandro, Jeff darch, Ron Wolfield,

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