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Speaker 1: Motherfucking mini year son, motherfucking mini year. So yep, yep, yep,

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Speaker 1: there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another phenomenal mini episode of My Mama Told Me,

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Speaker 1: the podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets

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Speaker 1: of black conspiracy theories and we finally worked to prove

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Speaker 1: the questions the theories that you the listener have at home.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Lank Stint Kerman, and I'm David Borie,

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Speaker 1: the co host. Hell yeah, we are here together. He

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Speaker 1: nailed it, You fucking nailed got him back up. Bit

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Speaker 1: now for the many episodes. Much like before, we're going

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Speaker 1: to going to dig into the theories that you the

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Speaker 1: listeners send our way. In this conspiracy theory is coming

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Speaker 1: to us from a person named Joseph, a dude named Joe.

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Speaker 1: He goes by Joe his emails Joseph. So maybe I'm

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Speaker 1: making it too formal, but Joe sent a conspiracy theory

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Speaker 1: to us where he said, my name is Joe, and

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Speaker 1: I got a theory that all the gay stylists got

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Speaker 1: together to conspire to dress rappers and make them look

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Speaker 1: stupid as revenge for their homophobic lyrics. Okay, while I

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Speaker 1: do appreciate that, Wait, what do you appreciate inside of this?

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Speaker 1: Tell me more. I celebrate the entire theory. I think

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Speaker 1: it's I think that is great, right, I think I like,

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Speaker 1: I want to live in that world. I want to

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Speaker 1: live in that world where where a bunch of stylists go,

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Speaker 1: they've heard us for too long. Yeah, let's sam up.

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Speaker 1: Let's dress them stupid progressively, more and more stupid for

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Speaker 1: generations as revenge. Is it progressive? I think it's always

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Speaker 1: been stupid compared to the culture. M hmm, what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: rappers have always looked ridiculous. Sure, so I don't know

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Speaker 1: was a time where rappers didn't have like a wave

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Speaker 1: They're like, look, I break dance during the day, but

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Speaker 1: can blend those styles, then that would be the greatest

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Speaker 1: This look did pre date American Russians showing up in

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Speaker 1: old niggas from the eighties dress like run DMC. I

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Speaker 1: fuck you, homophobic motherfucker's you're gonna look real silly for

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Speaker 1: we're gonna put dresses on you, yea, which I don't

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Speaker 1: I actually dresses on dudes look that bad. I actually

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Speaker 1: I get it, you're depressed. Now you're wearing the dress.

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Speaker 1: rock candy or whatever? You Yeah, he's a silly boy

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Speaker 1: rappers looking ridiculous? Oh? Say more? I like that. I

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Speaker 1: Interesting is a word. That's a guy. I'll say this

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Speaker 1: point is. The point is, Joe, I don't think that

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Speaker 1: your conspiracy theory. It sounds like, according to David and

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Speaker 1: Here's hoping that maybe you'll plant the seed for future

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Speaker 1: stylists too to earn their revenge by making a bunch

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Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna look like a fed Ex employee. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: it's gonna look weird and uh and maybe these stylists

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Speaker 1: will be responsible for Joe. But otherwise, if you want

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Speaker 1: rappers that they hurt, you can send them to my

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Speaker 1: mama Pote at gmail dot com. We would love to

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Speaker 1: hear from you. I will speak for myself because David,

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Speaker 1: you can speak for yourself, all right, Okay, welcome bye bye.

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Speaker 1: Motherfucking many years, so many years, motherfucking many years, so,

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Speaker 1: motherfucking many years, so many, motherfucking many years. So