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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace urgent amber alert a missing

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Speaker 1: pregnant girl believed to be with a forty year old

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Speaker 1: sex predator.

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Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 3: A Wisconsin family desperately searching for answers as to the

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Speaker 3: whereabouts of their missing team. Where is Sophia Franklin.

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Speaker 1: Like so many parents, they think everything's fine, their daughter

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Speaker 1: making great grades in school, attending their little Baptist church

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Speaker 1: with them every Sunday. Everything seems to be going along

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Speaker 1: normally in their minds, and then.

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Speaker 4: This listen tonight, there's an active amber alert for sixteen

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Speaker 4: year old Sophia Martin Franklin in Arkansas, more than seven

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Speaker 4: hundred miles from her home in beaver Dam, Wisconsin. Sophia

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Speaker 4: is five foot nine, one hundred and eighty six with

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Speaker 4: brown hair and blue eyes. The teenager, now missing a week,

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Speaker 4: is believed to be traveling in a black twenty fourteen

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Speaker 4: Buick Lacrosse with Pennsylvania plate number KGW five one eighty six.

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Speaker 4: The driver, forty year old abductor, Gary Day, the father

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Speaker 4: of Sophia's unborn child.

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Speaker 1: You were first hearing the beaver Dan police Chief John

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Speaker 1: Kruzeger from our friends at WSN twelve. This is what

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Speaker 1: we know at this hour. A teen girl pregnant by

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Speaker 1: a forty year old sex predator with.

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Speaker 2: A rap sheet.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we don't know what state they could be in,

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Speaker 1: we don't know where they're headed, and we know that

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Speaker 1: he has a history of changing his car tags. Let's

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Speaker 1: see that twenty fourteen Buick one more time.

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Speaker 2: It said Buick Lacrosse.

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Speaker 1: This is the actual vehicle the two are traveling in,

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Speaker 1: unless he changed it out.

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Speaker 2: And I'd like to point out.

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Speaker 1: That this big loser is driving his mother's car. That's right.

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Speaker 1: I did a search on this car and it is

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Speaker 1: actually registered to his mother. Joining me an all star

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Speaker 1: panel to make sense of what we know right now,

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Speaker 1: but to explain how serious this is. Joining me first

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Speaker 1: is Shauna Burns out of North Carolina. This is the

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Speaker 1: mother of a little girl named Haley Burns. Her daughter

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Speaker 1: was also lured online by a much older sex predator

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Speaker 1: when her daughter, Heley, had just turned sixteen. Shauna, what

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Speaker 1: happened in Haley's case.

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Speaker 5: Hailey did not recognize the danger in this situation that

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Speaker 5: she was getting herself into. When she was going to

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Speaker 5: stay with a friend and ended up being held against

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Speaker 5: her wills for three hundred and ninety nine days. And

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Speaker 5: the person that took her was anything but a friend.

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Speaker 1: What exactly happened to Haley, Shawna?

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Speaker 5: He took her and put her in a room first

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Speaker 5: and then ultimately kept her in a dog cage. He

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Speaker 5: starved her, did horrible things to her. Things I can't

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Speaker 5: go into because they're two graphics. But the worst things

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Speaker 5: that you could imagine, those are what he did to

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Speaker 5: my child.

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Speaker 1: With me is a broken hearted mother, Shawna Burns, joining

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Speaker 1: us out of North Carolina. Her little girl, Haley, just sixteen,

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Speaker 1: was abducted by a man, a predator, a sex predator

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Speaker 1: that she met online. And to make matters worse, Shawna Burns,

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Speaker 1: isn't it true that Haley met her kidnapper and rapist

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Speaker 1: in a chat room where he was targeting young girls

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Speaker 1: with eating disorders?

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, he prayed. He prayed on a lot of

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Speaker 5: women in that chat room.

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Speaker 1: How long did he have your daughter?

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Speaker 5: Three hundred and ninety nine days?

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Speaker 1: And during that time we did our best to help

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Speaker 1: find Haley. And when she was found, how much weight

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Speaker 5: Shauna she weighed a bait about eighty six to eighty

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Speaker 5: seven pounds when she came back, and she was.

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Speaker 6: A I cook.

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Speaker 5: I cook every night, I cook every single night. So

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Speaker 5: my kid was a healthy weight when she left, and

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Speaker 5: she came back skin and bones. And one of the

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Speaker 5: hardest things was having to reintroduce food to her because

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Speaker 5: We had to do rice and then chicken, and that

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Speaker 5: When she came home, she just wanted to eat, but

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Speaker 1: Shauna, isn't it true that Haley's kidnap her who met

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Speaker 5: Yes, And the more violent that the acts were, the

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Speaker 1: Guys, you're hearing Shawna Burns describing what happened to her

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Speaker 1: This girl, now pregnant by the predator, has been kidnapped

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Speaker 1: straight out to Alexis Tereschuk joining US Crime online dot

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Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter. I want to go through what happened

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Speaker 1: when Sophia goes missing.

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Speaker 2: Listen Sunday night.

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Speaker 7: Sophia says her usual good nights and turns in around

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Speaker 7: nine pm. Monday morning, around eight am, Sofia's sister spots

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Speaker 7: Gary Days, black buick idling a block down the street.

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Speaker 2: While she calls police.

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Speaker 7: A family member goes to check on Sophia and finds

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Speaker 7: seven forty eight am, the camera catches Day walking up

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Speaker 7: immediately report Sophia missing.

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Speaker 2: Me on the lookout for this sex predator.

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Speaker 1: A forty year old male traveling in a twenty fourteen

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Speaker 2: He has changed license plates.

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Speaker 1: He started off with an Arkansas plate B Brother B

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Speaker 1: Brother R read to zero L Lucy repeat bb R

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Speaker 1: two zero L. We believe, based on intelligence we have received,

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Speaker 1: he is now using a Pennsylvania plate k g W

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Speaker 1: five one eighty six, but is known to change plates. Alexis,

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Speaker 1: let's go back to that Sunday evening when Sophia said

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Speaker 2: What happened then a.

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Speaker 8: Regular Sunday night, cold winter night. She goes to sleep

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Speaker 8: at nine o'clock. Nothing unusual, her parents did. Nothing was

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Speaker 8: unusual that night. They wake up in the next morning,

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Speaker 8: they go into her room, she is not there. Everybody panics.

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Speaker 8: Her sister notices about a block away from the house

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Speaker 8: that there is a car that she thinks is very suspicious.

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Speaker 8: So they go back. Sisters not in the house. They

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Speaker 8: pulls up their security footage whether they have cameras outside

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Speaker 8: kind of running towards their backyard on their security footage

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Speaker 8: that morning. They instantly are terrified for her and they

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Speaker 8: call nine one one and report her missing. And she

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Speaker 8: is only sixteen years old.

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Speaker 1: Brian just turned just turned sixteen. Brian hits Gibbons joining

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Speaker 1: me Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security. He leads a team

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Speaker 1: of investigators specializing and locating missing people. Brian, this guy

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Speaker 1: had the whole thing planted. By the way he has

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Speaker 1: a wrap sheet. Is a sex predator. This guy was

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Speaker 1: idling the sister Sophia's sister noticed a black butte Lacrosse

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Speaker 1: they pull up that morning's video, as Alexis Trestut was describing,

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Speaker 1: around seven ish that morning, they see Day the perp

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Speaker 1: walking up to the home. As he nears the home,

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Speaker 2: The fact that he was lying in wait is very disturbing.

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Speaker 9: Forsgibbons absolutely, Nancy, and that leads me to believe that

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Speaker 9: he was in communication with.

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Speaker 2: Sophia prior to this pickup.

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Speaker 9: We also know that he had an ankle monitoring bracelet

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Speaker 9: that he had removed or allowed to the battery to

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Speaker 9: die that day earlier that day, within twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: Brian, when I hear ankle monitor, my blood boy? Okay,

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Speaker 1: why because people disable them and strict them all the time,

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Speaker 1: all the time. We hear about it discarded or cut

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Speaker 1: off or disabled ankle monitor, Yet we still continue.

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Speaker 2: To do it. And now Sophia is gone pregnant.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you, Brian, how many cases just like

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Speaker 1: this and a shootout and badly, when the sex predator

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Speaker 1: realizes he's cornered, he's caught, he takes himself and the

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, this is an extremely perilous time for Sophia, especially

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Speaker 9: with Day being desperate enough to remove his ankle monitor.

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Speaker 1: I'm very surprised, and I'm gonna get off. Ankle monitor

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Speaker 1: has got bigger fish to fry, Brian. But I'm very

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Speaker 1: surprised when he removed his ankle monitor it did not

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Speaker 1: send some immediate alert to the monitor's supervisor. Wouldn't that

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Speaker 1: have happened? I mean, once you see the mind doesn't

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Speaker 1: taken off, it should send a disabling frequency to the monitor.

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Speaker 9: In this case, I believe it did. Nancy within forty

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Speaker 9: eight hours. You can see in court documents that his

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Speaker 9: probation officer was already filing paperwork to that effect. So

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Speaker 9: the party's in Arkansas and you definitely need it here.

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Speaker 2: Moved Zap forty eight hours.

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Speaker 1: Forty eight hours, Brian. You and I know the stats

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Speaker 1: backwards and forwards. The first three days, really, the first

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours are crucial. Forty eight hours you might

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Speaker 1: as well say forty eight days as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 2: Just think about it, Brian.

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Speaker 1: Sixty mph hour after hour after hour they are on

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Speaker 2: Forty eight hours.

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Speaker 1: Seriously, that's what you've.

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Speaker 2: Got for me.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that radius gets bigger and big as you're saying,

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Speaker 9: you know, forty eight hours is a massive amount of

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Can we talk about Brian

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Speaker 1: Fitzgibbons very quickly before I tell you who this guy

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Speaker 1: really is that has a sixteen year old just turned sixteen,

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Speaker 1: pregnant we think three months pregnant by him and they're

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Speaker 1: on the run. Can we talk about in the vehicle

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Speaker 1: because I believe that's the best possibility, the best chance

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Speaker 1: we've got of finding Sophia alive. Okay, tell me what

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Speaker 1: you know about this black Buick Lacrosse and what's the

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Speaker 1: possibility of a navigation nav system in this So.

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Speaker 9: These twenty fourteen Buick Lacrosse are equipped with an Intelllink

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Speaker 9: navigation system. Now, the important piece here is that the

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Speaker 9: Intello link, the brain behind it that communicates to both

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Speaker 9: cellular and satellite data, is driven by on Star. That

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Speaker 9: on Star module, whether or not Day has an active subscription,

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Speaker 9: can be located with a court order.

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Speaker 2: So on Star he's able to.

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Speaker 1: Pause, pause, pause, See not everybody knows what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: But when you said court order, let me tell everybody,

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Speaker 1: and I have series XM, serious XM and others can

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Speaker 1: be forced to hand over their tracking information, including nav systems.

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Speaker 1: We just saw this in the Alex Murdlock double murder trial,

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Speaker 1: where his NAV system in his suburban told us everything

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Speaker 1: we needed to know about the time he gunned down

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Speaker 1: his wife Maggie and son Paul and then took off

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Speaker 2: Really, you could even see.

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Speaker 1: When he opened the door to leave the crime saying,

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Speaker 1: when he turned the car on, put it in drive,

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Speaker 1: the window back up and took off. It's very advanced,

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Speaker 1: a twenty fourteen Buick Lacrosse.

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Speaker 2: And you said intell a link.

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Speaker 1: What how old is intell link And isn't it true

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Speaker 1: they have to be updated in order to remain current.

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Speaker 9: So intell alink is effectively the interface that the driver

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Speaker 2: For lack of a better term.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen year old Sophia Franklin's online chad with an unknown

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Speaker 2: Where is Sophie?

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Speaker 1: This girl just turned sixteen and is already three to

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Speaker 2: That's right, And you know.

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Speaker 1: What, for those of you just joining us, I want

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Speaker 5: It's not a good dude.

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Speaker 10: He targets young females, uses the internet as you see,

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Speaker 2: And bag once.

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Speaker 4: Gary Day, forty lives in Cabin, Arkansas, and has been

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Speaker 4: Day is not permitted to leave the state of Arkansas

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Speaker 1: Well he did. That was from our friends at News

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Speaker 1: three Now, and we're learning more.

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Speaker 4: Listen, law enforcement discovers the black Buick Lacrosse is registered

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Speaker 11: We do know that he's switching plates right now and

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Speaker 1: Guys, that is beaver Dan Police Chief John Cruisier. Okay,

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Speaker 1: to doctor Bethany Marshall, renowned psycho analys joining us from La,

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Speaker 1: on Peacock, Doctor Bethany. Thank you for being with us,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany. Okay, you know, I might as well get

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Speaker 1: comfortable for you to tell me everything that's going on

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Speaker 1: he's forty, he's almost forty one years old, and he's

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Speaker 12: Let's just start with that. I caught that too, Nancy.

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Speaker 12: I mean, this is a guy, you know. I think

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Speaker 12: he's probably so prolifically involved in his perversion and his

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Speaker 12: even I know he has a job, he's an insurance

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Speaker 2: He probably lives off.

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Speaker 12: His mother, and the fact that he has child abuse

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Speaker 2: He probably tries.

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Speaker 12: To alienate them from their parents. He probably tells them

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Speaker 12: the minute Sophia disagrees with him. I'm sure this is

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Speaker 12: one menacing individual. This is a guy who looks nice

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Speaker 12: is so creepy to me, Nancy. His whole day is

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Speaker 12: he has time to do much else because his whole perversion,

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Speaker 1: Speaking of joining me is veterine trial lawyer, former felony

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Speaker 1: prosecute now defense attorney Darryl Cohen, a partner with Cohen

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Speaker 1: Cooper A step and Allan. Darryl, thank you for being

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Speaker 1: with us, Darryl. How many times in a bond forfeiture

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Speaker 1: calendar when somebody wouldn't show for court would say go

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Speaker 1: I believe that he worked at insurance company. Correct me

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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. Alexis and doctor Bethany, didn't they notice

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Speaker 1: the big fat ankle monitor he was wearing. Why would

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Speaker 1: you keep someone employed not just with a.

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Speaker 2: Police arrest, but with a conviction, With a.

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Speaker 1: Conviction and a big honkin ankle monitor.

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Speaker 13: Nancy, these things happen. You have an ankle monitor because

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Speaker 13: you're not a terrible criminal as far as the system

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Speaker 13: is concerned. You have an ankle monitor because they don't

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Speaker 13: want to incarcerate you. You have an ankle monitor so

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Speaker 13: you can be tracked. They have an ankle monitor that

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Speaker 13: shouldn't come off, that shouldn't lose its battery. But if

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Speaker 1: Okay, see, we all know what you did right in there.

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Speaker 1: I know you got your law degree. But is there

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Speaker 1: a magician hiding deep inside your soul? Because you I

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Speaker 1: ask you this and he tried to show me that.

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Speaker 1: It's like pulling a different rabbit out of the hat.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I asked for. You're talking about what

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Speaker 1: it's the ankle monitors companies fault that they didn't catch him.

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Speaker 2: Let's just hear who we're dealing with.

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Speaker 14: Listen and Grace Day bring their four year old baby,

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Speaker 14: Carter to the emergency room with what they think is

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Speaker 14: a broken leg. Doctors do not believe the parents's story

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Speaker 1: Joining me right now is special guest doctor Stacy Vaughn,

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Speaker 1: vice president of Growth and Prevention at child help dot Org,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite groups, child help dot Org. Doctor

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Speaker 1: Stacy Vaughan, thank you for being with us. Did you

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if his ear and his face got caught

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Speaker 15: Yeah, Nancy, And that's so typical of what happens when

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Speaker 15: children are brought into emergency rooms with a cover story

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Speaker 15: and we learn, you know, through medical exams and tests

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Speaker 1: And you know what, doctor Stacey Vaughn, it didn't end there.

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Speaker 16: Four years later, Grace Day files a police report claiming

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Speaker 1: I do not understand that at all, Daryl Kohen, Can

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Speaker 1: you just take your defense hat off for just one

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Speaker 2: Really, they didn't have enough evidence.

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Speaker 1: You've got a child with a prior where he brought

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Speaker 13: Why maybe, Nancy, they felt like they had enough to

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Speaker 13: push it enough to have him arrested and to give

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Speaker 13: means I am waiting trial. Maybe they didn't feel that

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Speaker 13: they could prove it was him who did it as

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Speaker 1: Okay, Darryl, yes, you no. Do you have any facts

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Speaker 2: Are you just.

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Speaker 1: Spinning it out like rubel Stiltskin, Right, You're spinning no facts.

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Speaker 13: Just basic knowledge of the law, you see, Nancy, basic

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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall before Darryl can say something else, it's

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Speaker 1: the same for second verse, same as the first. The

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Speaker 1: but he's got a potentially broken leg. Then four years later,

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Speaker 2: He walks away.

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Speaker 1: And now so Fia is pregnant and missing with a

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Speaker 12: You know, Nancy, it made me wonder if he is

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Speaker 12: I mean, the crime doesn't just stop with you know,

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Speaker 1: Two?

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Speaker 12: This is just the tip of the iceberg, Nancy. This

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Speaker 1: Daughters from them.

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Speaker 12: This story is going to grow and spread.

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Speaker 2: This guy has a lot.

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Speaker 12: Of time on his hands to take advantage of children.

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Speaker 3: Trouble unfolds in Wisconsin when sixteen year old Sophia Franklin

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Speaker 1: What is he talking about? An older man? It makes

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Speaker 1: is at least four months pregnant. So he started statutorily

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Speaker 1: raping her when she was fifteen. Fifteen, Guys, there were

444
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Speaker 1: so many red flags listen days before her disappearance.

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Speaker 7: Sophia's parents discover a strange Google account on her phone

446
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Speaker 7: and give Beaver Dan Pde permission to investigate it. They

447
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Speaker 7: find disturbing messages between Sophia and Day. Dave repeatedly threatened suicide,

448
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Speaker 7: and Sophia attempts to console him, telling Day he needs

449
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Speaker 7: to live for their daughter, who she has preemptively named

450
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Speaker 7: Ava quote. I know how much you wanted a girl,

451
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Speaker 7: and I know how much you care for your children.

452
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Speaker 7: Day simply responds, tell her, I'm dead.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait, tell the unborn baby girl that they just

454
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Speaker 1: turn sixteen year old little girl is carrying, he says,

455
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Speaker 1: tell her, I'm dead. Threats of suicide are common amongst

456
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Speaker 1: child sex predators, and here it is again, joining me

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Speaker 1: right now a special guest in addition to doctor Bethany

458
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Speaker 1: Marshall and Shawna Burns, to Toyan Jordan joining us. She

459
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Speaker 1: is the chief parent officer at Bark Parental Controls, author

460
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Speaker 1: of Parenting and a Tech World. The parents noticed strange

461
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: Google accounts that couldn't break in, so they bring in

462
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Speaker 1: the sheriff, and what they find is very distressing. It's

463
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Speaker 1: not a new story to Tanya.

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Speaker 6: It's not a new story, Nancy. Unfortunately, so many children

465
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Speaker 6: are being harmed by predators online in places and spaces

466
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Speaker 6: that parents have no idea exists. So the reason that

467
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Speaker 6: we know about the rate at which children are harmed

468
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Speaker 6: online on places like Gmail, et cetera, is because at

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Speaker 6: BARK we helped to protect over seven point four million

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Speaker 6: children across the nation, and just over the course of

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty four, we analyzed almost eight billion activities across

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Speaker 6: places like Gmail, Google docs, text, email, YouTube, over thirty apps.

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Speaker 6: And children are being harmed and grew in places that

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Speaker 6: parents might think are perfectly safe.

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Speaker 1: Straight out to Shauna Burns joining Us. Shauna's daughter Haley

476
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Speaker 1: was lured online. She was missing approximately a year. She

477
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Speaker 1: was kept in a cage, starved, sex abused, beaten. Shauna,

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Speaker 1: before your daughter was kidnapped, her purp was lying about

479
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Speaker 1: who he was and contacting her online, and you had

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Speaker 1: no idea.

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Speaker 5: No, we had absolutely no idea.

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Speaker 17: It's it's exactly what your prosecutor friend was saying earlier.

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Speaker 17: He presented it to her that we would never understand her,

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Speaker 17: we would never be able to.

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Speaker 5: Just accept her the way that she was, and.

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Speaker 17: That he could, and that he could help her with

487
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 17: her innorexia, and that he could help her to get

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Speaker 17: to her ideal weight, and that we were always going

489
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Speaker 17: to want.

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Speaker 9: To find.

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Speaker 1: Her ideal weight. She's just a little girl. She doesn't

492
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Speaker 1: need to be worried about her ideal weight. He preyed

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Speaker 1: upon her, finding her in a chat room. She was actually,

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Speaker 1: as I recall, using a computer at school. Isn't that right, Shauna?

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Speaker 9: Yep.

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Speaker 5: Every bit of communication happened with them at school.

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Speaker 1: So you had no way of knowing, and in your mind,

498
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Speaker 1: Heley was perfectly fine, no indication that this was happening. Guys,

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Speaker 1: same thing here with Sophia. Listen.

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Speaker 14: Sophia Franklin, sixteen is raised in beaver Dam, Wisconsin, in

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Speaker 14: a large, loving family. She's the second oldest of her

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Speaker 14: six siblings, A proud golden Beaver at beaver Dam High

503
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Speaker 14: sings in choir and attends church with her family at

504
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Speaker 14: Bible Baptist every Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Alexis Tereschuk joining me Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter.

506
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Speaker 1: This little girl, Sophia, who is now probably being held

507
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Speaker 1: and some interstate motel with the car hidden somewhere and

508
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Speaker 1: being brought an egg McMuffin from McDonald's in exchange for

509
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Speaker 1: statutory rapes all day long. That's what's happening to her

510
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Speaker 1: right now. That's true.

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Speaker 8: She has been missing.

512
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Speaker 2: She was taken from her home.

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Speaker 8: She is pregnant by this man who is, as you said,

514
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Speaker 8: he's almost forty one years old. This has been ongoing

515
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 8: for months. Her parents have tried to stop this. They

516
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Speaker 8: contacted the police immediately. They showed the police their phone.

517
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Speaker 8: They said, she is still talking to this predator. Nothing

518
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 8: is stopping him.

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Speaker 5: Nothing.

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Speaker 8: He has an ankle monitor only he is able to drive,

521
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 8: he's able to go out in public. He is able

522
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Speaker 8: to get to her. He's cross state lines, violated every

523
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Speaker 8: bit of probation, and still was able to get her.

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Speaker 2: And she left her home.

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Speaker 8: And she is not old enough to, according to law,

526
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Speaker 8: to be able to be making these decisions on her own.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a missing teen girl

528
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Speaker 1: we believe about four months pregnant by a known child predator.

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Speaker 1: He has kidnapped her and they are on the run

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Speaker 1: in a twenty fourteen black Buick Lacrosse joining me an

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Speaker 1: All Star panel. But let me just tell you all

532
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Speaker 1: the warnings were there and there's a backstory.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 7: Gary Day is four years into a six year probation

535
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 7: sentence and is used to surprise visits from his probation officer.

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Speaker 7: But in December, the forty year old seems extremely nervous.

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Speaker 7: When the officer stops by, the supervisor also catches a

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Speaker 7: glimpse of a woman running out the back door. He

539
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 7: immediately chases her down and after an intense line of questioning,

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Speaker 7: gets out that she is just sixteen years old and

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Speaker 7: from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: This is what happened. By the way, when you are

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Speaker 1: on probation or parole, are subject to surprise visits from

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Speaker 1: probation or parole officers. That's what happened here and the

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Speaker 1: perp it's very nervous when the probation parole came to

546
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Speaker 1: the door and then a little girl runs out the

547
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Speaker 1: back who Sophia.

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Speaker 10: Listen, when they went to check on him, somebody around

549
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Speaker 10: at the back door, and that turned out to be

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Speaker 10: a sixteen year old female from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: Sophia Franklin is removed from Day's home and taken from

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Speaker 4: a medical examination while authorities contact her family. Her parents

553
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 4: are shocked and horrified to learn their daughter has been

554
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 4: with a predator and even more a paul to learn

555
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: she's pregnant. Sophia is returned to Wisconsin as quickly as possible,

556
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Speaker 4: and her parents take every step possible to protect her

557
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Speaker 4: from day and help their daughter heal.

558
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Speaker 1: Dever From our friends at CBAS Chicago, Alexis Tereschuk joining

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Speaker 1: us clime online dot com Alexis, how did she end

560
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Speaker 1: up in his home before the kidnapped?

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Speaker 8: They started talking to each other online. She then convinced

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Speaker 8: her parents that she wanted to go stay with a friend.

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Speaker 8: It was summertime. She wanted to go visit and stay

564
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Speaker 8: with his friend, so they said okay. They believe she

565
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Speaker 8: was going to stay with his friend. In the meantime,

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Speaker 8: he had been telling her that he was going to

567
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Speaker 8: come get her. He did. He came and got her.

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Speaker 8: She went and stayed at his house. He crossed state

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Speaker 8: lines to get her. He took her back to Arkansas

570
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Speaker 8: from Wisconsin, and that's where she was saying and her

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Speaker 8: friend was helping her lie to her parents. They were

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Speaker 8: all lying and saying that she was with a friend.

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Speaker 8: Nobody knew that she was with this old man predator.

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Speaker 1: Oh my stars. Doctor Bethany Marshall. One little week or

575
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Speaker 1: two sleep away during the summer turns into this, and

576
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Speaker 1: when his parole probation officer knocks on the door, they

577
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Speaker 1: see a girl running out of the back.

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Speaker 2: It's her.

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Speaker 1: He has been targeting her and statutorally raping her for

580
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Speaker 1: so long. That's how she got pregnant.

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Speaker 12: He was grooming her. He was alienating her from her parents.

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Speaker 12: He was making her feel special and unique and desirable

583
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 12: and understood in ways that she imagines nobody else can.

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Speaker 12: He made her feel that the family going through the

585
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 12: Baptist church was sort of all wrong, in a perverse

586
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Speaker 12: kind of life, and that the life he could offer

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00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 12: her was great. Little does he know, does she? Little

588
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 12: does she know? He's driving his mother's car. He probably

589
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 12: has no money, nothing to offer her. He's a pervert.

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00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 12: He's abusive. He doesn't even treat his own children kindly.

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Speaker 12: He probably has other girls he's grooming, so when she

592
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Speaker 12: ages out, he can move on to the next victim, Nancy,

593
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 12: because that's what they do. They only victimize for a

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Speaker 12: certain period of time until the control slips.

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Speaker 2: Then they lose interest in the.

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Speaker 12: Victim and they go on to another one. It's not

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00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 12: like stalkers who stay in love with the victim, maybe

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Speaker 12: for years at a time.

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00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: These predators only.

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Speaker 12: Want the children as long as they can have power

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Speaker 12: over them and alienate them from the parents, and then

602
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 12: when that power slips, Nancy, they are not interested anymore.

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00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: That's what I'm worried about.

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Speaker 1: When she wakes up in that roadside motel and realizes

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Speaker 1: she wants to go home, he's already threatened to commit suicide.

606
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: What will happen? Then to Tania Jordan joining US Chief

607
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Speaker 1: Parent Office at BART Parental Controls, author of Parenting in

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Speaker 1: a tech world.

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00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 2: To Tanya, it's.

610
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: Always lies, and these predators actually target the child online.

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00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: They find things out about them like, oh, she goes

612
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Speaker 1: to Bible Baptist church. Oh she plays soccer. Oh she

613
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: goes to beaver Dam High School. They find out things

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00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 1: by looking up the child's profile online. Then they start

615
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: befriending the child. Oh I play soccer too, Oh I

616
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: was a beaver My cousin goes to that high school,

617
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: so she graduated last year. You probably don't know her.

618
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, and they start spanning the tale.

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Speaker 6: To Tanya, Nancy, it is so important for every parent

620
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Speaker 6: and every caregiver to realize that there's over half a

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Speaker 6: million predators online at any given time that we know of,

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Speaker 6: and that's according to the FBI. So please don't think

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Speaker 6: not my child. It's not a matter of if, but

624
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Speaker 6: when they're going to encounter somebody trying to message them

625
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Speaker 6: online to groom them, befriend them, and worse. And that's

626
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Speaker 6: why we've got to have these conversations proactively.

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00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: Please don't think not my kid. There's a very famous

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Speaker 1: quote that says, if that is the law, then the

629
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Speaker 1: law is an ass truer words we're never spoken.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this.

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Speaker 14: Unfortunately, law enforcement has a hard time holding Day accountable

632
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 14: at the age of content in Arkansas is sixteen, so

633
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Speaker 14: Day is not committed a chargeable sex crime. Day is

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Speaker 14: charged with violating this probation, contributing to the delinquency of

635
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Speaker 14: a minor, and interfering with custody. The Franklins push for

636
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 14: more serious charges in Wisconsin, but for now are only

637
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 14: able to obtain a no contact order with Day.

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00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 10: It's an antiquated law rules. We're going to work on

639
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Speaker 10: changing that. I'm going to work with some of our

640
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Speaker 10: legislators and go to reach out to them, let them

641
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Speaker 10: know that that's something we we probably should change, especially

642
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Speaker 10: with all the trafficking and the issues that we have.

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Speaker 2: Probably should change.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's the Arkansas Sheriff John Steally, and that's my

645
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 1: friends at five News and antiquated law Darryl Cohen.

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Speaker 2: And antiquated law. That you know what that says to me.

647
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Speaker 1: It's been around so long you should know you have

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Speaker 1: to fix it, but nobody's done anything. And now Sophia

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00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: is with a forty one soon to be forty one

650
00:37:54,760 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: year old predator and some motel getting statutorily raped and

651
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: exchange her in egg McMuffin.

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00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: That's what's happening.

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Speaker 13: And see, in Arkansas, it is not statutorily raped, whether

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Speaker 13: we like it or not, and I don't. She has

655
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Speaker 13: the right as a sixteen year old to engage in

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Speaker 13: sex as long as it's voluntary. Other states.

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Speaker 1: In Arkansas, in Arkansas, but wait a minute, wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: In Wisconsin, the age of consent is eighteen. I believe

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Speaker 1: they started having sex relations if you can call it that,

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Speaker 1: when she's fifteen, because she's sixteen and four months pregnant.

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Speaker 1: But that said, so you're telling me it's okay for

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Speaker 1: him to go and get her out of Wisconsin, where

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Speaker 1: the age of consent is eighteen, take her across state

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Speaker 1: lines to Arkansas and rape her.

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Speaker 2: And that's okay.

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Speaker 13: I'm not saying it's okay. I'm saying the little you

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Speaker 13: will not prevent. Well, it sounds like I am, but

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Speaker 13: I'm not. I'm saying the losses that she can engage

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Speaker 13: voluntarily in sex in Arkansas when she is sixteen or.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yet me rephrase my question. Isn't it a felony

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Speaker 1: to take a minor across state lines for the purposes

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Speaker 1: of sex? Think Jared Fogel, the subway guy?

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Speaker 2: Does that?

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Speaker 1: Jog your recollection regarding the black and white letter of

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Speaker 1: the law.

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Speaker 2: Daryl Cohen, do I.

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Speaker 13: Like what happened?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 1: The man Act is the man answering?

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Speaker 13: That is a federal law. Did he violate?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 13: You know what likely he did.

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Speaker 1: If I held you over a fire with your toes

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Speaker 1: dangling in the flames, you would never admit what he

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Speaker 1: did is a crime. Okay, let's deal with reality. Brian Fitzgibbons,

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Speaker 1: I'm never going to get the right answer out of

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Speaker 1: Daryl Cohen. I completely understand that. That's why I win

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Speaker 1: so many cases. Can we talk about how we're going

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Speaker 1: to find her?

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Speaker 9: At this point, Nancy, We've got to be looking at

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Speaker 9: Number one, Can we track the vehicle? If that's simple possible,

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Speaker 9: we have to start looking at cell phones? Where is

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Speaker 9: Gary Day getting money to survive? At this point, those

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Speaker 9: are the three top issues that I would be looking at.

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Speaker 9: It's number one, the vehicle tracking, number two cell phone tracking,

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Speaker 9: and then the third The third spot would be how

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Speaker 9: is he staying alive here? How are they eating? Where

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Speaker 9: are they staying? Where is he getting funding?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 1: I can guarantee you this fitz Givens, they ain't at

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Speaker 1: the RITZ. If you know or think you know anything

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Speaker 1: about the location of Sophia, please dial beaver d MPD

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Speaker 1: nine two zero eight eight seven four six one two

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Speaker 1: repeat nine two zero eight eight seven four six one two,

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Speaker 1: or the Amber Alert tip line eight eight eight three

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Speaker 1: zero four three nine three six repeat eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: three zero four three nine three six, or reach out

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Speaker 1: to our friends at child help dot Org. You can

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Speaker 1: find them online or at eight hundred for a Child

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Speaker 1: eight hundred four two two four four five eight. I

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Speaker 1: can't stress how many cases like this end in further tragedy,

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Speaker 1: Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend,