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Speaker 2: I listened to the black guy who tips podcasts because

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Speaker 2: Rod and Karen a hat not. Unlike European Jews, who

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Speaker 2: watched the world close in on them slowly, perhaps barely

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Speaker 2: perceptibly as to start at the start of nauseasm, Colored

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Speaker 2: people in the South would first react in denial and

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Speaker 2: disbelief to the rise in hysteria, then, helpless to stop it,

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Speaker 2: attempt a belated resistance, not knowing and not able to

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Speaker 2: imagine how far the supremacist would go. The outcomes for

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Speaker 2: both groups were widely divergent, one suffering unspeakable loss in genocide,

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Speaker 2: the other ending enduring nearly a century of apartheid programs

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Speaker 2: and mob executions. But the hatreds and fears that led

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Speaker 2: both assaults were not dissimilar, and rallied and relied on

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Speaker 2: arousing the passions of the indifferent to mount so complete

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Speaker 2: an attack. The South began acting in the outright defiance

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Speaker 2: of the Fourteenth Amendment in eighteen sixty eight, which granted

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Speaker 2: the right to due process and equal protection to anyone

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Speaker 2: Amendment of eighteen eighty, which guaranteed all men the right

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Speaker 2: to vote. Politicians began writing these anti black sentiments all

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Speaker 2: the way to the governor's mansions throughout the South, and

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Speaker 2: deceased in the US Senate. It is necessary, If it

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Speaker 2: is necessary, every nego in the state will be lynch.

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Speaker 2: James K. Vardaman, the white supremacy candidate in the nineteen

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Speaker 2: hand and make an insolent cook. Mississippi voted Vartamint into

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Speaker 2: All the while, newspapers are giving black violence top building

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Speaker 2: Sheriff's deputies mysteriously found themselves unable to prevent the abduction

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Speaker 2: place of an upcoming lynching, inspectacles that often went on

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Speaker 2: for hours. Black men and women were routinely tortured and mutilated,

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Speaker 2: then hanged or burned alive, all before festive crowds of

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Speaker 2: as many as several thousand white citizens. Children in toe

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Speaker 2: hoisted on their father's shoulders to get a better view. Hey,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the Black Houtels podcast. Your host Rod d Karen. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: are we back? Were back on they ass for Black History. Yes,

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Speaker 2: the bullet ball extreme and that exert is from the

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Speaker 2: warmth of other sons. What you guys know, I actually

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Speaker 2: finished reading earlier this earlier last month, so like one

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so uh, that's one of those things where

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Speaker 2: I think people I love how that starts off with

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Speaker 2: the comparison of the Jewish, Uh, the Holocaust, that hate

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Speaker 2: comes from the same place. Yeah, it's all. It's all

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Speaker 2: stand from the same place. And how often we don't

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Speaker 2: really see black people thought about in the terms that

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Speaker 2: that survived like you know, extreme torture and genocide because

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Speaker 2: you know, everything from Jim Crow to the civil rights movement,

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Speaker 1: No, because when it comes to white supremacy, whiteness wants

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Speaker 1: You know, it's one of those things where you go

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what I find funny is you have

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Speaker 2: Fucking World War two Holocaust movies come out every fucking

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Speaker 2: you know, Jewish people teach their kids like to be vigilant.

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Speaker 1: A lot of Jewish people are like, hey, y'all, this

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Speaker 2: Great great great great grandparent die.

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Speaker 1: No, the Nazis, pop them niggas in the face, fuck them,

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Speaker 1: like and everybody like, nah, nah, it's okay. No, it's

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Speaker 2: Niggas start with the Jews.

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Speaker 1: Fuck no, it's pressed to everybody, this other, every body.

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Speaker 1: It's a fucking disease, and it's a disease that need

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Speaker 1: to be eradicated and killed. But it's one of those

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Speaker 1: things where you see a body getting sick in America,

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Speaker 1: this needs to be fixed, it's covering it up. It's

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Speaker 1: sugar coating. And also the thing about in America for

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Speaker 1: to it can happen again, It can have We used

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Speaker 2: with the gang of like we tearing people down. It

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00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: makes people, It brings out the worst. And what happens

429
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: is every once in a while, something happens to someone

430
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: that makes you want to go, wh whoa, whoa, let's

431
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: put some breaks on this thing. And Kobe, for a

432
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: lot of people, was a guy that they wanted to

433
00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 2: put some breaks on it. The shit don't break, you

434
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I don't want to hop

435
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 2: on the bandwagon with these motherfuckers every time somebody dies

436
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: with what about this? And then you get to see

437
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: the hypocrisy of people. You get to see people you

438
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 2: know that where their lines seems to curve a little bit, right,

439
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 2: it's white women with David Bowie avatars talking about this

440
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,239
Speaker 2: motherfucker's a rapist, you know. It's that thing. You know.

441
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 2: It's people that worship Biggie and Tupac, you know, saying

442
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: how you know exit Triple X tentation or xxx tentation

443
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 2: was such a you know what a horrible person. Why

444
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,719
Speaker 2: I can't believe anyone ever fucked with him? Blah blah,

445
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 2: And I'm like, dog, everybody need to allow themselves and

446
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: other people a little bit of the grace. You allow yourself,

447
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: you need to be looking at other people with that agreed,

448
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: you know. But I'm glad that I like, sometimes I

449
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: say shit like that on the show, and I'm like,

450
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: you know, I know it's annoying to the super duper

451
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: like we always riding all the time people, but real talk.

452
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: I'm glad that I said the shit I said at

453
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: the time about that dude, so that I could be like, yeah,

454
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 2: and that's how that's why people feel like with this

455
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: Kobe shit. You liked him for what you knew of

456
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 2: him as a celebrity, right, and so now you feel like,

457
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: why are we being so harsh, you know, but these

458
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 2: motherfuckers you don't know or don't like, it's easier to

459
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: just be harsh, you know. And I would, I would

460
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 2: urge everybody to examine that harsh impulst inside of you.

461
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: Is it always right? Is it always the right thing

462
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 2: to do? You know? I think people should think about

463
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 2: this shit. Don't just jump don't just jump in because

464
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: everybody else is jumping, you know, off the off the mic.

465
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: A while back, Karen said something really profound. She was like, Uh,

466
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: the Internet has allowed all of us to be kind

467
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: of like these performative narcissists. And if you guys remember

468
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: some of the stages and tactics of narcissists. I mean

469
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: that is very present in just how the internet works, right,

470
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: how social media works, whether it's the love bombing of

471
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: all you're my favorite, You're the best. I fucking love you.

472
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 2: I retweet everything you do. I stand for you. You're

473
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: the greatest. I fucking you're the best. I didn't hear

474
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: of you till today, and you're now minute. I wanted

475
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: everything good for you. I want to be like you. Right,

476
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: not necessarily a negative thing, but also is that healthy

477
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: to just I didn't know too, Megan the Stallion was

478
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: until three minutes ago, and now I fucking want to

479
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: Megan the Stallion tattoo. Right, Okay, cool, But then the

480
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: first time that person does something that you don't agree with,

481
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: the first person time they revealed that maybe they're not

482
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: on the same political spectrums and ideals as you or whatever. Well,

483
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: now we've done all this projecting onto them to be

484
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 2: one thing. They let us down by being human, and

485
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 2: now they gotta be another thing. Right, So you know,

486
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 2: Megan's stallion comes out and says, you know, I love

487
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: capitalism or some shit. Well, since you have bought every

488
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: book on socialism, you gotta say fuck Megan or you

489
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: have to like quote unquote colde her accountable even though

490
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: she didn't know the fuck you are. You know, friends

491
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: hold people accountable. Strangers don't do shit. But it's like, okay, cool,

492
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm now I'm on her mentions A, you can't be

493
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: saying this blah blah blah, fuck you, essentially right, and

494
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: then there's this like discarding of people. Right, this this

495
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: unfriend block unfollowed quote unquote canceled that people talk about,

496
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: and it's very much a performative like look at me,

497
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: shun you, look at look at us, gang up on you.

498
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: All of these imposts are not necessarily healthy and participating

499
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: in this shit. I think people don't think about the

500
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: cost of it until it is somebody that they don't

501
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: Maybe they don't realize I've come around on this person.

502
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: You know, some of the main people I started holding

503
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: shit against Kobe are the like restorative justice, prison abolition

504
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: type motherfuckers. Well for some people that talk about we

505
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: don't need prison, we need forgiveness. We need to allow

506
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: people to move on. We need to applaud when people

507
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: do better and let them reintegrate into society. Y'all, niggas

508
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: don't forget or forgive shit. I don't know how to

509
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: fuck Both of these imposts are supposed to work. You know,

510
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: people don't like when I make the fucking Some people

511
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: don't like when I make the example because it's somebody

512
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: that we all, for the most part collectively dislike. But

513
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: when people bring up Nicki Minaj being married to a

514
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: dude who's a former convicted rapist, people are always like,

515
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: why she with this dude? And my whole thing is like,

516
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: so if he did the crime, and did the time,

517
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: and he's not doing that shit anymore. Are we able

518
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: to so? Is that the unforgivable crime? And if so,

519
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: then why are we saying, well, Kobe, it was different.

520
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: All this shit is complicated, All this shit is layered,

521
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: All this shit is nuanced. None of this shit is

522
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: so black and white. These rules seem to change based

523
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: on how much we know and love you, how much

524
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: we appreciate your work and your talent and stuff like that,

525
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: how much you let people inside. I don't have the

526
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: answers for all this shit, but I'm just happy to

527
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: be able to say like consistently. Because I don't have

528
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: the answers. The only thing I got is me being

529
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: honest and you know. And I don't mean this as

530
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: like some badger honor. But I didn't cry over Kobe.

531
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: Maybe I will one day, maybe I never will, but

532
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: it's it, but it But I still felt that loss,

533
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: and I felt the sadness from all the people around me.

534
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: And I also saw the predictable discourse of well, what

535
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: about this this sexual assault? How you gonna how y'all

536
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: gonna mourn a man who did that?

537
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: You know?

538
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: And I saw people who typically participated in that trying

539
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: to reconcile with and writing their think pieces and the

540
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: Twitter threads and their Facebook posts to try to like

541
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: figure out like why was okay for them? And my

542
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: question is like, okay, well, now figure out why it's

543
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: okay for other people. Sometimes, you know, use that impost

544
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: to expand some of your compassion, to expand some of

545
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: your forgiveness, to expand some of your empathy for other people.

546
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: That's what I would encourage folks to do. Man, don't

547
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: just start with yourself. Don't just be myopic and violate

548
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: these rules that you these arbitrary rules you made for

549
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: everyone but yourself. Think about it. Be a little more

550
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: gentle when people are sad for some motherfucker that you hate,

551
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: you know, it's something to think about. I'm not saying

552
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: there's nobody, I'm sure, you know, fucking just motherfuckers. I'm

553
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: sure I would party on that they died tomorrow, you know.

554
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: But then that so it was the reason I didn't

555
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: say a single fucking word to anybody talking about all

556
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: he was was a rapist. To me, Hey, you know what, dog,

557
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 2: what can I tell you? Because Lord knows it? Like

558
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: to me, it's a big difference but when R. Kelly

559
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: dies or Bill Cosey dies, I'm not gonna be sitting

560
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: around feeling bad about the shit, you know what I mean.

561
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: So like, to some people, that's what the fuck he represented,

562
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not those people, and I don't have

563
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: to fucking engage with those people. I don't need to

564
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: defend this man's legacy or not. You know, I was

565
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: a big fan of his basketball player, and I thought

566
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: he became a really dope person off the court. But

567
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: I'll be damned if I'm about to spend out my energy,

568
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: you know, investing in arguing with motherfucker's online about it.

569
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was just a lot of a whole

570
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: week of I'm glad I was able to observe the

571
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: whole week before talking same and it's a lot what

572
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 2: allows you to process thing.

573
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing for me now I only

574
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to Kobe, but when it comes to

575
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: celebrities period, and we talked about it, is I don't

576
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: want to lose my humanity getting swept up in all

577
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: the bullshit online.

578
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people have lost.

579
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: Their humanity, They lost their compassion towards other human beings

580
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: and I refuse to lose that about myself. I want

581
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: to continue to have nuance, I want to continue to

582
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: have grace.

583
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: I want to continue to.

584
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: Have mercy towards other people that aren't like me and

585
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: don't look like me, and that I have this feeling

586
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: to protect, you know, like.

587
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: You say, everybody, we're we're complex creatures.

588
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: So everybody has like that one person, well you just

589
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: been like fuck them, you know. But at the same time,

590
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: even though you feel like that, it doesn't mean that

591
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: other people feel the same.

592
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: Way that you do. It's a choice you have to

593
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: make every day. And like one of the things too

594
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: about the COVID situation I realized was a lot of

595
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 2: people are angry at the horrible suddenness and unfairness of

596
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: death right this thing in our minds. His life played

597
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: out a certain way for us. He was supposed to

598
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 2: be an elder statesman. He was supposed to be a guy,

599
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: but grudgingly, you know, watching as everybody passed his records,

600
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: or enthusiastically as he turned out to be in real life.

601
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 2: But he was supposed to be here, and especially his

602
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 2: daughter was supposed to be here, and so it fucked

603
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: with everybody. It fucked with us. Everyone got mad. That's

604
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: why you got people walking around acting like that woman

605
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: said niggers purposely on national television while reporting on his death.

606
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: Everyone with a rational fucking mind knows that's ridiculous. Crract.

607
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: You know that didn't happen, but you were so upset.

608
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: There is no rational mind at that moment, you know

609
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: what I mean, We're fucking mad. Someone needs to pay, right.

610
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 2: And then I think, even for the people who were

611
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: this is just my belief system, and maybe I'm wrong,

612
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: even for the people who wanted to limit him to

613
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: a only thing he ever was in life to me

614
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: was a rapist. Even those people I think were mad

615
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: agreed because of the horrible unfairness of his death. He

616
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: was even supposed to be here for you to hate forever, right,

617
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 2: and now he's gone. I saw people partying like there

618
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 2: weren't other people in that fucking helicopter, Like, how about

619
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: you calm down, stop trying to get that viral tweet off,

620
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: how about you sit this one out for a second,

621
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: champ right, Like, so because of that, you were okay, well,

622
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: little kids done that was you don't like him that much? Right? No,

623
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: shut the fuck up, you don't have to be the

624
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: first one to say anything. You have to show up

625
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: to the way and piss on everybody. You can just

626
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 2: shut the fuck up. But you know what they were

627
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: really upset about is that other people were grieving this

628
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: man because they saw him as more than that. Correct,

629
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: because so many people's power is dedicated to limiting human

630
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: beings who are bigger than fucking thimbles, right, They're so

631
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: dedicated to limiting people to just this all they are,

632
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 2: and that's where they feel their own power comes from.

633
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: So that shit was lost because people cacked. For once

634
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 2: in the fucking and for once in the blue moon.

635
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: Everybody had to stop faking it, you know what I mean,

636
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: This is like my true belief. There's a lot of

637
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons I backed off of just

638
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: a lot of social media, a lot of interacting with

639
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 2: people I don't know, and shit, a lot of you know,

640
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: I don't really I've never done celebrity worship really, but

641
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: I backed away from a lot of that shit because

642
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 2: it's it's so fake. Once people understood that social media

643
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 2: was something that was like, it can become a revenue stream,

644
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: it could become a way to be famous, it could.

645
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: Once they figured that out, people started being fake, and

646
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: so his death was so unexpected. People slipped up and

647
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,479
Speaker 2: got off brand, and they couldn't be fake for a week.

648
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: It got too real, and you saw people really being like,

649
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: I ain't fucked up off of this. I didn't even

650
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: like this dude as a player, and I'm fucked up,

651
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: you know, I can't believe this has happened. Wow, my

652
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: whole fucking existence is shitting on men and how they

653
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: ain't nothing. And you know, every man is trash. And

654
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: here's a guy who's an admitted sexual assault and here

655
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: I am going, I'm sad for him, I'm sad for

656
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: his family. I'm the same person that just told y'all,

657
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: fuck fuck John McCain, anybody who loved his ass. I'm

658
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: the same person that just told y'all, you know, you know,

659
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: fuck fuck xx tentation. And here I am crying over

660
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: a flawed man. And because of the immediacy of social media,

661
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: people were able to relay those thoughts and it was

662
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 2: a collective moment. It got too real. You couldn't fake it,

663
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 2: you know, And this, this is the kind of stuff

664
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: that just doesn't happen that often. Where you can where

665
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: you have a moment like this, you know, and the

666
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: people that will try to go through the motions and

667
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: do that archival like look at where he fucked up shit.

668
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: People was like, hey, man, fuck you, I don't want

669
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: to hear that right now. Correct for the first time

670
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: and alone time, people got fucking real. You know, you

671
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 2: just couldn't wipe this away as I don't know anybody

672
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: like this, so fuck you, you know, and so you know,

673
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: men came up to me and told me, they cried,

674
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: grown ass men. I'm playing basketball with these dudes four

675
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 2: five times a week. It's about man, I cried, I was,

676
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: I was so fucked up over this. These men don't

677
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: talk about shit like that period now with me, But

678
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: that's how people were hurt. And I think if nothing

679
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: else comes from that moment, I wish that. I wish

680
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,959
Speaker 2: people could keep the reality of not faking that shit.

681
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: I wish we could keep that. We won't. I'm sure

682
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: people are already back to normal, but but I really

683
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: wish people could do that for a second, because so

684
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: much shit people just pretend it's black and white, and

685
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: if you have a little bit of understanding, you can

686
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: keep your convictions. You could keep your morality and still

687
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: be like, but I have my empathy. You can do that.

688
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: It's not one or the other, but it feels like

689
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 2: that's how it is to people. Yeah.

690
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: And also I know for me personally, I understand how

691
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: you know, people feel about certain people. And I think

692
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: for me, I had to look within myself and ask

693
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: myself why so many people don't ask themselves? Why does

694
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: Kanye West make you mad? Why does Kim Kandashian make

695
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 1: you mad? Why does Taylor Swift make you mad? Why

696
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't certain people come up? There's just a rage or

697
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: flame that just strikes within you that makes you mad.

698
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: You know. Is it because you've had this collective support

699
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: system of people that fucking hate him, so you felt like, hey,

700
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: I got to be over here with them. Or is

701
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 1: it because these people have done something directly to you

702
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: to impact your life. I'm not saying they have fucked up.

703
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that they are perfect.

704
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that at all. But for some people,

705
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: if they fucking breathe hard, you hear them fucking shopping

706
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: all over the timeline, there's something within you. Ask yourself,

707
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: why am I angry? Is there something broken in my life?

708
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: Is there some hurt and pain and my like that

709
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: I need to address. Do I need to talk to

710
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: my husband and my wife and my spouse and my kids.

711
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: Do I need to get something right withinside of me?

712
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: Because there's something inside of me, a hurt of pain.

713
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: There's something that's causing me to lash out, and I

714
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: don't know how.

715
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: To fix it.

716
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: So in order for me to fix it, I'll take

717
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: my pain and I project it towards something else, so

718
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: I don't have to look within to fix the things

719
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: that's within me. Some people want to fix themselves and

720
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: some people don't. If you don't, there's nothing I can

721
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: do for you.

722
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: But if you really want.

723
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: To want to find out why I feel like this

724
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: all the time? Why am I always mad or angry

725
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: or upset? You know, those are real questions and people

726
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: that asks themselves that, and people that have.

727
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: An understanding of why.

728
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: Because sometimes why it's not easy. Sometimes it might take

729
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: you a while to get to why. Sometimes you might

730
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: need therapy. Sometimes you might need to see a psychologist,

731
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: a psychiatrist. Sometimes you might need to get on medication,

732
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: you know. But though, but those are things that actually

733
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: guess what, you have to change something, but it's easier

734
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: for you to go You you change, you fix it,

735
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: You do whatever you need to do to make me

736
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: happy and please me, when that's not the cause rutle

737
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: of the problem. The problem is that you need to change.

738
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: That's work, and a lot of people are lazy. They

739
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: don't want to work. They're rather project than actually take

740
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: the time to fix the things within themselves. So for

741
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: me personally, I had to ask myself, you know, why

742
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 1: was I you had this this anger in my heart

743
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: towards Bernie Sanders? Why did I have this anger in

744
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: my heart towards leading them?

745
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: Leading?

746
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: Let them done them? I know, I tear your name up,

747
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: but that woman, you know, why did I have that

748
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: that that anger in my heart? And I had to

749
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: get to the rule of the problem. The rule of

750
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: the problem wasn't them, They've never done anything to me.

751
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: The rule of the problem was their fans and the

752
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: people that supported them was so fucking over the top

753
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: and goddamn whack that it drove me insane. And so

754
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: because of the people around them, I said, fuck them,

755
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: and then fuck you too. You know, but you shouldn't

756
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: do that, you know, because those individual people have done

757
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: nothing to.

758
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: You, you know.

759
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: So I had to question myself. I'm just keeping it real,

760
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: and ask myself, why do I feel like this? Some

761
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: of y'all have fought with Taylor Swift fans. Some of

762
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: y'all don't fought with people that you know, love Kim

763
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: kay and and Kanye West. Y'all fight with these people

764
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: all the time, and y'all think, well, since I'm fighting

765
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: with these people all the time, everybody must feel the

766
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: same way I do. And that's not true. That's not

767
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: true at all, you know. And Also what I realized

768
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: that once I looked and started analyzing shit and and

769
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: and going through and being truthful with myself and not

770
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: lying to myself and being real. And the biggest thing,

771
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: particularly Aveny with this Kobe shit, the biggest thing UH

772
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: people are afraid of is sitting in their motherfucking feelings.

773
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to sit in your goddamn feelings. Sometimes

774
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: you got to let the pain come. You got to

775
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: let the tears come, you got to let the anger come,

776
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: you got to let the sadness come. That you got

777
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: to let it come and sit in it and face

778
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: it and look at it out of eye and be like, hey.

779
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: What can I do to get rid of this?

780
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: But we live in a society where everything is a

781
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: dopamine fix and how high can I get? How good

782
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: can I feel? Versus you know, everything.

783
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: Can't be a high.

784
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes in life there's some lows, baby, But the thing

785
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: about the lows, you fix the lows.

786
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 2: You get the lows together, you can.

787
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: Have more highs and it be a true high, not

788
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: a temporary fix that can temporarily soothe the pain. Because

789
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: you know what Twitter and Facebook and all this stuff.

790
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: Yes it is a fix, and yes you temporarily feel better.

791
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: But when you log off, when you turn off your

792
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: phone and log off, all those feelings come back.

793
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: They come back.

794
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: They don't disappear, they don't go away just because you're

795
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: not on line. So you know, I am not telling

796
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: y'all anything that I haven't done.

797
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: And looked at myself.

798
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: So now I'm like, eh, it is what it is

799
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: with a lot of people. You know, I can have

800
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: a little bit more compassion and more understanding, and I

801
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: know a lot of times it makes people mad and upset,

802
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: and they right to the show asking, you know, why

803
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: don't we fucking burn everything down? Because we see them

804
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: as human beings, just like see you as a human being.

805
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: You person, you're a human being to You're flawed too.

806
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: Guess what. Everybody got fucked up family members? Everybody does.

807
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: Everybody got family members that that aren't woke and they don't.

808
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: Know the right words and the right things to say.

809
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: Everybody got family members, you know, in some way, shape

810
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: or form. Someone got family members that been to jail,

811
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: committed murders, actually has sexually assaulted children. A lot of

812
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,479
Speaker 1: us have these family members and we're connected to them,

813
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: but for some reason, we're supposed to we have compassion

814
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: for these people. We have sympathy for these people. Why

815
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: because I am related to them, they look like me. Well,

816
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: then why don't you extend the same compassion you get

817
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: your family mess? You don't kick your family members away.

818
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: You know some people do, now, don't get me wrong,

819
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: but a lot of you don't. Let's keep it for

820
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: a lot of you don't put your family members out

821
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: the front door just because they fucked up.

822
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: And sometimes you fucked up.

823
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: And guess what, your family members didn't put you out

824
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: the front door either. And so I understand that I'm flawed.

825
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: I understand that I'm not perfect. I understand that I

826
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: will never be perfect. I understand that I'm constantly growing.

827
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: I understand and this, and you need to understand this too.

828
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: We're all evolving. We all should be striving to be

829
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: better people. We should.

830
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: But like you say, it's that thing where I'm stuck.

831
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: So since I'm stuck, I'm going to be sure that

832
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: you're stuck and you never grow. I'm not growing in

833
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: my life. I'm angry. So every time you do something,

834
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a middle note so I can

835
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: constantly bring it up. Well, like I've said before, most

836
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: of us are the older people. We don't have the internet.

837
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: We don't have like TikTok and social media and all

838
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: this shit to actually go back and review like a tape,

839
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: every fucking thing we did.

840
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: We don't have that.

841
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: And because we don't have that, we can fake the

842
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: funk and play the game like we're absolutely fucking perfect.

843
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: But you're not. Go down your memory lane and in

844
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: your in your mind and remember that's the thing. Sometimes

845
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: we have a tendency to not remember, you know. That's

846
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: why sometimes some parents are very harsh on their children.

847
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: You know, they deal with social media, or they done,

848
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: they turn around, they last year their kids. But you

849
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: know what, you have to remember you were a child

850
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: one time too.

851
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: You fucked up too, you know so. I think for me,

852
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: that's why I have a lot of compassion.

853
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: I'm glad we took this week off because it gave

854
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: me time to reflect more and look within myself more.

855
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think also hitting on a couple of things

856
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: you said, they concentrate on changing these celebrities by I

857
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: quote unquote holding them accountable with their open letters and

858
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: petitions and shit that they'll never see. They concentrate on

859
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 2: that because they can't change themselves right or the shit.

860
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: Change yourself is harder than being like, I'm better than

861
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: so and so because I said that this celebrity is stupid, Right,

862
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 2: I'm better than this dude, I'm better than this person.

863
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that these people don't say stupid shit.

864
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you can't grandstand or be like, yo,

865
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: this is fucked up. That's not what I'm saying. But

866
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: I think the total cost of essentially being rewarded for

867
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 2: narcissistic behavior, like people keep saying, like people, oh use

868
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: the term narcissists too much everybody can't be a narcissist.

869
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: And you know what, I often thinking about it, I'm like,

870
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 2: maybe everybody's not a dig gnosed malignant narcissists, right, obviously

871
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: not right, That's that's a very rare circumstance most people.

872
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: But we have the tools to be narcissists. And social

873
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: media behavior is literally rewarding narcissistic behavior. It's telling you

874
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 2: that following somebody and their every single move is cool.

875
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 2: It's telling you, but essentially cybristarking these people it's cool.

876
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: It's telling you the second that they do something you

877
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: don't like, reach out because you can contact them, reach

878
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: out and let them know, I didn't like the thing

879
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: you said. I didn't like the thing you did. You know,

880
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 2: you can't just let them be human like you are, right,

881
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: Keep in mind, is not necessarily a reciprocal relationship. They

882
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: don't know who the fuck you are, what you do.

883
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 2: You could be killing babies in your fucking you know,

884
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: off time. They don't know. So you can project your image,

885
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: which is another thing narcissts do. They're very much about

886
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: projecting an image out to other people about what they

887
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 2: look like and how many that's everyone now yes, right,

888
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: it's your Instagram selfies. It's uh, you know, let me

889
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 2: take a trip. Let me take a picture of this

890
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: vacation I took. Let me take a picture of you know,

891
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: I lost some weight, and let me take a picture.

892
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 2: Let me take a picture of these clothes fit.

893
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: Well.

894
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: You know, we're not taking pictures of ourselves, you know,

895
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: disheveled or sitting around the couch with Cheetos on our chest.

896
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: That's not what that shit is for. So, you know,

897
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: we kind of have subconscious I believe, fed into this

898
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 2: this thing. And of course, you know, the ganging up

899
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 2: with people that don't like someone when you don't like them,

900
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 2: the you know kind of harassment that people do, not

901
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: of just celebrities, but of each other, because at this point,

902
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: aren't we all someone's celebrities. Isn't everybody who follows everybody

903
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 2: kind of in some weird way, someone like we're treating

904
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: them like a gold We're treating them not not like

905
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: a gold, but no like a product, like a product,

906
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: like product. This is this is my product, this is

907
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: my person that you know, I'm now consuming their life

908
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: in digital bits. And I think the core of this

909
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: that it reminds me is that the key to every narcissist,

910
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: and it's the hardest part for a lot of people

911
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: to understand and believe, is that narcissts hate themselves. That's

912
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: why they do this. They hate themselves. They are so,

913
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: they are so, they have so much animosity toward themselves

914
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: that they pour it into other people. They don't have

915
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: self worth. And I think when you have these moments

916
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: of just callous disregard and look at me, and look

917
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: at how much better I am than this person. When

918
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: you have these moments, and this is one of the

919
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: few I'm bringing up now because it's not gonna happen

920
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: again for a long time, but this is one of

921
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: the few times when people push back on that moment,

922
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: when when nah, nah, that's not right, that's not right.

923
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: This is a person that actively did better. It's a

924
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 2: person that changed their lives. It's a person that you know,

925
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: spoke out against their the mistakes they made and went

926
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: on to guy became somebody that ingratiated themselves back into society,

927
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: not not in a callous disregard way where it's like

928
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: this bitch line and I'm don't y'all believe her, and

929
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: I'm moving on, but in another way of a I

930
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,959
Speaker 2: perceived this situation to be one way and it wasn't

931
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: And this is how she perceived it, and she's not lying.

932
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: You know that kind of shit that people claim they want, right, Well,

933
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 2: I think when you hate yourself, none of it's good enough.

934
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 2: So I don't really get into whether someone apologizes and

935
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: we accept it or not. It's I laugh about it.

936
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: I make jokes about it because it doesn't really matter,

937
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 2: does it. No one ever lets go of anything that's

938
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: kind of the way it is. That's the new reality.

939
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: So it made me think about that, like where is that?

940
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: Like Karen brought it up, it's easier to tell them

941
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: to change and to change yourself even while you know

942
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: they're not. They're not listening to you, and they can't.

943
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 2: They're not gonna change that shit. But then that gives

944
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 2: you something to distract yourself from what from you hate yourself?

945
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: Dot that's what it is, all right. Let's getting the

946
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:09,959
Speaker 2: other news guys. Happened? Uh man, there's so much big news.

947
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: Lena Waite's marriage allegedly ended because she cheated on her wife.

948
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: Oh shit, yep. Earlier this evening. It was announced via

949
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: a joint statement that lean A Waite and her wife

950
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: Alana Mayo split after just two months since announcing their marriage.

951
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: They just too much.

952
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: They just got married.

953
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yes, the split scene to most sudden. The

954
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 2: most sources exclusively tell lovebiscott dot Com that their relationship

955
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 2: was on the rocks even before they tied to that. Yeah,

956
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: I mean, when you get divorced after two months, I

957
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: mean that that's kind of like that. That sounds like

958
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: one of those let's get married because it'll fix the

959
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: ship that's wrong with us, and oops, guess what it doesn't.

960
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: It doesn't actually amplifize it. I mean, I mean, did

961
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: the kind of get of the Nord. I mean, it's

962
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: lien in ninety days.

963
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: I don't, I'm don know the rules on that. Despite

964
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: their official union, Lina is alleged cheating continued. Uh see.

965
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: According to our sources, the quickie wait and came at

966
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 2: the multiple instances of Lena's infidelity. Lena went along with

967
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 2: it as a way to play kate Alana and salvage

968
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: their relationship. Even after they were married, Lena was still

969
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 2: buying designer give Chanelle and Gucci for other women. Yeah, well,

970
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: I can see Uh, how that would not be good,

971
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 2: not be able to work that out. So yeah, that's

972
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: that's wild, you know. So uh, I remember thinking about

973
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:43,479
Speaker 2: how how it was. You know, like so many people

974
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: will kind of paint Lina and like the woke blah

975
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: blah blah. But you know, people human, you know, they're

976
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 2: not They're not avatarsing our flawless like you could be

977
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,479
Speaker 2: for all that speaking all that woke shit and talking

978
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 2: about Will Smith and Denzel ain't doing enough and all

979
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: this other shit and then just be cheating on your

980
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: on your wife. Vinzelle and Will been married to the

981
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: same women for a long period of time. You know,

982
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: maybe they made it through infidelities or whatever. I don't know,

983
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: but you just it's just it's crazy how it's so

984
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: easy to focus on these other people and not be

985
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: handling your own shit.

986
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: Man.

987
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: Anyway, I guess all black love does end in tragedy.

988
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: It's not just clean the slim guys. Gabrielle Union post

989
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: subliminal tweets following Terry Crew's comments regarding claim she was

990
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: fired from America's Got Talent. So I actually saw some

991
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: of the clip. It was a show, which I believe

992
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: is NBC's show.

993
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and affiliated or something like that.

994
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that Today's Show is NBC. And I

995
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 2: think also America Got Talent is NBC. They are so,

996
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously not a good The combination to go

997
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 2: to for a neutral source here is kind of rewarding

998
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: one person. Yeah, I mean, what do you expect the

999
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: guy who works for the other company to do? You know?

1000
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 2: So they bring them on, is that they're just like

1001
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: having a conversation. Now you would think the purpose of

1002
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: this conversation is cross promotion, right, It's going on the

1003
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: Today Show to be like, hey, America got talent, I

1004
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: work for them. It's a great environment or whatever. Not

1005
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 2: even great environment. Check out the show. It's a commercial,

1006
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: big ass commercial, right, And so he goes on that

1007
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 2: for the third hour, and they asked him straight to

1008
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: his face about Gabrielle Union, which I gotta I gotta say, like,

1009
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: isn't that Like, isn't it not? Okay?

1010
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: Do not actually the white people?

1011
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 2: Not just that, but isn't there an investigation happening involving

1012
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: NBC and involving and you worked for the station? Yeah, Like,

1013
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 2: how was the any Before we get to Terry Crews

1014
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 2: How was any of this ever okay with anyone? How

1015
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: how did this get past everybody that do you know

1016
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: what I mean?

1017
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 1: Man that just supervisor was like, don't y'all ask that bullshit? Yeah,

1018
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: it just seemed like because we're getting sued, including you,

1019
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: the whole network, we're getting sued, and it's.

1020
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: Also this thing too that happens and and you know,

1021
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: luckily I've just never been involved in something just level.

1022
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 2: But what maybe I just don't understand, But like, what

1023
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: the fuck doesn't matter if the general public size is

1024
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: you or Gabrielle Union in a situation like this, particularly

1025
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 2: like they're either gonna keep watching the show or they're not.

1026
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: So why are you running pr about this thing? It's

1027
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 2: not like a quarter law. An investigation is gonna find

1028
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: whatever the investigation finds. So what is the point other

1029
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: than to literally like to dismiss her in public and

1030
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: to have this prominent black man you know, as the

1031
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: voice for that, you know. So so to me, just

1032
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: the before we get into his comments, the general attempt

1033
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: was disgusting to me.

1034
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, shouldn't even been asked, you know, like.

1035
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: Because because because it just seems, I don't know, it

1036
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: seems so transparent what they're trying to do. Now, I

1037
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 2: do have the clip of the interview. I'll see if

1038
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: I can play it for you guys. Okay, maybe even

1039
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: put it on screen. You know, my computer might be

1040
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 2: pushing it to put it the ship on screen, but

1041
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 2: I won't try it out.

1042
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: The Gabriel union controversy, of course, there are reports that

1043
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 1: her contract wasn't renewed because she reported.

1044
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,959
Speaker 2: A toxic atmosphere existed at the show.

1045
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 3: You're at the show?

1046
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: Is there a toxic atmosphere? Keep in mind on this

1047
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: stage are three black men because our brokers there. I

1048
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 2: forget the other dude's name it whatever. The other black

1049
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 2: dude who's asking the question is there, and then Terry

1050
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 2: Crews like horrible looks optically from jump. There's two other

1051
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 2: people there, two women, but clearly they're not being asked

1052
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: this question or I think one is a white woman.

1053
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure the other one might be a sister

1054
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: because this, uh, this resolution on this ain't that great.

1055
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: On this clip, I mean Craig Melvin. Craig Melvin, Yeah,

1056
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: that's his name. So it's just a bad.

1057
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 3: N't speak for sexism because I'm not a woman, but

1058
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 3: I can't speak on behalf of any racism comments. That

1059
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: was never my experience on America's Got Talent. In fact,

1060
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 3: it was the most diverse place I have ever been

1061
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: in my twenty years of entertainment. The top ten acts

1062
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 3: were Asian women, older, younger, black, white. It was everything

1063
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 3: in the gamut. Now I have to say this too,

1064
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 3: when you look at what the allegations are about, it

1065
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 3: was given by name source. My thing is, you know,

1066
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 3: it's funny, because I believe you should listen to women.

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00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: You should always believe women. So I asked my wife

1068
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 3: what I should do, and she was like, first of all,

1069
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 3: if it's coming from an unnamed source, because Gabrielle Union

1070
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Speaker 3: has not made any statement to this day about any

1071
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 3: of these allegations publicly, so she's to her, I have

1072
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 3: not I have reached out, but I have not heard anything.

1073
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 3: And so my thing was my wife said, well, if

1074
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 3: she hasn't made a statement, why would you, And I said,

1075
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna listen to her.

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00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: We should have mentioned an NBC is still in and

1077
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: that they have said they will put new practices into

1078
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Speaker 1: place if necessary.

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Speaker 2: We didn't get a chance to talk to about Brooklyn nineteen. Yeah,

1080
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: it's since it didn't say nothing. She probably smart as one.

1081
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 2: The thing I found interest in there. He he did

1082
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: this thing where he's like, I look believe women. So

1083
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: I asked my wife, Gabriel, you a woman, so you know,

1084
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: and it's like I always say about the hastag believe women.

1085
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: You believe the women? Do you believe the women that

1086
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: you like? Or you believe the women that you know?

1087
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: Do you think I'm telling the truth. Nobody just blatantly

1088
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: just obviously believes women because women be saying the opposite. Shit.

1089
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 2: Not everybody, not every woman's It's not a monolitht so,

1090
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 2: so one person could be telling you one thing and

1091
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: if someone else tell you something else, and you're gonna

1092
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: believe the person you want to or try to, you know,

1093
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: whoever justifies the best. But it's not some bride sweeping

1094
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: thing where it's like, oh, believe women. That's not true.

1095
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: And to say, like my wife said, well, your wife

1096
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 2: said not to put out a statement. What was that

1097
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 2: cause it sounds like saying I can't speak to sexism.

1098
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: But racially, these accusations don't even make sense because it's

1099
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: such a great place to work. Literally is saying a statement.

1100
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then not talking about the acted one working environment.

1101
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: Right right, And she was talking about diversity behind behind

1102
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 2: the camera, not in front of it. She's talking about

1103
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 2: decision makers. She's talking about the stuff that happened with

1104
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: her hair being quote unquote too black too or whatever.

1105
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: She's talking about decisions that they were making on picking uh,

1106
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: some of these contestants, and the reasoning for them in

1107
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: the room, Well, America can't we can't get behind a

1108
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: hip hop active. They want to see a black kid rappid,

1109
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 2: you know, ship like that. But she's like that cleans

1110
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: racist Jay Leno making a racist Asian, you know, like

1111
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: what does that have to do with the diversity in

1112
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: front of the camera, you know, like behind the camera, Yeah,

1113
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 2: in front of the camera, Like like you're you're completely

1114
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 2: changing it. And so I thought about it at first

1115
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 2: because I was like, you know, I really truly believe

1116
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: Terry Crews is one of those people that did not

1117
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 2: ask for all us. I remember a long time ago

1118
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 2: when we first started the show, playing a clip of

1119
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: Terry Crews talking about why he don't masturbate to watch

1120
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 2: porn in us, yes, laughing at how ridiculous this dude was,

1121
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: and like, you know all this, I remember that that

1122
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 2: dude does not. He didn't become a different dude because

1123
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: he got groped by that that agent, like it didn't

1124
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 2: and now he's some woke scholar. What it made me

1125
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: think about was how much people put stock into him

1126
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: because they needed a hero and now he's letting him

1127
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,479
Speaker 2: down because I'm not that hero.

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01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: Yeah right, you needed a mascot or as symbol to

1129
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: beat people the head with.

1130
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like what you want here is how Terry

1131
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 2: Crews and the black feminists people that supported him online

1132
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: was a marriage of convenience. He didn't have support from

1133
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: his Hollywood peers, some of them with that agent like

1134
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: Adam Sandler, SYVESTERI Stallone taking him out of expendables and

1135
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 2: shit like that. People literally threatening him telling him chill

1136
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 2: the fuck out. I think it was. I think even

1137
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 2: Russell Simmons emailed him or some shit like that. I

1138
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 2: can't remember all the details off the top of my head,

1139
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: but he was completely disavowed and abandoned by his his

1140
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 2: peer group. So here come black women online being like,

1141
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: hold up, now, we find it interesting that you guys

1142
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: have been making all these because they've been arguing back

1143
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: and forth with these these dudes online, and they've been

1144
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 2: making the case of like, well, y'all don't care what

1145
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 2: it's a man. Well, now we get here's an example

1146
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: of us caring. Here's a man rave enough to come forward,

1147
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 2: and here's us caring. And you got a lot of

1148
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: black men push back on that, a lot of white men,

1149
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 2: a lot of people in general like somehow terry crewser

1150
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: look at this little bit y ouat here complain in

1151
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 2: and all this. You know I would have why he

1152
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 2: ain't knock them out? You know that kind of shit?

1153
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 2: You had that. And so in the midst of this,

1154
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: this man is just an avatar. He's just the mascot,

1155
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: like Karen said, that's all he becomes for them. He's

1156
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: not no one gives a fuck about literally, like really,

1157
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 2: no one gives a fuck about him personally correct, whatever

1158
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: his actual life is. Like no, no, you're a symbol

1159
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 2: now for we needed a symbol, you know, and now

1160
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: you became. So it's a marriage of convenience and he

1161
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 2: needed support. So he accepted the support, and then he

1162
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 2: readily rushed out there and said, oh, thank you to

1163
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: all the black women that had my back. Only black

1164
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: women believe me, he added Gabrielle Union on Twitter back

1165
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 2: in back when the shit popped off. It's one of

1166
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 2: the few people that believed him and supported him unabashedly.

1167
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 2: And now we fast forward to this shit and he

1168
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 2: could not wait to be like, I mean, I'm not

1169
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 2: saying she's lying, but I'm saying she's lying essentially, you know.

1170
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Speaker 1: To you as I say, I don't. I can't speak

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01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: on sexism.

1172
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: Right, I can't speak on sexism, but racism, which is

1173
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: a huge part of what she was bringing up. This

1174
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: is the greatest place to ever work, So she I

1175
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: don't know what the hell she talking about, and it's

1176
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: from an unnamed source, so like, well, how can we

1177
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: ever know? It's? Like, well, because NBC and her supposedly

1178
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: agreed to not be out here talking, right, So like

1179
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: to see this coordinated attack from NBC held by a

1180
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 2: face of black man, it's fucking disgusting. You know. If

1181
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this moment all week, it reminded

1182
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: me of Damon Wayne's stand up, A very underrated stand up,

1183
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 2: by the way, but Dami Wayne's standing.

1184
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 4: Peop want to smooth some shit over there, Go get

1185
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 4: prech nigga and put you on TV to represent the people?

1186
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 4: You know?

1187
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: Have you asked me questions like, damon, now that you

1188
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: made this thirteen million.

1189
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 2: Dollars and accounting.

1190
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: That you've made all this money, let me ask Let

1191
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: me just throw this out of you respond any way

1192
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: you want.

1193
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 2: Is there racism in America?

1194
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 4: You'd be sitting there thinking about that paycheck talking about no, sir,

1195
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 4: if there is.

1196
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: I ain't cheating none, Listen, I thought of that immediately.

1197
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 2: I ain't seeking on well, I thought of that immediately

1198
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: when this was talking and put you on TV. Have

1199
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 2: you asked your questions like? But yeah, I thought of

1200
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: that immediately.

1201
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: And it's almost not fair to him because him speaking

1202
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: out on it. You don't know what kind of clause

1203
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: or agreement that that's what finn of y'all might be breaking.

1204
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: You don't know what kind of documentation that they may

1205
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: have signed to say, y'all will talk at your network, don't.

1206
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 2: Talk like like who and they might not ever do it.

1207
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: But whoever the manager supervisor did it allowed that question

1208
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: should be fired.

1209
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:12,919
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. It's sucking ridiculous, right, And so she went

1210
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: out and tweeted some things. People first started tweeting hers

1211
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 2: and support you know nothing but love for you. Got

1212
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: you lolu blah bah blah. And so she responded to

1213
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 2: the fans sweet words, saying thank you cuz girl truth telling,

1214
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 2: wanting change and having multiple witnesses who bravely came forward

1215
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: to let everyone know I didn't lie. Exaggerate really exposes

1216
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 2: those who enthusiastically will throw you under the bus forgetting

1217
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 2: quickly who stepped up for their turn their truth. Union

1218
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 2: didn't name any names, but come on the end of

1219
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 2: her tweet left fans assuming she was referring to when

1220
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: she supported Terry Crews during his sexual assault allegations back

1221
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, and the tweet at that time she wrote,

1222
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 2: some people will never get it, but not for a

1223
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 2: lack of info or first accounts, but due to willful

1224
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 2: ignorance and fear they see themselves somewhere in the account

1225
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 2: has to add me too. Union continued to question Cruise

1226
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 2: motives in response to another fan. While anyone would gleefully

1227
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 2: get up on TV and tell lies that no one disputed,

1228
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 2: but we already know, can someone please ask about what

1229
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: happens to all the diversity folks are talking about behind

1230
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 2: the scenes light legit, Where the hell is that diversity

1231
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 2: in the production throw though Homie and the decision making

1232
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: ranks who control the fate of the diversity in front

1233
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: of the camera continue. She also addressed the fact that

1234
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: an agreement was made for everyone to stay quiet to

1235
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 2: NBC completed investigation regarding the incident, writing man, we all

1236
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 2: agreed to let the investigation be completed before speaking. But

1237
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: if we're doing this, old baby, let's go right.

1238
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, somebody needs to lose upper management,

1239
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: needs to lose the job for the simple fact that discord.

1240
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 2: He shouldn't never been asked that question. He shouldn't even

1241
01:07:55,480 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 2: that's one. It shouldn't have been asked too, if they

1242
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 2: do ask you that question. Because I thought about this

1243
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: because I think, you know, for a lot of us,

1244
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: you know, we don't have media training, and it's just

1245
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 2: kind of easy to be like, well, he was in

1246
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 2: a tough situation. What was he supposed to say? What

1247
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 2: if his experience was great, he gotta lie and be

1248
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: like my experience was terrible? Because I support Gabby, right,

1249
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 2: And I thought about that shit for real, and I

1250
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 2: thought like, what if I had a great experience on

1251
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: the set of the show, and I know that Gabby

1252
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 2: didn't is saying she didn't, and she's accusing the show

1253
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 2: of a lot of stuff, and you know what, I

1254
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: think you can kind of find the middle ground of

1255
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 2: being like And keep in mind, this is not to

1256
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 2: please Black Twitter or whatever. They're gonna be pissing no

1257
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: matter what you say. But I'm saying like the middle

1258
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 2: ground for me would have been something to the effect

1259
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: of I understand that there's an ongoing investigation between, you know,

1260
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: with Gabriel Union and the show. I can't speak to

1261
01:08:55,479 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 2: her experience on the show. I can only speak to mine,

1262
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 2: and you know I have had uh you know, I've

1263
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 2: been treated well on the show. I still support Gabby

1264
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 2: and I hope that, you know, they can find some

1265
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 2: type of conclusion to whatever, you know, maybe they maybe

1266
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 2: I hope they reach amicable admicable conclusion or I hope

1267
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 2: that I would support whatever the investigation finds something like

1268
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 2: that and move the fuck on. That's it. You don't

1269
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 2: have to actually be like no sun if it in

1270
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 2: the nine see nothing. You don't even have to do

1271
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 2: all that.

1272
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: You could have said, no comment. There's a lot of

1273
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: ways around that.

1274
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't you can even go don't ask me that

1275
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 2: ship because a lot of times they like a lot

1276
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: of times they actually allowed certain well certain levels to start,

1277
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 2: maybe not one, but you they'll actually tell you like,

1278
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 2: this is what we're gonna say in the interview. You know,

1279
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 2: do you object to any of this? And even be like,

1280
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 2: I don't ask me nothing about Gabrielle Union, like I

1281
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't want to end up saying some

1282
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: shit that's gonna fuck that up for her or not,

1283
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 2: you know. And then he goes on Twitter because and

1284
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 2: this is why I really started thinking about the whole

1285
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 2: thing with Terry Crews. I was like, Oh, he's going

1286
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 2: on Twitter because he's seeing that he got roasted and

1287
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: that he's continually being roasted. Just now his third or

1288
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 2: fourth time saying something to get roasted, probably more than that,

1289
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 2: to be honest, I remember when he said that shit

1290
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 2: about like kids need a dad and a mom or

1291
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 2: else they don't get all the multi vitamins or some bullshit.

1292
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 2: So anyway, my point being, he can't turn off the

1293
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 2: bird on his own phone. And so because because let's

1294
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 2: be frank, he's in a position where he could just

1295
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 2: delete Twitter and Facebook and Instagram or have somebody else

1296
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: manage it for him and go about making white people

1297
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 2: money and be absolutely fucking fine and be fine. He look,

1298
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, These fucking celebrities don't know

1299
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 2: that these motherfuckers don't like them.

1300
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: M M.

1301
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 5: Don't give a fuck about y'all quote unquote holding them

1302
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 5: goddamn accountable.

1303
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 2: Right, They all here living their best life. Someone you

1304
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 2: know post for them their Instagram and they never see

1305
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 2: the motherfucking comments of any of the shit people say.

1306
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 2: If they do, it is the glowing ones.

1307
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: You know, they are posting pictures of it, of their

1308
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: feet and eating fancy me is not giving a fuck

1309
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: about none of y'all.

1310
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 2: Right, But he was hurt by the response to his

1311
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 2: He wants to control the whole thing, and he was

1312
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 2: used to these people supporting him. He's used to being

1313
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: told gently like no, no, Terry, And even when he's

1314
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 2: fucked up in the past, there's always been people who,

1315
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 2: because they needed that mascot, are like, well hold up now,

1316
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 2: maybe if you look at it this way, or Terry

1317
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 2: just don't know, you know, stuff like that. But it's

1318
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 2: all for that agenda, right, well, now people are like,

1319
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 2: you directly came in a black woman and guess what.

1320
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 2: Gabriel Union is one of like black Twitter feminist gods.

1321
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 2: You can't fucking come at her dog, And she went

1322
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 2: from the woman that's old Dwayne Wade to like the

1323
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: woke goddess. You can't fucking do it. It's not you're

1324
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 2: not gonna win that online competition, not that one. If

1325
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: you go at the queen doll, you best not miss.

1326
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: And so he went on on Twitter, trying to act

1327
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 2: like he was unbothered. I'm a hog, you're a chicken.

1328
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 2: Just because you gave me eggs don't mean I owe

1329
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: you bacon. What. Now that's some real country nigga shit.

1330
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 2: But I speak that, Okay.

1331
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: I had to think about dad, I had to analyze that.

1332
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, I get it. I speak that. Well. He

1333
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 2: trying to say, is just because you have my back

1334
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 2: on this sexual assault thing, don't mean I have to

1335
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 2: have yo. I owe you to have your back on

1336
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 2: while you're sowing the show I'm on. That's what he said,

1337
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 2: now he but he said in a metaphor way where

1338
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 2: he can be like, you know, hey, just cause y'all

1339
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: black feminists have my back. Don't mean I gotta have

1340
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 2: y'all back. I gotta agree with everything y'all say. He

1341
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 2: didn't want to come out and say that plainly, so

1342
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 2: he said it that way, to which I said, hm,

1343
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 2: another example, you could have said nothing at all. If

1344
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 2: it's bothering you that you're not winning Twitter, you gotta

1345
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 2: delete Twitter. You're not gonna win it. And then a

1346
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: few hours later he also tweeted about there is only

1347
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: one woman on earth, one woman on earth I have

1348
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 2: to please. Her name is Rebecca, not my mother, my sister.

1349
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 2: My daughters are my coworkers. I will let their husband's

1350
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 2: boyfriends and partners take care of them. Rebecca gives me wings.

1351
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she told you as not to say a word,

1352
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: but you didn't listen to her, right.

1353
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 2: And you knew that before they asked you. Mm hmm.

1354
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 2: This is just the Terry crew stock is plumbing. It's

1355
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 2: at an all time though right now. But yeah, he

1356
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 2: turned it into that, and then finally, after he got

1357
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 2: roasted for a few more days, he apologized.

1358
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:50,799
Speaker 1: Yeh, didn't nobody want to hear about Then.

1359
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 2: He went on Twitter. Yeah, I said you know what

1360
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 2: I you know what I said when I read that apology.

1361
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I read the tweets. It's

1362
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: actually a good it's a good apology, the series of tweets.

1363
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 2: It's a good apology. I hope. I hope for yourself.

1364
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 2: You meant it sincerely from the bottom of your heart,

1365
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 2: and you're gonna change your actions and become a better person.

1366
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 2: I really do see. I do caring. Only time will tell,

1367
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 2: but listen, but listen, I do care. You know why

1368
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 2: I do because nobody want to hear that ship. So

1369
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 2: I hope it was for you. I hope it wasn't

1370
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: for me. I hope it wasn't for these people on Twitter.

1371
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 2: I hope it even went for Gabriel Union because we don't.

1372
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 2: Nobody want to hear this ship. Terry, mm hmmm mm hmm. Baby,

1373
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 2: the ship has sailed. Okay, yeah, you double down and

1374
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: burned the boat bon Voyage. Okay, they have Christian that

1375
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 2: motherfucking ship named it and the ssh whatever your wife's name.

1376
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 2: That ship is already in the motherfucker Bermuda triangle somewhere.

1377
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 2: It's gone in that triangle. You you over here froat

1378
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 2: no pieces. The US as forgiveness is out that motherfucker

1379
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 2: missing missing. Don't nobody know what happened to it? It's

1380
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 2: it's Gabriel lu Gabriel you. I want you to know

1381
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: it was never myog, my attention and validate your experience.

1382
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 2: But that is what I did. I apologize setting a

1383
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: series of tweets. You've been through a lot in this business,

1384
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 2: and with that I empathized with the struggle towards fairness

1385
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 2: equality in the workplace. I can't speak you, no, no, we

1386
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 2: already talked about that part. Uh, he's this is my

1387
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:41,560
Speaker 2: favorite part, y'all. He also added Kevin Hart, who was

1388
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 2: minding his motherfucking business. What he added? Kevin Hart? He said,

1389
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 2: what the fuck I got to do with this? Mm hmmm.

1390
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 2: He said that he told Kevin Hard last year that

1391
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 2: you need to acknowledge the pain of other people. He said,

1392
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 2: right now, I have to do the same thing. And

1393
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 2: I realized that a lot of other a lot of

1394
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: black women hurt and let die by what I said,

1395
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 2: also by what I didn't say. I hear you, I

1396
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 2: respect you and understand you. I'm sorry. I'm here to

1397
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 2: support you. He called Gabriy Gaby Union a role model

1398
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 2: to the entire black community. At the very least, he

1399
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 2: should have understand you just needed my support.

1400
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 1: This might have been a private conversation that Kevin Hart might.

1401
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 2: Not have won down the public. I don't know if

1402
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 2: it's private the public, but I know Kevin don't need

1403
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 2: no more problems. This nigga giving me problems by product, Like,

1404
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 2: I all, shoot, product, I'm not going down but myself. Kevin,

1405
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 2: you want some of these he too diagonal problems Like

1406
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 2: don't you know these niggas don't fuck with me either?

1407
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 2: Like Black Feminist twittered on fuck with Kevin Hart. You

1408
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 2: know the other thing that made me think about too man,

1409
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 2: And this is when I actually low key was off

1410
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 2: of Terry Crews and it happened on something so subtle

1411
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 2: and I'm sure most people wouldn't wouldn't have jumped off

1412
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 2: at this point, but this is you know, I told

1413
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 2: you this one. I don't know if it's in private

1414
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 2: or on the show, but I told you this when

1415
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 2: that shit happened, when that motherfucker start acting to Rika

1416
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 2: the sheet, Yeah, I said, Oh, he's gone too far

1417
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 2: down the black Twitter rabbit hole. I said, like, m no, bro,

1418
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 2: like what are you doing? No one can stop those

1419
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 2: people like all you did was help him because they

1420
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,560
Speaker 2: like they get off on the higher level of recognition

1421
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 2: that they get, Like his dream would be like President

1422
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 2: Obama tweeting at him like everybody's like, oh, finally this

1423
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 2: black man can reach him. No, no one can reach

1424
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 2: him because he's doing it on purpose, Like no one

1425
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 2: can reach Tommy Lauren. No one's gonna be able to

1426
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 2: reach and culture. You just gotta treat these people the

1427
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 2: same way you treat you know those people, like leave

1428
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 2: them the fuck alone. Hello, Everything you do elevates their platform.

1429
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 2: They're the board. They're never gonna let it go. And

1430
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 2: if you react to it, they love that. That's why

1431
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 2: they participate in all that shit. You just gotta leave

1432
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 2: it alone. Bruh. And I said, Oh, he really deep

1433
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 2: into black Twitter, because bruh, you're not. You're not supposed

1434
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 2: to have time to be doing this, Like, and let

1435
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 2: me while I'm here, let me tell you what something

1436
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 2: else to read the sheet. I'm like, bruh, what are

1437
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 2: you doing the whoever game?

1438
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 1: Memorizing scripts for the next season the Brooklyn nine nine?

1439
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 2: Right? Whoever gave you that idea is dumb? And then

1440
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 2: the other part of it bruh, your you work so hard,

1441
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 2: you have so much work. White people don't even know

1442
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 2: about this shit. No, it's not even that goddamn red on.

1443
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 2: White people don't care about to reading she black Twitter

1444
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 2: any of this shit. All you doing is risking yos,

1445
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 2: like risking your mental health for what for some niggas

1446
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 2: online that don't care, don't give a fuck. He just

1447
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: he had a spark where he started.

1448
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: But he's, honey, I'm trying to tell y'all we get

1449
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 1: to that place, honey, I will probably end up handing

1450
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: my account.

1451
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 2: Oh and be like, y'all know what y'all take care

1452
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 2: of is. Then Vlad TV had an interview with Nick

1453
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 2: Cannon where he talked by having Gabrielle Union is black

1454
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 2: because he he also left America's Got Talent. Remember that

1455
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,759
Speaker 2: he did a while ago. Yeah, made this like hotel

1456
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 2: statement about need to be free and shit, and now

1457
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,560
Speaker 2: look at it now he now, now we've reached the

1458
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 2: point of the program where Nick Cannon is.

1459
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 1: The hero and Nick Cannon is the hero.

1460
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, Terry Crews, you made as possible. I have

1461
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 2: not seen somebody fuck up that much good will in

1462
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 2: a long time, a very long time, like every he

1463
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 2: was everybody's hero to the literally people like are like

1464
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 2: fuck Terry Crews. And that happened within a year. I

1465
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 2: seen it riting on the wall. But damn it still

1466
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 2: sucks anyway. Good luck to everybody over there.

1467
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: Beautiful gowns to you all. Uh.

1468
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 2: Kobe died and t I apologized to his daughters in

1469
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 2: the wake of that. Oh Kobe's death, I'm glad, uh,

1470
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: he said, I love you girls. One of my vocabulary

1471
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 2: will allow me to express, which.

1472
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: How he's vocabulations morning TI vocabulary.

1473
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 2: Oh that runs deep, I feel. I mean, that's a

1474
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 2: lot of love. Yea, it is okay, cause you know,

1475
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 2: ta he would make up a word or add some words,

1476
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 2: or say some words that make you be like, I

1477
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 2: didn't know that was a word. I didn't know you

1478
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 2: could combine those it is with humble magnanimity. And you're like,

1479
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 2: is that? Let me google that. It sounds like it's right,

1480
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,839
Speaker 2: but it might not be. He he ran out of words.

1481
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 2: I love you girls. One of my vocabulary will allow

1482
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 2: me to express. You have grown so much right before

1483
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,839
Speaker 2: my very eyes and blossoming in the strong, brilliantly opinionated, independent,

1484
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 2: young women. So proud of you both, and I love

1485
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 2: you to know end more than you ever know. Please

1486
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 2: forgive me for any of all my imperfections that Cosmes

1487
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 2: understands between us, charge my mind, not my heart. Life

1488
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 2: may throw us curve balls and deal us some pretty

1489
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 2: bad hard hands at times, but that's assured you'll never

1490
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 2: find yourself in a place too high low for me

1491
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 2: to be there to catch you when you fall. Oh

1492
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 2: the sweet the father did say you refuse to let

1493
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 2: another second go by without telling his daughters how much

1494
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 2: he loves him. He also supposed to messages dedicated to

1495
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 2: his wife, Tamika Tany Harris, and his four sons, in

1496
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 2: addition to numerous tribute tributes Honor and Kobe and gg uh. Yeah.

1497
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 2: So that one really that one really hit him in

1498
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 2: the heart.

1499
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think for a lot of people they

1500
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: started thinking, oh shit, you know people the flying planes

1501
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: all the time, he's with your fanasy with their children

1502
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: all the time, and made them and a lot of shit.

1503
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 2: And Kobe is quote unquote around our age.

1504
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: So for a lot of people, they are like, this

1505
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: shit could have been me, And it made them kind

1506
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: of reevaluate this shit. And at the end of the day,

1507
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: you realize all this, this, this team Pader, that shit

1508
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 1: don't matter. It don't because when you leave here you

1509
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: can't take none of that bullshit with you.

1510
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe brought up in the chat room. Could he

1511
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 2: do this in private?

1512
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 1: Uh?

1513
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 2: Maybe he did. We don't know. Two, I mean, couldn't

1514
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: we do this podcast? Couldn't me and Kenri just talk

1515
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 2: in the back of the room of my house without

1516
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 2: recording and putting this out to nobody? Like, come on, man,

1517
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 2: it's kind of he's a public figure. It's kind of

1518
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 2: what he does. It's what everybody does. Is they Instagram

1519
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 2: to be we being real? Uh, like everybody's Instagram or Twitter, Facebook,

1520
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 2: It is all ship. We could have kept in our brains,

1521
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 2: but we share with people everybody. I don't mind that. Also,

1522
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 2: it reminds me of a lot of men that I

1523
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 2: saw that made public displays of using the hashtag girl

1524
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 2: dads and publicly loving on their daughters and talking about

1525
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 2: how much they love their daughters and stuff, and to

1526
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 2: a certain extent, it was very cute, you know, and

1527
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 2: especially with black daughters and stuff. It's just not something

1528
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 2: you see done very often, you know. So I could

1529
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 2: see that in uh, the same way that his death

1530
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 2: affected strangers. I mean, TI y'all probably met Kobe or something.

1531
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 2: T y'all probably has closer proximity to Kobe than any

1532
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 2: of us do, and it may have affected him in

1533
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 2: his life and made him look a shit differently. And honestly,

1534
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 2: you just don't know what the fuck make people wake up.

1535
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 2: We can be resentful of the fact that they didn't

1536
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 2: just get it automatically, but I got a feeling that

1537
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 2: nobody that's on this woke shit got it automatically. Something happened,

1538
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 2: Something happened. It was a conversation, a series of conversation,

1539
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 2: It was an event, a series of events. It was

1540
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 2: something that made you be like, oh, yeah, the way

1541
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 2: I looked at this was fucked up, you know what

1542
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 2: I mean. So, and I think obviously we project onto

1543
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 2: these celebrities, which you know, feels like that's the word

1544
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 2: of the day. But we project onto these celebrities, especially

1545
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 2: when we don't like them, what we want, just like

1546
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 2: Kobe got. The only thing he ever was the music

1547
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: rapist for TII. Only thing TII is for a lot

1548
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 2: of people is a womanist, a misogynist. The guy who

1549
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 2: said you know, he's checking hoymens and that's all he's

1550
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 2: ever gonna be. And to admit that this was a

1551
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: sweet thing, to admit that maybe this is an awakening moment,

1552
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,759
Speaker 2: possibly would be up to ease off of the gas

1553
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 2: on the fuck to your train. And ain't nobody trying

1554
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 2: to do that, you know? But anyway, I'm not gonna

1555
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 2: assume the worst as well as with all this shit,

1556
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,879
Speaker 2: I mean to be frank, even with them girl dad posts,

1557
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 2: if the default was you weren't really out here like

1558
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 2: that for your daughter in the first place, right, you

1559
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 2: don't go back to normal, Like one moment is not

1560
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 2: necessarily gonna change anything. Yeah, So I hope that, you know,

1561
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 2: I hope he's able to do that, you know what

1562
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 2: I mean. So, Yeah, I struggle with public displays of

1563
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 2: affection on social because it feels like cloud chasing. Yeah,

1564
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 2: I guess. But let's talk about that. Actually, let's talk

1565
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 2: about that. I like that you brought that up, regular Jay.

1566
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 2: So for a couple of reasons, Like one, our socials now,

1567
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 2: we we have a lot of public shit there and

1568
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 2: part of what social media is is gonna be by

1569
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 2: design somewhat cloud chasing. Right, Yeah, you know, if you

1570
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 2: if you if you bought some shoes, if you're fucking

1571
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 2: ate a nice meal. Soone can always Yeah, the impulse

1572
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 2: of sharing that with other people is always gonna be

1573
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 2: partially to for for the cloud of it. I guess

1574
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 2: you can call it that. You know, it's a majority

1575
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 2: of way to put it, but that's you can. You

1576
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 2: can do that as people that do this podcast that

1577
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 2: ended with I love you, uh, like that's a choice

1578
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 2: we made and and I know that some people go, oh,

1579
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 2: I love that, that's my favorite thing about the show

1580
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 2: and ship like that. But I don't know I would

1581
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 2: say that if the cameras weren't here, I say that

1582
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna change because we're on camera and be like, well,

1583
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 2: now I don't want to look like I'm loving you

1584
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 2: too much in public. Then motherfuckers might think I mean it,

1585
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 2: like they might think I rid of love. Yeah, like,

1586
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 2: if that's how you feel, you know, like, I don't

1587
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 2: think nothing's wrong with that. Necessarily. People are gonna always

1588
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 2: accuse people of being fake, especially if they don't like them. Well,

1589
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 2: you don't like I always I asked people to last year, like,

1590
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,759
Speaker 2: what does it mean when you call a celebrity fake

1591
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 2: because I don't really understand, because because in order to

1592
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 2: call someone fake, you kind of have to know what

1593
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 2: the real them is.

1594
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: And yes you do.

1595
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 2: I'm not under the illusion I know any of these motherfuckers.

1596
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 2: How can I know the real you? I don't know

1597
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 2: you. You know so you know, so I don't know. It

1598
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 2: made me think about that. But and then the other

1599
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 2: impost too. Then this is the one I think I

1600
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 2: struggled with the most. And I think in the wake

1601
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 2: of watching these people last week cry and public over

1602
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant, these titans of men, these you know, Shaquille O'Neill,

1603
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 2: Dwayne Wade, Lebron James, like these people that are bigger

1604
01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: than life for so many young black boys and men

1605
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 2: that we've never seen cry before in many cases, to

1606
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 2: see this outpouring of emotion from these men who much

1607
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 2: like I'm sure the pressure is on me and the

1608
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 2: pressure is on a lot of black men to feel

1609
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 2: like you can't do that right, like you're less of

1610
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: a man for doing those things. And especially when you

1611
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 2: feel kind of hated sometimes from both sides, deservedly so

1612
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 2: or not deservedly so, you choose. But when you can

1613
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 2: feel like you don't really have a place to go

1614
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 2: to except for each other, and then the things you

1615
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 2: reinforced among each other often not good things. So to

1616
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 2: see any of these men try to break out of

1617
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 2: that box of masculinity, I'm thankful and appreciative of it,

1618
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 2: for the examples that they're setting and for the words

1619
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 2: that they're voicing that other people may be feeling too,

1620
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 2: you know. So that's what I think about when I

1621
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 2: saw the ti I thing, was like, you know, and

1622
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 2: like I said, bruh, in a week he might be

1623
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 2: saying some more stupid it's t I. In a week,

1624
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 2: he will be saying some more stupid shit. So we

1625
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 2: can always just be like the next stupid thing, like

1626
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 2: fuck t ya, right, Like it's just a reprieve. It's

1627
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 2: just a we could just breathe a little bit and like,

1628
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 2: you know what, that was nice to U t I.

1629
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 2: We'll be right back to our regular schedule fuck ty

1630
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 2: I in a couple of weeks. But he's hurt, right,

1631
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 2: And I think the other thing is you can't lud

1632
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 2: Kobe for publicly being there for his daughters unprompted and

1633
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 2: then turn around and be like, now I'm not really

1634
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 2: necessarily gonna give my own daughters no props. And then

1635
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 2: I think also because of the fact that he did

1636
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 2: do it for his wife and then his sons, I

1637
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 2: don't necessarily feel like we have to turn it into

1638
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 2: like this nigga just clout chasing. No, this nigga doing

1639
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 2: what all of us were doing, thinking about how horribly

1640
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 2: unfair death is. That a forty one year old could

1641
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 2: be ripped out of this fucking earth and what the

1642
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 2: one of the people he loves the most on this

1643
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 2: earth and leave his family behind and ain't going Damn

1644
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 2: that could be me. That's all all of us did it.

1645
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 2: You know, these motherfuckers might be on your TV screen,

1646
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 2: they no less human than us, right, no less? So

1647
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 2: I think that's what we should be. That's what I

1648
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 2: thought about. I can't tell you what to think about.

1649
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to tell you how to think, but

1650
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 2: that's that's what my mind went. It didn't go to like,

1651
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 2: oh this nigga just try and get some retweets, cause,

1652
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 2: like Nigga Eta, you don't need all retweets. He don't

1653
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 2: be rich no matter what the you can unfollow him today,

1654
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 2: he gonna be rich, you know, he gonna be fine,

1655
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 2: and what like, what exactly does he need from Instagram

1656
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 2: that he ain't getting in life already? You know what

1657
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 2: I mean? I choose to believe that he probably believes

1658
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 2: everything he said, and much like a lot of these motherfuckers,

1659
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 2: did he get the same thing from your from Instagram

1660
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 2: that many people on Instagram won't? Right? Like, you want

1661
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 2: people to to to see your humanity and to to

1662
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 2: to understand the sameness that we have, you know, but

1663
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 2: I think when it comes to celebrity and people that

1664
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: are rich and shit, people got that people don't think

1665
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,839
Speaker 2: about their own insecurities of why and what they project

1666
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 2: on these motherfuckers. Correct agreed. For example, if I tweeted

1667
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 2: this or whatever the same thing about Karen or my

1668
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 2: niece or something, motherfucker's gonna be like, Wow, this fake

1669
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 2: ass nigga out here trying to get some validation. He

1670
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 2: don't love his niece, He don't love like everybody, right, Like,

1671
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 2: that's that projection Or if you listen to this, you

1672
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 2: probably like me, so you would be like, nah, that's

1673
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 2: that that's a poignant message, that's a very like that's

1674
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:49,640
Speaker 2: a lovely thing he said, you know, like that it

1675
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 2: is completely about our own insecurities and projection when it

1676
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 2: comes to this shit. But whatever, so I thought it

1677
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:00,640
Speaker 2: was a nice thing to do. We'll see if he

1678
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 2: really means it or whatever. I mean, only his daughters

1679
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 2: can say, right, agreed, Pope's is selling merchandise that lists

1680
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 2: exactly like Beyonce's new Ivy Park line. Yeah, and I

1681
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:18,600
Speaker 2: noticed no one was complaining about the lack of size options.

1682
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 2: You know they wouldn't, which kind of pissed me off.

1683
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 2: I know Lizzo gots on Ivory Park stuff, and nobody

1684
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 2: brought that up. But okay, cool, Why is nobody talking

1685
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 2: about the lack of size? Pope's make you fat? It's delicious. Okay,

1686
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need a couple of exes on this shirt

1687
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 2: if you want me to wear it. Okay, Papa's, I

1688
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 2: don't think you understand how good this sandwich is. I

1689
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 2: was a little I was a little mad about this. Oh,

1690
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 2: Missy got one too. Well, Missy lost a lot of weight,

1691
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 2: so you know I could see that. But I mean,

1692
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 2: it seemed like people skipped over Lizzo getting some shit.

1693
01:31:55,640 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. Anyway, I just noticed that they

1694
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 2: didin't have no fat models. But guess what else? I

1695
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 2: know this, y'all every model in this joint was black. Yeah,

1696
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 2: the marketing team knew it. Popeye's knows the side that

1697
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 2: they biscuits is buttered on.

1698
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 1: Okay, and Pope's was like, hey, we already got them

1699
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 1: same colors anyway, these are these were O colors.

1700
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 2: Mm mmmm that is that is wild to me. Pop

1701
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,639
Speaker 2: Os did the thing. I loved it. Now, I don't

1702
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 2: know who's gonna buy some clothing. You know, back in

1703
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 2: my day. I hate to do this to bring it up,

1704
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 2: but back in my day, if you wanted to get

1705
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 2: some clothing from a fast food place, you did it

1706
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 2: like everybody else. You got a job there. So I

1707
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 2: got all my whole uniform. Yes, that's how I got

1708
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 2: all my stuff. Okay. Now I should have held on

1709
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:51,639
Speaker 2: to it, and that's why they make you give it back,

1710
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 2: I guess. But I should have held on to it

1711
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 2: and been like, oh who trying to hop on this?

1712
01:32:55,960 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 2: I hop waiter Apron circle nineteen ninety five. Who's now

1713
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 2: see this a throwback? This winded blouse and popped the collar.

1714
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 2: This a Mitchellan. This is Mitchellan nests type type throwbacks.

1715
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:16,799
Speaker 2: This O two O five yay, yay. Look this McDonald's

1716
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 2: still smell like five. This McDonald's shirt got to got

1717
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 2: to smell built right on in no matter.

1718
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: How an't I wash it?

1719
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,919
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm just saying, if you want a discount,

1720
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 2: going up to Popey's and see if they'll, you know,

1721
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 2: let you get a job. You can get you some

1722
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 2: Popeye's shirts and a bunch of shit. All right, let's

1723
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 2: see what else do I want to talk about? Been

1724
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 2: going for a while. Uh, don't want to talk about politics, Nah,

1725
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 2: I don't think So we'll say that for later in

1726
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 2: the week. Bill Cosey's former lawyer, Monstlei is suspended in

1727
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:57,680
Speaker 2: definitely for allegedly misusing clients funds. You. Oh, you mean

1728
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 2: that black woman that we had to give up because

1729
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 2: look how great she is. Oh she's a black woman,

1730
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 2: she's a lawyer. Y'all. Yeah, y'all. Remember when y'all fell

1731
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 2: for that? I say, y'all, but remember when people was

1732
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 2: falling for that. I remember that shit people writing in

1733
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 2: our show. I mean, I don't like Bill Kasy, I

1734
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 2: don't support him, but look at his lawyer. I'm like, nigga,

1735
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 2: you can't follow that black woman shit. The gender wars

1736
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 2: are so ridiculous because people really know, oh, we had

1737
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 2: to support black women. Hey man, every black woman not cool.

1738
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 2: Come on this nigga got a job to do, and

1739
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 2: it's defending Bill Cosby. And I don't know last time

1740
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,799
Speaker 2: I checked, I'm not team that neither.

1741
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 1: I remember that shit, and I know somebody got to

1742
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 1: have a job.

1743
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 2: But goddamn, we had to give her credit, y'all. She's

1744
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 2: doing a great job. I don't know. I don't they

1745
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 2: not even in the courtroom yet. How is she doing

1746
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 2: a great job but making the same arguments that Hotels

1747
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 2: is making on Facebook? But she's saying it on MSNBC.

1748
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 2: And now I gotta act like that's okay. No, I don't.

1749
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 2: Oh still, it's making me mad just thinking back to

1750
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 2: that shit. These motherfuckers is crazy that day. Oh look

1751
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 2: what she said. She said, this happened to it because

1752
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 2: it's black. So did your uncle who said he's trying

1753
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 2: to buy NBC? Stop stop? This is a hustle and

1754
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 2: an easy check. I think she was the woman that

1755
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 2: made me realize I could be a great defense attorney

1756
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 2: for guilty celebrities. I would do the shit for half

1757
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 2: the price. It's an easy job. I don't got to

1758
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 2: go to trial because I'm not doing that part. That's hard.

1759
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 2: But I will go on MSNBC and just say bullshit,

1760
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 2: apparently because everyone thinks that makes you brilliant. Listen, my client,

1761
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 2: Bill Cosey is a black man. So there you have it, CNN.

1762
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 2: I bill Cossey right again, and I just take the

1763
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 2: check now, thank you very much. I don't know if

1764
01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 2: you guys noticed, but a lot of the women that

1765
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:04,679
Speaker 2: cues and Bill Cosby all white. I rest my case

1766
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 2: Joy Reid. As a black woman attorney, I expect all

1767
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 2: the things ridiculous. Oh man, that was so ridiculous. But yeah,

1768
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 2: she's so smart, guys that she had to step down

1769
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 2: from the case. What was fired? The reports differ, and Presley,

1770
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 2: one of Kazi's loudest, strongest defenders, never released a statement

1771
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:28,679
Speaker 2: about how she left the case. Since then, we haven't

1772
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 2: heard much of her name. The reports she wanted she

1773
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 2: was going to join r Kelly's legal team, but that

1774
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 2: never came to past. Yeah uh, now she's back in

1775
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 2: the news instead of being associated with another high profile client.

1776
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 2: Is her conduct that's been called the question. She's been

1777
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 2: suspended from the bar indefinitely for allegedly misusing her client's money.

1778
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 2: Her clients claimed she would demand payments upfront before any

1779
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 2: legal work had been completed. What and instead of deposit

1780
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,759
Speaker 2: funds into an escral account like she told them she would,

1781
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 2: she applied the money to a personal account or her

1782
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:07,759
Speaker 2: husband's business accounts. Oh that shit, they can drack. Suspicion

1783
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 2: was enacted in August twenty nineteen. At the investigation from

1784
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 2: a disciplinary council found clear and convincing convicting evidence of

1785
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 2: misuse of funds. Her former clients accused her of taking

1786
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 2: the retainers they gave her and using them for her

1787
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 2: personal affairs without executing substantial legal work. What I mean,

1788
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:28,600
Speaker 2: maybe she did have my idea, this is what I

1789
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 2: would to be doing, and.

1790
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 1: She probably wasn't shown up in court now having this

1791
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 1: shit together.

1792
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 2: I mean, what do it matter? You guilty, You're famous,

1793
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 2: So I'm just here to go on CNN. One complaint

1794
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 2: came from Edwin and Paul Amika, a couple Pressley and

1795
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 2: her husband knew from church. Damn got them at the church.

1796
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 2: Presley is also an ordained minister where they you have

1797
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,719
Speaker 2: me an ordained minister. That's how you new she was shaded.

1798
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 2: Paula high Presley in acclaim against her former I mean,

1799
01:37:57,080 --> 01:38:01,440
Speaker 2: come on, care, she's an ordained minister defending a sexual

1800
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 2: assault of the most prolific one that we know of. Like,

1801
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:08,679
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here, Oh, Joe Ostine ass shit.

1802
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 2: Paula hired Presley and uh claim at the doors on

1803
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 2: them against the former business partner. Policayd Press paid Pressley

1804
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,759
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars for an hourly rate of four hundred

1805
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 2: and twenty four dollars twenty five dollars. The attorney told

1806
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 2: her client she would depositive money in the escraal account

1807
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 2: with all the money and she earned it, but legal

1808
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 2: documents proved that she didn't have an escrow account at

1809
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 2: the time. Instead, she cast a check a day after

1810
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:33,720
Speaker 2: receiving it.

1811
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:37,000
Speaker 1: What and what the hell is the escoal account a

1812
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:37,759
Speaker 1: special account?

1813
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 2: I'm assuming I think it's one of those accounts that

1814
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 2: gains interest on the money as assists in there make sure.

1815
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, like I'm watching them, but we're

1816
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 1: gonna put it in an escore account.

1817
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a contract it's a contractual arrangement in which

1818
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 2: a third party receives and disperses money or a property

1819
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 2: for the primary transacting party. Most generally used with plentiful

1820
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:05,480
Speaker 2: terms that conduct. The rightful actions that follow the dispersement

1821
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,680
Speaker 2: is dependent on traditions agree well the contracting party. So

1822
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,600
Speaker 2: basically what it is you give the money to I

1823
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:13,680
Speaker 2: don't know the bank and the bank and it's like,

1824
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 2: as I earned this money, I will take it out

1825
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 2: of this account. So basically I had seven billable hours.

1826
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 2: I'm writing the invoice for seven buillable hours. You then

1827
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 2: take the money out of this account and give it

1828
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 2: to me. So it's not a direct transaction like if

1829
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 2: you work, if you're paying me, you give me five

1830
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,040
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, right m H. If I do a thout

1831
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 2: and then I take that five thousand dollars, I actually

1832
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 2: put it in this escort account. Whoever the third party

1833
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 2: is that maybe BBNT, I don't know whoever the third

1834
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 2: party is that is holding that money. I have to

1835
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 2: come to them now to get the money. So then

1836
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:48,719
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, I did a thousand dollars worth of work.

1837
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 2: I need a thousand dollars of that five thousand dollars, right,

1838
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 2: you have to show and prove and all that shit,

1839
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 2: and there's four thousand dollars left. Blah blah blah. She said,

1840
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 2: that's what I'm gonna do. But instead she took the

1841
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 2: shit at cash a check. It was like, actually, i

1842
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:02,759
Speaker 2: think I'm worth five thousand today.

1843
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: Oh, and put it on her personal account. They was like, Pitch,

1844
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:05,720
Speaker 1: you can't do that.

1845
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 2: I'll get around to it anyway when I feel like it.

1846
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 2: Let me help up help my husband out with his

1847
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 2: business account, oh dawd. And know that's because that's the thing.

1848
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 1: If it's an account, they tracking the funds and something like, oh,

1849
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,560
Speaker 1: the check that they wrote you, which they've got a

1850
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 1: digital copy of it went through your personal banking account

1851
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 1: and at that score account. Ma'am.

1852
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:26,560
Speaker 2: You need to explain this. Yeah, so it's almost like

1853
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 2: a holding account. But she cashed the check of Dad

1854
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 2: after receiving it. After working the case for two months,

1855
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,759
Speaker 2: she told Paula the case would likely go to trial.

1856
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 2: She told her she would pay a fat flat feet

1857
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 2: of three thousand dollars to complete it instead of paying

1858
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 2: the hourly rate. Paula agreed paid the money in again

1859
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 2: press to cash a check. After year, Paula said she

1860
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 2: was more and more upset, and that's because she was

1861
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 2: not seeing any results or evidence of work and being done.

1862
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 2: When Paula's husband spoke to Presley's husband called and he

1863
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 2: assured him that he would handle the matter, even though

1864
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:56,679
Speaker 2: he wasn't a lawyer. From October twenty fourteen to September

1865
01:40:56,680 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, she did. Presley didn't communicate with Paula only

1866
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 2: Carlton took over two years. Once Carlton took over the matter,

1867
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 2: he continued to allow Paula to believe her case was progressing.

1868
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 2: When the two couples met to speak about the case

1869
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 2: October twenty sixteen, the press told the Omakers they would

1870
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 2: need to pay several more thousands of dollars for additional

1871
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 2: expenses on the hell I Will. That's when Paula filer

1872
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 2: complain against Presley, demanding a refund. As of April twenty nineteen,

1873
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 2: she is not received yet. She did the same thing

1874
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 2: with Billy Greer, a man who had been hired to

1875
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 2: represent she an a gender and age discrimination lawsuit. This time,

1876
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:34,600
Speaker 2: she personally took Grid to the bank in order to

1877
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 2: him to withdraw twenty four hundred dollars in cash to

1878
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 2: pay her She deposited the money into her husband's overdrawn

1879
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 2: business accounts, restoring the balance to two thousand dollars fifty

1880
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 2: four twenty fifty four dollars and seventy four cent. Two

1881
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 2: weeks later, her husband's business account dropped down one hundred

1882
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 2: and twenty one dollars after the money was spent on gas, food,

1883
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,560
Speaker 2: castor draws at other day to day expenses.

1884
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 1: At this point, oh, you know, the bank keeps the

1885
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 1: track of as shit.

1886
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 2: At this point, Presley had done no work on the

1887
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 2: other case other than meeting with Grier at attend and

1888
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 2: a five minute status conference. Oh, what's going on? What's

1889
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 2: crackling over there? I'm sorry. Two months later, Presley asked

1890
01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 2: Grill for seventy five hundred dollars to complete the case

1891
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 2: or she would be done representing him. Grill paid the fee,

1892
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 2: and again the money went into her husband's business account.

1893
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:25,840
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1894
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 2: Support black women, y'all. She Oh, she did that. She

1895
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 2: did the thing for Cosey. I don't listen. I don't

1896
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 2: like him, but I got she was looking fierce in

1897
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:37,840
Speaker 2: that yellow dress. I got the support, says she and

1898
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 2: Hi been doing that same shit to him.

1899
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 1: They was like, but you got to go.

1900
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 2: I can't believe these dummies fail for this. I was like,

1901
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 2: if she fucking with him, she's probably not the highest

1902
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 2: moral character in the first places. We all know this

1903
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 2: nigga tied. Come on, fifty people accusing this nigga the

1904
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:59,679
Speaker 2: same thing, Like, yeah, she's brilliant. Fuck out of here.

1905
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 2: She was willing to take that hit her black woman reputation,

1906
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 2: which tells you everything about her. She about that money.

1907
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 1: Bag.

1908
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 2: In August, Gird learned that this case had been dismissed

1909
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 2: because Presley had not been following up. In March twenty seventeen, right,

1910
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:22,440
Speaker 2: so he sued somebody for this genders and race discrimination

1911
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 2: and the case got dismissed because she ain't do shit

1912
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 2: to take his money. In March twenty seventeen, she was

1913
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 2: hired by Randall and Laura Landers to investigate the circumstances

1914
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:34,640
Speaker 2: of their son's suspicious death and lay those concerns of

1915
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 2: the US Navy. They wired her fifteen thousand dollars in

1916
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 2: advance and to her ESCRO account, along with her hourly

1917
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 2: rate of six hundred and twenty five dollars so I

1918
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 2: guess she must have win and got the ESCIR account.

1919
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 2: Between this, the account had previously been overdrawn. That why

1920
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:53,640
Speaker 2: transferred brought the balance to fourteen thousand, five hundred and

1921
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 2: eighty eight dollars and one cent. Less than a week later,

1922
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,759
Speaker 2: the money had been depleted. Two weeks later, the balance

1923
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 2: was negative fire than fifty dollars. What mm hmmm hm.

1924
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 2: In June, three months later, Presley asked to discuss Randall's

1925
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 2: budget Randall. Randall was concerned about the lack of work

1926
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:13,560
Speaker 2: that had been done to ask for an invoice of

1927
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 2: the hour she worked. When she didn't provide the invoice,

1928
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 2: he asked for his money return. Given how little she'd

1929
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 2: accomplished on the case. She only acknowledged ten hours of

1930
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 2: work for the entire month of GYM. He has yet

1931
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 2: to receiver a refund. But hey, support that, sister, Okay,

1932
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 2: it's just good to see a black woman.

1933
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm assuming all these people are black. I don't know.

1934
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. Didn't say the race, you know, I

1935
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 2: mean we know one was gender race discrimination case.

1936
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 1: So but yeah, doll, that was a lot of money.

1937
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 2: If you dumb enough to see her and be like,

1938
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 2: I like, what she doing with Kazi, I would like

1939
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 2: to give her some money. Well, you know, a fool

1940
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 2: in that money if you dumb enough to believe that

1941
01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 2: cozy shit. Maybe maybe that's what she said. She said,

1942
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:03,599
Speaker 2: you know what, and it's too easy to not take

1943
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 2: that money.

1944
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:06,639
Speaker 1: And she may have done some of these cases prior

1945
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 1: to dude, I'm assuming yeah, true, yeah, some of these

1946
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 1: might be proud of them. Was, yeah, prior to that,

1947
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 1: so you know, now it's a different story. But prior

1948
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 1: to that, you wouldn't have had any idea. And the

1949
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 1: thing is, it's like dot, like, that's a lot of money.

1950
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 2: I'm surprised they're about to walk up on you. Mm hmmm. Yeah,

1951
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 2: they had meanings and nobody cut their hands. What girl?

1952
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 2: You fortunate? All right, let's go to the next segment.

1953
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:35,759
Speaker 2: All right, now, let's move into fucking with black people,

1954
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 2: with those people, fucking with those blacks. We're just fucking

1955
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 2: with fucking with black people. That's right, Guys, tied to

1956
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 2: play the game we all hate to play. It's fucking

1957
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 2: with black people, the game that goes all around the gloves.

1958
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 2: I can so fuck with the willside points, scort zill Tree,

1959
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 2: hundred Animals, are twenty five Today's contests. Everybody, all right,

1960
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 2: let's start here. David Schwimmer proposes all black or All

1961
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 2: Asian reboot of Friends. You know who this is? David Schwimmer?

1962
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 1: He one of them. I don't know which one one

1963
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 1: of one of the people. Don't friends?

1964
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 2: Y'all care? Correct? I don't know.

1965
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 1: No, I don't know.

1966
01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 2: Don't ask me which one? Can care? He's Ross. I

1967
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 2: don't know who Rosse is. I think he's Ross. I

1968
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 2: don't know all their names, but I think he's Ross.

1969
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:50,960
Speaker 2: David Schwimmer, current star of Sky one and now Ross, Chandler,

1970
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:55,720
Speaker 2: Joey those are the names. Phoebe, Rachel. You know more

1971
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 2: than I do. God, I'm trying. I just know that

1972
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 2: show existed. I've never seen a so the Friends, but

1973
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to. I feel like I missed one Manada Monica.

1974
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 2: There you go. I knew what listen, but did y'all was?

1975
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 2: Y'all got impressed? I hit five of the six. Never

1976
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 2: seen the show? I mean, come on, now, that's pretty

1977
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 2: good anyway. David Swimmer, current star, Now listen. I'm not

1978
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 2: against white TV. Okay. I did watch Sex in the City,

1979
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 2: so don't I'm not against it. I'm not against it either,

1980
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:28,679
Speaker 2: I just never kept up with it anyway. David Shwimmer,

1981
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 2: But what anyway, everybody was dunking on this nigga because

1982
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 2: he said, basically, like, yo, they should if they reboot Friends,

1983
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:41,639
Speaker 2: they should do it black or Asian, he said. When

1984
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 2: the topic of the younger generation discovered the show and

1985
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:47,760
Speaker 2: promptly criticizing his all white casts and handling uh is

1986
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 2: of certain storylines came up, Swimmer defended the series with

1987
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:53,080
Speaker 2: some thoughts on context. I feel that a lot of

1988
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:54,960
Speaker 2: the problem today is so in so many areas, is

1989
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:58,439
Speaker 2: that so little is taken in context groundbreaking in his time.

1990
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 2: He called the show ground breaking his time. He said,

1991
01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 2: you have to look at it from the point of

1992
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 2: view of what the show was trying to do at

1993
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 2: the time. I'm the first person to say that maybe

1994
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 2: something was inappropriate or insensitive, But I feel like my

1995
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 2: barometer was pretty good at the time. I was already

1996
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 2: really attuned to social issues and issues of equality. He

1997
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:21,679
Speaker 2: also proposed, and if somebody said that I don't watch

1998
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 2: the show, but that his character was the only one

1999
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 2: that dated women of color on the show, It's like

2000
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 2: maybe it was him as a star pushing for some diversity.

2001
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2002
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 2: He said maybe that should be in all Black Friends

2003
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:34,760
Speaker 2: or All Asian Friends. But I was well aware of

2004
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 2: the lack of diversity, and I campaigned for years to

2005
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 2: have Ross date women of color. Oh there you go.

2006
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 2: One of the first is first. The first girlfriends I

2007
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 2: had on the show was an Asian American woman later

2008
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:46,799
Speaker 2: out dated African American women. That was a very conscious

2009
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:50,759
Speaker 2: push on my part for then' like for the full interview,

2010
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 2: you know, you can go read this shit somewhere else. Yeah,

2011
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:57,680
Speaker 2: the theme that was interesting is that black people was

2012
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:01,680
Speaker 2: on Twitter tis dunck on this nigga. Guess what they

2013
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 2: were saying.

2014
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:06,759
Speaker 1: Guess what they were saying. They were talking about living single.

2015
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:09,840
Speaker 1: That's right, they were at the same time.

2016
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 2: I think living single actually started a little bit before Friends, okay,

2017
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 2: and that the writers on Friends, some of them have

2018
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 2: come out and said that that they were basically ripping

2019
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 2: off a little living single or be inspired by whatever,

2020
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 2: which you know. And so even Erica, our girl Maxine

2021
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:35,120
Speaker 2: was on Twitter dunking on him. I've seen everybody dunking

2022
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 2: on this.

2023
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 1: Man, this chocolate woman that that cheato age.

2024
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 2: Yes, Erica Alexander. Yes, but listen, they they shipped on

2025
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 2: this man. Okay, he caught Hell.

2026
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 1: Didn't even know he thought.

2027
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 2: He thought he was trying to be inclusive. That's what

2028
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 2: my favorite part of this was. He was trying to help.

2029
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 2: Can tell he did not mean on.

2030
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:03,640
Speaker 1: He didn't even you know what the ship we was

2031
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 1: complaining about, it didn't even cross his mind.

2032
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:10,719
Speaker 2: I laughed so hard at every single person that ducked

2033
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 2: on him. Every quote tweet was good. I didn't because

2034
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 2: it's the other thing that Black Tilda does. Okay, guys,

2035
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:19,640
Speaker 2: I think by the fifty one thousand person that is

2036
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 2: quote tweeted this and said, what about living single? I

2037
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:25,679
Speaker 2: think he's got it. But you know what, I didn't care.

2038
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:27,720
Speaker 2: I think I might have did one. I don't care.

2039
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:31,400
Speaker 2: It was so good because he was just trying to help.

2040
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:35,720
Speaker 2: He Ross was out here trying to help, like I

2041
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:38,679
Speaker 2: was a diversity. He said, if they redo this ship

2042
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:41,719
Speaker 2: right now, friends should have black. It should be all black,

2043
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 2: all agent like fuck it, like let like just get

2044
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 2: like get in there. Let's get these kids the diversity

2045
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 2: that they need. TV. What about living single? Ross? You know,

2046
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 2: Ross ain't never seen no living single No, he ain't

2047
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 2: watch that show because I never watched Friends.

2048
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 1: Come. It ain't nothing personal. I just knew it was

2049
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 1: like the highest rating shows like Okay.

2050
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 2: Well, my point is everybody that watched Living Single the

2051
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,799
Speaker 2: Bass of Jordan them probably seen Summer Friends. But everybody

2052
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 2: watched Friends. A lot of them ain't never heard of

2053
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 2: No Living Single. They ain't look for that black shit, right,

2054
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 2: they don't even know them. Shows are like it was

2055
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 2: on Fox when Fox was the ship. It was so good.

2056
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 2: These negroes upset though I can't lie. It was so oh.

2057
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 2: They was ducking on him his own unhelpful, helpful ass

2058
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:32,120
Speaker 2: Oh you don't know Living Single, No, nigga, I don't

2059
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 2: watch that. That's why he said. What say, I'm always

2060
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:40,639
Speaker 2: trying to help you blacks. I'm not you bla so good,

2061
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:41,560
Speaker 2: so good.

2062
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:46,880
Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm I'm not even mad at him because I

2063
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 1: within my heart of hearts, I actually don't think he

2064
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 1: intentionally limited to insault anybody.

2065
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, he was asked these questions. He didn't

2066
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 2: just wake up and start talking about black living single

2067
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 2: Asian living singles if you were asked him about the

2068
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:04,400
Speaker 2: fact that it doesn't reach younger audiences and that there's

2069
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:06,960
Speaker 2: a lot of complaints about the lack of diversity, and

2070
01:52:07,000 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 2: then he basically said, like, yo, I was pushing for

2071
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 2: diversity on the show, but also they should redo the

2072
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 2: show with a lot with just black people and Asian people,

2073
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:20,600
Speaker 2: and yeah, don't matter, he got fried anyway, I'm not

2074
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 2: bothered vibe, but man, I was tickled by the reaction. God,

2075
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 2: he got fried. Try to help, man, you're trying to

2076
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 2: help certain things. Man, Like, if you truly get me,

2077
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 2: if you truly understand me, you understand why that's so

2078
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 2: fucking funny to me, because it's like like sometimes it's

2079
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:41,599
Speaker 2: like it shouldn't really be funny, but it is always

2080
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:43,680
Speaker 2: funny to me. And maybe it's kind of a dark

2081
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 2: sense of human thing, but when people really be trying

2082
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 2: to help out of the goodness of their heart and

2083
01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:50,960
Speaker 2: they get fried for it, I don't know why, but

2084
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 2: it's always funny to me. It's just like, damn, they

2085
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:56,680
Speaker 2: really try to do the right thing, and you know,

2086
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 2: Twitter and context don't go together, so like we.

2087
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 1: Don't nah, we frying you now and you can't please them,

2088
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 1: and like you say, it's one of them Catch twenty

2089
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 1: two's because reality, other people see them getting fried, and

2090
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 1: then people don't do shit, and y'all be like, y'all

2091
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:13,400
Speaker 1: don't do shit. You're right because when I quote unquote

2092
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 1: don't step right, y'all fried me, and I don't got

2093
01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 1: time to be fried.

2094
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:21,360
Speaker 2: It's advance. It's honestly so entertaining man. And there's no

2095
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 2: sympathy or remorse or no context at supposed to feel that.

2096
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:30,760
Speaker 2: I don't. We don't never feel sorry that people responses.

2097
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 2: Let's go to the next Trying to help, Ellen Degenerous

2098
01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 2: surprised a black teen told to cut his dread locks

2099
01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 2: with a twenty thousand dollars scholarship. Oh yeah, uh. Ellen

2100
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 2: Degeneros is taking up the cause of a black Texas

2101
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 2: high school student who was told he won't be allowed

2102
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 2: to return to school or at tennis graduation ceremony unless

2103
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:53,360
Speaker 2: he cuts his dread locks, and she she's surprised her

2104
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 2: with a twenty thousand dollars scholarship. DeAndre Arnold, the senior

2105
01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 2: at Barbara's High He'll Barbara's Hill High School. I don't know,

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01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:03,639
Speaker 2: you gotta cut your hair. It's barber school. And Mark

2107
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:07,560
Speaker 2: BELLEVUEU appeared on the episode of the Ellen Show that

2108
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 2: air Wednesday. Damn. She moved quick at the started a segment,

2109
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 2: The Generous told Arnold, I'm told, I'm sure this is

2110
01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 2: not easy or comfortable for you, but i want you

2111
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:17,840
Speaker 2: to just relax and know that I'm here for you,

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01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 2: and that's why you're here. She continued, because I don't

2113
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 2: understand this. Arnold has said that he was suspended over

2114
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 2: the length of his dread locks. He told by his

2115
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 2: principal that they need to cut his head or return

2116
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 2: to school. You get good grades, you never been in trouble. Ever,

2117
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:31,800
Speaker 2: this is the first time anything has come up, and

2118
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 2: now you haven't been in school for weeks because of

2119
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 2: the situation. Arnold is wanted dread locks for years and had.

2120
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 2: He said he always followed the dress code because he

2121
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 2: kept his hair off his shoulders, above his ear loads

2122
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:45,320
Speaker 2: and out of his eyes. But trying tying up his

2123
01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:48,080
Speaker 2: dread locks, he told The Generous he was informed he

2124
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 2: was in violation of the dress code. Every day I

2125
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 2: would go to school, I will be in dress code.

2126
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 2: But the thing with them is if it was let down,

2127
01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 2: I would be out of dress code. The Generous asked

2128
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 2: if there were girls at the school with long hair,

2129
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:04,200
Speaker 2: to which you responding and affirmative. It said, there's plenty

2130
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 2: of girls with long hair at my school. Like, if

2131
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 2: girls can have long hair, why can't I have long hair? Right?

2132
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 2: The generals said that the point that was the point

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01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 2: she was trying to make. I just personally think you

2134
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 2: should be able to wear your hair however you want,

2135
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 2: especially if there's girls with long hair. What's the difference

2136
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 2: of a girl if girls have long hair and if

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01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:25,240
Speaker 2: guys have long hair. She said she did not think

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01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 2: the policy was fair. Asked Arnold to explain why his

2139
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 2: redlocks are important to him. It's really important to me

2140
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 2: because my dad is from Trinidad, and I really wish

2141
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:35,320
Speaker 2: the school would kind of be open to other coaches

2142
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:37,080
Speaker 2: to just at least let us try to tell you

2143
01:55:37,120 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 2: some things, don't just shut them out. Degenerates agreed. I

2144
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 2: think that's what schools supposed to do, she said, is

2145
01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 2: teach you about other cultures. You're not supposed to teach them.

2146
01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:48,880
Speaker 2: They're supposed to teach you. African Americans make up three

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01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 2: point one percent of Barber Hills Independent School District population. Arnold,

2148
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 2: who has been out of school for weeks, said if

2149
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 2: he doesn't cut his hairs. Only options are in school

2150
01:55:56,840 --> 01:56:00,560
Speaker 2: suspension or an alternative school for children with behavioral issues.

2151
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 2: Barbara's Yes, Barbara Hills High School and the Barbara Hill

2152
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 2: Dependent School District have not responded to multiple requests for comment.

2153
01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 2: Degenerates then spoken to the camera and urged officials to

2154
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 2: do the right thing. I'm begging you. This kid is

2155
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:16,160
Speaker 2: a good kid. He deserves to graduate, to walk with

2156
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 2: all the other kids. He's a good guy. I just

2157
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 2: aim urging you to do the right thing. Please. After

2158
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 2: she invited singer Alicia Keys on stage to award Arnold,

2159
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 2: whose plans to become a veterinary, a twenty thousand dollars

2160
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:30,320
Speaker 2: scholarship to college. I want to tell you that I

2161
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 2: couldn't believe the story when I heard it, Keys told Arnold,

2162
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 2: and I'm super proud of you for setting up for

2163
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 2: what you know is right, and I know that the

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01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:45,120
Speaker 2: school needs to do the right thing. Zero tur hundred care, Oh, drkars.

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Speaker 2: This is not enough. Just twenty thousand dollars. That's it.

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01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:52,200
Speaker 2: That's what somebody tell me on Twitter when I tweeted

2167
01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:56,320
Speaker 2: this school costs way more than twenty thousand dollars care Okay,

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01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 2: college just costs more than that, I said, so that

2169
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,800
Speaker 2: she that it did nothing right, She should have paid

2170
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:04,720
Speaker 2: for the whole thing, go out of her pocket. I said,

2171
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:08,080
Speaker 2: well then, so if you don't pay for the whole thing,

2172
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 2: it's basically, don't have a kid on your show. Don't

2173
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 2: advocate for him, don't, right, because that's the alternative you're

2174
01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 2: talking about, right, Like Jesus Christ, I made your cards

2175
01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 2: to the schools. Yes, yes, but I'm actually not bothered

2176
01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 2: at all by Ellen.

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01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, by her actions.

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01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 2: Know, it was funny to me because once again she

2179
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 2: was trying to help. She was trying to help. Mother

2180
01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 2: fucker's like you rich bitch, like y'all just said. This

2181
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 2: woman wasn't ship for sitting there with George W. Bush.

2182
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 2: And that's the thing about these the people are complicated

2183
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 2: man like. Ellen's not some just evil fucking person. You

2184
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 2: might not agree with everything she does, and I know

2185
01:57:48,240 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 2: that it's the you know, the wave is all white

2186
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 2: people are evil, and all white women especially, we gotta

2187
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 2: really gang up on them. But dog like, she seemed

2188
01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 2: to be trying to do what she thinks is best.

2189
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 2: You might agree with it, but god damn it, she

2190
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 2: trying which is more than most people. That's the whole,

2191
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 2: Like people honestly make it better to never give a

2192
01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:12,080
Speaker 2: fuck about anyone but yourself. They really that's what I

2193
01:58:12,160 --> 01:58:15,560
Speaker 2: really do see. And it's out of jealousy and envy

2194
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:18,440
Speaker 2: and ship that they really want to see these certain

2195
01:58:18,440 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 2: people taking down because some of these people they want

2196
01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:22,360
Speaker 2: to take down. And you're like, but you know that

2197
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:25,720
Speaker 2: person's trying like you, so you think the world will

2198
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 2: be better. I ain't refresh and ship nah, I'll refreshause.

2199
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 2: But Yeah, it's funny, man, because it's like she's trying

2200
01:58:35,360 --> 01:58:38,600
Speaker 2: to help, and motherfuckers really be trying to like make

2201
01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:40,960
Speaker 2: Ellen into this like really evil person, and I just

2202
01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:44,920
Speaker 2: don't believe. I don't believe it. Like I'm not saying

2203
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying everything she's ever did was good, but

2204
01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 2: like the need to turn everybody into like a villain

2205
01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 2: is so stupid at this point.

2206
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,480
Speaker 1: Because the thing is that if everything they do ain't

2207
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 1: super villain status, they can't be the hero.

2208
01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, shit is weird, man, like god man, So like

2209
01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:06,520
Speaker 2: I think it's the impost for revenge that fucks everybody up,

2210
01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 2: cause it's like I think people really wish in a

2211
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 2: weird way that because maybe their favorite celebrity got drug

2212
01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:17,880
Speaker 2: or whatever like Allama Dragons other person, or I never

2213
01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:19,800
Speaker 2: was a real fan of this person, so it's easy

2214
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:21,640
Speaker 2: to just pick up and no one can resist the

2215
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 2: impost to do it. So here we are dragging Ellen

2216
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 2: for help. This fucking kid. She couldn't easily did anything

2217
01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:32,240
Speaker 2: with her Tuesday episode and not giving she had been

2218
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:36,120
Speaker 2: giving away fucking some some bullshit for the thousand times

2219
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 2: and not even worried about this motherfucker man ship like this,

2220
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 2: like people try to do shit out the goodness of

2221
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:44,520
Speaker 2: their hard man Like, let's be frank, this ain't exactly

2222
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 2: a ratings grabber.

2223
01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:46,600
Speaker 1: No, it's not.

2224
01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:50,000
Speaker 2: This is exactly. This is exactly the rest of the

2225
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:55,800
Speaker 2: world wasn't waiting on baiting, baited, breathfa for this. Uh sorry,

2226
01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:58,920
Speaker 2: I didn't know that was gonna play. But yeah, it's

2227
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 2: not like people. It's like, man, I can't wait to

2228
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:04,800
Speaker 2: see what DeAndre what showed DeAndre get is on what

2229
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 2: a huge ratings coop for her? Man, No, nobody was who.

2230
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 2: I can't believe she got that interview. Man, she could

2231
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:15,760
Speaker 2: have did the twelfth fucking like giveaway of the month

2232
02:00:16,160 --> 02:00:19,360
Speaker 2: and been like, fuck this kid, I don't know, man,

2233
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:25,640
Speaker 2: shit is crazy, man, But you know she's like she

2234
02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:30,120
Speaker 2: she's also one of those people that is her. People

2235
02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:32,440
Speaker 2: have to have an ear to the to the to

2236
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 2: the ground of like what's going on. Like I think

2237
02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:37,640
Speaker 2: she tried to start her own social media platform at

2238
02:00:37,640 --> 02:00:41,880
Speaker 2: one point and all this stuff. So yeah, I get it.

2239
02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:45,080
Speaker 2: But it's just crazy that that that people are like,

2240
02:00:46,120 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 2: even in this good thing, it must be evil because

2241
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:52,760
Speaker 2: I had to give somebody some credit, you know. So,

2242
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:56,879
Speaker 2: oh Joe says he thinks she's evil. Okay, cool evil

2243
02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:03,200
Speaker 2: Ellen though, Oh well, you just hope you reach some

2244
02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:05,600
Speaker 2: of the listeners because you're never gonna reach them, all right,

2245
02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 2: gos uh Peter super Bowl ad. This is not the

2246
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:15,520
Speaker 2: last one. Peter's doing a Super Bowl ad for Injustice Shop.

2247
02:01:16,920 --> 02:01:24,480
Speaker 2: They got rejected for some reason. Okay, there's a bee

2248
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:28,520
Speaker 2: taking the knee, so it's different animals taking knees. So

2249
02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:31,080
Speaker 2: fish is taking knees, a bear took a knee.

2250
02:01:32,120 --> 02:01:32,440
Speaker 1: Uh.

2251
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:37,280
Speaker 2: The American national anthem seems to be being hummed in

2252
02:01:37,320 --> 02:01:52,080
Speaker 2: the background. Okay, wolves and foxes, spiders and just everybody

2253
02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:56,240
Speaker 2: taking knees. How man, these animals bottle yeah, the fish

2254
02:01:56,280 --> 02:02:01,400
Speaker 2: took a knee, but we understood the symbolic was the

2255
02:02:01,440 --> 02:02:07,280
Speaker 2: dog and the sheet took her knees. A horse took

2256
02:02:07,320 --> 02:02:14,160
Speaker 2: a knee, a horse, a pig took a knee, but

2257
02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:20,560
Speaker 2: the other pig will sleep, so it's not woke. And

2258
02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:24,840
Speaker 2: then okay, that's some campers taking a knee. I guess

2259
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:27,520
Speaker 2: the bunny is gonna take a knee next to the camper. Okay,

2260
02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:34,520
Speaker 2: eagles looking at that delicious bunny, you're gonna eat it.

2261
02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:40,680
Speaker 2: And the ego even took a knee. Respect is the

2262
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:49,640
Speaker 2: right of every living band and speciesism. Now why was

2263
02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:58,640
Speaker 2: this rejected? I don't know anyway, can zero tie hundred them? Oh,

2264
02:02:58,680 --> 02:03:03,160
Speaker 2: one hundred? Okay, it's because of the long line of

2265
02:03:03,440 --> 02:03:10,680
Speaker 2: uh of Peter co opting black activism as animal rights activism,

2266
02:03:11,360 --> 02:03:17,240
Speaker 2: which sort of uh expresses a level of anti blackness,

2267
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:19,160
Speaker 2: almost because y'all don't actually care.

2268
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:22,520
Speaker 1: You know, you don't care, you don't, you don't. Let's

2269
02:03:22,600 --> 02:03:25,440
Speaker 1: not pretend animals over everything. Let's not pretend you don't

2270
02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:26,520
Speaker 1: go about human beings.

2271
02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:30,640
Speaker 2: Get out of here. Yeah. Yeah, Like in this case,

2272
02:03:30,680 --> 02:03:33,200
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like about Peter the way Joe

2273
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:37,600
Speaker 2: feels about Ellen, you know where I just I just can't.

2274
02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:40,040
Speaker 2: I can't see it for that organization, man. And I

2275
02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:43,360
Speaker 2: know they I know that there are black people that

2276
02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:46,839
Speaker 2: are vegans and black people that are animal rights activism

2277
02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:50,680
Speaker 2: and shit, but like Peter just does a huge disservice

2278
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:54,160
Speaker 2: to that cause because it's always trying to like make

2279
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:57,200
Speaker 2: some black lives matter, or you know, they'll take pictures

2280
02:03:57,200 --> 02:03:59,920
Speaker 2: of black people as slaves and be like, this is

2281
02:04:00,160 --> 02:04:02,600
Speaker 2: just like animals that you eat and them like, no,

2282
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:06,560
Speaker 2: I think for and I think people just don't understand.

2283
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:09,480
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the Mike Vic thing for people

2284
02:04:09,560 --> 02:04:13,040
Speaker 2: that have really done all we can to prove to

2285
02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:16,560
Speaker 2: the world we're not fucking animals. I don't care if

2286
02:04:16,600 --> 02:04:19,200
Speaker 2: you worship animals and you think animals are better than humans,

2287
02:04:20,120 --> 02:04:22,080
Speaker 2: don't compare them to me because I've been treated worse

2288
02:04:22,120 --> 02:04:25,200
Speaker 2: than animals my whole life. Don't compare them to us.

2289
02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:28,520
Speaker 2: Leave us out of your fucking shit, you know. So.

2290
02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:32,720
Speaker 2: Uh anyway, that's a that's a hundred for me. That

2291
02:04:32,800 --> 02:04:35,240
Speaker 2: definitely fucked with me, all right.

2292
02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:38,600
Speaker 1: No one that got rejected, they was like, the fuck

2293
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:42,080
Speaker 1: is this? We already got people protesting jay z we

2294
02:04:42,280 --> 02:04:45,640
Speaker 1: no ma'am, No, No, Peter rejected.

2295
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:49,560
Speaker 2: Right, and I love people. I think the new wave

2296
02:04:49,720 --> 02:04:54,280
Speaker 2: is people commit. People submit these ads to the super

2297
02:04:54,280 --> 02:04:56,800
Speaker 2: Bowl knowing they'll be rejected. Correct, Because the other thing

2298
02:04:56,840 --> 02:04:59,240
Speaker 2: is all these ads are normally available before the Super Bowl,

2299
02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:01,560
Speaker 2: like the people who I'll put out lists and stuff

2300
02:05:01,600 --> 02:05:03,040
Speaker 2: like these are gonna be the ass in the super

2301
02:05:03,080 --> 02:05:04,880
Speaker 2: Bowl and you can find them on YouTube and all

2302
02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:07,000
Speaker 2: this stuff, so you don't need the super Bowl to

2303
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:08,800
Speaker 2: watch as and it's been that way for several years

2304
02:05:08,840 --> 02:05:12,520
Speaker 2: at this point. Okay. Also, people have been publicizing their

2305
02:05:12,520 --> 02:05:15,520
Speaker 2: rejected ads for years now too, and so it makes

2306
02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:17,480
Speaker 2: me wonder if Peter put the money into this because

2307
02:05:17,480 --> 02:05:19,520
Speaker 2: they knew it would be rejected, and then they can

2308
02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:22,760
Speaker 2: add an extra layer of sensationality on it and be like,

2309
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:25,800
Speaker 2: look at this, y'all they didn't need they rejected this ad.

2310
02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:28,120
Speaker 2: It was too hot for the NFL. And then you

2311
02:05:28,160 --> 02:05:30,240
Speaker 2: click out and then see that shit. So that's my

2312
02:05:30,320 --> 02:05:31,080
Speaker 2: personal belief.

2313
02:05:31,600 --> 02:05:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all got animals taking easy, don't got these this.

2314
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:38,400
Speaker 2: I will be eating wings when this commercial comes.

2315
02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:41,560
Speaker 1: All of the wings, all the wings, all the wings.

2316
02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:44,080
Speaker 2: So I don't know why they even trying to act

2317
02:05:44,160 --> 02:05:46,640
Speaker 2: like I am not your you can you ain't gonna

2318
02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:48,120
Speaker 2: be able to reach me at all. He's gonna be

2319
02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:50,400
Speaker 2: a bunch of people at the at the super Bowl parties,

2320
02:05:50,440 --> 02:05:57,040
Speaker 2: eating like delicious taco dip and being like, oh man, animals,

2321
02:05:57,080 --> 02:05:59,520
Speaker 2: that's animals a Kaepernick two things we don't give a

2322
02:05:59,520 --> 02:06:02,480
Speaker 2: fuck about. Right now, Cola Cavinick is gonna be watching

2323
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:04,720
Speaker 2: new super Bowl. I hope these niggas know all these

2324
02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:08,080
Speaker 2: white people that's gonna miss it. Don't cavin It be watching.

2325
02:06:08,120 --> 02:06:11,040
Speaker 2: I guarantee it. You probably be tweeting from it was

2326
02:06:11,080 --> 02:06:14,480
Speaker 2: this programming account anyway. All right, let's get into the

2327
02:06:14,520 --> 02:06:17,960
Speaker 2: final segment of the show. We've gone quite some time.

2328
02:06:18,400 --> 02:06:21,320
Speaker 2: Let's go straight to sword ratchiness and wrap this thing up. Guys,

2329
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:43,720
Speaker 2: Damn you know what Joe made me think about with

2330
02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:47,480
Speaker 2: his Ellen hat. If like Ellen dies in a plane

2331
02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:50,440
Speaker 2: crash or some shit, you think Joe's gonna be out

2332
02:06:50,440 --> 02:06:52,920
Speaker 2: there tweeting like she wasn't never shipped but evil to me.

2333
02:06:52,960 --> 02:06:55,320
Speaker 2: I don't know why y'all crying. I hope not because

2334
02:06:55,360 --> 02:06:58,560
Speaker 2: I feel like if Ellen died, everybody would kind of

2335
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:02,680
Speaker 2: be sad, Like I I hate to break the full

2336
02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:05,720
Speaker 2: the show for a circle like this, But it feel

2337
02:07:05,800 --> 02:07:09,600
Speaker 2: like maybe everybody would stop bullshiting if something bad to

2338
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:13,280
Speaker 2: happen to Ellen and we could finally be like, okay, dog,

2339
02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:16,560
Speaker 2: she was trying. She wasn't the best, and she wasn't

2340
02:07:16,600 --> 02:07:19,040
Speaker 2: the worst, and she did she tried to do a

2341
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:22,840
Speaker 2: lot of good and she also, you know, was not

2342
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:25,920
Speaker 2: always able to pull it off. I wonder cause it

2343
02:07:25,960 --> 02:07:29,840
Speaker 2: feels like the Kobe shit taught me like, you gotta

2344
02:07:29,840 --> 02:07:32,520
Speaker 2: be authentic and be real about this shit, you know,

2345
02:07:33,240 --> 02:07:35,640
Speaker 2: or at least try to be a little more understanding.

2346
02:07:35,880 --> 02:07:36,960
Speaker 1: That's that, and that's my goal.

2347
02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:37,280
Speaker 2: I know.

2348
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:39,920
Speaker 1: I try my best. I got my people to y'all,

2349
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:44,000
Speaker 1: but I really do try my best, yeah, to be understanding.

2350
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:45,920
Speaker 2: Like I would love to see I would love, like

2351
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:49,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to see anything bad happen to anyone really,

2352
02:07:49,240 --> 02:07:52,560
Speaker 2: but I don't know. The Kobe shit, in a weird way,

2353
02:07:52,600 --> 02:07:54,839
Speaker 2: gave me hope cause I was like, people don't always

2354
02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:57,480
Speaker 2: have to be on like they don't it don't always

2355
02:07:57,480 --> 02:07:59,720
Speaker 2: have to be like fuck this fuck every fuck these

2356
02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:02,440
Speaker 2: mother fuck is like party. You could be like god, damn,

2357
02:08:02,520 --> 02:08:05,320
Speaker 2: this is sad, like you know what I mean? Like

2358
02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:07,560
Speaker 2: I was I was low key hate because you know why,

2359
02:08:07,600 --> 02:08:09,600
Speaker 2: because Kobe was a dude that a lot of people

2360
02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:13,840
Speaker 2: was hating in quotes. And I think that's what it

2361
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:15,280
Speaker 2: brought to me, because I think there's a lot of

2362
02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:19,360
Speaker 2: people that get hated in quotes now because it's fun

2363
02:08:19,440 --> 02:08:22,440
Speaker 2: and it's a good pastime and and it's like, how

2364
02:08:22,440 --> 02:08:24,920
Speaker 2: do I take the thing? Francesca Ramsey wrote in her book,

2365
02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:27,640
Speaker 2: this is a huge tangent. But Frandchesca runs he wrote

2366
02:08:27,680 --> 02:08:29,920
Speaker 2: in her book about this YouTube person that she used

2367
02:08:29,920 --> 02:08:33,040
Speaker 2: to hate on. She even joined like a forum for

2368
02:08:33,160 --> 02:08:36,360
Speaker 2: people that hated this woman. That community dog right, and

2369
02:08:36,440 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 2: she was she had basically built a community out of hating.

2370
02:08:40,160 --> 02:08:43,720
Speaker 2: And then when she started her own for foray into

2371
02:08:43,760 --> 02:08:45,960
Speaker 2: YouTube and she started to blow up, one of the

2372
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:49,520
Speaker 2: people in the group hated her and she's that and

2373
02:08:49,800 --> 02:08:51,400
Speaker 2: it's knowing they're in the same group and she can

2374
02:08:51,440 --> 02:08:53,640
Speaker 2: read all this shit. And then they had an offline

2375
02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:56,600
Speaker 2: meet up at a restaurant or something and that person

2376
02:08:56,720 --> 02:08:59,560
Speaker 2: was just all just out walking around introducing franchister like

2377
02:08:59,600 --> 02:09:01,960
Speaker 2: they were best friends. Oh look at this, look at it,

2378
02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:04,720
Speaker 2: look look French. Oh we are friends. She's so good.

2379
02:09:05,320 --> 02:09:06,920
Speaker 2: France thinking the whole time, like, bitch, you don't get

2380
02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:10,200
Speaker 2: number talk shit about me? What are you talking about?

2381
02:09:10,240 --> 02:09:13,320
Speaker 2: How we cool the whole people don't keep that saying

2382
02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:15,840
Speaker 2: but not just not just keep the same energy, the

2383
02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:19,440
Speaker 2: opposite energy. We love, I love friend, we support friends. Oh,

2384
02:09:19,480 --> 02:09:21,840
Speaker 2: look at our own little YouTube star over here, right.

2385
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:24,720
Speaker 2: And it made me just think, like, so, what's the

2386
02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:28,200
Speaker 2: real youth, because now I don't know who I'm dealing with.

2387
02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:31,040
Speaker 2: You fake all the time, or you fake sometimes or what.

2388
02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:34,400
Speaker 2: But and that made friend look at people differently and

2389
02:09:34,440 --> 02:09:36,200
Speaker 2: back up off of them. And maybe that's why I'm

2390
02:09:36,280 --> 02:09:40,320
Speaker 2: hesitant sometimes with what we do for a living, where

2391
02:09:40,360 --> 02:09:44,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, I have to be careful with people.

2392
02:09:44,360 --> 02:09:46,160
Speaker 2: I have to be careful letting people close to me

2393
02:09:46,200 --> 02:09:49,680
Speaker 2: because I feel like the same capacity that just fucking

2394
02:09:49,680 --> 02:09:52,760
Speaker 2: hate somebody for everything they do. That shit could easily

2395
02:09:52,760 --> 02:09:56,920
Speaker 2: be turned on us, easily us one comment, one episode,

2396
02:09:57,000 --> 02:09:59,640
Speaker 2: one joke, and now motherfucker's like fuck you too, fuck

2397
02:09:59,720 --> 02:10:02,640
Speaker 2: you for it, right. So it's just I don't know.

2398
02:10:02,720 --> 02:10:04,680
Speaker 2: I think being on the other side of it, I'm

2399
02:10:04,720 --> 02:10:06,880
Speaker 2: cautious of it and I don't want to. I try

2400
02:10:06,920 --> 02:10:08,840
Speaker 2: not to buy into it, you know, And I like

2401
02:10:08,920 --> 02:10:13,120
Speaker 2: I've had celebrities I like don't fuck with or whatever,

2402
02:10:13,240 --> 02:10:15,320
Speaker 2: and I've had to like even let some of that

2403
02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:18,360
Speaker 2: go for myself, not for them. I don't know the niggas,

2404
02:10:18,720 --> 02:10:20,840
Speaker 2: but for myself, because I'm like, why am I so

2405
02:10:20,920 --> 02:10:23,920
Speaker 2: obsessed with everything? This nigga do was trash, you know,

2406
02:10:24,040 --> 02:10:26,160
Speaker 2: So it just made me think about that ship. But

2407
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:29,640
Speaker 2: even Ellen Ellen be trying to help, so and don't

2408
02:10:29,720 --> 02:10:31,400
Speaker 2: right up here with but what about that one time?

2409
02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:34,840
Speaker 2: That's the fucking point I'm making. She be trying to help.

2410
02:10:34,920 --> 02:10:38,560
Speaker 2: Sometimes she sucks up, Like I don't know everybody. I

2411
02:10:38,600 --> 02:10:41,160
Speaker 2: remember another thing, speaking of Grace, let's talk about I

2412
02:10:41,200 --> 02:10:44,600
Speaker 2: remember when Paul Walker died. I had jokes I was clowning,

2413
02:10:45,120 --> 02:10:49,880
Speaker 2: and people were so upset because I obviously didn't think

2414
02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:52,040
Speaker 2: nobody cared about them. I don't know how many years

2415
02:10:52,040 --> 02:10:53,680
Speaker 2: ago this has been, but it was a long time ago,

2416
02:10:53,800 --> 02:10:56,040
Speaker 2: and we had the podcast at the time, and I

2417
02:10:56,080 --> 02:10:59,560
Speaker 2: remember being like, it's hilarious, this nigga died racing cars

2418
02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:02,600
Speaker 2: he thought was fast. Fear all this shit, right, And

2419
02:11:02,760 --> 02:11:05,320
Speaker 2: so one of the things with Kobe, one of the

2420
02:11:05,360 --> 02:11:08,200
Speaker 2: reasons I didn't even get upset with the people that

2421
02:11:08,360 --> 02:11:11,760
Speaker 2: had made jokes about the shit even because I was like,

2422
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:15,200
Speaker 2: I have been there, I wouldn't do it now, and

2423
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:17,840
Speaker 2: I do look back and go, yeah, that was distasteful,

2424
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:20,880
Speaker 2: and I low key I regret that, you know, But

2425
02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:25,080
Speaker 2: the same empathy I would have to have for this

2426
02:11:25,200 --> 02:11:27,240
Speaker 2: celebrity I didn't know in death, I try to have

2427
02:11:27,280 --> 02:11:30,280
Speaker 2: that same empathy for the people that are, you know,

2428
02:11:30,680 --> 02:11:34,000
Speaker 2: possibly right where I was eight years ago. And now

2429
02:11:34,040 --> 02:11:35,760
Speaker 2: I'm acting like I'm better than them because I'm like,

2430
02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:37,720
Speaker 2: I would never do that now, But you know, I

2431
02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:41,120
Speaker 2: fucking understand. I was there, I did that shit. I

2432
02:11:41,120 --> 02:11:44,120
Speaker 2: thought that shit was so funny, and so look at me,

2433
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:48,480
Speaker 2: I'm fucking being offensive or whatever. You know. The only

2434
02:11:48,520 --> 02:11:51,280
Speaker 2: person I really clown when they died that I think

2435
02:11:51,440 --> 02:11:54,720
Speaker 2: was okay is Jones Rivers because she was she she

2436
02:11:54,760 --> 02:11:56,800
Speaker 2: would have loved it, because that's what she does. Yeah,

2437
02:11:56,840 --> 02:11:59,120
Speaker 2: she would have loved it. She would have she wrote,

2438
02:11:59,160 --> 02:12:02,640
Speaker 2: She'll probably have on Heaven's Twitter, just kidding Hell Hell,

2439
02:12:02,720 --> 02:12:07,600
Speaker 2: only Hell has Twitter laughing at my jokes. But anyway, Yeah,

2440
02:12:07,640 --> 02:12:09,400
Speaker 2: that's what it made me think about. Man was like

2441
02:12:09,440 --> 02:12:12,520
Speaker 2: that complete journey and how I've been lucky and blessed

2442
02:12:12,560 --> 02:12:14,760
Speaker 2: and fortunate they even make it this long to be

2443
02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:17,000
Speaker 2: able to have the realizations of like, oh maybe this

2444
02:12:17,120 --> 02:12:20,920
Speaker 2: is a healthy you know, so it's a process. You know,

2445
02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:23,360
Speaker 2: I feel some responsibility to pass that shit all at

2446
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:25,960
Speaker 2: least that perspective, because it's not what I see very often.

2447
02:12:26,760 --> 02:12:29,440
Speaker 2: I see the opposite perspective all the time. Fuck everybody,

2448
02:12:29,480 --> 02:12:33,000
Speaker 2: be patty, what about this thing this person did in

2449
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:33,960
Speaker 2: two thousand and five?

2450
02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:37,200
Speaker 1: You can't do nothing right, don't help nobody, Like I said,

2451
02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:40,000
Speaker 1: when when people fry and roast people, then you have

2452
02:12:40,120 --> 02:12:42,320
Speaker 1: people they literally don't do nothing or they do shit

2453
02:12:42,360 --> 02:12:42,760
Speaker 1: in private.

2454
02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:44,680
Speaker 2: Because there was like I don't want to deal with y'all. Yeah,

2455
02:12:44,680 --> 02:12:46,560
Speaker 2: and you know what, and I and I think, also,

2456
02:12:47,080 --> 02:12:52,760
Speaker 2: I enjoy our relationship quote unquote with our audience, and

2457
02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:56,160
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, I'm just spitballing here, but maybe

2458
02:12:56,240 --> 02:12:59,520
Speaker 2: I'm already mourning the fact that one day we could

2459
02:12:59,560 --> 02:13:02,960
Speaker 2: lose that because it could become a time where it's

2460
02:13:03,000 --> 02:13:05,560
Speaker 2: like I can't even talk to the people that consume

2461
02:13:05,640 --> 02:13:08,160
Speaker 2: my work because I look at these other celebrities and

2462
02:13:08,160 --> 02:13:10,640
Speaker 2: that's where they're at right now, right you know, Ellen

2463
02:13:10,680 --> 02:13:12,840
Speaker 2: can't have no fucking live chat room or those shit

2464
02:13:13,000 --> 02:13:14,960
Speaker 2: like that, Ellen, you know what I mean. And like

2465
02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:17,760
Speaker 2: I said, she's one that I think tries as opposed

2466
02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:19,600
Speaker 2: to people that really are you know, there's some people

2467
02:13:19,640 --> 02:13:22,280
Speaker 2: that really just you know, like I'm sure the Breakfast

2468
02:13:22,280 --> 02:13:24,360
Speaker 2: Club don't look at what these niggas be saying, because

2469
02:13:24,360 --> 02:13:26,000
Speaker 2: it's like, why would I even do that? I know

2470
02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:28,320
Speaker 2: I'm about to piss them off, right, you know, but

2471
02:13:29,240 --> 02:13:32,000
Speaker 2: it's just interesting to think about that. And maybe that's

2472
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:34,760
Speaker 2: why I'm so hesitant to try to join in on

2473
02:13:34,800 --> 02:13:36,760
Speaker 2: that shit, because I'm like, one day that could easily

2474
02:13:36,760 --> 02:13:39,640
Speaker 2: be us if I show continues to be successful, you know,

2475
02:13:39,840 --> 02:13:41,600
Speaker 2: because you never know what day it is, or that

2476
02:13:41,680 --> 02:13:43,640
Speaker 2: maybe one day where it's like, yo, I don't want

2477
02:13:43,640 --> 02:13:46,440
Speaker 2: to be hit with pain when I'm out here trying

2478
02:13:46,440 --> 02:13:48,720
Speaker 2: to do my best, and I don't want to be

2479
02:13:48,880 --> 02:13:51,000
Speaker 2: you know, roasted for trying to do my best. And

2480
02:13:51,040 --> 02:13:53,400
Speaker 2: maybe that's why I err on the side, are like, well,

2481
02:13:53,400 --> 02:13:57,120
Speaker 2: this nigga was trying, and I have some understanding and

2482
02:13:57,160 --> 02:13:59,839
Speaker 2: empathy for that more than I want to just condemn

2483
02:13:59,840 --> 02:14:02,920
Speaker 2: them to being, you know, a piece of shit villy so.

2484
02:14:03,640 --> 02:14:06,360
Speaker 1: Right, And it's also and it's also for us, you know,

2485
02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:08,640
Speaker 1: because me and you have, you know, talked about this properly,

2486
02:14:08,720 --> 02:14:10,600
Speaker 1: but that I know that there are a lot of

2487
02:14:10,640 --> 02:14:13,000
Speaker 1: people that they quote unquote only fuck with us because

2488
02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:15,160
Speaker 1: we quote unquote talk about black shit. But the second

2489
02:14:15,440 --> 02:14:18,240
Speaker 1: we quote unquote cross whatever that imagine every line that

2490
02:14:18,240 --> 02:14:20,800
Speaker 1: they've made in their mind, and we quote unquote get

2491
02:14:20,840 --> 02:14:24,680
Speaker 1: the white gays or white people start quoting, right, you know,

2492
02:14:24,760 --> 02:14:26,000
Speaker 1: so for so ma of them people, that's gonna be

2493
02:14:26,000 --> 02:14:26,840
Speaker 1: like fuck y'all failver.

2494
02:14:26,960 --> 02:14:28,680
Speaker 2: I liked it when y'all was quote.

2495
02:14:28,480 --> 02:14:30,920
Speaker 1: Unquote underground or small and nobody knew who you were.

2496
02:14:31,120 --> 02:14:33,040
Speaker 1: So you know, like, I don't know what the future holds,

2497
02:14:33,040 --> 02:14:34,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's one of those things where you almost

2498
02:14:34,520 --> 02:14:36,360
Speaker 1: have to quote unquote prepare yourself for that.

2499
02:14:36,720 --> 02:14:38,760
Speaker 2: And it's one of those things where I treasure.

2500
02:14:38,440 --> 02:14:40,920
Speaker 1: The moments that we have now for what it is,

2501
02:14:41,120 --> 02:14:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, and if we grows and it morphs into

2502
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:45,640
Speaker 1: something else, we just have to morph into something else too.

2503
02:14:46,120 --> 02:14:48,640
Speaker 2: I've just come to that, yeah, I think. But yeah,

2504
02:14:48,680 --> 02:14:52,240
Speaker 2: because I keep thinking about like my hesitancy. When I

2505
02:14:52,280 --> 02:14:54,200
Speaker 2: see shit like that and I think that's what it is,

2506
02:14:54,200 --> 02:14:56,480
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, yeah, therefore the grace of God go

2507
02:14:56,560 --> 02:15:00,200
Speaker 2: out because Lord knows like, I'm not sticking around for

2508
02:15:00,280 --> 02:15:02,920
Speaker 2: niggas to be like, Wow, this nigga didn't pay the

2509
02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:06,760
Speaker 2: whole scholarship man, suck like ilegitated my ass. Right, I

2510
02:15:06,800 --> 02:15:07,920
Speaker 2: can't even see that, Like I.

2511
02:15:07,840 --> 02:15:09,800
Speaker 5: Could see me right now that it's gonna be that

2512
02:15:09,840 --> 02:15:12,240
Speaker 5: time where they're gonna be like, oh no, no, ma'am, no, ma'am, no, ma'am,

2513
02:15:12,440 --> 02:15:15,640
Speaker 5: give me your phone, get off the account, because I

2514
02:15:15,800 --> 02:15:17,840
Speaker 5: would tell y'all to suck my whole dick.

2515
02:15:18,040 --> 02:15:21,600
Speaker 2: Right, I will ruin the entire brand in one day, right,

2516
02:15:22,160 --> 02:15:26,080
Speaker 2: you ungrateful motherfuckers. You know y'all sat around begging for

2517
02:15:26,120 --> 02:15:28,360
Speaker 2: somebody to help this little boy out here. I am,

2518
02:15:28,440 --> 02:15:30,520
Speaker 2: out of the goodness of my heart, lending my big

2519
02:15:30,520 --> 02:15:34,160
Speaker 2: ass platform millions of viewers to try to be like, Yo,

2520
02:15:34,240 --> 02:15:37,320
Speaker 2: somebody helped this boy. I'm pleading for his humanity, and

2521
02:15:37,360 --> 02:15:39,840
Speaker 2: you niggas talking about something it couldn't have been forty

2522
02:15:39,920 --> 02:15:42,200
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Suck my dick. They would be like, and

2523
02:15:42,200 --> 02:15:44,640
Speaker 2: that's when Ellen got canceled. So correct, get it? I

2524
02:15:44,640 --> 02:15:45,360
Speaker 2: get it correct?

2525
02:15:45,400 --> 02:15:48,040
Speaker 1: And I see why you know right wrong, grand different,

2526
02:15:48,080 --> 02:15:51,600
Speaker 1: why people fucking respond people are the humans y'all, they're

2527
02:15:51,600 --> 02:15:53,040
Speaker 1: fucking human beings.

2528
02:15:53,320 --> 02:15:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, even with Terry Crews today. It's like he got

2529
02:15:56,800 --> 02:16:00,240
Speaker 2: caught up in believing Twitter believed in him and they

2530
02:16:01,440 --> 02:16:03,960
Speaker 2: you know, you can only really know that that doesn't

2531
02:16:03,960 --> 02:16:05,960
Speaker 2: work that way if you're on Twitter all the time.

2532
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:08,200
Speaker 2: And I guarantee he not because he well he didn't

2533
02:16:08,240 --> 02:16:10,320
Speaker 2: used to be, because you know, he was out here

2534
02:16:10,520 --> 02:16:12,920
Speaker 2: making it. Yeah, yeah, y'all, y'all gonna be mad.

2535
02:16:12,960 --> 02:16:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm be one up people. They'd be like, well, caring

2536
02:16:14,960 --> 02:16:19,320
Speaker 1: did you? I don't know nothing of why she always

2537
02:16:20,040 --> 02:16:22,560
Speaker 1: taking pictures of her her feet and where you're going

2538
02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:25,440
Speaker 1: out to eat, because I probably won't know a give

2539
02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:26,760
Speaker 1: a fuck what none of y'all.

2540
02:16:26,520 --> 02:16:31,680
Speaker 2: Doing or care anyway. After an arboriust wait arrest after

2541
02:16:31,720 --> 02:16:34,720
Speaker 2: an arborist threatened with samurai sword. A witness told the

2542
02:16:34,760 --> 02:16:37,960
Speaker 2: Otago Daily Times that the man came out of a

2543
02:16:38,040 --> 02:16:41,160
Speaker 2: house and you lick Crest about noon and shouted shut

2544
02:16:41,200 --> 02:16:44,360
Speaker 2: the fuck up at a team of arborists trimming trees

2545
02:16:44,400 --> 02:16:47,200
Speaker 2: by the camp's interest. One of the arborists, who was

2546
02:16:47,280 --> 02:16:49,560
Speaker 2: using a chainsaw, I told the witnesses the man threatening

2547
02:16:49,600 --> 02:16:52,360
Speaker 2: with a samurai sword, whoever been a good fight sword

2548
02:16:52,360 --> 02:16:55,240
Speaker 2: against chainsaw. The man then went back in the house.

2549
02:16:55,240 --> 02:16:56,280
Speaker 1: That's not like a video game.

2550
02:16:57,400 --> 02:17:00,400
Speaker 2: They were choose your weapon. There were other people in

2551
02:17:00,440 --> 02:17:03,440
Speaker 2: the house who left when they realized the police were coming.

2552
02:17:03,720 --> 02:17:06,680
Speaker 2: Ten police officers arrived, seven carrying rifles, fanned out and

2553
02:17:06,720 --> 02:17:09,240
Speaker 2: surrounded the house. They must have been on the phone

2554
02:17:09,400 --> 02:17:12,440
Speaker 2: to him giving him instructions, which he followed when he

2555
02:17:12,480 --> 02:17:14,200
Speaker 2: came out. He walked out of the house with his

2556
02:17:14,200 --> 02:17:16,039
Speaker 2: hands in the air, laid down on the ground for

2557
02:17:16,200 --> 02:17:18,800
Speaker 2: being handcuffed and putting a patrol called. The whole incident,

2558
02:17:18,840 --> 02:17:21,720
Speaker 2: which lasted about thirty minutes, was frightening, she said. A

2559
02:17:21,720 --> 02:17:25,800
Speaker 2: police spokesperson said report of a man actively threatening and

2560
02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:29,040
Speaker 2: frank acted acting threatening and Franklin was received at twelve

2561
02:17:29,080 --> 02:17:31,560
Speaker 2: oh five. The man was arrested and no one was

2562
02:17:31,560 --> 02:17:35,320
Speaker 2: injured in the incident. There you go, guys. Well all right, y'all,

2563
02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:41,039
Speaker 2: that's been your Super Bowl pregame. The blackout tips, yes,

2564
02:17:41,080 --> 02:17:43,520
Speaker 2: and as we will be watching the day to support

2565
02:17:44,240 --> 02:17:48,760
Speaker 2: jay Z and the people that actually care about justice. Okay,

2566
02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:51,800
Speaker 2: the NFL, they're out here trying to help these blacks,

2567
02:17:52,480 --> 02:17:55,080
Speaker 2: and they're doing commercials and everything, and I can't wait

2568
02:17:55,160 --> 02:17:59,040
Speaker 2: to support them and all my black brothers and sisters

2569
02:17:59,040 --> 02:18:01,640
Speaker 2: that are involved than the league, and those on the

2570
02:18:01,680 --> 02:18:05,280
Speaker 2: field that still need our support. And you know, I

2571
02:18:05,280 --> 02:18:07,360
Speaker 2: would go to Collin Kaepernick Super Bowl party if you

2572
02:18:07,400 --> 02:18:11,160
Speaker 2: threw one, but so if not, you know, I hope

2573
02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:13,400
Speaker 2: people are going to Shack super Bowl party. He's giving

2574
02:18:13,400 --> 02:18:16,240
Speaker 2: all the proceeds to the people of the families of

2575
02:18:16,280 --> 02:18:19,400
Speaker 2: the people that were killed in that helicopter crash. Yeah,

2576
02:18:19,520 --> 02:18:23,400
Speaker 2: it's important we continue to support these people in these efforts. Guys. Okay,

2577
02:18:23,640 --> 02:18:26,880
Speaker 2: so we will port all right, all right, y'all until

2578
02:18:27,480 --> 02:18:30,960
Speaker 2: next time, and I will be wearing my Colin Kaepernick

2579
02:18:31,000 --> 02:18:35,800
Speaker 2: capitalist shoes that I bought with money, not socialism. They

2580
02:18:35,840 --> 02:18:38,800
Speaker 2: have it care, They have it like the way of oppression,

2581
02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:41,959
Speaker 2: like the weight of slavery and four hundred years of

2582
02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:45,439
Speaker 2: oppression on my feet. I could barely drive in these shoes.

2583
02:18:46,360 --> 02:18:48,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, my feed gotta be strong. You need

2584
02:18:48,600 --> 02:18:52,039
Speaker 2: slave feat to drive these goddamn shoes. It's just pressing

2585
02:18:52,080 --> 02:18:56,680
Speaker 2: down on the fucking acceleration. What's speeding. Damn. I'm like,

2586
02:18:57,600 --> 02:19:01,600
Speaker 2: message received, Colin. I'll see you out anyway, All right, y'all,

2587
02:19:01,640 --> 02:19:03,960
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you all tomorrow, Tills and oh and

2588
02:19:04,640 --> 02:19:07,120
Speaker 2: this too Much will be Wednesday because there's no episode

2589
02:19:07,160 --> 02:19:09,560
Speaker 2: this week, so me and BOSSI didn't do one last week.

2590
02:19:09,680 --> 02:19:13,000
Speaker 2: We'll just do it Wednesday, all right, y'all, Until next time,

2591
02:19:13,520 --> 02:19:15,519
Speaker 2: I love you,