1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: All right, here we go. 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: It is a Thursday, We are live, and it is 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: The Herd. Tom Brady will stop by the show in 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: a couple hours from now. One hour exactly from now, 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: Greg Cosell stops by. And I was thinking this morning 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: as we get ready for Thursday Night Football, our second 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: Thursday Night game. Last Thursday, it was the Cowboys almost 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: beating the Philadelphia Eagles, the Super Bowl champs. If ceedee 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Lamb catches that perfect beatball by Dak. 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: They do beat them in my opinion. 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: So tonight we don't get a struggling icon franchise in 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. This Thursday, we get the best franchise 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL arguably and maybe not even arguably in 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: the last thirty years, the Green Bay Packers, and. 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: I want to talk about that. 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: So the Packers are again, what else is new at 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: home and favored on a big national TV game? And 25 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, I was thinking this morning, I live close 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: to Green Bay. Now I'll get up there eventually. But 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: they've dominated the NFL since Brett Farb arrived, Farvin Rogers 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: twenty five years, fifteen division titles. Now suddenly the Lions 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, new coach, new GM, 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: new culture. You know, they build that thing up in 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Back to back division titles. 32 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: There's a new sheriff in town. No, actually, you watched 33 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: Week one. The Lions made a mistake on coordinator hires. 34 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: They maybe third to fourth, and green Bay is back 35 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: on top. That's the way it always works. Minnesota's had 36 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: good years. We always overinflate the Bears' chances. Ooh, Detroit's 37 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: really now going to own the future and green Bays 38 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: back on top. First of all, they've become the only 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: NFL franchise that has hit home run, home run, home 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: run with quarterback. And not only get did they get 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: far who's a bit of a reclamation project. Rogers first 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: round fell to him and Jordan Love, but they didn't 43 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: have to give up massive draft capital and bought them 44 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: out to get them. That was kind of like Danny 45 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: Ainge and the Celtics, We're going to rebuild and still 46 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: be viable. And yet today and then tonight as you 47 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: watch as the league has pivoted to offense, and franchises 48 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: like the Bears and the Steelers that are iconic can't 49 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: figure out offense. No team in the NFL and twenty 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: twenty five has more tight end wide receiver talent on 51 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: rookie contracts that can all play. And you'll see it tonight. 52 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: Since nineteen add it up over thirty years, the Packers 53 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: are number one in the NFL in winning percentage points 54 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: per game, second in playoff wins, division titles since the 55 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: Brett Faarvira one. 56 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 4: Be able to get top done and go one and 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 4: on in the North is a you know, the start 58 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: we wanted right there. But big picture, I mean it starts, 59 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: it all starts with NFC North. So to have a 60 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: North team come in here, we got a big, big, 61 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 4: just picture for us right now is you know, super 62 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 4: Bowls down the road, but it all starts with NFC North. 63 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: So we got to go out there and you know, 64 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: obviously get off to a better start than we did 65 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 4: last year. 66 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: Packers tonight in a close one, so you know we do. 67 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: We do a lot of predictions on a week to week, 68 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: like Blazing five, and I got Colin right and wrong 69 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: on Monday. I usually say what I'm about to talk 70 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: about for Mondays right and wrong. But big picture predictions 71 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: the one that got the most pushback this year. As 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: I said, I think San Francisco's gonna finish third in 73 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: their division. That's the one I got all the pushback on. 74 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: And the reason I gave was not because Kyle Shanahan, 75 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: He's great. It wasn't because I don't love George Kittle, 76 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: Trent Williams and Christian McCaffrey and Fred Warner their Hall 77 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: of Fame talent. I said, this is an organization Number one, 78 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: they're brittle, and number two. As much as I like 79 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: John Lynch, they have missed on too many top picks, 80 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 1: so when the injuries happen, they don't have a reservoir 81 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: of depth. And this morning brought perty out three to 82 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: five weeks my first NFL Macro prediction that looks right. 83 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: So you generally don't start a season with injuries and 84 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: get healthier. And this is where Green Bay has flourished. 85 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: It's hard to find, especially an offense, a Packer early 86 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: draft pick that's been a miss. 87 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: It's hard to find. 88 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: San Francisco gave up two first for Trey Lance miss, 89 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: Jake Moody, third round pick, kicker disaster, Javon Kinlaw first 90 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: round miss. Even in free agency they went for Javon Hargrove. 91 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: That was wasted money. So when you watch the NFC 92 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: right now, there are three teams that pass the eye test, 93 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: and they all have something in common. The Packers look fast, 94 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: young and athletic. The Rams defense does, and the Eagles 95 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: on both sides, and the reason being they've nailed the draft. 96 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: And that's what worried to me about San Francisco, not 97 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: just that they were brittle and a little old, but 98 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: that they've missed on so many draft picks. When you 99 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: get banged up, this is what you look like going 100 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: into New Orleans with a chance to lose to arguably 101 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: the first or second worst team in the league. Yeah, now, 102 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: brock Perty, who's going to be out. That is a 103 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: great draft pick. That is as good a draft pick 104 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: as you're going to get. But when you look at 105 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: the NFC, Rams defense, packers offense, eagles both side. 106 00:05:58,480 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 3: It's nailing the draft. 107 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: So in this league you get old and brittle very 108 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: fast when you start giving away picks, drafting quarterbacks that 109 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: can't work, draft kickers. 110 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 3: In the third round. That's why. 111 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: By the way, the Lions last year had so many injuries, 112 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: but yet they finished fifteen to two. 113 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 3: Why because they had drafted so well. 114 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: So the injuries for the Niners going into Week two, 115 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. Brock Perty, Brandon Aiuk, George Kittle, and several players. 116 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: That are game time decisions. 117 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: Mac Jones will be the starter. Yes, that Mac Jones. 118 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: Here's Kyle Shanahan. 119 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: Mag knows how to play the position. 120 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 5: He can play well in the pocket, distributes the ball 121 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 5: well so he's coverage as well, can play fast in there. 122 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 5: It's got a lot of good film from the NFL. 123 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 5: With experience and obviously college tough guy will hang in 124 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 5: there and delivered to the ball where he needs to go. 125 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 3: So Green Bay tonight favored as they should be. 126 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 6: Hey, what's up everybody? 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Hutschman Zada, 136 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 6: and Plexico Burrs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or 137 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 6: wherever you get your podcast from. 138 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: Everybody. 139 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: After the Caleb Williams loss on Monday and a pretty 140 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: bad second half, it is opining on what's not as 141 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: bad as you think or it's absolutely terrible. I tried 142 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: to be optimistic. I thought he outplayed JJ McCarthy for 143 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: the first two quarters, absolutely and maybe the third out 144 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: played in the fourth, the most important quarter, obviously. But 145 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: the numbers are not playing the Caleb Williams favor. I'll 146 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: give you an example of a couple of them. So 147 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: I read this in Yahoo Sports this morning. In the 148 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: last take last year and Week one of this year, 149 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams leads every NFL quarterback with fifty two incompletions 150 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: due to overthrows, so too much horsepower overthrowing the ball. 151 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: Next is bow Knicks, Mahomes, Darnold, Justin, Herbert Stafford. Okay, fine, 152 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: there's overthrows when you have a big arm, but it's 153 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: the margin. He is so far ahead of even second place. 154 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: He's forty eight percent higher in one year, in one 155 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: game than bow Knicks in second. He's also right now 156 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: worst in the league in the operational stuff. You gotta 157 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: have a good foundation before you build a cool kitchen. 158 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: Pre snap penalties they had four eight offensive penalties. Here's 159 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: more damning news. A lot of people in Chicago were saying, 160 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, it might as well just be Justin Fields. 161 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 3: No, it's worse. 162 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: He might as well be Mitch Trubisky. If you go 163 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: to the first eighteen starts of Mitch Trubisky and the 164 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: first eighteen starts of Caleb Williams, it's identical, except Caleb 165 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: gets sacked significantly more. For the radio audience. Completion percentage 166 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: is sixty two for both. Passing yards, about two hundred 167 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: and ten for both, total touchdowns, about twenty two, twenty three, 168 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: twenty four for both. Passer rating mid eighties for both. 169 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: It's not Justin fields. It's Mitch Trubisky. So and here's 170 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: another number that's not good. Positive Colin, it's not working 171 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: well for me. He completed just sixty six percent of 172 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: his throws fourteen of twenty one on ball six yards 173 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: or last Jayden Daniels was eleven of twelve, so he's 174 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: missing laps. He leads the league by a long shot 175 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: in overthrows. He's the worst in the league operationally. And 176 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: they got a m a clever head coach, and they 177 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: rebuilt the old line, and they drafted a tight end 178 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: out of Michigan with their top pick Dj Moore, two 179 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: other receivers, five of their top six picks the last 180 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: two years of an offense. The good news no more 181 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: Brian Flores for a while. But all the numbers coming out, 182 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to spin it positively. It's not great. Here 183 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: was Nick right yesterday. 184 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 7: He really struggles with the operation still and the getting 185 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 7: out of the huddle, motioning guys a little too late 186 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 7: like the pre snap stuff. He still looks like a 187 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 7: rookie and this is year two. I still believe in 188 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 7: Caleb Williams long term, but I think it is going 189 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 7: to be a much slower process. 190 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: Than I had hoped. 191 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen, short passes, overthrows, operation former Bears 192 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: comp It's not good. And to make it worse, Detroit 193 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: just got humiliated in week one at Green Bay. 194 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: And what is our rule on this show? 195 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: Teams with competent head coaches and quarterbacks that get humiliated 196 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: almost always have a great week of practice and button 197 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: most of their problems up. So it's not like you're 198 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: facing an overconfident Lions team. You're facing a Lions team 199 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: that is like in crisis mode. So they're going to 200 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: have an incredible week of practice and Jared Goff at 201 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: least has the operational stuff down. 202 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 203 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: and noone Easter not a Empacific. 204 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: And with that, twenty three years seven times Super Bowl 205 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: champ Tom Brady is now joining us live. Tom as 206 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: always a threat to see how are things? 207 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 8: Let's have call him NFL Season Week two. 208 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 2: Let's go. 209 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: You know I was saying about JJ McCarthy, let's start. 210 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: You're a Michigan guy. Is that he's got a little 211 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. I thought you were a guy like when 212 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: I think emotional players. Baker's a guy that when Baker 213 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: gets into a run, his chest puffs out, his velocity increases, 214 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: his accuracy increases, he wears his emotions on his sleeve. 215 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: I don't feel that with you. I didn't feel that. 216 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: I don't think Michael Pennix is that. But when I 217 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: watched JJ fourth quarter hits justin Jefferson on the sideline Tom, 218 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: it was. 219 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: Like I gave him be twelve shot, he puffed out three. 220 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: And it's take me through that about how emotion. 221 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: Affected you positively or negative, Because I think JJ is 222 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: an emotional player. 223 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 8: I absolutely love it when I see that type of emotion. 224 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 8: I think it brings you to kind of higher level 225 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 8: of focus. Stands in there, takes a hit, makes a 226 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 8: great throw, and that game is all about emotional being 227 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 8: at kind of a feverish and feverish pitch but also controlled. 228 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 8: And I could get there emotionally in a way that 229 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 8: probably didn't look like it. 230 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: On my face. 231 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 8: I think JJ just expresses that a little bit more. 232 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 8: I always think, like, watch golf a lot, and I 233 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 8: see these golfers hit these holding ones and they like 234 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 8: fit their cap and they're like, and I'm like, man, 235 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 8: i'd be going crazy and I love Ryder Cup style. 236 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 8: Golfer guys are fist bumping, and I just think that 237 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 8: emotion when you're electrified as a player, you play with 238 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 8: the most focused, the most anticipation, everything ends up being 239 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 8: at the highest sense of kind of the alertness. 240 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: So I love that aspect of his game. You know, 241 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: he's just got to keep that going for a long time. 242 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 8: That I believe is part of your conditioning and that 243 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 8: ability to elevate your teammates as well in those big moments. 244 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 8: And I love seeing that from a Michigan man. 245 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: So we all know during your dynasty there were some 246 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: things we could bank on. Belichick's defensive coaching, your efficiency. 247 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: You guys always had a better than average run game 248 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: lost in a lot of your success. The two winning 249 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: his teams the last twenty five years have been Green 250 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: Bay and your teams. Why why is that? And I 251 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: would argue this offensive line play. The Packers almost never 252 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: have a bad O line, and because of Dante Scarnecci, 253 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: you didn't. So Mahomes now is in a different situation. 254 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: He has now been blown out twice in Super Bowls, 255 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: once by you because of deterioration of O line play. 256 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: So their tackles Tom in Week one grated incredibly poorly, 257 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: so you didn't have a lot of that deterioration. But 258 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: go to games in which I remember that Giant Super Bowl. 259 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: So the first play of the game, I was with 260 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: a friend and the Giants rushed through and I said, 261 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: was it? Tom's in trouble? They lost all four battles 262 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: up front. When the offensive line is deteriorating, go to 263 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: your career. What does it do for a great quarterback? 264 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 8: Well, I always say you control the line of scrimmage, 265 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 8: you control the game. So when you control both sides 266 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 8: of the line of scrimmage, you have a huge opportunity 267 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 8: for success. And it takes someone like Patrick Mahomes to 268 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 8: kind of have that Mahomes magic and pull the rabbit 269 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 8: out of his hat in order to keep his team 270 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 8: in the game. And he's had a lot of unique 271 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 8: offensive line combinations Patrick has. 272 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: They've been trying to. 273 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 8: Find a left hack left that position for a long 274 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 8: time in that offense, and it's a challenge because it 275 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 8: affects the way the quarterback fels, like, can I really 276 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 8: sit back there and do I trust my teammates up 277 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 8: front to be able to tech me long enough so 278 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 8: that I could see down the field to read the 279 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 8: coverage and then make a very decisive, accurate throw. So 280 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 8: he's got to find a way to overcome that, and 281 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 8: he has. 282 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: In so many ways. 283 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 8: In Patrick had even though despite his stats being down 284 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 8: a little bit last year, I still think he had 285 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 8: an incredible season. 286 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: They won fifteen games. 287 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 8: And you see that throw this on the run right there. 288 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 8: There's only a few guys that could make that throw. 289 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 8: Patrick's one of them, and he is so poised back there, 290 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 8: and I think they're actually with you know, thinking about 291 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 8: that offensive line with the rookie Simmons, with Sue Mattie 292 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 8: who's in there, is a second round pick from last year, 293 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 8: Create Humphrey there and Tray Smith at right guard. 294 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: They're they're set. 295 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 8: Up to have a pretty good offensive line as they 296 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 8: gel and grow together. So that would be great for 297 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 8: Patrick to feel like he has some confidence to stand 298 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 8: back there. Because the Super Bowl look so much of 299 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 8: that game ended up being can we block the Eagles 300 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 8: defensive front? And that Eagles defensive front played their tail 301 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 8: off that game, and really the Chiefs. 302 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: Had no chance when they were rushing that well. I 303 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: remember years ago, I've referenced this several times. You were 304 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: talking to Jay Glazer and it was I think it 305 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: was after a practice because everybody else was clear, and 306 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: you said you were still in New England. You said, 307 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: you know, Jay, I've seen every coverage. You can beat me, 308 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: but you're not going to fool me. I've seen everyone, 309 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: and you've been very vocal about the pre snap operational 310 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: side has deteriorated. Is there a quarterback though, right now 311 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: in the league that you look at pre snap and 312 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, you can see it. I can see 313 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: he's operating at a different level. Is there one or 314 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: two guys and I would imagine they're older that you 315 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: look and you can tell from head movement, you can 316 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: tell from the directions that you can tell pre snap. 317 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 2: Our elite, Well, Matt Stafford just jumps to the top 318 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 2: of my mind. I'll tell you why. 319 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 8: When you see someone do these passes like he did 320 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 8: last week, he knows where the defense is going to 321 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 8: be aligned, so he knows, okay, he hees a certain coverage, 322 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 8: he knows the high low combination that's going to work 323 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 8: against that coverage, so he stares at the low defender, 324 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 8: draws the coverage to the low defender, stares at the 325 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 8: low defender, and then throws it to the higher receiver 326 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 8: in the combination. So that is an elite level of 327 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 8: play in his ability to recognize defenses and then make 328 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 8: those type of throws. So he's the one. And again 329 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 8: he's a veteran quarterback. He's played a lot of football. 330 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 8: I think Patrick really understands the games and combinations like 331 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 8: that as well. 332 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: But you're right, there's just not a lot. 333 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 8: There's a lot more I would say physical development happening 334 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 8: at a younger age, but less I would say mental 335 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 8: emotional development from quarterbacks. And you know, I had a 336 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 8: chance to talk to Andy Reid about that, had a 337 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 8: chance to talk to Patrick Mahomes about that this week. 338 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 2: No one of the they said. 339 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 8: Look, Patrick flat out said, I can't thank Alex Smith 340 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 8: enough for everything that he did for me. All I 341 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 8: did was ask him questions in the meeting room my 342 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 8: first year, and I look at my first year, that's 343 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 8: all I did. With Drew Bledsoe, Aaron Rodgers had three 344 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 8: years to sit behind Brett Favre, Eli Manning sat behind 345 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 8: Kurt Warner. There's a lot of guys, and I would 346 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 8: say a lot of successful players that weren't kind of 347 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 8: throwing into the fire, because what happens is you can 348 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 8: lose your confidence so fast, because when the real games 349 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 8: are happening, the blitzes are coming, and you don't understand 350 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 8: protection and you don't understand coverage, and you start taking 351 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 8: hits and you start throwing interceptions. You begin to lose 352 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 8: confidence that, hey, I don't even know how to play football. 353 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 8: I don't know how to go down and lead our 354 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 8: team to score points. I can't even make and complete 355 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 8: a pass. So if you're sitting in the meeting room 356 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 8: and learning, I actually think that's the best way to learn. 357 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 8: You can understand it on the board, you can understand 358 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 8: it on the video screen, you can go out to 359 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 8: a walkthrough, and then you can learn and practice by 360 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 8: making a lot of you know, good decisions, bad decisions 361 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 8: without necessarily being critique from the outside world and losing. 362 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 8: You know, Look, you got PFF grade in you every week, 363 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 8: like you were just referencing there before I came on. 364 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 8: They're grading you, and now you go as a first 365 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 8: year quarterback you barely know, and now everyone's telling you suck. 366 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 8: And it takes a while to regain your confidence, you 367 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 8: lose your whole fan base, and it's it's it's really unfortunate. 368 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 8: But that's that's very much the state of the league. 369 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 8: And I think we've dumbed down the game in so 370 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 8: many ways to allow for a lesser caliber, developed player 371 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 8: to get in there and lead an organization. 372 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: So, you know, I always had this theory that quarterbacking 373 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: should be easier. Now you have personal coaching seven on 374 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: seven camps. I mean, guys like you and Drew Bledsoe 375 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: and Troy Aikman have told me like I literally had like, 376 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, eight high school games a year. You know, 377 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: you're like I had forty starts, including high school. Well, 378 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: guys now have ten thousand snaps by the time they're 379 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: fourteen years old. So I've always said as a sports commentator, 380 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: I used to give guys three years. My argument now 381 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: is Thanksgiving year two. The GM, the coach, the coordinator 382 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: need to go upstairs in a room privately raise their 383 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: hands yes or no. And I don't care where you 384 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: drafted him. I would give Caleb eleven more weeks. Caleb Williams, 385 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: let's go upstairs. Is that fair? I know it sounds 386 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: kind of harsh, but Thanksgiving year two. I believe quarterbacks 387 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: if they're if they the operations aren't there, he's not 388 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: the guy. 389 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 3: Is that too soon? 390 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 391 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 8: But I would argue this, you're assuming that everybody knows 392 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 8: how to develop a quarterback. You're assuming that you're going 393 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 8: into a program. 394 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm telling you this is not a lot. 395 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 8: Of people who have no idea what they're doing when 396 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 8: they're tasked with coaching a quarterback or calling an offense. 397 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 8: So are you saying, I mean, just like we'd rank 398 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 8: quarterbacks one to thirty two, do you rank offensive coordinators 399 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 8: one to thirty two? Do you rank quarterback coaches one 400 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 8: to thirty two? 401 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: Well? 402 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 8: What if you had the thirty second ranked coordinator in 403 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 8: someone's mind with the thirty second ranked quarterback coach, how 404 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 8: is he getting a level of development that the guy 405 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 8: who's first is getting. When I got to the Patriots, 406 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 8: I sat behind Drew who was a franchise quarterback. 407 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: Right in my second year. 408 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 8: It's training camp, and we had a very good quarterback 409 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 8: coach named Dick Rayvine, and God rest his soul, unfortunately 410 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 8: he passed away in training camp of a heart attack, 411 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 8: and it was a very difficult loss for our team 412 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 8: and the way that we found a way to continue 413 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 8: on that season is Bill Belichick became more or of 414 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 8: a quarterback coach than we ever imagine him being a 415 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 8: quarterback coach. He was a defensive he was obviously a 416 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 8: head coach, very involved in defensive game planning, but he 417 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 8: decided to come in every week and talk to the 418 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 8: quarterbacks about coverage. 419 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: All right, guys, and he would do these big write ups. 420 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 8: And they still have moll because I kept everything com 421 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 8: This is Cover one. This is how they play it. 422 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 8: This is who we're responsible for who. Okay, if we 423 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 8: line up in a bunch formation, this is how they're 424 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 8: going to handle the bunch formation. This is why they 425 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 8: do that. This is the weakness of that, why they 426 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 8: do that. You shouldn't do this if that's just how 427 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 8: they cover this. Okay, this is Cover two. This is 428 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 8: how they cover this is they play two variations that 429 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 8: Cover two when they're in this variation. This is what 430 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 8: they're trund's up when they're in this various This is 431 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 8: what they're trund stup. 432 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 2: Okay, this is Cover four. 433 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 8: This is how this team uniquely plays Couple four. We 434 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 8: shouldn't line up in this formation to try to run 435 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 8: this concept for one year I had for actually more 436 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 8: years beyond that. That's how I developed and learned. Oh, 437 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 8: defense calls a certain and play. This is how we 438 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 8: can We can put them in this formation and they 439 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 8: can back the coverage off and I'll have a short 440 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 8: thrown reason. Oh great, I love that. Let's do that. 441 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 8: Nobody is getting that type of development. So I learned 442 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 8: from an offensive standpoint, watching Drew and having very good 443 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 8: offensive coaches. Then I had a defensive coach, the best 444 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 8: one of all time, teach me how to read defenses. 445 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 8: Then I would go out and meet with player personnel, 446 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 8: people you know who are very talented. Okay, we go 447 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 8: through the entire defensive lineup. Okay, these are all the 448 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 8: things that this defense does. This is what this player 449 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 8: does well. This player does well. This player does well. 450 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 8: That's development. You're giving people knowledge and information that you 451 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 8: could take to the field so that you could play 452 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 8: with confidence and anticipation, and that would free you up 453 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 8: to play a very aggressive style of football. So I'm saying, 454 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 8: what if you're a quarterback, then you go to a 455 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 8: system and they don't teach you coverage, They don't teach 456 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 8: you cover one. They don't teach you cover two, they 457 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 8: don't teach you cover four, they don't personnel meanings. They 458 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 8: give you an offensive game plan and they go all right, 459 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 8: but here you go figure it out, and after Thanksgiving 460 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 8: of your second year, they're going, man, this guy just 461 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 8: can't play anymore. 462 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 2: He stinks. He you know, he can't recover. It's like, dude, 463 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 2: what would. 464 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 8: Did you teach him anything? Did you groom him? Did 465 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 8: you spend time after practice? Did you work on the 466 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 8: physical parts of his game? Did you work on his 467 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 8: throwing mechanics, did you work on his drops? Did you 468 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 8: work on the mental parts of the game. Did you 469 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 8: understand how to help him study film better? So all 470 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 8: these aspects physical part about football. The physical part is 471 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 8: one aspect I got was one hundred and ninety nine 472 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 8: pick in the draft because so many people were focused 473 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 8: on a physical skill. Tom Brady two weak couldn't stand 474 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 8: in the pocket, you know, is if he gets hit, 475 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 8: he's going to go down. 476 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: You know, laughs are really strong arm. 477 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 8: That was kind of But what I what I really 478 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 8: understood the mental emotional part. I could bring a consistent, competitive, 479 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 8: winning attitude to the to the game every day or 480 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 8: to practice and the games every single week. Mentally, I 481 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 8: could absorb information you could give me, just like Belichick 482 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 8: did pages of notes, and I could process those things 483 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 8: and then take them to the field and play with 484 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 8: the anticipation. So what I lacked for maybe in a 485 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 8: bit of physical development, I far exceeded a lot of 486 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 8: other people in mental emotional development. 487 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: And that's a hard thing to evaluate. 488 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 8: But I'd also say there's not many people who even 489 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 8: know what to do. You know, it's not like they're 490 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 8: CEOs of businesses. A lot of times they're football coaches. 491 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 8: With all due respect, they're not running large corporations. You know, 492 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 8: as as Bill Parcell said, you know, they're pe coaches. 493 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 8: A lot of times I get elevated to you know. 494 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: Coaching positions. 495 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's funny, I said, I thought Jadeen 496 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: Daniels last year, not because he can move or he 497 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: has a nice arm, it was the best rookie quarterback 498 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: I'd ever seen in terms of poise. Two minute drill 499 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: that had to play them a whole was great. But 500 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: he got to sit behind you know, Alex Smith, who's 501 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: the great, the great teacher, But I mean drafted play 502 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: now go, and I was thinking about this and the 503 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: thing that blew me away with him, and Kingsbury was 504 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: saying this in camp, and I remember being on the 505 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: air saying, Cliff slowed down, you're raising the bike. Cliff's like, 506 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: I can't believe this kid. And I'm like, guys, he's 507 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: a rookie. Bring it down his poise. And you know 508 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: what I think about this is crazy. You had this 509 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: at a very early age, your first year starting right 510 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: replacing Drew. 511 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 3: Is it parenting? 512 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 2: Like? 513 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: I think it's innate that some kids have right like, 514 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: And I watched Jayden Downels. I'm gonna look his parents up. 515 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: What did his parents do? He was so cool and calm. 516 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't think you can teach that. I'm watching him 517 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: in week three there's a buck twenty on the clock, 518 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: no facial expression. I'm like, Okay, that's not that's from home. 519 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: That's from something I believe. The one thing you can't 520 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: teach nobody can teach it is you are either calm 521 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: in crisis or you're not that. If you're anxious in 522 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: a teeth clencher, it never goes away. No matter how 523 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: good you can you can get explain that you had it, 524 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: Jaden had it? 525 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 3: Did you learn it? Did you have it when you 526 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 3: were twelve? 527 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 528 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 8: There's poise and composure in big moments that I do 529 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 8: think separates kind of elite performers, and I would say 530 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 8: it's it's probably a high sense of self confidence in 531 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 8: big situations. You see that with Patrick Mahomes. I think 532 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 8: he's probably one of my favorite ones in the NFL right. 533 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 2: For a lot of reasons. 534 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 8: But you see his face in big moments and it 535 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 8: just doesn't seem it's a big moment for everybody else 536 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 8: except him. And the difference is he actually looks more 537 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 8: focused and more urgent and more ready to go, and 538 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 8: you know, you, you, you know, you just he's just 539 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 8: so laser focused. And there's some guys that play like that, 540 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 8: and there's others that look a little bit phrenetic. I 541 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 8: mean Tiger was like Tiger would look like that in golf. 542 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 8: The bigger the moment, you know, the more determined he looked. 543 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 8: That's probably the right word. And there are certain people 544 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 8: who have I would say, no fear of failure, and 545 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 8: that allows you, that frees you up to go out 546 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 8: and be your best because people that fear of failure well, 547 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 8: then that means they're trying to control it. And when 548 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 8: you feel that lack of control or lack of confidence, 549 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 8: well people can see it on your face. 550 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: A lot of times you could see it in the 551 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: eyes of the quarterback. 552 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 8: So you know, Jaden is very impressive and everything that 553 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 8: he's done, certainly his last year was one of the 554 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 8: great rookie seasons of any young quarterback. 555 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: And again, you know. 556 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 8: We had him last week, we had commanders, giants like 557 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 8: I'm always looking for Okay, that's great, what's the next 558 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 8: step in development? 559 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: And then the next step and the next step and 560 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: the next step. 561 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 8: And you know, from the time that you start to 562 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 8: the time you finished, they're just continues. There needs to 563 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 8: be an upward trajectory every single year based on all 564 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 8: the things that you experience, and so a lot of 565 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 8: things that happen physically, mentally, emotionally over the course of 566 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 8: a career life on the field off the field that 567 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 8: you need to be able to grow with as you 568 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 8: get a little bit older and you continue to develop. 569 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: All right, big game this weekend ratings are up. Tom, 570 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: You sounded great, You sounded comfortable, and congratulations and all 571 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: that stuff. 572 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 2: Hey, good start for everybody. You know what it is. 573 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: I got the best team in the world. 574 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 8: I got the best partner, Kevin Burkhardt next to me, 575 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 8: Aaron and Tom on the field, Zee and Rus down 576 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 8: in the truck along with everybody else. And I love 577 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 8: my team at Fox. I know we're just going to 578 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 8: keep getting better. We're going to stay humble, We're going 579 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 8: to stay hungry. We're just going to keep working as 580 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 8: hard as we can to show up for one another 581 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 8: and try to provide the viewer with the best possible experience. 582 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 8: And this week America's Game of the Week four twenty 583 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 8: five Sunday Eagles at chief couldn't get a better game, 584 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 8: Super Bowl rematch. I am fired up, and it's Thursday afternoon. 585 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: Let's go, Tom Brady LFG, let's go. I'll leave the 586 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: fut the right, let's go. All right, thanks buddy, that's right, 587 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: all right, Tom Brady, he's all fired up. That was 588 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. You got a little Tom Brady as if 589 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: he was in the huddle. I love that Chiefs are 590 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: a home dog for the second time ever with Patrick 591 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: Mahomes as a starting quarterback. 592 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 3: What would be the first? Was it? 593 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: When Brady went there and beat him in the possibly 594 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: listen to Buffalo. Maybe the Buffalo was it when Buffalo 595 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: they beat Buffalo the thirteen second game? Was Buffalo favored 596 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: in that one? 597 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: So Colin, I think I've been here. 598 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 9: Is this year three, I don't know whatever it is, 599 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 9: three or four on this show. I think that may 600 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 9: be the single greatest interview. I'm like taking notes, like 601 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 9: he said some unbelievable stuff, specifically about quarterbacks that you 602 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 9: and I should be talking about our air. 603 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 3: I love that, Tom. I was amazing. I mean that 604 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 3: this incredible stuff. 605 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: The only other instance it was, oh okay, it was 606 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: week six and twenty twenty two was not the playoff game. 607 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: It was weeks six Bills a bad success against Kansas City, 608 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: just not in January. So it was week six they 609 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: beat him, and over the last four seasons, the Eagles 610 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: and the Chiefs are tied for the best record in 611 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. I like Philadelphia by a touchdown or more. 612 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: I think Philadelphia. If you if you lined up twelve 613 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: best player in the game, I think nine are Eagles. 614 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: Now I get Andy Reid, I get Arrowhead, and I 615 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: also get a Chiefs team off a loss, So they're 616 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: going to be salty so that it's it's gonna be 617 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: somewhat close, but a boy. In terms of roster composition, 618 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: If Xavier Worthy can play, that helps. 619 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 9: There's a report now that Worthy may be at practice 620 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 9: today with his teammates. That's good, that's really just emerging 621 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 9: right now. But I can't expect him to play. Come on, 622 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 9: it's a long game. You don't want him to play 623 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 9: in week two. 624 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:54,239 Speaker 1: Come on, Tom Brady, nobody else like him, even on 625 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: our show.