1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: This is the business of sports. Should Major League Baseball 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: shorten up the season? How do we present football to 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: the audience of the future. I don't think that most 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: players understand the power that they have. Michael Barr. The 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: future of Indy car racing is looking bright. Scott Sashnik, 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: very basic math here, more bidders means more money. Evan 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Nobody Williams. The team value has essentially quadrupled. And the 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: leaders in the sports industry time to bring an our guest, 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Hal Slimbrunner, National Hockey League Commissioner Gary Bettman, Atlanta Braves 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: president Derek Schiller, Patriots President Jonathan Kraft. Bloomberg Business of 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: Sports from Bloomberg Radio. Hello, I'm Michael barn I'm Evan 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 1: Novie Williams. Late and slow, Evan Novie Williams, I'm Scott Sashnik. 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to a special Labor Day edition of Business of Sports. 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: Over the next hour, we will explore the big money 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: issues in that world. Oh man, we got a lot 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: to talk about. And by the way, happy Labor Day everybody. 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: You're listening by the barbecue in the car, on the plane, 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: on the badges. Bically sure Lake in in Idaho, very 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: exciting lake and Idaho and whatever. Wait wait yeah, back 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: up for that was like bar that was like something, 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: where are you going? Man heading up to Idaho? Up 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: to Poise for a week, said it properly Tahoe for 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: a wedding. I mean's gonna wind up where he's gonna 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: be doing the show one day remote from Poissey because 25 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: he just he wants he wants to put the flannel 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: on get his He has an act like a custom 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: handle at Swedish Acts. Yeah, that's the life he wants. 28 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: I thought you were just doing a shout out. No, no, 29 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: what are you doing? I Am going to the True 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: Value in Milford because I have to do some yardwork 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: plaza there will open. Oh my god, what what work? 32 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: Your yard work? You said? Why don't you come to 33 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: my house and do it? I mean, I'll do it 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: with you, but like you know, you can help me out. Yeah, 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm a new suburbanite. I'm not all that knowledgeable. You 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: didn't what's gotta go in? What stays? We got a 37 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: get a lot to talk about, and let's start with 38 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: a national football A lot of candles on the NFL cake. 39 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: You start, it could start a big fire man, if 40 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: you're not careful with that candles And we're gonna have 41 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: a little something next week. I cannot say what it 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: is yet NFL related, but I just got off the 43 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: phone with one Roger Goodell. I think something fans will 44 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: really enjoy. Um, let's just say the game experience is 45 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: in for an upgrade. That's all I can say at 46 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: this point. That's all I can say. But Roger's excited. Yeah, 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. In talking to Roger, I mean he's 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: been there solo. Let's not forget Roger started as an intern. 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: I mean he has really say, seen this change and 50 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 1: things that sometimes from the outside seem big and oh 51 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: this massive see change in in the business of football, 52 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: And then he kind of jerks you back. He's like, Scott, 53 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, like, we've been dealing with this 54 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: for thirty years, you know. So it's it's it's a 55 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: little different when you're on the inside versus obviously when 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: you're when you're just purveyors of the sport. But on 57 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: the business side, it's sort of this constant churn that 58 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: that's the constant that nothing stays the same. But that 59 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: thirty two group of owners a whole lot of power. 60 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: And that's it's kind of like the Constitution. They can 61 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: change whatever they want if there's enough of them that 62 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: feel a certain way. All they have to do is 63 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: change the rules. And financially, UH in a pretty good 64 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: place right now. You know there are a lot of 65 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, there there's a lot of critics out there 66 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: of the NFL. I think that, you know, some of 67 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: their points are certainly valid. But financially the thing keeps 68 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: coming along. Fifteen billion dollars in revenue last year, Roger 69 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: has a fairly well publicized target of getting to twenty 70 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: five billion. Would seem perhaps a little bit of a 71 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: stretch when it was said, but now you look at it, 72 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: and you look at the new TV deals when they're 73 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: up in two and you say, wait a minute. When 74 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: you hear Evan, I mean you want I speak to 75 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: a lot of TV executives and O T T executives now, 76 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: and all they say is, boy, the NFL is just 77 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: so darn important. It's transformative. It's a transformative property. Way 78 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: back when what it did for Fox, you get the 79 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: feeling like it's still that important. I keep thinking about 80 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: what I believe Eric Shanks said to you a couple 81 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: of months ago. Right the moment that he renews his NFL, 82 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: I thing on his mind is getting the next I 83 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: think it was if I had signed, if I had 84 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: just signed a ten year renewal the NFL, the thing 85 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: foremost on my mind would be renewing after that. But see, 86 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: I gotta jump in because you say TV deal. I 87 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: always think of like an old zenip that I've got 88 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: TV means we're talking everything from streaming, so many things 89 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: that we're talking about. Uh, it's mind boggling. Yeah, I mean, 90 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: you and I have kids. I've been not yet, But 91 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: it's all about the tablet and the phone. I mean, 92 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: everything is surrounding that experience. And and that's not only 93 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: at home where you have second and third screen experience. 94 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: And now of course we've fantasy and you've got sports 95 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: betting where you're looking at so much more. You want stats, 96 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: you want highlights. You want to know what's going on 97 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: in all the other cities. You want to have your 98 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: fantasy's team is doing. You want to know how your 99 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: buddies team is doing. You need to track all that. 100 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: But also the in stadium experience, there's that constant battle 101 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: between the fans at home, which is where you can scale. 102 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: But nobody wants to play in front of empty stadiums. 103 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that doesn't make for it. I 104 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: don't think the NFL has that problem though, But but 105 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: but you know, it's troblem isn't as bad as base, 106 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: but it's there. There are there fans that need to 107 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: show up. But how but how many times have you 108 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: heard bar? And you've probably uttered it yourself. Let's keep 109 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: in mind, by the way, that not everybody lives near stadium. 110 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: A vast majority of the country does not live near 111 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: an NFL and NFL stadium. But how many times have 112 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: you heard it? I don't want to deal with the 113 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: ingress and egress. It's so expensive to part the food 114 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: is expensive and bathroom lines. Think it's just easier to 115 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: stay at home. We have a lot to talk about. 116 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: We've been talking about the NFL, and there are more 117 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: subjects in the NFL. Of course, we've had the surprise 118 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: retirement of Andrew Luck uh and can't blame the guy. 119 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: I mean, so much pain. We'll get to we'll get 120 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: to it. We're gonna get to that. We're gonna get it. 121 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: But there was another guy who had to retire early. 122 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 1: And his name was Terrell Davis, who was at running 123 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: back for Denver. And now he is starting a new 124 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: company and it involves CBD and I had a chance 125 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: to talk with him on the phone about that. Yeah, 126 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: we've you know, our company is called the Five and 127 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: we are launen a performance UM it's a drink, but 128 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: it's helping well in this company. And we start off 129 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: with our performance line of drinks that's really designed to 130 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: help help you perform, maintain, rest and recover. And so 131 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: we've we've been doing that since May. We have three flavors. 132 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: We have a orange main goal, We've got a mixed 133 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: berry and eliminade. And my product of designed to to 134 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: really help you perform and UM, you know we have 135 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: us it's we have the electro lights in our our drink, 136 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: we have the vitamins, we have m things that help 137 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: you recovering. The most important thing that we have is 138 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: we have a high performance TBD that has zero T 139 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: T in it, which is a UM. There's the main 140 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: ingredient that kind of make you, you know, the psychoactive 141 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: party that we removed. You played for a number of 142 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: years in the National Football League, if you had something 143 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: like this back then, how long could your career extend? Yeah, 144 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: I'd like to think for a long time. You know, 145 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: as a professional player, we're always in tune with our 146 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: bodies and you know peak performance that we always chased 147 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: to that. You know, how do you get the body 148 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: to perform at the highest level. And it's all always 149 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: about recovering and trying to get back and into filling 150 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: your best every single Sunday or Monday or whatever they 151 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: you play on. And so you know, when I was playing, 152 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: there were many weeks and and days where I did 153 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: and recover as fast as I would have liked. And 154 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, CBD and it's properties in terms of pain management, 155 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: working with inflammation, allowing you to recover and rest for 156 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: things that an athlete who's trying to be at the 157 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: highest level needs. And so I would like to think 158 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: that if I, if this was available to me, then 159 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: that I would have played a lot longer because injuries 160 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: forced me out of the game. Why has the NFL 161 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: not allowed CBD? I mean, I get the the th 162 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: HC part, but CBD that's something different altogether, and it 163 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: seems like that would help athletes, uh manage the pain. 164 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: Why do you think the NFL has not allowed that? Well, 165 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: to this point, I think what they're doing, and I've 166 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: spoken to them, it's it's just it's a process for them, 167 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: and the process is that they have to do. You know, 168 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: they have to look at it and do studies um 169 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: on you on the product to make sure that it 170 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: has the efftasies of it um you know, to see 171 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: if there's any side effects. And so they want to 172 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: do their own studies to make sure that when they 173 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: say okay, the thumbs up or green light, that they 174 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: can stand by you know, the product or they in Greek, 175 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: and so that's where they are. Now. It's gonna be 176 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: a process. They're not saying no, they're not saying that 177 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: they're not looking at it, because they are looking at it. 178 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: They're just doing the research and their homework before they 179 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: able to say it, because before you know, it was 180 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,119 Speaker 1: lumped into the same category as the other UH substances, 181 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: and so you know, it's it's just it's just matt 182 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: on time. Before you know. The league's I'm saying all 183 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: leagues are gonna accept it at some point, but I 184 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: think they're all have to say, all have to do 185 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: their homework. You know, we've partnered with with any car 186 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: and had to go through a very very detail and 187 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: thorough kind of you know, I guess process to make 188 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: sure that we were we were legit for redemb running back. 189 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: Terrell Davis, terrolld Davis, and you heard that last part 190 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: of his company to find that they've also teamed up 191 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: not only with Tennis Stars, but also with IndyCar and 192 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: in de car is not going to let their driver 193 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: go on a race track with a product that they 194 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: think is going to make people high. CBD has, from 195 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: what Mr Davis was saying and many others, has a 196 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: lot of benefits. Maybe something that Andrew Luck could have used, 197 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: Maybe something now that Gronk is going to use because 198 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: he has his own CBD eventure. I'm gonna give you 199 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: an anecdote, one of the best anecdotes I've ever had, 200 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: and it ties into Terrell Davis because it was a 201 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos Super Bowl. I can't remember which ones are 202 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: which anymore. I mean, I covered so many of them, 203 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: they all just kind of run together. But remember Mark Schlareth. Yeah, 204 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: So I was talking to Mark Schlare that when he 205 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: was with the Broncos at one of these Super Bowls, 206 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: and he told me that he has the very first 207 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: piece of cartilage he had removed from his knee in 208 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: a little jar in his locker. He kept it there 209 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: sort of like a reminder. And by at this point 210 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: he had had something like twin any knee surgeries. And 211 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: I think the lead to my story was something like 212 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: Mark Schlareth likes to say he's got more cartilage in 213 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: his locker than his knee, which might be true, which 214 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: might be true, and which gives you a glimpse into 215 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: what it takes to play in the National Football League. 216 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: The toll it takes unbodi. But then now what we're 217 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: hearing more and more is you gotta take that next step. 218 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: The toll it takes on mind. And that's what we've 219 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: heard from Andrew Luck. Yeah, I think that's the big thing. 220 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: I actually don't think enough people are are talking about this. 221 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: If you listen to what Andrew Luck said when he retired, 222 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: what Gronkowski said, uh recently when he launched his company, 223 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: and he talked about the same things that Andrew Luck 224 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: was saying. You know, physically, Rob Gronkowski can play in 225 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. He said that himself, physically he can do it, 226 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: mentally he couldn't get there right. And this is you know, 227 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: we grouped them together. Rob Gronkowski is one of the 228 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: fun loving, probably the most football love player that the 229 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: NFL had, right, the idea that he is talking about 230 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: being in a dark place, crying at night, you know, 231 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: not being able to get himself excited for for for football. 232 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: This has to scare the NFL. If I'm a GM, 233 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: if I'm a coach, if I'm an owner, this idea, 234 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: that future that current stars, guys in their prime, guys 235 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: who are going to make another ten hundred million dollars 236 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: if they keep playing, are saying, you know what, that's 237 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: not That's not enough for me to keep me playing 238 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: this game. That must scare them. You you mentioned about 239 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: march Lareth and another ESPN analysts, but at the time 240 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: was march Lyrith used to be with the ESPN at 241 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: one point Mike Golic, uh he when he played, he said, 242 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: after the end of every season, you know, they would 243 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: have what they call us, you know, go get cleaned 244 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: up and have the operations that they needed whatever. And 245 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: he also mentioned that before every game they had a 246 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: bowl full a Viking and they would just grab the 247 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: viking in and and go absolutely and bread Father about that. Yeah, 248 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: it's just a we've got a great adectande Also from 249 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: just a couple of days ago, I went over to 250 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: the XFL headquarters to see some friends and some folks, 251 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: and I brought my son and so we have a 252 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: ten year old and he met Oliver Luck. So we 253 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: had a nice little conversation. Oliver actually like picked him up. 254 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: He's like, oh man, you're ready for some collisions kind 255 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: of deal, right, And then when we left and I'm like, no, no, no, 256 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: no he's not. But then I said to my son, 257 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: do you know who that is? And he was like no, no, 258 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: well I had to that's Andrew Luck's father. And then 259 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: we had this big conversation because his teammates were like, 260 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: oh Andrew Lucky quit and people don't like him. I'm like, 261 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: it's a person you got to see. There's his dad. 262 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: This is a real person, not just somebody you see 263 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: on TV. Lots of sports topics to talk about, and 264 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: let's move on now to Mr Tony Romo, who now, 265 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: let's say he wants a raise, he wants a big race. 266 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: Romo wants and in keeping with is on TV persona, 267 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: he should probably know already if he's going to get it, 268 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: because he's so good at predicting what's going to happen. 269 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: But I get an old guy out of give me 270 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: a break on this score. So he wants ten million 271 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: dollars a year, unprecedented for an analyst. The question is 272 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: the calculus has to go on at CBS and at 273 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: the others. Is he worth it? Is he worth viewers, eyeballs, 274 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: advertising dollars or is the game the game and people 275 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: are going to tune in no matter who's doing the game. 276 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: Ten million dollars. That's half of what the G seven 277 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: countries committed to fighting fire in the Amazon. To put 278 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: that in perspective, is a big number. Tribute question for 279 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: you guys, what how many Tony Romo played for fourteen seasons? 280 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: How many seasons do you think he made total cash 281 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: over ten million dollars? I'm gonna say one, I'll say two, four. 282 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: It looks like a right, um, So you know this 283 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: is this is more than this is more than he 284 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: made an final NFL season. It was kind of roughly 285 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more than his annual salary. If you 286 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: average it out for for the bulk of the back 287 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: half of his career. Uh, this is a this is 288 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: a big this is a big number. Well, you know what, 289 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it. I'm all for people. Get 290 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: your money, get what you can get, get if you 291 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: if you can get it, get it. And I know 292 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: people are gonna say, well, he doesn't deserve it, or 293 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: this and that or whatever, but I'm all for it. 294 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: If someone says, Mr bar here's ten million dollars to 295 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: go do a newscast, Hell yeah, I'm I'm all in there. 296 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: Um that love? Was that a sorry spicy coin? Um? 297 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: So I don't think anybody again, this is business of sport. 298 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: It's just business. If CBS ultimately decides that Tony Romo 299 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: brings in viewers or enough viewers so that they can 300 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: charge more and people watch, I can only speak for myself. 301 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't not care less who was broadcasting a game. 302 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: Do I like it if I get one of the 303 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: folks that I really enjoy watching? Yes? Do I Will 304 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: I watch the hockey game if it's dock Emrick, Yes? 305 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: Will I watch it if it's anybody else but it's 306 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: the same game? Yes, all right? I'm gonna ask you 307 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: a question. Okay, remember when Monday Night Football on ABC 308 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: and they tried their experiment with no announcers, well not 309 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: that one Miller, that was with Dennis Miller. What did 310 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: you think of that. I enjoyed the Dennis Miller. I 311 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: didn't shut it off because of him. Again, it's just 312 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: no one. I always have the option. I've got mute buttons, 313 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: I've got I've got the hammer, I've got control. The 314 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: question is do people tune in because of it and 315 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: do it or do they shut it off because of it? 316 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think people shut it off 317 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: because of Dennis Miller. In fact, I liked it when 318 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: Dennis Miller was on there. I wish they would have 319 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: kept it going, but they had They had thought about 320 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: bringing Charles Barkley on Monday Night Football as well. Charles 321 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: told me that years ago when I was visiting him 322 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: on the T N T S. Yeah, yeah, I wrote 323 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: the story way back when It's funny. When I went 324 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 1: down there, everything was on the record. We agreed that 325 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: because you wanted sort of the camaraderie. And this is 326 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: everybody knows the show now, but this is just when 327 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: it was becoming big. Um. So I went down with 328 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: the understanding that from the moment I step on, everything's 329 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: on the record, right, And Charlis blurted out in a 330 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 1: phone call something like oh yeah, well you know they 331 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: want me on Monday night football, and and so I 332 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: followed up. He's like, oh wait, uh but you know hey, 333 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: he said, well I said it, so you know we 334 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: wrote that story. Yeah. They're always looking for ways to 335 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: to enhance the broadcast and prove the broadcast. But Tony 336 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: almost really good. He's almost revolutionary in the fact that 337 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: I have all analysts, all top analysts prepare, but you 338 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: got the feeling like you were watching somebody and Tony 339 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: Romo was in the headsets. He knows what's coming and 340 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: it's really cool to watch. That's great. I just don't 341 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: know if it's a dollar value add to the broadact. Well, 342 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: I would argue that there may be a little bit 343 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: more to what Tony Brown remote brings to CBS than 344 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: just whether good unknown NFL player is going to tune 345 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: in or fan is going to tune in to watch 346 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: this game or not. You know, he works very well 347 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: with Jim Nance, right. He you can easily see him 348 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: transitioning over and doing some golf with CBS as well. 349 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: You know, if he is so good that he is 350 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: winning Emmy Awards for their coverage of NFL, I mean 351 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: you're considered brand. Yeah, absolutely, yes, good, this is the 352 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: discussion we should be Yes. And by the way, and 353 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: a shout out to Jim Nance because I think he 354 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: doesn't excellent stuff in the booth. You have to have 355 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: no no, no, no no decorated no. I'm just saying, you 356 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: have to have a guy who can guide you through 357 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: the waters. Yes, you have the navigator who is the 358 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: the analysts, but you have to have the guy through 359 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: the water. And I and saying that when I saw 360 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: the experiment years ago of NBC when they did the 361 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: announcer list game, I didn't like it, okay, because you know, 362 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: if I wanted to go get a beer or something whatever. Uh, 363 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know what was happening in the game. Okay, 364 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: I'm saying through the waters, the mighty waters for Michael Barry. 365 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: Didn't like. Lots of topics that we've been talking about. 366 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: We have more. Let's start again now with the Yes 367 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: Network and the latest with that. What's going on with that, folks? 368 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: The latest is everything you heard about, it came true. 369 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: The deal closed. So now the question is the Yankees 370 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: have the dominant share of the ownership, but they're bringing 371 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: in Sinclair as well as Amazon. And of course that's 372 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: the interesting part of this. We know Sinclair has broadcast 373 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: hef great, makes perfect sense. But the synergy partner in 374 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: all this here on the tech side is Amazon. So 375 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: now we need to look forward and say what's the 376 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: strategy here? Baseball is changing with regard to its digital rules. 377 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: We heard that from Steve rab teams would like more control. 378 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: What role will Amazon play in all this and a reimagined, 379 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: a reenvisioned Yes, that will certainly be more than just 380 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: in an air quote just a regional sports network. Yeah, 381 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: let's actually explain that to listeners who aren't familiar exactly 382 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: with how these rights get broken up. Regional sports net 383 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: networks like Yes Network, they get linear broadcast rights to 384 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: the Yankees, right they own those rights. They do not 385 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: have the digital rights. So if Yes Network wanted to 386 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: right now put an over the top digital offering to 387 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: let you, if you're not a subscriber to a cable provider, 388 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: to let you watch Yankee games on your computer or 389 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: your phone. They can't do that right now, that's not 390 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: an option. Um So if Baseball, as is expected, changes 391 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: those rules and lets the Yankees sell those togital rights, 392 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: suddenly that becomes an option for Yes network, and by 393 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: virtue of the fact that they have a stake in 394 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: the network, that becomes an option for Amazon. So if 395 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: Slash when those rules do change, then suddenly all the 396 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: options for Amazon from a digital perspective open up and 397 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: global distribution. Again, let's let's remember that this doesn't work 398 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: for everybody. That there was this exactly, but there was 399 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: this pan of c away back. I already thought that 400 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: the regional sports network was the answer to everybody's financial concerns, woes, 401 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. And then they tried 402 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: it in Houston didn't work out so well. So it's 403 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: not just sort of one size fits all. This is 404 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: the answer in all marketplaces. The Cubs are coming out 405 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: with a regional sports network with Sinclair. You'd have to 406 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: think that the Cubs brand, both locally as well as internationally, 407 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: is strong enough to survive such a thing. The Dodgers 408 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: did their deal. They bought the team sort of with 409 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: the full dollars of time Warner coming in, but they 410 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: don't have full distribution. So all these years later, there's 411 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: still plenty of folks in l A who can't see 412 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: the Dodgers and it doesn't seem to be a perceptible 413 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: damage to the brand right now. But that's the Dodgers. 414 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: So this is not for everybody but the Yankees. What 415 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, Jay Z puts him in his songs. I 416 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: I make the Yankee going more more more popular than 417 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: the famous than the Yankee. You can I'm not sure 418 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: that's true, but you can go almost anywhere on the 419 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: planet these days, bar and don't be shocked if you 420 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: see somebody with a shirt or hat with the interlocking N. 421 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: Why it would seem to me and RSN would work 422 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: in a city where you have all four major food 423 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: groups going. Obviously they I mean it wasn't hockey, but 424 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: they tried in Houston and there was some fighting and 425 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: some lawsuits. They just it's it's about what is it 426 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: worth how much you're going to charge your customers person, 427 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: and people just were not willing to pay that. The 428 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: carriers were not willing to pay the asking price. They 429 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: just didn't see the value. You also don't get the 430 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: biggest sport and you don't get the NFL, right, so 431 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: you know that that that will probably never happen. I 432 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: mean maybe it will, but the home of the Jet 433 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: of the Jets game, and you can get a little 434 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: bit more courage, right, but you're not going to see 435 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: the games they're forget about that. By the way, I 436 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: gotta ask real quick before we move on, uh Jet season, 437 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: what do you think? Because I like Sam Donald, I 438 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: Levian Bill, I love that. What do you think can 439 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: they make the playoffs uniforms? That's that's pretty much what 440 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: I know. That's the only thing I don't like. I'd 441 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: like the old football with the Jets in there, and 442 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: now they went they kind of went retro back to 443 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: the eighties where they did the Jets. Yeah, everybody needs 444 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: to do if they're serious about being serious in Jets 445 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: Land with the every Jets fan and the players and 446 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: the coaching staff, Jets Nation, Gang Green needs to get 447 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: together and everybody needs to wear the throwback Kevin Arnold jacket. 448 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: And if you don't know what I'm talking you're probably 449 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: If you don't know what I'm talking about, tough, then 450 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: go google the Kevin Arnold Jets jacket. That's what will happen. 451 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: That's what will propel the Jets to classic starter jacket. 452 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: Don't make me tell my we view Bank story, the 453 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: one that gets edited. Everybody coming me privately on Twitter 454 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: if you want to know the we view Bank story. 455 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: Oh man. Uh, let's talk about college sports. The landscape 456 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: football in college sports. Uh, it's going uh and believe 457 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: it or not, college basketball is going to start fairly soon. 458 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: I was walking as you know, guys know, I was 459 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: on vacation at Atlantis and the Bahamas, and they had 460 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: the posters up everywhere for the you know, the challenge 461 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: they they put up every year there. They say it 462 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: draws a good crowd. I'm sure they say stay way 463 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: if you don't, if you just want to relax, don't 464 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: come here that weekend because it's just total influxible. Crazy 465 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: to think that we're talking college basketball went. College football 466 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: just finished it week week one. Um. But yeah, I mean, 467 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: if we think about, you know, looking forward to the 468 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: next six months, eight months, there seemed to be a 469 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: lot of changes coming in college sports. Um, you know, 470 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: the lawsuits government looking into it. I'm very interested in 471 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: this Michael Lavnati lawsuit I'm surprised that it's not getting 472 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: more attention. He's certainly not the most reliable of plaintiffs 473 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,719 Speaker 1: at this point. However, the limited evidence that has been 474 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: overturned so far has been fairly compelling. Um. I don't 475 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: think any real college basketball fan would be shocked to 476 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: learn that, you know, the sports, to the sports brands 477 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: and schools and coaches, high profile names you know, like 478 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: Zion Williamson, DeAndre Ayton, that they may be involved in 479 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: these illicit payments. Couldn't care less if they took money, 480 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: could not care less the problem. I think I agree 481 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: with you person only, and I think most fans do. 482 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: But the n c A has to care of course, 483 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: and either they when all this settles, either they come 484 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: down hard and enforce their rules, which I think will 485 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: kind of expose on the problem with where they are, 486 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: or they admit that, you know that the structure we 487 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: have right now, you know, isn't sustainable, It's not even real. 488 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: It's more of a mirrage than anything, and and they 489 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: have to accept change. So either way, I'm fascinated to 490 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: see when the dust settles on all this, where the 491 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: n c A comes out. Do you know what I'm 492 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: excited for go ahead, Barb, excited to see what you 493 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: were going to say. No, I was just gonna say, 494 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: is that I kind of agree with you guys? Is 495 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: that I remember? I want to change that there was 496 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: I change whatever about I want to change my vote. No, 497 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean I remember years ago when e A Sports 498 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: and n C Double A Basketball on the video game 499 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: came out and they had the likeness of some of 500 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: the star athletes out there, and that was a big 501 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: bugaboo about what was going on. Yeah, and they tried 502 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: to say I believe it was help me. Jay billis 503 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: like would consistently point out the hypocrisy on the the 504 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: n c A website shop where it had the guys 505 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: football jersey name and numbers that we're not telling anybody, 506 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: And they took the names, search the name, you'd still 507 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: get the jersey. So then they took that off. It's 508 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: still I mean, you you go to the shop and 509 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: you see the number on the jersey is the number 510 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: of the star player. Right now, you know that that 511 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: that doesn't change. I already said my side business if 512 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: I was in college and Michael, I I assume Michael 513 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: Rubin would love this idea and Kevin Plank, because you know, 514 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: they were all about the college sports stuff. I would 515 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: have a iron on business right outside the campus bookstore. 516 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: You want to buy a plane jersey, just a jersey, 517 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: no names and numbers. Then you step outside to me 518 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: what name and number you want? Right on, right out, 519 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what you guys could have seen the 520 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: look on Scott's face, like what number do you want? Frankly, 521 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: I think you're trying to know, except like the only 522 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: one that like Texas A and then you'd have to 523 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: bring twelve. But you know what number you need? In 524 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: every CAMPU there's only one or two guys that people want, 525 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: so it's just you don't But in the college sports 526 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: with them, you know what. I'm excited to keep following 527 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: and see what shakes out the PAC twelve media saying, 528 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: then you're kind of gonna get a sense of who 529 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: is valuing this stuff and and why because you're gonna 530 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: get private equity involved here, and what do they see 531 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: the money going? And I think you're going to get 532 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: a good read on what smart money thinks is going 533 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: to happen. Is there a more controversial figure in college 534 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: sports right now than former guest of the podcast in 535 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: the next in the next year or two, is either 536 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: going to prove to be the smartest guy in the 537 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: first guy in the room, or he's gonna lose. Yeah, 538 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: and you're right. I think that you're right that as 539 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: we you know, as we have private equity circling the 540 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: possibility of investing with we should say that they're they're 541 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: they're selling part of the like a new media company 542 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: that they're creating. Because they did the Pack twelve has 543 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: all of its rights come due and they control everything 544 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: exactly so unlike the a SEC, which just launched a 545 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: SEC network with Big ten, has a deal with Fox 546 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: SEC with ESPN, Pack twelve as all of that together 547 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: in one entity, and yeah, we're gonna it's it's gonna 548 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: be put up a shut up time pretty quickly. For 549 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve, they're struggling on the court and on 550 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: the field that they're the financial teams to the other 551 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: major conferences, and Larry was out there saying recently like, hey, 552 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: we don't hire the coaches, we don't do the schedule. 553 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: That's fine, but that doesn't address the fact that your 554 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: member institutions take in less money than the other dominant programs, 555 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: Real quick sports betting, how is it going? I know 556 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: what's going well because it's in Pennsylvania and every time 557 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: I make a bet, uh, the team all of a 558 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: sudden has an upset and they lose. So I know 559 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: that they're doing very well with this is going on. 560 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: Washington losing against the Baltimore Orioles. That shouldn't have happened. Sorry, 561 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm stands out there in baseball. What tweet the picks 562 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: you want bar to bet on so that your team 563 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: can win? Yeah? I will. I would absolutely go the 564 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: other way, like you should be a tout just by 565 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: just pick and pickett and let everybody go the other way. 566 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: You know what? I walked in the then, uh when 567 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: the San Francisco game was playing. Uh, and uh it 568 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: was just when San Francisco was it looked like they 569 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: had fumbled the ball, and Linda, my beautiful wife, said, 570 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: you're a Jinx get out and it's like, well, and 571 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: they lost. I should say, but you know what can 572 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: I do? Yeah? I think sports betting is going well anyway, 573 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: Thank you all for you joining us. You've been listening 574 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: to a special Labor Day edition of Bloomberg Business of Sports. 575 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: But here each and every week for you at the 576 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: same time, plus online as an Apple podcast. You can 577 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: catch that Monday's, Wednesdays and Thursdays. Hi, Michael Lawrence Winter 578 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 1: at Big Bar Sports. I'm Evan Novie Williams at Novie 579 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: Underscore with Scott Sasha. You follow me on Twitter at 580 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, pleasing and next week when we 581 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: once again speak to the biggest thing right is the 582 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: sports business industry. You're listening to Bloomberg Business of Sports 583 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio a round the world.