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Speaker 1: on Frieda Carlo and Walt Disney? Oh? Definitely two artists.

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Speaker 1: from tongue Bland or is so called so Cow Los Angeles?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to who was the history quitional? It gives contestants

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Speaker 1: And here's your host, the man who stays young at

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Speaker 1: It's Ellie Kaylin. Thank you be for that reminder of

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Speaker 1: the show that it's kind of like Jeopardy, only with

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Speaker 1: sent who Was books about too great figures from history.

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Speaker 1: who invented mouse ears. Well, Disney, is that why you're

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Speaker 1: the most successful painters of all time, creatively, the Mexican

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Speaker 1: I am Watkins, and from fact about myself as I've

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Speaker 1: Luisa and I've tried to French horn. It's a really

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Speaker 1: was frieda Callo with four fast facts. Prospects one of

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Speaker 1: Are you ready with those scores? Unbolievable? What is has?

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Speaker 1: It's all thanks to the who was app? Who was

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Speaker 1: Activity book? Did you say the Frieda Calo Activity Book?

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Speaker 1: The man behind the mouse? Eric? Yeah, give us a

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